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First Post (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38185594)

I have something 4 inches to show you...

Re:First Post (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38185984)

Is it the width of your mothers diseased vagina?

So the daily Jobs bowel movement posts keep comin' (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38186116)

I thought we were done with those, but,
  every rumor,
  every idiosyncracy,
  every non-newsworthy, trivial, bieberite thing about it,
is a front page /. post.

The integrity of the process (yeah, I know, have I read /. lately) is in jeopardy. Please stop, before Netcraft gets involved.

Re:So the daily Jobs bowel movement posts keep com (1, Insightful)

symbolset (646467) | more than 2 years ago | (#38186292)

There's a submit story link on every page. Want better content? Click it.

Here We Go.... (4, Insightful)

RobinEggs (1453925) | more than 2 years ago | (#38185600)

Can we just agree that Apple hardware articles are flamebait by default, especially the ones about the mere possibility of new Apple hardware, and stop frickin posting them?

Re:Here We Go.... (0, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38185868)

Yeah, especially since 3D printing is supposed to change everything, what's the point of these stories when I can just 3D print a screen with ten times the resolution?

Re:Here We Go.... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38186272)

Which one of you Luddites dared to mod me down!? When I'll be living on Mars next to Elon Musk's palace, you won't be modding me down then! Ahhhh ahahahahahahahaaaaaa hahaha hahaaaaaaa!!!!!

Re:Here We Go.... (5, Insightful)

ThorGod (456163) | more than 2 years ago | (#38185950)

Can we just agree that Apple hardware articles are flamebait by default, especially the ones about the mere possibility of new Apple hardware, and stop frickin posting them?

Plenty of the more popular things posted on this site are polarizing. Look at some of the things that aren't polarizing, how many comments they get, and contrast with the number of comments here. I'd argue it'd be irrational to not run stories that *always* get a large number of comments.

I love the theoretical physics posts, for instance, but they usually average 30-50 comments. This Apple post, though, might run 100 comments (or more) and it's just on screen size!

If it's not AMOLED it'll be polarizing (5, Funny)

tepples (727027) | more than 2 years ago | (#38185960)

Look at some of the things that aren't polarizing

Except it's impossible to have an article about a new device with an LCD panel without it being polarizing, because polarizing is how LCDs work. In order for it not to be polarizing, it'd have to be AMOLED or something.

Re:If it's not AMOLED it'll be polarizing (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38186334)

Which the new screen isn't, since it is described as near OLED power consumption, and not AMOLED in any way shape or form.

If OP had read the article, we wouldn't even had had to have this discussion. Sheesh!!!!!!!!

Won't sell. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38185610)

All my iPhone loving friends rubbish the size of the high end android phone screens and say they don't want anything bigger than the current iScreen.

Re:Won't sell. (5, Insightful)

Tyrannosaur (2485772) | more than 2 years ago | (#38185640)

except... if the next one is 4", then that would make the "current iScreen" 4", so they'll be happy. Don't you know how Apple works?

iPhone 5? (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38185612)

Why do people keep referring to the next iPhone as the iPhone 5? Let's count together shall we?

Original iPhone: iPhone 1
iPhone 3G: iPhone 2
iPhone 3GS: iPhone 3
iPhone 4: iPhone 4
iPhone 4S: iPhone 5
Next iPhone: iPhone 6

Now, if Apple decides to call the next iPhone the iPhone 5, then I'll gladly eat my words, but until then, c'mon now.

Re:iPhone 5? (1, Informative)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 2 years ago | (#38185682)

Because the 4S really is the iphone 5 beta release or RC1. It's not a real phone but a hardware test platform to sort out the bugs.

Re:iPhone 5? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38185702)

Except that it's mainly an incremental upgrade.

So most of the bugs that exist have been there for a while.

!iPhone5 (1)

msauve (701917) | more than 2 years ago | (#38186252)

"It would be fairly safe to assume that the 4-inch display will be for the next iPhone â" the iPhone 5"

Isn't is obvious? The 5" display is for the MacBook Mini.

