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Iranian TV Shows Downed US Drone

timothy posted more than 2 years ago | from the you-mean-ben-afleck-can-you-fly dept.

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First time accepted submitter loic_2003 writes "Iranian TV has broadcast footage of an advanced U.S. drone aircraft that Tehran says it brought down using electronic methods to override its controls. The BBC's James Reynolds watched the footage and said the fact that the drone appeared undamaged provided some evidence to support Tehran's version of events. The film was captioned 'RQ170 — advanced U.S. spy plane' and carried on the Vision of the Islamic Republic of Iran Network 1 channel."

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Those darn TV shows (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38306492)

There is nothing more dangerous to a drone than a TV show.

Holy crap! (5, Funny)

DoofusOfDeath (636671) | more than 2 years ago | (#38306510)

They have anti-aircraft TV shows? We're screwed.

Re:Holy crap! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38306642)

I was thinking the same thing.

Re:Holy crap! (5, Funny)

Guppy (12314) | more than 2 years ago | (#38306724)

They have anti-aircraft TV shows? We're screwed.

It's the ultimate weapon against drone aircraft. They flood the control frequencies with Jerry Springer and UFO Conspiracy documentaries, causing the controller to become too stupid to continue flying the aircraft.

Re:Holy crap! (5, Funny)

TheGratefulNet (143330) | more than 2 years ago | (#38306860)

little known secret: encode fox news audio or video data in serial bitstream format and beam directly at incoming smart weapons.

it confuses them and they make all the wrong decisions, interpreting garbled messages as literal data and acting on it with full force.

Re:Holy crap! (5, Funny)

DoofusOfDeath (636671) | more than 2 years ago | (#38306874)

They have anti-aircraft TV shows? We're screwed.

It's the ultimate weapon against drone aircraft. They flood the control frequencies with Jerry Springer and UFO Conspiracy documentaries, causing the controller to become too stupid to continue flying the aircraft.

Wow, someone finally out-Foxed us!

Re:Holy crap! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38306962)

I want you to know, I was going to post in this article, but that made me laugh enough to forgo it and moderate instead!

Re:Holy crap! (2)

ISoldat53 (977164) | more than 2 years ago | (#38306890)

If our drones can be taken so easily, we're screwed.

Re:Holy crap! (1)

z3pp3h (1842070) | more than 2 years ago | (#38307076)

Actually, we aren't at all! No drones means that our actual pilots will be allowed to perform their jobs... way scarier than any drone.

I used to down US drones (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38306534)

...then I took an arrow to the knee

Let me guess... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38306624)

...someone stole your sweetroll.

the truely amazing thing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38306570)

is the drone is apparently made entirely of cheese. not only is it good for espionage work, it tastes delicious on crackers!

Any minute now... (2)

Draconi (38078) | more than 2 years ago | (#38306580)

UPDATE: Iranian TV has upgraded their broadcast footage to FIVE (*very* similarly damaged) advanced U.S. drone aircraft.

Anyone else not surprised? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38306600)

I mean given that hobby R/C work pretty much the same way, just way smaller scale, who would have thought that you could override a remote signal.
 
I guess the suits in Washington never had a hobby otherwise they would know this.
 
Next they will want to put weapons on them cause they could never be taken control.... never mind.
 
Now I already realize these things must have some kind of scrambled frequency, but still generate enough interference and you have a drone.

Re:Anyone else not surprised? (3, Interesting)

bev_tech_rob (313485) | more than 2 years ago | (#38306770)

On most modern 2.4 Ghz R/C radios (such as Spektrum, etc), there is a 'bind' procedure that locks the transmitter and receiver together and prevents someone else from overridding the controls and to prevent interference from other transmitters. Granted the system used to control this drone is more sophisticated (hopefully), but you would think a similar system would be in place.

That may be a bad assumption seeing as there was an article recently reporting that it was possible to intercept the video feed from U.S. drones.

Re:Anyone else not surprised? (3, Interesting)

Grishnakh (216268) | more than 2 years ago | (#38306958)

It's impossible to prevent radio interference, no matter how fancy your "bind" procedure is. All you need is a simple jammer that broadcasts over the entire spectrum that the enemy is using.

