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Customers Gleefully Mock Best Buy's $1,095.99 HDMI

samzenpus posted more than 2 years ago | from the king-of-cables dept.

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First time accepted submitter Forthan Red writes "It may be a pricing bot run amok, or a ridiculously over-inflated sense of worth, but Best Buy has been offering an HDMI cable for a whopping $1,095.99 (currently sold out!). While Best Buy seems to be oblivious to the absurdity of this price for a digital cable, those posting customer reviews are not. Enjoy the mockery!" One of my favorites is: "saved a ton of money on a new TV on black Friday and decided to use the extra cash to get the best cable available. At a whopping 3.3 feet in length, this cable is no joke. When all my friends come over to watch football, they always say 'WOW what kind of HDMI cable do you have?' I proudly tell them about my audioquest diamond and its advanced features such as its Dark Gray/Black finish. It is a great conversation piece! Not to mention it fits into my dvd player and tv perfectly."

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They may be mocking the price but (-1, Troll)

InterestingFella (2537066) | more than 2 years ago | (#38493826)

There are many uses for cables that really are perfect quality, made with best parts and are harder and more professional than your usual home cables. Usually they are required in production environments, not for your home HDTV. Same is true for video as in this case, but also audio. The prices can seemingly look high, but remember that these products are used for professional work.

Re:They may be mocking the price but (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38493848)

Yes, how dare you philistines mock the $1,095 HDMI cable? The zeros and ones are so much sharper and clearer than the zeros and ones transmitted over cheap cable.

Re:They may be mocking the price but (1, Insightful)

Timbo (75953) | more than 2 years ago | (#38493854)

Can't tell if troll or not. HDMI is a digital interface so cable quality isn't all that important.

Re:They may be mocking the price but (4, Informative)

Joce640k (829181) | more than 2 years ago | (#38494176)

Humor. You don't have it.

Re:They may be mocking the price but (1, Troll)

Timbo (75953) | more than 2 years ago | (#38494242)

Yep, I have humour.

Re:They may be mocking the price but (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38494344)

Yep, I have humour.

Citation needed.

Re:They may be mocking the price but (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38494310)

Canadian. Nuff said.

Re:They may be mocking the price but (1)

JavaBear (9872) | more than 2 years ago | (#38494192)

I guess Poe's law applies to more than just religion :)

Re:They may be mocking the price but (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38494246)

This is Slashdot. Technology is religion for most of us here.

Re:They may be mocking the price but (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38494236)

You don't understand technology much. All our glorious digital is made with analog signals, and we use points on the wave as on/off points to simulate digital.

It may not matter much, but it's possible.

The cable is stupid.

Re:They may be mocking the price but (4, Funny)

Pharmboy (216950) | more than 2 years ago | (#38493860)

So, you are saying you really believe that this is an $1100 cable and that people actually buy these? This cable manages to transcend the laws of physics somehow, and while other digital cables either transmit the 100% digital signal, or don't, this one manages to transmit more than 100% of the 0s and 1s and delivers more data than was fed into it? Or do you really not understand how digital data works?

Re:They may be mocking the price but (4, Informative)

mysidia (191772) | more than 2 years ago | (#38494268)

Denon makes the AKDL1 link cable a Cable [amazon.com] that's listed for $10,000; a RJ45/8P8C patch cable, and there are reviewers who swear it's faster, really...

So I guess no... a $1000 cable isn't really any better; to get the real goods you need $10,000 for a cable.

Re:They may be mocking the price but (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38493882)

This is very true for many cables used in analog applications, for instance, when running a cable from an amplifier to a speaker, you want a nice thick, shielded cable to get the best sound quality with as little noise as possible. This is not true in digital applications. If a HDMI cable were made that was of such poor quality that some of the signal could not get through, the picture would simply not show up. Due to the fact that it's digital, a $6 wal-mart cable will literally get the (exact) same data through to your TV that this cable will, in precisely the same way that a $10 usb/dvi/ethernet cable will when compared to higher quality cables.

Because it's all 1s and 0s going though the cable, there will be no degradation of data, unless there's something really, really wrong with the cable, and in that case it just won't work at all.

Re:They may be mocking the price but (0)

fnj (64210) | more than 2 years ago | (#38493924)

AC is a doofus. Speaker cables do not need shielding. The idea is ludicrous.

Re:They may be mocking the price but (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38493984)

With a wavelength of just under 10 miles for a 15kHz signal, the necessity of shielding is a matter of how long your speaker cable is.