Re:iPhone 5? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38186368)

The next one will probably be the 4GS because it will probably have LTE. I wouldn't even be surprised if they keep the design the same again.

I kinda hope not. (5, Insightful)

DWMorse (1816016) | more than 2 years ago | (#38185616)

I kinda hope it doesn't. It might have advantages, having a screen the size of a toaster. The only problem is having a screen the size of a toaster.

I like a phone I can use with one hand easily. This whole post was typed with my right hand only, on my iPhone 4.

Re:I kinda hope not. (1, Insightful)

jon3k (691256) | more than 2 years ago | (#38185686)

I can easily type with one hand on a 4" screen (even 4.3"). Have you tried a 4" phone? Did you consider that 3.5" might not be the right size for every person?

Re:I kinda hope not. (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38185752)

I can easily type with one hand on a 4" screen (even 4.3"). Have you tried a 4" phone? Did you consider that 3.5" might not be the right size for every person?

Ahh but this is Apple. iPhone users have to live with whatever screen size is fed to them, there is no choice in the Apple world.

Re:I kinda hope not. (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38185830)

Not that it matters, because Apple users will use whatever they're given. They'll adapt to whatever Apple throws out next because that's the right thing to do. Any less would be disrespectful to Apple.

Re:I kinda hope not. (5, Insightful)

mug funky (910186) | more than 2 years ago | (#38186010)

that's interesting because there's a bit of truth in it.

it could be argued that Apple can't refine it's interfaces beyond a certain point because users adapt to Apple while Apple adapts to it's users.

perhaps we need competing products so Apple can watch people's complaints about their competitor's interfaces in order to get some fresh ideas for their own, because feedback about their own devices would be tainted by sycophant users who say "doubleplusgood" to everything they buy.

Re:I kinda hope not. (4, Insightful)

DWMorse (1816016) | more than 2 years ago | (#38186312)

Not true at all. If Apple makes a screen that makes their device unusable to me, I will a.) not buy it and b.) move to another device that IS usable. Why do you start out presuming that most people inconvenience themselves by using Apple products? Let the market speak for itself. If I find the device unwieldy, I'll skip it and buy one that isn't. Presuming I even need to replace this sucker anytime soon.

Re:I kinda hope not. (4, Interesting)

DWMorse (1816016) | more than 2 years ago | (#38186154)

I previously owned a Droid X, hence my reference to the disadvantage of a screen the size of a toaster.

I like my handheld portable devices to be handheld. I'm a 6' guy with fairly large hands, great for guitar, bass, and piano. I also have good eyesight, so I don't need a large screen, just high pixel density. /shrug

It'd be entertaining to see an iPhone "Pro" with a bigger screen, and an iPhone "Mini" that's usable. ;)

Re:I kinda hope not. (1)

MBCook (132727) | more than 2 years ago | (#38185814)

I agree. I have an iPhone 4 and I really like the screen on it. I remember when the first Evo 4G came out and one of my coworkers got it on launch day. He was really happy with it, but all I could think was "That's one really big phone". The 4.3" screen just made the thing humungous. I like how well the iPhone slips in my pocket.

The way Apple works, if they did this they would drop the 3.5" model and I wouldn't have a choice if I wanted to stay in the iPhone line.

Personally, I think this is just more "I made up something about Apple!" news, like the 7" iPad 2 that was supposed to come out last year, the iPhone 4-and-a-half that was supposed to come out between the Verizon iPhone and the iPhone 5 (which was supposed to come out), etc.

Re:I kinda hope not. (1)

whoever57 (658626) | more than 2 years ago | (#38186016)

The way Apple works, if they did this they would drop the 3.5" model and I wouldn't have a choice if I wanted to stay in the iPhone line.

Here is where Steve Jobs' design philosophies fall down. We are not talking about the aesthetics of the device, we are discussing how the dimensions of the phone match the user. Hand size, how well the eyes work, etc.. One size does not fit all.

