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Android Approved By Pentagon

samzenpus posted more than 2 years ago | from the getting-the-greenlight dept.

Android 160

sfcrazy writes "The Pentagon has approved a version of Android running on Dell hardware to be used by DoD officials, along with the BlackBerry. The approval of Android by the DoD is a major setback for Apple's iPhone. This doesn't mean that DoD employees can use any Android phone. The Pentagon has approved only Dell's hardware running Android 2.2. Interestingly Dell recently discontinued its Streak phone which runs Android 2.2. Dell is now offering Dell Venue which runs on Android 2.2. So, this is the phone which DoD employees can use."

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No goodies for the DoD (2)

wbr1 (2538558) | more than 2 years ago | (#38489916)

I guess they won't be getting Ice Cream Sandwich without rooting either.

Re:No goodies for the DoD (2, Insightful)

gcnaddict (841664) | more than 2 years ago | (#38489948)

Right, because rooting a phone you plan on using for handling sensitive compartmented information [wikipedia.org] is such a good idea.

Re:No goodies for the DoD (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38490064)

woosh.... MAJOR fucking WOOSH!

Re:No goodies for the DoD (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38490150)

They can fucking have this piece of shit.

Re:No goodies for the DoD (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38490376)

woosh.... MAJOR fucking WOOSH!

you're like that insecure jackass at every party who cannot just laugh at something. he has to turn around and see if anyone else is laughing. if they are, so does he. if they aren't, he nervously shuts up.

the reason "woosh" rhymes with "douche" is that only fucking douchebags get their jollies pointing it out. might as well just post a "nigger joke" and be done with it.

Re:No goodies for the DoD (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38490696)

That whoosh really upset you gcnaddict. It's even funnier that you have a 6 digit ID. Calm down.

Re:No goodies for the DoD (1)

gcnaddict (841664) | more than 2 years ago | (#38490802)

Actually, I didn't reply to it, but I do readily admit that my callous lack of knowledge for how SCI material is handled caught me off-guard with how many times I was corrected in the thread. I do happen to have a sense of humor, but I didn't originally see the joke.

Re:No goodies for the DoD (1)

Sulphur (1548251) | more than 2 years ago | (#38491710)

That whoosh really upset you gcnaddict. It's even funnier that you have a 6 digit ID. Calm down.

AC has three digit ID FWIW

Re:No goodies for the DoD (1)

ColdWetDog (752185) | more than 2 years ago | (#38491314)

woosh.... MAJOR fucking WOOSH!

More like General Whoosh.

Re:No goodies for the DoD (1)

a_hanso (1891616) | more than 2 years ago | (#38492170)

There's a colonel of truth to what you say.

Re:No goodies for the DoD (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38490202)

Unless the phone is physically locked into a SCIF (defeating the purpose of having a phone in the first place), it's not going to be handling any sort of SCI.

Re:No goodies for the DoD (1)

gcnaddict (841664) | more than 2 years ago | (#38490808)

No, you're right. I mis-used the term; I only remembered that SCI is locked into SCIFs after the fact.

Oh well, point taken.

Re:No goodies for the DoD (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38490228)

You are a pure natural born idiot. I D I O T. Please go finish that bottle of glue now.

Re:No goodies for the DoD (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38490390)

STFU fat faggot.

Re:No goodies for the DoD (1)

gcnaddict (841664) | more than 2 years ago | (#38490814)

You are a pure natural born idiot. I D I O T. Please go finish that bottle of glue now.

ok! =)

Re:No goodies for the DoD (1)

gatkinso (15975) | more than 2 years ago | (#38491312)

Accreditation for mobile devices will only be up to collateral secret... and even that is a big "if."

Re:No goodies for the DoD (2)

Threni (635302) | more than 2 years ago | (#38490022)

Who cares? 2.3 is all you need. Seems like nothing but small, unimportant updates for ages now. No point in getting ICS for the sake of it, just like there was (is, in a lot of cases) no point in corporate windows users upgrading from XP to Vista or 7.

Re:No goodies for the DoD (1)

davester666 (731373) | more than 2 years ago | (#38490782)

I know it was past the first sentence, but it specifically mentions being limited to v2.2.

Re:No goodies for the DoD (1)

Threni (635302) | more than 2 years ago | (#38490886)

No, the first sentence was:

"I guess they won't be getting Ice Cream Sandwich without rooting either."

Re:No goodies for the DoD (4, Interesting)

Hadlock (143607) | more than 2 years ago | (#38490806)

After 4 days with ICS on my Nexus S, I am seriously considering downgrading. The only end-user changes are almost completely cosmetic, and app/widget support for ICS is poor at best for many things I use on a daily basis.

Thank you so much, pentagon! (1)

noh8rz (2535268) | more than 2 years ago | (#38491296)

Sincerely, Anonymous. And China.

Why Doesn't the DoD Roll their Own? (0)

GeneralTurgidson (2464452) | more than 2 years ago | (#38489934)

It sounds like from the article they're going to fork Android. Talk about fragmentation. They need to build a solution from the ground up, otherwise it's going to be a mess to maintain or support.

Re:Why Doesn't the DoD Roll their Own? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38489976)

It sounds like from the article they're going to fork Android. Talk about fragmentation. They need to build a solution from the ground up, otherwise it's going to be a mess to maintain or support.

There is nowhere in the article any mentioning of forking Android.

Re:Why Doesn't the DoD Roll their Own? (1)

Nimey (114278) | more than 2 years ago | (#38489992)

That would be an affront to the Free Market (pbui).

Re:Why Doesn't the DoD Roll their Own? (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38490266)

They need to build a solution from the ground up, otherwise it's going to be a mess to maintain or support.

I realize this is Slashdot circa 2011 and not the green glow of yore but has it really gotten this bad? Have all the real IT people left with only the posers and "enthusiasts" remaining? You seriously just banged your two pathetic brain cells together and concluded that building an entire OS from scratch that is at the level of Android will be easier and less difficult to maintain than just using what is already available and field tested on over a hundred million handsets? Really? Really??

In case you didn't get it, you are a FUCKING MORON. That is all.

Re:Why Doesn't the DoD Roll their Own? (2)

houstonbofh (602064) | more than 2 years ago | (#38490288)

The DOD does not build anything. They pay contractors to do that.

