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DARPA Seeks App Developers For War App Store

samzenpus posted more than 2 years ago | from the check-out-the-free-section dept.

Software 174

MrSeb writes "DARPA has a problem on its hands: Satellites, unmanned drones (UAVs), and myriad other worldwide sensors are now so ubiquitous and omnipotent that the Department of Defense (DOD) doesn't actually know how to make the best use of them. In other words, the hardware is there, but the software isn't. To tackle this particularly tricky issue, DARPA is looking for smartphone app developers to help build 'sophisticated, adaptive applications.' Yes, DARPA wants to give smartphone developers access to the DOD's fleet of Hellfire missile-equipped UAVs. Instead of using a single, remote pilot to fly just one UAV, DARPA imagines 'an app [...] that allows a swarm of small deployed UAVs to be controlled as a single unit (a hive [mind] so to speak).' DARPA also wants app developers to help out with easy-to-use app interfaces, novel uses of smartphone-like sensors (accelerometers, cameras, gyros) — and ultimately, it wants to make a War Market where a soldier can simply log in with his DOD-issued smartphone or tablet and download Angry UAVs, Nuke Ninja, and other battlefield apps."

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Interesting problem (3, Insightful)

LucidBeast (601749) | more than 2 years ago | (#38298118)

but, somehow I wouldn't feel good when my code worked in this case

Re:Interesting problem (4, Insightful)

masternerdguy (2468142) | more than 2 years ago | (#38298146)

Imagine how good you'll feel when your code doesn't work and launches a cruise missile at Houston.

Re:Interesting problem (3, Funny)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 2 years ago | (#38298202)

Ehhh, Texas is a hard toss... I'm torn.. now if it messes up and aims for the MPAA or RIAA headquarters... Then I'll cheer it on. Or any bank main headquarters, nobody cries over spilt bankers.

Re:Interesting problem (1)

viperidaenz (2515578) | more than 2 years ago | (#38298246)

yes but have you ever tried cleaning up banker gibs?

Re:Interesting problem (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38298448)

you need the 2GB 580 gtx to render them.. all that sizzling liquid fat needs massive shader pipelines.

Re:Interesting problem (4, Funny)

FatdogHaiku (978357) | more than 2 years ago | (#38298916)

yes but have you ever tried cleaning up banker gibs?

You just sprinkle Holy Water on it and watch the sizzle...

Re:Interesting problem (1)

stealth_finger (1809752) | more than 2 years ago | (#38298472)

Ehhh, Texas is a hard toss... I'm torn.. now if it messes up and aims for the MPAA or RIAA headquarters... Then I'll cheer it on. Or any bank main headquarters, nobody cries over spilt bankers.

Ah, I must of put a comma instead of a period. I always mess up in some mundane way.....sorry guys.

Re:Interesting problem (4, Funny)

Archangel Michael (180766) | more than 2 years ago | (#38298542)

Periods are messy, but so are colons. oh we're talking punctuation here... never mind

Re:Interesting problem (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38299206)

"must of"

(*rolls eyes*)

Re:Interesting problem (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38298528)

Whats in Houston that you hate, NASA?

Re:Interesting problem (1)

cultiv8 (1660093) | more than 2 years ago | (#38298888)

Thays called an easter egg.

Re:Interesting problem (1)

Nethemas the Great (909900) | more than 2 years ago | (#38299278)

Now see, here we have a problem... Given the filth that have come from that place I honestly cannot tell which way you're going with that. The mods think you're insightful but even that could be for reasons that go either way and I find that very disturbing. If this was the goal then well done. If not, then next time please choose another target. Depending on which way you want to go, K Street or Boise, ID for instance...

Re:Interesting problem (1)

Infernal Device (865066) | more than 2 years ago | (#38299436)

Ever been to Houston? A cruise missile would improve the place.

Re:Interesting problem (5, Insightful)

lightknight (213164) | more than 2 years ago | (#38298412)

Agreed. While the prospect of various enemies overrunning my country is not lost on me, my analytical skills are pointing to a bigger threat within my country than without: namely that the military / security people have gone AWOL, and constitute a bigger threat to the populace than their named greatest enemies.

I don't like the police getting TANKS for internal use, Special Weapons and Tactics for unpaid parking tickets, and Intelligence Agencies running operations inside the country. Writing programs for these people sounds like handing people the very gun they will shoot me with. I've seen enough idealism and irony with the Thin Thread program, where an aloof mathematician couldn't conceive of the possibility of his program being used against the general populace for some below-board practices.

We'll talk about getting your soldiers some nice apps when I stop feeling ashamed about discussing my country with citizens from its allies.

*shakes head*

Something like that...

Re:Interesting problem (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38298576)

It's also a rather sad commentary on R&D investment and innovation that so much of it is in the military rather than elsewhere. There seems to be no end of government money for military uses whereas money for research on ordinary science and business uses get cut back endlessly.