The idea that you could replace human pilots in military planes with remote control was always idiotic.

Re:Anyone else not surprised? (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38306978)

My current speculation is that they couldn't override the control signal, but they could jam it, and then the drone did some kind of emergency crash landing or whatever.

Re:Anyone else not surprised? (2)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | more than 2 years ago | (#38306880)

Now I already realize these things must have some kind of scrambled frequency, but still generate enough interference and you have a drone.

An out-of-control drone. It's relatively easy to jam the control signal, but assuming there's any half-decent encryption involved, taking control would be much harder.

Re:Anyone else not surprised? (1)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | more than 2 years ago | (#38306906)

And by "much harder" BTW, I mean by the standards of first-world militaries with bleeding-edge tech and the world's best cryptographers at their disposal. For Iran it would be practically impossible.

Re:Anyone else not surprised? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38307002)

The password was probably "sex" or "god", possibly even "sexgod" or "godsex".

Re:Anyone else not surprised? (3, Informative)

Sulphur (1548251) | more than 2 years ago | (#38306996)

I guess the suits in Washington never had a hobby otherwise they would know this.

Their hobby is screwing people. I guess they did not get around to R/C model aircraft.

Undamaged? (1)

qwertyatwork (668720) | more than 2 years ago | (#38306636)

So they shot it out of the sky, and it doesn't have a single scratch on it?

Re:Undamaged? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38306680)

nice troll. you got me there for a second!

Re:Undamaged? (1)

WraithCube (1391567) | more than 2 years ago | (#38306696)

So they shot it out of the sky, and it doesn't have a single scratch on it?

First line of the summary: "Tehran says it brought down using electronic methods to override its controls", which is why having it undamaged supports this claim.

Re:Undamaged? (2)

acoustix (123925) | more than 2 years ago | (#38306742)

Originally there were reports by Iran that they shot it down. Iran seems to keep changing their story on how they acquired the plane.

Re:Undamaged? (5, Interesting)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 2 years ago | (#38306832)

Just like the CIA changed its story, you mean? "Drone, what drone?" to "It's possible we've lost one in Afghanistan, but no one took it down" to "Yeah, it's probably ours. But it didn't enter their airspace" to "Well, it might have strayed accidentally into their airspace." At some point in the future, when all is said and declassified, I'm sure we'll learn it was on a spy mission in the middle of Iran.

Re:Undamaged? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38306982)

This is why the western propaganda machine has to make sure to state that this is "Iran's version" of the story. They know too well how many times, they have changed their version and feel everyone else probably has different versions as well. You notice that they never acknowledge that the CIA version changed?

Re:Undamaged? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38307080)

supports this claim

Here is a vastly more plausible theory; the spy drone performed an autonomous landing after loss of contact with operators and fuel depletion. Luck intervened and the aircraft landed somewhere that inflicted little visible damage; sand or water perhaps.

Re:Undamaged? (1)

wisnoskij (1206448) | more than 2 years ago | (#38306738)

Sometimes people don't read the original article and their comment makes that lack of knowledge obvious.
But most people at least read the /. summery before commenting, obviously you have not.

Undamaged Replica? (5, Interesting)

j-stroy (640921) | more than 2 years ago | (#38306804)

Despite extensive covering on the underside, to me it looks TOO fresh and undamaged. It doesn't look used at all

I think this is a mold reproduction of whatever they did get, faired out the damaged areas, swapped over a few parts and the paint is is still wet. There is nothing underneath it, its just a surface shell that looks right.

It's suprisingly large (1)

Piata (927858) | more than 2 years ago | (#38306640)

I dunno why, but when I heard "drone" I thought of something smaller and less conspicuous. This thing's easily 4 meters across.

Re:It's suprisingly large (1)

wanzeo (1800058) | more than 2 years ago | (#38306786)

Wikipedia says they're claiming it has a wingspan of 26 meters. [wikipedia.org] After reading the wikipedia entry, the whole thing looks like it was designed to be pretty disposable. Still a huge gaffe for the US though.

