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The GoDaddy Saga Continues

timothy posted more than 2 years ago | from the needs-more-illustrations dept.

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First time accepted submitter wbr1 writes "Domain registrar Namecheap is accusing GoDaddy of violating ICANN rules and hindering domain owners from moving their domains to another registrar. They are allegedly doing this by submitting incomplete information to the new registrar, making it difficult to process the move." Adds user bs0d3: "Godaddy has responded to these allegations today and insist that their practice of rate limiting Whois queries is standard practice to combat Whois abuse. Furthermore, they accuse Namecheap of playing foul because they released a statement before ever contacting godaddy directly to resolve these issues."

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203 comments

You don't get to be #1 (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38502176)

by playing fair.

Re:You don't get to be #1 (4, Interesting)

houstonbofh (602064) | more than 2 years ago | (#38502760)

That is the truth. I had to consolidate registrars for a company. It was a challenge to get them all off GoDaddy. But it was a real battle to get them off NameCheap. For some I had to renew them with NameCheap before they would move them!

Pot, let me introduce you to this kettle here. I think you may have a lot in common.

Re:You don't get to be #1 (1, Informative)

LifesABeach (234436) | more than 2 years ago | (#38503962)

GoDaddy's "throttling" of account information speaks volumes. Is GoDaddy's business model fundamentally corrupt? You have to love the irony.

Re:You don't get to be #1 (1)

helix2301 (1105613) | more than 2 years ago | (#38503990)

Moving a domain in general is a pain no matter who you use just because of propagation time, design change issues, e-mail, MX records, exc.

Re:You don't get to be #1 (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38503996)

How close to expiration were they when you tried to transfer them? There are rules in place to prevent some activity on an almost expired domain (whois updates, etc.).

Re:You don't get to be #1 (1)

shentino (1139071) | more than 2 years ago | (#38504430)

Takes one to know one.

Also, I doubt the pot calling the kettle black gives EITHER of them a free pass on actually being black.

Leave a comment at icann.org... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38504474)

I left this: Should not a losing registrar reduce the DNS TTL to allow a quick transfer to the gaining registrar?

Re:You don't get to be #1 (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38504620)

Is that the anthem of a corrupt culture?

But of course they would (5, Funny)

mihalisgr (2493310) | more than 2 years ago | (#38502188)

If they create artificial means so that their customers would have trouble moving away from them, that would mean more customers, more publicity, a more tech-savvy image, robustness and.. Oh wait...

Namecheap is a good registrar (4, Informative)

InterestingFella (2537066) | more than 2 years ago | (#38502196)

I have used many registrars and Namecheap has always been the best one. Their interface is also super clean and efficient. Their prices are one of the most competitive ones, they offer free private registration, dns hosting and everything you need. And did I say their interface is super clean? You get everything done easily and quickly, without them trying to shove extra services as premium prices down to you. If you have ever tried to register domain with GoDaddy you know what I'm talking about - the whole registration process itself is pain in the ass and you need to keep unticking all those extra services they try to offer you.

With my years of experience and managing over hundred domains, I can only recommend Namecheap.

Re:Namecheap is a good registrar (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38502270)

I have used many registrars and Namecheap has always been the best one. Their interface is also super clean and efficient. Their prices are one of the most competitive ones, they offer free private registration, dns hosting and everything you need. And did I say their interface is super clean? You get everything done easily and quickly, without them trying to shove extra services as premium prices down to you. If you have ever tried to register domain with GoDaddy you know what I'm talking about - the whole registration process itself is pain in the ass and you need to keep unticking all those extra services they try to offer you.

With my years of experience and managing over hundred domains, I can only recommend Namecheap.

cheers, got 152 domains with godaddy and they're moving.

ref namecheap, do they do DNS too and is it any good? Had problems with a domain DNS in godaddy before xmas. Nightmare.

Re:Namecheap is a good registrar (1, Interesting)

InterestingFella (2537066) | more than 2 years ago | (#38502306)

Yes, you can use either their hosted DNS or your webhost/own server. Configuration is really easy and fast too, but still offers all the advanced options too. registrar-servers.com is their domain for hosted DNS, and I've never had problems with them (and they're one of the largest DNS hosters, too).

Re:Namecheap is a good registrar (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38502326)

Obvious viral advertisement is obvious.
Mod parent "Funny" or "Troll".

(Doesn't mean GoDaddy isn't shit. It means that I will not try Namecheap either. I'll try this: http://en.gandi.net/no-bullshit [gandi.net] )

Re:Namecheap is a good registrar (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38502402)

Obvious viral advertisement is obvious.

Namecheap is outstanding! I can move my domain faster than ever!