As has been mentioned by others, I expect the same people who would defend the 3.5" screen as the "right" size will defend a 4" screen as the "right" size if and when Apple produces such a phone. Personally, I love my T-Mobile Galaxy S2 with its 4.5" screen. Yes, it's big, but it fits in my pocket and in my hand. I have large hands, so one-handed operation is not a problem for me.

Steve Jobs - TEH VISIONARY!!!1!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38186172)

Steve Jobs.. heh..

>.. Steve took the opportunity to rip on bigger rivals, saying that making a phone so big "you can't get your hand around it" helps, but that "no one's going to buy that." - 16th July 2010.

What a visionary.

Re:I kinda hope not. (1)

BasilBrush (643681) | more than 2 years ago | (#38186212)

Here is where Steve Jobs' design philosophies fall down. We are not talking about the aesthetics of the device, we are discussing how the dimensions of the phone match the user. Hand size, how well the eyes work, etc.. One size does not fit all.

What design philosophies are you talking about? You seem to be assuming one about having a single screen size. But iPod came in a variety of screen sizes, as of course do Macs.

The do indeed believe in one handed operation, and if that is made easier for a significant number of people with a 4" they'd consider it.

I doubt Apple will think a 4" worthwhile, but if they did there's nothing in their history to indicate that would mean dropping the 3.5".

*IF* the report of Apple buying 4" screens is true, and that's a big if, then it's probably for a different device. Perhaps a game console. They're already the biggest handheld games platform with the iPhone/iPod touch. But there are lots of games genres that would benefit from joysticks and buttons. Or maybe it's for a remote for a TV or full sized console. Or maybe it's for an automotive device.

Re:I kinda hope not. (2)

whoever57 (658626) | more than 2 years ago | (#38186338)

What design philosophies are you talking about? You seem to be assuming one about having a single screen size. But iPod came in a variety of screen sizes, as of course do Macs.

iPods with different screen sizes? You mean the NON-touchscreen devices? All iPod touches have 3.5" screens. Macs with different sizes? Since when were Macs hand-held devices? Not good examples.

The do indeed believe in one handed operation, and if that is made easier for a significant number of people with a 4" they'd consider it.

The availability of devices with larger screens from HTC, Samsung, Motorola, etc. suggests very strongly that a significant number of people do benefit from larger screens and the lack of a larger screen device from Apple suggests that Apple did not consider it.

As I have showed that your suggestions don't tally with known facts, I won't bother with the rest of your suppositions.

Re:I kinda hope not. (1)

dissy (172727) | more than 2 years ago | (#38186042)

It gets even worse as far as rumors go

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzsBwnv_dAg [youtube.com]

I would love a phone with those features. But I don't believe anything in that concept video will actually turn up on the new iPhone.

I still have a 3gs, and only skipped the 4 for recent budget changes. The 4s doesn't seem like a great step up from the 4, if I had to buy now.

But since my phones battery is still going strong, I'll hold off until at least the 5 is out either way.

If this one is true about the 4" screen, I might end up rethinking that, and just picking up a cheap used 4.

Short of waiting until launch day and being disappointed, there's not much harm to hope.
Unfortunately with Apple, you can't make any plans ahead of time.

Re:I kinda hope not. (4, Funny)

Dracos (107777) | more than 2 years ago | (#38186186)

The way Apple works, if they did this they would drop the 3.5" model and I wouldn't have a choice if I wanted to stay in the iPhone line.

They would also advertise a new iPhone with a 4 inch screen as if it was the first phone ever to have a screen bigger than that of the current iPhone.

Re:I kinda hope not. (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38185818)

If the bezel was made smaller, a 4" screen could be included without making the phone bigger than its current dimensions.

Re:I kinda hope not. (4, Informative)

Hadlock (143607) | more than 2 years ago | (#38185846)

5" is too big, the bottom end of a tablet size. 4 - 4.2" is about the sweet spot for a touchscreen cell phone. 3.5" is about the bare minimum an adult male can manipulate. I have a 4" screen (seems to be about standard for android phones) and using a friend's iPhone feels very cramped in comparison, especially for things like reading text more than a paragraph long. 4" is about the bare minimum for extended reading.