Re:It's suprisingly large (2)

Grishnakh (216268) | more than 2 years ago | (#38307008)

Guess that depends on your definition of "disposable". The Wiki article doesn't list the cost of this UAV, but the MQ-9 Reaper is estimated at over $30 million apiece. But with the way Obama and the other neocons spend money, I guess that's small change to him.

Re:It's suprisingly large (3, Informative)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | more than 2 years ago | (#38306968)

Looks closer to 20 meters across to me. A plane doesn't need to be small to be stealthy, look at the B2 Spirit...

Is that a school gym? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38306652)

hooray human shields

It sounds feasible (4, Insightful)

msobkow (48369) | more than 2 years ago | (#38306668)

I seem to recall reading that the communications to the drones are largely unencrypted for some unknown reason, so if that's the case, I could see someone overriding the controls and bringing down the plane.

It seems very unlikely that an uncontrolled aircraft would come down in one piece, yet the US claims that the drone in Iran's possession is one they lost control and track of. The idea that the US could lose track of a piece of technology that size with all their spy satellites and spy planes doesn't seem very likely to me, further lending credence to Iran's story.

Methinks the US may have been caught red-handed spying on Iran. It's not a surprise that they would be doing so, but it is very surprising that they've been sloppy enough to get caught.

US Has Confirmed It (4, Informative)

eldavojohn (898314) | more than 2 years ago | (#38306788)

Just FYI, most other reports are saying that the United States acknowledges this [sfgate.com] the only incredulity surrounds how the drone went down -- not whether it was there or not. US says technical malfunction. Iran says Allah helped them hack it and control it themselves.

Re:It sounds feasible (1)

interval1066 (668936) | more than 2 years ago | (#38306790)

The thought that the com to the drone is unencrypted is completely plausible according to one article I read a while back (I don't have any refs, sorry), so this is certainly possible.

Re:It sounds feasible (3, Interesting)

nedlohs (1335013) | more than 2 years ago | (#38306800)

If they did override the controls then surely it wouldn't have to be in Iranian airspace in the first place. Radio waves don't stop at the border after aren't frowned upon like firing missiles into neighboring countries are.

Re:It sounds feasible (5, Informative)

wrmrxxx (696969) | more than 2 years ago | (#38306976)

My recollection is that it was only the video feed returned from the drone that was unencrypted. The control signals sent to the aircraft were still encrypted. Even signal jamming is apparently a difficult way to disable the drone because it has a degree of autonomy.

If Iran's claims are true (that it gained control of the plane) then that is either quite an achievement on their part, or quite a failure on the part of the US engineers.

Uhg... (1)

SomePgmr (2021234) | more than 2 years ago | (#38306670)

I was hoping this would turn out to be bs. I guess they've claimed to have shot down our stuff before and never produced any evidence.

I guess it's a little irrational but I don't mind keeping an eye on them from space... but flying aircraft over a nation like that is asking for trouble. You can only use, "It veered off course" so many times. I mean, especially from the same folks that can put a missile through your bedroom window from a couple thousand miles away.

Re:Uhg... (0)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 2 years ago | (#38306768)

Mythbusters can lob a cannon ball 3/4 of the way around the planet from california to dublin,Ireland and not only out it through the front door, but up the stairs and out the window into a minivan!

Re:Uhg... (1)

Amouth (879122) | more than 2 years ago | (#38306814)

we should just go back to U2's and SR71's .. fly high and fast enough that they don't' have a chance to get you

(yes i'm aware that some U2's where shot down, but they have a hell of a flight record)

Re:Uhg... (3, Interesting)

Grishnakh (216268) | more than 2 years ago | (#38307074)

The SR71 was rendered obsolete by satellites. The Wiki article on the RQ-170 is pretty sparse on details (since the thing is shrouded in secrecy), but at appears to have some weapons capability, something the SR71 never had.

The real element that makes aircraft like the SR71 more immune to being downed by the Iranians, however, isn't flying high and fast, it's having a human pilot in the aircraft instead of relying on easily-jammed radio for control.

