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Microsoft To Offer Flight For Free This Spring

timothy posted more than 2 years ago | from the something-tells-me-wine-won't-suffice dept.

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hypnosec writes "Microsoft's Flight Simulator series, which was in dormant state until now, will see a re-launch this spring and that too for free. The name of this series will be simply Flight, and players will have free access to the digital sky with this simulator. In other words, it will be available as a free download; however, the user would need to buy additional content to enhance their experience. The content that can be purchased includes aircraft as well as new environments. Microsoft states that the most amazing part of this game is the user can experience some real life locations like Big Island of Hawaii along with 'region-specific weather patterns, foliage, terrain and landmarks.'" [Video demo here.] I'd like to know where the ESRB finds "crude humor" or "mild violence" in there.

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I got my beta invite yesterday (5, Informative)

DCTech (2545590) | more than 2 years ago | (#38596342)

And I have to say I'm really impressed with the game. The free model seems great too, especially considering that there has always been a huge market place towards Flight Simulator aircrafts, scenery etc. Maybe they will work out some deals with third party developers too. But as I'm under NDA I wont say too much, but you can sign up for beta here [microsoft.com] . I suggest you do!

Re:I got my beta invite yesterday (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38596554)

Oh hey, look at that. A new user praising Microsoft posted within a minute with links to sign up!

Re:I got my beta invite yesterday (3, Insightful)

DCTech (2545590) | more than 2 years ago | (#38596728)

What about if you stopped following my posts and actually contributed to the discussion like I do? I have no idea why someone would upmod your off-topic post and down-mod my on-topic opinion, but oh well.

Re:I got my beta invite yesterday (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38596768)

Except you don't contribute. You shill. Then when you are found out, you create a new account and return to shill.

Re:I got my beta invite yesterday (5, Insightful)

Missing.Matter (1845576) | more than 2 years ago | (#38597448)

No... that was a contribution. It was on topic and relevent, contained information someone interested in this flight simulator might find interesting (a link to the beta signup) and an opinion about the quality of the game. The only problem you have with this post is that it is positive toward a company you don't like.

You are the one getting argumentative, you are the one derailing the conversation, you are the one who is adding exactly 0 value to this discussion, and your stance boils down to an ad hominem attack. You look absolutely petty. So even if this person is being paid to say what he's saying, what you're doing is much much worse.

Re:I got my beta invite yesterday (-1, Troll)

swordgeek (112599) | more than 2 years ago | (#38597638)

Um...
The post you're attacking was from the OP, DCTech, who provided the links in his original, informative, post. He then complained (with some justification) about an AC who attacked him for supporting a MS product.
Follow the trail.

Re:I got my beta invite yesterday (1)

Missing.Matter (1845576) | more than 2 years ago | (#38597762)

What? I'm attacking the AC. Not the OP. Did you miss the trail?

Re:I got my beta invite yesterday (4, Funny)

Richard_at_work (517087) | more than 2 years ago | (#38596918)

Oh look, another fucktard claiming "Shill! Shill!" against an informative post, just because they don't like MS! How unusual...

Re:I got my beta invite yesterday (3, Interesting)

mwvdlee (775178) | more than 2 years ago | (#38597164)

Usually I just look at the post history of somebody to see if they have some sort of bias.
You might not want to do that in this case.

Re:I got my beta invite yesterday (4, Insightful)

Richard_at_work (517087) | more than 2 years ago | (#38597336)

Am I free then to point out thousands of accounts that seem to be shills for Linux, Gnu, RMS etc etc?

Re:I got my beta invite yesterday (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38597828)

Shh! Don't tell them about me!

Re:I got my beta invite yesterday (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38597858)

you can, but you'll probably be downmodded and labeled yourself. the general mental-health and maturity level of the slashdot massive seems to be only slightly better than that exhibited by 4chan users.

Re:I got my beta invite yesterday (3, Interesting)

g0bshiTe (596213) | more than 2 years ago | (#38596954)

Actually MS has always had some of the best flight sims out there. I've been a fan of MS flight sims since the days when Combat Flight Simulator and the MSN Gaming Zone reigned supreme. The bad thing is my current computer just can't handle flight since X was released.

Re:I got my beta invite yesterday (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38597166)

Sure, the MS Flight sims have been rather decent, but this person/people is a regular pain in the ass around here. There's motive behind the posts and creating all the sock puppets to attempt to milk first posts being positive to MS and negative to Google.