Re:Namecheap is a good registrar (0, Redundant)

elsurexiste (1758620) | more than 2 years ago | (#38502406)

Try again. :)

In this /. comment [slashdot.org] InterestingFella said Namecheap and Gandi were good providers, therefore you can't use it. It's viral advertising from the past! lol

Re:Namecheap is a good registrar (5, Insightful)

KingSkippus (799657) | more than 2 years ago | (#38502478)

Maybe it looks like a viral advertisement to you, but I think it's on the level for a couple of reasons. First, there are more testimonials below pitching Namecheap as a good registrar, and second (and more importantly), I've used Namecheap as a registrar myself for around six years for 18 domains related to free gaming sites I run. The OP is right, they have a great, simple interface and I've never had any trouble with them. They offer great service for a great price, and they Just Work.

If you like a different registrar better, then more power to you; I'm glad you've found someone you like and feel offers good service. But what exactly makes you think that the OP is an "obvious viral advertisement" but that your link isn't? Frankly, reading the content of your page, yours sounds more like an obvious viral advertisement (that is, the obvious attempt to grab attention using blatant profanity) than the OP simply listing a few reasons why he likes his registrar.

Re:Namecheap is a good registrar (2)

Airborne-ng (1391105) | more than 2 years ago | (#38502778)

Well, I'm sold...just transferred my godaddy to namecheap. Ad campaign or not, it worked. Nothing follows..

Re:Namecheap is a good registrar (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38503842)

Not to sound like the idiot standing in the corner shouting "me too!"

But I as well had transitioned all my domains from godaddy (which had them in the first place simply for being pretty cheap back in the early 00's!) over to Namecheap.

In two years with Namecheap, I must admit: aside from a yearly call offering me "Privacy guard", they keep to them selves and enjoy collecting their domain registration fees simply with little hassle.

I too, would strongly recommend them without a moments hesitation.

Re:Namecheap is a good registrar (2)

wygit (696674) | more than 2 years ago | (#38503006)

I switched to namecheap a couple of years ago when Gina Trapani of Lifehacker recommended it.

Re:Namecheap is a good registrar (5, Informative)

houstonbofh (602064) | more than 2 years ago | (#38502822)

I used them too, and was very happy right up to when I tried to move the domains off. Why the move? Consolidation, but mainly because the foreign domain proxy office service could not be removed when we finally opened and office in that country. (Kinda expensive for some countries...) Then I found the problems. The are not actually the registrar for many of the foreign country domains, and they have some real problems moving your domains away. In some cases, I had to renew for another year, with another full year of the proxy office which I no longer needed, just to get my domain back. I got to know all the techs, since they only have a handful. Nice guys, but powerless in this case. Much more pleased with SafeNames. More expensive, but for a reason.

Re:Namecheap is a good registrar (4, Informative)

jez9999 (618189) | more than 2 years ago | (#38503536)

Just to add another testimonial: I use Namecheap for my 20-odd domains and they have been fine; easy administration, prompting me when I needed to renew them, decent prices, decent customer service.

I haven't tried to move any domains away from Namecheap, so I'm not sure whether they're a bit dodgy there; it'd be a shame if they are.

Their strong anti-SOPA stance also gives them brownie points in my view.

fsck GoDaddy (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38502198)

Having used GoDaddy when I didn't know better, I now use namecheap... 'cause I now know better.

WhoreDaddy (4, Informative)

unity100 (970058) | more than 2 years ago | (#38502208)

As whory as a whore can be. With all due respect and reference to the whores.

That is not something new godaddy started doing just recently. They had the habit of pulling such shit for close to a decade now. the only provider that is FAR worse, is 1&1 in all its incarnations. I had to bail out numerous clients out of their hands - both godaddy and 1&1. some, i wasnt able to bail out, and these were generally those with 1&1.

The array of problems they cause ? it ranges from what you read here, to locking your domain down, preventing you from paying for renewal and sending you to collections over $9-10 a year. Just google it.

Re:WhoreDaddy (5, Funny)

InterestingFella (2537066) | more than 2 years ago | (#38502228)

Please, don't compare GoDaddy to prostitutes. At least the services prostitutes offer are honest.

Not true (5, Funny)

wbr1 (2538558) | more than 2 years ago | (#38502426)

Please, don't compare GoDaddy to prostitutes. At least the services prostitutes offer are honest.

I am not sure all prostitutes offer honest service, but I have yet to meet one who prevented you from pulling out when you wanted!

Re:Not true (1, Offtopic)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 2 years ago | (#38503238)

There once was a whore from Rangoon
Who filled her vagina with glue
    "If they'll pay to get in,"
    Said she with a grin,
"They'll pay to get out of it too!"

I'm not sure if I got the right city, but I know it's not Peru, because that always reminds me of this one:

There was a princess of Bulgaria
Whose bush just got hairier and hairier,
    'Til a prince from Peru
    Who came up for a screw
Had to hunt for her cunt with a terrier.

Re:WhoreDaddy (5, Funny)

nman64 (912054) | more than 2 years ago | (#38502432)

But just like prostitutes, if you aren't careful and just go with the cheapest, most-used offering (GoDaddy), you might end up with more than you bargained for.

Re:WhoreDaddy (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38502444)

Yes, but both suck.

Re:WhoreDaddy (1)

PopeRatzo (965947) | more than 2 years ago | (#38502536)

At least the services prostitutes offer are honest.