Re:Why Doesn't the DoD Roll their Own? (2)

cavreader (1903280) | more than 2 years ago | (#38491750)

What's wrong with that? The government is limited on how much they can spend on individuals. However, the expense of using highly expensive 3rd part non-governmental companies does not violate the government pay scale. The military is a prime example. Their reliance on advanced technology forces them to use non-governmental and non-military resources to develop. implement, and operate their systems.

Re:Why Doesn't the DoD Roll their Own? (1)

PopeRatzo (965947) | more than 2 years ago | (#38491426)

They need to build a solution from the ground up, otherwise it's going to be a mess to maintain or support.

What do they care? They're the Military, for chrissake. Messes are their specialty. They even call the place they eat a "mess".

We just saw how more than half the politicians tremble at the mere mention of a cut to military spending. The even tremble at a mention of a cut in the increase in military spending. Hell, if you run Xe or a company like it or a military contractor you don't even have to ask the government for money. They just get their own checkbooks and have at it.

This is the first step (0, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38489936)

It starts with a step, hopefully won't end with just that.

Given the DoD's ongoing love affair with Windows (5, Insightful)

Daniel Dvorkin (106857) | more than 2 years ago | (#38489954)

... I have a hard time believing the open-source-ness of Android played any real part in the decision, no matter what TFA says. Someone at Dell made the right deal with the right people at the Pentagon.

Also Windows is just as open to them (5, Insightful)

Sycraft-fu (314770) | more than 2 years ago | (#38490146)

The idea that Windows' source code is some massive secret is rather funny. It is closed source, but it is no secret. Not only do governments have it (which they require if it is to be used for anything classified) but universities do too. MS licenses it to various universities with some conditions. Students can see it and mess with it, but not copy it and that kind of thing.

Any OS the DoD is going to use, they'll have the code for. So to them Windows and Android are no different in that regard.

"Right on/top marks" but... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38490476)

With said source, you need actual EXPERIENCED coders (and time) to TRULY "get the hang of it" & what's going on inside it... Windows NT, the forerunner/ancestor of modern Windows OS'? Last I knew of, it had 30 million++ lines of code (means TIME, bigtime, to understand)... it's not gotten smaller in modern varieties either (think Win7/Srv2k8).

Which is, after all, EXACTLY why the MOST DANGEROUS "hacker/cracker" types, are coders... because only coders, experienced ones (not 'script kiddies') mind you, have the understanding of these things!

(Not just "any coders" either - what's required's actually, a "combined threat" type, that understands coding AND networking + OS' & how to use them @ the "lowest levels" - takes YEARS to DECADES too, & on many OS (though the principles of them ALL are pretty much the same & they access the same types of hardware + networks too)).

Those are the guys you have to "look out for" (& then again, so does the NSA/CIA etc., because they're what they recruit!)

* Put it THIS way: Trust me, I know...

(Now, if YOU want to know too, & see examples? Then, I suggest you all take a trip over to rootkit.com & see "what shakes" there... that site? It'll "school U" (or anyone, & I don't care WHO you are... pretty amazing stuff gets pointed out there!)).

APK

P.S.=> However - The main thing closed source OS have going for them's that NOT EVERYONE HAS THEIR CODE, & I'll tell you, right now/point-blank, that finding "security holes" in "OPEN SORES" code's a hell of a lot simpler/easier than in closed source stuff & especially "for the masses" (because ANYONE can get say, Linux' code, & a compiler + "step trace" thru it for finding said potential "bugs"). That's simpler, faster, & EASIER than trying to disassemble or use a "fuzzer" on closed source code...

... apk

Re:"Right on/top marks" but... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38490538)

You're completely wrong.

Oh, and the college you graduated at is shit, and the sort of place a loser who couldn't get into a proper university would go to.

Tell you what troll... (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38490626)

When you can show us all that you even HAVE a degree? Get back to us...

When you can show that you've got nearly 18 yrs. of hands-on experience in BOTH coding + networking & security as I have professionally (as well as a slew of "decent accomplishments" noted in respectable trade magazines, books, tech trade shows to your name as I have had for decades now (when I gave a "hoot" about that kind of thing as a younger man that is so I could get things on my resume of that nature in the beginning days for me when it matters most))?

Then, you can talk!

* The school(s) I went to are pretty highly rated Northeast U.S. ones... @ least when I went to them!

E.G.-> The 1st one was the "best buy" I could find in fact, Jesuit professors galore - the "educated elite" of the Catholic Church in fact (sort of blacksheep though)...

I am not from a wealthy family, I couldn't "buy my way in" (I was National Honor Society outta highschool too), but I had the grades to go ANYWHERE I wanted really... just not the cash!

Also, @ the time in those days, & as far as schools go?

WELL... "The infamous they" often state that the best ones in the nation are in that area, & I was there on combined athletic/academic partial scholarships too, in a sport they've been a NATIONAL CHAMP in, & I was a lettering NCAA starter as a Freshman too no less (which again, is more than the "trolling likes of you" probably can ever say)...

Still, bottom-line on schooling is, what YOU make of it, & I've professionally worked with guys that only have an A.A.S. who blew AWAY guys I knew with B.S.!

See, & anyone here (minus trolls like yourself) knows this:

To be good-to-great @ computing, or really, ANYTHING? No questions asked - You have to practically "LIVE IT" & talent/smarts/intelligence?? It's NOT ENOUGH!

Again - SCHOOLING's WHAT YOU MAKE IT... no questions asked, & it's ONLY THE START... you learn FAR MORE IN THE WORKING WORLD, by far (and eventually, on your own too).

( ... & not everyone does that, especially youngsters (though I have to admit I've seen more of that "trait" in engineering & CSC related fields than others (which makes sense - if you're going to SURVIVE them, you have to dig in deep, & hard to))).

APK

P.S.=> Now, I'm pretty sure you're the ac trolling ad hominem attacking fool I have been dealing with here for about a year now, & "doing you in", as I did here this week:

http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2584140&cid=38482510 [slashdot.org]

Where you showed how WEAK you are in this field? You had better be going to a "top notch school" & doing well there, because to catch up to me?? Good luck - you'll need DECADES to do so...

... apk

Re:Tell you what troll... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38490736)

You really need psychiatric help.

Here's what U really need (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38490752)

In regards to your weak attempt @ an illogical off-topic ad hominem attack:

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1.) A degree in the psychiatric sciences
2.) A license to practice said sciences
3.) A formal examination performed in a professional settings on myself
4.) Years-To-Decades of professional "hands-on experience in the trenches" actually DOING THE JOB...