Re:I got my beta invite yesterday (1, Offtopic)

neonKow (1239288) | more than 2 years ago | (#38597294)

The moderation system is only meant to rate POSTS directly, not users. Even if he IS a shill, his first post is useful and relevant to this thread and your replies are annoying. Let the Karma system do its job and stop spamming up the place.

Re:I got my beta invite yesterday (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38597544)

That would be all fine and well if the Karma system only impacted individual posts. High karma users can be elevated in results and low karma users can be hidden in your preferences. It also gives you the ability to obtain mod points, so users that obtain first posts (and get ranked informative, etc.) will get mod points to play the system and down-rank others. The fact of the matter is: This person is manipulating the system for their gain.

If the Karma system was only meant per post, this would be Reddit/Digg.

Re:I got my beta invite yesterday (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38597930)

Just because a post is first doesn't mean it's automatically going to be up-modded. The fact that they are first and also usually insightful or informative has more to do with it. What you're saying is that you'd prefer the discussion were less insightful and informative as long as you don't have to hear anything positive about the company you don't like.

Re:I got my beta invite yesterday (0)

Missing.Matter (1845576) | more than 2 years ago | (#38597312)

Actually the people crying shill in anonymous accounts about anyone with a dissenting opinion are becoming a regular pain in the ass. Why aren't you posting on your account?

Re:I got my beta invite yesterday (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38597720)

NO they haven't. They've had some of the best looking visuals but their simulation part has always been - wanting. X-Plane has historically been the opposite. Meaning, X-Plane has historically lacked in visuals but offered superb simulation. Since X-Plane 9, it has generally met or beat MS in both visuals and simulation. About the only thing MS' offering beat X-Plane at has been some advanced avionics, such as Garmin 430 and 530, so on and so on.

In a nut shell, if you really want a simulation, MS has never been much. If you want pretty visuals, MS has always been worth looking at. If you want both, these days, X-Plane is the only game in town.

And in case you're wondering, when professionals want a low cost flight sim for real aircraft research and development, they reach for X-Plane too. MS' offering is never even considered simply because the flight models are laughable. X-Plane even has an FAA certified variant.

Re:I got my beta invite yesterday (4, Funny)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 2 years ago | (#38596610)

The free model seems great too

Nope, there's an article just a few down saying that this model is broken, and since it was on Slashdot it must be true!

Re:I got my beta invite yesterday (2)

capnkr (1153623) | more than 2 years ago | (#38597194)

If, as stated @ 0:58 in the video, they have that "serene cityscape" of Honolulu "on the Big Island" - yep, it's broken... :)

Re:I got my beta invite yesterday (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38597898)

Yeah, I groaned. Narration fail. At least the scenes depicted were actually all over the state. I'm not a flight sim player, in general, but I want this to see if I can buzz the schools I went to. I doubt my house would even show up on the ground texture, but that'd be fun, too.

Re:I got my beta invite yesterday (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38597472)

Thank heavens, some truth and intelligence here!

Re:I got my beta invite yesterday (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38596972)

a windows live id required? fuck off, shill.

Re:I got my beta invite yesterday (1)

wzinc (612701) | more than 2 years ago | (#38597542)

This game would be great as an MMO, where you could fly with others. I wonder if a "serious" MMO, where you're actually logging hours would do well. How would kids messing with people actually using it as a simulator work? Play servers and serious servers, where you'll be booted if you mess around?

Re:I got my beta invite yesterday (1)

tnk1 (899206) | more than 2 years ago | (#38597906)

Should be fairly easy. The only way to really troll anyone is to cause air-to-air collisions or maybe crash into parked planes. Plain old crashes don't hurt anyone else, so they should be able to do that as much as they want. So all you need to do is log collisions and then have a ruleset that you can make a determination of who was at fault and then "suspend" their Virtual pilot's license for increasing amounts of time if they are at fault. That or you simply make air-to-air collisions impossible with other player planes and only NPC planes can be crashed into.

I was thinking an MMO could be pretty fun for the right people. You have quests and achievements to fly into rough airstrips to deliver cargo to remote places and you can meet up in a bar somewhere to show off and swap stories and have your planes out for show with any mods and paint jobs to indicate your achievements. Ultimately, that's basically what happens in WoW when people raid and then run around the cities showing off their gear.

Ywin towers option? (0)

Eunuchswear (210685) | more than 2 years ago | (#38596382)

You know, for historical re-enactment?

