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Leaked Online Chats Expose Author of Largest Spam Botnet

Soulskill posted more than 2 years ago | from the cover-blown dept.

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An anonymous reader writes "New analysis of financial records and online chat logs retrieved from the operators of Spamdot.biz — until recently the most notorious spam affiliate program — provides tantalizing clues about the identity of the man behind Cutwail, currently the largest spam botnet. Brian Krebs tells the story of 'Google,' the screen name used by the now-27-year-old botmaster who was part of a team of programmers in Moscow. Over the years, Cutwail has shifted from a spam cannon for male enhancement pills to a major vector for distributing malicious software."

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But it works... (5, Funny)

RobinEggs (1453925) | more than 2 years ago | (#38565972)

But those pills totally work! I tried them and my dick got 69% longer in just 3 short...

Hey, what's with all the laughing?

Re:But it works... (2)

TheRealMindChild (743925) | more than 2 years ago | (#38566136)

Why would you want a longer penis? Unless you are in really sad shape, women don't like being probed with a baseball bat.

Re:But it works... (2)

Spodi (2259976) | more than 2 years ago | (#38566210)

Why would you want a longer penis? Unless you are in really sad shape, women don't like being probed with a baseball bat.

Who said he is doing it for women?

Re:But it works... (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38566312)

Yeah, it's ridiculous. When talking about penis size we can't just use a tape measure, we need a scale and a protractor as well:

[(Length x Diameter) + (Weight/Girth)] / (AngleOfTheTip^2)

Re:But it works... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38568292)

i thought the proper T.M.I equation was ((L x G) / (A)) / (M / W)

Re:But it works... (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38566314)

Yes, this is true. I post anonymously because it is a bit embarassing and I don't want to appear to be bragging.

When I got married, both I and my wife were virgins. The first couple of times we had sex, she complained of the pain. I assumed it was just the whole virgin thing. Turns out, when erect, the circumference of my penis is twice the average. It is not much longer than average at 7.75" but when flacid it is much smaller.

The sex life got better after an epiziotomy (spelling?) but until then it wasn't pleasant. So men who wish for a big penis have no idea what they are wishing for.

Re:But it works... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38566688)

+5 POINTS TO THIS GENTLEMAN.

Basically, my member seems rather normal as it's flaccid but as it erects it will grow to some 21cm or so. Fortunately, my circumference isn't all that daunting, but most of my encounters with the opposite sex have resulted in my companion have been interrupted by "THAT BIG???". Also, repeatedly pounding the uterus, trying to get through to the stomach isn't necessarily what women appreciate and look for in a sexual encounter.

So for a while I was trying hard to do as the pr0n-stars: mount and pound. While this is something a few women enjoy, it's always good to know that you can actually physically fit in there before you get at it.

Re:But it works... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38566766)

I forgot but what I was really going to point out was that the "talking points" brought up by supposedly "well hung" individuals, never really deals with real problems that occur. like the cock hitting the porcelain in the toilet (ewww), to the head peeping out of shorts..

basically, having a large cock isn't all that

Re:But it works... (1)

evanism (600676) | more than 2 years ago | (#38569054)

This is a real problem and it's gross. Tucking it in when using the public facilities is pretty hard to do. Then it gets near the water. Even worse.

Re:But it works... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38570070)

Sit down facing the tank.

Re:But it works... (1)

VortexCortex (1117377) | more than 2 years ago | (#38569902)

Not to mention having to hold it up a bit, but angled down while taking a dump... so it doesn't droop in the water...
...to say nothing of plopping down on a chair and accidentally sitting on the family jewels.

You know, Women get to show off their external reproductive organs... Most jeans & pants don't accommodate male genitalia well. I mean, women's clothes are made to fit their bosoms, but men's seem to be made as if their organ doesn't exist at all. A spandex pouch or cup should be sewn in to the crotch, or at least a bit more material should be present so it has somewhere to go when one sits down... stuffing it down a pants leg can be problematic & quite embarrassing: "Oh, did you hurt your leg? It looks quite swollen." Uhm, thanks for your concern, but no I didn't; That's just my manhood. Many people assume inappropriate arousal too.

