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Taliban Seizes and Burns PCs, Cell Phones To Stop Obscenity

timothy posted more than 2 years ago | from the all-nude-all-streisand-effect dept.

Censorship 294

retroworks writes "As translated from Central Asia Online, Cellular News reports that militants from South Waziristan set ablaze about 300 cellular phones and a number of computers in Wana because the devices were allegedly used to spread obscene materials. Prior to taking the action, they gave everyone fair warning with 'leaflets.' 300 cell phones down, 5 or 6 billion to go.

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hmm.. (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38478974)

I know association that would be happy to do the same here in the US.

Re:hmm.. (3, Interesting)

InterestingFella (2537066) | more than 2 years ago | (#38479034)

U.S. already does. 18 year limit for natural love making, but violence is all good! Then when someone does weird porn that minority like (and doesn't hurt anyone), like shitting in mouth, they jail those responsible for filming it. Land of hypocrites.

Ya... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38479088)

I even got a speeding ticket last week! Cop asked, "You know what the speed limit is?"

I answered: "Um, somewhere around 186,000 miles per second?"

Go on, find some law you hate and then freely make absurd comparisons...

Re:Ya... (5, Funny)

meerling (1487879) | more than 2 years ago | (#38479374)

How dare you make light of the situation. :)

I'm betting not a lot of cops will get your joke. :(

Re:Ya... (1)

skogula (931230) | more than 2 years ago | (#38479492)

These aren't the droids you're looking for.

Re:Ya... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38479664)

They probably would be in the dark.

Re:Ya... (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38479720)

Traffic cops aren't usually the brightest.

Re:hmm.. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38479400)

Proudly brought to you by CIA.

"Allegations of connection to CIA There have been many claims that the CIA directly supported the Taliban or Al-Qaeda. In the early 1980s, the CIA and the ISI (Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence agency) provided arms and money, and the ISI helped gather radical Muslims from around the world to fight against the Soviet invaders."

Okay, let's examine that decision (1, Flamebait)

OeLeWaPpErKe (412765) | more than 2 years ago | (#38479532)

So given that there were 2 sides fighting, which side do you suggest America should have supported ?
a) the Soviets, a communist government that ran extermination camps that killed about 10 times more people than the holocaust, was starting wars left and right, built up a force of thousands of nukes that were deployed in the configuration they thought would kill the maximum number of Americans, and threathened the lives and freedom of more than a billion human beings, in both Europe and Asia and America.
b) a lunatic, local band of mohammedan theocrats (at that point in time muslim was not the term used), with grand dreams, for running religious genocides amongst other things. And at this point in time unable to resist (a), but with a little help they can open a front against (a) which will in the end weaken both them and (a)

Is this a tactical decision that doesn't stand up to moral perfection ? Of course. It sacrificed the lives of a few tens of thousands to massively improve the safety of hundreds of millions for decades.

How about we apply a moral standard to this ? Actions like war and even killing are never justified, but when you're confronted with lots of bad choices, all of which are unjustified, you take the least bad one you can find. Even if it is starting a war. The people making this decision certainly thought so.

Or how about the atheist standard ? Clearly it was critical to the success of America to stop the Soviets. Supporting this moronic genocidal faith was cheaper than fighting the Soviets directly, so it was justified. The numbers are very clear : supporting the paedophilic theocrats pays off better than any other option. Therefore : justified.

You are attempting to use very general and naive "moral rules", or maybe even legal rules, in situations where they do not apply.

Re:Okay, let's examine that decision (3, Informative)

Cyberax (705495) | more than 2 years ago | (#38479564)

"a) the Soviets, a communist government that ran extermination camps that killed about 10 times more people than the holocaust,"

WTF?!? Nazis have killed around 20 million people in the USSR during the WWII. There's simply no way Stalin could have killed 10 times more people.

Re:Okay, let's examine that decision (2, Interesting)

Concerned Onlooker (473481) | more than 2 years ago | (#38479616)

The parent commenter was probably taking pop statistics to calculate that. Figure 6 millions Jews killed (which is not the whole story) and the use the 60 million figure that is commonly touted for Stalin (which is way overestimated according to anything I've read about it; that doesn't make it less heinous, however).