Screen size isn't phone size (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38185932)

The screen could be 4" diagonal with a taller (thinner) aspect ratio and still fit in the 4/4S form factor.

Re:I kinda hope not. (1)

ILongForDarkness (1134931) | more than 2 years ago | (#38186266)

I think they could easily get another half inch out of the screen by using more of the existing surface as a screen rather than a black/white boarder that serves no purpose on the top and bottom. Well it might serve a purpose but they might have found a way to move the unimportant things (like, you know the parts that make it a phone, microphone and speakers) off to the side rather than tying up front of device real estate.

Re:I kinda hope not. (2)

similar_name (1164087) | more than 2 years ago | (#38186318)

The iPhone 4s has a total diagonal of a little over 5 inches. Depending on how it's done a 4 inch screen does not necessarily mean a bigger phone.

apparently iphone 4S doesn't bring in enough hits (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38185618)

God, we've been talking about the iphone 5 every week for over a year now. I know blogs are desperate for page views, but this is getting old.

Re:apparently iphone 4S doesn't bring in enough hi (2)

caitsith01 (606117) | more than 2 years ago | (#38186134)

Yep. I look forward to the front page stories about new alleged rumoured possible screen sizes for HTC, Nokia, Sony etc... oh wait, those won't get published. Because they're irrelevant and boring. Like this story.

As I keep telling my wife... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38185620)

Four inches should be enough for anyone.

Re:As I keep telling my wife... (2)

Nidi62 (1525137) | more than 2 years ago | (#38185816)

Four inches should be enough for anyone.

Unless you're holding it wrong.

Re:As I keep telling my wife... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38186248)

she told me you would say that.
sent from my 10" netbook

Re:As I keep telling my wife... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38186358)

Honey, you're happy to see me!

Nope. That's my phone.

Re:As I keep telling my wife... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38186362)

Yes, many women I know think they need more than a 5" one.
But really, have they tested what's good for them?
Everyone has different needs because everyone's experience and physical limitations
vary significantly.
Besides my wife is fine with the situation, it's a 2g iPhone.

No. (0, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38185664)

It's a dumb idea. Like fucking Kathleen Fent without a rubber.

Irony (0)

Crimson Wing (980223) | more than 2 years ago | (#38185684)

Seems like I just read an article on Gizmodo not a month ago about how iPhones will never have more than a 3.5" display.

Didn't Samsung or HTC patent 4 inch screens? (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38185694)

Couldn't resist...

Is that really much different? (-1, Redundant)

Waccoon (1186667) | more than 2 years ago | (#38185710)

Aren't LCD screen measurements done diagonally? 4" diagonal isn't much different than the existing iPhones.

It would be dumb to replace the smaller one (1, Interesting)

Dr. Spork (142693) | more than 2 years ago | (#38185722)

I don't think it's crazy for Apple to make a larger iPhone if they see a demand for it. But I do think it would be crazy if they eliminated to pocket-sized version. Many men keep their iPhones in a pocket, and without a cover, it just barely works - depending on the pocket. A phone with a 4" screen would just not be easily pocketable. Sure men could get purses too and carry their phones in there. Then the increase in size wouldn't matter so much. But most won't, if the only advantage they gain is having bigger phone to use.

This is making me think that Apple plans to split their iPhone market and introduce two simultaneous model lines, one bigger and one smaller. Yes, it's a little bit inelegant, but I'm sure they did their focus group research and decided that there is demand for this.

Re:It would be dumb to replace the smaller one (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38185788)

A phone with a 4" screen would just not be easily pocketable. Sure men could get purses too and carry their phones in there. Then the increase in size wouldn't matter so much. But most won't, if the only advantage they gain is having bigger phone to use.

Funny, my phone has a 4" screen and slides quite easily into my pocket. It's also thin enough that I rarely even notice it's there unless I receive a call/txt. Oh wait, you iPhone zealots don't want a bigger screen because then it won't fit in your pocket after you slap a giant otterbox on it so you don't scuff it's "magica" exterior...

