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Dual-Core Android PC Now Comes On a USB Stick

Soulskill posted more than 2 years ago | from the soon-computers-will-fit-inside-your-teeth dept.

Android 178

absolut.evil writes "FXI Technologies has taken a dual core smartphone-esque computer and put it into a little USB stick. Neat. This allows you to plug into anything with a screen, USB port, and input device and run your own instance of Android. It weighs 21 grams and contains 'a dual-core 1.2-GHz Samsung Exynos ARM CPU (same as in the Galaxy S II), 802.11n Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, HDMI-out and a microSD card slot for memory.'"

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!Now (4, Informative)

pushing-robot (1037830) | more than 2 years ago | (#38103486)

Consumer pricing has not yet been established, but product is expected to be available in volumes the second half of 2012.

Re:!Now (2)

s0litaire (1205168) | more than 2 years ago | (#38103692)

If it's over $25 then it's a no go...

Re:!Now (2)

ksd1337 (1029386) | more than 2 years ago | (#38103744)

Well, the specs are better than Raspberry Pi. It really depends on the target audience.

Re:!Now (2, Interesting)

hairyfeet (841228) | more than 2 years ago | (#38105016)

I'd say even then its kinda pointless unless you are developing Android apps. I mean what is the point of firing up an entire computer only to run ANOTHER full computer in a USB form factor? talk about "Yo Dawg, i heard you like computing so I put a computer in your computer so you can compute while you compute"!

I still think the better way to go is Expressgate/SplashTop. you have a single chip that plugs into a USB port on the motherboard and you have an instant dual boot that works at the BIOS level. no extra CPU, no extra RAM, just use what the machine has on it to run a fast stripped down web environment.

The fact that they are running dual core and only say "it is expected to run under $200" makes me think this thing will be $199 PLUS the cost of whatever device you run it on. hell at that price you could just buy a real Android device!

Re:!Now (5, Informative)

jduhls (1666325) | more than 2 years ago | (#38103936)

Wired says it will be less than $200:

http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2011/11/android-cotton-candy-fxi/ [wired.com]

Re:!Now (1)

jduhls (1666325) | more than 2 years ago | (#38104002)

I see now this fact is in the TFA, also. I could reach the other links as they were busy being /.'ed.

Re:!Now (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38104116)

I see now this fact is in the TFA, also. I could reach the other links as they were busy being /.'ed.

If you COULD reach the other links then what's the problem?

Say what you mean, you clumsy careless fool.

overpriced and not even priced yet (1)

frovingslosh (582462) | more than 2 years ago | (#38103954)

FXI hasn’t set pricing yet for the Cotton Candy, but expects it to cost considerably less than $200 per unit.

So it might be less than $200, but maybe not. At anywhere near that price it would make a lot more sense to just buy a low end Android device that you can carry with you than to try to make this thing work with other devices. And I don't believe the claim that you can just plug this into anything with a USB port and somehow magically take it over. Might work on a few Windows boxes, but there is no way that they can design it to take over everything with a USB port on it.

Re:overpriced and not even priced yet (1)

fluffy99 (870997) | more than 2 years ago | (#38104322)

FXI hasn’t set pricing yet for the Cotton Candy, but expects it to cost considerably less than $200 per unit.

So it might be less than $200, but maybe not. At anywhere near that price it would make a lot more sense to just buy a low end Android device that you can carry with you than to try to make this thing work with other devices. And I don't believe the claim that you can just plug this into anything with a USB port and somehow magically take it over. Might work on a few Windows boxes, but there is no way that they can design it to take over everything with a USB port on it.

If it had a firewire port which allows a connected device DMA access to memory, then I would think it could potentially take over. Actually this would make one heck of a keylogger if it had firewire. You could read anything in memory at any time.

Re:overpriced and not even priced yet (1)

Daniel Phillips (238627) | more than 2 years ago | (#38104452)

there is no way that they can design it to take over everything with a USB port on it

More like "anything that can boot from USB or alternatively, install the host side usb driver"

Re:!Now (1)

jmorris42 (1458) | more than 2 years ago | (#38104666)

Exactly. Why do we have to have a post about a press release for a product that may or may not actually come into existence next year?