---

* All of which a troll such as yourself, CLEARLY lacks... lol!

APK

P.S.=> This "shut down your b.s." pretty good too I have to say (pats self on back, & I am glad I am glad I looked it up in fact, was wondering how the old "alma mater's" doing in that regards) -> http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2590324&cid=38490738 [slashdot.org]

... apk

Re:Tell you what troll... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38490756)

Ask at LKML, guys there are capable of diving into such code. There is a lot of money revolving around 0day exploits, and there is no shortage of talent, desperate about earning some money, which are able to go through this code and find where it is weak. Of course, building something like that is hard and requires decades of learning, as you said (but on the other hand, don't underestimate talent and genius, like the guy who excells at coding in high school - there is always someone capable of learning it in the incredibly short period).

I hear you, & agree, 110%, but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38490850)

As Edison I believe said "Genius is 1% inspiration, 99% perspiration"...

* Even though his "great adversary" in Nikola Tesla was his superior imo? He had a point... & it was the point I tried to make!

APK

P.S.=> On your "desperate to make money" - yes, that presents a problem, but then it comes down to the CHARACTER OF THE INDIVIDUAL I suppose... I.E.-> Do you want to go to the "dark side of the force" or the opposite? I will say 1 GOOD THING about "hacker/crackers" though: They DO point out what needs "shoring up", but, that's about ALL I have to say "good" about 'em...

... apk

Re:Tell you what troll... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38490776)

If you went to a good college you wouldn't be a fucking jackass posting in an incomprehensible style trolling about MS windows security.

Documentation from a reputable source dusts you (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38490788)

"Eat your words" -> http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2590324&cid=38490738 [slashdot.org]

APK

P.S.=> This? This was just "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2EZ'" ...

... apk

150++ of your peers @ /. disagree w/ you... apk (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38491386)

"If you went to a good college you wouldn't be a fucking jackass posting in an incomprehensible style trolling about MS windows security." - by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 25, @07:19PM (#38490776)

In fact, per my subject-line? Roughly 150++ of them & I post as AC (hard to get even +1, as /. hides our posts & we "AC"'s start @ ZERO/0 points, unlike registered "lusers", lol!) - because mod ups indicate ANYTHING BUT being "incomprehensible" to others:

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+5 'modded up' posts by "yours truly" (5):

HOSTS & BGP:2010 -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1901826&cid=34490450 [slashdot.org]
FIREFOX IN DANGER: 2011 -> http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2559120&cid=38268580 [slashdot.org]
TESLA:2010 -> http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1872982&cid=34264190 [slashdot.org]
TESLA:2010 -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1806946&cid=33777976 [slashdot.org]
NVIDIA 2d:2006 -> http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=175774&cid=14610147 [slashdot.org]

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+4 'modded up' posts by "yours truly" (4):

APK SECURITY GUIDE:2005 -> http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=167071&cid=13931198 [slashdot.org]
INFO. SYSTEMS WORK:2005 -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=161862&cid=13531817 [slashdot.org]
WINDOWS @ NASDAQ 7++ YRS. NOW:2009 -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1290967&cid=28571315 [slashdot.org]
CARMACK'S ARMADILLO AEROSPACE:2005 -> http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=158310&cid=13263898 [slashdot.org]

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+3 'modded up' posts by "yours truly" (6):

APK MICROSOFT INTERVIEW:2005 -> http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=155172&cid=13007974 [slashdot.org]
APK MS SYMBOLIC DIRECTORY LINKS:2005 -> http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=166850&cid=13914137 [slashdot.org]
APK FOOLS IE7 INSTALL IN BETA HOW TO:2006 -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=175857&cid=14615222 [slashdot.org]
PROOFS ON OPERA SPEED & SECURITY:2007 -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=273931&threshold=1&commentsort=0&mode=thread&cid=20291847 [slashdot.org]
HBGary POST in Fake Names On Social Networks, a Fake Problem:2011 -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2375110&cid=37056304 [slashdot.org]
APK RC STOP ROOKIT TECHNIQUES:2008 -> http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1021873&cid=25681261 [slashdot.org]

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+2 'modded up' posts by "yours truly" (11):

HOW DLL API CALL LOADS WORK:2008 -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1001489&cid=25441395 [slashdot.org]
APK TRICK TO STOP A MALWARE:2008 -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1010923&cid=25549351 [slashdot.org]
DOING SHAREWARE 1995-2004:2007 -> http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=233779&cid=19020329 [slashdot.org]
MHTML SECURITY BUG FIX IE:2011 -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1973914&cid=35056454 [slashdot.org]
EXCEL SECURITY FIX:2009 -> http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1139485&cid=26974507 [slashdot.org]
CODING JOBS OFFSHORING:2007 -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=245971&cid=19760473 [slashdot.org]
MS PUTS YOU TO WORK:2006 -> http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=174759&cid=14538593 [slashdot.org]
ARSTECHNICA LOL:2008 -> http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1021733&cid=25675515 [slashdot.org]
CYBERSECURITY LEGISLATIONS:2011 -> http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2222868&cid=36379698 [slashdot.org]
FILTERING ONLINE:2010 -> http://politics.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1790178&cid=33610372 [slashdot.org]
APK ON PLANTED SHILLS BY TELECOM/ISP/BSP:2010 -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1827308&cid=33940988 [slashdot.org]

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+1 'modded up' posts by "yours truly" (78) & we AC's start at ZERO, not 1 or 2 like registered users on /. do:

APK SSD/RamDrive/RamDisk usage since 1996:2008 -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1014349&cid=25591403 [slashdot.org]
DISASSEMBLY & PROTECTING CODE:2010 -> http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1719570&cid=32907418 [slashdot.org]
APK ON RESERVED PORTS IN WINDOWS:2007 -> http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=235621&cid=19229493 [slashdot.org]
NORTON DNS & DNSBL:2011 -> http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2311948&cid=36708742 [slashdot.org]
IRON FILESYSTEMS:2007 -> http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=359507&cid=21347933 [slashdot.org]
APK ROOTKIT KILLING TECHNIQUE USING RC:2011 -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2428486&cid=37405530 [slashdot.org]
APK STOPPED CONFICKER BEFORE ANYONE DID:2009 -> http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1159209&cid=27178753 [slashdot.org]
APK ON WINDOWS DFS vs. LINUX COPYING FEATURES LIKE IT:2008 -> http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=447752&cid=22361236 [slashdot.org]
WINDOWS #CPU's SUPPORTED (much higher now in Win7/Srv2k8 now, 256):2009 -> http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1160287&cid=27191729 [slashdot.org]
DISK DEFRAG STRATEGY OPTIONS:2011 -> http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2435272&cid=37443738 [slashdot.org]
APK PART OF ULTRADEFRAG64 PROOF:2011 -> http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2435272&cid=37443252 [slashdot.org]
DATASTRUCTURES & SQL:2011 -> http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2080454&cid=35794668 [slashdot.org]
BINARY HEAPS:2010 -> http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1686094&cid=32581292 [slashdot.org]
CACHE COHERENCY:2005 -> http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=168793&cid=14070783 [slashdot.org]
DELPHI ROCKS VB/VC++:2007 -> http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=236049&cid=19261269 [slashdot.org]
MEMORY FRAGMENTATION IN FF:2007 -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=367219&threshold=-1&commentsort=0&mode=thread&cid=21434061 [slashdot.org]
CODING PROFESSIONALLY:2005 -> http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=170925&cid=14238424 [slashdot.org]
MULTIPLE MESSAGE QUEUES:2010 -> http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1618508&cid=31847246 [slashdot.org]
APK ROOTKIT.COM ON WINDOWS VISTA IPSTACK SECURITY:2009 -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1339085&cid=29106629 [slashdot.org]
USING CSC & SCIENCE TOGETHER IN ACADEMIA:2010 -> http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1531366&cid=30971224 [slashdot.org]
PROGRAMMING CONCEPTS MORE IMPORTANT THAN SYNTAX:2009 -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1314993&cid=28827429 [slashdot.org]
SSD DECADES OF USAGE:2009 -> http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1273501&cid=28375697 [slashdot.org]
CODING .NET FROM VB:2006 -> http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=176229&cid=14641701 [slashdot.org]
LAMP SECURITY:2011 -> http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2243006&cid=36462748 [slashdot.org]
SLASHDOT "Pro-*NIX" SLANT CONTROVERSY = GOOD:2005 -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=154725&cid=12974078 [slashdot.org]
WINDOWS vs. IBM vs. LINUX ARCHITECTURE STEALING:2005 -> http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=160244&cid=13414756 [slashdot.org]
ADBANNERS & VIRUSES:2005 -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=169309&cid=14112880 [slashdot.org]
SECURITY BUGS LINUX vs. WINDOWS:2011 -> http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2247480&cid=36485068 [slashdot.org]
NYSE+LINUX STOCK EXCHANGE LIE BY PENGUINS:2010 -> http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1842764&cid=34046376 [slashdot.org]
APK ON PROCESSEXPLORER & NETSTAT:2009 -> http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1328371&cid=28981169 [slashdot.org]
COMPLETION PORTS + SCHEDULING LINUX vs. WINDOWS:2005 -> http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=160290&cid=13419053 [slashdot.org]
WINDOWS vs. LINUX SECURITY ISSUES:2009 -> http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1135717&cid=26948399 [slashdot.org]
LINUX IMITATING WINDOWS:2005 -> http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=170126&cid=14177851 [slashdot.org]
LINUX SERVING DUQU ROOTKIT: 2011 -> http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2551740&cid=38215752 [slashdot.org]
WINDOWS vs. Linux SECURITY VULNS UNPATCHED:2011 -> http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2077414&cid=35776848 [slashdot.org]
WINDOWS vs. Linux vs. Mac SECURITY VULNS UNPATCHED:2010 -> http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1681772&cid=32524188 [slashdot.org]
APK Windows vs. Linux on UNPATCHED SEC. VULNS:2011 -> http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2059420&cid=35656126 [slashdot.org]
PROOF MS HAD LESS BUGS THAN LINUX/MACOS X:2005 -> http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=173564&cid=14442403 [slashdot.org]
PROOF MS HAD LESS BUGS THAN LINUX/MACOS X:2006 -> http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=173016&cid=14398069 [slashdot.org]
LINUX & JAVASCRIPT ETC.:2009 -> http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1266651&cid=28307523 [slashdot.org]
APK USING KDE & LINUX:2010 -> http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1750240&cid=33214838 [slashdot.org]
APK CONGRATS TO LINUX:2005 -> http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=170296&cid=14192885 [slashdot.org]
APK KUDOS TO LINUX:2005 -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=162921&cid=13614370 [slashdot.org]
LINUX WENT DOWN 2x in LESS THAN 1 YEAR @ London Stock Exchange:2011 -> http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1999478&cid=35231358 [slashdot.org]
1 GOOD THING ABOUT HACKER/CRACKERS:2011 -> http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1982796&cid=35119212 [slashdot.org]
MINIMUM WINDOWS SERVICES:2005 -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=157321&cid=13190570 [slashdot.org]
HIDDEN SECURITY BUGS:2005 -> http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=164039&cid=13698742 [slashdot.org]
APK & FIREFOX BUGFIX TEAM:2005 -> http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=161697&cid=13526010 [slashdot.org]
WHY OPERA ROCKS:2005 -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=170983&cid=14242283 [slashdot.org]
OPERA "SUPERIOR WARRIOR":2009 -> http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1309763&threshold=-1&commentsort=0&mode=thread&pid=28768721 [slashdot.org]
OPERA=FASTER & MORE SECURE:2005 -> http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=157615&cid=13208800 [slashdot.org]
OPERA vs. FIREFOX:2007 -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=286721&cid=20452183 [slashdot.org]
OPERA:2007 -> http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=233227&threshold=1&commentsort=0&mode=thread&cid=18969947 [slashdot.org]
OPERA BY SITE PREFS:2010 -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1881444&cid=34333758 [slashdot.org]
OPERA 64-BIT ROUND 1 FOR WINDOWS & MAC RELEASED:2011 -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2576256&cid=38388178 [slashdot.org]
APK SANDBOXING IE:2007 -> http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=236547&cid=19310513 [slashdot.org]
APK ON SANDBOXIE:2010 -> http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1875754&cid=34281930 [slashdot.org]
CHROME NEEDS BY SITE PREFS TO SANITYINANARCHY:2011 -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2358734&cid=36946676 [slashdot.org]
DO YOUR BEST WORK OUR YOUNG MENS LIVES RIDE ON IT:2010 -> http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1898806&cid=34472826 [slashdot.org]
STAT I/II SKEWING:2010 -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1504756&cid=30711074 [slashdot.org]
SEARCH ENGINES:2005 -> http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=162717&cid=13598832 [slashdot.org]
PORTING CODE:2007 -> http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=236367&cid=19291677 [slashdot.org]
POLITICALS:2007 -> http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=237091&cid=19362755 [slashdot.org]
WINDOWS EMPLOYS YOU BETTER:2006 -> http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=174277&cid=14498965 [slashdot.org]
MS PUTS YOU TO WORK:2005 -> http://books.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=169549&threshold=-1&commentsort=0&tid=109&mode=thread&cid=14132540 [slashdot.org]
"666":2008 -> http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=548476&cid=23353722 [slashdot.org]
APK ON HARDCODES & SHELLOPEN ASSOCIATION:2010 -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1519842&cid=30854906 [slashdot.org]
DR. DEMENTO SHOW:2010 -> http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1678308&cid=32494990 [slashdot.org]
CA DISREPUTABLE #2 of 2:2010 -> http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1884922&cid=34351020 [slashdot.org]
NO PROOF USED BY LOB:2010 -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1907190&cid=34529734 [slashdot.org]
ON KIDS CODING & ARMCHAIR QB's:2011 -> http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2040490&cid=35508400 [slashdot.org]
FPGA & TERMINATORS:2011 -> http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2341586&cid=36842168 [slashdot.org]
APK ON CHESS:2010 -> http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1877160&cid=34293988 [slashdot.org]
RON PAUL & WIKILEAKS:2010 -> http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1907000&cid=34528958 [slashdot.org] /. "CATERING TO CRONIES":2010 -> http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1664046&cid=32336794 [slashdot.org]
BEING MORE "ALL AROUND" THAN 1 DIMENSIONAL IN IT/IS/MIS:2005 -> http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=166174&cid=13863159 [slashdot.org]
GET RID OF S. BALLMER @ MS:2008 -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=543962&cid=23310698 [slashdot.org]