Re:They may be mocking the price but (3, Informative)

vlm (69642) | more than 2 years ago | (#38494164)

With a wavelength of just under 10 miles for a 15kHz signal, the necessity of shielding is a matter of how long your speaker cable is.

Most people seem to have speaker wires that make great quarterwave dipole antennas annoyingly near the 15M / 10M / 6M ham radio bands or the 11M CB band. The problem is some classical, lets say, pre 00s audio output final power amps have something of a rectifying effect on the incoming RF. So you end up hearing clearly every trucker who drives by. Trivially fixed with a bit of shielded coaxial cable. Assuming your negative speaker lead either can be grounded, or already is grounded, a couple minutes with a swiss army knife and a length of old antenna / cable tv coaxial cable will either result in a trip to the ER if you have low DEX statistics, or a nice shielded speaker wire ready to install.

You can also spend some dough on RF ferrite chokes, but frankly its usually cheaper to use scrap cable, assuming you have some laying about.

Re:They may be mocking the price but (4, Informative)

jenningsthecat (1525947) | more than 2 years ago | (#38494180)

I think you're confusing simple shielded cable with coaxial cable. No, you don't need an impedance-matched transmission line at audio frequencies, but shielding CAN be relevant with some amps in some setups. The wavelength of audio frequencies is irrelevant here - speaker cables can be efficient antennae for RF signals, which can then mix with other RF signals and/or be demodulated in the diode junctions that comprise the bi-polar transistors used in the outputs of many amps. This can cause audible artifacts, including hearing radio stations through your speakers even when there's no tuner attached to your system, especially if you're close to the transmitting tower.

As for kilo-buck HDMI cables, that IS an ultimate stupidity. However, you should be careful regarding this whole 'ones and zeros' business. At the frequencies used for HDMI, (and given the rectangular nature of the signals, frequency response up to ten times the fundamental may be important), you're basically back in the analog realm, with rise times a significant fraction of the total waveform period. Impedance mismatches, slowed waveform edges, and extraneous interference can cause jitter and increase bit error rate, and although you're unlikely to see the difference in a typical home setup, these errors can add up over multiple generations of signal transfer.

So no, there won't be any visible or audible difference between a 10 dollar HDMI cable and a thousand dollar one. Just be aware that you can't stick any old cable in there and expect good results.

Re:They may be mocking the price but (2)

Jawnn (445279) | more than 2 years ago | (#38493968)

This is very true for many cables used in analog applications, for instance, when running a cable from an amplifier to a speaker, you want a nice thick, shielded cable to get the best sound quality with as little noise as possible.

False. Shielded cable is worse that useless for speak applications. Moreover, depending on the characteristics of the amp and speaker involved, it's actually beneficial to use speaker wire with an extremely small conductor.

Re:They may be mocking the price but (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38494078)

Actually, no, wire cross section does matter, and thicker is better (lower resistance means there is less power lost on the cable and the amplifier sees an impedance that is as close as possible to the bare speaker). In fact, that's the only thing that matters. Any reasonably thick lamp cord will do just fine as a speaker cable.

Re:They may be mocking the price but (2)

Ritz_Just_Ritz (883997) | more than 2 years ago | (#38494124)

At short distances, a metal coat hanger will be indistinguishable from "audiophile" speaker cable in a blind listening test. You've got to laugh at the folks that spend thousands on interconnects, power cables and speaker cables. I liken it to people buying a Bentley instead of a Hyundai when the design requirement is to deliver groceries from point A to point B. However, human nature being what it is, these folks will always find a way to rationalize the expense with smoke, mirrors, and flowery words. And there's always that segment of people who will buy the most expensive of anything simply because they can. *shrug*

Re:They may be mocking the price but (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38494172)

You forgot to mention that the Bentley is really just a Hyundai.

Re:They may be mocking the price but (3, Funny)

Joce640k (829181) | more than 2 years ago | (#38494208)

A piece of hollow copper pipe works best due to the extra skin effect.

Plumb the pipes as close to your amplifier and speakers as possible then bridge the remaining couple of inches using 30A electric shower cable. I did this last year and the improvement in sound was remarkable. Even my wife noticed.

Implied design requirement: Status symbol (1)

davidwr (791652) | more than 2 years ago | (#38494270)

when the design requirement is to deliver groceries from point A to point B in style.

There, fixed that for you.

Seriously though, the "technical rationalization" people audiophiles use to get undetectable or even totally-absent improvements is because they dare not say "I'm buying a status symbol" or "I'm buying this to prove to my friends that I have money to burn."