Re:Okay, let's examine that decision (4, Insightful)

flaming error (1041742) | more than 2 years ago | (#38479658)

Or how about a third option:

c) do nothing

The Taliban didn't need our help. Our psychopathic drive to jump into every conflict on earth (ok, maybe we largely ignore Africa) is a big part of why America is bankrupt and widely despised.

Re:Okay, let's examine that decision (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38479702)

So given that there were 2 sides fighting, which side do you suggest America should have supported ?

Neither, because it's none of our business?

Re:Okay, let's examine that decision (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38479704)

Holy crap, a well thought non-knee jerk reply to a topic without a single wikipedia reference to imply authoratitive knowledge on a subject. I'm blown away. Did I wake up and log on to the Al Gore invented, kiddies run amock Internet, or some sick parallel universe where people civiliy discuss topics in a mature way? Kidding aside, great reply. It's easy to sit behind a computer and type BS, when your words or lack of action don't cause thousands to die. Unfortunately, outside actors have forced us into situations where we have to chose between a few hundred fighting or a few million dying. Both will lead to loss of life. If you want an example of what happens when we DO NOT take action, look at Pres Clinton and Africa (Mogadisu to be specific). We bailed because he couldn't accept the political fallout of a few Americans dying, and now millions still die there. So which is better? Me? I am biased since I am a Capt in the Air Force, writing this from Afghanistan. Obviously, I advocate good men taking action to stop evil men from killing.

Re:Okay, let's examine that decision (1)

Daniel Dvorkin (106857) | more than 2 years ago | (#38479756)

So given that there were 2 sides fighting, which side do you suggest America should have supported ?

How about "a plague on both your houses"? We don't need to take sides in every fight, you know; in fact, in most fights, we shouldn't.

They took mine. (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38478978)

I knew I shouldn't have browsed that one site where a woman showed her ankle!

Re:They took mine. (-1, Troll)

rbmyers (587296) | more than 2 years ago | (#38479214)

Ha. Ha. Ha.

Do you *seriously* think this is about the Taliban and showing a bit of ankle?

The "shouting fire in a crowded theater" exception to the FIRST amendment to the U.S. Constitution is a legal hole big enough to drive whatever you want through it, whether it's the local vice squad, or some agency of government, or the entire U.S. military, if it comes down to it.

The Taliban are not different in any way that matters. They want to control people, and to control people, they want to control the flow of information. Obscenity is, always has been, and always will be just an excuse. It's amazing the way the same trick works over and over and over again.

Re:They took mine. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38479262)

Take a chill pill.
It was a joke.
Ass

Re:They took mine. (2)

redkcir (1431605) | more than 2 years ago | (#38479462)

Still got that link?

Re:They took mine. (0)

tsa (15680) | more than 2 years ago | (#38479714)

Is that why I had to say "Yes I'm over 17" before I could download Opera for my iPhone?

Oh noes (2, Funny)

Osgeld (1900440) | more than 2 years ago | (#38478982)

burn the devil box, it showed the chin of a female!

If they were smart they would burn the internet ...

Re:Oh noes (1)

The Grim Reefer (1162755) | more than 2 years ago | (#38479062)

burn the devil box, it showed the chin of a female!

Not even. It probably showed a female learning basic addition.

If they were smart they would burn the internet ...

By who's definition of "smart"? If they were smart they'd burn themselves in order to escape the atrocities of the world. You know, things like education, equal rights for women, free will, etc. Pure evil. [rolls eyes]

Re:Oh noes (5, Interesting)

houstonbofh (602064) | more than 2 years ago | (#38479172)

No need. The US Congress is racing to do that for them. (I wish this was a joke)

Close... (5, Interesting)

msauve (701917) | more than 2 years ago | (#38479524)

"Taliban Seizes and Burns PCs, Cell Phones To Stop Obscenity"

Contrast with:
US Government Seizes and Burns DNS domains, To Stop Copyright Infringement.

