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Apple Names New Chairman

Unknown Lamer posted more than 2 years ago | from the disney-movies-exclusively-distributed-via-iphone dept.

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angry tapir writes "Arthur Levinson, former CEO of biotech company Genentech, is taking on the chairmanship of Apple's board, filling the role that Apple founder Steve Jobs vacated when he died last month." El Reg notes that Disney CEO/President Robert Iger was also appointed to the board, and that this marks the first time since the return of Steve Jobs to Apple that the CEO and board chairman were different people.

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Dropping the Mac-Pro, Disney on the board..... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38072708)

Apple just wants to make toys!

Re:Dropping the Mac-Pro, Disney on the board..... (1)

Jeremiah Cornelius (137) | more than 2 years ago | (#38075508)

America now has a Sony Corp. Apple is now toast.

Watch for corporate-driven FAIL to be the new order-of-the-day for Apple, once a proud, independent standout from the pack.

Curse app stores and iPhones, if you will. Two years from now, when it's the other way 'round, you'll look back and marvel that Apple made AT&T dance.

His first task: to clone Steve Jobs? (0, Redundant)

Rogerborg (306625) | more than 2 years ago | (#38072722)

Hey, the other 100 threads expounding the same thought are Redundant, I got in first.

please (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38072740)

please let him be some jacked roid raging hairy chested mans man. every time i look at an apple product i felt like watching the view and eating some ice cream

Will the reality distortion field last? (5, Insightful)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 2 years ago | (#38072754)

These are pretty conventional corporate appointments, which leads me to wonder how much longer the Steve Job's aura will last. I think they would have been better off appointing a very charismatic figurehead as CEO (as the *public* face), and then letting the business folks quietly run the show behind the scenes. It's hard to believe that fans will one day cry like their daddy died when Tim Cook or one of these corporate insiders leaves. And Apple has always relied on a certain degree of devotion from their fans (I'll resist the cult comparison) and an image of hipness.

Re:Will the reality distortion field last? (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38072826)

These are pretty conventional corporate appointments, which leads me to wonder how much longer the Steve Job's aura will last. I think they would have been better off appointing a very charismatic figurehead as CEO (as the *public* face), and then letting the business folks quietly run the show behind the scenes. It's hard to believe that fans will one day cry like their daddy died when Tim Cook or one of these corporate insiders leaves. And Apple has always relied on a certain degree of devotion from their fans (I'll resist the cult comparison) and an image of hipness.

The vast majority of iPod/iPhone/iPad owners have never met Steve Jobs; they've never watched an Apple video stream of a Steve Jobs keynote. They may have seen him on the cover of Time once, but they never read the article, because that's boring business-stock-market-computer-geek stuff. They haven't even read the tell-all biography that every tech news site has been posting exposes on, because, well, nobody reads books anymore.

The Steve Jobs posse came out in force on the Internet when Steve Jobs died, but they're a tiny, tiny majority of Apple buyers in real life. Apple has been so successful because it appealed to regular people. The Apple fanboys were just the highly visible cheering section; the stands were filled with regular people.

Re:Will the reality distortion field last? (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38072966)

The fanboys are who buy the inital offering and sell the concept to their friends.

Re:Will the reality distortion field last? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38073736)

The fanboys are who buy the inital offering and sell the concept to their friends.

Maybe, I guess. I'd say most people are put off by the fan boys if they encounter them at all (this applies to Android as well as iPhone incidentally). Maybe depends on what exactly you count as a fanboy. Mild enthusiasm can be appealing. Must-defend-the-mother-company is just disturbing. And those types tend to drown out the others.

Re:Will the reality distortion field last? (2, Informative)

recrudescence (1383489) | more than 2 years ago | (#38072990)

[...] but they're a tiny, tiny majority of Apple buyers in real life

You clearly don't have a facebook or twitter account

Twitter accounts (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 2 years ago | (#38073304)

You clearly don't have a facebook or twitter account

Of course I don't. All the twitter accounts [slashdot.org] kept praising GNU/Linux and slamming "M$". I bet twitter would have the same sentiment against Apple if he were still running his sockpuppet show on Slashdot today.

Re:Twitter accounts (1)

recrudescence (1383489) | more than 2 years ago | (#38080532)

On the day of his death, something like 80% of my (non tech-savvy) friends changed their profiles to something apple related and updated their statuses in praise of Steve Jobs. Very few of these friends own apple products, may I add, so this wasn't even remotely related to an 'apple fan' thing.