Re:They may be mocking the price but (3, Informative)

vlm (69642) | more than 2 years ago | (#38494224)

Any reasonably thick lamp cord will do just fine as a speaker cable.

Go to your local home improvement store, locate the "12 volt outdoor garden lighting" area, assuming solar hasn't wiped these guys out, you can sometimes pick up off the shelf spools of really cheap heavy gauge stranded two conductor wire.

Theoretically, buying by the foot outta the electricians aisle should be cheaper, however, during one of the commodity boom/runups they were updating the price of the electricians aisle by-the-foot on a seemingly daily basis, but they never updated the price on the pre-printed spools of garden lighting wire. So I was paying maybe 10% over pre-boom per foot price for the garden wire, but I was cool with that because pay-by-the-foot had doubled or tripled and the pre-pack garden wire had not been marked up yet.

For something like the cost of an old fashioned DVD I wired up my whole 5.1 speaker system using garden wire. If I had used "best buy marked up cable prices" it probably would have cost $200 to buy all that wire.

Re:They may be mocking the price but (2, Insightful)

plate_o_shrimp (948271) | more than 2 years ago | (#38493888)

The prices can seemingly look high, but remember that these products are used for tax writeoffs.

Re:They may be mocking the price but (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38494014)

Unless they're giving me a tax "credit" I don't buy the tax "deduction" writeoff.

If I get to deduct the $1500 from my income, assuming a 33% rate, I save $500 in taxes, but I'm still short the $1000 that was spent on the cable. Not a great deal. Now, if it is a "credit," I spend $1500 but get a tax credit of $1500, so the cable cost essentially $0.

Re:They may be mocking the price but (1)

ehrichweiss (706417) | more than 2 years ago | (#38494154)

Getting $1500 of income taken off your taxes is not remotely the same as the government giving you a $1500 refund, or you getting the product for free.

Re:They may be mocking the price but (1)

Pharmboy (216950) | more than 2 years ago | (#38494250)

He said that, and he was correct. You are not understanding what he is saying. There is a difference in a tax credit and a tax deduction, and he explained it well. Try reading it again or consult your CPA.

Re:They may be mocking the price but (2)

vlm (69642) | more than 2 years ago | (#38494282)

Its on the store side. I was tangentially involved in retail management a long time ago, and you could write off stolen goods as a business loss against whatever profit you made. Things get really flakey WRT wholesale loss vs retail loss and exactly which corporation eats the loss. Having a basically "captive" wholesale supplier means you can pretty much set the wholesale price you'd like, although that is questionably legal.

The other interpretation is the stereotypical housing bubble boom activity was to refinance, then head down to best buy and pick up a $5000 TV. After the refi cash dried up, you can now get the same TV for $500. Imagine that! Theoretically you deduct your mortgage interest so although you're stuck paying for a $1000 cable for 30 years, at least you aren't paying interest on it, compared to paying $25 on a credit card at 29% for probably the same 30 years I'm not entirely sure which is worse and too lazy to calculate it. Also after the housing bubble ended and people stopped paying their mortgage, if they bought the TV more than X months/years ago they can declare bankruptcy and keep the TV, which means the bank writes off the mortgage etc etc and they have a really nice TV in their new apartment.

Except this isn't pro cable (5, Informative)

Sycraft-fu (314770) | more than 2 years ago | (#38493890)

And pro cable doesn't cost that much. The only example of pro quality HDMI cable I know of (remember HDMI is a consumer spec, pros use HD-SDI) is from Belden, sold by Bluejeans cable. It is honestly above and beyond normal cable in that you get more range out of lower gauge wire on account of the tighter tolerances it is built to. We've used it at work for runs that are out of spec since it is cheaper than getting active equalizers.

For all that it is still only $20 for a 3 foot run, and then about $3/foot after that. Not cheap, but still way less than this shit.

Remember with digital signaling there is NO room for any of the voodoo audiophiles like to claim. You can either measure the improvement on a scope or it isn't there. The signal must meet certain specs to work properly and those are easy to measure. So unless they can show better certification ranges, it is bullshit.

Also at 3 feet you don't need anything special. It is such a short distance even regular old cheap Monoprice 28AWG HDMI cable performs flawlessly at high resolutions. It is only with distance that you start to need better tolerances to get the signal through properly. Even then if it gets too far you just convert to fiber, cheaper than trying to build the world's most perfect copper cable.