Re:Interesting problem (4, Insightful)

cavreader (1903280) | more than 2 years ago | (#38298880)

The vast majority of technology today was developed by the military. Looking down the wrong end of a gun tends motivate research and innovation. The Internet started as a DARPA project. Computer technology, rockets, satellites, nuclear based applications, wireless communication systems, and EM manipulation benefit from the military. The miltary is also invested in creating alternative energy technology. There are military bases in Afghanistan that are using solar power in their bases. Maintaining reliable energy is a major vulnerability for any military. So a great deal of the military budget is used for developing or enhancing new technologies. The military R&D efforts also provide a lot of domestic civilian jobs. The government does not rely on China or any other foreign country to produce their weapon systems. If the military just stops fucking around in the middle east it would lower the operational costs and even more money could be directed towards R&D.

Broken Window Fallacy (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38299344)

We could have developed all of those things without military objectives. But it is easier to justify the costs to the public if you claim it is for national security -- in much the same way as "protecting the children" is used to justify censorship and Internet surveillance.

Re:Interesting problem (3, Insightful)

lightknight (213164) | more than 2 years ago | (#38298926)

It's a sad commentary on our handling of various situations in this world such that we require such a large investment in military expenditures to keep our country safe. I'm not saying that we need to be that most popular guy / girl in our worldwide high-school, nor that we need to sacrifice our principles; what I'm saying is that we seem to be accumulating more enemies with greater strengths than warrants common sense.

A fool fights a war on two fronts, the heir to the kingdom of fools fights a war on twelve fronts.

Re:Interesting problem (1)

DarwinSurvivor (1752106) | more than 2 years ago | (#38298582)

Writing programs for these people sounds like handing people the very gun they will shoot me with.

Wait until they realize they had the enemy design their weapons. "That's strange, I can't seem to target anyone wearing a blue shirt with green pants. Stranger yet, this entire mob of angry geeks appear to be wearing just that."

Re:Interesting problem (2)

lightknight (213164) | more than 2 years ago | (#38298742)

Funny, but not a situation I'd prefer to end up in. I have better ways to waste my time than play who has the bigger penis with the military (I do, sorry guys).

Re:Interesting problem (1)

kelemvor4 (1980226) | more than 2 years ago | (#38298654)

when I stop feeling ashamed about discussing my country with citizens from its allies.

Man, that is exactly how I feel lately...

Re:Interesting problem (3, Interesting)

lightknight (213164) | more than 2 years ago | (#38298890)

Anyone else in favor of a constitutional amendment for a "no confidence vote," where the public can hold a referendum at will to dissolve our currently elected officials of their offices, ban them for life from ever holding another position (municipal, state, federal, etc.), and hold general elections for their replacements?

 

Re:Interesting problem (1)

cavreader (1903280) | more than 2 years ago | (#38298892)

What allies?

Re:Interesting problem (1)

lightknight (213164) | more than 2 years ago | (#38298940)

NATO, usually.

Re:Interesting problem (1)

c0lo (1497653) | more than 2 years ago | (#38298696)

but, somehow I wouldn't feel good when my code worked in this case

Would you feel better if your code wouldn't work (e.g. have some bugs or something) but would still be used?

Re:Interesting problem (1)

blankyash (2526984) | more than 2 years ago | (#38298802)

but, somehow I wouldn't feel good when my code worked in this case

I too would not feel good

Re:Interesting problem (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38299004)

You wussy, you won't not part of the NewWorldOrder(c) with such an attitude!
If you start doubting about things like 911 being an CIA/Mossad inside job ordered by narcissistic globalists in an attempt to enslave Americans unconsciously,
you probably won't be able to write any good piece of software that will do the job.
The President should ban you from Slashdot and kick you off the internet because this attitude is a terror threat to other Slashdotters.

Awesome (-1, Troll)

dev383 (2526944) | more than 2 years ago | (#38298120)

More information on this can be found here [evenweb.com]

First War App (4, Funny)

ExploHD (888637) | more than 2 years ago | (#38298124)

The first app in the War Store will probably be Angry Birds
Training first!

Re:First War App (1)

lightknight (213164) | more than 2 years ago | (#38298950)

Mafia Wars. It must be Mafia Wars.

Or some sort of porn app, that automatically downloads new material in the background according to your preferences.

m0d d0wn (-1, Offtopic)

asshole3343 (2526948) | more than 2 years ago | (#38298138)

We are the slashdot trolls, my friend.
And we keep on trolling till the end.
We piss on the slashdot,
We post the goatse [goatse.ru] posts,
No time for lusers (Linux users), 'cause we troll slashdot.