So what I meant by the facebook comment, is that I observed exactly the opposite than what you think, in practice. The media and the world in general reacted very vividly to Steve-Jobs' death, apple-fans or not. The man was clearly very charismatic and media-imposing. So the parent poster's comment about the influence Steve Jobs had on the success of apple products in terms of his charismatic presence isn't far-fetched and trollsome in any way. I don't think anyone outside tech circles would bat an eyelid when Steve Balmer dies, for instance. And certainly only a handful of geeks reacted to the death of Dennis Ritchie, a true titan of modern computing, only a few days later.

I'm just saying; you *may* be a bit biased about this. That's all.

Re:Will the reality distortion field last? (1)

flargleblarg (685368) | more than 2 years ago | (#38073414)

[...] but they're a tiny, tiny majority of Apple buyers in real life

You clearly don't have a facebook or twitter account

Or an understanding of basic mathematics. What's a "tiny, tiny majority"? 50.00000001%? <wink>

Re:Will the reality distortion field last? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38074370)

Exactly half plus a midget.

Re:Will the reality distortion field last? (2)

interval1066 (668936) | more than 2 years ago | (#38073198)

Did you forget where Apple was before Jobs came back?

Re:Will the reality distortion field last? (0)

CheerfulMacFanboy (1900788) | more than 2 years ago | (#38074218)

Did you forget where Apple was before Jobs came back?

The haters claimed there was a RDF at Apple even before he came back. That's how much they are under the real RDF.

Re:Will the reality distortion field last? (3, Insightful)

Bing Tsher E (943915) | more than 2 years ago | (#38076198)

Any group of fans who refer to 'the others' as 'the haters' is a fucking cult.

Re:Will the reality distortion field last? (4, Insightful)

flyingsquid (813711) | more than 2 years ago | (#38073470)

Steve Jobs' followers don't need to be huge in number to make a big difference, if they're the type of people who set trends. Stephen Colbert is always sporting the latest iGadget on the Colbert Report, or making a big deal about how his love affair with an Apple product is ended by the release of a newer, shinier, thinner version of the same gadget. Apple products feature prominently in movies and TV, because in the same way the director wants the character to have fashionable clothes and a sleek car, they want them to have the coolest, trendiest gadgets. If your friend who is always quick to pick up on technology trends has ditched his Kindle and is now sporting an iPad, that may not make you run out to the Apple Store but it will make you consider whether it's something you should buy. So if the people who follow Steve Jobs are the people the rest of us take our social cues from, the Reality Distortion Field can have a huge effect.

Re:Will the reality distortion field last? (2)

Jerom (96338) | more than 2 years ago | (#38073808)

Additionally the unconditional fans are what can save a business when it hits a rought patch. Harley-Davidson resembles Apple in this respect.

Re:Will the reality distortion field last? (1)

ColdWetDog (752185) | more than 2 years ago | (#38075884)

Additionally the unconditional fans are what can save a business when it hits a rought patch. Harley-Davidson resembles Apple in this respect.

So we're destined to have Apple-themed pickup trucks, bicycles and dildos?

We're doomed.

Re:Will the reality distortion field last? (1)

Pope (17780) | more than 2 years ago | (#38076692)

So we're destined to have Apple-themed pickup trucks, bicycles and dildos?

We're doomed.

Nope. That would mean Apple offering a wide range of options on their hardware... :D

Re:Will the reality distortion field last? (1)

gorzek (647352) | more than 2 years ago | (#38077150)

Just be thankful you won't be getting Apple-themed "truck nuts."

Re:Will the reality distortion field last? (1)

delinear (991444) | more than 2 years ago | (#38074168)

It's also magnified by the fact that the wider press don't understand technology so they'll take their cues from whoever happens to be the IT flavour of the day because it's easier to steal their ideas than to do genuine research. That means it only needs a few key figures sporting trendy gadgets for them to sink into the wider public consciousness.

Re:Will the reality distortion field last? (1)

CheerfulMacFanboy (1900788) | more than 2 years ago | (#38074682)

Steve Jobs' followers don't need to be huge in number to make a big difference, if they're the type of people who set trends. Stephen Colbert is always sporting the latest iGadget on the Colbert Report,.... So if the people who follow Steve Jobs are the people the rest of us take our social cues from, the Reality Distortion Field can have a huge effect.