Re: voodoo audiophiles like to claim (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38494100)

Remember with digital signaling there is NO room for any of the voodoo audiophiles like to claim. You can either measure the improvement on a scope or it isn't there.

Well actually there isn't any room for voodoo with analog signalling either, and you can either measure differences in analog signal quality on a scope or it isn't there too.

Not so fast (2)

davidwr (791652) | more than 2 years ago | (#38494320)

Your analog scope has a small amount of error in the signal it shows.

If your speakers and your ears are (combined) more accurate than your scope, you may be able to hear things that the scope won't measure.

In the digital world this won't matter of course. If you ears are "perfect" they will hear the inherent digital distortion and/or inherent speaker-system characteristics that come from converting the 100%-accurately-transmitted digital signal to an analog sound at the speaker or speaker-driver-circuit. No amount of "making the digital signal cleaner" will change what the hypothetical perfect human ear would hear.

Thankfully, no human ear is perfect and digital sound is "good enough" to fool almost every human ear. Likewise, any decent analog scope is going to out-measure the human ear by far.

Re:They may be mocking the price but (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38493912)

You're absolutely correct. I'm a professional audio/visual user like you describe, and we have some serious needs that just can't be met by consumer-grade cables and other equipment.

When I'm watching football with the guys, we need to have the best picture and sound quality possible. Just like we need to have the best nachos, the best salsa and the best brewskies, we need to have the best TV and the best HDMI cables, too.

When the players are bent over before the hike, we need to see ever ass contour. We need to see the tight spandex pulled over the hairy butt of a 350 lb African American offensive guard in perfect detail. We need to see exactly what body parts are massaged during a hard and powerful tackle when two strong men grope and fight each other for the ball. Speaking of the ball, we need to see each and every ball with crystal clear perfection. When the player slap each other on the bum after a touchdown, we need to see and hear the slap as if it were our own asses being hit.

Football is the most heterosexual sport there is. That's why me and the guys like to get together and watch it. No women allowed! Maybe if you watched a sport like football that wasn't so pansy you'd understand where we're coming from and why we need the best cables and the best audio visual devices.

Re:They may be mocking the price but (1, Funny)

Dunbal (464142) | more than 2 years ago | (#38493944)

Football is the most heterosexual sport there is. That's why me and the guys like to get together and watch it. No women allowed!

I think you should look up heterosexual in the dictionary. I don't think it means what you think it means.

Re:They may be mocking the price but (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38493994)

Woosh.

Re:They may be mocking the price but (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38494012)

Sarcasm maybe?

captcha: stiffest ...lol.

Re:They may be mocking the price but (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38494028)

I think you should look up heterosexual in the dictionary. I don't think it means what you think it means.

Your sarcasm detector is apparently malfunctioning. For a nominal fee, I can use some high quality HDMI cables to repair it and get it properly working again.

Re:They may be mocking the price but (2)

shentino (1139071) | more than 2 years ago | (#38494056)

Don't deceive yourself.

HDMI's only purpose is to placate the DRM happy content producers into cooperating with the end users.

All that encryption and decryption baloney does NOTHING to directly enhance the experience, and is only there because without it certain companies *cough*sony*cough* won't play ball.

Re:They may be mocking the price but (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38493914)

There are many uses for cables that really are perfect quality, made with best parts and are harder and more professional than your usual home cables. Usually they are required in production environments, not for your home HDTV. Same is true for video as in this case, but also audio. The prices can seemingly look high, but remember that these products are used for professional work.

Um, no, trollface. Professional products do not have descriptions like this:

This HDMI cable features a Dielectric-Bias System that reduces distortion and 100% Perfect-Surface Silver conductors for improved signal clarity. The Direct-Silver-plated HDMI connectors provide a simple connection and durability.

This is 100% "audiophile" pseudo-science. *This*, on the other hand, is a REAL professional HDMI cable:

http://www.markertek.com/Cables/Video-Cables/HDMI-Cables/Gefen-Inc/CAB-HDMIX1-3-50MM.xhtml?CAB-HDMIX13-150

Note, however, that those are at least 50 foot long (not 3.3) and use fiber-optics to ensure reliable transmission. Oh, and all but the 330 foot version cost LESS than the Best Buy cable...

Re:They may be mocking the price but (1)

mwvdlee (775178) | more than 2 years ago | (#38494126)

I agree. A professional studio should buy the $5 cable instead of the $1 cable.
Perhaps a laboratory should get the $10 cable and an EMP testing facility might pay $20 for additional shielding.
For safety reasons, I'd go for two or possibly even three of those $20 cables in a satelite or space craft.
But that still begs the question; who'd need the $1095 cable?