Discuss.

Re:Oh noes (5, Insightful)

jd2112 (1535857) | more than 2 years ago | (#38479182)

If they were smart they would burn the internet ...

We' ll take care of that with SOPA.

Re:Oh noes (1)

skids (119237) | more than 2 years ago | (#38479642)

Aside from the obvious authoritarian fanaticism problem, someone needs to tell these asshats that when cost-plus contractors threw electronics in pits and burn them, it's not because they were environmentally safe to burn, it's just because cost-plus contractors don't give a crap about the environment "over there."

Idiots. (2)

Tolkien (664315) | more than 2 years ago | (#38478986)

Because destroying the hard drives wasn't enough, wasting tens of thousands of dollars in perfectly good hardware was the right thing to do.

Re:Idiots. (0)

jo42 (227475) | more than 2 years ago | (#38479020)

West Bumfuckistan - Back To The Dark Ages.

Re:Idiots. (-1, Troll)

davester666 (731373) | more than 2 years ago | (#38479056)

Please, do not insult those inbred, on welfare, unemployed 'Americans' from Arkansas, Alabama, Tennessee, and Mississippi.

Re:Idiots. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38479606)

kill yourself

Re:Idiots. (1)

517714 (762276) | more than 2 years ago | (#38479566)

Three weeks in thirty minutes.

Re:Idiots. (1)

rwa2 (4391) | more than 2 years ago | (#38479028)

Whatever... just don't tell my wife about them!

/hopes^H^H^H^H^Hprays they don't make house calls

Re:Idiots. (1)

FunkSoulBrother (140893) | more than 2 years ago | (#38479080)

I'm guessing that miltant crazies don't really know what a hard drive is, or where the memory is stored. It's just a devil box at that point. Hell I don't think most US fundamentalist crazies would know either.

Re:Idiots. (1)

houstonbofh (602064) | more than 2 years ago | (#38479186)

I'm guessing that miltant crazies don't really know what a hard drive is, or where the memory is stored. It's just a devil box at that point. Hell I don't think most US fundamentalist crazies would know either.

Sure they do. It is that big box on the floor with all the buttons and lights on it and a cup holder. What do you think I am? Some kind of idiot?

Re:Idiots. (3, Funny)

a_nonamiss (743253) | more than 2 years ago | (#38479458)

It's not a cup holder you moran. It's where you put the shiny circle. I seen one of those "Geek Nerd" guys up at the Best Buy do it once.

Re:Idiots. (2)

Whiteox (919863) | more than 2 years ago | (#38479626)

Durrr! You only use the shiny circle if the cup wont fit in the whole

Re:Idiots. (3, Insightful)

tsa (15680) | more than 2 years ago | (#38479726)

Blowing up those ridiculously old and big statues was also the right thing to do.

...I will wipe from the face of the earth every HD (1)

zill (1690130) | more than 2 years ago | (#38479002)

I bet the recent Thailand floods were the result of top secret Taliban weather control technology. After all, hard-drives are the bigger enablers of porn.

Re:...I will wipe from the face of the earth every (1)

dirty_ghost (1673990) | more than 2 years ago | (#38479228)

no, that was Kim Jong Il.

Re:...I will wipe from the face of the earth every (1)

EdIII (1114411) | more than 2 years ago | (#38479544)

After all, hard-drives are the bigger enablers of porn.,/quote>

Uhhhh no. It's Ethernet cables.

Objective Hide their actual Activities (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38479016)

First objective is to hide what they are doing. This is accomplished by no one able to photograph their brutal actions and so the Leaders will not be photographed for later intervention by NATO.

Second is to control the media and what the people are told. Hopefully create more little zealots to continue the cause.

Re:Objective Hide their actual Activities (2)

geekprime (969454) | more than 2 years ago | (#38479282)

Bingo! We have a winner!

Re:Objective Hide their actual Activities (4, Interesting)

EdIII (1114411) | more than 2 years ago | (#38479568)

Considering the Taliban manual specifically prohibits any Taliban from being alone in a room with an unbearded man (boy), I bet it is so that nobody can record that evidence as well.

