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Satellite Piece Crashes Through Man's Roof

samzenpus posted more than 2 years ago | from the return-to-sender dept.

Space 121

PolygamousRanchKid writes "A Siberian resident miraculously escaped serious injury or even death when a fragment of a Russian communication satellite crashed through the roof of his house. A Meridian satellite that was launched Friday from the Plesetsk space center in northern Russia on board a Soyuz-2 carrier rocket crashed near the Siberian city of Tobolsk minutes after lift-off. A titanium ball of about five kg fell on to the roof of a house in Ordyn district."

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Gravity (1)

Osgeld (1900440) | more than 2 years ago | (#38490986)

How does that work?

How does that work? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38491000)

With Fucking Magnets.

Re:How does that work? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38491228)

Fukken miracles!

Re:How does that work? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38491346)

ICP - Miracles for those that don't get the reference ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-agl0pOQfs

Re:How does that work? (4, Funny)

flimflammer (956759) | more than 2 years ago | (#38491436)

I lose brain cells every time I hear this.

Re:How does that work? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38491524)

i booze crane bells

Re:How does that work? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38491640)

I lose brain cells every time someone who thinks they're smart posts responses like yours under the guise that..... they're smart.

Lighten up.

Re:How does that work? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38492306)

ICP fans aren't allowed here. Get the fuck out.

Re:How does that work? (1)

FairAndHateful (2522378) | more than 2 years ago | (#38491650)

ICP - Miracles for those that don't get the reference ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-agl0pOQfs [youtube.com]

Wow... An ICP song that doesn't make my brain or my soul hurt... That IS a miracle!

Re:How does that work? (1)

dvdwholesale3 (2432850) | more than 2 years ago | (#38492544)

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Re:Gravity (1)

vencs (1937504) | more than 2 years ago | (#38491630)

oh that.. its simple: 5kg = ~11 lbs.

Got it?

--
well, upyourkarma!

Safe taxi service (1)

Zibodiz (2160038) | more than 2 years ago | (#38490996)

Reading this, all I could think was that I feel bad for the Nasa astronauts. This is their only option for getting to the ISS now.

Re:Safe taxi service (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38492580)

Reading this, all I could think was that I feel bad for the Nasa astronauts. This is their only option for getting to the ISS now.

Whatever, we still have the option that the US Congress approved. Namely, fairy kisses and unicorn farts.

Re:Safe taxi service (1)

Runaway1956 (1322357) | more than 2 years ago | (#38492812)

Fairy kisses? Congress gets plenty of those, judging by the newspaper articles. Unicorn farts? Hmmm - citation needed.

In postsoviet Russia... (0)

tommten (212387) | more than 2 years ago | (#38491004)

satellite gets you

Re:In postsoviet Russia... (1)

Tyrannosaur (2485772) | more than 2 years ago | (#38491010)

HAHA except it didn't get him- in postsoviet Russia objects aren't strong enough anymore to do things to you

Re:In postsoviet Russia... (1)

Alwin Henseler (640539) | more than 2 years ago | (#38491032)

No strength required to kill you - only weight.

Re:In postsoviet Russia... (1)

Froggels (1724218) | more than 2 years ago | (#38492698)

Or blunt trauma

Re:In postsoviet Russia... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38491090)

As opposed to everyone else "getting satellite"? Hey, that does make sense, hehe...

Does he get to keep it? (4, Interesting)

Tyrannosaur (2485772) | more than 2 years ago | (#38491006)

So I read the article twice- are they going to fix his house for him? Does his insurance cover "terminal velocity" damages? I vote he gets to keep the 5kg titanium ball at least - a souvenir from the great russian space program :)

Re:Does he get to keep it? (4, Interesting)

Nyeerrmm (940927) | more than 2 years ago | (#38491378)

My renters insurance and at least specifies that it covers damage from 'aircraft and spacecraft'.

So... possibly yes?

Re:Does he get to keep it? (1)

Frosty Piss (770223) | more than 2 years ago | (#38491552)

Does his insurance cover...

