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Sony's Next-Generation Portable Is Out, In Japan

timothy posted more than 2 years ago | from the people-used-to-wait-in-line-for-concerts dept.

PlayStation (Games) 134

A few months before it's due to arrive in the U.S., Sony's PlayStation Vita, successor to the PlayStation Portable, has been released in Japan. Says the linked Associated Press article: "For the Tokyo-based electronics and entertainment giant, the Vita is the biggest product launch since the PlayStation 3 console five years ago. It's also accompanied by two dozen software products — the largest number of launch titles in PlayStation history. The Vita has front and back cameras, a touchscreen in front, a touch pad on the back and two knob-like joysticks. It will enable gamers to play against each other using PlayStation 3 consoles over the Internet-based PlayStation Network, a system that was hit with a massive hacking attack earlier this year."

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Simple "will I buy it" test. (3, Interesting)

pecosdave (536896) | more than 2 years ago | (#38415356)

There's a simple test I put electronics through before I buy them - it reads something like this:

Does it need a data port?

Y - Go to next step
N - Star weighing other details

Does it have a Micro USB port?

Y - Star weighing other details
N - Go to next step.

Does it have a Mini USB port?

Y - Star weighing other details
N - Go to next step.

Does it have a Full sized USB port?

Y - Star weighing other details
N - Go to next step.

Does it have a six pin Firewire port?

Y - Star weighing other details
N - Go to next step.

Does it have a four pin Fiewire port?

Y - Star weighing other details
N - DON'T BUY THE DAMNED THING

Playstation Vita fails this simple test. It's also why I passed on the Galaxy Tab. I really don't need to carry any more cables with me.

Re:Simple "will I buy it" test. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38415384)

Geek or not, if the price is right you WILL buy it.

Re:Simple "will I buy it" test. (5, Insightful)

Nursie (632944) | more than 2 years ago | (#38415396)

Why?

It could cost $5 and I wouldn't buy it because it comes stamped with 'Sony' on the front. Screw that and screw them.

On top of which there's a whole new proprietary memory card format! Hooray!

Re:Simple "will I buy it" test. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38415588)

A more important question ... why do obese black women smell like stale marshmallows? Do they have to work at it in some way by using liberal amounts of some kind of lotion? Or is it natural? Sure ok that's off-topic but where else can I ask something like that? If I wanted to be offensive I'd use words other than "obese" and "black" but it's a real question, I really want to know why they do.

Re:Simple "will I buy it" test. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38415824)

hmm i really like how SKINNY black girls look (but have never even met a black girl in person - i am not from USA) do only fat black girls have this strange smell, or also pretty/skinny ones (want to know since i wanted to try online dating to find some)?

Re:Simple "will I buy it" test. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38417950)

I've not experienced the stale marshmallow scent. It's usually chicken wings and cocoa butter.

Re:Simple "will I buy it" test. (1)

PopeRatzo (965947) | more than 2 years ago | (#38415622)

It could cost $5 and I wouldn't buy it because it comes stamped with 'Sony' on the front. Screw that and screw them.

I've thought about that.

I've decided that if it cost $5 I would buy it, but only if the original, MSRP was > $250.

I would buy it as celebration of a small victory. Perhaps hang it on my wall.

Re:Simple "will I buy it" test. (1)

Sniper98G (1078397) | more than 2 years ago | (#38416626)

But proprietary media formats have worked out so well for Sony in the past. Every time I go to the store I take a look at all the betamax tapes, mini discs and UMDs, and think man where would we be without these.

Re:Simple "will I buy it" test. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38417824)

But proprietary media formats have worked out so well for Sony in the past. Every time I go to the store I take a look at all the betamax tapes, mini discs and UMDs, and think man where would we be without these.

And what about the Blueray discs?

Re:Simple "will I buy it" test. (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 2 years ago | (#38418060)

PlayStation, PlayStation 2, and PlayStation 3 have proprietary media formats, based on CD, DVD, and BD respectively, so that the general public cannot make and self-publish games without going through Sony Computer Entertainment.

Re:Simple "will I buy it" test. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38417044)

A kindrid spirit! Sony has at many turns shown that it does not have a grasp of corporate ethics. They do not need my business and I do not need their products (including their music).

Re:Simple "will I buy it" test. (1)

Goaway (82658) | more than 2 years ago | (#38418046)

Yes, it's just so hard to find someone who hates Sony on Slashdot!