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* THE HOSTS FILE GROUP 25++ THUSFAR (from +5 -> +1 RATINGS, usually "informative" or "interesting" etc./et al):

BANNER ADS & BANDWIDTH:2011 -> http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2139088&cid=36077722 [slashdot.org]
HOSTS MOD UP:2010 -> http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1907266&cid=34529608 [slashdot.org]
HOSTS MOD UP:2009 -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1490078&cid=30555632 [slashdot.org]
HOSTS MOD UP:2010 -> http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1869638&cid=34237268 [slashdot.org]
HOSTS MOD UP:2009 -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1461288&threshold=-1&commentsort=0&mode=thread&cid=30272074 [slashdot.org]
HOSTS MOD UP:2009 -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1255487&cid=28197285 [slashdot.org]
HOSTS MOD UP:2009 -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1206409&cid=27661983 [slashdot.org]
HOSTS MOD UP:2010 -> http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1725068&cid=32960808 [slashdot.org]
HOSTS MOD UP:2010 -> http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1743902&cid=33147274 [slashdot.org]
APK 20++ POINTS ON HOSTS MOD UP:2010 -> http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1913212&cid=34576182 [slashdot.org]
HOSTS MOD UP:2010 -> http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1862260&cid=34186256 [slashdot.org]
HOSTS MOD UP:2010 (w/ facebook known bad sites blocked) -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1924892&cid=34670128 [slashdot.org]
HOSTS FILE MOD UP FOR ANDROID MALWARE:2010 -> http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1930156&cid=34713952 [slashdot.org]
HOSTS MOD UP ZEUSTRACKER:2011 -> http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2059420&cid=35654066 [slashdot.org]
HOSTS MOD UP vs AT&T BANDWIDTH CAP:2011 -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2116504&cid=35985584 [slashdot.org]
HOSTS MOD UP CAN DO SAME AS THE "CloudFlare" Server-Side service:2011 -> http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2220314&cid=36372850 [slashdot.org]
HOSTS and BGP +5 RATED (BEING HONEST):2010 http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1901826&cid=34490450 [slashdot.org]
HOSTS & PROTECT IP ACT:2011 http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2368832&cid=37021700 [slashdot.org]
HOSTS MOD UP:2011 -> http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2457766&cid=37592458 [slashdot.org]
HOSTS MOD UP & OPERA HAUTE SECURE:2011 -> http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2457274&cid=37589596 [slashdot.org]
0.0.0.0 in HOSTS:2009 -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1197039&cid=27556999 [slashdot.org]
0.0.0.0 IN HOSTS:2009 -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1143349&cid=27012231 [slashdot.org]
0.0.0.0 in HOSTS:2009 -> http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1198841&cid=27580299 [slashdot.org]
0.0.0.0 in HOSTS:2009 -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1139705&cid=26977225 [slashdot.org]
HOSTS MOD UP:2009 -> http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1319261&cid=28872833 [slashdot.org] (still says INSIGHTFUL)

* THE APK SECURITY GUIDE GROUP 18++ THUSFAR (from +5 -> +1 RATINGS, usually "informative" or "interesting" etc./et al):

APK SECURITY GUIDE:2009 -> http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1361585&cid=29360367 [slashdot.org]
APK SECURITY GUIDE:2009 -> http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1218837&cid=27787281 [slashdot.org]
APK SECURITY GUIDE:2008 -> http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=970939&cid=25093275 [slashdot.org]
APK SECURITY GUIDE:2010 -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1885890&cid=34358316 [slashdot.org]
APK SECURITY GUIDE (old one):2005 -> http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=154868&cid=12988150 [slashdot.org]
APK SECURITY GUIDE:2008 -> http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=970939&threshold=-1&commentsort=0&mode=thread&no_d2=1&cid=25092677 [slashdot.org]
APK SECURITY GUIDE:2008 -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1027095&cid=25747655 [slashdot.org]
APK SECURITY TEST CHALLENGE LINUX vs. WINDOWS:2007 -> http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=267599&threshold=1&commentsort=0&mode=thread&cid=20203061 [slashdot.org]
APK SECURITY GUIDE:2010 -> http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1638428&cid=32070500 [slashdot.org]
APK SECURITY GUIDE (old one):2005 -> http://books.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=168931&cid=14083927 [slashdot.org]
APK SECURITY GUIDE:2009 -> http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1135717&cid=26941781 [slashdot.org]
APK SECURITY GUIDE:2008 -> http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=416702&cid=22026982 [slashdot.org]
APK SYSTEM TUNING:2010 -> http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1497268&cid=30649722 [slashdot.org]
APK SYSTEM TUNING:2010 -> http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1497268&threshold=-1&commentsort=0&mode=thread&cid=30649722 [slashdot.org]
APK SECURE SETUP FOR IP STACK:2005 -> http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=170545&cid=14211084 [slashdot.org]
APK SECURITY GUIDE (old one):2005 -> http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=170545&cid=14210206 [slashdot.org]
MICROSOFT SECURITY:2010 -> http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1546446&cid=31106612 [slashdot.org]

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* So, as the saying goes? "Argue with the #'s", & good luck - you'll NEED it...