1. It's in Siberia - you think he has insurance?

2. Even if he did, read YOUR homeowners / renters insurance - "acts of God" are not covered.

3. "Acts of God" are defined as anything your insurance company doesn't want to pay for, i.e. everything.

Insurance: You have to have it, but it's virtually worthless.

Re:Does he get to keep it? (1, Informative)

Ethanol-fueled (1125189) | more than 2 years ago | (#38491672)

Here in the U.S.(and within a few miles of where I was working when it happened!) a military pilot student bailed from his malfunctioning F-18, [examiner.com] leaving it crashing into 2 houses and almost singlehandedly wiping out a family.

The military offered them an undisclosed sum, probably a few million bucks, and they said, "Fuck you, we want 56 million, see your asses in court." And they'll probably get at least half of that considering the string of errors led to the crash.

Re:Does he get to keep it? (2)

cstacy (534252) | more than 2 years ago | (#38491820)

1. It's in Siberia - you think he has insurance?

I imagine he bought it from "Peggy".

Re:Does he get to keep it? (1)

mysidia (191772) | more than 2 years ago | (#38492392)

2. Even if he did, read YOUR homeowners / renters insurance - "acts of God" are not covered.

Getting hit by debris fallen from a man made satellite does not fall under "acts of God"; it's a man-made disaster, and the responsible party is the organization that launched the satellite and failed to contain debris -- the crashing of debris is an entirely forseeable reslult of launching a satelite, and the crashing debris is a result of human error.

An act of god is when you have an earthquake,or lightning strikes a healthy tree in your yard, and the tree falls over, crashing into your house, a tornado touches down and rips your roof off, or a volcano erupts and turns your house into a barren lava field.

Re:Does he get to keep it? (1)

jcr (53032) | more than 2 years ago | (#38492810)

I'd imagine he could auction it off for enough to repair the roof.

-jcr

Re:Does he get to keep it? (1)

temcat (873475) | more than 2 years ago | (#38492842)

He most certainly doesn't have an insurance. Few people do here (not just in Siberia specifically, but in Russia as a whole).

There is an important piece of information missing (5, Interesting)

lsh123 (852261) | more than 2 years ago | (#38491016)

The house is located on Cosmonauts Street (no, this is not a joke)

Re:There is an important piece of information miss (1)

Elbereth (58257) | more than 2 years ago | (#38491052)

Granted, that's not ironic... but it sure is amusingly coincidental.

Re:There is an important piece of information miss (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38491372)

Be a real coincidence if the guy's name was Rick.

Re:There is an important piece of information miss (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38491760)

Mark. Because nobody names their kid, "Bullseye".

Re:There is an important piece of information miss (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38491742)

Just put ice cream sandwich on my Xoom so now I'm testing keyboard lag. There isn't any. FINALLY. Anybody with a Xoom, proceed directly to xda.

damn you (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38491762)

Well I put an Ice Cream Sandwich on my Xoom and now it's sticky as hell and the buttons on the side don't work anymore. So thanks a lot buddy!

Re:damn you (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38491788)

Damn, my bad, bruh. Should have mentioned that part.

Re:There is an important piece of information miss (5, Informative)

Reservoir Penguin (611789) | more than 2 years ago | (#38491926)

Some corrections since it fell near where I live and a lot of people got to observe the fiery trail we thought it was a plane actually)

1) It crashed in Ordyn district of Novosibirsk region, not Tobolsk which is to the west.
2) There is a Cosmanauts street in nearly every Russian town and from what I hear fragments were discovered all over Ordynsk, so the irony is a bit misplaced here.
I'm too concerned about apparently poor quality control with recent launches. I agree that it's most likely due to loss of experience due to aging workforce.

Re:There is an important piece of information miss (1)

Froggels (1724218) | more than 2 years ago | (#38492718)

From what time I have spent in Russia I get the impression that nearly every town there has a street by that name.

Re:There is an important piece of information miss (1)

temcat (873475) | more than 2 years ago | (#38492850)

Probably, but nothing beats Lenin. I bet that "Lenin street" is still the single most common street name in Russia.