They Are Showing It Off Outside? (1)

SaroDarksbane (1784314) | more than 2 years ago | (#38306702)

Captured US Drone Destroyed By US Drone Strike in 3 . . . 2 . . . 1 . . .

Re:They Are Showing It Off Outside? (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38306716)

Captured US Drone Destroyed By US Drone Strike in 3 . . . 2 . . . 1 . . .

Breaking News: Iran now in possession of two US drones, a spy drone and a predator drone...

Found it mildly amusing that... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38306706)

Story title is
'Iranian TV Shows Downed US Drone'

closely followed by this

'Ask Slashdot: Is Your Data Safe In the Cloud?..'

Data? maybe, dinky wee spyplanes? apparently not...need heavier cloud cover, maybe?

also amusing: 'captcha' thingie is Bumbler...apposite apropos the controller of this beastie...

Would it matter? (1)

walterbyrd (182728) | more than 2 years ago | (#38306722)

Would it give Iran any great insight into US technology? Or anything of that nature?

Re:Would it matter? (2)

MrQuacker (1938262) | more than 2 years ago | (#38306778)

Wanna bet Chinese technical agents are already taking it apart?

Re:Would it matter? (4, Funny)

PolygamousRanchKid (1290638) | more than 2 years ago | (#38306966)

It shouldn't be too difficult for them to take apart. The construction was probably outsourced, so the Chinese technical agents built it in the first place.

Maybe Iranian TV will show us a peak at the "Made in ....." label?

Those American flags don't convince me . . . I didn't see any pirate skulls on the American flags at the last Olympics . . .

Re:Would it matter? (1, Insightful)

Nethemas the Great (909900) | more than 2 years ago | (#38306952)

Yes, and quite frankly good on them. We have no business invading their airspace. Further, this sort of thing exposes in a very blatant way how the DoD and the contractors responsible for developing these vehicles have made little to no effort to safeguard them from radio interference. This is particularly troubling given our substantial and growing dependence upon these vehicles and downright scary when you consider the fact that they're weaponizing many of them.

Oh Iran ... You Are Too Cute (2, Insightful)

eldavojohn (898314) | more than 2 years ago | (#38306730)

I like how they hang American flags with white skulls instead of stars beneath it [dailymail.co.uk] as well as graffiti covering them. Real mature. Sort of makes me want to photoshop their flag with the tulip being one person stoning another person while blood drips down into the bottom band.

So you've downed a pristine intact drone from your mortal enemy. Do you A) keep it secret to have an upper hand and send it to a lab to analyze all of its weaknesses and offer this information to your allies or B) take pictures in front of it with propaganda surrounding it and show the world? Well, I guess when you don't know how to do A you have to go with B!

Re:Oh Iran ... You Are Too Cute (4, Insightful)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 2 years ago | (#38306882)

The propaganda they'll get out of taking down one of the mighty U.S. spy drones (and establishing that they ARE, in fact, being spied on by the U.S.) is WAY more valuable to the regime there than any stealth tech they'll get out of it. And they'll still get that tech anyway. It's not like they're not going to tear it apart when the press conferences are all over.

Re:Oh Iran ... You Are Too Cute (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38306908)

The propaganda they'll get out of taking down one of the mighty U.S. spy drones (and establishing that they ARE, in fact, being spied on by the U.S.) is WAY more valuable to the regime there than any stealth tech they'll get out of it. And they'll still get that tech anyway. It's not like they're not going to tear it apart when the press conferences are all over.

But now your enemy knows what you have ... do you not think the US will pump tons of money into the next generation of this thing? Does anyone here understand the value of not showing your hand? Have you ever heard of a game called Poker?

Re:Oh Iran ... You Are Too Cute (3, Interesting)

The Askylist (2488908) | more than 2 years ago | (#38306896)

So you've downed a pristine intact drone from your mortal enemy. Do you A) keep it secret to have an upper hand and send it to a lab to analyze all of its weaknesses and offer this information to your allies or B) take pictures in front of it with propaganda surrounding it and show the world? Well, I guess when you don't know how to do A you have to go with B!