Re:Simple "will I buy it" test. (1)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 2 years ago | (#38415756)

No I wont. It's why the PSP Go was a utter failure and people bought older PSP's or switched to the DS.

Sony is doing stupid things, people DONT WANT Download only games because they like selling them used. Battlefield 3 had a HUGE used turn in when MW3 came out.

Sony hates used game sales. Sony hates gamers.

Re:Simple "will I buy it" test. (1)

SScorpio (595836) | more than 2 years ago | (#38416368)

The Vita can only run digital version of PSP games since it doesn't have a UMD drive. But Vita games are available day one as digital or you can go to a store and buy it on a small cartridge. So how will this kill off used game sales?

Re:Simple "will I buy it" test. (0)

Gravatron (716477) | more than 2 years ago | (#38416556)

Sony doesn't hate gamers, Sony hates pirates. Pirates are the most self-entitles scum there is.

Re:Simple "will I buy it" test. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38417092)

Sony doesn't hate gamers, Sony hates pirates. Pirates are the most self-entitles scum there is.

If Sony doesn't hate gamers why do they continue to use Securom?

Re:Simple "will I buy it" test. (3, Insightful)

NeutronCowboy (896098) | more than 2 years ago | (#38417858)

Sony doesn't hate pirates, because pirates are cheap and never pay for anything. Sony does hate the second-hate market though, because these people are willing to pay money for a game, but Sony doesn't see a red cent of it.

That's why nearly all recent games, and every major title in the past year, has had download-only content in it right from the start. And by the way, Sony isn't the only one doing this.

Re:Simple "will I buy it" test. (1)

Cinder6 (894572) | more than 2 years ago | (#38418024)

The industry has worked fine for decades with used games. Why is it only now a problem?

Re:Simple "will I buy it" test. (1)

epyT-R (613989) | more than 2 years ago | (#38418056)

actually no. it's sony that is. they think they should be entitled to post sale usage patterns. this attitude creates pirates

Re:Simple "will I buy it" test. (3, Funny)

orphiuchus (1146483) | more than 2 years ago | (#38417274)

Sony doesn't hate gamers, they just have absolutely no respect for them.

Re:Simple "will I buy it" test. (1)

muon-catalyzed (2483394) | more than 2 years ago | (#38417844)

So you want to waste your precious time messing with those used cards? I personally prefer to download everything from PSN, don't want to have another dust collecting stuff around me to shuffle around. Now, thanks to people like you I can't just download Skyrim off PSN.

Cap (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 2 years ago | (#38418086)

Now, thanks to people like you I can't just download Skyrim off PSN.

Is it that, or is it thanks to people like the U.S. home ISPs that spend money on monthly transfer cap enforcement measures instead of on improving their network capacity? Retail PS3 games on BD-ROM are in the double-digit gigabytes and already exceed some home ISPs' monthly caps.

Re:Simple "will I buy it" test. (2)

TheLink (130905) | more than 2 years ago | (#38416310)

1) The smart phones and tablets will kill this - lots of games on them. Worse if bluetooth gaming controllers/joysticks become popular or get bundled with some games.
2) It's Sony. Many slashdotters won't buy Sony anymore.

But yeah if the price is negative USD200 I'd buy it. Call me a sell-out but the USD200 will be nice in my drive upgrade/replacement fund :).

Re:Simple "will I buy it" test. (1)

Burning1 (204959) | more than 2 years ago | (#38417146)

If the price was -$200, I'd buy as many as the store stocked, from every store in the area. ;)

Re:Simple "will I buy it" test. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38415406)

Does it need a data port?

...

Playstation Vita fails this simple test. It's also why I passed on the Galaxy Tab. I really don't need to carry any more cables with me.

I'd have said N there. You got wifi, bluetooth and optionally 3G, no need to plug it anywhere else.

Re:Simple "will I buy it" test. (1)

pecosdave (536896) | more than 2 years ago | (#38415494)

You still have to charge it somehow.

I might make an exception for a simple round connection like the PSP-2000 had, but not for a "multi-use port".

Re:Simple "will I buy it" test. (1)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 2 years ago | (#38415768)

So it works on magical air charging?

USB charge port or it is a complete FAIL.

Re:Simple "will I buy it" test. (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38415472)

You forgot one step:
Is it a SONY product? Y - move along, nothing to see here.