Awesome (-1, Troll)

dev389 (2526952) | more than 2 years ago | (#38298156)

More information on this can be found here [evenweb.com]

Re:Awesome (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38298194)

Goatse

Industrial war complex? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38298166)

In my America? It's more likely than you think.

Re:Industrial war complex? (5, Funny)

Ethanol-fueled (1125189) | more than 2 years ago | (#38298264)

All of you fuckers laughed at me and modded me down when I told you that Metal Gear Solid 4 was a documentary and not a video game.

Re:Industrial war complex? (1)

lightknight (213164) | more than 2 years ago | (#38298486)

They don't have a battery to power those things yet, and probably never will.

I think scientists, the smarter ones, learned from the Manhattan Project and its outcome, and are subconsciously stalling from finding that particular advance. No one wants to be responsible for WWIII, even if we can "win it."

And to be honest, having read up on the research regarding the human genome, we're doomed as a species if we have another world war or implement any sort of attempt to reduce global population. It's only our explosive growth that has kept the human genome from degrading into something truly horrible. A consequence of various plagues and earlier wars, I'm afraid.

Tick tock, goes the clock, until the human race runs out of time.

Let the H1_B visas and outsourcing begin ! (1)

NemoinSpace (1118137) | more than 2 years ago | (#38298174)

sigh.

Bombing? There's an app for that... (5, Funny)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 2 years ago | (#38298178)

Bomb the lead car lite... A great new ad supported Drone app that will automatically bomb the lead car in any convoy you point it at. Unobtrusive ad's and a limit of 2 convoy bombing per day. Upgrade to the full pro app today for only $29.99!

Re:Bombing? There's an app for that... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38298678)

You're clearly new to government contracting... that 29.99 should be followed by the word 'billion'

Re:Bombing? There's an app for that... (1)

game kid (805301) | more than 2 years ago | (#38298800)

Oh, come on. His post's good enough for government work.

Re:Bombing? There's an app for that... (1)

colinrichardday (768814) | more than 2 years ago | (#38299210)

Government work, yes. Xe, no. That's Xe the former Blackwater, not xenon.

What a worthy cause (3)

musth (901919) | more than 2 years ago | (#38298204)

Go for it, amoral developers of the world, willing to work for anyone that delivers your required amount of $$$.

Re:What a worthy cause (4, Insightful)

Frangible (881728) | more than 2 years ago | (#38298484)

As you use DARPA's "amoral" creations like GPS, the internet, and Siri. Remember, every time you use satellite navigation, you support the military-industrial complex! Of course, you can also use GLONASS now simultaneously with the same receiver (on newer models), so you can support the American and Russian military-industrial complexes at the same time. Where does THAT bumper sticker go on your Prius?

Re:What a worthy cause (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38298922)

Yeah, because that's the exact same thing as specifically developing tools for them to use in wars.

I mean, if someone developed a tool that the military used, that isn't the same thing as developing a tool specifically for the military. Nor is it the same thing as using a tool that was, in the past, developed for the military.

Bad, bad analogy.

Re:What a worthy cause (2)

lightknight (213164) | more than 2 years ago | (#38298502)

That's another sticking point. They won't pay nearly enough to attract the kinds of talent they might want, and the kinds of talent they want do not, from a longevity standpoint, want to work for them.

Re:What a worthy cause (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38299094)

You'd be surprised what some people are willing to do for bragging rights alone.

Awesome (-1, Offtopic)

dev390 (2526954) | more than 2 years ago | (#38298210)

More information on this can be found here [evenweb.com]

Re:Awesome (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38298234)

How about ANOTHER goatse link, fucktard?

Re:Awesome (1)

dev391 (2526960) | more than 2 years ago | (#38298294)

U mad?

Re:Awesome (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38298578)

yeah. You gay? You sure like looking at gaped assholes.

Re:Awesome (0)

dev391 (2526960) | more than 2 years ago | (#38298844)

If you are mad, then shut up.

Yeah, don't have any trouble if you call me gay, or asshole, or dick, or cunt, or pie of shit, or whatever.

Thanks for the food :-)

Funny:
"You gay? You sure like looking at gaped assholes."
"How about ANOTHER goatse link, fucktard?"
"posted by a chump with a mind smaller than his asshole"
"You are an idiot and a disgusting pig, God I wish you could be banned for pulling crap like that."
"Goatse! Damn, I have not been goatsed in YEARS :("
"Grow up, retard; the goatse shit is old - much older than you'll ever be."
"Yeah, thanks for the goatse at work..."
"You Asshat. You know, some of us read ./ at the office. Please don't post obscene links."
"OMG! What is that man trying to do? Catch a football?!"
"I read your comment a second too late. It took me years to get that image out of my head, and now it is back !!!"
"that AEONITY.COM link is NSFW dammit"
"Whoever modded this up should be banned..."
"Thanks for the Goatse."
"Congratulations, you just ruined my day!"