Re:It would be dumb to replace the smaller one (2)

poly_pusher (1004145) | more than 2 years ago | (#38185806)

I have a Droid 3 with a 4 inch screen. It's keyboard makes it bulkier than most phones and way bulkier than an Iphone. It's very easily pocketable so any Iphone with a similar screen size will be even more so.

Re:It would be dumb to replace the smaller one (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38185854)

I don't understand why so many people here think a 4" screen is gigantic. Remember that screen size is measured on the diagonal. The current iPhone has a 3.5" screen; a 4" screen would be 14% bigger. Look at an iPhone 4 and you'll see that the display doesn't even take up the whole surface of the device (the bezel on the iPhone is in fact much larger than most other smartphones). Increasing it to 4" could just mean that the display takes up more of the front-face of the device: you wouldn't even have to make it bigger than the current iPhone. Besides, there are lots of Android phones with screens of 4" or more. They are not absurdly big, and plenty of people carry them around in their pockets.

The headline should really read: "Rumour that next-gen iPhone may have incrementally larger display, similar to competing devices already doing well on the market". Not exactly a big deal, here.

Re:It would be dumb to replace the smaller one (1)

shutdown -p now (807394) | more than 2 years ago | (#38185910)

As others have noted, we're talking some really small pockets here if you can just barely fit an iPhone there. I carry a 4.3" phone (Galaxy S2) in my jeans pocket pretty much daily, and there's plenty of room left there.

From this experience, as well as past one with iPhone 4 and Nexus One, I have concluded that screen size doesn't really matter for pocketability, so long as it's below 5" or so. What matters more is thickness (obviously) and weight (heavier phone pulls the pocket down more - ironically, it makes the smaller but heavier iPhone 4 less convenient to carry in the pocket than the larger but lighter SGS2)

Re:It would be dumb to replace the smaller one (4, Funny)

mirix (1649853) | more than 2 years ago | (#38186192)

GP is obviously referring to his excessively tight hipster jeans.

Re:It would be dumb to replace the smaller one (1)

ILongForDarkness (1134931) | more than 2 years ago | (#38186310)

Mah never got the phone in a pocket thing at least with good phones (I use a cheap free bee now so I don't care). You have nice shiny screen so you don't want it to get scratched. That rules out the keys/change pocket. I don't put anything in my back pocket because I'm both not crazy about pick pockets and b) don't want to sit my fat ass on it (both because it isn't comfortable and because said big ass is likely to break it). So that leaves the wallet pocket. That would be a pain tryng to keep the wallet (which is roughly the size of a smartphone) and said phone fitting in the pocket and getting the appropriate device out without accidentally pulling out the other one each time. So ... holster or craptacularly cheap (can you feel your phone bend when you dial a number? I can :-)) phone for me.

Didnt' this get released last month? (3, Insightful)

rjejr (921275) | more than 2 years ago | (#38185732)

Didnt' we just spend the last 6 months saying the iPhone 5 was going to have this screen? Or at least the iPhone 5 was definetly going to be released in October? Isn't this all getting to be a bit too much Apple speculation? At least the Apple iTV is a whole new project so maybe we can just speculate on that for a few months.

Re:Didnt' this get released last month? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38186224)

Forget about that, I'm already searching news about the iPhone 7 which should be available in 2014.

Thanks for the reminder! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38185754)

Why the FUCK would anyone buy an android P.O.S. when the iPhone 5 is just around the corner?

Re:Thanks for the reminder! (1)

marcroelofs (797176) | more than 2 years ago | (#38185800)

Ask the guys left, right and in front of you. If you have an iPhone then statistically they will have an Android, based on salesfigures. iPhone is about 3 years delayed in features and not a real OS.

Re:Thanks for the reminder! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38186066)

Ask the guys left, right and in front of you. If you have an iPhone then statistically they will have an Android, based on salesfigures.
iPhone is about 3 years delayed in features and not a real OS.