Which is incredibly ironic that they are trying to prevent obscenity when they are predominately pedophiles.

Before anybody mods this troll..... if it was false why would it have to be in the manual for the Taliban specifically?

Re:Objective Hide their actual Activities (4, Informative)

number11 (129686) | more than 2 years ago | (#38479632)

Considering the Taliban manual specifically prohibits any Taliban from being alone in a room with an unbearded man (boy), I bet it is so that nobody can record that evidence as well. Which is incredibly ironic that they are trying to prevent obscenity when they are predominately pedophiles. Before anybody mods this troll..... if it was false why would it have to be in the manual for the Taliban specifically?

Because it's a popular entertainment in Afghanistan that the Taliban want to ban?

What makes you think it's not a problem with non-Taliban? Didn't American contractors with DynCorp pimp young boys for a party for Afghan cops (cite [houstonpress.com] ?

Re:Objective Hide their actual Activities (4, Insightful)

517714 (762276) | more than 2 years ago | (#38479580)

Doesn't that pretty much sum up our government's policies too?

Jokes on them... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38479030)

The toxic chemicals released from burning all that hardware gave them all cancer.

HA HA.

Re:Jokes on them... (4, Insightful)

houstonbofh (602064) | more than 2 years ago | (#38479200)

The toxic chemicals released from burning all that hardware gave them all cancer.

"Why are you worried about something that will kill you in 7 years when there are so many things that can kill you tomorrow?" -- Lord of War

Hard to preach long term thinking when most people in the community die in their thirties...

Re:Jokes on them... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38479264)

That stuff is so toxic, it might kill them in two.

Re:Jokes on them... (3, Funny)

BarryHaworth (536145) | more than 2 years ago | (#38479372)

The toxic chemicals released from burning all that hardware gave them all cancer.

HA HA.

... which leads straight into the XKCD cartoon [xkcd.com] about just his phenomenon.

But you know... (3, Insightful)

JasoninKS (1783390) | more than 2 years ago | (#38479038)

Of course, they copied off and kept all the good porn for themselves before they destroyed the hardware.

SOPAliban (4, Funny)

Kikuchi (1709032) | more than 2 years ago | (#38479046)

Much more efficient than blocking DNS, you have to concede that.

ACTA (1, Insightful)

kurt555gs (309278) | more than 2 years ago | (#38479058)

Why the USA is against the Taliban is beyond me. They are in favor of ACTA and SOPA by their actions here. We're all in this together.

Lesser of many evils (5, Insightful)

dpilot (134227) | more than 2 years ago | (#38479074)

Forget about this...

Compared to throwing acid on a young girl's face because she wants what we consider an elementary education - now that's worth some outrage.

Children are to be cherished and encouraged to reach for their full potential. Any society that fails to do this is failing, period - USA included.

Re:Lesser of many evils (4, Insightful)

kanto (1851816) | more than 2 years ago | (#38479428)

Forget about this...

Compared to throwing acid on a young girl's face because she wants what we consider an elementary education - now that's worth some outrage.

Children are to be cherished and encouraged to reach for their full potential. Any society that fails to do this is failing, period - USA included.

I think this is a perfect thing to get outraged at since it's just a different side of the same problem, "where you burn books, you will ultimately burn people also".

Re:Lesser of many evils (5, Informative)

bmo (77928) | more than 2 years ago | (#38479542)

I had to google that last quote because I liked it so much.

For everyone's edification:

"Das war ein Vorspiel nur, dort wo man Bücher verbrennt, verbrennt man auch am Ende Menschen."

  "That was but a prelude; where they burn books, they will ultimately burn people also."

  Heinrich Heine, in the play "Almansor" - 1821

--
BMO

Extingush the Taliban (1, Insightful)

Zombie Ryushu (803103) | more than 2 years ago | (#38479076)

The Taliban is one organization I would not mind if we used a Neutron Bomb or some sort of method of extinguishing all organic life in an area to eliminate. They are probably the lowest vermin on the face of the Earth.