I guess they have the ability to do A, but given the recent assassinations of their nuclear scientists and the explosions at their rocket plant and centrifuges, option B is probably a better bet.

It will force the US to rejig the comms to their drones, and promote one hell of a fuss in the US command chain as arses are covered and blame transferred to the least well protected elements.

It also gives them something to crow about, and can legitimately be used to justify at least one retaliatory action.

Re:Oh Iran ... You Are Too Cute (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38307078)

I guess they have the ability to do A, but given the recent assassinations of their nuclear scientists and the explosions at their rocket plant and centrifuges

Hint: Nuclear scientists and centrifuges are not needed to analyze electrical components and aircraft design.

It will force the US to rejig the comms to their drones

Yeah and think what you could have done if you didn't force the US to 'rejig the comms on their drones.' You know I would probably run a huge campaign taking these things out and keep denying anything about them until the US either left or changed the comms. But you know, what do I know about military strategy ...

Re:Oh Iran ... You Are Too Cute (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38306988)

So you've downed a pristine intact drone from your mortal enemy. Do you
A) keep it secret to have an upper hand and send it to a lab to analyze all of its weaknesses and offer this information to your allies

Probably already done, (maybe with a little help from China/Russia).

B) take pictures in front of it with propaganda surrounding it and show the world?

Done!

Well, I guess when you don't know how to do A you have to go with B!

You seem to be labouring under the false impression that the Iranians have no technical capabilities at all, honestly, just because there are a number of religious looneys running the country, they're not all nutters...I mean, using the same criteria, how the hell has the US survived as a fair number of your politicos are religious nutjobs?

If this *is* a US drone, and they have captured it the way they've described, then apart from the obvious 'how did they break the encryption on the control link?' question, the other one I'd be asking at this moment is 'WTF happened to the 'auto-destruct' ?' (I'm assuming that, as a matter of course, these things have one?}

Re:Oh Iran ... You Are Too Cute (5, Insightful)

GSloop (165220) | more than 2 years ago | (#38307058)

Lets see here. We're waging robo war in Pakistan, Afganistan, Iraq Yemen - virtually surrounded their whole country - some 100K troops near their borders.
We're beating the drums of "Those Iranians are the worst since Hitler..."
We're probably assassinating their scientists.
We've invaded multiple countries without provocation for a long time, and waged countless covert wars and actions against those we don't like.
We supported a proxy war [using our best friend Saddam Hussain - (where have I heard that name before?)] using weapons of mass destruction against the Iranians, using US intelligence.
And less than sixty years ago we helped overthrow a democratically elected government in Iran and put in place the Shah. [Who was evil in ways that Hitler *would* understand.] ...and if I understand you, you're complaining that the Iranians used some props you find offensive.

You sir, have a most misplaced sense of decency [or a most woefully inadequate knowledge of the history of the dealings of your country].

Of all the offenses betwixt the USA and Iran, I'd posit that the balance isn't even close to parity. The Iranians have a lot of IOU's due against the US. [Like enough to use one every day for a century.]

Re:Oh Iran ... You Are Too Cute (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38307088)

Whatever, man.

Nuking Jerusalem would bring peace to the Middle East - just blame God and the religious loony toonies who'll put a fuss will shut up.

The whole Middle East horseshit disgusts me. It disgusts me that my government - the US of A - is spending billions upon billions of our tax dollars to do whatever the fuck they're doing over there. I don't give a flying fuck about Israel or any other country there. Israel has plenty of free US made weapons to defend herself. Sure I want all the Arab and Persian peoples to be self governed - even if it's an Islamic Government (oh! Gasp!). It's much better than a US of A supported dictatorship - any day! Jesus Motherfucking Christ! It's killing me that my country's foreign policy is so fucking stupid and one sided. And get this - most of my moronic countrymen say we're a Christian country. Really? What about what Confucius said (which Jesus later plagiarized): Treat others like you'd like to be treated.

Huh?!?

