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No, SETI Has Not Detected Alien Signals From Space

Soulskill posted more than 2 years ago | from the feel-free-to-panic-anyway-though dept.

Space 160

The Bad Astronomer writes "Rumors are going around that SETI astronomers have detected possible alien signals from space. Bottom line: signals were detected when the Green Bank Telescope was pointed at target planets discovered by Kepler, but the signals are almost certainly interference from man-made satellites orbiting the Earth. This happens pretty often, so we need to be aware that these kinds of false positives pop up."

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"almost certainly" (5, Funny)

mehrotra.akash (1539473) | more than 2 years ago | (#38613190)

So, theres still a chance of aliens

Re:"almost certainly" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38613234)

Ok Professor Tsoukalos.

Re:"almost certainly" (0)

g0bshiTe (596213) | more than 2 years ago | (#38613384)

I place no stock in a "scientist" that can not pronounce extraterrestrial properly.

Re:"almost certainly" (4, Informative)

geekoid (135745) | more than 2 years ago | (#38614060)

From those of is with speech issues, "Fuck You"

Re:"almost certainly" (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38614240)

Don't you mean "F-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-u-u-u-u-u-u-u-ck-ck-ck-ck-ck-ck-ck y-y-y-ou"?

Re:"almost certainly" (2)

jackbird (721605) | more than 2 years ago | (#38614984)

Well that's easy for you to say.

Re:"almost certainly" (0)

cyborg_monkey (150790) | more than 2 years ago | (#38615174)

Perhaps people with speak issues should be euthanized.

Re:"almost certainly" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38615230)

"From those of is" ?

Typing issues too, apparently. You should get that checked out.

Re:"almost certainly" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38614776)

That's a good example of the "ad hominem" logical fallacy.

Re:"almost certainly" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38613354)

Sure. It could very well be the original broadcasts of 'I Love Kleeg' and 'Zaxak's Island'. It might be quite good, if we could figure out their modulation scheme.

Re:"almost certainly" (4, Funny)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 2 years ago | (#38613470)

Sure. It could very well be the original broadcasts of 'I Love Kleeg' and 'Zaxak's Island'. It might be quite good, if we could figure out their modulation scheme.

Perhaps if we recklessly go about reverse engineering it and violating their intellectual property rights they'll send their lawyers to us with a C & D letter.

I'm not quite certain that could be viewed as a positive development ... imagine making contact with a civilization where they'd excell at legal thinking and came here to practice law? could be a scary thing.

Re:"almost certainly" (1)

Synerg1y (2169962) | more than 2 years ago | (#38613720)

Just list your address using the Galactic Coordinate System.

Re:"almost certainly" (1)

ch-chuck (9622) | more than 2 years ago | (#38613490)

I imagine the aliens decoded NTSC only to find Star Trek TOS and ROFLTAOing.

Re:"almost certainly" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38613944)

Laughing? Well, it could be worse. [imdb.com]

Re:"almost certainly" (2)

KingMotley (944240) | more than 2 years ago | (#38615018)

More like to get the location of the planet with the blue girls.

Signal Partially Translated (5, Funny)

knarfling (735361) | more than 2 years ago | (#38613778)

I have managed to obtain a copy of the signals and have partially translated them. Some of the concepts are untranslatable and I am not completely sure about the things I was able to translate, but here is what I have so far.

My fellow [untranslatable]. It is [concept of time] for [choosing/electing] supreme [unknown concept]. My [friend/acquaintance/opponent] is a [feeble-minded/stupid] [weak/ineffective] [some sort of insect]. [Reminds me/makes me think] of a [not sure here, might be human]. I [pledge/promise] a [small animal] in [each/all/every] [cooking container]. I will [reduce/lower] [required payments/taxes]. [Elect/vote for] Kodos in [unknown time].

Hmmm .... seems like a political speech. No intelligent life out there after all.

Re:"almost certainly" (5, Funny)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 2 years ago | (#38613474)

It's a smegging garbage pod!

Re:"almost certainly" (2)

thygate (1590197) | more than 2 years ago | (#38614982)

Broadcast on all frequencies and all known languages, including Welsh.