A year is a very long time in this game, things will be very different, those specs will be obsolete for one thing.

If it ships, then we can discuss it, the usual suspects can troll, folks can point out it is pointless for reasons a, b and c. And so on.

America kicks your ass! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38103512)

And this is exactly why we need SOPA. Innovation like this would not be possible anymore if we let rogue foreigners pirate our IP. Please help reelect such fine representatives such as the bill's introducer Lamar Smith (R) and true patriot co-sponsors such as Bob Goodlatte (R), Dennis R. Ross (R), Elton Gallegy (R), Marsha Blackburn (R), Mary Bono Mack (R), Steve Chabot (R), Timothy Griffin (R), Lee Terry (R), Mark Amodei (R), John Carter (R), Peter King (R), Thomas Marino (R), Alan Nunnelee (R), Steve Scalise (R). Bring back home the $135 billion bring stolen from this country by pirates and counterfeiters.

Re:America kicks your ass! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38103574)

This is really the new troll thing? It's not even funny. I miss Dr. Bob.

Re:America kicks your ass! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38104688)

This is really the new troll thing? It's not even funny. I miss Dr. Bob.

He trolled the wrong person and was later found completely subluxated.

Re:America kicks your ass! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38103644)

I'm hoping this is posted as ironic, realizing that the majority of readers in this venue will use it as a list of representatives to vote against in the next election.

Actually, I don't hope or even care.... just observing what's likely to happen with it. Anyone rabid enough to support SOPA would already know who they need to vote for to further their own personal view of how the universe should be ordered.

Re:America kicks your ass! (4, Insightful)

DanTheStone (1212500) | more than 2 years ago | (#38103750)

You're missing John Barrow (D), Karen Bass (D), John Conyers (D), Howard Berman (D), Ted Deutch (D), Ben Lujan (D), Adam Schiff (D), William Owens (D), Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D), and Melvin Watt (D). Surely if we're going to support the (R) candidates we should support the (D) candidates with the same beliefs.

Re:America kicks your ass! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38103810)

No we do not support traitors who pretend to be patriots.

Re:America kicks your ass! (2)

poetmatt (793785) | more than 2 years ago | (#38103884)

absolutely. This is a bipartisan rape of people's rights, it's not specific to republican or democrat. It should also be noted that Tea party and libertarians were in full support of SOPA via various political figures too.

Re:America kicks your ass! (1)

vlad30 (44644) | more than 2 years ago | (#38103896)

I'll support the (R)(R)(R)'s because I like pirates and I consider a bunch of (D)'s a monumental failure that send us down a grade or two

donotwant (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38103514)

"The laptop use case shows how with FXI’s patent protected Any Screen Virtualization Protocol"

Compare to RDP or VNC over emulated Ethernet (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 2 years ago | (#38103662)

I'd like to see how this patented process differs from, say, RDP or VNC over an emulated Ethernet adapter.

Re:donotwant (2)

blair1q (305137) | more than 2 years ago | (#38103668)

Well, okay, but the non-luddites are going to be playing Angry Birds on every flat-panel TV in town without you.

Re:donotwant (1)

Bradmont (513167) | more than 2 years ago | (#38103674)

I will never understand why companies like this feel the need to reinvent the wheel instead of using established, open tech (like any of the millions of VNC variants). Not only do you spend a whole bunch of extra time building it, you make it less compatible with existing platforms!

Re:donotwant (2)

MightyMartian (840721) | more than 2 years ago | (#38103856)

But how else do you patent "remote control of a computer" and sue everyone out of business if not by first introducing your own product which you can claim is being harmed by those conniving thieves out there.

Re:donotwant (1)

Desler (1608317) | more than 2 years ago | (#38104082)

Because compatibility isn't their goal?

Re:donotwant (1)

causality (777677) | more than 2 years ago | (#38104146)

Because compatibility isn't their goal?

Yes, that's what he said he doesn't understand.

Really, it's okay to infer something on your own.

