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What's Keeping You On Windows?

samzenpus posted more than 2 years ago | from the old-slippers dept.

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tearmeapart writes "It may be time again for another discussion/flamewar on the reasons why a lot of us are (still) using Microsoft. The last big discussion on Slashdot was close to 10 years ago, and a lot has changed since then: Windows XP and 7 have proven to be stable (and memories of Windows ME are mostly gone.) There are many more distributions for Linux, especially commercial options. Distributions like Ubuntu and CentOS have made GNU/Linux more friendly. Options for word processing, spreadsheets, etc. have grown. Apple and their products have changed considerably, though their philosophy hasn't. Microsoft Silverlight came and is on the way out. Wine and solutions like Transgaming have matured. So... why are a lot of us still using Windows? What would it take for us to switch?"

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Money... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38021994)

Not enough money to switch to Mac...

Re:Money... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38022074)

If you can't afford a Mac Mini, you're too poor to get a computer anyway.

Try using your computer to *earn* money instead of just dicking around with it!

Smart (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38022186)

If you can't build your own system, and install an OS of your choice, you're too stupid to get a computer anyway.

Re:Money... (2)

masternerdguy (2468142) | more than 2 years ago | (#38022090)

The I have just the thing for you! http://kernel.org/ [kernel.org]

Re:Money... (1)

masternerdguy (2468142) | more than 2 years ago | (#38022140)

"Then I" not "The I". It's early.

Re:Money... (5, Funny)

SJHillman (1966756) | more than 2 years ago | (#38022260)

No, he meant The I. It's a race of omnipotent open source software developers. They look like the bastard offspring of John de Lancie and Richard Stallman and live in the Cubicletinuum.

Work and fun (5, Informative)

Etylowy (1283284) | more than 2 years ago | (#38022002)

Adobe software and games - that's about it.
Sadly Gimp is no replacement for Photoshop at this point.

Re:Work and fun (5, Insightful)

mcvos (645701) | more than 2 years ago | (#38022076)

Just games. I don't know much about Adobe software, but there's plenty available for Mac. For games, however, Windows is still the leading platform.

Re:Work and fun (4, Insightful)

tbannist (230135) | more than 2 years ago | (#38022240)

Similarly, I dual boot, the only time I boot Windows is to play some Windows only games and I don't do that very often. I spend more time playing games on the console than I do on Windows now. I've found that computer games have become much less compelling, and that many of the games I might want to play on the PC have console ports. The gamin companies I used to respect have mostly been bought and sold and are now soulless shells of their former selves.

I find GIMP is easier for me to use than Photoshop, but that may be because I never learned "the Photoshop way" of doing things. So really, nothing is keeping me on Windows, I just keep a copy around because it came with my computer and I may occasionally want to use it for something.

What keeps me (5, Informative)

moongate (917431) | more than 2 years ago | (#38022004)

at home: nothing - at work: my boss

Re:What keeps me (3, Interesting)

ellep (1746938) | more than 2 years ago | (#38022112)

I second that, although IT just told me I may run linux on my 'old' (1yr old) laptop when my 'new' laptop arrives. The new one will probably only be used to gather dust and an occasional e-mail.

Because... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38022006)

I'm not a hipster douchebag, nor a neckbeard.

Re:Because... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38022166)

I'm not a hipster douchebag

Well, you're half right...

The view (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38022014)

I quite like the outside view it offers me. Plus it lets some light in. More people should have windows installed.

Games like D3 (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38022018)

When I game, I don't want to have to mess around with drivers/tuning/performance/etc. That's my relaxation time, and running (for example) Diablo 3 -> DX11 -> Windows 7 x64 -> solid graphics card(s) is really the only solution.

Games, specific apps (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38022022)

Mostly games since that's the main platform they support.
Secondary reasons would be specific apps you don't find on other platforms or their replacements are not as good. Wine and transgaming are great products, but they don't always work at least like the real thing works. Of course a possibility is running a virtual machine with Windows if you don't mind the extra resources requirement to do so.

IT Manager... (1)

disi (1465053) | more than 2 years ago | (#38022024)

they want learn to use Windows at school and that's it.

Personally I use a virtual machine to run the application my university wants me to use.