(Sorry, but it has not been long enough to forget the last screw up.)

Re:Simple "will I buy it" test. (1)

Trepidity (597) | more than 2 years ago | (#38415502)

As a programmer, something about the way this conditional logic is specified makes me twitch.

Re:Simple "will I buy it" test. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38415526)

Why?
It looks like a simple case statement to me.

Re:Simple "will I buy it" test. (1)

thegarbz (1787294) | more than 2 years ago | (#38415542)

It looks like a simple case statement to me.

Are those rose coloured glasses or can you not tell good code from a bad?

Re:Simple "will I buy it" test. (1)

Bobakitoo (1814374) | more than 2 years ago | (#38415556)

Why? It looks like a simple case statement to me.

Fall-through switch is so taboo!

Re:Simple "will I buy it" test. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38415706)

Why?
It looks like a simple case statement to me.

Fall-through switch is so taboo!

Who says?

One of your CS professors? Did he also say GOTOs were "bad" too?

If you put 10 different CS professors in a room and ask them how to implement something, you'll get 11 different opinions.

I see waaayyyy too many times software that has a huge footprint and slower than molasses on a February Toronto morning because someone had to code it the "right" way.

It's good software if: it works as designed, it's easily maintained, and it's efficient. Everything else is just opinion and ego.

Re:Simple "will I buy it" test. (1)

cheekyjohnson (1873388) | more than 2 years ago | (#38415714)

Everything else is just opinion

Even the fact that it's "good" software!

Not in near real time coding it isn't (1)

Kupfernigk (1190345) | more than 2 years ago | (#38415724)

A properly designed fall through switch (commented, obviously) is an extremely efficient decision structure. If someone tells me at an interview that they would never use it because it is bad form, I immediately ask them if they have ever done any real time or high throughput programming. The answer is always no.

Re:Not in near real time coding it isn't (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38416096)

real time or high throughput programming

Hell, even in basic stuff, I've got a billion switches that fall through. For instance, a customer wants to see what something is going to cost before they close the ticket?

case VIEWTICKET:
    preview=1;
case CLOSETICKET:
    if (!preview) {
        take_money();
        close_ticket();
    }
    print_receipt();
    break;

Can't count the number of "dry run" things I've written in the 10 years since I graduated that sets a flag and then falls through to the normal process.

Re:Simple "will I buy it" test. (2)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 2 years ago | (#38415784)

And anyone that has programmed robotics knows that only the newbies don't put in a fall through switch. Failure to use those will = damaged hardware or death to someone.

you ALWAYS do a fall through safety.

Re:Simple "will I buy it" test. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38417966)

That is in theory. However, there are two laws things are made by nowadays:

1: Make it as cheap as possible.
2: Let the lawyers and the paid off legal system defend #1.

Re:Simple "will I buy it" test. (1)

pecosdave (536896) | more than 2 years ago | (#38415576)

Can't make a flow chart on Slashdot.......

Re:Simple "will I buy it" test. (3, Informative)

Megane (129182) | more than 2 years ago | (#38415822)

As a programmer, something about the way this conditional logic is specified makes me twitch.

It's s/star/start/g that makes me twitch. If you're going to copy and paste something six times, you could at least notice that you've left a letter off.

Re:Simple "will I buy it" test. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38415792)

Because you totally need a firewire port on a portable gaming console? What the hell?

Re:Simple "will I buy it" test. (1)

pecosdave (536896) | more than 2 years ago | (#38415872)

It's a data interface that can be used for communications. Not only is it a data interface if properly implemented Firewire can do up to 30V 1.5A, talk about charging. I know it's not everyone's favorite interface, but I find having daisy chaining as an option is nice, but if I prefer not to I can use separate ports, the fact there's next to no processor overhead to use it is nice. The fact I can buy 5" cables for daisy chaining makes really makes wire management simple and clean, and I can use every one of my Firewire drives at once with little perceptible slow down.

If it came with Firewire that would be good enough for me, because I like it. I think it would be a stupid move on the part of the manufacturer considering USB has pretty much won that war, but it meets my criteria. My desktop and two out of my three laptops support it, and I happen to have a Firewire car charger, it's right there with USB in my world of convenience.

Re:Simple "will I buy it" test. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38417428)

will you mac idiots ever stop whining.

realize that not everyone wants a computer that serves as the technological equivalent of a designer handbag or a fisher price toy.