Considering that iPhone is not an OS, you're correct on that point, anyways.

Re:Thanks for the reminder! (2, Informative)

BasilBrush (643681) | more than 2 years ago | (#38186100)

You're confused. You're comparing a phone model with an OS.

iPhone is the most popular smartphone.
iOS ships on more devices than Android.

iPad Pygmy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38185762)

It almost sounds more like a pocket sized iPad. Unless it's the long rumored iPhone without a home button which is the most likely option. They aren't likely to change the size so a longer screen size is the most likely and not a bigger overall phone.

Re:iPad Pygmy (1)

geminidomino (614729) | more than 2 years ago | (#38185966)

It almost sounds more like a pocket sized iPad

They should change the name, then. Maybe something more evocative of being pocket sized... Like iPod. Yeah, that'll get 'em lined up. Oh, but it's got a touch screen, too. Have to work that into the name, too, to make sure they know this isn't their un-hip older brother's iPod. We need to ask Marketing what to call it.

iNtroducing: The iPod Fondle!

Re:iPad Pygmy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38186060)

iNtroducing: The iPod Fondle!

I bet this guy [cnet.com] can't wait to upgrade!

*runs*

Blasphemy (1)

marcroelofs (797176) | more than 2 years ago | (#38185812)

He's hardly dead and already they start meddling with the _absolute truths_ according to the Messiah.

Re:Blasphemy (2)

ColdWetDog (752185) | more than 2 years ago | (#38186086)

He's hardly dead and already they start meddling with the _absolute truths_ according to the Messiah.

Happens to every religion.

Seriously?! (5, Insightful)

whisper_jeff (680366) | more than 2 years ago | (#38185828)

I'm a massive Apple fanboi and proud to admit it but, seriously, we're already posting articles about the iPhone 5? Really? It's literally a year away and we're already discussing it? Give it a damn rest!

Not to mention the rumour is that the screen is for a _NEW_ iOS device. If you're going to rumour-monger, at least get the rumours right...

Garbage like that is what gives good Apple fanbois like me a bad name...

Re:Seriously?! (1)

exomondo (1725132) | more than 2 years ago | (#38185978)

but, seriously, we're already posting articles about the iPhone 5? Really? It's literally a year away and we're already discussing it?

How long do you think it takes to design and build a new device? If Apple are building a new device to be sold next year (if it's the next iPhone and they fall back to their original schedule it's 7-8 months away) then the time when they would be beginning to order the components is now. Whether these rumors have any substance is another matter though, if they are going to a 4" iphone display that leaves questions about what the resolution would be.

Re:Seriously?! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38186102)

There's only one thing to say: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVkH9Hgvda4 [youtube.com]
(For the record: I am not interested in any device that doesn't at least replace its OS and boot code. [I don't ask when I want to physically modify it. I own the thing, Mr. Manufacturer, so fuck you.] Because if I can't automate my work away, it's worthless to me. I don't buy it as a hipster e-penis. So I have no interest in wasting my time with rigid-functionality cripple-gadgets.)

Re:Seriously?! (0)

dabooda (412228) | more than 2 years ago | (#38186198)

I don't buy it as a hipster e-penis. So I have no interest in wasting my time with rigid-functionality cripple-gadgets.)

THEN DON'T BUY IT!

I don't see the value in a Louis Vutton wallet because in my opinion they look awful and are overly expensive for what they are. I don't, though, go around criticising people for having them. I just make my choice as a FREE CONSUMER and not buy one.

I used to think Apple fanboys were preachy and annoying but they have nothing on the Andriod Ninnies that feel the need for everyone to have Android phones.

Re:Seriously?! (1)

ThePeices (635180) | more than 2 years ago | (#38186174)

"... screen is for a _NEW_ iOS device..."
So you are saying that the iphone 5 is not a new IOS device? really?

