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World of Commodore 2011 December 3rd In Toronto

samzenpus posted more than 2 years ago | from the playing-it-old-school dept.

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Leif_Bloomquist writes "The Toronto PET Users Group (TPUG) is pleased to announce the World of Commodore 2011. TPUG would like to invite everyone to join us for a weekend of all things Commodore. There will be information about and displays of a variety of Commodore computers, demonstrations of new hardware and software projects using Commodore equipment, screenings of Commodore related videos, vendors selling the latest hardware and software available for Commodore computers as well as classic hardware, accessories, applications, games and much more."

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First Post (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38233274)

Get a real computer you cheap assholes.

Re:First Post (5, Insightful)

Jeremi (14640) | more than 2 years ago | (#38233324)

Get a real computer you cheap assholes.

People who still use Commodores in 2011 are many things, but cheap is not one of them. Keeping an antiquated computer running and doing useful work is going to cost them much more than buying a new low-end PC from Walmart would. (and that's not even counting the airfare to Toronto)

Re:First Post (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38233380)

World of Commodore... Held in Admiral Inn...

Someone has a sense of humor.

Re:First Post (1)

Ihmhi (1206036) | more than 2 years ago | (#38235170)

Geeks in general have a good sense of humor.

Re:First Post (1)

2fuf (993808) | more than 2 years ago | (#38236518)

YMMV

Re:First Post (4, Informative)

Ethanol-fueled (1125189) | more than 2 years ago | (#38233394)

The launch price of the original C64 adjusted for inflation is $1141.54. It sure wasn't cheap even back then, especially because many people were still using typewriters. The new C64 PCs range in price from $595 to $895, and the price-competitive Macs smoke them as far as specs go.

Of course, the smart ones will just take that money and build their own box, and have something capable of running the latest games.

Re:First Post (1)

BatGnat (1568391) | more than 2 years ago | (#38233702)

1541 Floppy drive was just as expensive as the computer. The 1571 was double the c64 price tag, but by default had no advantage over the 1541. And the 1581 never ever existed, according to CBM Australia.

Re:First Post (3, Informative)

beltsbear (2489652) | more than 2 years ago | (#38233828)

Actually the 1571 was double sided so 2x the capacity and much more reliable. The 1541 was single sided though people often notched and 'flipped' their disks to get the same capacity per disk. The 1581 did exist, I had one. They are on ebay as well.

Re:First Post (2)

sheehaje (240093) | more than 2 years ago | (#38234256)

Also, being double sided was more than a convienence, especially for BBS SysOps who couldn't just flip disks 24/7 but needed extra storage for file transfer sections or door games. While IBM PC's took over the BBS landscape early in the 90's, Commodore I remember being an early front runner in the 80's because of decent BBS software and ease of setting one up. It took BBS's from the mainframe systems and let home enthusiasts have some of the fun, or frustration depending how you look at it.

I really miss those days. Online was way more personal, because it was way more local being confined mostly to an area code.

Re:First Post (2)

LocalH (28506) | more than 2 years ago | (#38234588)

By default, the 1571 powers up in 1541 mode, so the GP was correct. Unless used with a C128 in C128 mode, you must manually set the drive to 1571 mode to access double-sided disks (the command to be sent to the command channel was "U0>M1"). Then you can format the disk and get 1328 blocks free instead of the standard 664. The drive must be in 1571 mode to access files on both sides, although AFAIK files physically stored on the front side of the disk will be accessible even in 1541 mode.

Re:First Post (2)

beltsbear (2489652) | more than 2 years ago | (#38234874)

You are nitpicking there. It is incorrect to say 'by default' the 1571 had no advantage over the 1541 because on a C64 it did not do double capacity without a command. If you had a 128, then it did do double capacity be default and on a C64 it could do it with a simple command. That also does not address the huge improvement in reliability that the 1571 had over the 1541, as well as speed advantages. The 1571 was intended for sale for the 128 but would work with other models like the c64.