Honestly? (0)

RasputinAXP (12807) | more than 2 years ago | (#38022028)

It might sound funny, but in my day to day work?

SecureCRT, SecureFX, Wireshark...then there's Photoshop and all of the games that I buy from Steam and never play because I have kids...

I'm far too set in my ways, and I've never found anything equal to SecureCRT on any other platform.

Re:Honestly? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38022192)

According to their site SecureCRT runs on Win/Mac/Linux... doesn't mention Unix but I guess Mac/Linux/Unix terminals would be as good, no?

Can't argue with the rest of your points. Especially about being set in your ways.

I was given a mac at work and didn't like it. I went back to my Linux system instead.

Re:Honestly? (3, Informative)

SuricouRaven (1897204) | more than 2 years ago | (#38022236)

Wireshark isn't just linux-compatable, it's *made* for linux. The windows version is a port.

Re:Honestly? (3, Informative)

Gimble (21199) | more than 2 years ago | (#38022238)

Eh, Wireshark has been cross platform from day 1.

Re:Honestly? (1)

lsolano (398432) | more than 2 years ago | (#38022250)

I'm far too set in my ways, and I've never found anything equal to SecureCRT on any other platform.

I'm using JellyfiSHH in my MAC to bookmark the hosts I have to SSH, but I do really miss SecureCRT.

Wireshark? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38022262)

Er? Are you really saying that Wireshark is not available on platforms other than Windows.
If you look at proper Linux Distros you will find wireshark in their repositories.
Plus,
http://www.wireshark.org/download.html
sort of says something else

A very specific software (2, Informative)

syngularyx (1070768) | more than 2 years ago | (#38022030)

OriginLab. Nothing else.

Games (5, Insightful)

xouumalperxe (815707) | more than 2 years ago | (#38022032)

Games. I tried migrating towards consoles, but certain key games are still PC-specific.

Re:Games (5, Interesting)

moongate (917431) | more than 2 years ago | (#38022106)

Gaming is the reasing I actually stick with Linux. Everytime I was gaming, I realized that I wasted my time instead of doing something productive. With non Win/Mac-OSes I'm very limted with this and won't be tempted.

Re:Games (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38022226)

yeah, same here, with sleep, every time I sleep I realize I could do something productive.

or same with spending time with other people, I could be doing something productive then.
Same with being on slashdot discussing why I am on linux rather then on windows. I could do something productive instead of that.

Multimedia stuff (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38022034)

I'm a regular Linux user (Arch at home, Fedora at work, Debian running on my server), yet I still come to prefer Windows where audio/video functionalities are involved. For these matters, the Linux stack is a mess.

Working drivers... (5, Interesting)

Splab (574204) | more than 2 years ago | (#38022036)

For quite some time Radeon was actually quite stable and useful under linux, but after some kernel changes and a decision not to update old drivers from ATI, I can no longer use "latest and greatest" linux.

Windows on the other hand, works just fine.

Also, a lot of windows tools are vastly superior to the Linux alternatives, for instance IntelliJ vs. Eclipse. (Yes intelliJ costs money, but compared to the hassle of Eclipse you are saving money in the long run).

Gaming under WINE still lacks as far as I can tell, I know some of my friends manage to play EVE under WINE, but they often complain about problems; in windows, it just works [tm].

Re:Working drivers... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38022092)

The changes were actually to the X11 server, not the kernel. In theory you could run linux 3.0 with a version of X11 you've retarded from an old release.

Or get better hardware.

Re:Working drivers... (1)

Splab (574204) | more than 2 years ago | (#38022162)

Yeah, wow, so easy and obvious solution.

Oh and by the way, not everyone has the money to upgrade every 18 months.

Re:Working drivers... (3, Informative)

Antity-H (535635) | more than 2 years ago | (#38022128)

Why you would want to pull a windows=intellij vs linux=eclipse stunt, when it is trivial to see that both are available for both platforms is beyond me.
Shame as the rest of you argument is valid. I myself migrated back to windows mostly for lightroom and for lack of expendable money to spend on a mac

Re:Working drivers... (1)

Splab (574204) | more than 2 years ago | (#38022206)

Heh, because I was unaware of IntelliJ being available for Linux :-)

Point taken.

