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Picture Blocking Beer Cooler Keeps Your Face Out of Embarrassing Photos

samzenpus posted more than 2 years ago | from the bucket-that-has-your-back dept.

Beer 200

cylonlover writes "It may sound like something dreamed up by a cheesy men's magazine as a joke, but apparently this is a real thing that actually exists. Ostensibly, the Norte Photoblocker is a functional beer cooler surrounded by four sensors that can detect the flashes from cameras or cell phones. If a flash goes off in the direction of the Photoblocker, it fires its own flash to flood the resulting photos with bright white and obscure anyone nearby. Now you can go about your usual business of cheating on your spouse, being an idiot around your boss, or drunkenly harassing fellow party-goers without worrying that some wildly irresponsible person will tag you in a photo and posts it online."

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Absolutely flawless (5, Insightful)

igreaterthanu (1942456) | more than 2 years ago | (#38378018)

Because there is no way to take a photo without a flash.

Re:Absolutely flawless (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38378038)

I'm not sure if you've ever actually been to a bar or real party (read: rager) but most of those environments are dark enough that without flash, your pictures are nearly useless when attempting to identify people.

Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! (4, Funny)

MasterOfGoingFaster (922862) | more than 2 years ago | (#38378432)

I'm not sure if you've ever actually been to a bar or real party (read: rager) but most of those environments are dark enough that without flash, your pictures are nearly useless when attempting to identify people.

Not so for me. I use a Nikon D700 camera with a 85mm f/1.4 lens and need no flash to shoot in near-darkness. I have many images to back up that statement.

Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38378502)

He's probably never used a decent lens, or is one of those MegaPixies roolz Canon users.

Nikon rules the night.

Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! (3, Insightful)

samkass (174571) | more than 2 years ago | (#38378970)

Nikon super-ISO modes are pretty awesome. But I still gotta give props to Canon for always having a $99 F/1.8 55mm lens available for any camera they make. The difference between your typical F/3.5 zoom versus an F/1.8 prime is like night and day (no pun intended). Too many people overspend on the body and underspend on the lens.

Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! (3)

planimal (2454610) | more than 2 years ago | (#38378552)

you're also a massive nerd. most cameras are in the hands of half drunk J.A.P's and are little more than casual or cell phone cameras.

Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38379000)

In case you haven't noticed, this is "News for Nerds".

Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! (4, Insightful)

eugene ts wong (231154) | more than 2 years ago | (#38379596)

That isn't his point. The point is that people here know enough about technical options, whereas Joe Six Pack only knows how to do it with a flash, making the special cooler useful for most situations.

Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! (1)

geekprime (969454) | more than 2 years ago | (#38378944)

Ya, we arent inviting you OR your spycam to the party, thanks.

Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38379284)

I doubt he was invited to many of the places him and "Ol' Nightstalker" have been taking pictures.

Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! (3, Insightful)

thegarbz (1787294) | more than 2 years ago | (#38379248)

Awesome, now we just need every 15 year old girl to pull $5k worth of camera equipment from her purse to take a semi blurry snap that ends up on facebook.

Let's face it. YOU are not a typical photographer.

Also lets face it if you used an 85mm f/1.4 in any semi decent bar on a friday night there'll be about 20 teenagers filling in the gap between you and the subject you're trying to photograph :-P

Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38379486)

I'm not sure if you've ever actually been to a bar or real party (read: rager) but most of those environments are dark enough that without flash, your pictures are nearly useless when attempting to identify people.

Not so for me. I use a Nikon D700 camera with a 85mm f/1.4 lens and need no flash to shoot in near-darkness. I have many images to back up that statement.

ahhh...why do you take such an expensive cam into every night club you visit???

Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! (3, Interesting)

Runaway1956 (1322357) | more than 2 years ago | (#38379836)

The same reason that nerds use high dollar computers to visit every trashy site on the web? A guy who has good tools, no matter what trade, hobby, or profession he might be in, isn't going to keep a "backup" set of cheap tools around for those "less important" jobs. A real pro might have a workshop filled with ultra-expensive tools of his trade, but even his carry away bag of tools is going to be filled with quality items.

Whatever your profession is, look at your own carry away "toolbox". Did you buy a bunch of junk from WalMart to fill it?

Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38380154)

The easier to have it stolen, my dear.

Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! (1)

MightyYar (622222) | more than 2 years ago | (#38379540)

You'd carry your DSLR out with you to a "rager" or bar?

Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! (1)

FloydTheDroid (1296743) | more than 2 years ago | (#38379726)

Pics or it didn't happen

Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! (1)

timeOday (582209) | more than 2 years ago | (#38379800)

The D700 still has an autofocus assist light... busted!

Re:Nikon pro cameras with fast lenses work great! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38380174)

Not so for me. I use a Nikon D700 camera with a 85mm f/1.4 lens and need no flash to shoot in near-darkness. I have many images to back up that statement.

Is that an expression of pride at having spent some $5000 just so that you can continue, as per TFS, to be one of those wildly irresponsible people taking embarassing photos of people cheating on their spouses, being an idiot around their boss, or drunkenly harassing fellow party-goers? :P

Re:Absolutely flawless (3, Informative)

icebike (68054) | more than 2 years ago | (#38378450)

Not always.
Some modern cell phones have fantastic low light capability simply because they know that LED Camera flashes are so weak.

But you can counter the good low light cameras with an LED hat: http://hacknmod.com/hack/blind-cameras-with-an-infrared-led-hat/ [hacknmod.com]

Re:Absolutely flawless (2)

mysidia (191772) | more than 2 years ago | (#38379676)

I'm thinking.... put a polarizing filter on the camera, and a cover/filter on its flash. Use a flash of a specific wavelength and filter everything else out from reaching your camera.

Re:Absolutely flawless (1)

identity0 (77976) | more than 2 years ago | (#38380036)

Interesting link, thanks.

Are there other ways to prevent photos from being taken, or at least make it harder? How about clothes that have interference lines or strong color contrasts, would that at least mess with picture quality?

Re:Absolutely flawless (0)

camperdave (969942) | more than 2 years ago | (#38378706)

Usually, if you're at a bar or a house party, there's no need for a cooler. Coolers are for outdoor parties, and in such situations, are frequently set on the ground. A flash from a ground based source is not going to affect a photo too much, unless you're trying to take a picture of someone passed out on the grass.

Re:Absolutely flawless (1)

eugene ts wong (231154) | more than 2 years ago | (#38379606)

In the video, they showed that the cooler could only contain 1 drink at a time. It is a personal beverage cooler, not a big thing that contains lots of beer.

Re:Absolutely flawless (2)

rev0lt (1950662) | more than 2 years ago | (#38378708)

I've done concert photography with an f/3.5 lens and 1600 ISO without much issue. Many modern compact cameras also shoot in the infrared range, so you can actually see people without any visible light. Sony even advertised this feature in some models.

concert photos (1)

KingAlanI (1270538) | more than 2 years ago | (#38379246)

are you an official photographer? do you go to shows where they let you use good equipment or at least don't try too hard to stop you?
I don't have luck taking photos at concerts unless I'm standing real close.
if it's not way-too-dark, glare from stage lights can mess up the shot.

Re:concert photos (4, Informative)

rev0lt (1950662) | more than 2 years ago | (#38379744)

My wife is a professional photographer and consultant, I sometimes use her equipment to take some shots. But I can give you some hints based on what I know:

You will need a DSLR camera. Sometimes you can take good shots with a compact camera, sometimes you can't. Professional-looking equipment is also part of the show, so people will bother you less if you look like a professional.
You usually won't be able to make good close-ups from far away without a tripod (and you probably won't get inside with a tripod), so you'll need to be close to the stage. Work with your camera in manual mode or speed priority, use a lens with a good aperture (be aware that below f/1.8 many not-so outrageusly expensive lenses may suffer from severe chromatic aberrations), use a sensible ISO value for the lens aperture and the kind of venue, and be aware that you probably won't take good pictures using the camera on your hands with speeds below 1/20s. If many variables confuse you, you may try a fixed aperture lens - you can probably find something like f1.8/50mm cheap, that will allow you to do good close-ups. As I said, I've used a common 18-55mm/3.5-5.6 with good results, but with a f/1.8 lens you'll be able to take dark photos and capture all the essence of the moment.

Some (good) photographers use speelites (those flashes you put on top of your camera) for floodfilling. You point your flash to the ceiling, and on a minimal setting, so it will "light up" the scene or the background without causing too much damage. Many use filters to scatter the flashlight and/or a small reflector to minimize impact on the public. Some (bad) photographers just think they need it, and spend all the time they have ruining other people's photos with light contamination.
One final note regarding equipment - live concerts are terrible for cameras, be aware that you may have to send your machine and lenses to be cleaned every year or so. The cigarrete smoke and from special effects machines will slowly make your machine dirty.