Re:First Post (1)

Errtu76 (776778) | more than 2 years ago | (#38235448)

I even got a special 'clipper' to create the notch. They sold them right next to the drives even. And then we opened up the floppy, took out the grey disk and put five of 'm together in one, so you could send it through mail. Ah, those were the days. You could say we were uploading 5 x 360k in 2 days, which would comes down to about 10 bytes p/s! Without a modem!

Re:First Post (1)

FPhlyer (14433) | more than 2 years ago | (#38234622)

My 1541 was actually more expensive than the actual C64 when I got it back in the day.
Oh... and get your 1581 here: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Commodore-1581-Disk-Drive-tested-and-working-/190608048217?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c61200059

Re:First Post (1)

AlanS2002 (580378) | more than 2 years ago | (#38235900)

I had a floppy drive not made by commodore (can't remember the maker). It was cheaper and faster than the commodore ones.

Re:First Post (1)

jhalme (103458) | more than 2 years ago | (#38236114)

Oceanic OC-118N? [wikipedia.org]

Re:First Post (3, Informative)

FPhlyer (14433) | more than 2 years ago | (#38234608)

If you really, really, really need a retro keyboard you would be better off buying a non-functional Commodore 64 from ebay for about $20 or less with $15 shipping then purchasing a Keyrah board from amigakit.com for about $35 and turning the thing into a USB keyboard. Total cost: $70.00. Plug it into an existing machine and load one of the free C64 emulators (Frodo, Vice, etc.) and enjoy.

Re:First Post (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38233826)

you must be young, if this doesn't ring any nostalgia with you.

Anyways, I think it's really cool. It's just a club, to have fun, and friendship with like minded people.

I am not at the level of commitment of any of these folks, but i have all kinds of old computers, apples, commodores, and all kinds of other stuff. i like the feeling i get when i look at them.

This sounds like fun from their club:

- The Ultimate Modded Commodore 64C
Stereo sound, four joystick ports, joystick/mouse switcher, four selectable Kernals, reset switch, IDE, Compact Flash, 20GB hard drive, CD-ROM, USB, Ethernet, and uses a Commodore 128 power supply. But still runs at 1 MHz and has 64K RAM!

Re:First Post (-1)

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Re:First Post (1)

rubycodez (864176) | more than 2 years ago | (#38233338)

Indeed, curse the chiclet keyboard of the old models; and the video circuits destroyable by POKE 59458,62 on the newer.

Re:First Post IN THE FUTURE TENSE OF THE THOUGHT ! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38233374)

You are confused by Charles Chaplin and the IBM PC Jr. No C= had chicklet keys and none had a poke that did that. And it's not even Commodore. It ceased to exist before you were even born !!

Re:First Post IN THE FUTURE TENSE OF THE THOUGHT ! (1)

Osgeld (1900440) | more than 2 years ago | (#38233428)

the poke would kill newer PET machines, in the first revisions it would make text appear faster, in later models it funked up the line analog circuitry causing failure of the CRT.

Re:First Post IN THE FUTURE TENSE OF THE THOUGHT ! (3, Informative)

rubycodez (864176) | more than 2 years ago | (#38233484)

Let me help make your ignorant head a little more fact filled:
The Commodore PET 2001 article [wikipedia.org] which mentions its chiclet keyboard, pictured here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:PET_Keyboard.svg [wikipedia.org]


The "killer poke" for the Commodore PET later models:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killer_poke#The_Commodore_PET [wikipedia.org]

I was born before the IBM 360 was introduced, sonny boy.

Re:First Post IN THE FUTURE TENSE OF THE THOUGHT ! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38233498)

"Let me help make your ignorant head a little more fact filled"

Says the unrepentant Space Nutter who completely ignores reality when it conflicts with his space religion.

Re:First Post IN THE FUTURE TENSE OF THE THOUGHT ! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38234100)

Ah there's the trusty Nutter modding me -1 as soon as he can. If you lived on Mars, you couldn't mod me down as fast. Oh wait, you'll never live on Mars so it doesn't matter!

Re:First Post IN THE FUTURE TENSE OF THE THOUGHT ! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38236164)

Ahhhh the 360. . . .

DOS/360, DOS/VS, DOS/VSE, DOS/VSE SP. . . .Good times!