Games (5, Insightful)

samael (12612) | more than 2 years ago | (#38022038)

Borderlands.
Modern Warfare 3.
Heck, Steam in general.

(And yes, I know there are hacks, but Windows Just Works for me. I can't think of a good reason to switch.)

Well... (5, Interesting)

DaVince21 (1342819) | more than 2 years ago | (#38022040)

Games. And sometimes, random apps that don't want to work well in Wine.

Also, I honestly don't mind using Windows. I'll just work with whatever OS I happen to be in. I dual boot, so I will occasionally reboot my system as the urge to do something that works better in the other OS grows (Windows for playing games, Linux for developing stuff).

Skyrim (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38022042)

Skyrim. As good as Wine and Transgaming are doing, until I can play a new release on the day it comes out, I will continue to need a Windows machine for the most important thing computers do (gaming).

OTOH, my employers keep the terminals on Windows for proprietary network monitoring software that doesn't run correctly in a virtual environment (even though we have one program that has to be run in the virtual XP mode since it is so old!)

Applications (1)

sdk4777 (1013597) | more than 2 years ago | (#38022046)

Applications, especially Mathcad, Minitab, Matlab, Labview and Protel / Altium. However, these run just fine on XP inside virtualbox, and I still get the benefit of a trusted OS (linux) being in control of my actual hardware and files (folders network-shared to virtualbox).

cash (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38022048)

I should be on a mac but I'm too poor :(

As a user or as an administrator? (5, Informative)

Pollux (102520) | more than 2 years ago | (#38022050)

As a user:

1) It works. Pretty well.
2) It's supported by 99% of software makers
3) It works. Pretty well.

As an administrator:

1) Active Directory
2) It works. Pretty well.
3) Active Directory

Mostly games (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38022052)

Mostly games and the fact that everything works on it with minimal effort. I am now over 40 and I have lost the fire that pushed me to spend hours trying to do on linux ALMOST the same I could do on Windoze in few minutes....

Windows 7 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38022056)

Win 7 is good, I'm a Linux admin by trade but Win 7 with virtual win (mutilple desktop app) is the way to go. Also i'm a pc gamer, and yes i did the whole wine thing back in collage but with work now i don't have the time to dick around with it, I just want to buy the game on steam and play. If i need Linux I have virtual box for that.

Only when necessary.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38022058)

...for providing IT support at work. Wholesale switched to Open Source some 5 years ago both at home and work, will never consider going back.

Windows-only specialized applications (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38022060)

It's really simple. The overpriced software that I use in my job is Windows only, and that's that. Now before you start singing me the "virtualization" song, the computer is my tool, so once it works, I move on to the earning money bit.

Cheap hardware/software that works out of the box. (3, Insightful)

theodp (442580) | more than 2 years ago | (#38022064)

$349 Win7 laptop + $99 Office 2010 and you're good to go.

Yawn (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38022066)

Because WINE is too much of a pain in the ass to get working with all your apps despite the "gold" status it claims to have in the WineDB, why bother go through all that when you can just run it on normal Windows and shove Linux in a VM running on Windows? Best of both worlds. Oh, and drivers for exotic hardware and more plentiful availability for applications on Windows... just like it's always been. This article is a waste of bandwidth.

Not on Windows! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38022068)

I've not been kept on windows, had a tough divorce... accidentally cleared windows when installing Fedora 12. I've stayed with GNU/Linux since

Games (1)

Dreetje (672686) | more than 2 years ago | (#38022070)

I have used ubuntu before, but for most of the games I wanted to play I had to hope for a OpenGl implementation so I could play it "decently" on it with Wine or just accept I bought a 200$ graphics card that would just play games on low graphical mode. This was not acceptable for me and so I switched back. When games will be serviced through browsers, then this problem might go away, although I think this might be some time off still. For now I'll keep to windows as it's the biggest platform for games besides the consoles.

Nothing (2, Interesting)

tramp (68773) | more than 2 years ago | (#38022072)

After the xxx number crash and problems with activation of (my legal) XP I installed Ubuntu and never went back for my main computer. I still have a virtual XP and W7 for workrelated issues but use them barely.