It wasn't honest at the St. Anne's hotel in New Orleans on April 18, 1997.

Just saying...

Re:WhoreDaddy (4, Informative)

1s44c (552956) | more than 2 years ago | (#38502362)

That is not something new godaddy started doing just recently. They had the habit of pulling such shit for close to a decade now. the only provider that is FAR worse, is 1&1 in all its incarnations. I had to bail out numerous clients out of their hands - both godaddy and 1&1. some, i wasnt able to bail out, and these were generally those with 1&1.

I once registered a domain with 1&1. Never again. Everyone should be warned to never go near those scumbags.

Re:WhoreDaddy (3, Insightful)

se7en11 (833841) | more than 2 years ago | (#38502434)

Just to throw another opinion into the mix. I've used 1&1 for over 6 years now and have had very little issues. We currently have 4 dedicated servers and around 30 domain names registered with them. They are a big company and you don't really get that personal touch when you call support but we've been happy with them.

yeah (1)

unity100 (970058) | more than 2 years ago | (#38502708)

wait until you chance up against one serious issue. or even, try to cancel/move out your stuff.

Re:WhoreDaddy (1)

truthsearch (249536) | more than 2 years ago | (#38502710)

the only provider that is FAR worse, is 1&1

I know this is just one person's opinion, but I've been using 1&1 for years and I've been very happy with them. I have about 20 domains there and never had a single problem.

Re:WhoreDaddy (5, Insightful)

houstonbofh (602064) | more than 2 years ago | (#38502872)

That is the point... Once there is a problem, they will not care. You only find the quality of a company when things go wrong.

Re:WhoreDaddy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38503412)

Also have to say I support 1&1 and I have cancelled and moved domains with no issues. Most the 'horror' stories I read about them usually involved customers not paying attention to the fine print and getting pissy when 1&1 holds them to the contract they agreed upon.

Re:WhoreDaddy (1)

Thavilden (1613435) | more than 2 years ago | (#38503262)

If someone were looking for a registrar, how would we look for one to be a 1&1 incarnation? Is there a list or do they just have a common interface or something?

Re:WhoreDaddy (1)

NJRoadfan (1254248) | more than 2 years ago | (#38503520)

I personally had to deal with both companies....1&1 in particular was UGH with that interface.... plus I had to deal with the whole RegisterFly fiasco a few years ago. ICANN'T still hasn't gotten their act together. The whole domain industry is filled with shady characters. Web hosting is too, but at least you have the option to roll your own server if needed.

GoDaddy is the liar! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38502230)

GoDaddy tries point the finger elsewhere; BUT... how do they explain that many of us are seeing non-.com domains transferred without much delay, YET... our .com domains are being taken down? This CHILDISH response is yet more reason for that registrar to be taken out behind the woodshed!! If they can't stand the heat from their STUPID stance and meet it with more STUPIDITY, WHY would ANYONE do business with them???

Who to believe? (3, Interesting)

SJHillman (1966756) | more than 2 years ago | (#38502238)

I've heard a lot of great things about Namecheap from customers and third party reviewers. I'm considering moving one of my domains there to give them a try.

I've heard a lot of bad things about GoDaddy from customers and third party reviewers. I'd never consider giving them business - however, I do use them to find if a domain I want is already registered because their domain search is faster than a lot of other sites. I also used to work for a company that purchased SSL certificates from GoDaddy. Using their website is not fun and their customer service less so.

All things considered, I'd have to believe Namecheap over GoDaddy, regardless of how hot Danica Patrick is.

Re:Who to believe? (4, Funny)

vlm (69642) | more than 2 years ago | (#38502408)

All things considered, I'd have to believe Namecheap over GoDaddy, regardless of how hot Danica Patrick is.

Yeah regarding her, that is just weird. In the specific area that godaddy operates in, that being wanna be models who also have a promotional accessory line of domain registration, are there any other hotties out there with a DNS registrar as a marketing gimmic who I could transfer my domains to? I think having her own domain registrar is much trendier than the traditional model accessory line of clothes and perfumes and small dogs in purses and adopted foreign babies and such. The netsol CEO guy just isn't doing it for me, I'm sure he's a nice guy but I'm looking for someone more, uh, female. I'm pretty close to posting a personals ad in the local newspaper "distinguished older engineer seeks hottie for domain registration services, please send pix of router and/or firewall".

Re:Who to believe? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38503156)

Use GoDaddy as a domain registrar because... tits.

Re:Who to believe? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38503338)

I'm pretty close to posting a personals ad in the local newspaper "distinguished older engineer seeks hottie for domain registration services, please send pix of router and/or firewall".

I am a hot blonde who is very interested in in your personal ad, but this is where things get very confusing for me. What should I do if my firewall is a pix? Should I send you firewall of my pix?

Re:Who to believe? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38503614)

Danica Patrick? Ehk, went to the same highschool with her. She wasn't so attractive with pimples and greese stains on her clothes, but she was always nice with us geeks. Still, just can't look at her and think "attractive".