Goddamn us! Karma is a bitch fuckers.

The US military had a plan to recover it... (-1, Flamebait)

scottbomb (1290580) | more than 2 years ago | (#38306732)

But they didn't want to "offend" the Iranians. [According to a report in the Wall Street Journal].

I think we all know who made that decision.

Re:The US military had a plan to recover it... (5, Insightful)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 2 years ago | (#38306904)

If by "offend," you mean "possibly start a fucking war by sending U.S. troops into Iran, all for the sake of a lousy drone" then yes.

Re:The US military had a plan to recover it... (4, Insightful)

yoha (249396) | more than 2 years ago | (#38306922)

What you call "offend" would more commonly be understood as war. I'm going to guess it was the President's decision not to engage in a war against Iran.

Re:The US military had a plan to recover it... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38306956)

But they didn't want to "Invade" Iran. Yet. [According to a report in the Wall Street Journal].

I think we all know who made that decision.

FTFY.

Re:The US military had a plan to recover it... (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38306960)

I think we all know who made that decision.

Someone smart enough not to get into a shooting war with Iran?

Re:The US military had a plan to recover it... (1, Insightful)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | more than 2 years ago | (#38307026)

Yeah Obama's such a pussy, not wanting to invade a sovereign nation the US is already on bad terms with just to pick up a crashed drone that has no bleeding-edge tech on board.

according to Fox you mean? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38307034)

They got bought. Can you still trust them?

I think it costed to a landing after it failed.... (4, Insightful)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 2 years ago | (#38306750)

Honestly a drone takeover requires you to be above it. They get control from satellites and AWAC's that are flying ABOVE Them. they do not get controls from ground based transmitters. Plus how did they get their hands on the C&C protocols?

IF they did this, then the USA military electronics is a complete and utter joke. But right now I'm claiming that it glided into the sandy wasteland after it had a failure and they found it.

Re:I think it costed to a landing after it failed. (1)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | more than 2 years ago | (#38307038)

Yeah it's quite possible they jammed the signal and the drone failed un-gracefully (maybe started circling and was low on fuel), but if this was actually taken over then it was designed by morons.

Re:I think it costed to a landing after it failed. (5, Insightful)

chispito (1870390) | more than 2 years ago | (#38307044)

But right now I'm claiming that it glided into the sandy wasteland after it had a failure and they found it.

For a recon platform, that's a pretty crappy fail safe mode.

Re:I think it costed to a landing after it failed. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38307046)

I'd like to agree with you on this, but unfortunately, this thing appears to be a flying wing. And if I remember correctly, flying wings don't glide very well without control. Also, given enough power a ground based transmitter will have no problem over powering a satellite signal.

Re:I think it costed to a landing after it failed. (2)

MikeMo (521697) | more than 2 years ago | (#38307054)

How do you expect to get modded up with a sane and rational comment like that?

R/C death (1)

bobcat7677 (561727) | more than 2 years ago | (#38306754)

Not surprised really. Well, a little surprised it has taken this long for something like this to happen given the leaks about how poorly encrypted (or not encrypted) the control channels are on these things.

I am a USA citizen, but I am really kinda glad they have it and hope they do share the tech with everybody. I think UAVs just serve to further insulate soldiers from the violence of war and make war crimes WAY too easy. If everybody has these little gadgets, then it levels the battlefield a bit as it were.

Re:R/C death (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38306898)

It levels the battlefield only in providing everyone with a gun... No offense, but if you and I are the last 2 humans on earth, the very last person I want holding the only remaining gun is you. Instead, I'd prefer us have no guns at all... But then, you ask, what about fists or feet? Okay, you got me. We'd all need amputations with a complete teeth removal operation and padding around our heads to prevent ourselves from using our skulls for weapons. Yep, that about does it: no weapons, no extremities, and no teeth with our heads bubble-wrapped... Yeah, that will fix everything...

In order to protect itself.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38306828)

Is it just me or does this look a few steps away from Skynet?