Games (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38022082)

Wine performance is poor and 3d games are unplayable even on expensive hardware. Many games still require tweaking to get running and others never run properly on wine.

For me to switch, more game developers would need to start compiling linux binaries.

A week late (2)

Coisiche (2000870) | more than 2 years ago | (#38022088)

In the UK the traditional date for launching fireworks is 5th November (to commemorate the failure of the gunpowder plot [wikipedia.org] )

Windows 7 (0)

zhouray (985297) | more than 2 years ago | (#38022094)

Windows 7 is actually a good operating system. Switched to various Linux distros before, they are just too slow compared to Windows. And of course, there are all the programs I lost when I switched to Linux.

No good Windows skin (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38022096)

There are some attempts, but there is no good "Just make the UI like I'm used to" skin that modifies keyboard shortcuts, windows layout, and so on like things are on Windows. The last I tried was of the "download this shell script and it will patch your system, if you are using one of the three supported configuration. Please read through the Known Bugs list while you shove over some donation monies" which I don't want to try again really. There is also the problem that some software I use is Windows-only, but that's becoming less of a problem, albeit slowly.

Wife...Mostly (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38022098)

I do run versions of linux at both the office and home but my wife refuses to look at at the systems at home that run it.

Are you serious? (0)

jugs (1300439) | more than 2 years ago | (#38022100)

I would never switch to OSX in my life. Crappy drivers & poor performance for my laptop in linux, all while delivering even sadder battery life.

Total Annihilation (2)

xdor (1218206) | more than 2 years ago | (#38022104)

Total Annihilation is a great RTS that still isn't quite outdone by its CPU hogging sequel Supreme Commander. Yeah, it's so old it will run with DirectX 3.0. Multiplayer won't work in Windows Vista or 7 without a boatload of firewall hacks (Probably why I'm still on XP), but its the best match of board-game meets video game out there

Otherwise, just Microsoft Visual Studio, because business still thinks that's the only game in town.

Very Little (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38022110)

At this point: very little. Mostly I only need Windows for some legacy games that no longer run on Lion (Starcraft!) and for software licenses I still have for Windows, like Adobe suites. Beyond that, I'm ready to jump ship. I've started using my desktop less and less, so that's going to become a Linux file server. Then my MacBook will get a nice Windows VM for the above reasons, and that will be it.

Experience (1)

Extremus (1043274) | more than 2 years ago | (#38022114)

Lets go for the list:
  - I know how to use it;
  - It seems to have a snapier feeling than linux;
  - Games and other apps

As a matter of fact, nowadays I use both: Windows as host and Linux in a vm. Linux is easier to user when you have to employ a suite of different apps. For instance, when manipulating Latex documents.

iRacing & rFactor (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38022120)

No one writes professional driving sims for Linux with a broad enough audience for online participation. No one ever will. I have just resigned myself to the fact that I'll have a powerful box configured to dual boot until someone makes one for a console that isn't driven by a cartoon physics engine.

Video Games - Natively (1)

americamatrix (658742) | more than 2 years ago | (#38022122)

As mature as things like WINE / Transgaming / PlayOnLinux get, they still won't be as good as a native Windows machine is for playing video games. It's much easier to install a game and expect it to work in Windows because the game was designed and tested to run in Windows. This is the big reason I still use Windows at home. I love my video games too much :) -th3r3isnospoon

Games (1)

Xian97 (714198) | more than 2 years ago | (#38022124)

I am an avid PC gamer. I do not like to play a FPS or RTS on a console. I have tried gaming with Wine or Transgaming and while many games are playable, there seems to be some trade offs compared to a native implementation, such as speed or having to implement some workaround.

As far a productivity software goes, I could easily switch to Linux. Visio would be the one sticking point since there does not seem to be anything nearly as robust for network diagramming on alternate platforms.

Stuff missing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38022126)

1. Games. Company of Heroes, Call of Duty.

2. Virtual Harddisk Support. VHD mounting in file system. (Too cumbersome/risky currently with command line "hacks").

3. Better multi tasking, better video, less freezes, more responsive videos.

4. Import system for microsoft windows live mail/express ? Maybe it already exists ? ;)

I am not on Windows (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38022130)

You insensitive clod!