Bus and Tag, FEP's, Pams, Tams, midnight IPL's, Printer wiring, printer control tape, forms control buffers, JCL, Assembler,
PL1, RPG, Cobol, Printing thousands of pages of a core dump . . , DITTO

God, I miss the heavy metal!

Too bad there still isn't a single hardware/ OS platform that can parallel the reliability, ease of debugging, and speed.

Re:First Post IN THE FUTURE TENSE OF THE THOUGHT ! (1)

Warren416 (2436238) | more than 2 years ago | (#38233690)

The very first Commodore PET model did indeed have a "calculator" keyboard that is more like the PC Jr Chiclet keyboard, than like a regular typewriter keyboard. Warren

Re:First Post (1)

BobZee1 (1065450) | more than 2 years ago | (#38233350)

i love the sound of the 1541 drive spinnin that 5.25" floppy. ssic ssic ssic ssic :~)>

Re:First Post (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38233376)

Get a real personality you GEN Z freak.

Re:First Post (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38233398)

Get a real personality you GEN Z freak.

What's GEN Z? Never heard of it.

Is there any chance you might have meant gen Z?

Or is your shitty 1980s keyboard working like you'd expect it to?

Re:First Post (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38233446)

You understood what i meant, no need to be an anally-retentive pedantic product of Generation Z ;) buddy

Re:First Post (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38234556)

Fuck off, troll.

Demonstrations of new hardware? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38233356)

Commodore is really just about nostalgia now, please don't ruin that one thing we cherish.

Re:Demonstrations of new hardware? (2)

FPhlyer (14433) | more than 2 years ago | (#38234464)

Commodore is not just about nostalgia. A big part of the Commodore community is about seeing just how far you can push 8-bit technology. Ram Expansion Units (REUs) and other cartridges that expand the capabilities of the base machine are simply fun to play with. One of my personal favorites is the Turbo Chameleon cartridge that adds VGA-out, stereo and ethernet to the old C-64. The Chameleon can also be used in stand-alone mode as a FPGA system running c64 and Amiga 500 cores. A cheaper option is the MCC-216 which does not have the ability to act as a cartridge in an actual c64 but does allow the end user to run Amiga, c64, Apple II and Atari 2600 cores.
If you have an old Commodore lying around that no longer boots you might be interested in the Keyrah: a small board that fits inside the Commodore's case and allows you to use the old system as a USB keyboard. Great for emulators.
Check out www.amigakit.com for options!

Great timing! (2)

Osgeld (1900440) | more than 2 years ago | (#38233404)

That gives me a whole day to come up with transportation and hotel and move from the southern USA to Canada! (if I could afford to do such anyway)

Ok I get it if this is really your thing one would know about this months in advance but thanks for the ultra short notice.

Re:Great timing! (1)

Hartree (191324) | more than 2 years ago | (#38233988)

Wish I woulda known about this a while back. I'd have gotten a couple of geek friends together for a retrocomputer road trip.

But alas with age also comes needing to get time off approved, schedules matched up and arrangements made. No longer can we just say "Screw it, we're going." at 2 am the night before.

Re:Great timing! (1)

westlake (615356) | more than 2 years ago | (#38234324)

Ok I get it if this is really your thing one would know about this months in advance but thanks for the ultra short notice.

You might have Slashdot's snail-on-a-salt-lick editors to thank for that.

Re:Great timing! (1)

Osgeld (1900440) | more than 2 years ago | (#38234804)

it was just announced today

Wrong. (1)

CountBrass (590228) | more than 2 years ago | (#38235070)

It was announced on the 13th of October.

So the gp's comment about the snail-like qualities of /. editors is spot on.

Re:Wrong. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38236564)

Was there a time at which, even with Taco still here, news was indeed timely?

Theres always the Commodore Vegas Expo in July (1)

JoeCommodore (567479) | more than 2 years ago | (#38234648)

There's always the Commodore Vegas Expo [portcommodore.com] in July as well as several regional US and other world wide gatherings of Commodore and other classic computerists.