... was it good for you?
Yeah, but I was a little scared by it at first.
Oh, you're just experiencing "X-com 2".
...?...
You know, "Terror from the deep."

Re:But it works... (1)

ArsenneLupin (766289) | more than 2 years ago | (#38570272)

like the cock hitting the porcelain in the toilet (ewww)

Well, when flacid, those large cocks are usually not any larger than normal ones. So, while peeing or shitting, this shouldn't be a problem.

But people may use the toilet for other activities than peeing and shitting... and in a small hotel toilet, even a normal-sized cock may touch the porcelain...

Re:But it works... (1)

antdude (79039) | more than 2 years ago | (#38570560)

Mine isn't that big and never used it for sex (also a virgin). I wonder if mine will be OK if I ever get to use it (have to find a woman to marry too). :(

Re:But it works... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38566148)

But those pills totally work! I tried them and my dick got 69% longer in just 3 short...

And then it fell off, right?

Re:But it works... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38566280)

Dude, women don't care about the size of your dick. Its the way you swing it around your neck that gets them excited.

Google (-1, Flamebait)

SharkLaser (2495316) | more than 2 years ago | (#38565980)

How fitting name!

Re:Google (2)

imsabbel (611519) | more than 2 years ago | (#38566104)

Also has the advantage that it is basically untraceable... i mean, what to you want, google it?

Re:Google (4, Informative)

inviolet (797804) | more than 2 years ago | (#38566266)

Also has the advantage that it is basically untraceable... i mean, what to you want, google it?

Yep, a clever choice of alias.

According to TFA, the Cutwail guy's real name is supposedly Dmitry Sergeyvich Nechvolod, phone number +7-916-4444474.

Re:Google (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38576122)

According to TFA, the Cutwail guy's real name is supposedly Dmitry Sergeyvich Nechvolod, phone number +7-916-4444474

That, or TFA's author really doesn't like someone named Dmitry Sergeyvich Nchvolod, phone number +7-916-4444474

Re:Google (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38566358)

Looks like operating a botnet isn't evil after all.

Stop caring about jurisdiction and just get them. (0, Troll)

sethstorm (512897) | more than 2 years ago | (#38566002)

The US Government knows where they are, why not just go and black-bag them? Repeat until the spam stops, no matter what country.

Re:Stop caring about jurisdiction and just get the (5, Insightful)

stanlyb (1839382) | more than 2 years ago | (#38566026)

Now i am no more wondering how such a monster like SOPA, PIPA was created...

Re:Stop caring about jurisdiction and just get the (1)

vlm (69642) | more than 2 years ago | (#38566042)

Unlikely, they serve the govt by compiling lists of gullible people; in other words they know who is an ideal voter / jurist / consumer.

Re:Stop caring about jurisdiction and just get the (1)

colinrichardday (768814) | more than 2 years ago | (#38566168)

I hope you meant "juror" instead of "jurist".

Re:Stop caring about jurisdiction and just get the (1)

Mister Liberty (769145) | more than 2 years ago | (#38566586)

No, he's from Holland, where 'jurist' means 'lawyer' or 'attorney'.

bjd

Re:Stop caring about jurisdiction and just get the (1)

colinrichardday (768814) | more than 2 years ago | (#38566994)

It means something similar in American English. I was hoping that such people were not that gullible.

Nah (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38566108)

Just because the US government has power to do a lot of locally illegal things around the world doesn't mean it should use that power every time we see something annoying. What's next? Nuking Justin Bieber?

Re:Nah (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38566126)

Bieber is DA BOMB!

Re:Nah (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38569354)

Bieber got me pregnant in '84!

Re:Nah (1)

g0bshiTe (596213) | more than 2 years ago | (#38566236)

Just because the US government has power to do a lot of locally illegal things around the world doesn't mean it should use that power every time we see something annoying. What's next? Nuking Justin Bieber?