The Windows-specific software I use (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38022132)

I use some Windows-specific software that cost several hundred dollars, doesn't have a Mac counterpart (there are products from other vendors, at a comparable price), and don't have comparable FOSS counterparts. Besides, Windows isn't all that bad any more.

why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38022136)

1. laziness/ignorance
2. if you haven't switched by now you probably never will

What keeps me... (1)

Trracer (210292) | more than 2 years ago | (#38022138)

At home: Main PC runs Windows for gaming. Mac mini as media player connected to the TV. Server box runs linux/vmware with some vm's of general flavour.

At work: We use a mixed environment but the windows boxes are mostly there for legacy and internal apps. We even still have some OS/2 boxes, yay for the financial business. All main desktop/client PCs are Windows (40k+ clients). Most of the backend/network runs Linux. I can't see a switch to anything but later Windows within 10 years or so.

Games (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38022142)

Sure there is a few games also comming to OSX and Linux, but most still Windows only. And a few, will get Mac support in a few month, and if you are lucky Linux.

MMO games are 99% Windows only.

And no I don't want to run games via wine. I want to run them native.

The few times I have asked on officials games forums, for games that are under development, the anwsers are always
1) Just run it true wine (and offen it's not posibel when the game final comes out)
2) Sure it can run on your Mac, just use bootcamp (or if linux, it's sure just dual boot)

I don't game that mutch. But when I want to play a game I don't want to shut down everyting I have running, just and reboot, just to play a little.

only two things. (1)

indy_Muad'Dib (869913) | more than 2 years ago | (#38022146)

gaming. one click installation. if linux could pull those two off id get rid of windows today.

Everything runs on windows (4, Insightful)

Random2 (1412773) | more than 2 years ago | (#38022148)

Currently, everything I need to do for work, home, or anywhere else runs on windows just fine. Additionally, most any program that I want to use is primarily supported on windows, and only marginally supported on Mac or Linux distros. So, put simply, the other operating systems either 1) don't do what I need to, or 2) don't have the support for what I need to run.

And sure, from the work perspective, we MIGHT be able to use other programs, but that requires going through a complete Verification and Validation of the software, which takes more time and money than it's worth. Especially if the software is written by volunteers, we can't necessarily get support quickly or hold people accountable for issues as they arise. The medical field (where I work) requires too high of reliability to simply switch for the sake of switching, there needs to be a measurable and tangible benefit.

I suppose learning the nuances of new programs is somewhat of a trivial reason to stay with what I'm using, but I'd rather continue being productive with what I'm familiar with than spend days learning the new programs simply for the sake of learning them. And yes, I have tried venturing out into the Ubuntu and Open Source realms. ;)

Windows just works (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38022150)

Windows just works, it's simple. Linux for the desktop still has issues, font rendering is very poor and hard on the eyes, gnome 3 shell is a leap ahead. Mac is cost prohibited.

Why would you switch? (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38022154)

Why would i switch?

Windows 7 hasn't crashed on me a single time. It's fast, it uses my SSD drive and memory well.
Every application i want to run, and might want to run in the future just works.

Device drivers are plentiful, i won't have to choose devices according to Linux support.
I'll need the same antivirus etc for linux as well.

My laptops also run Windows, the hibernate, the wifi, gps, 3g all work out of the box.

I'm happy to pay 100 euros for a working product.

Why would i switch to Linux? I ran Linux only on all my computers for about 3-5 years before getting a new computer and going Windows.
And you know what? I've had a lot less problems with Windows than what i had with Linux..

Professionnal music making and mixing (1)

TheTruthIs (2499862) | more than 2 years ago | (#38022156)

Linux is def a no no for professionnal music making and mixing. Plus, 7 works really really fine, like did XP and 2000. And as I'm tech savvy, I like building my own system so Apple computers don't interest me. And don't talk to me about Hackintosh, I need something rock stable.

games (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38022158)

for huge collection of games and directX programming.BTW i love openBSD more than Windows.