Interestingly enough, those "biggest fans" are also the ones making fun of Apple products to a huge public - something those who are actually under the RDF can't realize: the Haters. Unless of course they want to show how everybody thinks Apple sucks: then they point to those "Fanboys" as support.

Re:Will the reality distortion field last? (1)

Bing Tsher E (943915) | more than 2 years ago | (#38076274)

Jobs learned from the really big cult creators of the 70's. He explicitly studied under one of them. Thus we find ourselves today confronting a cult that refers to anybody who is opposed to said cult, particularly those who say: "my fucking god, look at that emporer over there with no clothing on!" as 'The Haters.'

Anybody who has known a moonie in real life knows that there is a long painful deprogramming process involved in getting them their fucking clue. So the fanboys are probably beyond hope for the time being. Just say 'uh-huh' and avoid them.

Re:Will the reality distortion field last? (1)

CheerfulMacFanboy (1900788) | more than 2 years ago | (#38077182)

Jobs learned from the really big cult creators of the 70's.

Says the guy blindly following his own leaderless cult. Apple is evil! Lockstep, everybody!

Re:Will the reality distortion field last? (1)

Attila Dimedici (1036002) | more than 2 years ago | (#38073752)

but they're a tiny, tiny majority of Apple buyers in real life.

I thought Apple had a huge number of people who buy their products. If that is the case, how can the majority of them be "tiny, tiny"?

Re:Will the reality distortion field last? (1)

mikaida (2509414) | more than 2 years ago | (#38074266)

but they're a tiny, tiny majority of Apple buyers in real life.

I thought Apple had a huge number of people who buy their products. If that is the case, how can the majority of them be "tiny, tiny"?

No, you've taken that quote out of context. It was referring to "the Apple posse" being a small number. Most of Apple's customers are not die-hard fans, just regular people who want to stay hip with the latest phone or technology fashion.

Re:Will the reality distortion field last? (1)

Attila Dimedici (1036002) | more than 2 years ago | (#38074408)

The poster I replied to said that "the Apple posse" is a "tiny, tiny majority of Apple buyers". How does putting it in context cause it to make any more sense?

Re:Will the reality distortion field last? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38075240)

Congratulations, you found a place where they should have used minority instead of majority. You may want to check yourself for autism or just being an asshole, because their post was still understandable even with the mistake.

Or just go get a life.

Re:Will the reality distortion field last? (0)

Belial6 (794905) | more than 2 years ago | (#38074252)

No. Apple has generally NOT appealed to regular people. If they had, Macs would not have been an irrelevant minority of computers. Even today, Mac market share is closer to Linux than it is to Windows. iOS has been popular, but that is already losing market share as devices that appeal more to regular people are being released.

Re:Will the reality distortion field last? (3, Insightful)

f()rK()_Bomb (612162) | more than 2 years ago | (#38074980)

I think you may have been living in a cave for the last 10 years or so :p What about the ipod? Or the iphone, losing market share doesnt mean that the devices dont appeal to regular people. It means theres been a huge influx of cheap android devices. Market share is not a zero-sum game for phones. And although the market share of mac in the pc space appears small, if you go to a university or coffee shop and look at how many people are sporting macbooks, it seems clear that regular people like apple products very much. Apple products are expensive, hence not everyone who wants one can get one, but they certainly appeal to regular people because they are simple and clean. I think you may be confusing yourself for a regular person. If you read slashdot, you are not a regular person :p My sister would be a regular person, her and all her friends are obsessed with apple products. They think android is clunky. Yet she has an android phone, because its really cheap.

Re:Will the reality distortion field last? (1)

Algae_94 (2017070) | more than 2 years ago | (#38076708)

So let me see here. Product "ABC" has smallish market share and can't seem to get out of the shadow of competing Product "XYZ" which has a dominant majority of market share. Now, If I happen to go to a special location and see that people there prefer ABC, that equates to "it seems clear that regular people like [ABC] products very much."

That's some real spin there. Obviously people like Macs because they have captured a decent share of the desktop computer market, but it is not correct to find niche groups of people that use them in greater numbers to say that people like them more.

Re:Will the reality distortion field last? (1)

daath93 (1356187) | more than 2 years ago | (#38076824)

I am so sick of fringe vocal minorities (the "99%", iZombies etc) telling me that their loud but insignificant numbers are indicitive of some sort of "norm" that I should obviously be part of.