Right, cause they've never done that in the past.

Re:Nah (1)

ridley4 (1535661) | more than 2 years ago | (#38566620)

Nuking Justin Bieber?

 
I find your ideas interesting, and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

Re:Nah (1)

sethstorm (512897) | more than 2 years ago | (#38568074)

Just because the US government has power to do a lot of locally illegal things around the world doesn't mean it should use that power every time we see something annoying.

Letting them continue in a country that doesn't care isn't the best option either.

What's next? Nuking Justin Bieber?

I'd think you'd want to defuse him.

Re:Stop caring about jurisdiction and just get the (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38566214)

Because the pill-makers and end-salesmen are tax paying lobbyists.
Whether the profits are pocketed by the mafia or "honest" businessmen is irrelevant, mostly because it's hard to tell one from the other.

Re:Stop caring about jurisdiction and just get the (4, Insightful)

gman003 (1693318) | more than 2 years ago | (#38566248)

Funny how, when it's (suspected) terrorists, drug lords, etc., most posters here argue for a fair, open trial, legal rendition and all that. Shut down Gitmo, stop the drone killings, stop the indefinite holdings, because we're becoming that which we fight.

But a spammer? Call in the CIA, call in DEVGRU, call in Jack Bauer, that man needs to be dead YESTERDAY, no matter the cost!

Re:Stop caring about jurisdiction and just get the (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38566304)

because we're becoming that which we fight. But a spammer?

We're becoming spammers?

Re:Stop caring about jurisdiction and just get the (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38566570)

Hmm ... not sure I'm following the point you're trying to make

Re:Stop caring about jurisdiction and just get the (2)

icebraining (1313345) | more than 2 years ago | (#38566684)

Newsflash: different people on the same site have different opinions! Freaky, I know.

The difference (1)

KingSkippus (799657) | more than 2 years ago | (#38566866)

Is anyone arguing that the guy shouldn't get a fair, open trial, legal rendition, and all that? I know I'm not. Learn the difference between, "We should identify people committing crimes," and, "We should string people up without due process."

Re:The difference (1)

gman003 (1693318) | more than 2 years ago | (#38567272)

Is anyone arguing that the guy shouldn't get a fair, open trial, legal rendition, and all that? I know I'm not. Learn the difference between, "We should identify people committing crimes," and, "We should string people up without due process."

Quote sethstorm:

The US Government knows where they are, why not just go and black-bag them? Repeat until the spam stops, no matter what country.

Re:The difference (1)

paper tape (724398) | more than 2 years ago | (#38568262)

By all means, give him a fair trial.

Then execute him.

...and his business associates, friends, family, and dog.

Re:Stop caring about jurisdiction and just get the (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38567250)

Spammers are fronts for fraudsters, and that generally means organized crime. Spam costs industry billions of wasted revenue fighting it with umpteen services and third party add-ons to get it under control.

Seeing as it's not real companies selling real products, all that money is being stolen. Death penalty seems pretty reasonable.

Re:Stop caring about jurisdiction and just get the (1)

sethstorm (512897) | more than 2 years ago | (#38568206)

Dead by our hands? No.

Just get them in a less fraudulent jurisdiction such as the US, then offer them the following choices:

  They can tell all and get a long prison sentence in a well-protected facility within the US.

  They can be turned back to the country that they came from, where they would most likely end up dead by fellow criminals.

If anything, you would be saving their lives and taking out a conduit for malware and spam.

Re:Stop caring about jurisdiction and just get the (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38568498)

The spammers do more damage to the economy and the average american than any nutty muslim

Re:Stop caring about jurisdiction and just get the (1)

satuon (1822492) | more than 2 years ago | (#38570144)

The goal of terrorism isn't the actual damage, it's to instill fear and provoke self-destructive reactions. I don't know what the direct damages caused by the terrorists were, but indirectly they caused the 2 wars, which have cost (correct me if I'm wrong) in excess of 1 trillion dollars. I seriously doubt that spammers have cost the economy 1 trillion.