Now the good stuff - how to get in & get away with it: Get a professional-looking DSLR! If it is a local venue, you can contact the organization previously and ask for permission to take pictures, They usually allow it if you give them a copy of the resulting pictures. Many times you can score a free ticket if you already have portfolio. If the organization doesn't respond you, sometimes contacting the band directly works, but don't expect a free ticket. If nothing works, park near the venue and try to go in with the camera, they probably won't stop you if you look like a "photographer".
With smaller bands, they won't care if your photographing or not, specially if not using a flash at all. In bigger venues, expect to have a limited time to take pictures (usually the 2 first songs). I've actually seen concerts where the band stopped the concert until everyone stopped flashing their eyes.
Authorization from the organizers usually will allow you to go to the "special zone" between the stage and the public, but not much more. Every other situation may or may not give you access to that, so ask politely to whoever is doing security there.

Don't take my experience as a gospel (I'm from an european country, it may be different where you live), specially because my experience is mainly extreme metal concerts. Last advice - the mosh pit isn't the place to carry expensive equipment, so be careful if you cross it.

Re:concert photos (1)

rev0lt (1950662) | more than 2 years ago | (#38379754)

Sorry, too quick to submit. You should use Aperture Priority and not Speed Priority.

Re:Absolutely flawless (1)

viperidaenz (2515578) | more than 2 years ago | (#38378850)

are the videos useless too? like the low-light security cameras all over the bars that low paid security workers sell to the press?

Re:Absolutely flawless (1)

Algae_94 (2017070) | more than 2 years ago | (#38379270)

I think video cameras would work fine. The summary states that the cooler "flash" only fires when it senses a camera flash. Those video cameras don't use a flash so I don't think they would set off the cooler. The article might say something entirely different, but I didn't read it. This is /. after all.

Re:Absolutely flawless (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38378066)

... or video ...

I Predict This Joke Will Fly... (1)

cmholm (69081) | more than 2 years ago | (#38378674)

...over the heads of some commenters.

Re:Absolutely flawless (4, Insightful)

nurb432 (527695) | more than 2 years ago | (#38378786)

I guess video cameras don't exist either.

Re:Absolutely flawless (1)

rev0lt (1950662) | more than 2 years ago | (#38378822)

And it's not obvious how would it work with fill lighting (where you use the flash as a secundary scene light source), or multiple hi-speed sequence shots with a professional speedlite.

Re:Absolutely flawless (1)

Hentes (2461350) | more than 2 years ago | (#38378992)

In a dark bar, there isn't.

Re:Absolutely flawless (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38379108)

Also, you can actually detect the IR that most autofocus systems use and then flood the light space.

This tech has been around a while

example product for celebrities [1stradardetectors.com]

Re:Absolutely flawless (2)

wvmarle (1070040) | more than 2 years ago | (#38379516)

I hate flash photography. Not as much for the blinding flash, but it flattens an image. The people nearby are brightly lit (sometimes too bright), the background is black or near so. The whole atmosphere is gone. Most parties (as on the videos shown in TFA) use coloured lights and so: that is all gone as soon as you flash. Photos taken without flash (albeit much harder to do without having them blurred) usually look so much better.

That said: I'd love to see actual real-life results of this beer cooler in action. Not the shots from the videos (which are part of advertising so likely exaggerate), but just some snapshots that are affected by this cooler. I'm interested to see how well it works (or not).

Re:Absolutely flawless (5, Funny)

Cajun Hell (725246) | more than 2 years ago | (#38379878)

"Your money was well-spent, sonny. She's been cheating on you."

"I suspected as much, that's why I hired a private dick. But it's proof I need."

"You're not gonna like it..."

"I can take it. I have to know, for sure."

PD slides an envelope across the table. Man opens it. He stares, aghast.

"Oh my god."

"I'm sorry, sonny. Been workin' this line of business twenty years, but I never get used to the look of guy's faces. Some guys, they don't really want to know. They want to hold on to a forlorn hope that maybe, just maybe, the dame really was visiting her sister, see?"

"YOU BASTARD! HOW COULD YOU?"