Switched back to Windows from Linux/OSX (5, Interesting)

Hadlock (143607) | more than 2 years ago | (#38022164)

I was on Mac (2001-2008, then Linux (2008-2010), but then my linux buddy switched back to Windows 7. I was skeptical at first, but his glowing reviews that "everything just worked on the desktop - graphics card, drivers, audio, sleep/restore, etc every time. No more configuring random crap to try and get it to work until a real patch was released. He and I still deploy Linux for work servers, but on day to day desktop, I've seen the light, and it's Windows 7. I installed Win7 in ~Sept 2010 and haven't had any configuration problems since then. It's super speedy and all my games work with it.
 
Coding is a bit of an issue on Windows, but Python, Ruby and Java are easy enough to develop on the Windows platform these days. Between CoreFTP, WinSCP, Putty and the other various tools, Windows is extremely functional for day to day power users. Linux had started getting an edge over XP, but Win7 is just so easy to use, it's really difficult to switch back to tinkering with things 2-3 times a week with Linux. OEM copies of Win7 are often $100 on NewEgg - when I think about it, $100 is well worth me not spending 10-20 hours a year configuring and tweaking my OS to keep it running in top shape.
 
I dearly want to love Ubuntu on the desktop, but after 9.10 they switched to Unity and it makes me sick to my stomach to use that crap interface. Gnome 2 was rock solid and a very functional interface. I might look at Ubuntu again once they solve all the problems with Unity, or Gnome3 is fully usable. Wine is top notch these days and handles 95% of my windows needs.... but for $100, Windows7 is just less of a hassle to deal with right now.

Office is still hard to replace (3, Insightful)

lsolano (398432) | more than 2 years ago | (#38022168)

"Options for word processing, spreadsheets, etc. have grown. "

Not quite true.

For simple things, yes, LibreOffice works great, but, in most cases, you can not change the MSExcel to a economist.

Also, In my personal experience, MSVisio is a must have, and there is not a real replacement. In fact, there is not any alternative at all if you receive visio files. You can even open them to look at them.

At home (suft the web mostly) I use Ubuntu. Perfect.

At work, I have a Mac and I love it, but I sill have to run XP in VBox just to run Visio.

Software (3, Informative)

stoolpigeon (454276) | more than 2 years ago | (#38022172)

Programs, or apps as the kids say. There are people I work with that require software that is unavailable on Linux. Or what is available on Linux isn't sufficient.

I use a custom made program for work that only runs on Windows.
I use a service that requires what I send them to be in MS Publisher format. (And even if they didn't the closest to Publisher on Linux is Scribus but it lacks mail merge which I require.)
And for work I use Skype a lot. The Linux version is old and doesn't support a number of features I use regularly. I'm on my linux machine most of the day so I have Skype running on it for chat and single person voice but when I need to do group stuff, I have to switch over to my Windows machine and run skype there. I don't foresee Microsoft pouring a lot of effort into the Linux Skype client any time in the near future.

I think those 3 things are all that's left. I don't mind it though. I spend 90% of my time on my Linux machines and hop over to Windows as required. It's not a big deal. My normal work day I use 3 machines, two running Fedora and one running Windows 7. I have synergy to share a keyboard/mouse between them and I don't have a hard time doing what I want. When I travel I often only have the Windows machine as it's the smallest and has the best battery life. But I don't do a lot of heavy work on the road either. Mostly presentations, email, etc. If I knew ahead of time I would want to really do a lot of work somewhere else, I'd bring the Linux laptop instead.

I'm not on Windows (1)

mikael_j (106439) | more than 2 years ago | (#38022176)

Well, technically I still use Windows at work but that isn't really up to me, I need Visual Studio (and running it in a VM seems kind of ridiculous).

At home I haven't run Windows (except in a VM) for a long time.

I pretty much use Mac and Linux for everything... (3, Interesting)

laird (2705) | more than 2 years ago | (#38022178)

I pretty much use Mac (client) and Linux (server) for everything.

But I still use Windows because there are some specific, very useful apps, that are Windows native, so I run them on a PC or on Parallels. Yes, there are web-based alternatives, but, to be honest, they suck to use - the web app UIs are clunky and slow compared to a native app. In the long run, I hope that web based alternatives surpass the native Windows apps, but right now it's more important that I be able to work efficiently than be cross-platform. Parallels is cheap and works fine, so I can run Windows apps on my Mac and they nearly feel like native apps.