Re:Simple "will I buy it" test. (1)

marcello_dl (667940) | more than 2 years ago | (#38416312)

My implementation deals with a corner case.
"Does the hardware maker's site loads some homepage elements apparently fine and then smacks a "javascript is required" DIV in front?
Keep noscript and surf somewhere else."

Re:Simple "will I buy it" test. (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38416344)

Which part of your test considers whether or not the attached keyboard has a "t" key?

Re:Simple "will I buy it" test. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38416624)

Here's my simple test:

PS Vita looks like a product made for teenagers. I'm in my 40s. Yep I won't purchase that.

(you can post "get off my lawn" now if you wish kiddies)

Re:Simple "will I buy it" test. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38417308)

Even simpler test.

Made by Sony?

Y-Don't Buy It.

Maybe you folks are willing to forgive the rootkit episode...I am not. Recent events have only reinforced my conviction to never again buy a Sony product.

Re:Simple "will I buy it" test. (0)

Galestar (1473827) | more than 2 years ago | (#38417560)

I think its the opposite for most everyone else. They ask the following questions.
Does it have Firewire? Yes - Fuck that, move on.
Does it have USB? Yes - Awesome lets see what else it has...

A good thing? (4, Interesting)

lyinhart (1352173) | more than 2 years ago | (#38415370)

Somehow this seems a little irrelevant, considering the boon of gaming on mobile phones and an economy that makes people think twice of buying a separate portable gaming system.

Re:A good thing? (1)

broknstrngz (1616893) | more than 2 years ago | (#38415390)

You apply good ol' fashioned logic where there usually is none. Nowadays, people mostly buy things because they are affordable, not because they are necessary. If this gizmo is affordable, it will sell.

Re:A good thing? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38415444)

When has a game console ever been necessary?

Re:A good thing? (2)

shione (666388) | more than 2 years ago | (#38415504)

Exactly. That is why the results of this devices sales will win/lose regardless how well mobile phones perform.

With Sony having a foot in android phones as well it keeps them covered in both markets.

For serious gaming there is nothing that beats tactile feedback from real buttons and controls. How many times have you played a FPS on a touchscreen and had to adjust the positioning of your thumb because its moved off the touch directional pad?

Re:A good thing? (1)

thegarbz (1787294) | more than 2 years ago | (#38415580)

For serious gaming ...

Nothing beats sitting at the couch or infront of a gaming rig.

People bought Gameboys not to do serious gaming (or ok I'll say some did, but I doubt they'd support the platform on their own). People bought Gameboys to get them through a boring bus ride to school, or to kill some time waiting for a train. I used to see Gameboys, DSes PSPs and all sorts of hand held gaming consoles on my daily commute to uni. These days all I see is people playing Angry Birds.

I'm willing to bet that people don't buy these things to play a hardcore FPS. They buy these things just to have some casual fun that can kill 20minutes. The FPS element or any other element requiring the tactile feedback of a D-Pad can easily be replaced with some other game type which could still serve the same fun purpose.

Just my guess anyway. I don't see this taking off. But hey I'm not a CEO.

Re:A good thing? (1)

Turbine2k5 (2531842) | more than 2 years ago | (#38415596)

I'm willing to bet that people don't buy these things to play a hardcore FPS. They buy these things just to have some casual fun that can kill 20minutes.

So why are people spending $200-$500 on these things, when they can pick up some casual games off the App Store/Android Market for $0-$5 a pop?

Re:A good thing? (2, Insightful)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 2 years ago | (#38415802)

Because contrary to what apple and google wants you to think, Game controls on phones suck.

Go ahead and play Rage on the iphone or Ipad.. it's frustrating as hell.

Re:A good thing? (2)

TheLink (130905) | more than 2 years ago | (#38416394)

Does stuff like this help? http://www.icontrolpad.com/ [icontrolpad.com]

If the prices go down and stuff like this becomes popular for Android and Apple stuff I think the portable gaming console market is going to die and be completely replaced by the phones and pads.

Re:A good thing? (1)

blackraven14250 (902843) | more than 2 years ago | (#38417382)

I don't think so. That becomes another gadget to carry around, as it's not even like it can fold in with the iPhone and reduce its footprint.

Re:A good thing? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38416946)

Go ahead and play Rage on the iphone or Ipad.. it's frustrating as hell.

That seems rather appropriate.