Re:Ywin towers option? (0)

Eunuchswear (210685) | more than 2 years ago | (#38596404)

Yecond Psot!

no put meigs field back in as the default airport (1)

Joe_Dragon (2206452) | more than 2 years ago | (#38596510)

no put meigs field back in as the default airport

Re:no put meigs field back in as the default airpo (4, Informative)

anypundit (2546510) | more than 2 years ago | (#38597284)

no put meigs field back in as the default airport

You won't be able to take off with the giant X's carved into the runway.

Re:no put meigs field back in as the default airpo (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38597444)

no put meigs field back in as the default airport

Bonus mini-game: Dodge the concert attendees at Charter One Pavilion where Meigs Field used to be.

Easter Egg (1)

Comboman (895500) | more than 2 years ago | (#38596664)

If you discover this feature, an email gets sent to Homeland Security and you win a free plane ride to Gitmo.

Re:Ywin towers option? (1)

mwvdlee (775178) | more than 2 years ago | (#38597186)

As an airfield?

Too soon?

* Planes and runways not included (5, Funny)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 2 years ago | (#38596398)

the user would need to buy additional content to enhance their experience. The content that can be purchased includes aircraft as well as new environments

Flap your arms all you want, cowboy, you're not leaving the ground.

Re:* Planes and runways not included (5, Funny)

SJHillman (1966756) | more than 2 years ago | (#38596946)

Microsoft Flight without any add-ons would be better known as Microsoft Walk.

Re:* Planes and runways not included (1)

g0bshiTe (596213) | more than 2 years ago | (#38596992)

MS flight sims have always been vastly scalable. You could easily import your own stuff, unless they have removed that ability.

I prefer the old model... (3)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | more than 2 years ago | (#38596464)

...where you bought the game and then picked up community-created addons for free.

Re:I prefer the old model... (1)

Garybaldy (1233166) | more than 2 years ago | (#38596498)

Kind of like back in the day. When the advantage of running your own game server was all the aftermarket mods.

Re:I prefer the old model... (3, Insightful)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | more than 2 years ago | (#38596598)

MS is clearly trying to turn MSFS into a walled garden they can milk. This is the structure of a "freemium" MMO they're emulating.

Re:I prefer the old model... (0)

DCTech (2545590) | more than 2 years ago | (#38596508)

...where you bought the game and then picked up community-created addons for free.

Those community-created addons weren't free. They cost a large amount of money, but people still loved them. There's MANY large sites that cater to that market, just search in google.

Re:I prefer the old model... (3, Informative)

0123456 (636235) | more than 2 years ago | (#38596578)

Those community-created addons weren't free. They cost a large amount of money, but people still loved them.

That's odd. My FS2004 installation is 36GB and I only ever paid for one aircraft add-on... the rest of those gigabytes were all free addons.

Re:I prefer the old model... (1)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | more than 2 years ago | (#38596624)

Wow, I downloaded a shitload of addons (all free) but didn't get my MSFS2k install anywwhere near 10GB 8-(

Still want to get it running in a VM, I had such a HUGE amount of mods on that install...

Re:I prefer the old model... (2)

0123456 (636235) | more than 2 years ago | (#38596854)

Wow, I downloaded a shitload of addons (all free) but didn't get my MSFS2k install anywwhere near 10GB 8-(

If I remember correctly, that 36GB includes high-res terrain data for the whole planet, and most of the scheduled airline flights.

Re:I prefer the old model... (2)

Ogive17 (691899) | more than 2 years ago | (#38596696)

My boss still flies 4-5 nights a week. He says that while there are plenty of free content out there, the most realistic planes cost a small fee.

Basically you get what you pay for...

Re:I prefer the old model... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38596724)

Yeah, my first thought of the summary was wondering what would be our method of flying: Glider, Wright Brother's plane or flapping our arms furiously.

Re:I prefer the old model... (1)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | more than 2 years ago | (#38596886)

I guess you'll have to start out by flapping your arms furiously and you unlock a Wright plane when you reach Level 5.

Re:I prefer the old model... (2)

million_monkeys (2480792) | more than 2 years ago | (#38596766)

Hopefully they'll do both. The other big flight sim program, X-Plane [x-plane.com] , has both community created free addons and commercial addons at additional cost from third parties. There's a big community [x-plane.org] around that and it adds a lot to the program. As people might expect, the stuff you pay for is usually better quality, althrough there is some really great free stuff out there.