Something fell off? (2)

Alwin Henseler (640539) | more than 2 years ago | (#38491018)

First paragraph from the article:

The Meridian communications satellite failed to reach orbit yesterday due to a failure with its Soyuz rocket, in the latest setback for a Russian space program which has now lost over half a dozen satellites in the past year.

That's unusual... from what I know most Russian-built stuff is designed to have bits fall off, and then carry on as if nothing happened.

Hmm a "sphere" - maybe another fuel tank like in that Namibia incident?

Re:Something fell off? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38492020)

That was the other one. Now the heavens sing only tenor and up.

This isn't miraculous. It's merely fortunate. (4, Insightful)

AuraSeer (409950) | more than 2 years ago | (#38491076)

"Miraculous" should be reserved for things that are difficult to believe, or at least wildly improbable. If the satellite fell out of the sky and hit the guy in the face, but he walked off unscathed, then you could say he "miraculously escaped injury."

But being missed by the debris is not a miracle. It just demonstrates how small a target a person is.

Re:This isn't miraculous. It's merely fortunate. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38491118)

Who cares.

Re:This isn't miraculous. It's merely fortunate. (-1, Troll)

GNUALMAFUERTE (697061) | more than 2 years ago | (#38491150)

Nothing is a miracle because there are no gods and no such thing as a supernatural. Therefore, by definition, no such thing as miracles.

Re:This isn't miraculous. It's merely fortunate. (5, Funny)

AuraSeer (409950) | more than 2 years ago | (#38491168)

I didn't say it was a miracle. "Miraculous" as an adjective can mean something looks similar to a miracle. It does not necessarily imply that an event is literally due to the intervention of a supernatural divine force.

But hey, thanks for your input anyhow, Easily Offended Overly Dramatic Atheist Guy Who Takes The Slightest Excuse To Announce His Atheist Atheism. I keep hearing stories about you but it's nice to finally meet you in person.

Re:This isn't miraculous. It's merely fortunate. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38491298)

What do you expect out of an obvious open sores fag? Uptight and totally out of contact with the real world. That about sums it up for the majority of active Slashtards.

Re:This isn't miraculous. It's merely fortunate. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38491322)

So... something that looks similar to something that never happened?

Re:This isn't miraculous. It's merely fortunate. (2)

flimflammer (956759) | more than 2 years ago | (#38491464)

You are trying way too hard. A genuine miracle may have never happened before but that doesn't preclude us from defining the idea of a miracle.

Re:This isn't miraculous. It's merely fortunate. (1)

martin-boundary (547041) | more than 2 years ago | (#38491626)

However, a definition without a proof of existence is useless. Without existence, any definition might turn out self contradictory more likely than not.

How can you be sure that a "miracle" won't make the universe disappear?

Re:This isn't miraculous. It's merely fortunate. (2)

Your.Master (1088569) | more than 2 years ago | (#38492072)

Why are you making this argument? It's ridiculous.

We can say something looks like an interstellar spaceship, even though such a thing does not exist. We can say it looks like a cave troll, which doesn't exist -- except, of course, in stories. But then again, miracles definitely exist in stories.

How can you be sure that a "miracle" won't make the universe disappear?

This question makes no sense at all and it's also irrelevant. How can you be sure a cave troll won't make the universe disappear?

Re:This isn't miraculous. It's merely fortunate. (1)

martin-boundary (547041) | more than 2 years ago | (#38492646)

We can say something looks like an interstellar spaceship, even though such a thing does not exist. We can say it looks like a cave troll, which doesn't exist -- except, of course, in stories. But then again, miracles definitely exist in stories.

But that's the point. Interstellar spaceships do exist: Voyager is one. So if you were thinking of a small tin can with big antennas, then you weren't wrong. But if you were thinking of big movie-style vessels with FTL drives and people inside, then your mental picture was defective, because no such thing exists and no such thing is physically possible if we're talking about hollywood FTL drives for example.

Just because we give something (putatively) a name and vaguely describe some of its properties ("interstellar spaceship", "cave troll", "miracle") doesn't mean it isn't an impossible idea, ie that it is free from logical contradictions. And once there is a logical contradiction, then everything is provable to be true and false simultaneously.

That's why proving existence is crucial. It's not the only way to prove that an idea is consistent, but it's by far the simplest.