Re:They may be mocking the price but (1)

tomhudson (43916) | more than 2 years ago | (#38494186)

This cable is NOT used for "professional work" - unless you're thinking of a variant of the worlds' oldest profession - because anyone actually buying one of these is being royally screwed.

Re:They may be mocking the price but (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38494260)

I've got a batch of even better $1500 HDMI cables to sell you. Interested?

Oh, and I have shares for a bridge near Brooklyn, New York that are sure to make you money.

Misplaced decimal? (2, Insightful)

Hatta (162192) | more than 2 years ago | (#38493828)

Is this perhaps a $10.95 HDMI cable?

Re:Misplaced decimal? (5, Funny)

Pharmboy (216950) | more than 2 years ago | (#38493844)

Didn't you read the reviews? One guy was watched a horror movie and it was so realistic, it traumatized him and he had to seek counseling. He couldn't even leave his couch. This is no ordinary $11 cable.

Re:Misplaced decimal? (1)

Nimey (114278) | more than 2 years ago | (#38493916)

Based on the rather "premium"-sounding description, and that b&m stores typically have an insane markup on their cables, no. I could perhaps believe it being a $109.50 cable, and even the stated price is believable if you take hardcore audiophools into account.

Re:Misplaced decimal? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38493954)

I think not,
@ amazon they have this cable for $1.24 less.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003CT08E4?linkCode=xm2&tag=invihand-20/ [amazon.com]
and some more expensive ones too.

Re:Misplaced decimal? (1)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 2 years ago | (#38494128)

Check the "what customers bought after viewing this item" entry.

I dunno if it's really a selling point if people get to see that they can have twice as much cable for about three tenth of a percent of the price.

Re:Misplaced decimal? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38494204)

I also thought this must be some kind of typo but I checked the Audio Quest website which has a price sheet ( http://www.audioquest.com/pdfs/AQ-Retail-PB-2011-NOV-220d.pdf ). On page 15 of the pdf it list the price as $995. It is 100% silver wire but still crazy.

AudioQuest has been at this for a long time (5, Informative)

Sycraft-fu (314770) | more than 2 years ago | (#38493862)

They aren't the most overprice audiophile garbage cable company, believe it or not, but they are up there. The funniest to me have always been their power cables. They go all the way up to $7000 for a 6-foot IEC-C13 cable (normal computer cable). As though somehow the hundreds or thousands of miles of copper and aluminium cable (the long haul runs are aluminium, cheaper and stronger) are not the problem but the last 6 feet to your device is.

Monster Cable just overcharges you for regular shit. AudioQuest and others like them invent whole new kinds of bullshit and push the prices in to the stratosphere.

Re:AudioQuest has been at this for a long time (2)

Nimey (114278) | more than 2 years ago | (#38493936)

Indulge me while I try to get into the headspace of the audiophool who'd buy such a cable.

I'd assume that such a creature would have a dirty great line conditioner plugged into his mains (thus removing the "problem" from the high-voltage lines), and then he'd plug the $7k power cable into the conditioner, and then the device into his overpriced cable, and let his mental condition do the rest.

No, often not (2)

Sycraft-fu (314770) | more than 2 years ago | (#38493958)

One of the things many audiophiles are up on is that "less is more". Basically that the less you have in your signal chain, the better the results. Now never mind power isn't in the signal chain, they apply the same logic there. You don't want all sorts of "bad" circuitry on your power and all that shit.

You actually find some audiophile devices are worse sounding for it. As an example you'll find DACs that are finicky as hell with regards to input because they don't do a good job locking to the signal and then don't reclock it to their own source.

It is a world based on voodoo, not on fact. None of them like real testing, they like listening with their wallet.

Re:No, often not (4, Insightful)

mcgrew (92797) | more than 2 years ago | (#38494050)

Audiophiles have been in a quandary ever since the CD came out. In the analog world, the more you spent, the better the gear sounded*. Nobody needed "golden ears" to hear the difference between a $50 turntable, a $100 turntable, and a $500 turntable.

Not so with digital audio. Maybe someone can tell the difference between a $.25 DAC and a $100 DAC, but I can't.

You guys all know (at least I hope you do) that a $2 digital cable works just as well as a $2000 digital cable; noise only affects an analog signal. Costly RCA cables and speaker cables may be worth it if you have more dollars than sense, but you're better off spending that cash on expensive booze or better, giving it to charity.