Re:donotwant (1)

Desler (1608317) | more than 2 years ago | (#38104190)

What's to not understand? They don't want to be compatible because then they have no leverage over the tech. On the other hand they can, as in this case, patent the tech and lock you in.

Re:donotwant (2)

causality (777677) | more than 2 years ago | (#38104330)

What's to not understand? They don't want to be compatible because then they have no leverage over the tech. On the other hand they can, as in this case, patent the tech and lock you in.

I'm not the one who questioned it. Pretending that I am is another fail.

My point in the initial response to you was that you either failed to comprehend or chose to trivialize the question the other poster was asking. Both are useless.

Anyway, as that other poster implies, not using a proprietary technology and being more compatible may increase the usefulness of the device. That, in turn, might be another way to increase sales. I suppose he was wondering what reason they have to believe that proprietary lock-in is more profitable than this.

Isn't that more useful than restating the obvious by saying "it's not one of their goals"? Clearly it is not, or else they would act accordingly. The constructive thing to do then is to move past the obvious that we can all observe and look into why it is that way and whether it could be done differently and how viable that would be.

Angry Birds (3, Funny)

ForestGrump (644805) | more than 2 years ago | (#38103546)

Good. Now I can play Angry Birds on my computer at work.

Do you need to be admin for usb part in a system (1)

Joe_Dragon (2206452) | more than 2 years ago | (#38103606)

TO work as if they be plugged in to any system and just start being able to use the systems video out, keyboard and mouse makes it seem a good hackers tool.

Re:Angry Birds (2)

blair1q (305137) | more than 2 years ago | (#38103702)

If you can get the Chrome browser on your work computer, you can do that already.

Re:Angry Birds (1)

Guy Harris (3803) | more than 2 years ago | (#38104062)

If you can get the Chrome browser on your work computer, you can do that already.

Hell, if you have Windows, Mac OS X, or {fill in your other x86 UN*X}+Wine on your work computer, you can do that already. I think the person to whom you were responding may have known that and just tossed in a bit of snark.

Re:Angry Birds (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38104148)

done even need chrome
nav to http://chrome.angrybirds.com/

even works in firefox 8

Re:Angry Birds (1)

wisty (1335733) | more than 2 years ago | (#38104328)

What if your work standardizes on IE6?

Re:Angry Birds (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38104474)

Run Chrome off a thumbdrive.

Re:Angry Birds (2)

Capt.DrumkenBum (1173011) | more than 2 years ago | (#38104684)

What if your work standardizes on IE6?

Then it is time to find a new job. :)

Fingertop! (1)

aglider (2435074) | more than 2 years ago | (#38103588)

After floortop, desktop and laptop finally we have a really new formfactor.
Neat and cool!
It'a pity it's useless witout a properly powered screen!

Re:Fingertop! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38103652)

We're now living in a post-tablet world.

You can now get Angry Birds on your computer! No need to pay for an iPad!

Re:Fingertop! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38103720)

We're now living in a post-tablet world.

We have to wait for Apple to produce their own USB computer and claim to have invented the form factor (INOVASHUN!) before we reach that point.

Re:Fingertop! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38104126)

They will just put a shiny case on it with a single power button, also they'll take off the USB port so it's more like the rest of their products.

Re:Fingertop! (1)

blair1q (305137) | more than 2 years ago | (#38103694)

Portable, luggable, wearable...ingestible?

Re:Fingertop! (1)

Daniel Phillips (238627) | more than 2 years ago | (#38104486)

Portable, luggable, wearable...ingestible?

...inhalable. (See Diamond Age.)

Re:Fingertop! (1)

fahrbot-bot (874524) | more than 2 years ago | (#38104930)

Portable, luggable, wearable...ingestible?

I think the word for which you're looking, especially given the subject "Fingertop!", is insertable.
Remember: Gloves and lube are your friends...

Re:Fingertop! (1)

TeknoHog (164938) | more than 2 years ago | (#38104068)

The leading Finnish newspaper Helsingin Sanomat had a competition to suggest a native name for a tablet computer. The winner was "sormitietokone" or "finger computer". Apparently, the logic was that it is a computer that you use with your fingers.