It'd be nice if Microsoft encourages others to make content and provides tools to help with that. But I'm not sure that's part of their business model for this release.

Reminds of me Railworks 3 (1)

r6_jason (893331) | more than 2 years ago | (#38596500)

Railworks 3 on steam has $1561.15 worth of DLC and you know more than just someone bought all of that. Giving away the base game and selling DLC is a sound idea.

Re:Reminds of me Railworks 3 (1)

JSBiff (87824) | more than 2 years ago | (#38596584)

I've often wondered though. . . yeah, you can make money that way, but for every person who spends hundreds or thousands of dollars on DLC, I bet you have hundreds or thousands of players who never buy anything?

Well, anyhow, however it works out, there's enough successful free-to-play games out their raking in the dough that I guess it does work out in the company's favor in the end.

Re:Reminds of me Railworks 3 (5, Insightful)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 2 years ago | (#38596670)

I've often wondered though. . . yeah, you can make money that way, but for every person who spends hundreds or thousands of dollars on DLC, I bet you have hundreds or thousands of players who never buy anything?

That kind of logic is what's causing problems for the movie and music industries. It doesn't matter how many people are not paying for your product, it matters how many people are. Your job, as a capitalist business, is to maximise the product of the number of people who are paying by the amount that they are paying. The movie industry has spent a huge amount on marketing campaigns to try to get people to stop pirating their products, forgetting that their goal should have been to make people start paying for them.

Re:Reminds of me Railworks 3 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38597014)

True, if and only if the free users put no additional strain on your infrastructure.

Support costs alone can be enough to put the free users into negative marginal value if they don't in some way contribute to the value of your product.

Re:Reminds of me Railworks 3 (2)

delinear (991444) | more than 2 years ago | (#38597600)

I remember support. It's what we used to have back in the days before public betas of supposedly finished products, where users get to find the bugs and report them on a cheap internet forum.

Re:Reminds of me Railworks 3 (5, Funny)

SJHillman (1966756) | more than 2 years ago | (#38597026)

Next up, movie add-ons! You get a copy of the script for free. $5 gets you a copy showing the characters against a greenscreen with no CGI. Another $10 will add in backgrounds. $10 each for household items, guns, explosions and nudity.

Re:Reminds of me Railworks 3 (1)

delinear (991444) | more than 2 years ago | (#38597676)

They'd never do that - people would too easily realise how empty most movies are without the eye candy of the explosions. Worst case scenario, people might actually start demanding well written stories that aren't full of holes.

Re:Reminds of me Railworks 3 (1)

g0bshiTe (596213) | more than 2 years ago | (#38597034)

Funny you mention the music industry since they are reporting the highest record sales in nearly 5 years.

Re:Reminds of me Railworks 3 (1)

JohnnyMindcrime (2487092) | more than 2 years ago | (#38597126)

A lot of major record companies are starting to get the message also.

I personally don't care for digital downloads, I've bought CD albums for around 3 decades (vinyl before that) and just rip them myself for portability. Most of what I listen to is classic (hard) rock, and they're doing a really good job of getting me to part with my money currently with remastered albums, bonus tracks, some in DVD-A mixes and some even including DVD concert discs.

I could care less that it's "old technology" or what anyone else thinks, music is my number one hobby anyway and the record companies are giving me good value products meaning that I don't download music freely.

Like you said above, giving those who already pay to keep paying...

Re:Reminds of me Railworks 3 (1)

0123456 (636235) | more than 2 years ago | (#38596884)

I've often wondered though. . . yeah, you can make money that way, but for every person who spends hundreds or thousands of dollars on DLC, I bet you have hundreds or thousands of players who never buy anything?

They still paid $5 for the basic game in a Steam sale.

Re:Reminds of me Railworks 3 (2)

RogueyWon (735973) | more than 2 years ago | (#38596622)

They don't exactly give away Railworks, either. It does sometimes get discounted in Steam sales, and if you bought the original, then you got free upgrades to 2 and 3. You do actually have to buy the base game at some point, though.

I suspect this is a special case, driven by the... erm... particular nature of the enthusiast community in question.

More than anything else, it reminds me of the Idolm@ster games (huge in Japan, unreleased in the West), where the home console versions not only require the purchase of a full-priced game, but also have masses and masses of very, very expensive DLC. And yet there is a community out there that keeps lapping it up - even back when the home console versions were 360-exclusive.