"Look, I'm not proud of what I do. But you hired me, sonny. If you didn't want to know, y-"

"You used a flash! Where's the artistry? It's so unnatural. Her form intermingled with my soon-to-be-dead friend's.. look at their bodies. There's no depth. The lighting, good god man, the lighting! I'm supposed to believe this was a romantic interlude? They're like lifeless puppets!"

Re:Absolutely flawless (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38380026)

If I wasn't too lazy to log in, I would mod the shit out of this.

Re:Absolutely flawless (1)

soulsteal (104635) | more than 2 years ago | (#38380018)

A decent photographer would know to drag the shutter so you get a good blend of ambient light with enough fill flash to freeze the action and properly expose the subject.

About time someone invented (0)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 2 years ago | (#38378044)

the beer cooler you can wear as a helmet.

Oh, this isn't a helmet, but you could always wear it as one! w00t!

Re:About time someone invented (1)

Dayze!Confused (717774) | more than 2 years ago | (#38378114)

Can't wait to put this on my car and scooter. Hopefully it takes care of those speed/red light cameras.

Fast Lens Anyone? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38378064)

My f/1.8 at ISO 6400 just said "U MAD BRO?"

Product Synergy (5, Funny)

Kuipo (948744) | more than 2 years ago | (#38378070)

This will go great with my strobe light at my next party!

I must be old now; just don't be an idiot (3, Insightful)

bryan1945 (301828) | more than 2 years ago | (#38378086)

If you're an adult, no problem going to a bar/party. Just don't strip to your undies and and poor beer on yourself. If you're married, don't go out to public places with the prostitute/mistress. Don't throw wild keggers in your backyard. If you're going to go through this much trouble not to have your picture taken, you may want to 1) rethink your priorities, or 2) do such things in relative privacy with people you trust.

If you're still young, go be an idiot. That's what college is for, generally.

Re:I must be old now; just don't be an idiot (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38378116)

Poor beer, indeed.

Re:I must be old now; just don't be an idiot (1)

bryan1945 (301828) | more than 2 years ago | (#38378536)

Yeah, I realized that a bit later. But it would be much better with a fine microbrew! Shows good taste.

Re:I must be old now; just don't be an idiot (4, Insightful)

GodfatherofSoul (174979) | more than 2 years ago | (#38378172)

Yeah, but let's be realistic. There's a lot of things we might do in jest among friends that could be detrimental in the future. People snapping pictures surreptitiously at parties or "spy shots" should be kicked out, like what happened to Phelps.

Re:I must be old now; just don't be an idiot (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38378364)

Other partygoers can see things, and describe them later. Why should they be permitted to do so biologically, but not electronically?

Re:I must be old now; just don't be an idiot (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38378504)

It's easier to tell a lie than to fake a photograph, and people know this.

Re:I must be old now; just don't be an idiot (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38378770)

It's easier to tell a lie than to fake a photograph, and people know this.

No it isn't.

Re:I must be old now; just don't be an idiot (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38378930)

It's easier to tell a lie than to fake a photograph, and people know this.

No it isn't.

Is it harder to tell a lie than fake a photograph?
OR people, don't know it's harder to lie than fake a photograph?

Re:I must be old now; just don't be an idiot (1)

Menkhaf (627996) | more than 2 years ago | (#38378766)

I say we attack this problem from another angle. Instead of using a "flash blocking beer coolor", put your pictures online. Same goes for opinions, sexual preferences, and any other personal detail you can think of. With enough people joining in, we'll change the standard and make it publicly acceptable to act yourself (or be an ass).

I'll start: I'm drunk on the remains of a Cuban Havana Club. Mmmmmm.

Re:I must be old now; just don't be an idiot (2)

king neckbeard (1801738) | more than 2 years ago | (#38379660)

I think we're eventually going to have to come to terms with the fact that we've done stupid things in our lifetime. If you don't hire anyone who has a stupid picture of themselves on facebook, then the employee pool is going to be too small for you.

Re:I must be old now; just don't be an idiot (1)

Baloroth (2370816) | more than 2 years ago | (#38378380)

If you're still young, go be an idiot. That's what college is for, generally.