"What an ass. Warning: Unpleasant picture in the link. That's what I get for browsing at 1, I guess."
"I'm just curious what gratification you get from this... do you jerk off to your hit counter?"
"O neat, you quoted me! Now I have to ask, why do you do this? seriously whats the motivation?"
"1999 called they want their overused shock pictures back."
"Parent post is a goatsex picture. Do not follow. You're an asshole of the proportions in that picture."
"Link above is to goatse. Fuck you douchebag."
"Turn on TinyUrl previews. It saves lives."
"Ugh. Goatse. NSFW. Asshole (poster and picture, both)."
"Seriously ... new account to post that ... what a douche!"
"You're a fucking douchbag." - "That is the most accurate comment yet"
"Not gonna click it to find out, but I'd be surprised if parent's link wasn't goatse... It appears you would be correct sir. Why oh why do I always forget..."
"My word, what is wrong with your anus? I'd get that checked out."
"It's because of Assholes like you that I can no longer trust URL shorteners"
"Thanks, I'm reading slashdot in class like a good student and just got tubgirl'd."
"Watching second monitor, there was something wrong with the other screen. Control + w. Phew..."
"Hey family! Come look! They're opening the Google Talk client! Now, click here......" (sees goatse)
"I tried to post warnings about the goaste loving jerk yesterday but was modded into oblivion as a karma whore"
"Posting your picture online again?", "Really? Are you not tired of this yet?"
(Me posts goatse link and tells that it is SFW): "You mean NSFW asshole."
"Can you not afford normal entertainment?" "This is grown up talk, 4chan is that way ->"
"Oops. goatse link" - "The AC speaks truth! (Well I didn't let it finish loading, but the browser was connecting to goatse.ru...)"
"He likes his urinal cakes nice and sudsy, so he tries to piss us off."
"Link is Goatse" - "Thanks. Does nerd soccer attract nerd hooligans?"
"You must be really bored, eh? Take your shit somewhere else. We don't serve your kind around here."

Hate:
"You are a homo. Stop it"
"Die Goatse motherfucker"
"Motherfucker. Some of us are at work and don't want to have a drilled out anus pop up on their fucking screen. Christ."
"BAN HIM!" "Ur a faggot for posting that."
"Death to all assholes - Let's put you first into the guillotine"
"You fucker" - "I had the same thought as you. What a fucking asshole. The link is nsfw."
"I hate your guts.", "WTF you fucking asshole.", "Fucking troll, do not click there"
"I hope you die in a fire before you are old enough to contaminate the gene pool."
"It would be more interesting if I had a piece of pipe and your face, in close proximity so I could smash your face beyond recognition,"
"Bravo teeny bopper. You're a really mature mother fucker (or do you prefer father fucking? Damn you homo erotic shittter)."
"Wait! I think I hear your mommy calling to give your tongue a good soap washing. And maybe she'll execute you too"
"I did not even bother to look, but this same idiot has been doing this for weeks now. Fuck off asshole."
"Asshole. literally. Goatse is so old. Grow up you fool."
"Asshole... Ginormous asshole, in fact." "Ugh. Goatse. You asshole."
"Better than you, you arse bandit." "You're a lowlife faggot piece of shit."
"Ah, a sheep troll. "Baaa! I post disgusting photos! Baaa!"
"I hate you"

"First time testemonies:
"As a warning to all, the link in the above post is disgusting and shocking. It pretty much ruined my day."
"Wow, all these years I managed to avoid seeing the goatse.cx guy, priding myself on my resilience to clicking on random image links from friends and trolls alike, taking comfort in the fact that I could identify a shock JPG based on a few lines of pixels while the holding the clipped window at the edge of my screen, and yet... now it's all for naught."

"After all these years, I finally fell for it. Just off to bleach my eyes.. thanks for that."
"Damnit, mod this guy up before GP gets any one else. My eyes, dear god my eyes, I'd managed not to see that until today!"
"WARNING: Don't click on the parent's link! Damn goatse! The first I experienced, no less.
"Parent is goatse. Dammit, and I've avoided it for a decade."
"ALERT ! goatse ya got me :("
"The fuck is a goatse? it's some dude pulling his arse open."