As an aside, I did import a copy of the PS3 version of IM@S2, just to see what all the fuss was about. It's cute, well presented and the minigames are fun, but the idea of spending a single penny on DLC for it just seems ludicrous.

Mild Violence (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 2 years ago | (#38596516)

Mild Violence: It's possible to die. But if anything, you'll see the plane break apart, or the windshield crack.

Is this game going to be MMO? Otherwise it's hard to envision the pay-for-content-as-you-go model working out. It kind of made sense to have to pay for big fat scenery packs, but who wants to get nickel-and-dimed piecemeal? On the other hand, they'll probably sell bundles anyway. If the news here is that they're doing away with physical media (well, besides that ms flightsim is coming back in some form) then I guess there's a little bit of it.

While YOU were sleeping! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38596520)

During the first five months of last year, a platoon of U.S. soldiers in Afghanistan went on a shooting spree, killing at least four unarmed civilians and mutilating several of the corpses. The âoekill teamâ â" members of the 5th Stryker Brigade stationed near Kandahar â" took scores of photos chronicling their kills and their time in Afghanistan. Even before the war crimes became public, the Pentagon went to extraordinary measures to suppress the photos, launching a massive effort to find every file and pull the pictures out of circulation before they could touch off a scandal on the scale of Abu Ghraib.

The images â" more than 150 of which have been obtained by Rolling Stone â" portray a front-line culture among U.S. troops in which killing innocent civilians is seen as a cause for celebration. âoeMost people within the unit disliked the Afghan people,â one of the soldiers told Army investigators. âoeEveryone would say theyâ(TM)re savages.â

Many of the photos depict explicit images of violent deaths that have yet to be identified by the Pentagon. Among the soldiers, the collection was treated like a war memento. It was passed from man to man on thumb drives and hard drives, the gruesome images of corpses and war atrocities filed alongside clips of TV shows, UFC fights and films such as Iron Man 2. One soldier kept a complete set, which he made available to anyone who asked.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/photos/the-kill-team-photos-20110327 [rollingstone.com]

http://www.rollingstone.com/kill-team [rollingstone.com]

Meh (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38596522)

As a long term user of both Microsoft Flight Simulator and X-Plane, I'm relatively sure that (apart from eye-candy) it will suck in comparison to the latter.

Re:Meh (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38596832)

I'm a pilot, but haven't played with sims for a long while. I thought it was, but does anyone know if MS FS is approved as a procedures simulator? Is there another FS out there that is?

Re:Meh (1)

Pricetx (1986510) | more than 2 years ago | (#38597568)

The MSFS series has unfortunately never been procedure approved. However, I'm pretty sure that X-plane has a special version which is procedure approved (I don't know what the difference between this and the standard version is though). I don't think flightgear is, but i've not followed them in a while.

Re:Meh (2)

chill (34294) | more than 2 years ago | (#38597620)

You mean like X-Plane Pro [x-plane.com] ? It'll cost you $5,000+ in FAA Certified hardware, in addition to the software, to be able to use the simulator to log some actual hours.

Huh? (2)

0123456 (636235) | more than 2 years ago | (#38596534)

Microsoft states that the most amazing part of this game is the user can experience some real life locations like Big Island of Hawaii along with 'region-specific weather patterns, foliage, terrain and landmarks.'

You mean just like Microsoft Flight Simulator?

Why isn't this on XBox360? (4, Insightful)

erroneus (253617) | more than 2 years ago | (#38596536)

The only games I play are on XBox360. I might be interested in that game/simulation. If I needed to buy some fancy control devices, so be it. But having my nice big TV and all it would make the flight simulation pretty nice. And doing the the Live networking would be kinda fun too where you could join groups of flyers and such... interacting with them and all.

Not long ago, I saw my brother doing the flight sim thing on his PC. It was impressive enough, but not impressive enough for me to want to buy and set up a Windows PC... game system? Okay. But my stuff is Linux. I'm comfortable there... got some Apple stuff collecting dust but otherwise all Linux. A free game isn't enough to pull me back to Windows at home.

Re:Why isn't this on XBox360? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38596750)

Until the 360 can do multiple monitors so I can have the wrap around viewing and allows any USB yoke, I'll stick with a PC for flight sims.

Re:Why isn't this on XBox360? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38597482)

Maybe it works with that thing you Marxist Linux users have, called Whine?