Developers (5, Interesting)

bjb_admin (1204494) | more than 2 years ago | (#38103600)

I can understand developers would like this, since the android emulator in the SDK is slower than molasses in (northern) December. I suppose ICS would not be an issue to get on this for the future.

But $200 seems a little steep since a real tablet can be purchased for that price range (although with perhaps with less CPU/RAM). $50-$100 would probably be the sweet point.

Actually this reminds me of something I thought of when Siri came out. How long is it going to take for someone to come out with a screenless / keypadless phone that is pure voice recognition (built into a headset like a BT headset??)? Same thing for GPS units (rather than being distracted by a map you just have to listen to the directions, much like having a person reading you directions "like in the old days"). That would extend battery life, reduce costs, although would also reduce it to the basic functionality (sorry no angry birds).

Re:Developers (2)

jeffmeden (135043) | more than 2 years ago | (#38103738)

I can understand developers would like this, since the android emulator in the SDK is slower than molasses in (northern) December.

I suppose ICS would not be an issue to get on this for the future.

But $200 seems a little steep since a real tablet can be purchased for that price range (although with perhaps with less CPU/RAM). $50-$100 would probably be the sweet point.

It appears that this is not to be thought of as some sort of substitute phone (or other mobile device) but a way to take the effort into mobile development (Angry Birds, ultra low power graphics, etc.) and plaster it on a big screen. $200 might be a little steep for a set-side box (as we can see with the trouble Google TV and Apple TV have had) but if the price comes down or if there is a particularly killer app (portability is already a wow factor) then this might be a popular little gadget. I can picture a streamlined version (skip BT, right size the CPU/GPU) and you could have a highly portable media player that can be remotely controlled via a smartphone app. It would be nice to have a highly portable content streamer that was like a smartphone but wasnt actually a smartphone (having to stop your movie to take a call is a deal breaker.)

Re:Developers (4, Insightful)

SkimTony (245337) | more than 2 years ago | (#38103786)

I'm not sure that would stop them. Can you imagine all the people on the train playing angry birds by voice command!?

It's a good thing my headphones are sound isolating. I'd hate to have to listen to that.

Re:Developers (5, Funny)

martin-boundary (547041) | more than 2 years ago | (#38104900)

Can you imagine all the people on the train playing angry birds by voice command!?

Large metropolis, 7:30 Monday morning, a train heading towards the CBD:

Commuter1: "Caw"
Commuter2: "Caw-caw"
Commuter3: "Caw-caw, caw-caw"
Commuter1: "Caw-ca-caw-caw"
Commuter3: "Caw-caw-caw-caw"
Commuter1: "Caw-caw, Damn, hey Commuter3, keep it down will you? I'm in the middle of a game!"
Commuter3: "Shut up Commuter1, you stupid loser, Caw-caw-caw-caw-caw-caw....caw!"
Commuter2: "Hey guys, stop arguing, it's interfering with my game"
Commuter1: "Fuck you Commuter2, I just lost the high score, want me to come over there and help you? Caw-Caw! How d'you like them birds?"

???

News at 11: "This morning's tragedy in the commuter train will be remembered for a long time..."

Re:Developers (1)

Gilmoure (18428) | more than 2 years ago | (#38104112)

You could wear it on your chest and make a cool gold symbol...

Re:Developers (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38104236)

no angry birds

"You are standing at the end of a road before a large slingshot.
Around you is a forest. A small flock of birds is sitting besides the slingshot, looking towards the pig castle."

I'm calling it. We've come full circle!

Re:Developers (2)

optimism (2183618) | more than 2 years ago | (#38104902)

$200 seems a little steep since a real tablet can be purchased for that price range

Similarly, $1/GB seems steep for a USB flash drive, since hard-drive space can be purchased for less than $0.05/GB.
Size and convenience do, in fact, matter.
However, it's a moot point since the gizmo in TFA is vaporware, unlikey to be produced in any mass-marketable quantity.