(Most especially since your "opinion", profanity & all, is outweighed by that of your peers on this website @ a 150:1 ratio...)

APK

P.S.=> Additionally, as to your attempting to crap on 1 of my "alma maters"? This dusted you badly on that account also:

http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2590324&cid=38490738 [slashdot.org]

(As I said before in response to your crap? There is NOTHING IN THE WORLD like documented facts from reputable sources to "dust" trolls like yourself - especially those posting anonymously like TRUE COWARDS, & yet being unable to substantiate they themselves have earned a degree, or proof they can "dust me" on "things technical" in computing... hasn't happened to date here in fact, ever, & I've been around here since 2003 or so)...

... apk http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2040490 [slashdot.org]

For a "Shit College", it's doing well even today! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38490738)

"Oh, and the college you graduated at is shit, and the sort of place a loser who couldn't get into a proper university would go to." - by Anonymous Coward ad hominem attack utilizing trolls with no degree to his name on Sunday December 25, @06:28PM (#38490538)

"Le Moyne College's ranking in the 2012 edition of Best Colleges is Regional Universities (North), 18." Quoted FROM -> http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/le-moyne-college-2748 [rankingsandreviews.com]

* Ah, yes... there's NOTHING like using current documented FACTS from reputable & reliable sources, to make trolls "eat their words"... lol!

(So troll, tell us: How do those words of yours taste, now that they're "FLAVORED WITH THE BITTER TASTE OF DEFEAT"?)

APK

P.S.=> You'd better "brush up" on your "trolling schools", fool... because like usual? I'll just use FACTS to "dust you", as always...

... apk

Re:"Right on/top marks" but... (0)

colinrichardday (768814) | more than 2 years ago | (#38492008)

Windows NT, the forerunner/ancestor of modern Windows OS'? Last I knew of, it had 30 million++ lines of code

Does the ++ apply to million, making it 31,000,000, or is it just 30,000,001?

Re:Also Windows is just as open to them (1)

Galestar (1473827) | more than 2 years ago | (#38491998)

Not only do governments have it (which they require if it is to be used for anything classified) but universities do too.

Would some kind soul at a university in possession of said source code please put it in a torrent. kthnxbai.

Re:Given the DoD's ongoing love affair with Window (0)

bonch (38532) | more than 2 years ago | (#38490574)

This is Slashdot. Everything must be portrayed as a victory for open source and a "major setback" for competitors rather than just another business deal.

MOD bonch up (fat chance but he merits it) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38491042)

"This is Slashdot. Everything must be portrayed as a victory for open source and a "major setback" for competitors rather than just another business deal." - by bonch (38532) * on Sunday December 25, @06:36PM (#38490574)

That, & the "Pro-*NIX" crew + "penguins" around here will attempt to "spin" anything they can in just the regards you noted (when Linux for example has a security issue? They'll fight you "tooth & nail" trying to put a "spin" on it)...

* You've hit it RIGHT ON THE HEAD... & my requesting you be "modded up" is probably as likely as the NAACP electing a KKK member as their president, but? Can't hurt to try, right? Lol...

APK

P.S.=> What "bugs me" the MOST, & especially about what you noted & /. itself? Well, that for YEARS (since I've been 'lurking about' this place @ least, late 2003 or thereabouts), I heard things along the lines of:

"Linux = secure, Windows != secure" & that was a truckload of crap that I knew from the start would "backfire" on that crowd (e.g. -> IF ANYTHING EXEMPLIFIES MY STATEMENT? It's our subject/topic - ANDROID!)

WELL, little newsflash on that: They ALL have problems, they all don't ship from their oem's NEARLY as SECURED AS POSSIBLE (which varies by organization & requirements @ MANY levels, not just the OS ones), but, they can ALL BE SECURED FAR BETTER THAN THEY SHIP BY DEFAULT!

... apk

iOS Devices Already In Use (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38489960)

Actually, DOD employees have been allowed to use iOS devices since November with approval of their CIOs, and the same 'blanket' approval which Android 2.2 just received is forthcoming. So much FUD....

Re:iOS Devices Already In Use (3, Funny)

girlintraining (1395911) | more than 2 years ago | (#38490128)

Wanna play a game of thermonuclear warfare? There's an app for that.

but you need to war dial to get the number and the (1)

Joe_Dragon (2206452) | more than 2 years ago | (#38490772)

but you need to war dial to get the number and then find the back door password.

Re:iOS Devices Already In Use (1)

Hognoxious (631665) | more than 2 years ago | (#38490152)

Losing a monopoly doesn't count as a major setback?

Re:iOS Devices Already In Use (1)

HarrySquatter (1698416) | more than 2 years ago | (#38490168)

Since when did they ever have a monopoly within the DoD? Oh right, they didn't.

Re:iOS Devices Already In Use (1)

houstonbofh (602064) | more than 2 years ago | (#38490304)

Have you not seen any of the articles about RIM collapsing on itself, and spinning off the handset devision before it loses all of it's value?

Re:iOS Devices Already In Use (1)

Hognoxious (631665) | more than 2 years ago | (#38490404)

Obviously I wasn't referring to supplying stuff like tanks and aircraft carriers, you fat cunt.

Re:iOS Devices Already In Use (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38490916)

Don’t be obtuse, this has nothing to do with tanks. You were implying that iOS had some sort of monopoly in the military (presumably on cell phones?), which it never did.

Re:iOS Devices Already In Use (1)

jo_ham (604554) | more than 2 years ago | (#38491058)

Oh dear, you lose the argument by default since we can't hear you from the Naughty Step.

Either way, the implication was that iOS had a monopoly in the DoD, presumably on cellphones which is so far right of the truth I think Glenn Beck is frantically scribbling it down for his next book.

Re:iOS Devices Already In Use (1)

gatkinso (15975) | more than 2 years ago | (#38491332)

I don't see iOS listed on the NIAP.