If I had to make a guess... (2)

idbeholda (2405958) | more than 2 years ago | (#38596586)

I would say the "Crude Humor" and "Mild Violence" come from the "Enhanced Experience" which probably involves making a pass/grope at the stewardess and spanking unruly passengers back in coach.

Noo (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38596602)

And here is Microsoft always late , announcing this just as the freemium business model as failed. Almost caught the news, sometimes you are lucky.

Sounds too much like Zynga's business model (3, Interesting)

CuriousGeorge113 (47122) | more than 2 years ago | (#38596608)

Sounds like they are taking a page right out of Zynga's playbook. Offer a game for free, get a user addicted, and then convince that user to spend money on "improve their game experience." I know a few people that have spent quite a bit of money on farmville, mafia wars, etc. with in-app purchases. Way more than anyone would spend to download a full version of a game.

I'd rather pay up front for something and have a complete product (or at least, know how much of that product I'm getting). I'm real aversive to Zynga's model, because there is no way, up front, to know how much you are going to spend to get a good experience playing the game. You just have to keep buying more and more credits as time goes on.

Re:Sounds too much like Zynga's business model (2)

DigiShaman (671371) | more than 2 years ago | (#38596740)

Depends on the game really. Are you looking for a complete start to finish gameplay experience, or an ever expanding realm in which you can pick and choose what to purchase as needed?

Re:Sounds too much like Zynga's business model (1)

delinear (991444) | more than 2 years ago | (#38597878)

There are pros and cons to both approaches. With the in-game purchase it's easy to lose track of how much you've spent, but it's equally easy to spend full price on a game and find out it's not worth the cost, and then you're out all of the money at once instead of paying out a little at a time while you're still getting enjoyment from the experience.

Advertising bonanza (1)

gladish (982899) | more than 2 years ago | (#38596626)

To me this is a great opportunity to sell advertising in a virtual world. Just like billboards on highways, they can advertise everything inside the game. I know it's nothing new, but has anyone done it with this model before or with a flight simulator?

Re:Advertising bonanza (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38596736)

Warning, you are flying too low!!!

Crude Humor and Mild Violence (4, Funny)

abe ferlman (205607) | more than 2 years ago | (#38596642)

It's probably the inflatable auto-pilot and the nun with the baseball bat.

Re:Crude Humor and Mild Violence (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38596978)

Surely you can't be serious!?

Re:Crude Humor and Mild Violence (3, Funny)

Overzeetop (214511) | more than 2 years ago | (#38597872)

Of course I'm serious. And stop calling me Shirley.

Re:Crude Humor and Mild Violence (4, Funny)

borgasm (547139) | more than 2 years ago | (#38597030)

nah, the crude humor is that all the flights in the game are on-time, and you get a meal + beverage for free

Re:Crude Humor and Mild Violence (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38597890)

Don't forget, you don't have to submit to naked body scans to play.

Balls to the wall? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38596698)

Does it tell you to go "balls to the wall" at any point?

They aren't talking about testicles.

Trademark (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38596714)

Since Microsoft likes simple words, "Office", "Windows", calling it "Flight" actually makes sense. But will they be able to trademark it?

Re:Trademark (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38596908)

Since Microsoft likes simple words, "Office", "Windows", calling it "Flight" actually makes sense. But will they be able to trademark it?

As the name of a computer game, absolutely. So what?

How about making a simulator? (1)

sakjur (1544701) | more than 2 years ago | (#38596718)

They're actually saying that it's built for gamepad, joystick and keyboard + mouse? It makes sense that they dropped the "Simulator" part of the name :'( The good part is that it might fit into my economy in a better way than if I actually had to buy a joystick-kit (...yay for being a student!)

Re:How about making a simulator? (1)

yodleboy (982200) | more than 2 years ago | (#38597368)

actually, if you just watch the video it's light on details. I read elsewhere that it will be configurable to be as complicated or as easy as you want. If you want the full realism sim, do it, if you want basically an arcade game, you can do that too. It is also not limited to those 3 inputs. Full support remains for all the fancy flight controls as well. Here's a more detailed look MS Flight [ign.com] . From the article: "That being said, allow me to assuage the longtime fans' fears. Though Microsoft Flight can be played with a keyboard and mouse, it will support all the fancy joysticks, flap pedals and other doo dads that enthusiasts love."

new scenery? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38596732)

Is the part of Australia that isn't Sydney still going to look like ass?

Got your ESRB right here... (1)

ReverendLoki (663861) | more than 2 years ago | (#38596772)

I'd like to know where the ESRB finds "crude humor" or "mild violence" in there.