Just don't throw up pictures of yourself being an idiot on Facebook. Or let you friends do so. In fact, don't have Facebook at all, or have friends whom you (moderately) trust. Hell, I just graduated and I wouldn't generally go drinking without trustworthy friends (certainly not to bars), if only to make sure I got home safely if I had one too many (which may or may not have happened to me, my memory is a little... fuzzy, at times). College student or not, those kinds of pictures can and quite likely will bite you in the ass later in life. Unless you intend to do that sort of thing your whole life, in which case... go right ahead.

Re:I must be old now; just don't be an idiot (5, Insightful)

Mousit (646085) | more than 2 years ago | (#38378438)

You don't have to be an idiot for a picture to be a problem. After all, there was the somewhat recent case (even featured here on Slashdot, sorry I'm too lazy to dig up links) of the kindergarten teacher that was fired over a photo of her at a party, drinking from a cup that allegedly contained alcohol (gasp). She was of course legal, and was doing nothing unusual, merely smiling and drinking, but it was deemed "inappropriate" for her position, whatever the fuck that means.

There's a plethora of such cases. Or the numerous stories (again, featured on Slashdot too) of companies that troll social networking sites (or employ third parties to do so for them) to look up info on applicants and potential hires. Simply being at a party, drinking, is often frowned upon as the companies have outright stated when interviewed on this subject. There's also the issue of not everyone in your social circle may respect your wishes about no pictures (yes, I think that makes them jackasses), and this is especially true of parties where attendants may not all be your personal friends. Friends of friends, acquaintances, the types that are even more especially likely to not know and/or respect your picture wishes.

All of this, of course, are symptoms of a much larger blight on our society, but nonetheless, the point still stands: a picture of you drinking at a party does not necessarily have to show you being an idiot, to affect your life. Especially your professional life.

Re:I must be old now; just don't be an idiot (2)

bryan1945 (301828) | more than 2 years ago | (#38378650)

^^
True those. I didn't feel like breaking down everything; I'd be here all night.

The professional angle is one that is at least, interesting. I've had top level bosses that would get blotted at every company party, and it was officially called "being a character." At the time I was entry level, so I just drank soda, just in case. Some others didn't, and the following week rumors of the boss(es) being displeased were circulating. For things like "Bob had 3(!!!) beers."

And that was for people at the same party. With a picture, you can say whatever you want. As far as I know I have 3 pictures on the internet- one of me with the Lego sea dragon at Disney, one a Christmas family pic, and one with my goddaughter and her godmother. Maybe I'm a dungeon and dragons fanatic!

In conclusion to this ramble, yep, just an innocent pic can bury you if the wrong person sees it. Used to be "if it's not illegal nor hurting anyone, it's cool." Now- "You WILL conform to what I believe is right." Yes, a blight and sad.

Re:I must be old now; just don't be an idiot (1)

wvmarle (1070040) | more than 2 years ago | (#38379452)

You don't have to be an idiot for a picture to be a problem. After all, there was the somewhat recent case (even featured here on Slashdot, sorry I'm too lazy to dig up links) of the kindergarten teacher that was fired over a photo of her at a party, drinking from a cup that allegedly contained alcohol (gasp). She was of course legal, and was doing nothing unusual, merely smiling and drinking, but it was deemed "inappropriate" for her position, whatever the fuck that means.

Sounds more like an employer finding an excuse to get rid of a person they considered either not good at her job, or with whom they simply could not get along personally.

Re:I must be old now; just don't be an idiot (1)

demonlapin (527802) | more than 2 years ago | (#38379840)

You laugh, but I attended an elementary school that was run by a church. Being photographed with alcohol (or something that might be alcohol) in your hands would actually have constituted grounds for firing a teacher.

Re:I must be old now; just don't be an idiot (1)

wvmarle (1070040) | more than 2 years ago | (#38379916)

As a child my parents would take me to church often. Part of the mass was always the braking and sharing of bread and wine. That's alcoholic of course. And when there was some meeting in the evening it would also be quite common to have wine and beer around. Oh well, different church, different culture as well probably.

Re:I must be old now; just don't be an idiot (1)

demonlapin (527802) | more than 2 years ago | (#38380048)

Well, it wasn't a Catholic church. It was the sort of place where consumption of alcohol - at all, ever, in any quantity - was frowned upon. My parents didn't subscribe to the their morality, but it provided an excellent primary education at a very low cost, and it was close - starting in third grade, I rode my bike to and from school unless the weather was bad.