Re:Who to believe? (0)

se7en11 (833841) | more than 2 years ago | (#38502458)

I've never heard of Namecheap until all of this. I'm not saying this is the case, but what an excellent marketing plan to get your name out there.

Re:Who to believe? (1)

Bill Dimm (463823) | more than 2 years ago | (#38502644)

I decided to move all of my domains a little less than a year ago because the old registar's interface sucked (no ability to bulk-change contact info) and it was rather expensive anyway. I spent a lot of time researching registrars to see which ones had a good reputation, and NameCheap came up a lot. I ended up using NameCheap, and I've been happy so far. My point is just that if you've never heard of NameCheap, I think you're paying very little attention to the domain name business, because they are quite well-known.

Re:Who to believe? (1)

joebagodonuts (561066) | more than 2 years ago | (#38502878)

...I'm not saying this is the case, but what an excellent marketing plan to get your name out there.

So, then what are you trying to say?

Re:Who to believe? (1)

MightyMartian (840721) | more than 2 years ago | (#38504688)

If you consider spamming /. an excellent marketing plan. Rarely have I seen such shameless astroturfing.

Re:Who to believe? (4, Informative)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 2 years ago | (#38502744)

That is not a safe thing to do. Godaddy will register a domain you search for if you let it sit 24 hours. At least that is what I observed the lst time I went domain name speculating for a customer.

We searched on GoDaddy for 5 different domain names, the customer dragged his feet for 2 days and when we came back to register, ALL of them were registered and were available for "purchase" at their auction site.

Re:Who to believe? (3, Interesting)

dgatwood (11270) | more than 2 years ago | (#38503858)

They don't really register them. It's just domain tasting, and they can only do it for five days. Of course, with some bad luck, somebody else might come along and do the same thing for another five days, and so on. YMMV.

Sorry to bs03d (4, Interesting)

wbr1 (2538558) | more than 2 years ago | (#38502250)

When submitted this I had not looked at recent submissions and bs03d had submitted a story on the same subject, using the same title! [slashdot.org] I voted his up, but for some reason mine was accepted with additions from him.

But yeah! I got my first accepted submission on my first try. (Sarcastic self-congratulatory pack pat ensues).

I thought this was interesting for many reasons, but I can attest that incomplete information can hinder things very much. I have never worked directly with name registrations, but I used to process DNS records about 13 years ago, and it was painful when I would get an incomplete request.

Re:Sorry to bs03d (-1, Flamebait)

BisexualPuppy (914772) | more than 2 years ago | (#38502378)

No one cares about your life man. Shut the fuck up already.

Re:Sorry to bs03d (1)

timothy (36799) | more than 2 years ago | (#38504276)

Not for every story, but very often we will mix various aspects of submissions on the same topic -- I saw that both of those had identical headlines, it made me smile (since they were otherwise distinct). Headline, body text, supplied source / anchortext ... sometimes the snappier version wins, and sometimes the ueberlinked version does, partly depending on how much recent coverage there's been (which is to say, how much context it seems is needed).

We like to give credit to multiple submitters, too, but since there are often many submitters for similar stories (and since the "credit" is mostly just a number in a database, in the end, or a namecheck ;)), that's a pretty low priority in the system.

Cheers,

timothy

Not the first time (2)

assertation (1255714) | more than 2 years ago | (#38502252)

I seem to have a vague memory of there being another mass exodus from godaddy a few years ago. Does anyone remember what the issue was?

Re:Not the first time (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38502300)

People left after the CEO posted a video of him killing an elephant maybe a year or so back, not sure if that's what you're talking about.

Re:Not the first time (5, Informative)

SJHillman (1966756) | more than 2 years ago | (#38502368)

Re:Not the first time (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38502698)

Huh...

This Bob guy is really a chronic incurable asshole.

Re:Not the first time (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38502882)

Reading that article, at first I thought it was disgusting and his explanation was crap. Then I saw that PETA was on the other side of the argument, and now I don't know what to think. When PETA is on one side of an issue, it almost doesn't matter who is on the other side.

Re:Not the first time (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38503416)

I find PETA as annoying as the next guy, but killing an elephant is just disgusting to me on so many levels...

Yes, I know they trample crops. Don't give a shit, Bob Parsons obviously had the money to move the problem elephant. Besides, elephants migrate along the same paths year after year and have been since the dawn of fucking time. Trying to grow crops in the path of a bunch of migrating elephants is about as intelligent as trying to grow crops on train tracks.

Oh, but the people got to eat the elephant! So fucking what? Can I kill people if I promise to eat them afterwords? Besides, if they're starving, why didn't he leave the GoDaddy hats and shit at home (watch the video, every other person is wearing a brand new, bright orange GoDaddy hat) and bring them fucking food? Why didn't he spend his fortune building them walls and such around their crops?