Re:A good thing? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38417986)

Agreed. Some games require physical controllers. Loving thr new connectivity in Sony's tablet update though. Considering buying one if ics hits it.

Re:A good thing? (1)

anonymov (1768712) | more than 2 years ago | (#38416566)

Some do, but a) controls and battery life still tend to be better on portables, b) there are hugely popular titles that are still exclusive to portables (can't say much about Sony, but here's a hint for one of examples on Nintendo - it starts with "Pok" and ends with "mon")

Re:A good thing? (1)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 2 years ago | (#38415794)

I dont care what the platform... FPS's SUCK on a portable. the PSP was the best portable yet for FPS and it still sucked, the analog stick on the PSP is garbage.

Re:A good thing? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38415862)

I dont care what the platform... FPS's SUCK on a portable.

Not Quake or The Warlock of Firetop Mountain on the DS - controlling looking with the stylus!

Re:A good thing? (1)

PopeRatzo (965947) | more than 2 years ago | (#38415828)

If this gizmo is affordable, it will sell.

"Affordable" is a slippery term.

Personally, I cannot afford to support a company like Sony. I'm not sure we can afford to have companies behave the way Sony behaves. So no Sony product is "affordable".

Re:A good thing? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38415422)

The problem with gaming on a phone is the controls _suck_. Have you tried playing a game using a tilt controlling while on shakey public transport? Does not work. It is fine while I am sitting at home, but that isn't the point of having a mobile device. Also touch screens a lot of gamers' cup of tea.

Re:A good thing? (3)

wrencherd (865833) | more than 2 years ago | (#38415432)

Somehow this seems a little irrelevant, considering the boon of gaming on mobile phones and an economy that makes people think twice of buying a separate portable gaming system.

I have to agree that "gaming" is becoming a redundant function.

The first reaction to something like the Vita has to be, "What else does it do?"

Re:A good thing? (2)

shione (666388) | more than 2 years ago | (#38415564)

You can listen to music, browse the internet (has html5 support), go on youtwitface, watch movies, read ebooks I guess. Basically the same stuff as a smartphone minus gps and phone features and in a bigger form factor but the gaming experience should be better. It runs a arm chip so I wouldnt be surprised if somebody manages port android to it like they've done with a ipod touch.

Re:A good thing? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38415820)

Well actually, there is GPS features on the networked version (not the wi-fi one)
Technically there could be phone features to a very limited extent if you used, say, Skype, or whatever.

There is an appstore on this thing, right?
If so, probably more communication methods rather than people depending on browser access.
Although I wonder if most people would buy them since the types who would buy the console in the first place aren't typically of the lazy and quite thick people who buy apps left, right and center "just because"
Most will be like "I can access it through browser+bookmarks, why would I buy an app to do that for me?"

Re:A good thing? (2)

Megane (129182) | more than 2 years ago | (#38415840)

Good luck jailbreaking it first. That's one of the reasons they're completely breaking away from the old PSP architecture other than more or less keeping the same form factor.

Re:A good thing? (1)

Legion303 (97901) | more than 2 years ago | (#38416986)

SKFU has already run homebrew ("hello world") on it. Sony just changed the old AES key they were using, but since this is Sony, there is undoubtedly more fail inbound.

Re:A good thing? (1)

CityZen (464761) | more than 2 years ago | (#38417912)

This is a sign that you are getting old. Time to buy a nose-hair trimmer.

Re:A good thing? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38415582)

The casual market is NOT the gaming market.
Quit thinking it is and that they cannot exist together.
I'm seriously sick of reading "IPAD IS KILLING DEDICATED GAMING HARDWARE" or other such retarded nonsense.

Cannot believe you even got to +4.

Re:A good thing? (1)

loufoque (1400831) | more than 2 years ago | (#38415694)

Right, because iPhone/Android games are really comparable to PSP or Vita ones.
And a touchscreen is better than an actual keypad or a joystick too I suppose.

Another 'Dependent' Product (3, Insightful)

WrongSizeGlass (838941) | more than 2 years ago | (#38415426)

It will enable gamers to play against each other using PlayStation 3 consoles over the Internet-based PlayStation Network

Just like RIM's PlayBook, the Vita requires another expensive manufacture & platform specific product to be able to use its full capabilities. This isn't as bad as RIM's requirement for a BlackBerry just to be able to get email, but this type of forced dependency is never good for the consumer.