No reason to change (5, Insightful)

frozentier (1542099) | more than 2 years ago | (#38022180)

I have zero reason NOT to be with Microsoft, that's why. Win7 is stable, doesn't slow my computer down, runs all the programs I could ever need, and I haven't actually "caught" a virus on Windows in the last 15 years, so why on earth would I switch to something else other than just for the sake of switching? That would just be stupid. Learn a brand new operating system and lose 95% of the programs that I use now? Fuck that, that makes no sense.

Depends on the context (2)

dkleinsc (563838) | more than 2 years ago | (#38022184)

At work - my boss, and MS Exchange. The MS Exchange thing can be solved technically, but the "boss" part of the equation can't.

At home - some games, slightly better support of unusual video formats. But I'm semi-switched already, and run Linux regularly on both my primary desktop and my netbook.

All three every day (1)

ewg (158266) | more than 2 years ago | (#38022190)

A lot of us use all three every day. If they're like me, it's Windows for collaboration with business staff, Linux for development and deployment, Mac OS X for personal use.

Nothing (1)

ClayDowling (629804) | more than 2 years ago | (#38022196)

Absolutely nothing. I run Mac at work, and Linux at home.

Havoc Pennington (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38022198)

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Havoc_Pennington

He has written dbus, gconf2 and HAL(!)... that's why I can use Linux as much as I want.

It is as annoying as if I was using windows thanks to that single person.

Programming (2)

rajeev_king (467107) | more than 2 years ago | (#38022200)

My programming experience in Windows , and of course Visual Studio ,probably the greatest IDE

Photoshop ; printer drivers; no forced upgrade ... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38022202)

... madness; I tried following Fedora for a while but it's just madness; plus I can no longer be root all time and for what? For idealogical reasons, nothing more! Oh and need I say "Gnome 3"?

The speed and convenience of XP on modern hardware is just unbeatable and if you're careful enough you won't get malware too soon.

Besides, Linux is dying anyway (just look at the number of active distros compared to 10 years ago) and Apple sucks more than M$ ever did; Beginning with the fanboys.

Lazy... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38022208)

Honestly probably laziness mainly. Like why I don't have an account here. I am lazy. Also, not sure if it is as easy to get my laptop setup to use the big screen to play movies* and then return to normal when I am done. Hell, am too lazy to even try with my USB drive. I know worst comes to worst a small script could do all the heavy lifting but like I said am lazy. You know once in the old analog days I ran a full MythTv Box at home but I am just to plain lazy.

* I have obtained...legally. Yes, Legally.

Same thing that kept me on Windows 10 years ago... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38022212)

...the full suite of Adobe products is available only on Windows. For an e-learning developer and technical writer, that's a deal maker. But with Windows 7, I'm much happier about being stuck on Windows.

I used to care what kind of software and which operating system I used. As I began to mature as a professional, I cared less about which tools I use and more about the product that I produce for my clients. Now that I'm an "experience professional" I realize it's not even the product that's most important, but the effect that you and your product produce on the client's business.

It's easier for me to positively affect my client's business when I have the full suite of software available to me, which is available only on Windows. But if I had to use a Mac or Linux, I would find a way to do the same.

Games (4, Insightful)

shadowrat (1069614) | more than 2 years ago | (#38022214)

I have a macbook. It's become my main development and all around computer. I have a linux box that performs some server duties. I have a windows machine around for games mostly. I've tried wine and transgaming. In my experience, I could either spend my time trying to get wine and transgaming to support the games i want to play, and then, honestly, deal with subpar performance. Or, I could just buy a windows box and play the games.

Steam on the mac is a step towards a world where i no longer have windows, but TF2 still runs far better on my windows laptop than my macbook. I can afford to indulge so i do.

Easy answer (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38022216)

It came with my computer, and it works.

Why do people use computers? (4, Insightful)

kenh (9056) | more than 2 years ago | (#38022218)

People use computers to solve problems and in many cases to make money. When taken as an entire ecosystem, the Windows Server environment is reasonably priced for the value it offers. Once you get past acquisition cost differences, the included network management tool exceed those available for Linux, and when you factor in the purchase price of Linux management tool the price differential tilts towards Windows in many cases.