Re:Extingush the Taliban (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38479122)

I'm with you with the following proviso:

You must GUARANTEE, BEYOND ANY DOUBT WHATSOEVER that EVERY SINGLE LIVING BEING within the AoE is a willing follower, enabler, adherent, and/or card-carrying member thereof.

Once you've done that, Bombs Away!

-AC

Re:Extingush the Taliban (2, Insightful)

bug1 (96678) | more than 2 years ago | (#38479274)

Or maybe instead of resorting to violence to achieve your goal (like the tailban does) we could try and teach them to think for themselves so they arent so easily brainwashed by religion.

Re:Extingush the Taliban (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38479386)

we tried that in america, it didnt work.

Haha good one (1)

ArchieBunker (132337) | more than 2 years ago | (#38479692)

Have you considered that they fucking like whats currently happening? Look at the big revolution that happened in Egypt. A new set of leaders and the same shit is still going on without even a pause.

How do you propose to teach someone who would rather die for their beliefs?

Re:Extingush the Taliban (1)

Mashiki (184564) | more than 2 years ago | (#38479724)

Good luck with that. You guys couldn't even bother to finish Iraq, let alone to what was necessary to defeat what was causing the problems in the first place. Because you let politics get in the way of beating an ideology.

shit, why didn't Obama think of that (2)

decora (1710862) | more than 2 years ago | (#38479446)

maybe we should also just round up a few thousand of them and ship them to cuba and torture them until they tell us where all the bad guys are?

i bet that would work, this war would be over tomorrow!

Re:shit, why didn't Obama think of that (1)

ColdWetDog (752185) | more than 2 years ago | (#38479728)

maybe we should also just round up a few thousand of them and ship them to cuba and torture them until they tell us where all the bad guys are?

i bet that would work, this war would be over tomorrow!

Na, just lock them into a room with a TV running C-span 24 hours a day.

Three weeks of that and they'll be babbling vegetables.

All your porn are belong to us! (2, Interesting)

kawabago (551139) | more than 2 years ago | (#38479078)

It's the Taliban's leaders that should be raided! They all watch porn and force their spouses to wear the Burka so no one will find out it's a MAN! You're not gay if everyone thinks you're with a woman.

Re:All your porn are belong to us! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38479276)

Not sure how often they hide a man under there. I think you mean boy. They are medieval, or even ancient in so many ways. Some of them are pedarists much as the ancient Greeks were. OTOH, I've also heard that they exploit the boys as opposed to mentoring them. We don't know how it compares to Greek pederasty because all we have to compare it with is archaelogical evidence and a few ancient texts that survived bias and censorship through hundreds of years. Who knows, maybe the Greeks were worse and the whole "mentor" relationship was spin.

Neanderthals All (0)

Nom du Keyboard (633989) | more than 2 years ago | (#38479102)

Who in the world would want to live under and be governed by these Neanderthals?
(I realize that this is an insult to true Neanderthals.)

Re:Neanderthals All (1)

Lunoria (1496339) | more than 2 years ago | (#38479156)

Who in the world would want to live under and be governed by these Neanderthals? (I realize that this is an insult to true Neanderthals.)

The Taliban rule with guns. He with the most guns sets the laws.

Re:Neanderthals All (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38479226)

Yes Neanderthals, but guess what? The Taliban were better than the thugs they replaced and they control large parts of the country because they are better than the US backed Neanderthals.

Queue... (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38479116)

All the Anti-US, pro-Taliban posts in 3, 2, 1....

Re:Queue... (2)

DnaK (1306859) | more than 2 years ago | (#38479146)

ALLAHU AKBAR!

Re:Queue... (2)

SlashdotWanker (1476819) | more than 2 years ago | (#38479582)

God bless you. That was quite a sneeze :-P

The thing is... (2, Interesting)

bmo (77928) | more than 2 years ago | (#38479170)

There are people in the US that are ready and waiting to do the exact same thing. Some of them are corporations.

The RIAA and MPAA wish all this would go away.