Re:"almost certainly" (1)

Ofloo (1378781) | more than 2 years ago | (#38613516)

What do you mean chance, .. are you all claiming that live only exists on this planet in all those universes ? I mean they might not be intelligent, but life will find a way no matter what, thinking life only exists here is just plain stupid. I'm not claiming they came here to abduct people and shit like that, just suggesting out of all the solar systems out there, do any of you really believe that life only exists here ? To me that's just being naive.

Re:"almost certainly" (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38613718)

The thing is, we have no idea how common life is. So far there is no indication is exists anywhere but here.

Now if we could just find something, anything that shows life is or was on another planet (even within this solar system) then that changes things.

We need to be putting more money into exploring Mars.

Re:"almost certainly" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38613818)

The thing is, we've only just begun to look. With your pessimism, when I open my front door and look outside during a work day, I can only conclude I'm the only human alive on the entire planet. I need to put more money into my backyard since obviously nothing exists out the front.

Re:"almost certainly" (2)

fusiongyro (55524) | more than 2 years ago | (#38614222)

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. It's not pessimism, it's just acknowledging that one example isn't a pattern. To take away from it that the universe is teeming with life is reading just as much into the tiny scrap of evidence we have as saying there is no life. In general, when you can use the same evidence to make two equally strong yet completely contradictory arguments, you're better off just shutting up.

So with Brent as my witness, let's leave it at "well, dude, we just don't know."

Re:"almost certainly" (1)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 2 years ago | (#38615182)

We know that intelligent life not very common, or if it is then it's very shy. Life began on this planet well over a billion years ago and we're in orbit around a second-generation star. Anyone evolving around a first-generation star would have a few billion years head start, although a shortage of heavy elements would make technology difficult. We are less than a thousand years away from being able to build self-replicating probes that can explore the entire galaxy within a million years. Compared with the time that's elapsed since complex life evolved on this planet and now, a million years is basically nothing, yet that's all that it would take for a species to put a big 'Hi there!' sign in every star system in this galaxy - something that would be easily detectable by any species to evolve on any planet.

Re:"almost certainly" (1)

TheCouchPotatoFamine (628797) | more than 2 years ago | (#38615376)

shy is another word for developed-efficient-point-to-point comms and gave up on radio a long time ago. Then again, i suppose you'd have a peep or two... if we were in the right 100,000 years or so. You never know what civilization might pop up to radio intelligence out there... or when.

Re:"almost certainly" (0)

Vintowin (1476905) | more than 2 years ago | (#38613734)

What do you mean chance, .. are you all claiming that live only exists on this planet in all those universes ? I mean they might not be intelligent, but life will find a way no matter what, thinking life only exists here is just plain stupid. I'm not claiming they came here to abduct people and shit like that, just suggesting out of all the solar systems out there, do any of you really believe that life only exists here ? To me that's just being naive.

Not only that, but if mankind is the best the universe has come up with so far, it's a pretty piss poor example! We are certainly not the "pinnacle of civilization".

Re:"almost certainly" (4, Insightful)

geekoid (135745) | more than 2 years ago | (#38614078)

Actually, if we are alone, then Yes we ARE the "pinnacle of civilization".

Re:"almost certainly" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38614934)

Your thinking is so three-dimensional. First the Romans, now you guys. Pinnacle indeed.

Good Luck,
The Future

P.S. Please save a sample of Scarlet Johansson's DNA in a safe deposit box in the Bank of America building in San Francisco.

Re:"almost certainly" (1)

sempir (1916194) | more than 2 years ago | (#38614392)

Not only that, but if mankind is the best the universe has come up with so far, it's a pretty piss poor example! We are certainly not the "pinnacle of civilization".

We are what we are because we were what we were. This is our pinnacle! Maybe it will get better maybe not.I think we will get better and survive despite ourselves for many an eon to come. Lets face it there is still lots of whisky to be drunk and I will be dead before it runs out so you young buggers better get your finger out (extractus digitus for you toffee nosed bastards) and keep mankind focused on looking after this wee sphere of yours.Methinks it's all you will have. Oh yes...I am naive.

Re:"almost certainly" (1)

phrostie (121428) | more than 2 years ago | (#38613736)

all efforts for find intelligent life are out bound.

no one is looking here.

wait,,,,.