How long is it going to take for someone to come out with a screenless / keypadless phone that is pure voice recognition (built into a headset like a BT headset??)? Same thing for GPS units (rather than being distracted by a map you just have to listen to the directions, much like having a person reading you directions "like in the old days"). That would extend battery life, reduce costs, although would also reduce it to the basic functionality (sorry no angry birds).

I doubt you'll ever see this device.

Voice recognition & response are horribly inefficient compared to visual input & output. We've had the ability to do it in consumer products for about 15 years, but it hasn't caught on for this very reason.

Voice support is extremely helpful when your eyes are busy doing something more important. For most folks, that means driving.

But for most purposes, a smartphone with tactile input and visual output (e.g. a touchscreen) is much more useful, so you carry it anyway. If you want to go voice-only to save battery life, you can just turn off the screen. So...why would you carry a smartphone with a display (for most usage) AND a voice-only device (for a subset of the stuff that the smartphone can already do).

The only answer I can think of is: for ultra-minimal carrying. Same as carrying a tiny money-clip, instead of your larger wallet, when you go out on the town. But the economics still aren't there. This voice-only device would have to cost less than $50 (and work with the same account as your everyday smartphone) before it would make sense for many people.

Website /.ed (1)

Archangel Michael (180766) | more than 2 years ago | (#38103614)

Already.

Re:Website /.ed (1)

metalgamer84 (1916754) | more than 2 years ago | (#38103650)

I got into the site right has the story was posted, it was sluggish. You can still get into it, its just very slow now. Site hasn't totally crashed though.

Re:Website /.ed (4, Funny)

OakDragon (885217) | more than 2 years ago | (#38103660)

Perhaps they're using the device as the server?

Mod parent funny (0)

grahamsaa (1287732) | more than 2 years ago | (#38103704)

ok slashdot, since apparently you're going to make me type more than ":)" in the comment, how's this?

Re:Mod parent funny (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38104086)

The comment filter already determined the value of your post and you still posted anyway?

Re:Website /.ed (1)

blair1q (305137) | more than 2 years ago | (#38103722)

And if you find out they're serving it from one of these computers, will you say that with the same attitude?

Re:Website /.ed (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38103816)

actually reddit'd. actually, if you pay attention, most of what is posted on /. nowadays is taken from reddit.

Power (0)

aglider (2435074) | more than 2 years ago | (#38103658)

"Plug in a USB power cord to an electrical source" [fxitech.com]
And then I'd need a bluetooth keyboard and mouse. uSD strage is going to be filled in very quickly and I fear I'd
end up with needing also a WiFi NAS [wikipedia.org] for extra storage.
Nay! I think this toy is doomed to (business) failure!

Why Android? (2)

lucian1900 (1698922) | more than 2 years ago | (#38103676)

This device could be much more useful if it shipped with a desktop linux distro, like Ubuntu or Fedora.

Re:Why Android? (1)

Microlith (54737) | more than 2 years ago | (#38103766)

And if the vendor is forthcoming and supportive, it could readily be made to run a regular Linux distro. If they're worthless like most handset/tablet vendors, then they'll not help and possibly set up security to hinder your ability to do so.

Who can use it? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38103776)

>> This device could be much more useful if it shipped with a desktop linux distro, like Ubuntu or Fedora.

This device could be much more useful if it shipped just plain memory stick.
Except /. news i can't see any use for it.

Re:Why Android? (3, Informative)

metalgamer84 (1916754) | more than 2 years ago | (#38103778)

Though the current prototype runs Android 2.3, Borgar told us that the ARM-based hardware can run Ubuntu Linux currently and future versions should be able to run the ARM version of Windows 8.

With Ubuntu installed, the Cotton Candy can even be turned into a mobile file or web server!

RTFA next time.

Re:Why Android? (5, Funny)

LynnwoodRooster (966895) | more than 2 years ago | (#38104324)

Though the current prototype runs Android 2.3, Borgar told us that the ARM-based hardware can run Ubuntu Linux currently and future versions should be able to run the ARM version of Windows 8.