We all know the real answers, and that is "Bob Parsons is wealthy. Bob Parsons wanted to murder a fucking elephant because he's a fucking psychopath and the thought of killing something gets him hard." Come up with every excuse in the world you want, the fact remains, he could have spent the same amount of money he used to bribe the people into allowing him to kill the elephant to do something positive for those people without killing an endangered species. He's not some poor African farmer trying to feed his family, he's just another entitled prick that views the world as his candy jar and any life that's not his own as less valuable. Fuck him and fuck GoDaddy.

Re:Not the first time (1)

assertation (1255714) | more than 2 years ago | (#38502596)

That does sound familiar. Thanks.

Re:Not the first time (1)

Mikkeles (698461) | more than 2 years ago | (#38503550)

So, did he kill it by bunga-bunga?

Re:Not the first time (1)

vilain (127070) | more than 2 years ago | (#38503788)

I left Network Solutions some 10 years ago to go to GoDaddy. When I moved my web hosting, I switched to their registrar because it was easier. Except GoDaddy didn't make it easy. I had to call, talk to someone who's job it was was to talk me out of moving. I couldn't just close my account and move it. So, all their efforts to retain customers are just pissing off the ones that want to be done with them.

Let me put it straight: (4, Insightful)

Kagetsuki (1620613) | more than 2 years ago | (#38502256)

"Dear GoDaddy. You openly supported something that revokes our rights and would give you more power to abuse us with while others in your position openly opposed it. Fuck you. Die."

No tears from us. Go Namecheap!

Shooting yourself in the foot isn't good enough... (4, Insightful)

Tridus (79566) | more than 2 years ago | (#38502272)

So now they've broken out a bazooka.

Seriously, they piss their customers off with their handling of SOPA. After that, their plan is... technical incompetence? Mishandling of accounts? Their lousy customer service is now in the spotlight because of this, and it's going to make their problems even worse because people remember a reputation for bad service long after they've forgotten all about SOPA.

You can't fix that with more ads from a second rate race car driver.

16 Domains. (4, Interesting)

andydread (758754) | more than 2 years ago | (#38502342)

Didn't plan on doing all this extra work during Christmas holidays. I just migrated 16 domains from GoDaddy to NameCheap. Wow I wish I knew they existed before hand. The interface is clean. NO endless checkboxes to uncheck. Thank you GoDaddy for introducing me to NameCheap. I am now GoDaddy-free and it feels really good. use SOPAsucks to get a discount. awesome.

Re:16 Domains. (4, Informative)

Howard Beale (92386) | more than 2 years ago | (#38502852)

Unfortunately, the SOPAsucks code has reached its maximum allowance. Here are some more discount codes (ripped from their blog): Get reduced price registrations and transfers on com/net/org/biz domains using coupon code XMASJOY. Enjoy 10% off your first month of shared/reseller/business hosting using coupon code SNOWTIME and 10% off first month VPS hosting using code XVPS.

Interesting (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38502348)

I'd never heard of Namecheep before this debacle and I found it curious how there were so very many references to it on Slashdot and the other new site forums. It was so dominant that my cynical side was wondering if it wasn't an astroturfing campaign.

Now we have these accusations. Frankly, at first blush, it sounds like dramatization on the part of Namecheep and standard incompetence excuses from GoDaddy. But, I also notice that only Namecheep is complaining. I don't see the same complaints from Network Solutions or Register et al, so I'm again wondering if this is some form of astroturfing because I am positive that GoDaddy has not targeting Namecheep exclusively.

Re:Interesting (5, Insightful)

vlm (69642) | more than 2 years ago | (#38502506)

I did some research and astroturfing seems unlikely in this individual situation.

First of all there's not dozens of "pro-namecheep" fanboy posts. There's like three. So I clicked on them to check out their posting history

InterestingFella (2537066) seems "real"
SJHillman (1966756) seems "real"
andydread (758754) seems "real"

It seems likely to me that namecheep does in fact rock.

Its kind of like whenever we talk about simple web hosting and ipv6, like fifty people come out of the woodwork to say he.net rocks. Or whenever we talk about colo virtual servers, again, like fifty people come out of the woodwork to say linode.com rocks. Based on personal experience as customer, its not a conspiracy or advertising, its simply that they're absolute best of breed and they do in fact rock. So I would be inclined to believe the /. groupthink and tend to think this namecheep place does in fact rock in the world of DNS service.

What I don't get, is that "gandi" or whatever place in like France or someplace used to get all the /. mindshare as being the "best". What happened to them? I recall it was "hard" to use if you lived in the USA, something about sending them money, but thats all I remember about ghandi or gandi or whatever they were.

Re:Interesting (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38503684)

I used Gandi for a while but I had some customer service problems and got sick of the fact that they were only offering deals for new registrations and transfers. If you were a loyal customer you got hit with the highest prices which pissed me off.

I moved most of my domains to nearlyfreespeech.net. They are awesome on service and quite reasonable on price. I also have no concerns whatsoever about them selling me out to the Stasi.

Re:Interesting (2)

Sloppy (14984) | more than 2 years ago | (#38504136)

I still use Gandi and I live in USA.