Re:Will the reality distortion field last? (1)

sessamoid (165542) | more than 2 years ago | (#38077222)

"Fringe vocal minorities" could be at least as accurately used to describe FOSS zealots.

Re:Will the reality distortion field last? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38076082)

The Steve Jobs posse came out in force on the Internet when Steve Jobs died, but they're a tiny, tiny majority of Apple buyers in real life.

That's not my impression.
Case in point: the (overwhelmingly positive) media coverage, and the fact that his biography is selling like hotcakes.

Re:Will the reality distortion field last? (1)

Too Many Secrets (449095) | more than 2 years ago | (#38077908)

I dunno. Bababooey's autobiography made it to the NYT best sellers list. And he didn't even die.

Re:Will the reality distortion field last? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38078524)

Did you miss out on the 90's? Those "regular people" weren't buying many apple computers after Jobs left.

Re:Will the reality distortion field last? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38072918)

Uh huh. Keep telling yourself that. Is bashing Apple and Steve Jobs the only way you can feel good about the fact that you're an inbred freetard whose mom is also his sister?

Re:Will the reality distortion field last? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38073258)

These are pretty conventional corporate appointments, which leads me to wonder how much longer the Steve Job's aura will last.

It will last for awhile, but not forever. There are probably a few good products still in the pipeline that Jobs had worked on directly, but after that I don't see Apple growing much larger than it is now. I didn't much care for the guy's attitude or personality (not that I knew him personally or anything), but Apple is simply not Apple without Steve Jobs. Which is why I sold all my stock in AAPL after the Q4 earnings call.

And Apple has always relied on a certain degree of devotion from their fans (I'll resist the cult comparison) and an image of hipness.

That's all marketing and is not at all unique to Apple. Nearly all consumer product manufacturers pay big bucks to make their products appeal to a wide audience. All major brands have some kind of cult following (Nike, Chevy, Sony), Apple was just the first computer company to have one.

Re:Will the reality distortion field last? (1)

delinear (991444) | more than 2 years ago | (#38074248)

Apple's strength has been in not being afraid to put real money into promoting an untested new stream in the market. I daresay they'll still churn out some beautiful designs (Jonathan Ive isn't going anywhere after all), but their future success will depend on how risk averse these new company heads are. Most of us remember the direction the company took the last time Jobs was no longer heading it up.

Re:Will the reality distortion field last? (1)

Bing Tsher E (943915) | more than 2 years ago | (#38076406)

Most of us remember the direction the company took the last time Jobs was no longer heading it up.

Hey, I liked my Beige G3 Minitower. And the Newton had a bright future. If Jobs hadn't come along and trashed the company when he did, they might have merged with Sun and we might have a hell of a good desktop, plus robust tablets ten years ago.

It's impossible to predict alternative history, but it's also a mistake to assume history went the way it is hyped as having gone.

Jobs had a history of walking into the room and trashing whatever was going on. Sometimes that was good, sometimes very bad. That's all that can really be said.

The fact that the entertainment industry has piled onto Apple because they produced the first big properly DRM'd mp3 player is really all Apple's recent success shows. That and they figured out how to graft the result of that synergy onto a cellphone. Unfortunately for them, there's nothing unique in that. Nothing that isn't dependent on patent trolling, that is.

Re:Will the reality distortion field last? (2)

bberens (965711) | more than 2 years ago | (#38073844)

I think they would have been better off appointing a very charismatic figurehead as CEO (as the *public* face), and then letting the business folks quietly run the show behind the scenes.

I hear Jerry Sandusky might be looking for work.

/too soon?

Re:Will the reality distortion field last? (3, Funny)

morgauxo (974071) | more than 2 years ago | (#38073906)

Don't worry. They are just waiting for Steve Ballmer to become available.

Re:Will the reality distortion field last? (1)

poena.dare (306891) | more than 2 years ago | (#38073908)

Tim Cook is an interesting person, and having him step up made sense.

Levinson??? Now that's strange.

Iger? Jobs respected him. The guy understands content and polish. But he doesn't understand cultivating the cult.

Cultivating...

That describes Apple in one word!
LOL

Re:Will the reality distortion field last? (1)

ColdWetDog (752185) | more than 2 years ago | (#38075966)

Levinson??? Now that's strange.

No YOU don't understand. Levinson - CEO of Genetech. The biotech company so old that they managed to scarf gene.com. Remember, Jobs had his DNA sequenced.