*With the exception of fools who bought into quadraphonics: a $700 stereo sounded far better than a $1000 quad setup, since you needed two of everything for quad.

Re:AudioQuest has been at this for a long time (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38494074)

For an audiofool, that's over thinking things. You're supposed to just plug your $7000 power cable into your $150 power outlet [dedicatedaudio.com], and the job is done.

Re:AudioQuest has been at this for a long time (3, Funny)

gzipped_tar (1151931) | more than 2 years ago | (#38494054)

I have to believe this is either market segmentation done right, or money laundering done wrong. Or perhaps the other way around.

Re:AudioQuest has been at this for a long time (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38494134)

I was thinking along the same lines. Either a fantastic front company, or someone's selling cables to our government. You know how it is, when the taxpayer's are paying, money is no object!

Re:AudioQuest has been at this for a long time (1)

slazzy (864185) | more than 2 years ago | (#38494062)

Seems like companies overcharging this much for cables are doing the world a favor. This money needs to be extracted from these people before it could be spent where it might do real harm.

Re:AudioQuest has been at this for a long time (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38494286)

Shysters have been around for a very long time. "A fool and his money are soon parted." Actually, the phenomenon is probably older than money (in the usual modern sense of the word "money"), so perhaps we should rephrase it to something more general, like "A fool and his valuables are soon parted." Anti-fraud and truth-in-advertising laws can place some limits, which can really help in cases of marginal foolishness, but there are always going to be some people who are so dumb that you don't actually have to say anything technically untrue to get them to hand over their money for no good reason, and there's really a limit to what you can do to protect such people, especially in a modern liberal free society wherein simply appointing a smarter person to make all their financial decisions for them is typically viewed as an infringement on their personal liberty. We do still do that in extreme cases of severe mental incompetence, but people who can dress themselves and count change are usually allowed to make their own financial choices, even if they consistently make bad ones. Well, so, sometimes they're going to make bad ones.

Of course, only an unscrupulous person would *deliberately* take outlandish advantage of such people in this manner, but if you think it's possible to rid society of unscrupulous persons... you might want to consider hiring someone smarter to make your financial decisions for you. (I only know of one way to rid the earth of unscrupulous persons: make the planet uninhabitable.)

Re:AudioQuest has been at this for a long time (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38494340)

And a mere $8,450.00 for a speaker cable (it is well worth it according to the reviews on Amazon):
http://www.amazon.com/AudioQuest-K2-terminated-speaker-cable/dp/B000J36XR2/ref=sr_1_2
Have a look at the "customer images" as well.

HDMI cable with "reviews":
http://www.amazon.com/Diamond-Digital-Audio-Ethernet-Connection/dp/B003CT2A6I/ref=sr_1_3

Hah! Get a REAL cable! (1, Redundant)

plate_o_shrimp (948271) | more than 2 years ago | (#38493872)

Re:Hah! Get a REAL cable! (1)

erroneus (253617) | more than 2 years ago | (#38493938)

You sir, have opened my eyes. I used to think "Monster Cables" was out of control with their ridiculous prices.

What I really want to know is WHO Is buying at that price?! And at that price what kind of support will they offer? On-site installation? "Hello, have you tried unplugging it and plugging it back in?"

Re:Hah! Get a REAL cable! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38494042)

Wtf is a "punter?" Other than a kicker in the NFL...

Re:Hah! Get a REAL cable! (2)

RicardoGCE (1173519) | more than 2 years ago | (#38494082)

British slang for "sucker", though it's also commonly used to refer to the average patron at a business.

close (2)

rubycodez (864176) | more than 2 years ago | (#38494212)

foremost it's British slang for a whore's (oh, excuse me, Sex Worker's) customer, what we'd call a "John" in the U.S. the "sucker" use comes from someone who's getting fucked over....

Re:close (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38494228)

Thanks. I figured it was British and was mostly trolling, but appreciate the answer :-)

Amazon sells them cheaper! (0, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38493892)

Amazon is selling it for $1.24 cheaper! Whoo!

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003CT08E4

Re:Amazon sells them cheaper! (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38494002)

Amazon is selling it for $1.24 cheaper! Whoo! http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003CT08E4

Chucking at further below that Amazon page where it says:

What Other Items Do Customers Buy After Viewing This Item?

HDMI Cable 2M (6 Feet)
$3.05

Re:Amazon sells them cheaper! (5, Funny)

RDW (41497) | more than 2 years ago | (#38494058)

Amazon is selling it for $1.24 cheaper! Whoo!