Testimonies:
"To late... and the captcha word was "wisdom".."
"Well done. I haven't been suckered into a goatse link in years."
"Now *that* is how you goatse. Even got me, and I'm an oldfag."
"Long time since I've been rickrolled with goatse!"
"Goatse URL - Haven't seen that guy in a while"
"Damnit! nearly 15 years reading /. and I still fall in a goatse.cx trap !"
"Well played, sir. It's been a while since I've been Goatse'd"
"Congrats. It's been a long time since I saw goatse."
"Looks very open to me... (congrats, 'twas a while ago I was goatsed the last time)"

Strong emotion:
"Son of a..."
FuCK YOU! YOU AsHOLE DICKHEAD! YOU WILL BUrN IN Hell for your cRIMES! AUUGH! IT BURNS! FUCK YOU!
""No ads? Kwel!" click... "WTF!! My eyes!!!! rip.... them.... OFF!!"
"FUCK.YOU.ASS.HOLE."
"i WAS eating lunch you ass!"
"Oh dear god my eyes. Haven't seen THAT awful image in a while."
"My eyes are burning... argh! Damn you!"
"MY EYES... dude i am at work here "S "
"Oh goddammit. I didn't need that right before bed."
"Goatse warning! I'm still recovering."
"Please friends, I beg of you, do not click that link! Do not look at that image, whatever you do! It is a bad image! It is a goatse image."
"Man you made me barf .... disgusting little fellow the GOATSE Guy"
"Ok I did not need to see this. kindly please go die in a fire."

Dumbassess talking:
"Again with the goatse? We get it guy, you're edgy and cool because you're ten years late to a meme."
"Oh wow, retro-trolling. Soon we'll be back to page-widening, Steven King is dead and bell bottoms."
"Hey moron, try using different links."
"You fucking piece of shit!" , "You sorry piece of shit.", "You cunt.", "Fuck you." "Get fucked"
"What a retard..... enough said...." "Nice. Asshole."
"Yup, this is what your life amounted to. Posting goatse on Slashdot and collecting comment trophies."

Frustration:
"Fuck you, you fucking fuck"
"Enough of that you sick fuck"
"Can someone make a fucking goatse blocker firefox plugin please? This is pissing me off now."
"I am sick and tired of that crap on /. "
"Don't visit the link above, everyone. -sigh- Especially at work."
"Doh! One has to also recognize data urls. *sigh*"
"Damn! Mod this fucker to hell"
"*sigh* Goatse alert..."

Philosophy:
"Wow, that looks like a pretty well-hidden goatse. I have still yet to fall for one of those on /. but I know that it's only a matter of time..."
"Who the hell still falls for this? I just assume any link in the comments is to goatse..."
"Anyone who clicks on these deserves it. Lazy fucker's using a URL that trolls have been using for at least a year now."
"Persistent little goatse fan aren't you?"
"Christ, I hate to think about what kind of disturbing, depraved images you've seen that would make you jaded enough not to be repulsed by goatse! Sicko."
"What the fuck is wrong with you? Did your mother drop you on your head, or are you just a fucking mental case by default? Grow up you infantile halfwit."
"When did you people stop being content with a simple rickroll? This is why Slashdot needs a "delete for spam" option."
"Goatse trolls are getting better these days..."
"Why the sudden coordinated campaign for Goatse? Is someone making money off this?"
"You're right, this is the most coordinated troll campaign in a long time. Multiple accounts, multiple pages."
"Urgh...dammit, am I the only one thinking the goatse trolls are getting worse lately than they have been in the past five years?"
"Who found a way to monetize goatse at this late date? If we got half the effort of that campaign on real stuff we'd all have better software by now."
"Boy Goatsex is out in force today... - Every topic is littered with them..."
"You can't actually expect the Slashdot users to actually know enough not to respond to a goatse troll, right ?"
"Can we start banning people who post that hiding it behind a url shortening link like goo.gl?"
"How many times are you going to spam this link? Like we don't know where that goes......"
"The GP's post is just to get you to click a link with the Goatse man's picture on it."
"One of these days, this asshole gonna have a hard drive crash and lose his precious list, consigning his life's work to oblivion. He'll probably kill himself."

Admiration:
"Cool goatse link bro"
"Giggles. That made my day. Thank you."
"You are one dedicated troll."
"Well played, sir. Well played."
"A link that redirects to a page containing goatse? How clever of you!"
"Thank you for that informational link"
"Interesting use of Data URLs for Goatse linking."
"Nice Goatse dude"
"Good one, Sir."
"Nice link to have!"
"But I found those that first link very informative however"
GOATSE - Yes, well done. Haven't fallen for one of those in years (though I did have some suspicions before clicking).
"Goatse is getting old but I still appreciate it. Thanks for making me smile at work."

Funny warnings:
"Don't even think of clicking.. goatse alert. Way to get me fired, bro"
"That links to goatse. Don't click! If you actually want to see what it looks like, check out the blog post."
"Asshole! DON'T CLICK!"
"Yeah don't click that. link... ever."
"DO NOT CLICK - goatse" - "Too late :/ "
"Why the fuck would you post something like that? Warning to all: scatology in its worst form. Do not look."
"Would advise against clicking the link in the troll post above. Especially if you're at work atm."
"Link Warning!!! Not for those at work or of a nervous disposition, or even those bored with the stupid Goatse image."
"You really don't want to click the fundamental link, you'll be scarred for life."
"Above Link NSFW... The picture was just wrong... wrong..."
"WARNING! Above link is not something anyone wants to see!"
"Parent should be modded down. Link is NSFW and mentally scarring."
"High likelyhood of being a Goatse link. Proceed with caution"
"Didn't click it, but the magic 8-ball says goatse."
"Danger, goatse" "Don't click the link! Goatse wannabe."
"Someone please mod this guy down... Don't click his link."
"I dunno if this is supposed to be goatse or what, but clicker beware on parent."
"Don't click link, Its a trap" - "Get an ax!"