Sequenced DNA + Genetech = Jurassic Park IV or a new Steve Jobs.

Re:Will the reality distortion field last? (1)

Bing Tsher E (943915) | more than 2 years ago | (#38076320)

To be fair, Jobs was probably trying to get definitive truth of who his birth father was.

Re:Will the reality distortion field last? (1)

ColdWetDog (752185) | more than 2 years ago | (#38077802)

You don't have to do what he did - sequence his entire [time.com] genome if all you want it do determine paternity [wikipedia.org] . At least in the normal sense of paternity.

If he wanted to see where he branched off the evolutionary tree from Homo sapiens, well, then it's a reasonable approach.

Re:Will the reality distortion field last? (1)

ColdWetDog (752185) | more than 2 years ago | (#38075848)

These are pretty conventional corporate appointments,

Fool! He's head of Genetech [gene.com] . The first Biotech company. They're so old they managed to get "gene.com".

Think cloning.

Think Steve.

Think how much DNA of his is floating around in the lab.

Profit!

In comes all the scumbags (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38072760)

Maximizing profits to boost short term share price will be the #1 focus of the company going forward.

Re:In comes all the scumbags (0)

Kraftwerk (629978) | more than 2 years ago | (#38072928)

They might as well, as long as the Federal Reserve is around, money is worth less and less everyday.

Re:In comes all the scumbags (1)

nedlohs (1335013) | more than 2 years ago | (#38073630)

That doesn't mean you would want to maximize short term profits. In fact it would mean the exact opposite. If money is worth less and less everyday then you want to spend now.

Spending more now means smaller short term profits in expectation of higher future returns when the prices of all the things you spent the money on now are higher. Either you'll be able to offload those things at the now higher prices or have a competitive edge against those companies who have to buy that stuff as the higher prices.

Re:In comes all the scumbags (1)

delinear (991444) | more than 2 years ago | (#38074314)

You're assuming they have any interest in the long term health of the company - it seems like a lot of executives simply want to boost short term profits, make it look like they've added value then go look for their next post for a big uplift in their salary, leaving behind a company that's a ticking time bomb in terms of future profitability. I don't know anything about this pair, but it's common enough practice.

Re:In comes all the scumbags (1)

nedlohs (1335013) | more than 2 years ago | (#38076554)

I made no such assumption. I was responding to the faulty "inflation" -> "pursue short term profit" logic, not corporate management practices.

In other news (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38072772)

Ron Paul has taken the presidency of the United States of America.

Lack of customer focus? (5, Interesting)

vlm (69642) | more than 2 years ago | (#38072818)

So, the biotech place only sells R+D to megacorps and their customer experience is designed for PHDs in ChemEng, Chem, Bio, MDs, and of course, beancounters.

The Disney guy thinks he should own our culture in perpetuity and the government should enforce and extend failing business models, admittedly a widely held belief.

Who, if anyone in their leadership, cares about the general public actually buying their stuff?

I could see this resulting in a big push for "ItunesU", or tablet/phone electronic medical records, or maybe an even more draconian DRM setup. Any way this team could benefit the general public?

The best I can come up with is something like a real world highly integrated "medical tricoder" that is DRM locked down so you/your doc/your med insurance has to pay apple each time they want to look at your records, forever. Also the tricoder only works with Apple-approved MRI units, Apple-approved IV pumps, etc.

Re:Lack of customer focus? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38074186)

Also the tricoder only works with Apple-approved MRI units, Apple-approved IV pumps, etc.

... and only on gay patients.

Re:Lack of customer focus? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38074610)

Just because the guy has a biosciences R&D background DOES NOT in any way mean that's all he's got in the toolkit. Just because a man has a hammer doesn't mean he's gonna try and hammer you out some milk, innit?

I'd focus instead on the fact that the guy's climbed the corporate ladder, has a keen business sense, and from his degree I get that he has no problem understanding analyzing and manipulating complex systems. Apple's a complex evolving system "at the intersection of technology and the humanities," and nothing is more intrinsic or cutting-edge to the humanities than bioscience, in its own weird way.

Whatever, I'm an optimist!

Re:Lack of customer focus? (1)

gl4ss (559668) | more than 2 years ago | (#38075046)

Just because the guy has a biosciences R&D background DOES NOT in any way mean that's all he's got in the toolkit. Just because a man has a hammer doesn't mean he's gonna try and hammer you out some milk, innit?