Re:iOS Devices Already In Use (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38491722)

Wrong. the iOS approval is only a DISA "ISCG", not a STIG. It's not the same blanket approval. It's only for very limited use case pilots. The CIO approval is from the Departmental CIO, which is significant.

Misleading headline; Why? (4, Interesting)

bogaboga (793279) | more than 2 years ago | (#38489966)

This doesn't mean that DoD employees can use any Android phone. The Pentagon has approved only Dell's hardware running Android 2.2.

How about a headline that goes:

Dell scores one with Android

More accurate, right?

Re:Misleading headline; Why? (3, Funny)

aplusjimages (939458) | more than 2 years ago | (#38490130)

I was thinking:
Uncle Sam Hates Steve Jobs
That'll get more reads

Re:Misleading headline; Why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38490526)

So close to a haiku :(

Re:Misleading headline; Why? (1)

drkstr1 (2072368) | more than 2 years ago | (#38491260)

I was just thinking:
Uncle Sam Must Hate Steve Jobs
That'll get more reads

FIFY :)

Re:Misleading headline; Why? (0)

bonch (38532) | more than 2 years ago | (#38490604)

Slashdot is typically very pro-Android; at least, the commenters and moderators are. It makes sense that the editors would post stories that tap into the existing sentiment of their demographic, because Slashdot makes its money from ads, and generating interest also generates page views. Rather than just another Dell business deal, the headline is reworded to make it sound like Android itself is "approved by the Pentagon," and the submission is worded to appear as a victory for open source and a "major setback" for Apple. Slashdot still fetishizes marketshare like it's 1999, when Apple has never treated that as their top priority. Arstechnica's Siracusa worded Steve Jobs's attitude in this way: Apple would rather lose than suck.

Re:Misleading headline; Why? (1)

ChunderDownunder (709234) | more than 2 years ago | (#38490834)

Slashdot is typically very pro-Android; at least, the commenters and moderators are.

Not me - I'm still hoping for a debian-based fusion of webos, meego and wayland, running Android apps in an IcedRobot container.

I think Slashdot is more pro-Cyanogenmod than pro-Android. Plus hating Apple is fun for some people.

Re:Misleading headline; Why? (1)

RobbieThe1st (1977364) | more than 2 years ago | (#38490920)

/me agrees completely.
My Maemo-based N900 is excellent, but the hardware's getting slightly old.

Re:Misleading headline; Why? (0)

bonch (38532) | more than 2 years ago | (#38490930)

I think Slashdot is more pro-Cyanogenmod than pro-Android. Plus hating Apple is fun for some people.

I agree that it's fun for some people, but the problem is that people are getting modded down now if they praise anything Apple does or criticize anything related to Google or Android.

Re:Misleading headline; Why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38491174)

Reading your post history, it appears that you are being moderated down for what basically amounts to trolling. Instead of accepting that your point of view may be in the minority, you continually complain that everyone else on Slashdot is biased, and hint that they are stupid for not agreeing with your point of view. You further suggest that people with alternative points of view are basically mindless sheeple who are being sold by Slashdot or Google or whoever to generate income (but obviously YOU are totally different). If you make a particular point of bashing Slashdot and its users, and being deliberately arrogant and antagonistic, then you are likely to be moderated down. Otoh, if you didn't intend your posts to come across in this way, then you should reconsider your style of writing.

Re:Misleading headline; Why? (1)

antifoidulus (807088) | more than 2 years ago | (#38490686)

Actually you are more right than you realize. For the most part the DoD doesn't actually go out and look for stuff to approve, the companies themselves have to submit their products to be "Common Criteria" certified. After which the DoD evaluates and either approves or declines the submitted hw/sw... this is all done on the companies dime. So in all likelihood Dell actually paid a decent chunk of change to get this thing certified in hopes that they can sell a lot of units to the DoD.

Carrier IQ (3, Interesting)

farnsworth (558449) | more than 2 years ago | (#38489972)

I've always wondered how the military et al cope with things like Carrier IQ. Do they get special builds of iOS and Android that exclude it? How do they keep top secret data from leaking out to third parties?

Re:Carrier IQ (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38490016)

They're the ones writing things like Carrier IQ.

Re:Carrier IQ (4, Informative)

viperidaenz (2515578) | more than 2 years ago | (#38490092)

Its my understanding you don't need a "special build" of Android to not get Carrier IQ. You need a "special build" to get it - like those created by/for the carriers

Re:Carrier IQ (1)

gl4ss (559668) | more than 2 years ago | (#38490262)

Its my understanding you don't need a "special build" of Android to not get Carrier IQ. You need a "special build" to get it - like those created by/for the carriers

correct. with ios it was probably bit tricker since they baked it in by default for some versions and I suppose thats one of the reasons they removed it, so they wouldn't be excluded from certifications in future.

and well, for everyday things except combat stuff, military would trust telecoms as usual customers(meetings where they discuss stuff like if some base gets budget or not - those talks are with politicians anyhow).

and the secret, combat etc stuff goes over their own radios and coms anyhow. in most militaries anyways.

Re:Carrier IQ (1)

AG the other (1169501) | more than 2 years ago | (#38490100)

If such a thing as Carrier IQ were on a phone under review by DOD it would have to be removed.

Re:Carrier IQ (2)

Baloroth (2370816) | more than 2 years ago | (#38490436)

How do they keep top secret data from leaking out to third parties?

First of all, you don't put top secret stuff on your phone. That is a quick way to lose your security clearance. There are very strict rules about what top secret data can and cannot be placed on: putting it on public-internet facing devices like a phone will get you in shitloads of trouble. It's possible they have Android builds that work on SIPRNET (I've heard the President gets something like that from Blackberry) with a physical switch (SIPRNET devices have to be physically separate in some way from ARPANET devices), but this doesn't sound at all similar. So classified information should never be on these devices to be leaked.

Re:Carrier IQ (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38491148)

Do you really think these things will be used to handle classified information?

Re:Carrier IQ (1)

farnsworth (558449) | more than 2 years ago | (#38492220)

Do you really think these things will be used to handle classified information?

This is why I asked the question -- I don't know. How do you connect to wifi in the Pentagon without having your credentials keylogged? This is my question.