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003CT08E4 [amazon.com]

It may look like a bargain, but check your setup first. I was about to order one, but unfortunately at 3.28 ft it was slightly too short for connecting my HD-DVD player, which is 3.29 ft away from my TV (I've found I get perceptible jitter if I place it any closer, probably due to an excess of events in the 124-126 GeV range). Luckily Amazon sells a longer cable that is already getting good reviews:

http://www.amazon.com/Diamond-Digital-Audio-Ethernet-Connection/dp/B003CT2A6I [amazon.com]

At $2,694.75 it's a little on the pricey side, but I'm viewing this as a long-term investment like the player itself.

well sir that is our top of line cable but for$100 (2)

Joe_Dragon (2206452) | more than 2 years ago | (#38493894)

you can get a monster cable or for $250 we give you a Geek Squad Black Tie Protection and it comes with a free $50 monster cable.

Never mind the quality its the cables length ! (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38493900)

Mine was only only too short at one end.

It's an heirloom, not e-waste (4, Funny)

retroworks (652802) | more than 2 years ago | (#38493904)

I bought 20 of them. It will probably beat my mutual retirement fund, if the recent past is any indicator.

Analog (1)

jones_supa (887896) | more than 2 years ago | (#38493946)

Regarding analog cables, I've found that the OEM "there ya go" cables included with LCDs and set-top-boxes have usually bested the more robust looking cables that I've bought separately.

Anyone stupid enough to pay this much for... (1, Insightful)

sydbarrett74 (74307) | more than 2 years ago | (#38493948)

...an HDMI cable deserves to be ripped off.

Re:Anyone stupid enough to pay this much for... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38494066)

Eef thee good Lor' didn' wan'em sheared, he wouldn'a made 'em sheep!
--Eli Wallach, The Magnificent Seven

Monster Cable HDMI (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38493970)

Monster Cable have a video explaining the benefit of their super HDMI technology cable.

http://www.monstercable.com/hdmi/hdmi.asp

So I'm still considering between AudioQuest and Monster Cable for my super HD experience!

Old news.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38494000)

I worked at bby nearly 9 months and when we were slow we would log in the bby website and laugh at the absurd prices. The reviews were entertaining.

Follow the money (1)

gzipped_tar (1151931) | more than 2 years ago | (#38494006)

The conspiracy theorist in me always believe this kind of outrageous prices are part of some money laundering schemes. Maybe their malice is so well advanced that it cannot be distinguished from stupidity already.

Not a typo??? (3, Interesting)

seven of five (578993) | more than 2 years ago | (#38494030)

The 5-meter cable is $2700 at Amazon [amazon.com]. WTF????????

Re:Not a typo??? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38494110)

At first I thought this was a joke, but now I realize the joke is really on the consumer now.

Its open season for m$ bashing too (0)

phonewebcam (446772) | more than 2 years ago | (#38494034)

Not much cheer for them over in the comments section of The Registers story of the Galaxy S II outselling the Lumia 100 to 1 [theregister.co.uk]. It would be terrible if anyone were to see this as a way to get back at them is some small way for the $5 per Android handset they extort, head over their and join in.

Buncha pussies (2)

rickb928 (945187) | more than 2 years ago | (#38494098)

I mock the $39.99 HDMI cables. The $3.99 set from Fry's works absolutely fine. Cox cable compresses the strwam so badly anyways that the DVR records massive artifacts and decode errors regularly.

This is an old, old debate - digital cables. Maybe if you have terrible cable that so distorts the waveform you are getting more like sine wave than square wave (and there is no reason to assume that HDMI signalling is actually square wave, though it can be, no harm done) you are still able to rely on accurate clocking and decoding the data. The most likely errors would be caused by issues that come and go at close multiples of the clock. So what sort of cable issue would you expect to have that occurs at GHz rates? I thought so. Not bending it, and actually not external interference. Shielding aside, I would expect HDMI to use differential signalling, and I admit I've never bothered to look at the spec. It just makes sense. This renders external interference much less (no, not 0) of a problem.

HDMI is expensive for two reasons - licensing and marketing. Just count me out of wanting a 6 foot $30 HDMI cable.

And having said that, I have a lot of Monster cable. Speaker cables, where for my setup having heavy gauge cables is good, stereo signal cables where actual gold and not just flash has served me well for almost 15 years, flat coax for under the carpet, and the thinnest coax I can find in RG59, easy to fish and easy to retrieve. I don't much care for the oxygen-free copper thing, but when one of my signal cables starts failing I'll cut it open and see. I've seen the inside of some mic cables where the copper is noticably corroded, and the Belden guys claimed it was due to poor quality copper and contamination in manufacturing, which takes a decade or more to advance to the point of a problem.