Re:"almost certainly" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38613952)

Hey, Live hasn't been the same since Kowalczyk left, might as well not exist.

Re:"almost certainly" (2)

0xdeadbeef (28836) | more than 2 years ago | (#38614630)

To me that's just being naive.

Asserting certainty for a fact for which you have zero evidence and you're calling other people naive.

Slashdot never ceases to amuse.

Re:"almost certainly" (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 2 years ago | (#38614048)

I'm not saying it's aliens, but, It's aliens.

Re:"almost certainly" (1)

FingerDemon (638040) | more than 2 years ago | (#38614712)

"For the fundamental truth self-determination of the cosmos, for dark is the suede that mows like a harvest. "

Beh (2)

Hognoxious (631665) | more than 2 years ago | (#38613208)

It's the North Koreans. They're up to something, sure as eggs is eggs.

Re:Beh (4, Funny)

discord5 (798235) | more than 2 years ago | (#38613280)

It's the North Koreans. They're up to something, sure as eggs is eggs.

It is space saying mourning the honorable half-god Kim Jong Il's departure. Spontaneous radio broadcasts from space are known to happen when the heavens weep.

Re:Beh (1)

slashmydots (2189826) | more than 2 years ago | (#38613606)

It might actually be the ghost of Kim Jong Il sending signals from the afterlife. I heard on a very respectable North Korean news network that he can do that.

Re:Beh (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38613644)

....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0US7JEfhsrA dont trust your eggs!

Uh-huh (4, Funny)

warrax_666 (144623) | more than 2 years ago | (#38613226)

That's just what the aliens want us to believe!

Re:Uh-huh (1)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 2 years ago | (#38613346)

That's just what the aliens want us to believe!

Yeah. Well, what do you think of aliens on other worlds deciding to believe we do not exist?

such temerity!

Re:Uh-huh (2)

nschubach (922175) | more than 2 years ago | (#38613614)

Deciding to believe we don't exist, or covering up that we exist so their populace won't be scared of us...

Re:Uh-huh (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 2 years ago | (#38614106)

Yes, scared of a civilization that can't do anything to them.

Now, some global cult hiding are existence because it would be against the religious doctrine..THAT'S plausible.

Re:Uh-huh (1)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 2 years ago | (#38614574)

Yes, scared of a civilization that can't do anything to them.

Now, some global cult hiding are existence because it would be against the religious doctrine..THAT'S plausible.

How about we sic Lady Gaga on them?

or her fashion consultant!

Please my alien brothers... (2)

stevegee58 (1179505) | more than 2 years ago | (#38613296)

...pluck me from my miserable existence and take me to your glistening planet!
Oh. Never mind.

Re:Please my alien brothers... (2)

wideBlueSkies (618979) | more than 2 years ago | (#38613688)

Don't worry, they are here to serve us.

Re:Please my alien brothers... (1)

dmbasso (1052166) | more than 2 years ago | (#38613988)

I only hope they are not here to "serve and protect" [and pepperspray] us.

Re:Please my alien brothers... (1)

laejoh (648921) | more than 2 years ago | (#38614238)

OB Simpsons: I only hope they are not here to "serve and protect" [and pepperspray] for forty of us. Damn space dust!

Re:Please my alien brothers... (1)

gestalt_n_pepper (991155) | more than 2 years ago | (#38614218)

Aliens: OK, here you are. Oh, that glistening? That's just what we spray on our food to make it brown up nicely. Here, step into this heat box and let us show you...

OK, so nobody has let us know abou them (1)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 2 years ago | (#38613306)

But that doesn't mean they do not exist.

Let's give SETI another 20 years! T'is better to hope for alien contact than to have no hope at all! =)

Re:OK, so nobody has let us know abou them (0)

Vintowin (1476905) | more than 2 years ago | (#38613750)

Do you honestly think if they do find any signals, that the government would let it be known.. This could very well be a coverup. I put nothing past them.

Re:OK, so nobody has let us know abou them (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 2 years ago | (#38614184)

Of course they would. It would be stupid of them not to.

I will set altruistic reasons a side.