Re:Another 'Dependent' Product (2)

Gravatron (716477) | more than 2 years ago | (#38416578)

You don't need a ps3 for online play you know, no more then you needed one for the PSP. You can just play over normal wireless if you so chose, provided your in range of a network or hotspot. The PSvita does support playing against ps3 games in certain games though, a first for a handheld.

No clue.. (1)

crossmr (957846) | more than 2 years ago | (#38415470)

If it wasn't for piracy the PSP wouldn't have sold. Sony has admitted that in at least one interview. Yet they continually tried to lock it down.
That was a handheld that was only $200.. I've seen prices around $500 for this. Sony just doesn't seem to have a clue. The PSP Go was a huge hit for them too

Re:No clue.. (1)

Kiraxa (1840002) | more than 2 years ago | (#38415506)

The PSP in general is the best selling non-Nintendo handheld, ever. Its a pretty big accomplishment. Sony has quite a big clue as to what they're doing, and are scaring the pants off Nintendo while they do it (See: Nintendo price dropping the 3DS a week after announcing that the Vita launch price is == 3ds launch price, well before nintendo normally price drops.)

Re:No clue.. (1)

crossmr (957846) | more than 2 years ago | (#38415762)

Do you know anything about the PSP?
What other competition was there really? Nintendo and Sony, no one else in the game, not hard to be number 2.
There were a lot of times when no games were being released for the PSP and the only thing keeping sales going was people hacking it for homebrew/piracy

Re:No clue.. (1, Insightful)

antifoidulus (807088) | more than 2 years ago | (#38415936)

Um, 2006 called, they want their stereotypes back. The PSP did get off to a rough start, and a lot of early adopters bought it to play pirated games, but overall game sales are around 300 million for roughly 70 million sold, or about 4 games/console, and I don't think that includes downloadable sales, which would push the total higher. Plus I'm sure that even though 70 million consoles were sold, they weren't sold to 70 million different people, due to the huge # of hardware variations there are probably a significant number of people who bought more than 1 version of the console, pushing the games per gamer up even higher.

Re:No clue.. (1)

CanEHdian (1098955) | more than 2 years ago | (#38417448)

The PSP did get off to a rough start, and a lot of early adopters bought it to play pirated games,

Where did you get that? I remember a modified "Lumines" and maybe a few others that had hardcoded pathnames changed from the UMD to the memory card, but those were the exception. At the start, memorystick pro duo cards were very expensive. Fact is that there was a very successful homebrew scene (especially for those that remained on v1.50 firmware). Only when ISO-loaders came out, years into the PSP's life, piracy became a problem.

Re:No clue.. (1)

heinousjay (683506) | more than 2 years ago | (#38417426)

Nintendo wasn't scared of the PSP, they were scared of Apple's amazingly successful iDevices.

Sony is about to taste third place in yet another market. Heaven help them if Microsoft ever figures out their mobile strategy.

Re:No clue.. (1)

Narishma (822073) | more than 2 years ago | (#38416178)

The Vita will cost $250 when it launches, the same price the PSP and 3DS started with. The $500 you're seeing is for devices imported from Japan.

Re:No clue.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38417550)

Yet they continually tried to lock it down.

And with good reason. I can tell you first hand that CFW killed the PSP multiplayer community. CFW allows 'gamegenie' type homebrew to be run. It is not fun having people running around with infinite health or sniping people from outside the map or being insta kicked out of a match w/o going through a vote. I've seen the Socom FTB die as a result of CFW v2.80 being released. It went from 30,000 users to ~500 users online in just a couple months.

Re:No clue.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38417708)

It is not fun having people running around with infinite health or sniping people from outside the map or being insta kicked out of a match w/o going through a vote.

You say that like if it's not developer's fault for writing crappy code in the first place.

Programming a game to behave like this is kinda like playing poker and just handing over the chips whenever someone says "I've got royal flush!" without looking at the cards (and disregarding you've got a face card from each suit on the hand as well)

Re:No clue.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38417852)

Doesnt matter what kind of code the programmers write when the firmware can just overwrite the RAM at the hardware level.

Re:No clue.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38418028)

... On the other player's side? Sorry, but it doesn't work this way.

Properly written P2P-model networked soft can at least detect and flag cheats and client-server model won't even let most cheats to live (unless the cheater is the server)

Inifinite health in multiplayer is failure to grasp basics on developer's side. Wallhack and aimbot style cheats is a completely different beast, but still catchable without full lockdown of the platform.