So tell me, are you similarly outraged by 3D HD?

Actually a steal, (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38494116)

in comparison to this 10k Ethernet cable

But then again it's made of "high-purity copper":

http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AKDL1-Dedicated-Link-Cable/dp/B000I1X6PM

disturbing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38494166)

Man, you should really get a life

Audiophile (1)

JBMcB (73720) | more than 2 years ago | (#38494190)

We're talking about people who think you need the fastest computer available to play ripped CD audio out of your computer, because slower computers create "jitter" in the audio output, degrading the signal quality.

That's right, your lowly mid-range computer, capable of pushing gigabits of data per second across it's internal bus, isn't capable of reliably feeding your audio buffer with a of megabit of audio data per second. 'Cause, you know, your computer is busy doing so much other stuff, like updating the clock, and checking for updates.

Poking fun at the AudioQuest price sheet! (1)

davidwr (791652) | more than 2 years ago | (#38494210)

Don't blame Best Buy, $1095 is MSRP.

From the AudioQuest November 1 Retail Price Book [audioquest.com]:

An unavoidable fact-of-life: Every component and cable in a system causes some amount of distortion. These aberrations add up, like layers of foggy glass between you and the image.
The goal of high quality components and cables is to be like clean clear panes of glass, altering and distorting the
information as little as possible."

And one goal of digital transmission is to allow automatic correction of small analog signal errors (0V=0, 5V=1, 0.1V is also 0, 4.9V is also 1).

Quote #2:

Will [USB and HDMI] finally be the âoebits-are-bitsâ uncorruptable digital data weâ(TM)ve been promised over and over? Nope!

It does if all components are in spec.

Quote #3:

However, not only is there a surprising amount of variation among cables, but also in the capability of the hardwareâ(TM)s input and output electronics.

Fair enough. But either this is intentional, such as a device that is rated at a lower spec, or it is is equipment that is no longer working within specifications. If you really care about your audio and video, fix your faulty equipment. Putting a "nearly-analog-perfect" cable in the system may help but it's only a band-aid.

A digital cable that costs 100-200 times same-HDMI-standard-spec same-length cable in the local hardware store is only good for a few things:

* Getting a good laugh.
* Proving that the owner can burn $100 bills 10 at a time for what might be a status symbol. Note: Only applies to high-net-worth individuals.
* Proving P. T. Barnum was right. Applies to non-high-net-worth individuals who only think they are rich.
* Playing the role of the super-expensive wine on the wine list that is almost never ordered, to make your ordinary ridiculously-priced cables *cough*Monster(R)*cough* look downright reasonable.

Every store should have a version of this (2)

gstrickler (920733) | more than 2 years ago | (#38494214)

After all, anyone who buys one clearly has more money than sense, and therefore, should be separated from their money. It has been foretold "a fool and his money are soon parted", who are we to interfere with such a prophecy?

that's because Best Buy is the new Wal-Mart (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38494226)

What do you expect, people commenting on that magnificent cable are Best Buy customers. Mocking, sure, they are all trash!

crap quality anyway (1)

amoeba1911 (978485) | more than 2 years ago | (#38494230)

My media center computers have an HDMI output as well as DVI and DE15 (VGA). My TV has HDMI and VGA inputs. I have to say, the DE15 looks a lot better than the HDMI. So I use the VGA port exclusively now, it may be over two decades old but it still has the sharpest image quality.

Can anyone explain to me why VGA looks better than HDMI? I've tried this with several computers and a few different TVs. It would seem to me HDMI is inferior, why are they pushing an inferior standard?

one of the problems with this cable is (1)

GarryFre (886347) | more than 2 years ago | (#38494252)

Thieves have been breaking in in stealing the cable replacing it with the cheap ones from grocery outlet. Owners can't tell the difference in video quality at all until its too late and then the cable is long gone. Also they don't have serial numbers on them so please can't recover them. It's such a travesty. Prudent buyer should insure it each and every 1 of these cables. My gump said that's all I gotta say about that.

Best buy customers are idiots... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38494304)

Honestly, if you buy any home theater gear there and listen to the no education morons they have on staff then you are a complete idiot.

They caret to the morons of the world. People who have any IQ will buy their stuff from dealers that are honest and deliver a superior product. Not the low grade dog food they sell at Best Buy.

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