Lets see:
A) You can control people who a afraid.
B) You will get a whole new defence arm - So it's advantageous to the military to let it be known.
C) Money - Someone has to build all the new toys the military will need - SO it's in the best interest to corporation to let it be known.
D) Someone has to launch all these new toys - It's in NASAs best interest to let it be known.

The more cynical you are the more reason there is for them to let us know.

This is why a Roswell* cover up is a stupid idea. The military budget would have gone through the roof if it had actually been aliens.

* Besides all the other facts, like children's tape, documents and witness that create the balloon.

Re:OK, so nobody has let us know abou them (3, Funny)

Hartree (191324) | more than 2 years ago | (#38614914)

So, you're saying:

    1. Find aliens.

    2. Announce to world.

    3. ...

    4. ...

    5. Profit!

Re:OK, so nobody has let us know abou them (1)

fusiongyro (55524) | more than 2 years ago | (#38614294)

I love this idea. So there's some sort of government layer between scientists and their phones, email, blogs, and everything? That they have the infrastructure to cover this up successfully, but can't cover up when one of their own officials does one thing with one other person alone in a room in which they are the only two people? The people they'd be most interested in covering this up from are also the people who are the least likely to believe anything a scientist says anyway.

Re:OK, so nobody has let us know abou them (1)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 2 years ago | (#38614594)

I love this idea. So there's some sort of government layer between scientists and their phones, email, blogs, and everything? That they have the infrastructure to cover this up successfully, but can't cover up when one of their own officials does one thing with one other person alone in a room in which they are the only two people? The people they'd be most interested in covering this up from are also the people who are the least likely to believe anything a scientist says anyway.

The NRA would be the first to reach out to them and preach Disintegrater Ray Rights.

Re:OK, so nobody has let us know abou them (2)

jellomizer (103300) | more than 2 years ago | (#38614118)

I remember seeing somewhere that although our radio signals reach on for long time. About when it leaves our solar system they become so intertwined with all the other sources of radio that it becomes unreadable.
It will be like encrypting a message with using a true random message that you cannot find the seed.

off-topic (1)

hoboroadie (1726896) | more than 2 years ago | (#38613314)

I sure hated when they deprecated my old SETI account, I was just about to earn a new (100,000 unit) certificate. bastards. see ifn I bother to install the new program.

Re:off-topic (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38613444)

Was this when they switched to BOINC? I was kind of in the same boat...

okay soooo....... (1)

KingPin27 (1290730) | more than 2 years ago | (#38613334)

I for one welcome our new alien communication overlords.

Re:okay soooo....... (1)

Sfing_ter (99478) | more than 2 years ago | (#38613498)

Indeed, welcome and stop by the gift shop on your way out!

News: Alien Signal was Missed (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38613348)

Scientists say yet another signal was not detected. Hopefully one will be soon, or bye bye funding.

Warning. (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38613362)


Phil Plait is the official PR person for the Illuminati's Extra Terrestrial Embassy Group. The goal is to keep the occupation of Earth quiet until such a time that Their footsoldiers are placed at strategic positions around the world. Bodyguards for high ranking politicians and diplomats, military personnel, etc.

He is NOT to be trusted.

Oblig (5, Funny)

should_be_linear (779431) | more than 2 years ago | (#38613366)

I, for one, welcome our new satellite-interference-simulating-before-landing-and-raping-us overlords.

Re:Oblig (1)

wideBlueSkies (618979) | more than 2 years ago | (#38613642)

Hell, they can take some of the water too if that's what they want. We can use some more landmass around here.

Just leave us some of those cool looking walking missile launchers.

Re:Oblig (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38613760)

No, no, no! It's satellite-interference-ass-*probing*-time overlords! Much better... uh...

Re:Oblig (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38614196)

Are you hinting that Japan somehow knows about this already, and that they have tentacles?

Interesting e-mail address... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38613436)

... has the bad astronomer anyway.

On the plus side (1)

kiehlster (844523) | more than 2 years ago | (#38613460)

It does go to prove that the system is working. If it can't detect terrestrial signals, then it certainly isn't going to detect extraterrestrial signals.