"... If you're going to rumour-monger, at least get the rumours right..."
So you are admitting that you work for Apple, and have just given out forbidden information?
Because unless you actually work for Apple, and are privy to their iphone5 plans, you are just as clueless as everybody else as to Apple's design plans for the iphone.

"I'm a massive Apple fanboi and proud to admit it"
I should have stopped reading at that point instead of falling for the obvious Troll. Oops.

Misdirection (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38185850)

Articles like this are from an industry that wants to create disappointment with Apple products. It's pretty hard to be disappointed in non-existant products, but by trying to build anticipation and then having it be countered by Apples actual announcements they hope to cause negative feelings.

Re:Misdirection (1)

marcroelofs (797176) | more than 2 years ago | (#38185890)

So you say you were disappointed but that it wasn't Apple's fault. Wow, even the pope has less loyal followers.

4 inch is a piker...try the (2)

bricko (1052210) | more than 2 years ago | (#38185872)

Galaxy Note....with 5.2 inch screen and stylus. Now that is a phone.

Re:4 inch is a piker...try the (0)

ColdWetDog (752185) | more than 2 years ago | (#38186128)

Galaxy Note....with 5.2 inch screen and stylus. Now that is a phone.

A stylus? A stylus? Were you in some sort of cryogenic storage? Check your calendar, dude - it's the 21st century already.

Re:4 inch is a piker...try the (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38186308)

Yes, a stylus.

Are you telling us that people here in the 21st centurey should not be expected to rise above finger painting? For note-taking? We're not all characters from Idiocracy, thanks very much.

Business knows that it needs the stylus to make their fancy new i-devices useful, and all the big manufacturers are all stepping up to provide.

Jobs is dead, so now the world can undergo some much needed cult de-programming and actually 'think different' for real.

Re:4 inch is a piker...try the (4, Interesting)

Cyberllama (113628) | more than 2 years ago | (#38186322)

I suppose anytime you want to write something in your own handwriting or create some kind of art you do it by fingerpainting. After all, big fat sausage fingers are all you really need, right? Of course if you're like me, you get tired of washing paint off your fingers all day long and listening to bank tellers complain that they can't read the amount on your checks. That's why some crazy people are of the opinion that perhaps there are occasions when fingers aren't ideally suited to all the sorts of tasks you might want to perform on a piece of paper and/or a hand-held computing device based on a paper metaphor.

Old devices had styli because the screens were resistive and needed pressure to register touches. Since pressure is a function of force per area, a smaller area (tip of the stylus vs tip of the finger) needs less force applied in order to register touches. It was a necessity that capacitive screens did away with by making fingertips practical.

But just because they are no longer a necessity, doesn't mean they aren't actually still useful for some tasks. If you want to do artwork and or handwriting on a tablet, a stylus is still the best way to go. Just because a screen is capacitive like your iOS devices screen doesn't mean you can't use a stylus if and when it's the right tool for the job--you just need a capacitive stylus.

If you weren't of a mind to do any handwriting/art on your tablet/phone whatever, then simply don't ever use the stylus. Continue using your fingers and you'll enjoy the same user experience you would with any other device. Having the extra choice won't hurt you.

Re:4 inch is a piker...try the (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38186324)

A stylus doesn't mean you have to go back to capacitive screens, just gives consumer another method of entry if they want it. Not everyone likes fat fingering a virtual keyboard, and using your finger to jot down stuff would be subpar if you could just use a stylus.

So, in other words (0)

EmagGeek (574360) | more than 2 years ago | (#38185878)

The new iPhone still won't have as large a screen or be as usable as my Android phone, which is a true 4G LTE phone as opposed to Apple's latest and greatest, cutting edge 3G phone that was obsolete 6 months before it was released.

This isn't the phone you're looking for... you can go about your business... move along.

Re:So, in other words (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38185924)

Compensating much?

Hitachi Makes a Touch Screen That's Pressure Sensi (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38185918)

Hitachi promotes a touch screen that's pressure sensitive. Are we finally going to see an iOS device that uses a stylus for note taking?

I sure hope so. I've been waiting for years for such a device.