Re:I must be old now; just don't be an idiot (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38378448)

gah.. so many rules, how is one supposed to remember them all! :P

Re:I must be old now; just don't be an idiot (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38378458)

I guess that's the reason why you can join the army at 18 but can't drink until you're 21.

but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38379164)

I guess that's the reason why you can join the army at 18 but can't drink until you're 21.

If you really want to drink legally at 18, you can join the army and get stationed over seas for a few years get out and get a decent paying job with your military training...

Of course at 18, you could also decide to go to college, to drink illegally at off-campus parties, and to major in underwater basket weaving and end up graduating with $100K in debt w/o job prospects...

So your point is? (yes I know your point)

Re:I must be old now; just don't be an idiot (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 2 years ago | (#38378514)

What about people who are just done want their photo taken?

Re:I must be old now; just don't be an idiot (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38378656)

If you're married, don't go out to public places with the prostitute/mistress.

You're talking about responsibility, and you say the stupid part is going outside with the prostitute/mistress.

I LOL'd.. Thanks for that.

Just don't (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38378098)

It's best to just be the type of person who doesn't show up in photographs.

Uh.. (0)

RobinEggs (1453925) | more than 2 years ago | (#38378232)

So I should be a vampire?

I'm cool with that. Geeks are practically vampires already: we hate the sun, we can't score with chicks, we fear running water, and we talk funny.

bite me (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38378126)

A black hole in front of my face would be more effective i guess...but its a start.

WHERE WAS THIS WHEN I GOT MARRIED??!! (1)

Jailbrekr (73837) | more than 2 years ago | (#38378140)

Not of me of course, I was merely an innocent bystander, too afraid of my wifes wrath.

There are other ways! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38378146)

Three much simpler and cheaper solutions:

1. Don't party.
2 Party, but wear a ski mask.
3. Kill the asshole taking pictures.

YMMV

otherwise known as a slave-strobe (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38378210)

It should really be powered by 8 D-cells.

Re:otherwise known as a slave-strobe (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38379282)

It should really be powered by 8 D-cells.

Or, maybe instead invite several scantly clothed model wannabe girlfriends powered w/ D "cells" to your party and nobody will be taking your picture... This is otherwize knows as a slave-girl-disrobe technique...

Does NOT work (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38378216)

The flash will be there but limited to the source and light is DIRECTIONAL so if the source is not in the picture no masking

Re:Does NOT work (1)

pudding7 (584715) | more than 2 years ago | (#38378250)

Also, if the blocker thing is behind the camera, it won't work. Also, if the blocker thing is covered by a cardboard box, it won't work.

Speed Camera's (1)

linatux (63153) | more than 2 years ago | (#38378234)

I always thought a similar device would be good defence against speed camera's - much easier to just not speed though (in my old/slow car)

I want this for my car (5, Interesting)

Joe U (443617) | more than 2 years ago | (#38378252)

Can I get this for my license plates?

Re:I want this for my car (1)

jamesh (87723) | more than 2 years ago | (#38378320)

When was the last time you saw a flash when you got done for speeding?

Re:I want this for my car (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38378362)

when your city has red-light cameras.

Re:I want this for my car (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38378792)

Red light cameras here in the states use a flash to catch your plate.

Re:I want this for my car (1)

imunfair (877689) | more than 2 years ago | (#38379414)

Red light cameras also record video of a few seconds before and after the incident. So if someone is checking the video and theres some way to make out your license plate before the flash (maybe a streetlight or daytime?) - then you'd probably get a ticket for the infraction PLUS I'm sure trying to obscure your plate is ticketable.

Re:I want this for my car (1)

wvmarle (1070040) | more than 2 years ago | (#38379468)

This is old technology in a new packing.

Secondary flashes (or however they're called properly) are used for a very long time: usually in photo shoots where the camera of the photographer shoots a flash aimed at the ceiling, triggering the real flash (or multiple flashlights) that are positioned around the model to provide even lighting. This is the exact same principle, just with the secondary flash aimed at the camera instead.

You should be able to easily build this into your car if you would want to. Put the flash detector in an appropriate spot, set up the flash light, and you're done. But whether it's legal or a good idea - I don't think so.