Uhhh ... iOS is ALREADY in use by the DoD (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38489988)

Yeah ... except for the small fact the iOS devices have already been in use in combat zones by the DoD for over a year. Welcome to the game Android, you're a bit late. Textron Systems has been deploying iPad and iPhone based systems for the DoD for well over a year ... in combat use at that. Welcome to the game a little too late as usual Android.

Re:Uhhh ... iOS is ALREADY in use by the DoD (2)

Locutus (9039) | more than 2 years ago | (#38490038)

and they just lost that exclusivity. The article was rather down on iOS but I got that this means Android got the nod going forward.

The competition is good for everyone as long as one player isn't dominating and controlling. So, it's really not a big deal for Apple and it may cause some benefits should Apple want back into that game.

LoB

Re:Uhhh ... iOS is ALREADY in use by the DoD (1)

HarrySquatter (1698416) | more than 2 years ago | (#38490044)

I wouldn't be too quick to use this stupid article as any sort of actual insight into the DoD. What this person is claiming is mostly incorrect.

Re:Uhhh ... iOS is ALREADY in use by the DoD (0)

bonch (38532) | more than 2 years ago | (#38490624)

The competition is good for everyone as long as one player isn't dominating and controlling. So, it's really not a big deal for Apple and it may cause some benefits should Apple want back into that game.

You're right, but it's amusing that this submission claims a "major setback" for Apple even though the story is simply that iOS is no longer exclusively used by the DoD. Apple is a consumer electronics company; government use is nice, but it's probably barely even on their radar.

I really wish Slashdot wasn't so partisan and would just report all tech news journalistically. It often has too much of an evangelist slant, which is disappointing because it could harbor one of the most interesting communities in tech reporting if it reported all sides. There are so many partisan news sites now that Slashdot could stand out, but instead it narrows itself into a particular niche and only attracts certain users.

You insensitive clOd... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38489998)

You Forgot Your BRIEFCASE! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38490010)

/whammy burger

iOS approved already (5, Informative)

Dupple (1016592) | more than 2 years ago | (#38490018)

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/steelcloud-announces-new-dod-platforms-for-securing-good-technology-and-apple-ios-128885828.html [prnewswire.com] ASHBURN, Va., Sept. 1, 2011 /PRNewswire/ ---- SteelCloud, Inc. (OTCQB: SCLD.PK), a leading developer of mobility appliance and VMware® solutions today announced the release of MobileWorks, its newest mobile appliance developed for the U.S. Department of Defense (DoD). In conjunction with the recent approval of the use of Apple® iOS devices within the DoD, SteelCloud is pleased to offer the immediate availability of MobileWorks DE for the STIG and security configuration guidance compliant platform deployment of the Good For Government mobile security suite.

Re:iOS approved already (1)

DavidinAla (639952) | more than 2 years ago | (#38490544)

Don't confuse the fanboys with facts like this. Since they hate Apple, it MUST be "a serious setback" for Apple.

Re:iOS approved already (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38490652)

spoken like a true fanboy

Re:iOS approved already (2)

jellomizer (103300) | more than 2 years ago | (#38491216)

A fanboy will defend his product on all levels and be quite joyous for any victory it obtains as a major victory. A hater will find any flaw and use it why the product sucks, and any setback they will quit joyous as it will seem like a major victory.

Using a chess analogy. Apple just lost a pawn. They knew it will happen. But in the mean time apple has Horton market share and mind share (where all other devices will need to be compared with apples)

PenisBerry Phone (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38490028)

I want a penis berry phone, shaped like a penis and tastes like sweet berries.

Major setback? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38490078)

Why is this a "major setback" for the iPhone? Why do Android fans take such glee in sniping like this in press releases? This is great news for Android and great news for choice in a major government space. Why does it have to be a major setback to anyone?

Drop the wars, already. That is so 1998.

Re:Major setback? (1)

HarrySquatter (1698416) | more than 2 years ago | (#38490114)

Because the author of the article is an idiot and probably has no DoD experience or works in any capacity within or contracting for the DoD.

Re:Major setback? (1)

jeremyp (130771) | more than 2 years ago | (#38490392)

FTA

Starts & Stripes repots, “Android, developed by Google and other companies, is open source software meaning it can be easily configured by uses – including DOD tech whizzes who want to install security measures.”
The Army is already doing widespread testing of prototype smartphone-like devices for use in combat, These devices could change the Army's tactics, reports Stars & Strips.

The author is an idiot who can't spell writing for a magazine that doesn't copy edit.

Ob (1, Funny)

Hognoxious (631665) | more than 2 years ago | (#38490132)

Don't ask, don't D^htell.

It doesn't have Carrier IQ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38490314)

Perhaps they just decided to use the Android version that Dell is doing with China.... It was only a matter of time before the Chinese were doing the software for the DOD....

No device encryption? DOD is getting soft (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38490402)

iDevices and Blackberries have robust, whole-device encryption and remote-wipe capabilities.

Android devices generally don't, though the capability is perpetually imminent. See http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=8686

Has Dell implemented something special for its phones? If so, that represents a rare differentiator in the Android world.

Re:No device encryption? DOD is getting soft (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38490880)

Except, Android devices generally do. When you attach an Android phone to a Microsoft Exchange account, the administrator of the Exchange server can remote-wipe the phone.

Also, there is native whole-device encryption available for Android. The carriers generally do not enable it, though.

Just in time (1)

WindBourne (631190) | more than 2 years ago | (#38490532)

Now China can scan all of the DOD's data without having to put spies into America. Go Dell.

DoD 5 E's a Hack Away (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38490950)

Jeezus.

There was a time long ago when DoD employees were not allowed to own a cell-phone let alone bring one into a SCIF.

No wonder we are loosing.

First DADT falls and now Android is used... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38491102)

Do these fags know no limits?!?!?

GSxnaa (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38491224)

Tri0mphs would soon 'doing sometKhing'

DARPA Transformative Apps (1)

gatkinso (15975) | more than 2 years ago | (#38491336)

Read up on that, ignore the article.

DOD did not APRROVE (2)

fluffy99 (870997) | more than 2 years ago | (#38491992)

The reality is that DOD has issued a Secure Technical Implementation Guide (STIG) that must be followed if you are trying to get a Designated Approving Authority (DAA) to issue an Approval To Operate (ATO). Actually implementing a secure architecture and getting approval for sensitive unclass, much less classified is a whole different issue.

I guarantee that approval means the user will not have Android market access and will not be able to arbitrarily install applications. Depending on the setup, an approved android phone may very well have less capability than a Blackberry.

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