Closer to Canada would be the Emergency Chicagoland Commodore Convention [globalpc.net] (no listed 2012 date yet, There's one I think in Lousville KY in the spring, but cant find a link. And in the fall there's the AmiWest Expo [amiwest.net] in Sacramento for the Amigans out there.

(that's all I can recall off the top of my head.)

Are you serious? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38233450)

Some people really don't have anything useful to do or contribute to our society...
You've got to be really in "limbo" to even think about organizing an event like this. Not even talking about getting all excited at the thought of assisting that lame event.
HELLO! Grow up and do something productive you little nerds.

Re:Are you serious? (1)

Em Adespoton (792954) | more than 2 years ago | (#38233492)

For instance, I haven't seen a UNIVAC-CON announced in a while... maybe the vacuum tube costs got too prohibitive.

Re:Are you serious? (1)

Maljin Jolt (746064) | more than 2 years ago | (#38235152)

My Sperry-Univac U90/30 had no vacuum tubes inside, you insensitive clod. It was built out of TTL chips.

Re:Are you serious? (5, Insightful)

wierd_w (1375923) | more than 2 years ago | (#38233794)

Why do you equate "productive" with "grown up"?

This fallacy, that when you reach the age of accountability you suddenly must become a dour and sour minded automoton that spends all their time woring, is a very serious problem these days.

Really, what is so wrong with wanting to get together with a group of people that share similar interests, and just have some old fashioned, totally nonproductive fun?

Tell me, mr. "Grownup", what exactly does watching weekend football accomplish? What product gets produced? What's that you say? Nothing? Oh, I see... ok, how about having a beer with your friend? What does that accomplish? Oh? Nothing again? By your logic, you shouldn't do those things. Instead you should be spending all your time toiling in obscurity to produce a product... but for whom?

This is the reason why your post was modded down. Even FOSS developers are not slaves. The joy in creation for creation's sake is destroyed when people bitch, moan, and demand more free shit. Expecting "nerds" to do nothing but work so you can have neat toys you didn't work for, and telling them to grow up when they want to have some fun is perverse.

If somebody is in need of understanding reality, and growing up, I would say it is you sir. Everyone needs to simply have fun from time to time. Especially adults.

Re:Are you serious? (1)

idlehanz (1262698) | more than 2 years ago | (#38236348)

Getting older is mandatory. Growing up is optional. I have decided to never act my age.

Re:Are you serious? (2)

jeremyp (130771) | more than 2 years ago | (#38235292)

Some people really don't have anything useful to do or contribute to our society...

That is exactly what I thought, after reading your post.

She's a brick house (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38233456)

Do they have a special guest concert featuring The Commodores?

Re:She's a brick house (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38233758)

With a Holden Commodore show afterwards.?

Re:She's a brick house (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38234384)

I hope the organizers clarify what the event is about. There could be trouble if a crowd of rowdy middle aged folks wearing leather jackets, platform shoes and liberal doses of cologne/perfume shows up.

Why is this here? (-1, Flamebait)

whereissue (2522564) | more than 2 years ago | (#38233504)

this isn't news... does it matter or is this just a blatant plug that slipped through!? PS this is my first post!!

Re:Why is this here? (5, Insightful)

abigor (540274) | more than 2 years ago | (#38233544)

It qualifies as "news for nerds" in a big way. I think you're in the wrong place, sunshine.

Re:Why is this here? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38233956)

You know, every single article posted on slashdot includes posters who say "this doesn't belong here." This valueless contribution is usually modded down to oblivion very quickly, and with good reason.

Not only have you joined their ranks, with your very first post, but you choose one of the most clearly "news for nerds" articles you could find. I would be tempted to think you were trying to be ironic...but I don't see enough evidence of this.

Wow. That is really a first post to be proud of. Way to get things started.

**** COMMODORE 64 BASIC V2 **** (5, Funny)

olsmeister (1488789) | more than 2 years ago | (#38233508)

64K RAM SYSTEM 38911 BASIC BYTES FREE
READY.
10 PRINT "Hello, I'm the Commodore 64 - What is your name ";:INPUT A$
20 PRINT A$ "is stupid!"
30 GOTO 20

Re:**** COMMODORE 64 BASIC V2 **** (3, Funny)

Rockoon (1252108) | more than 2 years ago | (#38233608)

20 PRINT A$ "is stupid!"

?SYNTAX ERROR

Re:**** COMMODORE 64 BASIC V2 **** (1)

andrewa (18630) | more than 2 years ago | (#38233812)

Works fine....