This question makes no sense at all and it's also irrelevant. How can you be sure a cave troll won't make the universe disappear?

Exactly. We can't. We don't know that the idea "cave troll" isn't self contradictory until we prove it, or find one and point to it.

Re:This isn't miraculous. It's merely fortunate. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38491642)

Easily Offended Overly Dramatic Atheist Guy Who Takes The Slightest Excuse To Announce His Atheist Atheism. I keep hearing stories about you but it's nice to finally meet you in person.

Nice to meet you too. Hey, did you know I also don't have a television? [theonion.com]

Re:This isn't miraculous. It's merely fortunate. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38492202)

There are many versions of this person:

1. Pothead Who Was High, Is Now High, and Wants To Get High Real Soon And Needs To Tell You All About It.
2. Christian Who Needs To Remind You That You're Going To Hell Unless You Accept Christ Into Your Life.
3. Free Software User Who Suggests Difficult To Use Programs As A Replacement For Popular Commercial Software.

Sorry you had to run into one of them.

Re:This isn't miraculous. It's merely fortunate. (1)

mrchaotica (681592) | more than 2 years ago | (#38492704)

...it's nice to finally meet you in person.

You met him in person on Slashdot? That really is a miracle!

Re:This isn't miraculous. It's merely fortunate. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38491422)

No gods ... no supernatural.. how do you claim to KNOW this? All you can say is no (conclusive) proof exists for most of the claims made thus far. But even that, you can only say that with some level of probability. Your absolute certainty shows the sign of a defective brain. But hey, we already knew that looking at your moronic comments.

 

Re:This isn't miraculous. It's merely fortunate. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38491532)

By that logic, I also don't KNOW that there aren't invisble pink elephants that live in my walls and seceretly control my life. There's an infinity of things I can't prove don't exist. It's therefore meaningless. You show me the proof for something "supernatural" and it becomes natural. Show me the proof for a god, pick any one you want, there's thousands of 'em, supposedly.

Sorry buddy, I know it sucks but it's just you, me, 6999999998 other people and zillions of other life forms on this planet. No gods, no baby jesus, no invisble sky friend.

Re:This isn't miraculous. It's merely fortunate. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38492080)

Your argument is fallacious because it is self-defeating. To whit:

How do you know that all he can say is no (conclusive) proof exists for the claims made thus far? All you can say is that no (conclusive) proof exists that he has no (conclusive) proof for the claims made thus far. But even for that, you can only say that with some level of probability. [Generic asshole-ish personal attacks]

Re:This isn't miraculous. It's merely fortunate. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38492808)

You should submit a article to slashdot with this new finding of yours! It's amazing! Your a freaking genius!

Re:This isn't miraculous. It's merely fortunate. (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38491176)

Wait, I’m supposed to accept skepticism from someone with an account name of “AuraSeer”?

Re:This isn't miraculous. It's merely fortunate. (1)

element-o.p. (939033) | more than 2 years ago | (#38491190)

Of course, based exclusively upon his (her?) account name. I mean, that's the only rational basis for agreeing or disagreeing with someone, right? After all, objectively the weighing the veracity (or lack thereof) of a person's comments makes no sense whatsoever, right? </sarc>

Re:This isn't miraculous. It's merely fortunate. (2)

AuraSeer (409950) | more than 2 years ago | (#38491268)

Perhaps I picked the name because I used to get migraines [wikipedia.org] . Those can come with focal neurological symptoms called "aura," ranging from nausea and vertigo all the way up to hallucinations.

Or maybe I'm a big hippy.

Or else I created the username fifteen years ago, it seeemed to sound good at the time, and I no longer remember the exact reason.

What's the difference?

Re:This isn't miraculous. It's merely fortunate. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38491570)

I thought you were referencing the role Aura Seer in one of the many rules variants of the Werewolf game. :3

Re:This isn't miraculous. It's merely fortunate. (2)

catchblue22 (1004569) | more than 2 years ago | (#38491234)

Given how unlikely it is for a piece of space debris to hit any particular target, I would count this person as being extraordinarily unlucky to come even close to getting hit. It's the same fallacy at work when someone gets into an accident and survives. They are counted as being lucky to survive, when the person was in fact extremely unlucky to be in an accident in the first place.