Re:Stop caring about jurisdiction and just get the (1)

rangerfan558 (842657) | more than 2 years ago | (#38568700)

Well, I am affected daily by not only spam, but the need to have an antivirus program "control" my actions. So, Yes, Die you Spamming Commie

Re:Stop caring about jurisdiction and just get the (1)

SigmundFloyd (994648) | more than 2 years ago | (#38570890)

Die you Spamming Commie

If communism was still in place, you'd get no spam from Russia. It's capitalism that begets spam, not communism.

Re:Stop caring about jurisdiction and just get the (1)

rangerfan558 (842657) | more than 2 years ago | (#38571482)

I give you that point, but then they would move to less oppressive area/islands/counties

Re:Stop caring about jurisdiction and just get the (1)

satuon (1822492) | more than 2 years ago | (#38570114)

The people who say 'black-bag them' probably aren't the same people who talk against Gitmo.

Hahahahaaah !!! From moscow ? (2)

unity100 (970058) | more than 2 years ago | (#38566816)

Yeah. do that. And the next day we are back to stone age.

Exaggeration ? Dont think so. the mafia that runs russia is as strong as the mafia that runs u.s.. And neither mafia would allow the other to kill their important assets in the dirty games they play.

You'd think that the author of world's largest botnet would be dealing in just viagra spam ? think again ...

Re:Hahahahaaah !!! From moscow ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38567390)

no get the guys who wrote suxnet to hack his system and distribute anti Putin stuff or leak stuff to wikileaks about Russian corruption he would soon fall down the stairs in his apartment block - he's made his bed let him lie in it

Re:Stop caring about jurisdiction and just get the (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38571852)

you've been watching wayyy to much television.

Arrest (1, Funny)

Chemisor (97276) | more than 2 years ago | (#38566010)

Please arrest him now for terrorism (of small penis owners).

Re:Arrest (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38566060)

What was that paragraph? "Just put him in a cell with all the men who bought viagra from him!"

we can only hope (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38566102)

he meets the same fate as Vardan Kushnir

Normally (0)

Fuzzums (250400) | more than 2 years ago | (#38566142)

Normally I'm not a fan of Mossad style kidnappings in foreign countries, covert CIA flights and water boarding.
This time I'll make an exception.

Ok, I will not. Just arrest him and pwn his ass :)

Re:Normally (1)

rtb61 (674572) | more than 2 years ago | (#38568506)

Far simpler to punish those ISPs that fail to detect and notify customers of bot machines. It's not like the behaviour has very unique and easily detectable characteristics which can be detected at either end.

So at the receivers, simply make a report, validate to confirm via the number of reports and notify and fix the sender or disconnect. I know it will cost ISPs quite a bit but it costs everyone else even more to let it continue.

Re:Normally (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38574732)

LOL, get real, nerd. No one would even understand what the ISP was telling them and they would consider it disruption of a paid service. The Attorney General would get involved and he wouldn't understand it as anything but disruption of service without grounds to disrupt it.

I'm sure you believe ISPs should be carriers of data only and perform no packet inspection or interference with the traffic. If I'm wrong on that, then please correct me (you would be in a minority to have those views on this site). Otherwise, you are a completely hypocritical douchbag.

Re:Normally (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38574944)

We should also punish ISPs that allow their users to download torrents and usenet binaries. In fact, we should punish them if they even resolve DNS for those sites. They should have to honor a government issued blacklist of domains and redirect all of those to a standard block page. We should also punish ISPs that allow their customers to access alternative DNS servers. We should punish ISPs that allow any of their customers to circumvent these measures.

Fucking dumbass nerd. Get the fuck off this site.

PS, while waiting for my AC posting timeout: You're actually perfect for what this site has become. Your comment is one of many in this story that shine with hypocrisy. I haven't read a single comment on this story that upholds the values and convictions that slahdotters trumpet around on practically every other story.