All I want (1)

MrDoh! (71235) | more than 2 years ago | (#38415544)

Is more revisions to their xperia play. This should be a phone of some sort. Doesn't have to be Android (though preferred). Just a cool gaming device, with proper controls, that can also make phone calls.

Re:All I want (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38416098)

I love my Xperia Play. Yeah, your fancy dual-core phone may be able to run emulators like a champ, but mine? I can actually play the damn games without wanting to hulk smash the thing into the ground.

My only problem is the stupid glossy finish. It feels like I'm holding a bar of soap.

A Question with a Question (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38415550)

If one goes to the official PSVITA FAQ section on Sony's website, one can see this interesting screw-up:

>Q: Can the PSVITA's output be displayed on a TV?

>A: Can the PSVITA's output be displayed on a TV?

http://jp-playstation.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/12268/p/1251/page/3/r_id/100001

I found this because I was genuinely curious about this feature and Googled for it, only to find this. Apparently, 2chan is getting a laugh out of it.

A lot of other complaints about the VITA are already piling up from Japanese gamers. This release, abundant software or not, is going to be as flaky and pit-fall ridden as any other.

Q: but does it run linux? (2)

Gravis Zero (934156) | more than 2 years ago | (#38415630)

A: Cease and Desist letter.

Any gamblers here? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38415684)

Quote from above:
"It will enable gamers to play against each other using PlayStation 3 consoles over the Internet-based PlayStation Network..."

This is a nice feature, but is is just streaming video from another machine. Not to difficult as long a you have the bandwidth. Who want's to lay a bet down that it won't stream the next gen PlayStation console games without either an expensive software upgrade or brand new hardware. The hell with Sony and others with their proprietary hardware and locked down software. I will go play Tux Racer on and old P3 first thank you very much.

Controls... (1)

misterjjones (1331965) | more than 2 years ago | (#38415860)

"The Vita has front and back cameras, a touchscreen in front, a touch pad on the back and two knob-like joysticks."

Who's their target audience? An octopus?

Re:Controls... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38416738)

Yay, tentacles.

Re:Controls... (1)

SixGunMojo (177687) | more than 2 years ago | (#38417144)

Yay, tentacles.

Can't tell if seen enough hentai

(-_-)

Or not enough

SmartPhones Up - Sony Down (1)

BoRegardless (721219) | more than 2 years ago | (#38415902)

Progress happens. Fewer devices, cables, parts, total cost. Phones and their tablet kin have more uses and allow gaming to be done by even more people than before, but Sony doesn't want to believe it.

Re:SmartPhones Up - Sony Down (1)

Gravatron (716477) | more than 2 years ago | (#38416612)

Different styles of games yo. I've had a smartphone for years but very very rarely are the games worth playing for more then 5 minutes, mostly being on the level of newgrounds java games. 3DS and Vita looks are much more substantial in terms of design and depth. Both devices are also showing multiple capabilities beyond games, such as movies, photo, and in the vita's case, apps.

Rear touchpad is a good idea... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38416446)

I should know, I came up with it over a year ago and emailed it to Motorola's customer support in march.

androidtrieste@gmail.com

This has Skype (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38416668)

Skype on it make it pretty epic with google voice texting or online texting from your regular provider. It might be usable as a phone and a gaming machine.

Re: people-used-to-wait-in-line-for-concerts dept (1)

guttentag (313541) | more than 2 years ago | (#38416900)

They still do, but only at Microsoft Store grand openings [electronista.com] .

Connection for controlling PS3 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38416952)

So it's a neat concept to be able to control your PS3 and play the games while away from your console. However, there is no way in hell a 3g connection is going to support this feature in the slightest. Try loading google on 3g... now just imagine the amount of data streaming to link games.

Battery not user-replaceable! (1)

CanEHdian (1098955) | more than 2 years ago | (#38417400)

Be warned, you cannot change the battery yourself (officially). I have a 2005 PSP-1000 (USA/Canada) and it's currently on it's third battery (1 original, 2 high-capacity), and I'm just an occasional player. The device is working perfectly, and because of the new battery holds it charge fine. If the battery had not been replaceable I'd either have a portable player I can use for 30 minutes, or use it off an AC adapter, or throw it out and buy a new one. Sony's "solution" (after the Ah-oh moment) is an external battery pack.
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