The much discussed 'Windows Tax' on computers amounts to about $30-40/year, and for that a home computer user gets a computer running the most popular operating system in the world (by a wide margin), ready access to a large number of pro bono support people (relatives, co-workers, neighbors), they can run almost anything on the shelf at GameStop, best buy, or other retailer, and their computer hardware purchases are typically priced lower than comparable Apple offerings. And bespoke Linux hardware/software offerings (PCs w/ Linux pre-installed typically aren't cheaper than systems on sale at Dell, Best Buy, etc.

Linux is phenomenal at certain tasks, but those tasks represent a small portion of the installed computer base - web & file servers aren't ubiquitous (yet), so it is no surprise that the OS with the largest paid & unpaid support infrastructure, widest support OS application software, and lowest hardware prices is still dominant.

Dont run windows (4, Interesting)

Anon-Admin (443764) | more than 2 years ago | (#38022220)

Back with Windows 3.1 went to Windows 95, I went from Windows 3.1 to Linux.

Most say they are on windows for the games well, I have a PS2, PS3, Wii, and Xbox360 for games. Less hassles and plays on the big screen.

Ill admit that I was a VERY early adopter of Linux and I have never regretted it. It has been a struggle at times, but well worth it.

Steam (1)

mr.masta.flash (2505540) | more than 2 years ago | (#38022222)

Steam.

I like it. (4, Insightful)

Nick Fel (1320709) | more than 2 years ago | (#38022230)

I've used OSX and a few Linux flavours. I still prefer Windows. There's an underlying assumption in the question that everyone's secretly yearning to get away, which is silly.

Driven by our core business apps (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38022232)

When our main business applications are available on another OS, we might get involved in this discussion.

plus 2, TroLl) (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38022244)

Nothing (1)

mgf64 (1467083) | more than 2 years ago | (#38022246)

Flat out nothing. Happily switched to Mac and Linux. One of the best decisions I ever made.

Audio applications (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38022248)

I've been using GNU/Linux for many years, only rebooting to Windows for some occasional gaming. However, now that I've started making music, I've started using it more regularly.

The Linux pro audio scene is vivid and growing, Ardour is a great sequencer and so on, but the available software just can't do what Ableton Live, Reason and the various VST:s can do. Pro audio is a niche, and pro audio on Linux is a very small niche within a niche. It takes a lot of tinkering to set things up, and for what I want to do, the features are still lacking.

If Ableton Live would be ported to Linux, I'd be very happy - and I would hardly ever want to reboot to Windows again. And I will be keeping track of the developments in Linux audio as well.

lots of reasons (1)

mynicknamewasused (962741) | more than 2 years ago | (#38022252)

-Drivers. Devices always have drivers for windows, I donâ(TM)t want to have to do research to find if there exist "good" drivers.

-Prior knowledge. i "know" how to manage windows, do complicated things, etc.

-Games.

-Performance (Flash anyone)

-Multiusers, anyone can use one of my computers, and know how to do anything.

ItÂs just easier to use windows.

Windows Only Printers (1)

chriscozi (1686002) | more than 2 years ago | (#38022254)

PCL 5. Just yesterday spent X hours re-creating MSHOME workgroup on multiple computers so that the network (all other machines) can access the specialized 'shared' printer. No other sub $10,000 available options. Linux can't do it. Mac can't do it. Doom, despair, depression, agony!

cant change completely (1)

renegade600 (204461) | more than 2 years ago | (#38022258)

only two things is keeping me from being 100 percent linux - netflix and iphone. Until they become linux compatible, I am stuck with windows and dual booting.

Time and Money (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38022264)

Well, back in the college days it was easy to find time to battle through hardware incompatibility issues in Linux. Now, I am employed, married, own a house and all the "fun" that goes along with it. I don't have time to sit down and fight with Linux to figure out why my sound in my Sony Vaio laptop isn't working. While Linux has most certainly come a long way over the years, it always falls a step behind in hardware support.

As for Apple - why spend an extra 20-30% to get the same machine you can get in a PC? Don't get me wrong, I'd love to own one but simply can't justify the extra $$$ for a pretty(er) looking computer with an Operating System that has just as many flaws as any other.

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