The Dominionists and other so-called-Christian radicals (note the location of the hyphen) would burn all modern communications technology and "unchristian books" (meaning anything other than the bible) in a heartbeat.

--
BMO

Re:The thing is... (-1)

cavreader (1903280) | more than 2 years ago | (#38479320)

Comparing the RIAA and MPAA with the Taliban only proves you have an IQ in the low 30's.

Re:The thing is... (4, Informative)

bmo (77928) | more than 2 years ago | (#38479340)

Excuse me?

In case you haven't noticed, the MPAA and RIAA have been nothing but terrorist thugs when it comes to the Internet. It fucks with their distribution system, cuts out middle men, and is generally a pain in the ass to them. They would like nothing better than to go back to the bad old days of no Internet where they held the distribution channels in their grip.

SOPA, a bill which they wrote, is tantamount to burning down the Internet.

--
BMO

Re:The thing is... (4, Funny)

517714 (762276) | more than 2 years ago | (#38479628)

Yes. OP, please apologize to the Taliban for lumping them in with such low-life scum.

Now we know (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38479206)

Now we know the REAL reason bin Laden moved to Pakistan!

They may be on to something... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38479208)

When I first read this, I wasn't surprised. Now, I'm thinking how nice it would be to return to a time where I could live without this device.

Re:They may be on to something... (1)

Gaygirlie (1657131) | more than 2 years ago | (#38479232)

Now, I'm thinking how nice it would be to return to a time where I could live without this device.

BLASPHEMER! You obviously do not belong on /.!

Is this about blocking porn or... (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38479252)

About the militia maintaining a monopoly on electronic communication to prevent a rebellion or infiltration by the government or other tribal leaders?

Remember, these villagers are mostly Muslim, and they pray five times a day. And somehow I doubt the people in the militia will be burning their own phones and computers.

Sounds more like a power move (2, Insightful)

Yoik (955095) | more than 2 years ago | (#38479258)

The motive is (IMHO) most likely to express and increase their power over the people affected rather than the stated one. Eliminate something that gives those people power, and show them how weak they are against their new rulers.

That whooshing noise is modernity passing you (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38479270)

Good luck with that. Let me know how that crushing illiteracy and unemployment works out for you.

The Taliban is finished. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38479290)

They will be completely massacreed in a lawsuit brought by Apple over patents held on destroying data.

Turnabout (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38479312)

How different is it from morons burning copies of the Quran?

SOPA (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38479318)

Oh poor Taliban, why burn PCs and cell phones where you can enforce SOPA-like laws. In your dead face Osama, the U.S. wins again!

This just in... (1)

mapinguari (110030) | more than 2 years ago | (#38479326)

Leaflets used to spread obscenity.
Burn all leaflets.

obscene images? Sexting? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38479348)

Cellular News reports that militants from South Waziristan set ablaze about 300 cellular phones and a number of computers in Wana because the devices were allegedly used to spread obscene materials.

There they'll take your phone away for sexting, while in the USA you could become a registered sex offender for life. Honestly I'm not sure which I favor more.

No txt ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38479364)

Why didn't theY just txt the cell owners ?

It's okay (2)

slapout (93640) | more than 2 years ago | (#38479390)

According to Joe Biden, the Taliban is not the US's enemy so it's okay.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/joe-biden-taliban-america-enemy-gopers-romney-santorum-mccain-pounce-article-1.994760?localLinksEnabled=false

The US needs to get a set of BALLS (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38479416)

The US needs to get a set of BALLS and Liberate Pakistan.

This has gone to far, we need to bring freedom back to the world. Only way to do this is for the US to get a set of BALLS and Liberate countries like Pakistan and Canada.

xkcd knew! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38479422)

xkcd knew along that this would happen https://www.xkcd.com/750/ [xkcd.com]

Signals Intellegence (5, Interesting)

Required Snark (1702878) | more than 2 years ago | (#38479426)

Clearly, this has an impact on the strategic capabilities of the Talaban.

There are two possibilities. Either they are eliminating all cell phones, or only the cell phones of the non-Talaban under their control. If the get rid of all cell phones, then their ability to coordinate and send/receive timely information will be seriously impacted. They will become less effective.