Re:**** COMMODORE 64 BASIC V2 **** (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38234010)

*20 PRINT A$ "is stupid!"*
Should be:
20 Print A$ " is stupid!" - you forgot the space.

Re:**** COMMODORE 64 BASIC V2 **** (1)

Sleepy (4551) | more than 2 years ago | (#38234056)

I was going to post the same exact thing. It's not a syntax error, but the mistake still flew over everyone else's head.

Re:**** COMMODORE 64 BASIC V2 **** (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38235040)

This mistake is that it should be " is stupid" not "is stupid" Need a leading space.

Re:**** COMMODORE 64 BASIC V2 **** (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38234072)

*20 PRINT A$ "is stupid!"*
Should be:
20 Print A$ " is stupid!" - you forgot the space.

That wouldn't error out though.

Re:**** COMMODORE 64 BASIC V2 **** (1)

spongman (182339) | more than 2 years ago | (#38235488)

he's referring to english syntax. hence the funny.

Re:**** COMMODORE 64 BASIC V2 **** (1)

camperdave (969942) | more than 2 years ago | (#38235072)

Shouldn't there be a semicolon or comma or even a plus sign between the A$ and the " is stupid" part? Every BASIC I've ever used needed something there.

Re:**** COMMODORE 64 BASIC V2 **** (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38235122)

From the 4.0 manual http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=commodore%20basic&source=web&cd=8&ved=0CFEQFjAH&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.commodore.ca%2Fmanuals%2Fpdfs%2FCommodore_Basic_4_Users_Reference%2520Manual.pdf&ei=dHPYTrvvBaeWiAK5g_jHCg&usg=AFQjCNHYQokHvhY1FQG6LzCwiaHYLNJIdw&cad=rja

"The position of each printed item is determined by the punctuation used to separate the items on the list. ... A semicolon casues the next value to be printed immediately after the last value. Typing one or more spaces between expressions has the same effect as typing a semicolon."

The problem is in the output format detail: LET A$ = "John", PRINT A$ "is stupid!" > "Johnis stupid!"

Re:**** COMMODORE 64 BASIC V2 **** (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38235946)

40 ???
50 PROFIT!

FUCK YOU MODERATOR! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38233534)

Why the fuck am I getting a stupid "-1" score?
Am I playing something here?

Re:FUCK YOU MODERATOR! (1)

ThePeices (635180) | more than 2 years ago | (#38233730)

Because you swore at the moderator.

What? You think people like being sworn at?

*shakes head*

FUCK YOU ANONCOW (1)

Niscenus (267969) | more than 2 years ago | (#38234948)

I opted out of a free, "Don't knock my Karma," option to definitively identify the problem with people like you, and I'm pretty sure that problem has something to do with your misplaced love for Amiga or OS/2. Since you swore, maybe it's Windows related? Either way, fuck you, Dude.

All the best ... Not much of show (1)

Lieutenant_Dan (583843) | more than 2 years ago | (#38233622)

Kudos to them for organizing this, but this looks like an affair that could be held in a school's gym or a local legion. Half-dozen vendors and the same number of presentations.

I loved my c64 and even though i have the time to kill, i will most likely not cross the gta to make it to mississauga.

May have been better if this was a larger retro-computing thing ...

Last time I went to a Commodore show... (2)

BatGnat (1568391) | more than 2 years ago | (#38233718)

I was wearing a "Happy 1st Birthday OS/2 Warp" tee-shirt.

Gee, didn't I get some funny looks.