Misc:
"My habit of opening new pages in tabs that don't focus immediately has saved me this time. Thanks for the warning!"
"MODS please ban this guy"
"What the hell is up with this guy? can somebody gag him or something please"
"Just post the damn url, i'm not going to click on a tinyurl link and get goatse'd or something.."
"That's somewhat clever, but some of us do know what base-64 encoding is."
"Could not someone at slashdot write a small script to blacklist url's that have been flagged troll? I'll do it if you pay me a slave wage..."
"Mod to -1, please. this guy is an 'asshole'.... (yes, you guessed it)"
"That link is goatse-esque. Yuck."

Great, (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38298232)

what could possibly go wrong!

Re:Great, (3, Insightful)

c0lo (1497653) | more than 2 years ago | (#38298552)

what could possibly go wrong!

TFS:

...'sophisticated, adaptive applications.'... that allows a swarm of small deployed UAVs to be controlled...with easy-to-use app interfaces

Requirements lead to the need of a lot of "intelligence" be moved inside the app.

Meaning:
1. DARPA is scrapping the barrel for intelligent human operators (to pilot the UAV-es)
2. DARPA is naive enough to trust complex software be bug free and secure
3. both of the above

A bonus if the DARPA's choice for the OS platform is MS Windows.

A huge bonus if the resulted app is so sophisticated and easy-to-use that it can be operated directly by GWB, Obama, Michelle Bachman or... hang on... Vermin Supreme of Rockport, Mass. - without UAV-jockeys in between.

Stop the press... (1)

Turnerj (2478588) | more than 2 years ago | (#38298250)

...DARPA has a problem!

Awesome (-1, Offtopic)

dev391 (2526960) | more than 2 years ago | (#38298256)

More information on this can be found here [evenweb.com]

Finally! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38298266)

iWar

Re:Finally! (1)

theshowmecanuck (703852) | more than 2 years ago | (#38298554)

controlled as a single unit (a hive [mind] so to speak).'

Too bad they didn't talk to Steve Jobs before he died, I'm sure he could have given them some ideas.

Oops I just lost my phone (3, Funny)

youn (1516637) | more than 2 years ago | (#38298284)

what coul possibly go wrong? :)

How much is the dev kit? :) (1)

Assmasher (456699) | more than 2 years ago | (#38298286)

What do I need to run the simulator too? Lol... DARPA, they rock because they do crazy sh** all the time and sometimes it works out great.

Better stay away from xcode (4, Interesting)

zill (1690130) | more than 2 years ago | (#38298296)

I know this is just legal boilerplate, but it makes my laugh every time a military–industrial complex related story comes up:

SOFTWARE LICENSE AGREEMENT FOR XCODE
8. Export Control... You also agree that you will not use the Developer Software for any purposes prohibited by United States law, including, without limitation, the development, design, manufacture or production of missiles, nuclear, chemical or biological weapons.

Re:Better stay away from xcode (1)

lightknight (213164) | more than 2 years ago | (#38298988)

What about weapons that aren't on that list? ;-)

Re:Better stay away from xcode (1)

zill (1690130) | more than 2 years ago | (#38299096)

including, without limitation,

iANAL, but I think "including, without limitation" means "specifically the following list of things, but also generally applies to everything not specifically listed.".

Re:Better stay away from xcode (1)

colinrichardday (768814) | more than 2 years ago | (#38299254)

Nice, but if you use it to destroy the US, who's going to sue you?

Re:Better stay away from xcode (2)

zill (1690130) | more than 2 years ago | (#38299298)

I'm pretty sure Apple lawyers can survive a WMD attack. I've heard... stories.

the software already exists (1)

wdebruij (239038) | more than 2 years ago | (#38298298)

Just hook all that hardware up to the C&C generals [wikipedia.org] engine.

This also offers an easy downgrade path [mobygames.com] in case geopolitics change again.

A hive mind? To control drones? (1)

GoodNewsJimDotCom (2244874) | more than 2 years ago | (#38298300)

I got this one : Spawn more overlords.

Re:A hive mind? To control drones? (1)

mkiwi (585287) | more than 2 years ago | (#38298346)

We require more minerals!