With Ubuntu installed, the Cotton Candy can even be turned into a mobile file or web server!

RTFA next time.

RTFA? RTFA?!?!?!

THIS - IS - SLASHDOT!

Re:Why Android? (1)

Shatrat (855151) | more than 2 years ago | (#38103880)

Apps > apt-get for most people.

Re:Why Android? (1)

Microlith (54737) | more than 2 years ago | (#38104038)

That may be, but why is it always implied that silly access to apps is mutually exclusive to having a nice back end infrastructure with access to a repository? Not that this is the kind of thing that your average Android user is going to buy.

Certainly it's mutually exclusive with Android, as Google has worked hard to fail to include any of that.

"Any" is not "Any" (3, Informative)

markdavis (642305) | more than 2 years ago | (#38103764)

>"plug into anything with a screen, USB port, and input device and run your own instance of Android"

*WRONG*

The word "anything" could not be more WRONG. It specifically says in the article that you have to run "special software" that is MS-Windows or MacOS *only*. That is not "anything" with a screen. Exactly how would plugging that FXI "computer usb stick" into my Mandriva Linux desktop machine, Xoom Android tablet, my Fedora Linux laptop, or my RHEL server going to give the FXI access to my keyboard, mouse, network, and monitor without very specialized and deeply-rooted software to support it?

Then, even if it is an MS-Windows or MacOS machine, that doesn't mean it will be able to or allowed to run such alien software.

The article says it has WiFi, Bluetooth, and HDMI on the FXI, so it has a LOT of possibilities, is fascinating, and really cool. I don't know why the article and the summary have to step out of bounds with such sensationalist stuff like "anything with a monitor".

Re:"Any" is not "Any" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38103842)

Well if the USB device acts as a network adapter then you could use a technology like VNC or even a web based version of it to use the device on pretty much anything.

Re:"Any" is not "Any" (1)

markdavis (642305) | more than 2 years ago | (#38103930)

True that. But it still pre-assumes that the particular "network adapter" it emulates is understood and compatible with the host machine. And that the user even has the rights to add a network controller.

It could use its built-in wifi, but then that assumes the computer it is connected to *has* wifi.

There are lots of possibilities, but none can provide a situation where "anything with a screen" is supported, as claimed by the article and summary.

Re:"Any" is not "Any" (4, Informative)

shutdown -p now (807394) | more than 2 years ago | (#38103914)

The word "anything" could not be more WRONG. It specifically says in the article that you have to run "special software" that is MS-Windows or MacOS *only*. That is not "anything" with a screen. Exactly how would plugging that FXI "computer usb stick" into my Mandriva Linux desktop machine, Xoom Android tablet, my Fedora Linux laptop, or my RHEL server going to give the FXI access to my keyboard, mouse, network, and monitor without very specialized and deeply-rooted software to support it?

The special software in question is only used when you want to run this (and see the output) on top of an already running OS, in a window. It's basically like VNC or RDP. However, they also support standalone operation - from TFA:

"When connected to an HDTV, it uses the HDMI port for video, the USB for power, and Bluetooth to connect to a keyboard, mouse, or tablet for controlling the operating system. "

Which basically means that you need to also have an HDMI cable handy.

nope (2)

Chirs (87576) | more than 2 years ago | (#38104622)

It looks like it's got a male usb connector on one end and a male hdmi connector on the other. Just stick it into the hdmi port on the TV/monitor.

Re:nope (2)

shutdown -p now (807394) | more than 2 years ago | (#38104794)

My understanding is that you still need to plug the USB end somewhere to power it. So you need either a USB extension cable, or an HDMI extension cable.

Re:"Any" is not "Any" (1)

Jah-Wren Ryel (80510) | more than 2 years ago | (#38105018)

The special software in question is only used when you want to run this (and see the output) on top of an already running OS, in a window. It's basically like VNC or RDP.

If they were really clever they would make the USB device act like a nic on a private network with the android system the only other device on the network. Then they really could just use bog-standard RDP and it would work with practically anything.