The only "hard" thing about them is that every single year when I pay them, it triggers VISA fraud alert (i.e. VISA calls me and wants me to confirm it was a legit charge) because they're not used to me buying a lot of stuff from Europe anymore.

And that's really a VISA problem rather than a Gandi problem, and actually if you think about it, it's not a "problem" at all -- confirming rare exceptions is good. I just wish VISA would realize that this yearly charge is like clockwork, every year at about the same time for about the same amount, so not really all that exceptional. But I can forgive that too. There's no real hassle here at all, and it'll take more than that for me to reconsider Gandi. It ain't broke so I ain't fixin' it.

Re:Interesting (2)

marcosdumay (620877) | more than 2 years ago | (#38504270)

Just to confirm that, vlm (69642) seems "real".

Now somedy just append another verification here, so we can continue running the byzantine generals problem.

Re:Interesting (-1, Redundant)

InterestingFella (2537066) | more than 2 years ago | (#38502518)

Namecheap is one of the largest registrars on planet, so I'm somewhat surprised that you haven't heard of them. I think it may depend on what you work with - they don't spend money to advertise during Super Bowl, or aren't Network Solutions with their overpriced domains. What they do is offer good service and cheap prices compared to other leading registrars, which probably has something to do with the fact that they don't spend millions to advertise during Super Bowl.

The reason why there are so many references to Namecheap on Slashdot and forums? Because people who know about different registrars also know that Namecheap is a good registrar and are really happy with them.

Re:Interesting (1)

Bill Dimm (463823) | more than 2 years ago | (#38502752)

Funny, I was reluctant because of the name too. After seeing enough positive reviews I decided to give them a shot, and I'm happy with them so far.

Re:Interesting (0, Flamebait)

MightyMartian (840721) | more than 2 years ago | (#38504710)

Fuck off you astroturfing piece of shit.

Re:Interesting (1)

Bill Dimm (463823) | more than 2 years ago | (#38504830)

I am not being paid by anyone for anything I post. Sorry it offends you that someone expresses a genuine opinion.

Re:Interesting (1)

RazorSharp (1418697) | more than 2 years ago | (#38502520)

If it's astroturfing, then probably the first astroturfing campaign to have a positive effect. It's better to give your money to an astroturfer than to GoDaddy. So I'm all for an astroturfing campaign that encourages an even greater exodus from GoDaddy.

Regardless, I think you've just got your tin-foil hat on a bit tight. I've heard of Namecheap. Funny anecdote: I never used them b/c they have the word 'cheap' in their name and I tend to avoid things with that word. As an old retail boss of mine would always say, "Refer to the product as inexpensive, not cheap. Cheap can refer to quality whereas inexpensive exclusively refers to price."

Re:Interesting (1)

Daniel_Staal (609844) | more than 2 years ago | (#38502602)

Namecheap appeared to be the most commonly-recommended registrar in threads on switching. (To the point that a guide was written using it as the 'switch-to'.) It's possible that they are getting a large percentage of the people switching.

Re:Interesting (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38502626)

This behavior is pretty standard for Godaddy, I would recommended almost anybody besides them. Namecheap, from my limited experience, seems decent. No hassle sign up, limited bad hearsay online about them, no issues so far to deal with tech support (so I can't rate that), and fairly clean interface.

The push for Namecheap is more likely that of fans, just like how Apple fans push apple products or even MS fans. That said, this move is quite likely, as you stated, a PR move since Godaddy being a pain to transfer away is pretty much status quo.

Re:Interesting (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38502636)

It's because Namecheap is probably getting 99% of the registrations from GoDaddy.

Almost nobody uses Network Solutions, Register, et al. because they're expensive and have some annoying practices not unlike GoDaddy.

Re:Interesting (1)

theskipper (461997) | more than 2 years ago | (#38502814)

It's not just Namecheap. I transferred a dozen names this weekend to a (non-Namecheap) registrar and the whois info is now in limbo. i.e. whois is still showing Godaddy info even after receiving "your domain transfer is complete" messages from the gaining registrar.

Note that I've done transfers from GD numerous times in the past decade (exactly the same way) and they've always cleared immediately. This time it's definitely different.

biz8atcH (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38502388)

FreeBSD used to keep, a8d I won't are 7000 users the project

Icann rules and whois (4, Interesting)

pinfall (2430412) | more than 2 years ago | (#38502416)

Godaddy limits whois queries as is their limited right to do so. However, the ability to meter queries does not apply to the transfer of domains which must be a transparent process. The problem is that Godaddy can easily transfer bulk transfer out requests but they are getting stuck by their stupid registrant query limit.

The fact that Icann let them get away with this bs for so long is ineptitude. Remove this dumbass query limit and all is well.

How Long. . . (1)

RazorSharp (1418697) | more than 2 years ago | (#38502466)

Anyone want to take bets on how long it will be until Danica's driving another car? Namecheap should offer to sponsor her.

Correction (1)

rickb928 (945187) | more than 2 years ago | (#38502512)

"their practice of rate limiting Whois queries is Whois abuse".