It must be a sign of my age... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38298320)

...that I remember when we wanted applications to be simple, yet powerful...complicated usually meant broken...now it's all the rage...kids these days

Hundreds of Military grade... (1)

s0litaire (1205168) | more than 2 years ago | (#38298354)

... fart apps in 3...2...1...
^_^

Re:Hundreds of Military grade... (2)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 2 years ago | (#38298478)

biological Gas is banned by the Geneva convention. Sorry, no fart apps...

Re:Hundreds of Military grade... (1)

colinrichardday (768814) | more than 2 years ago | (#38299274)

Methane (with a proper odorant) isn't banned. What if the sheer explosiveness of the fart is military grade?

Re:Hundreds of Military grade... (1)

colinrichardday (768814) | more than 2 years ago | (#38299276)

Or you could light such a methane fart. Should be a decent flamethrower.

Obligatory ... (0)

jasonmanley (921037) | more than 2 years ago | (#38298374)

Say I'm working at the DARPA, and somebody puts a code on my desk, somethin' no one else can break. Maybe I take a shot at it and maybe I break it. And I'm real happy with myself, cus' I did my job well. But maybe that code was the location of some rebel army in... ...North Africa or the Middle East and once they have that location, they bomb the village where the rebels are hiding... Fifteen hundred people that I never met, never had no problem with get killed. Now the politicians are sayin', "Oh, Send in the marines to secure the area" cus' they don't give a shit. It won't be their kid over there, gettin' shot. Just like it wasn't them when their number got called, cus' they were off pullin' a tour in the National Guard. It'll be some kid from Southie over there takin' shrapnel in the ass. He comes back to find that the plant he used to work at got exported to the country he just got back from. And the guy who put the shrapnel in his ass got his old job, cus' he'll work for fifteen cents a day and no bathroom breaks. Meanwhile he realizes the only reason he was over there in the first place was so that we could install a government that would sell us oil at a good price. And of course the oil companies used the little skirmish over there to scare up domestic oil prices. A cute little ancillary benefit for them but it ain't helping my buddy at two-fifty a gallon. They're takin' their sweet time bringin' the oil back, of course, maybe even took the liberty of hiring an alcoholic skipper who likes to drink martinis and fuckin' play slalom with the icebergs, it ain't too long 'til he hits one, spills the oil and kills all the sea life in the North Atlantic. So now my buddy's out of work. He can't afford to drive, so he's walking to the fuckin' job interviews, which sucks because the shrapnel in his ass is givin' him chronic hemorrhoids. And meanwhile he's starvin' cus' every time he tries to get a bite to eat the only blue plate special they're servin' is North Atlantic scrod with Quaker State. So what did I think? I'm holdin' out for somethin' better. I figure fuck it, while I'm at it why not just shoot my buddy, take his job, give it to his sworn enemy, hike up gas prices, bomb a village, club a baby seal, hit the hash pipe and join the National Guard? I could be elected President.

Re:Obligatory ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38298972)

I'm pretty sure this is copypasta, but I don't think you know what DARPA does.

Re:Obligatory ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38299272)

It's from "Good Will Hunting" and it's a monologue about the dilemma's presented by having the intelligence to see the potential consequences of your actions.

Frankly, I don't think this level of foresight is limited to child prodigies, but more logical minds tend to be less clouded by emotion & desire, which has the impact of making them less susceptible to justifications like the following:

"If you're worried about the ethics of doing this, here are some suggestions to help you cope:

My family comes first
I'm not responsible for how things are used
I'm not the only one on this project
If I don't do it, someone else will
One person won't have an effect
Only the good guys will use them
They'll never be used on innocent civilians
They'll never be used on Americans
This will protect my country and make it strong
I trust my government
Pick one or more that helps ease your mind."

Maybe "less rational" minds have the right idea. Selfish disregard for the good of society as a whole shoots down fewer career paths, & pays much better.

Moral hang ups are for people who think recycling glass bottles forgives having 6 children. Moral Accounting is for people who hate money. Evolution has a cure for the latter, and it may be the very downward pressure discouraging higher IQs from proliferating.

Smart enough to feed yourself & survive childhood, dumb enough to reproduce. The fate of human DNA depends on you.

Re:Obligatory ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38299250)

Ah....Good Will Hunting...Classic.

Army needs help with Spec Ops Mission! (5, Funny)

josteos (455905) | more than 2 years ago | (#38298386)

Join MILville today and get 25 free Drone Credits!

One star (3, Funny)

XahXhaX (730306) | more than 2 years ago | (#38298416)

Did not kill the terrorists. Didn't win the war. Crashed twice on startup.
Fix the crashes and maybe I'll give it five stars.

Killing 1.5 Million Iraqi's... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38298426)

...only on Die-Phone 4

New App (3, Informative)

cyachallenge (2521604) | more than 2 years ago | (#38298458)

"Let's play Global Thermonuclear War"

Re:New App (2)

lightknight (213164) | more than 2 years ago | (#38299032)

I have a better, more challenging game: "Get your honest politician elected."