Re:Hitachi Makes a Touch Screen That's Pressure Se (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38186084)

Me as well...although I still think they can do it on the current hardware. But, a 4" writing tablet wouldn't be large enough, IMO. I'd love to see a purchased-separately stylus for the iPad 3. Don't see it happening, though.

Re:Hitachi Makes a Touch Screen That's Pressure Se (1)

Lord Maud'Dib (611577) | more than 2 years ago | (#38186282)

The device you are looking for is a Samsung Galaxy Note. I've been waiting for something like it ever since my Palm Vx passed away years ago ;(

Re:Hitachi Makes a Touch Screen That's Pressure Se (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38186194)

RE: Stylus

Will. Never. Happen.

Re:Hitachi Makes a Touch Screen That's Pressure Se (1)

Cyberllama (113628) | more than 2 years ago | (#38186284)

You can buy a capacitive stylus and it will work just fine if all you want it for is *note taking*. The only reason you need true pressure sensitivity is for art purposes--where you can control the thickness of a line, for instance, by how hard you press. There are any number of companies who are currently extremely eager to sell you a stylus for an iPad or iPad 2--just look for them and you'll find them.

The iPhone is over (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38185952)

If your phone can fit in here [goatse.ru], it's too small.

3.5" is too small (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38186032)

That's what she said.

Seriously, 1.5" of the iPhone size is the top and bottom border used for what? Something to grip while it's in landscape mode?

Not the Apple Way (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38186204)

Apple is all about a consistent user experience. Changing the screen size of the iPhone is going to cause a lot of trouble for people used to the iPhone keyboard at its current size. Also, Apple seems to be of the opinion "if you want a bigger screen, buy an iPad!"

bigger display means a bigger... (5, Interesting)

tyme (6621) | more than 2 years ago | (#38186238)

I tend to agree with John Gruber of Daring Fireball [daringfireball.net] that all of these rumors of larger screen iPhones are just bullshit, except for one detail: a larger screen would mean a larger phone body, which would allow for a larger battery, and would give even longer battery life. Battery life is the name of the game in mobile devices, and the larger display would give Apple an opportunity to get an additional leg up on their competition. It would also be helpful to have more battery capacity if they were upgrading the iPhone to 4G, which seems to need a lot more power.

While I tend to find Gruber's arguments about maintaining the dimensions of the UI by maintaining the dimensions and resolution of the display convincing, the change in dimensions of the iPhone interface going from a 3.5" to a 4" screen doesn't seem to be much of a concern. The greater concern is that the 4" screen is too large for many people to comfortably access the full screen with their thumb while holding the phone in the same hand (though that could be alleviated by narrowing the bezel around the screen).

So, while I'd love to bet against the rumor mongers clamoring for a 4" display on the next iPhone, I think that it might actually happen. A 4G phone will need a bigger battery, and I think Apple would rather make the phone face larger, than make the phone thicker, and that make a 4" display an easy sell.

IGZO doesn't sound very impressive to me (4, Interesting)

Cyberllama (113628) | more than 2 years ago | (#38186270)

""The IGZO technology is perfect in that it offers near-OLED power consumption while having a lower cost and thinness that is only 25% greater than OLED, based on our checks," said Jeffries analyst Peter Misek."

So let me get this right. It's 25% thicker than OLED and uses MORE power, but it costs less to make. On the face of it, that doesn't seem like a very Appley component choice. On the other hand, getting high quality (Super) AMOLED screens means dealing with Samsung, something which Apple doesn't seem to want to do at the moment for silly grudge purposes. So the question becomes, "Does Apple want to sacrifice product quality in exchange for a small savings and sticking it to Samsung?"

If Steve Jobs were still around, I'd say "Yes."--he had a well noted penchant for carrying a grudge to extremes. I'd like a bigger screen as much, or more than the next guy, but I'm not 100% sure how plausible this whole story seems to me in a post-Steve Apple era. On the other, other hand, it might have more to do with the fact that Samsung is too big to bully, and Apple likes to have total control over it's supply chains.

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