Re:I want this for my car (2)

clyde_cadiddlehopper (1052112) | more than 2 years ago | (#38379776)

I've been wondering about illuminating my license plate with inexpensive infrared LEDs [superbrightleds.com] at each corner. They won't help during daylight hours, but IR-sensitive night cameras should be rendered useless. Great holiday gift for those with foil hats and hate the thought of automated license plate scanners that are being used to troll traffic for black hats.

If there are two of them in the room, (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38378276)

would the first stray flash trigger a duel to the death?

Re:If there are two of them in the room, (1)

wvmarle (1070040) | more than 2 years ago | (#38379484)

LOL

On a more serious note: no. After a flash or two the capacitors are empty and need to recharge from the batteries, which takes a while (seconds at least - more than enough to break the cycle). A flash can't fire often in quick succession.

Re:If there are two of them in the room, (1)

mdmkolbe (944892) | more than 2 years ago | (#38379538)

I think you've hit upon how to defeat it. Time to start getting suspicious of anyone carrying two cameras.

Re:If there are two of them in the room, (1)

identity0 (77976) | more than 2 years ago | (#38380054)

No, it would make the party an AWESOME MOSH PIT.

Probably easily defeated ... (1)

Paolomania (160098) | more than 2 years ago | (#38378278)

... by any anti-redeye camera that does a pre-flash. However, it is quite successful if considered solely as a promotional tool for this particular beer company.

Re:Probably easily defeated ... (1)

rev0lt (1950662) | more than 2 years ago | (#38378860)

The preflash to to eliminate red eyes is a low intensity one, and often photocell-driven photographic equipment won't fire until the real deal.

Re:Probably easily defeated ... (1)

CaptBubba (696284) | more than 2 years ago | (#38379846)

The red-eye emission is typically a rapidly pulsed emission of much, much lower intensity flashes than the actual flash emission. Setting the trigger level would be pretty easy to do.

I'd be more concerned about the pre-flash used for metering. You normally can barely see it but there are actually two pulses in nearly every camera flash: A pre-flash fires to figure out the reflectivity of the scene so the camera can know how long to fire the main flash. With a bit of bad luck it would be possible that the pre-flash could trigger the cooler flash and leave it without enough stored power for the main flash coming 1/20th of a second later. Of course most likely the effect of the cooler messing with the pre-flash metering would be enough to throw off the exposure of the photograph badly enough to render it useless.

Suckers! (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38378312)

You know it's a computer-generated farce, right? (It's not a real product.)

Denial of Service (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38378368)

What might be really fun is when two of these things are in sight of one another. Then, you set off a flash and they will keep trying to stop each other from taking a picture until their battery wears out.

IR hat (1)

Xaide (1015779) | more than 2 years ago | (#38378396)

What's wrong with just rigging up an infrared ball cap? Why aren't those being sold yet?

So what if there's more than one in one place? (1)

mark-t (151149) | more than 2 years ago | (#38378582)

Imagine for a moment a room where between six to ten people have one of these. Someone snaps a photo, and one goes off. The flash sets off another, which in turn sets of others, and so on, eventually retriggering the first one.

While arguably an interesting light show, I don't think that's an intended behavior.

Re:So what if there's more than one in one place? (1)

camperdave (969942) | more than 2 years ago | (#38378752)

At a techno pub, nobody would notice.

Re:So what if there's more than one in one place? (3, Informative)

rev0lt (1950662) | more than 2 years ago | (#38378780)

It won't work that way. Assuming the device is made as any other professional flash, the speed of the operation will be too fast and the bightness spike duration will be too short to have a cascading effect. I've worked with professional studio flashes, and this behavior don't happen.

Re:So what if there's more than one in one place? (1)

Faux_Pseudo (141152) | more than 2 years ago | (#38378862)

In 2nd Edition we called it Color Spray.

Alternate uses may pop up (3, Interesting)

CaptBubba (696284) | more than 2 years ago | (#38379796)

A pretty good marketing stunt, but I'm sure other uses can be found for this in areas where photos are not desired for privacy reasons.

One that I can think of right away would be at abortion clinics. Many protestors will try to take photographs of the people entering the clinics and then post them online to try and shame them. I'd love to see this sort of tech spoil their day.

Ad Campaign Vaporware (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38379944)

This thing is not on the market, an Argentinian ad agency came up with the idea for a beer company, though the article linked to says they've been distributed to bars across Argentina. http://www.adweek.com/news/advertising-branding/ad-day-norte-beer-136868

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