You must somehow keep your chosen champion from making any false promises or accepting lobbyist donations while running a clean campaign. Comes with three (gradually increasing) levels of difficulty: Municipal (easiest), State, and Federal (hardest).

idea (1)

roman_mir (125474) | more than 2 years ago | (#38298460)

I have an idea - do more iPhones, less weapons.

Finally! (2)

lcllam (714572) | more than 2 years ago | (#38298558)

The years spent playing Starcraft will pay off!!! OTOH, the Koreans will take over the world.

Programmer ethics (3, Insightful)

Okian Warrior (537106) | more than 2 years ago | (#38298610)

If you're worried about the ethics of doing this, here are some suggestions to help you cope:

  • My family comes first
  • I'm not responsible for how things are used
  • I'm not the only one on this project
  • If I don't do it, someone else will
  • One person won't have an effect
  • Only the good guys will use them
  • They'll never be used on innocent civilians
  • They'll never be used on Americans
  • This will protect my country and make it strong
  • I trust my government

Pick one or more that helps ease your mind.

Re:Programmer ethics (2, Insightful)

keepper (24317) | more than 2 years ago | (#38299060)

Oh nice.. another ( i'm hollier than though morality ) comment

Brought to you by(tm).... the internet... a DARPA/(Military industrial complex) sponsored project....
Made possible by (tm).. Xray litography... another child of a military sponsored project...

I can keep going. :)

go with your BS somewhere else..

Re:Programmer ethics (1)

arielCo (995647) | more than 2 years ago | (#38299252)

Speaking of drones ... WHOOOSH
Better take that sarcasmometer for a checkup!

Imagine the soldier of the future (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38298620)

I can just imagine the briefing: "You have a budget of $50 000 000 for this operation; spend it wisely. We recommend you start by downloading the budgeting app - it helps you optimise your expenditure on drones."

Would make a rather cool game, in fact: balance your expenditure on drones and armaments vs impact on the enemy. No more ammo limits - just credit limits :)

Suggests the soldier of the future will be an RTS geek, not a muscle-man.

Iron Man (2)

burning_plastic (164918) | more than 2 years ago | (#38298650)

There was an Iron Man storyline (Stark Resilient) not too long ago that had a game app being released that pretended that real missions were actually part of the game, with the players controlling UAVs...

solution: (1)

Gravis Zero (934156) | more than 2 years ago | (#38298724)

hire intelligent people instead of just the usual cronies.

Re:solution: (1)

lightknight (213164) | more than 2 years ago | (#38299050)

They don't have enough money to do that. There's some sort of conflict between the military mindset and the creative geniuses out there.

Auto-aim (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38298756)

Any chance for an auto-aim targetting RIAA and MPAA headquarters?

Documents Containing More info: (3, Informative)

Memroid (898199) | more than 2 years ago | (#38298884)

Re:Documents Containing More info: (1)

Memroid (898199) | more than 2 years ago | (#38298914)

Based on the documents contained in the parent post, it sounds like your company or organization would be acting as a government contractor. As with similar contractor work, you submit a full proposal with bid. This in no way relates to how an app store may work.

Still old school: (1)

Hartree (191324) | more than 2 years ago | (#38298894)

"Angry UAVs, Nuke Ninja, and other battlefield apps"

I'm still stuck with the naPalm Pilot you insensitive clods.

http://www.lorax.org/~arosin/napalm.pdf [lorax.org]

Fuck the system (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38298904)

Fuck the system

US Wars (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38299058)

Episode 1: The Phantom Terrorist
Episode 2: The Drone Wars
Episode 3: Revenge of the Rove
Episode 4: A New Haarp
Episode 5: The US Strikes Back
Episode 6: Return of the Voter

Re:US Wars (1)

colinrichardday (768814) | more than 2 years ago | (#38299304)

Episode 6: Return of the Voter

Isn't science fiction suppose to be somewhat realistic?

so many kinds of wrong (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38299066)

I don't even know where to begin. Let's leaveit at Force-close.

Who would feel ethically OK with doing this? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38299100)

http://www.acm.org/about/se-code
Well, I guess if we ignore the first principle of the Software Engineering Code of Ethics...

War is supposed to be... (1)

Nethemas the Great (909900) | more than 2 years ago | (#38299346)

bloody, messy, cost countless lives (for both sides) and be completely abhorrent. It's supposed to be that way because that's the only way to not have war. If we make it nice, clean, neat, and remote then the victor can tell any tale they want. Slaughtered millions at the hands of robot jocks thousands of miles away? No, they surrendered peacefully with minimal bloodshed. Thousands of casualties taking out the enemy HQ? No, it was a precision strike that killed only the bad guys. Not even dust settled on the neighboring buildings... This pursuit is shameful.
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