Re:This isn't miraculous. It's merely fortunate. (1)

rossdee (243626) | more than 2 years ago | (#38491916)

"It's the same fallacy at work when someone gets into an accident and survives. They are counted as being lucky to survive, when the person was in fact extremely unlucky to be in an accident in the first place."

In this case yes, since the accident has nothing to do with what he was doing at the time (as opposed to most auto accidents where the fault lies with the driver (distracted or under the influence etc)

I know Siberia is a big place, but how far was this from Tunguska?

Re:This isn't miraculous. It's merely fortunate. (1)

nirgle (554262) | more than 2 years ago | (#38491702)

Yeah, because right before hitting Publish, most people go back over their article to make sure every word is well thought out so as not to offend the linguistically sensitive of the world.

Re:This isn't miraculous. It's merely fortunate. (1)

Macman408 (1308925) | more than 2 years ago | (#38492454)

Agreed. This guy wasn't saved by a miracle, just by statistics. Even in the smallest of homes, a falling object is more likely to hit unoccupied space than a person, even if it's quite crowded.

For that matter, it doesn't even sound like the object penetrated the roof; the story says it "crashed into the roof" and the owner had to go outside before he saw the damage.

Because someone will say it (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38491080)

It Soviet Russia, satellite crashes YOU!

Donnie Darkov (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38491082)

Did he get a warning from Frankovsky the giant rabbit? :)

Clarification - fact checking (1)

wbr1 (2538558) | more than 2 years ago | (#38491108)

/. Needs to watch the submissions a little closer. The article clearly states that the sphere hit his roof, not crashed through it.
/. = good
/. + sensationalism = bad

Re:Clarification - fact checking (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38491138)

If a 5kg sphere of titanium falling from a failed satellite launch hit this guy's roof yet failed to crash through it then apparently this guy lives in a heavily reinforced bunker.

Re:Clarification - fact checking (1)

grumling (94709) | more than 2 years ago | (#38491290)

If his roof is damaged, he should be able to afford repairs:

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=5kg+platinum+price [wolframalpha.com]

Re:Clarification - fact checking (2)

zill (1690130) | more than 2 years ago | (#38491408)

I think you meant titanium. [wolframalpha.com]

What's wrong with their space program? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38491122)

And is anything less reliable than a Russian rocket at the moment?

Re:What's wrong with their space program? (1)

AHuxley (892839) | more than 2 years ago | (#38491200)

The past was built on "Gulag" science and some German technicians not found by the US/UK/French teams.
If the closed Soviet science city performed, you got good food and the joy of been on the short list for an apartment.
If not - much worse job, Gulag or death.
Now all Russia has is ageing Soviet era teams and young people trained on imported western computer tech trying to pick over what was not lost or sold off in the 1990's.
Nothing really worked that well, in the past it was just all airbrushed out.

Re:What's wrong with their space program? (2)

fred911 (83970) | more than 2 years ago | (#38491238)

Yes, our economy.

Re:What's wrong with their space program? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38491908)

I don't know right now, but last year it would've been the Space Shuttle.

No joke! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38491196)

In Soviet Russia [google.com] , the man's roof was already in such condition, and he had been drinking when he decided to make the ridiculous report. Investigators could find no evidence of his suggestion, but found the roof to be an unacceptable public hazard. The local council will deliberate on financing its repair after the Next Year's festivities.

In soviet Russia (0)

Joe_Dragon (2206452) | more than 2 years ago | (#38491204)

Satellite spy on you!

In Soviet Russia... (2, Informative)

Megane (129182) | more than 2 years ago | (#38491214)

YOU find satellite!

(Damn kids trying to do ISR memes these days, get off my lawn.)

Re:In Soviet Russia... (1)

KingAlanI (1270538) | more than 2 years ago | (#38492226)

what's "ISR" in this context?

Re:In Soviet Russia... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38492380)

what's "ISR" in this context?