I'd focus instead on the fact that the guy's climbed the corporate ladder, has a keen business sense, and from his degree I get that he has no problem understanding analyzing and manipulating complex systems. Apple's a complex evolving system "at the intersection of technology and the humanities," and nothing is more intrinsic or cutting-edge to the humanities than bioscience, in its own weird way.

Whatever, I'm an optimist!

I frankly don't think that selling valium has much to do with selling macs.

no matter how big rdf.

I'm disappointed (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38072860)

I think Apple should have tapped Job's Disney connections so his corpse could be brought back in animatronic form.

Re:I'm disappointed (1)

gstrickler (920733) | more than 2 years ago | (#38074822)

Disney's animatronics are too unrealistic. Apple would have had to completely reinvent animatronics for iSteve.

Re:I'm disappointed (1)

Sponge Bath (413667) | more than 2 years ago | (#38075684)

Steve Jobs' vision of hell might have been eternity in the Country Bear Jamboree, but his image wearing denim overalls and playing the iJug would make me laugh.

Could be a good fit (4, Insightful)

walterbyrd (182728) | more than 2 years ago | (#38073106)

Like Apple, Disney is nearly obsesive about protecting it's IP; while ripping off everybody else's IP.

Re:Could be a good fit (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38073566)

Citation? And you'd better not give me the crap about Kimba the White Lion.

Re:Could be a good fit (2)

alex67500 (1609333) | more than 2 years ago | (#38073856)

You mean that fact that every time that Disney movies are about to fall into the public domain, we end up with an extension of copyright times? Does the Disney Act (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Term_Extension_Act) ring a bell?

Basically, Walt Disney is allowed to take the Grimm brothers work, but nobody is allowed to do the same to Walt Disney (until 2019 -- which is when the time will be extended again).

Re:Could be a good fit (1)

CheerfulMacFanboy (1900788) | more than 2 years ago | (#38075424)

Basically, Walt Disney is allowed to take the Grimm brothers work, b

Their work? They collected tales from the Public Domain, many of them from France.

Re:Could be a good fit (1)

Bing Tsher E (943915) | more than 2 years ago | (#38076486)

Their work? They collected tales from the Public Domain, many of them from France.

Yes, and their collection of stories remained essentially public domain. They didn't try to lock-it-down after they put it in their collection. That's a big difference.

Does this new guy heading Apple mean we are going to have people here defending Fucking Disney on slashdot now? It might be time to split off apple.slashdot.org from the main page.

Re:Could be a good fit (1)

CheerfulMacFanboy (1900788) | more than 2 years ago | (#38077154)

Their work? They collected tales from the Public Domain, many of them from France.

Yes, and their collection of stories remained essentially public domain.

As does Snowwhite. Are you Grumpy? Or Whiney?

Re:Could be a good fit (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38076104)

I highly doubt that Disney could "steal" Grimm's work and disallow others from making their own adaptations, unless there were some marked similarities not covered by the stories themselves (i.e. character design, costuming, etc.).

Re:Could be a good fit (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38073700)

And as long as people like you continue to validate that lie, by using oxymorons like "intellectual property", as long will the organized crime continue their protection racket.

Don't you people realize that you're supporting and validating that way of thinking when you use it.

First time? (5, Informative)

homsar (2461440) | more than 2 years ago | (#38073184)

this marks the first time since the return of Steve Jobs to Apple that the CEO and board chairman were different people.

...except for that period after Steve resigned CEOship but was still Chairman when Tim Cook was CEO... (Reading TFA, it seems that the error is in the paraphrasing rather than the original.)

Re:First time? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38074090)

Actually, Apple did not have a designated chairman of the board after Steve became CEO.

What U see is What U get... (2)

ElitistWhiner (79961) | more than 2 years ago | (#38073194)

...you are witness to the fact AAPL is all grown-up, its founding father passed on. This is what a mature, responsible and somber AAPL stewards its legacy.

After the shock, transition and adjustment to losing its visionary leader fades, you can expect Apple to find its vision, voice and vocation going forward. Not now

Re:What U see is What U get... (2)

marcosdumay (620877) | more than 2 years ago | (#38073824)

It's hard to imagine a mature Apple. They've already tried to go without their visionary creators, it wasn't a very nice experience.