I, for one, have no problem with spam. I think the problem was conquered a long time ago. All of the spam filters that filter my mail are fine. Gmail spam filtering is fine. All email providers offer spam filtering. If you host your own email, there are plenty of filtering solutions from software to appliances to hosted. I like hosted services, because you can IP restrict incoming email to only them, they usually have outbound filtering and you can IP restrict SMTP from your network to only them (so you can't spam the world), and they usually have mail spooling in case your server or internet connection is down for an extended period of time, people don't get NDRs.

Again, you're a fucking idiot.

Really? (1)

Shavano (2541114) | more than 2 years ago | (#38567238)

"... provides tantalizing clues about the identity of the man behind Cutwail, ... Over the years, Cutwail has shifted from a spam cannon for male enhancement pills to a major vector for distributing malicious software."

You just had to go there, didn't you?

Prosecute those using their services as well (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38567980)

IMHO, those companies paying for these spammers' services should be prosecuted as well. Because, if these companies were not there in the first place, these spammers should not have existed.

For just $1 from each geek, we can take him out (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38568266)

Just think... for only $1 donated from each geek/victim of spam here on /., we could "incentivize" (sp) a "contractor" to take care of this guy...

Maybe someone needs to open a kickstarter fund for this activity...

More slashcrap (0)

Exceptica (2022320) | more than 2 years ago | (#38570324)

I'm spanish. I'm truly sick of the fearmongering this sorry excuse for a technology website keeps spewing. In this particular case the summary is wrong and retarded, the 'articles' it cites are retarded and there's nothing to see here. The Sinde law will not be 'implemented', there is no such thing as 'implementing' a law. This is only ridiculous. Maybe it makes some sense to information-deprived shit-overloaded US-centric morons who read this website and go ZOMG the sky, it is fellings, it's the end I tell ya!

There has been a change of government in Spain. The incoming idiots want to make a statement. That is all. There have been tens of lawsuits where the only websites closed where the ones who profited, if only by having google ads, from their pages. And the closed sprout again with same content under a different name, with no ads, in a couple of hours, case closed. If there are no ads the page is considered not for profit and spanish courts have never considered P2P any more illegal than lending a magazine. I wish the fucking stupidity about this would go away. But I digress.

In Spain there is still due process for everything. We don't have a MAFIAA, we have a smallish group of whiny artsy retards who get 50% of the budget of any 'spanish' (read ingrown, incestuous, embarrasing shit that should never cross our borders) movie from our taxes. One of the linked articles say that Spain has 'emerged' as a 'safe-haven' for 'piracy'. It didn't emerge, the legal standing of lending things you own has always been the same and it was legal to copy a Phillips Cassette in the 50s and it's legal to make a torrent of a movie today if you own it. What was punishable by death was to use Fe-grade cassettes. But still. Spain is also not a 'safe-haven' for piracy, but same story: we have rights across Europe and we like it that way. Where is The Pirate Bay hosted? Several places now. Has it been closed? Not that I know, just as not one of the small pages in Spain will not be closed as long as they steer clear of making any profit off sharing.

The natural state of the art industry (an oxymoron in itself) is small, very small. Prices are too high for the crap that's selling and it's okay, only kids (or underdeveloped adults) with too much money on their hands buy said crap. I myself stick to music that was written some centuries ago. Yesterday I had some silly fun out of IBNIZ, give it a try, with a week of practice anyone capable of understanding some assembler concepts like stacks and basic bit wrangling can churn a trance track every 4 hours.

Re:More slashcrap (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38575214)

Dowmodded for misuse of the word "assembler." I think you were referring to assembly language, but you specifically referenced the tool used to compile assembly language files into executable code (yes, it's complied when you have multiple source files, symbolic names, etc.). It makes no sense.

I see that the fags over at wikipedia allowed this misuse of the term into the article without a citation. What a bunch of nerds.

Google exposed for running giant botnet (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38576472)

FTFY

Seriously, how could you let this chance for a headline slip?

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