There, more honest.

Another good registrar (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38502532)

Hover.com (Tucows, Inc.) officially stated that they oppose SOPA. I've been using them for over a year and they're very straight forward and cheap as well.

https://www.hover.com/help/blog/hover-opposes-sopa

Re:Another good registrar (1)

Bill Dimm (463823) | more than 2 years ago | (#38502830)

Good on them for doing that, but I have to say that (unless something has changed since I used them) their user-interface is extremely tedious if you are managing multiple domains.

Re:Another good registrar (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38503948)

I've moved some domains to hover.com (I like tucows, and finally they have a direct non-reseller). But hover.com is a kind of crappy interface. For one, they don't have IPv6 glue (entering IPv6 address results in error that it was invalid IPv4) so I'll have to contact them before transferring more. I'm sure this can be worked out.

Their interface is also quite 'puffy'.

hypocrites (3)

MichaelKristopeit421 (2018882) | more than 2 years ago | (#38502550)

Furthermore, they accuse Namecheap of playing foul because they released a statement before ever contacting godaddy directly to resolve these issues.

just like SOPA would allow them to do... domain seizure with no trial or recourse is most certainly foul.

boycott all of these companies [house.gov]

Shitty business practices (5, Interesting)

LoudNoiseElitist (1016584) | more than 2 years ago | (#38502666)

I moved to Namecheap a few months ago after becoming sick and tired of GoDaddy's shitty business practices. I decided to move to Namecheap shortly before my registrations with GoDaddy expired.

Before allowing me to transfer my domains, I was informed that I had to update my Whois info to make sure that it was accurate. There was no way to *not* do this. I could not begin the transfer process until this was done. I had done it a few months prior when ICANN requires yearly updates. This was something new.

Upon being forced to update my information (none of which was actually changed), my domains were forced into "locked" status, and thus prevented from being transferred for *two* months. Despite the fact that ICANN has released numerous statements saying that this behavior is not allowed, GoDaddy enforced this policy, despite me calling and talking to ten or fifteen different individuals.

I eventually had to renew each domain with GoDaddy, wait the two months, and then attempt the transfer to Namecheap again.

GoDaddy is a shit company, and I sincerely hope that an elephant tramples Bob Parsons.

namecheap is using the situation, again... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38502864)

Namecheap blamed godaddy (ceo of godaddy on footage with wildlife slaughter) some month ago.

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/129331/20110331/namecheap-godaddy-elephants.htm

"Namecheap is now offering to transfer domain from GoDaddy to Namecheap at a price so cheap that Namecheap loses money on those transactions. In addition, it will donate $1 for every transfer to Save The Elephants"

make our own mind..

Did not have issues (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38502870)

I was with GoDaddy, was not happy with the service (and was not really fond of the owner, but that's my personal opinion).
Bought services from another provider and my domain was transferred smoothly and quickly, plus they quickly refunded me for the services I did not use.
This happened about 6-8 months ago.

Another way to check your transfer status. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38502916)

Got this from Namecheap support: http://www.intodns.com PLEASE don't /. the site -- many of us are still suffering GoDaddy-caused outages! While you'll see errors there, you can check your domain with: dig @freedns[1-5].registrar-servers.com to see that Namecheap HAS done their part.
TOO FUNNY... the Captcha for this post is "ankles" -- sure feels like I'm grabbing them while GoDaddy "has my back"... :P

Am I the 1 percent? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38503000)

I never had any problems with transferring domains to and from Godaddy (Except for their bulky interface)

Should I crawl into fetal position and cry for my ignorance?

I use Moniker (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38503410)

NameCheap has been great at capitalizing on this fiasco, but their prices aren't that far off from Moniker's. They have a very nice interface as well in addition to various security features.

As for moving domains from GoDaddy: I believe they'll see a longer-term effect as well: I for one am not moving everything right away: I just use them for cheap parking of domains I'll use later on. I won't keep active domains with them anyway. However, I will move once the renew date comes up. Also, I will not be registering new domains through them.

It's not even so much the SOPA deal that bothers me, but the way they phrased their support for it. Apparently, if you're not American, then GoDaddy seems to think you can go F yourself. If I'm not welcome as a customer, then all they have to do is ask me to leave. It's not a big deal, geez. Better yet, they should put their money where their mouth is and reject all international orders. Then there's no problem with furrenurs at all.

GoDaddy is blocking my domain transfer (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38503632)

For anyone who doesn't believe GoDaddy is now just explicitly blocking transfers - I've tried for two days now to move a single GoDaddy domain I have (that I bought through Google) to EasyDNS and GoDaddy is just blocking the transfer (see message below). I don't know if I'm more upset with GoDaddy or Google at this point (who continues to resell GoDaddy and provides no help here). Note that the (obscured) link to GoDaddy for support below points to a page with a PIN, with no information on where the PIN is obtained. Calling GoDaddy goes into an infinite black hole on support lines.