Re:What U see is What U get... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38074728)

I know, I know, Schiller and Amelio and the wasteland that was Copeland and the 90's, full of abortive efforts that never bore fruit at Apple. On the other hand, the environment and landscape is totally different now than then.

Apple not only has a straight flush of products in its hand, it also has a stacked deck.

Hell, with their market cap, they're on their way to owning the goddamned casino.

From some one who knows Art (5, Interesting)

kungfool (949878) | more than 2 years ago | (#38075020)

I don't understand all the Art bashing here. I worked under Art when he ran Genentech research, and later when he was promoted to CEO. He was a genius at getting other geniuses (and no, I'm not counting myself in that category) to give their best, most creative work. He made Genentech a fun, exciting place to work. We all worked hard (very hard), but were well rewarded and felt the work was vital and exciting stuff. I think he has exactly what it takes to help guide Apple. He's not some bean-counter, suit wearing executive. He's a scientist at heart, and as hard-core a geek as any one could want (he was known for using UNIX mail even after the company rolled out a custom mail interface).

Re:From some one who knows Art (0)

CheerfulMacFanboy (1900788) | more than 2 years ago | (#38075614)

I don't understand all the Art bashing here.

The haters need a reason why Apple will finally fall - like they have been predicting since 1976.

Re:From some one who knows Art (1)

Bing Tsher E (943915) | more than 2 years ago | (#38076512)

Again with 'the haters.' Don't you have flowers you should be selling at an Airport somewhere?

Re:From some one who knows Art (1)

CheerfulMacFanboy (1900788) | more than 2 years ago | (#38077134)

Again with 'the haters.' Don't you have flowers you should be selling at an Airport somewhere?

The hateboi doth protest too much...

John Sculley, Anyone? (2)

jasnw (1913892) | more than 2 years ago | (#38075080)

I recall what happened to Apple last time an outsider became a high-level executive. Damn near killed the company. Remains to be seen how this will all play out, but I think we'll see more commodification of Apple's various lines, pruning out stuff seen as not productive (computers, for example), and a slow decline in "wow" factor as the Jobs gang loses more control and leave the company. The goal will be to maximize the bottom line in whatever way possible, killing off the gold-egg-laying goose. Without a strong leader who can force a company to stay focused on what's over the next horizon, stockholders will force the focus to the next quarter's dividends. Sad, but that's life.

On a slightly-related note, I wonder if Steve's will has been read? There may be a clause in there that requires Apple to change it's corporate name to something like "Greedy Content Whoremongers" or some such.

Re:John Sculley, Anyone? (1)

Pope (17780) | more than 2 years ago | (#38076774)

Steve was ousted from the company the last time, rather than spending years plans and ideas and clueing in his successor(s) on where to go when he wasn't around anymore. Completely different scenarios. Besides, Tim's got long haul options on the line.

Re:John Sculley, Anyone? (1)

mattack2 (1165421) | more than 2 years ago | (#38079962)

I recall what happened to Apple last time an outsider became a high-level executive

You apparently don't understand the term "non-executive chairman".

Total power vacuum. (1)

miffo.swe (547642) | more than 2 years ago | (#38075496)

Often after a strong leader disappears the vacuum afterwards usually ends up in a huge power struggle from all the underlings. All the pent up motives and needs surfaces at once all over the place.

Unless the new leader is exceptionally strong and good at suppression i expect a huge power struggle at Apple where much good talent will be tossed as sharkfood. Its not unusual that power struggles like these almost destroys otherwise very healthy companies.

VERY UNFORTUNATE (-1, Flamebait)

Dainsanefh (2009638) | more than 2 years ago | (#38076150)

Steve Jobs, an Muslim Arab-American, fight hard to keep the company he founded to fall under the Zionist Jew World Order. He ultimately lost his battle against the Jew-founded Google and gave up his life. Now the only major Jew-Free computer company has fallen to the hands of the kike Arthur Levinson. Apple will fallen to the path similar to that of another Jewish computer company, Dell Computer.

The Jewish Domination of the IT industry is complete.

Re:VERY UNFORTUNATE (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38076792)

...I don't even...

Re:VERY UNFORTUNATE (1)

sessamoid (165542) | more than 2 years ago | (#38077272)

Mod this stupid fuck down to oblivion.

You will fail... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38077442)

the message is out... and Palestine shall be free!

Hello, I know you are the 1% (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38080394)

because if you are the other 99% you will see that the danger of Jew World Order.

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