"Attention, this is your Captain speaking. Today's flight will take us straight between the Grand Tetons. *snicker*"

At least, it would have been funny at the age when I played one of the earliest versions...

Microsoft Flight Simulator (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38596776)

What's up with MS Flight Simulator? Is it good or is it whack?

A good free flight sim. (1)

Port-0 (301613) | more than 2 years ago | (#38596856)

If you are interested in a more free experience. There is an excellent OSS flight simulator out there, with tons of aircraft, scenery for the whole planet, etc... There are a number of people who have used it to build their own home walk in simulators. There was one guy a while back who had somehow acquired the front end of an F15 who was working on building it into a simulator environment in his garage. There was some cool stuff going on around this project.

Air Transport Pilot Career?? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38596892)

I'd sure love to see an Air Transport Pilot Career, similar to FA:ATP by subLogic. I somehow doubt that'll be in the cards, and that I'd be better off with X-Plane along with a Virtual Airline and Virtual Air Traffic Control.

Microsoft Terrorism Training Simulator (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38596968)

Now Free! With downloadable content of all of our nations major cities and industrial hubs.

compares to flight gear? (2)

i.r.id10t (595143) | more than 2 years ago | (#38596974)

I wonder how this new version will compare to FlightGear ?

http://www.flightgear.org/ [flightgear.org]

Re:compares to flight gear? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38597170)

My thoughts exactly. But we already know the meaningful difference: the MS Flight is proprietary and Flightgear is free as in freedom.

Re:compares to flight gear? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38597226)

Flightgear is a wonderful program (considering it is free software and developed by a handful of people). Nonetheless the Flightgear community will never backstab its users like Microsoft did with the Flight Simulator customers.
The real downside to FG is the amount of content available. Since everyhting has to be GPL if you want to have your content included by default in the sim, for some developers (coming from FS for instance) its a real barrier. You can develop add ons with different licenses but then you won't be able to use FG infrastructure (database, etc...) and you'll have to chase the different addons all over the web.

I like FG, and with some up to date sceneries (that of paris is breathtaking for being a gpl content) and some of most well developed airplanes its good. But globally its still inferior to FS 2004 with state of the art addons and of course inferior to FS X and X-Plane. But it is a good alternative if for some reason you can't or won't use any of the other commercial flight sims.

Re:compares to flight gear? (4, Insightful)

yourlord (473099) | more than 2 years ago | (#38597692)

It doesn't compare to FlightGear. FG is built with a focus on simulating the physics of flight.. It's seen some really nice improvements in the eye candy department as of late as well.

Plus, with FlightGear, it's free, as in freedom, and as in beer, as in "here's the source code and all the artwork!"..

There isn't a market place to buy new locations because the ENTIRE PLANET is available for free in FG. Not to mention hundreds of planes, from gliders to cargo/passenger jets, WWI bi-planes to WWII fighters and bombers, to F-15's, etc.

Local weather phenomenon, real-time real-world weather conditions from live METAR data on the internet, multiplayer support allowing you to fly with people all over the world, all free.

All for free... Any other flightsim is pretty much DOA as far as I'm concerned.

Games for Windows Live network issues (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38597004)

How bout they spend the time to fix Games for Windows Live to work with out connecting a box directly to the internet. Till they fix their problems with stuff not working I will stay away from this.

I thought home flight sim was dead... (2)

mark-t (151149) | more than 2 years ago | (#38597098)

... since 2001, since it could supposedly possibly be used to train terrorists.

Pfft.. (1)

Arashi256 (1804688) | more than 2 years ago | (#38597300)

Graphics in the trailer look like shit considering this is 2012. I gather the "free" bit is one island to fly around and probably one plane - everything else will cost you. And from the content of the trailer, it looks like it's "Microsoft PilotWings 2012". I'll try it, but I think they're going for the "Modern Warfare" casual model rather than an actual flight sim. Time will tell, but I have a horrible feeling about this...

Will there be a Linux version available? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38597718)

Will there be a Linux version available?
Or is it going to be another poorly written single-platform crap?

Microsoft to Offer 'Flight' For Free This Spring (1)

Siggy200 (721326) | more than 2 years ago | (#38597896)

Signed up for the beta test. I have Microsoft Flight Simulator FSX and FS2004 - Century of Flight and have enjoyed flying with my CH Flight Sim yoke.
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