REGISTRAR TRANSFER DENIED

Dear Registration Private,

The transfer of x from Google Apps to another registrar could not be completed for the following reason(s):

Express written objection to the transfer from the Transfer Contact. (e.g. - email, fax, paper document or other processes by which the Transfer Contact has expressly and voluntarily objected through opt-in means).

If you believe that this domain name does not fit the situation described above, go to x for assistance.

Regards,
Domain Services
Google Apps

Business with GoDaddy (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38503808)

We were using GoDaddy to host some of our corporate servers. Due to their stubbornness and inflexibility on small points we ended up losing a lot of important business email. When I tried to go up the chain of command to get the issue addressed they flatly refused to allow me to talk to anyone higher up. I made many efforts to go around them to no avail. We ended up dropping use of them. We will never do business with that company!

Data point from the last 24 hours (2)

thatseattleguy (897282) | more than 2 years ago | (#38504120)

<disclosure>
I think GoDaddy sucks large avian eggs on a variety of levels (morally and technically); I try hard to convince any client who comes to me with domains or hosting there to switch to something else - anything else. (I usually recommend Pairnic.com as a registrar and Pair.com for hosting, but other great options exist.)
</disclosure>

That said, I transferred a client's domain from GoDaddy just last night (to Pairnic) and the process was exceedingly quick and smooth. Since GoDaddy allows you to log in an "approve" a transfer in process, the whole thing was done in 20 minutes from start to finish. Never had one go that fast, so I have to give credit to GoDaddy where it's due here. At least in this case, they were not putting up any roadblocks.

But yes, I'm glad to be almost completely rid of them. Even if Danica is smokin' hot.

A pause from the Namecheap love fest (4, Interesting)

Just Some Guy (3352) | more than 2 years ago | (#38504562)

I transferred an expiring domain to Namecheap last week for reasons unrelated to GoDaddy's asshattery, but I saw a blog post (that I can no longer find, alas) pointing out something in Namecheap's TOS [namecheap.com] that bothers the hell out of me. Specifically:

You agree that Namecheap, in its sole discretion and without liability to you, may refuse to accept the registration of any domain name. Namecheap also may in its sole discretion and without liability to you delete the registration of any domain name during the first thirty (30) days after registration has taken place. Namecheap may also cancel the registration of a domain name, after thirty (30) days, if that name is being used, as determined by Namecheap in its sole discretion, in association with spam or morally objectionable activities (as well as any activities set forth in Section 4 above). Morally objectionable activities will include, but not be limited to 1) activities designed to defame, embarrass, harm, abuse, threaten, slander or harass third parties; 2) activities prohibited by the laws of the United States and/or foreign territories in which you conduct business; 3) activities designed to encourage unlawful behavior by others, such as hate crimes, terrorism and child pornography; 4) activities that are tortious, vulgar, obscene, invasive of the privacy of a third party, racially, ethnically, or otherwise objectionable; activities designed to impersonate the identity of a third party; 5) and activities designed to harm or use unethically minors in any way.

Note the part about "Namecheap in its sole discretion" and imagine that the guy answering the "abuse@" email is having a bad day. Suppose I have a blog on a domain registered through them and I:

1) Embarrass a local politician.
2) Get AdSense revenue from a post saying that the Egyptian government sucks.
3) Say I think it's OK for someone to smoke pot, even if it's illegal where they live.
4) Say something that someone, somewhere, thinks is vulgar or obscene.
5) Make fun of Justin Bieber.

Namecheap could decide in its sole discretion that any of those is sufficient to delete my domain from the registry. Frankly, that's bullshit. I know that Namecheap is unlikely to do something so boneheaded, but I'm utterly against them having the right to yank me off the Internet just because they don't like what I've said. And although I'm talking here about Namecheap specifically, I recognize that a lot of other registrars have similar terms. Does anyone use a more freedom-respecting registrar that they would recommend?

Re:A pause from the Namecheap love fest (2)

Just Some Guy (3352) | more than 2 years ago | (#38504784)

Following up to myself, the blog post I mentioned [zacwe.st] points out the nearly identical terms and conditions in GoDaddy's and Namecheap's contracts. Gandi has the same objectionable terms. I've written to NearlyFreeSpeech to ask for clarification of their policy but haven't heard back yet, and it looks like Hover specifically avoids any "morality clauses".

Worked fine for me (1)

thesinfulgamer (2537658) | more than 2 years ago | (#38504868)

Moved my 5 domains away, and except one problem with my auth codes everything was completed in less than an hour (including being reregistered under my new host) but good riddance

Why does everyone think Danica is hot? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38504934)

Gosh, I've always considered her a 6/10 at best. I can't stand that scrunched face, and she has no curves. Her skin is pasty (but you wouldn't know because of the airbrush / photoshop). Then again, NASCAR fans don't really have high standards when it comes to beauty.

Back on topic...

I recently refused to work with a client because they used GoDaddy for registration and hosting. They were baffled that I'd turn down a few grand job because of their hosting, but I just knew that the project would run way over-budget due to the inevitable failures of GoDaddy's hosting services.

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