I Want To Go! (1)

echusarcana (832151) | more than 2 years ago | (#38233792)

Of the 7 or so working computers in my house right now, sitting right behind my new six-core workstation, is my Commodore PET 4032. It has not one but two 4040 double floppy disk drives. Sadly, the neither of the 4040 disks seem to work - the last one seems to have just died this year. I think there is a matching Commodore line printer around here too. Fortunately, the vast majority of my cassettes still work after lovingly been stored in a metal box for the last 20 years. I expect the cassettes (Canadian Tire brand worked best) will still be good for decades.
Now, If I can just convince my girlfriend we really should drive out to Mississauga on Saturday. Back in the 1980s she was selling CP/M machines so it is not an impossibility.

Re:I Want To Go! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38234300)

And you're about as "productive" with your 6 core machine today as you were with the PET. Proof? You work as many hours a week today as then.

Re:I Want To Go! (2)

FPhlyer (14433) | more than 2 years ago | (#38234516)

It's not how much time you spend... it's how much you can accomplish in the time you are given.

Re:I Want To Go! (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38234634)

Why is it that the work week went from 80 hours a week to 40 from the 19th century to the 20th century, but now that everyone is sooooo priductive, we still work 40 hours a week so we can spend 25 years paying for a house that took six weeks to build? What are we producing, for whose benefit, and why?

Re:I Want To Go! (1)

camperdave (969942) | more than 2 years ago | (#38235092)

Why is it that the work week went from 80 hours a week to 40 from the 19th century to the 20th century, but now that everyone is sooooo priductive, we still work 40 hours a week so we can spend 25 years paying for a house that took six weeks to build? What are we producing, for whose benefit, and why?

All explained here [youtube.com]

Re:I Want To Go! (1)

accessbob (962147) | more than 2 years ago | (#38234632)

See you there. I'll be the one wandering round looking for a PET I can play Star Trek or Civil War on... Bus route 13 from Clarkson Go station if she won't drive you there :D

Leaderboard FTW! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38233916)

What's the bet that Leaderboard C64 is running on one of the demos - still one of the finest games ever written for its day. What an awesome game.

Don't forget to Canadianize your C64 (3, Funny)

Lev13than (581686) | more than 2 years ago | (#38233984)

64K RAM SYSTEM 38911 BASIC BYTES FREE
READY.
10 POKE 52380,2
20 POKE 52381,1
30 PRINT "HELLO, HOSER"
RUN

Re:Don't forget to Canadianize your C64 (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38234190)

That should be 53280 and 53281 :)

Re:Don't forget to Canadianize your C64 (2)

FPhlyer (14433) | more than 2 years ago | (#38236134)

Those are the Canadian memory addresses. Just like Canadian Bacon... it's just wrong.

Re:Don't forget to Canadianize your C64 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38234422)

The fact that I still know exactly what that does, and what colors those poke values represent, almost brings a tear to my eye, literally. I pretty much owe my entire current way to life to the C64. If there was ever a product that deserved to succeed and carry on but didn't....sigh.

PS: Poke 646,0 would probably be a good idea too. ;)

Re:Don't forget to Canadianize your C64 (3, Informative)

LocalH (28506) | more than 2 years ago | (#38234708)

The fact that I still know exactly what that does, and what colors those poke values represent, almost brings a tear to my eye, literally. I pretty much owe my entire current way to life to the C64. If there was ever a product that deserved to succeed and carry on but didn't....sigh.

Commercially, the C64 was a huge success worldwide. According to Wikipedia [wikipedia.org] (and cited), the C64 is the best-selling single computer of all time. Here's a blog post with some heavy analysis of the numbers. [pagetable.com]

Re:Don't forget to Canadianize your C64 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38234730)

I guess I should have wrote "succeed in carrying on", that was closer to my meaning. The Amiga lost a lot of momentum, they really dropped the ball (hehe) on that one...

Ted

Re:Don't forget to Canadianize your C64 (1)

tsa (15680) | more than 2 years ago | (#38235312)

Yes, it could hardly do any better than it did. It sold very well for five years if I remember correctly. No electronic product launched today can match that.

Re:Don't forget to Canadianize your C64 (1)

Billlagr (931034) | more than 2 years ago | (#38234702)

SYS64738

I am so going (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38234140)

30 years ago.