Re:"Any" is not "Any" (1)

murdocj (543661) | more than 2 years ago | (#38103924)

From TFA: "FXI demonstrated Cotton Candy for the first time by connecting it via HDMI to a 42” HDTV running Android and displaying YouTube videos and 3D games."

Just what part of the TV was running MS Windows?

Re:"Any" is not "Any" (1)

markdavis (642305) | more than 2 years ago | (#38104000)

From the summary: "plug into anything with a screen, USB port, and input device "

How does the FXI connect to and use the input device that was on the HDMI 42" HDTV? Perhaps they connected to a bluetooth keyboard or something, but that is *NOT* using the input device of what was used with the device they plugged it into.

From FTA: "the worldâ(TM)s first any screen, connected computing USB device."

And if what if your "screen" has no HDMI port? How is that "any screen"?

Again, it is a cool device, but saying "anything" or "any screen" or "any device" is just not true.

Re:"Any" is not "Any" (1)

cheeks5965 (1682996) | more than 2 years ago | (#38104200)

you're a hair-splitting ninja, my friend. black belt. hi-YA!

Re:"Any" is not "Any" (1)

markdavis (642305) | more than 2 years ago | (#38104292)

:) Sorry, it just irks me when articles and such use incorrect absolutes. It pimps features that do not exist. And/or it ignores everything they didn't consider "main stream" which can be insulting.

Re:"Any" is not "Any" (1)

murdocj (543661) | more than 2 years ago | (#38104360)

The parent I replied to said that it only worked with Windows or Mac. Just because it can't turn a TV into a keyboard, I'm still not seeing the Windows / Mac requirement. Sounds like it works as advertised.

HDMI, how quaint! (1)

Thud457 (234763) | more than 2 years ago | (#38103818)

Why no wireless DTV transmitter?!! I mean, really, been the twentyfirst century! for like, a decade, now! Why the hell do I need to hook things up with wires or plug them in except for matters of security or power?!!

you benighted savages disgust me.

Re:HDMI, how quaint! (3, Insightful)

Miamicanes (730264) | more than 2 years ago | (#38104556)

Because you'd have to transform the display into a MPEG-2 data stream with maximum bitrate of 19.2mbit/sec, then modulate it onto an 8-VSB carrier (to work in the US) and COFDM (to work in most other places). It's nontrivial. 8-VSB, in particular, is a bitch to do. The wireless video modulator ALONE would have added a MINIMUM of $50 to the manufacturing cost, and THAT'S if they dusted off the Zenith chipset DirecTV was planning to use before the MAFIAA killed their plans for using 8VSB for whole-house HD video distribution over existing 75-ohm cable to keep the development costs down to a minimum.

Furthermore, 19.2mbit/sec MPEG-2 would utterly suck for high-contrast "computer-type" applications where you're displaying things like windows and rendered text at high resolution and framerates. If you buffered it to take advantage of predictive frames to increase the effective bandwidth, you'd end up with annoying lag. If you tried to do the whole thing with I-frames, your text would be a fuzzy macroblock-ridden mess.

Re:HDMI, how quaint! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38104938)

Because "everything wireless" is as retarded as "everything tablet" and "everything cloud".
It's nothing more than a buzzword for dumb people.
If you can do it by just using a wire, It has no point.
It then only has disadvantages: More power usage, a lot more complex tech, more expensive, radiates in *all* directions, is (as you said) pointlessly insecure, will always be a lot slower and more prone to connection problems, etc, etc.
And all that, just because you're too fuckin' lazy to take a cable and stick in in two ports that are 1-2 meters apart. "Oh no! I have to move more than ONE meter! I might not make it!" ... well maybe that would be better, considering your attitude.

Laziness - The behavior of saving so many resources that instead of being more efficient, it results in being less efficient.

Who has the patents registered? (1)

bogaboga (793279) | more than 2 years ago | (#38103894)

I wonder who has the patents on this [idea] registered. Anyone?

21 grams (2)

TeknoHog (164938) | more than 2 years ago | (#38103938)

or about the mass of a human soul [imdb.com] .