If they keep cell phones for themselves, they become much more obvious targets. It will be easier to listen in on their communications because they will be the only ones talking. Even just detecting a cell phone signal will flag the location of a Talaban member. Not such a good move in the era of loitering UAVs with GPS enabled munitions.

It's nice when your enemies are such stupid fanatics that they either shoot themselves in the foot, or paint a target on their backs. I hope they find even more ways to use their religious fanaticism screw themselves up.

Randall & the Taliban (1)

KlomDark (6370) | more than 2 years ago | (#38479450)

Bunch of Savages

What else is new? (1)

no-body (127863) | more than 2 years ago | (#38479466)

Religious surpression creates perversion.
Old story - for reference see Wihelm Reich, Character Analysis.
Totally perverse to destroy cellphones and computers.

What do you expect the poor nations (1)

future assassin (639396) | more than 2 years ago | (#38479510)

to do. They're just following the leader, that's right the good ol USofA.

Keep in mind (1)

Karmashock (2415832) | more than 2 years ago | (#38479514)

Most of these people can't even read. These are true barbarians. And the real threat to them is the modern world in any form. They make a point of ruining infrastructure and keeping people simple.

If there's any place that could use the one laptop per child program it would be Afghanistan. If only because more people might actually learn to read.

I thought their madrases taught the children how to read while teaching the Koran but apparently not. They just sit there and recite/chant whatever the teacher says.

The whole country is feral.

Behead the non-progressives! (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38479652)

Technology becoming the new western black? (that's a triple, for those of you counting) The dead hand of Darwin in humanity's post-predation period? (mechanism of self-correcting selection pressure towards progress) The emerging membranes of the meta-organism? (you think technology isn't as much a part of us as language?)

Is it more likely than centipedes in our vaginae?

But seriously, now, let's just stop sending foreign aid straight down the shitholes and watch as the problems of the third world correct themselves. "Our" struggle up the Sisyphean hill of civilization wasn't easy or quick, but it didn't happen because "we" had untold trillions squandered upon artificially sustaining "our" non-functional economies, or because "we" had external moralities and cultures unfairly competing with "ours" (leveraging economic incentives to do so!).

Isolate the barbarians. Let them rot or kill each other as they like. If they do, we lose nothing while recovering vast tracts of usable surface area of the planet. If they decide to stop eating shit and behaving like subhuman trash, then we can finally welcome them back into the species after they have earned the privilege of being included. In any case, the decision is about to be made for us as the world's water supply is the next global crisis and will absolutely demand a technological solution (the alternative is the deaths of billions). What will these troglodytes do when Evil Western Technology is what stops their children from dying to cholera? Why, the same thing they did when we tried to eradicate polio by vaccine (they rejected it, thereby becoming a reservoir for the disease and re-introducing it to the population after the global health organizations spent epic oodles of cash on the effort. so today we still have polio).

I'll just leave this here:
http://bigthink.com/maudebarlow#!video_idea_id=1798

You think the savages will have problems surviving without water? How well do you think they can keep up with the rest of humanity without information? You think the divergence of the species based on information is sci-fi? Futurism? Not even possible? Information is what makes us human. Information is what we actually are. Deprivation of information, or even just the specific access to distinct sets of information, is one of the selection factors mankind has always been dealing with. The divide isn't some possible dystopian future in a novel, it's so severe, it's so REAL, that what we're seeing is the stretch starting to split, to tear right down the fault lines, separating information-species from each other in a multi-pronged fork on our evolutionary tree branch.

You think sociology and culture is all it is or will be? Regenerative medicine and genetic science is the hot, emerging field of knowledge... those who have the information, have access to it -- and that right there is hardware (or "wetware", if you prefer your juicier, sexier punny labels) level modification. Speciation based on information via the mechanism, the medium of technology.

No need for eugenics wars and conspiracy theories, Darwin is winning because that's just how our universe works.

Let the bashing of Islam begin!!! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38479744)

And not of talibani psychopaths!

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