Re:I am so going (1)

JoeCommodore (567479) | more than 2 years ago | (#38234558)

Back to the VIC-20 and PET age - as the Commodore 64 debut was in 1982.

Guru Meditation (2)

Joe_Dragon (2206452) | more than 2 years ago | (#38234216)

The red screen of death

Re:Guru Meditation (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38235224)

You mean the blinking red screen of dead

new specs (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38234424)

Has anyone bothered to see what the new specs of a commodore are?
http://www.commodoreusa.net/CUSA_C64.aspx

The best C64 POKE type-in (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38234502)

Oh the joy of going to the shop and running this type-in on their display Commodore 64s.... then sitting back and watching the fun.

10 POKE649,0
20 POKE808,234
20 SYS64767

Don't forget SYS (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38234506)

SYS 64738

Get ready to party! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38234672)

Get ready to party like its 1985!!! Seriously, I haven't started my Amiga 1000 since the death of Jay Miner. It was seriously wicked hardware in 1985, but years later I went to running PC's with faster clock speeds and OS/2. Then I started buying faster PC's and running Linux. I've gone all 64 bit multicore. Its like having the 68000 with the 3 co-processors, but with hyperthreading, And the graphics co-processor isn't one of them, its actually a complex of processors on the NVIDIA video card. Likewise the audio (now in the motherboard). I/O is done by the APIC, and where AmigaDOS was somewhat flaky, Linux is 7 9's stable at the worst of times, and 9 9's when you are careful. Amiga still holds fond memories though.

OMG! Memories of the Transactor!!! (1)

Obstin8 (827030) | more than 2 years ago | (#38234776)

And typing in all those freaking hex codes from Compute! Wonder what Jim Button is up to...

Re:OMG! Memories of the Transactor!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38234918)

Jim Button wrote PC-File...

Jim Butterfield passed away a few years back. :-(

Dazed & Confused (1)

kodiaktau (2351664) | more than 2 years ago | (#38234822)

Ubuntu installed [commodoreusa.net] on the boxes, but the sales pages are in ASPX? I loved my c64 and still have it in my workshop. Drive and tape loader are still in good shape, but haven't checked media in 10 years - probably all bad. The 1702 monitor was awesome and I used the display to hook to simple video editing on an old camcorder for a while. Not sure I would make a trek to go to this but sounds like it would be kind of fun.

Reset (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38234842)

SYS64738

you FAIL =it (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38234898)

being GAY N6IGGERS.

OMG! I didn't know TPUG was still around!!! (2)

BitterOak (537666) | more than 2 years ago | (#38235208)

The first computer games I ever played were TPUG tapes full of games for the Commodore PET computer. Years before the Commodore 64, I first learned programming on a Commodore PET model 2001 with 8K of RAM and a cassette tape drive built right into the unit. A few years later, all the schools in our area acquired PET 4032 computers for the computer science classes, and my dad, who was a teacher, used to bring one home for the holidays. I still remember how exciting it was when he brought home a Commodore 2031 disk drive for the first time, and I bought my first floppy disk. (Yes they were sold singly back then!) I fit the contents of all my old TPUG tapes on two floppies!

We had a local chapter in my home town of Windsor called PEG (for PET Educators Group), and I remember attending meetings regularly. One of the most exciting days of my childhood was when we had Jim Butterfield as a guest speaker! Sadly, I heard he passed away a few years ago.

I still remember fondly my days of playing Adventure, Miser, Miner, Space Invaders, Dungeon, and other games on the old PETs. I'm glad to hear TPUG is still around.

Call me SID (1)

ME-tan (995456) | more than 2 years ago | (#38235680)

So how do we get all these commodore user groups to persuade someone to start manufacturing 6582A SID chips again? I want to build an 8 SID Midibox without having to take out a mortgage...

I Still Use a 1541 II & a Disk Notcher (2)

bedouin (248624) | more than 2 years ago | (#38235982)

I have an E-Mu SP-12 Turbo [vintagesynth.com] sampler/drum machine that saves its data to a 1541 drive. It's my favorite sampler/sequencer and many other people's as well.

I have three 1541s in my basement as backups.

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