Article say *not* Android-only (1)

devleopard (317515) | more than 2 years ago | (#38103946)

Running Android for now, but plans are to offer an Ubuntu version, as well as Windows 8

... the ARM-based hardware can run Ubuntu Linux currently and future versions should be able to run the ARM version of Windows 8

Re:Article say *not* Android-only (1)

Microlith (54737) | more than 2 years ago | (#38104058)

Yes, I can't wait to install Windows 8 on my device and artificially restrict my sources of software to the Microsoft web store.

Re:Article say *not* Android-only (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38104350)

Dur Linux is good. Windows is for newbs who want artificial restrictions on their freedom. Dur.

How is the stuff on the bottom of your foot RMS?

fairy floss (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38104048)

what is cotton candy?

Scandinavians again. (4, Interesting)

unity100 (970058) | more than 2 years ago | (#38104198)

Again scandinavians with an innovation. after first osmosis power plant, wood chip power plant, and many more. not to mention software (linux).

behold how social democracy (Called socialism in u.s.), govt. funded education, social security etc leaves a nation behind in development and innovation.

............ not. that is despite compared to u.s. and the resources, riches and population it has, scandinavia is not even comparable. in total they dont even amount to good 10 mil+ population. resources - almost none. colonies and satellite nations - none. nothing. nada.

Re:Scandinavians again. (1)

Tumbleweed (3706) | more than 2 years ago | (#38104588)

http://babylon5.wikia.com/wiki/Swedish_meatballs [wikia.com]

"Swedish meatballs, an Earth ground meat delicacy that is something of an interstellar mystery. Every spacefaring race is known to have a food identical to Swedish meatballs, be it Narn Breen or Centauri Prime's Roopo balls. Even races as diverse as the Abbai, Drazi and even the Gaim all have an equivalent dish, though the Centauri are the only ones with the audacity to claim they are the ones who invented it."

Re:Scandinavians again. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38104614)

Maybe you're right about the innovation, but the good thing isn't even producing top notch people in any field (whether or not and how much true that is), but that it doesn't come bundled with as much misery and suffering for large chunks of the populace.

Even if the reverse to what you're saying was true, that cold hard social Darwinism would produce a larger percentage of absolute elite achievers, the costs are stupendously not worth it, on a societal scale.

Re:Scandinavians again. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38104886)

So, they're ready to be invaded? Cool.

Nvidia patent (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38104238)

The Nvidia Patent [tomshardware.com] seems to cover the Cotton Candy device pretty well, though it seems pretty much a load od b***ocks.

modus operandi (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38104246)

clearly they have implemented a modified usb-storage device using a microcontroller that serves up an autoinstalling disk image. This installs some client software that effectively runs a remote X/VNC session to the stick over USB, job done.

Size of a cigarette lighter?? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38104544)

How big is a cigarette lighter? I'm not sure that I know anyone who smokes.

Re:Size of a cigarette lighter?? (1)

Wingfat (911988) | more than 2 years ago | (#38104594)

no one that smokes? wow, you must not work in San Francisco ;-) or you go to a middle school. Even my new 2010 car has a real working cig lighter.

Anything with a USB? like my PSP??? (1)

Wingfat (911988) | more than 2 years ago | (#38104582)

I was driving into work this morning thinking it would be awesome to have Android on my PSP for have fun with Apps and playing more games with a controller.. (Yes i do have the Xperia Play, but I am tall, and have large hands and would like to have the same experiance on a larger screen and larger game pad. )

Slim Silent HTPC Anyone? (1)

Zrako (1306145) | more than 2 years ago | (#38104692)

If this thing can really handle 1080p video, has Bluetooth and wifi and can run when plugged directly into an HDTV why not use it as a perfectly silent HTPC. Have your files stored on a network hard drive that you access via wifi and use a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse and you are good to go. For a good chunk of the general public all they would want with a HTPC is to watch movies, listen to music and go on the web which this thing should be able to do no problem.

Since nobody else has said it... (1, Funny)

ebh (116526) | more than 2 years ago | (#38105002)

Imagine a Beowulf cluster of these!

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