"In Soviet Russia"

Re:In Soviet Russia... (1)

fistacorpse (1873964) | more than 2 years ago | (#38492396)

"In Soviet Russia"

Was he a subversive? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38491248)

Or did they miss :P

I wonder (1)

koan (80826) | more than 2 years ago | (#38491270)

If this is related to the "space ball" that landed in Namibia.

Re:I wonder (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38491366)

That is now two balls that have dropped from the sky, we are now officially being tea-bagged by the universe.

Nasa?? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38491352)

How about Myth Busters!

The Myth of the Cow Jumping Over the Moon (1)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 2 years ago | (#38491356)

When questioned about this metal ball hurtling through an unsuspecting person's house, Adam Savage would only reply with: 'No comment'.

Re:The Myth of the Cow Jumping Over the Moon (1)

Tablizer (95088) | more than 2 years ago | (#38492308)

Now whenever something odd happens, people will suspect the Mythbusters first.

When reached for comment.... (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38491414)

The Mythbusters crew said "It wasn't us this time!"

Is it just me or epidemy of man made objs falls? (1)

youn (1516637) | more than 2 years ago | (#38491590)

yesterday the namibia object, today this one... lots of object falling... london bridge is ok but the freaking sky litterally is litterally falling down

Re:Is it just me or epidemy of man made objs falls (1)

Donwulff (27374) | more than 2 years ago | (#38491960)

While it's not quite "literally", add to that this [youtube.com] , seen over much of central Europe on the Christmas eve. Curiously (and echoing somewhat the confusion on the other recent space-debris reports), news-outlets are following officials quoting it's either "99.9% certainly a meteorite" or the story about that having been the failed Meridian launch. Based on information from USSTRATCOM (ex NORAD) [blogspot.com] this was re-entry of the rocket stage from the successful ISS mission. Yet I don't think they've ever been quite this spectacular before!

Soyuz vs Mythbusters (4, Funny)

mbone (558574) | more than 2 years ago | (#38491628)

The Russians, not having Mythbusters [washingtonpost.com] , have to resort to expensive rockets to mess up local neighborhoods.

and internet commenters have to resort to (1)

decora (1710862) | more than 2 years ago | (#38492672)

the bizarre contrast in the way these stories were reported.

mythbusters:

crazy experiment goes wrong, smashes through two houses and a car.

russian satellite:

incompetent russians almost kill man with space debris.

----------

difference? mythbusters actually almost killed several people. the russians only almost killed one guy.

The sky is falling! (2)

Zoson (300530) | more than 2 years ago | (#38491726)

First space balls, now this?!

Re:The sky is falling! (1)

Jbcarpen (883850) | more than 2 years ago | (#38492734)

First space balls, now this?!

A titanium ball of about five kg fell on to the roof of a house in Ordyn district.

No, no, this is still space balls.

kg (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38491732)

In United States customary units, 5 kilograms = 11.0231 lbs = 11 pounds and 0.36 ounces.

Commercial lift services have to be reliable (3, Informative)

msobkow (48369) | more than 2 years ago | (#38491784)

With the age of their lift system, you'd think the Russians would have the kinks ironed out by now. I can understand something new like their Mars mission failing, but five commercial launches in a year?

Those payloads are far too expensive and time consuming to trust to a lift provider with such a poor track record.

Re:Commercial lift services have to be reliable (1)

Osgeld (1900440) | more than 2 years ago | (#38491844)

Hey its no more reliable than the US programs where each attempt was delayed for at least a month as they ran around like chickens with their heads cut off looking for leaky gaskets and flappy bits of foam dangling from their 1970's rusty old beaters.

Re:Commercial lift services have to be reliable (2)

msobkow (48369) | more than 2 years ago | (#38492200)

Better to delay a month re-checking everything than to blow up the whole shipment. NASA may have often been late, but they didn't lose very many launches as a result.

It'll be interesting to see how some of the newer private lift companies fare -- is their rethinking and updated engineering going to result in more reliable delivery, or more failures?

I'm also curious to see how the Chinese fare as they step forth into space -- so far they're doing pretty good.

I'm surprised (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38492586)

That less than half of the comments are Soviet Russia jokes.

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