Override? (1)

Kozar_The_Malignant (738483) | more than 2 years ago | (#38306852)

If you override or jam the control frequencies, doesn't it just become an unguided flying object? My (very limited) experience with R/C flying indicates that usually results in a crash landing. I realize the drones will have some internal stabilizing circuitry, but shouldn't it fly until it runs out of fuel or hits something? The undamaged appearance would seem to indicate that they either took over the controls or faked the whole thing.

Re:Override? (1)

Kupfernigk (1190345) | more than 2 years ago | (#38307048)

If you were designing it, wouldn't you arrange for it to fail gracefully if it lost the control signal? like by a slow descent onto an area marked as water or desert on the built in maps? A responsible designer would.

Taken from air base? (1)

SurgeryByNumbers (726928) | more than 2 years ago | (#38306866)

Just a thought, but could this have been stolen from an air base in Iraq / Afghanistan? It would explain the lack of damage.

Good for Uncle Sam (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38306920)

When a regieme has a record of mass murder advanced Fascism heavy investment in the creation of weapons of mass destruction repeated promises to employ same at the earliest opportunity considerable domestic opposition and finally a record of using bellicosity and foreign enemies as an excuse for retaining power, to spy on them is the least we should be doing. Giving them the full Hitler-in-the-bunker treatrment would be much more wise. IE WAR pending unconditional suurender of regieme and society or destruction of both. By any means imaginable whether necessary or not, whichever is quickest surest cheapest to us.

BOMB BOMB BOMB, Atom Bomb Iran!

They are in for it now (5, Funny)

paiute (550198) | more than 2 years ago | (#38306942)

"Tehran says it brought down using electronic methods to override its controls" Hey now. Espionage and sabotage are one thing, but that might be a DMCA violation!

Boom? (4, Interesting)

GerryHattrick (1037764) | more than 2 years ago | (#38306946)

Wouldn't you expect that n hours after failing to receive commands, and if no coded 'safe' key input, a self-destruct system would trip in? Check that thing for ticking, guys; remember HMS Campbeltown!

What China would have done (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38306954)

If that drone had belonged to China or Russia, they would have threaten a military response and demanded the return of the drone immediately. Iran would have no choice but to return the drone a few days later. The U.S. is weak and stupid when it comes to the rules of war. Thanks liberal leftist. Why don't you liberal leftist give your " wisdom " to Russia or China?

Corbomite solution (1)

wolfsdaughter (1081205) | more than 2 years ago | (#38307012)

Why don't we put explosives in these things with different conditions on detonation (lack of signal for a certain amount of time, receipt of encrypted detonation signal, unauthorized opening of the drone, etc)?

All your drones are belong to us (0)

tedgyz (515156) | more than 2 years ago | (#38307016)

This is scary that the US control system is able to be taken over. You would think they would have more security than RC channel 5.

Aggression by whom? (4, Interesting)

dpilot (134227) | more than 2 years ago | (#38307030)

When this story first broke, it was cited as response to an American act of aggression. Now we hear that they overrode communications and forced the drone to land. At the very least, the latter seems to me to be something that you'd have to be well prepared to do, in advance. So perhaps the drone was deliberately encroaching on Iranian airspace, but they must have been patiently waiting for their opportunity to pounce.

It's also possible that the drone was patrolling the border from inside Iraq or Afghanistan, and Iran sent radio waves across the border to make the intercept. That's unknown. But by pateience and pouncing or by cross-border override, in either case it seems to me that they've given up the right to shriek in righteous indignation about being violated. The proper response to "Oh No!! Our airspace is being violated!!" would have been to shoot the thing down. There's an air of deliberation here that doesn't square.

Second Reaction (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38307092)

When the initial drone story broke, I was highly dubious and anticipated Photoshopped aircraft parts.

Then the U.S. denied anything had happened. Then they said they had lost control of a drone and it had veered int Iranian airspace prior to crashing. All the while, Iran claimed to have brought it down, under their control and in tact.

Today, with the release of this video, it does indeed seem that Iran is telling the truth in this case. That's a major blow to the U.S. and its drone program.

The only question is, assuming that Iran is correct, why did they take so long to release the video?

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