Call me an idiot ... (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38613496)

If you’re pointed at an alien transmitter, then moving the telescope will point you in a different direction, and the signal should go away. On the other hand, strong satellite signals can be detected by radio telescopes even when they point in another direction; the signal can leak into the telescopes even when you’re pointed well away.

If you move a thousand miles and the source is a thousand light years away, the angular deviation is almost precisely zero.

But if you move a thousand miles and the source is ten miles away, you're basically moving out of the source's way.

So wouldn't you expect the signal to go away for a man-made satellite, and stay for an alien signal? That's the precise opposite of what they're saying.

And if telescopes in any location, pointing to some specific direction, pick up the same satellite, surely they also pick it up when pointing to other stars? So this satellite that magically interferes with two different telescopes must be a real problem for those telescopes.

Something smells fishy to me.

Re:Call me an idiot ... (1)

wideBlueSkies (618979) | more than 2 years ago | (#38613656)

>>Something smells fishy to me.

I agree. A coverup must be in the works.

Re:Call me an idiot ... (3, Insightful)

methamorph (950510) | more than 2 years ago | (#38613704)

Idiot. :) They don't suggest that the telescope moves from one place on the earth to another (while keeping the same angle) but rather change the angle of the telescope that will cause the signal from a remote source to disappear.

Re:Call me an idiot ... (1)

Achra (846023) | more than 2 years ago | (#38615008)

Mod parent up. People that don't understand radio shouldn't comment about radio.

Re:Call me an idiot ... (5, Informative)

ColdWetDog (752185) | more than 2 years ago | (#38613836)

If you move a thousand miles and the source is a thousand light years away, the angular deviation is almost precisely zero.

But if you move a thousand miles and the source is ten miles away, you're basically moving out of the source's way.

So wouldn't you expect the signal to go away for a man-made satellite, and stay for an alien signal? That's the precise opposite of what they're saying.

Side lobes [wikipedia.org] . Radio transmitter antennas typically do not radiate in a perfectly spherical, cow shaped arrangement. There are strong lobes and weak (side lobes). If you track the signal through space, you should get a pretty good idea what the shape really is. You can compare that to the generalized, known shapes of the antenna radiation patterns are on various spacecrafts and get a pretty good idea if it's either a satellite or the most godawful giant radio transmitter the universe has ever seen.

Re:Call me an idiot ... (3, Funny)

wideBlueSkies (618979) | more than 2 years ago | (#38614022)

Are we pointing at Epsilon Erindi? Could we be reading the Great Machine?

Re:Call me an idiot ... (1)

dotancohen (1015143) | more than 2 years ago | (#38615166)

Radio transmitter antennas typically do not radiate in a perfectly spherical, cow shaped arrangement.

At least the "in a vacuum" part is implicit, seeing how the transmissions are though space.

Oh, and you might like this:
http://abstrusegoose.com/406 [abstrusegoose.com]

Wake up people (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38613548)

ground observers note that China's Sky lab and the secretive X-37B are both co-orbiting lately so they can take a look at the same piece of space.... ...and now we find that SETI has heard something ....and we're told not to worry about it, it's "almost certainly" nothing for us to think about

They are out there.

Re:Wake up people (0)

ColdWetDog (752185) | more than 2 years ago | (#38613870)

They are out there.

No you are out there.

mega trojan! (1)

slashmydots (2189826) | more than 2 years ago | (#38613592)

...or alien satellites orbiting Earth! BOOM, blew your mind right there.

Really bad article (4, Interesting)

mbone (558574) | more than 2 years ago | (#38613622)

Yeah, I had to really dig through the Berkeley web site [berkeley.edu] to figure out what they were actually claiming. It's no wonder people are confused.

It's as if I took pictures of some distant airplanes and posted a blog about taking pictures of UFOs, highlighting my pictures, and talked about how these pictures had all the confirming points I was looking for in a UFO picture, with a note at the bottom saying that, as I didn't have any actual UFO pictures, I substituted these.

It would be hard to claim sympathy if I was then ridiculed, which I suspect they will be.

Re:Really bad article (-1, Flamebait)

ColdWetDog (752185) | more than 2 years ago | (#38613934)

I find it rather ironic that it's UC Berkely (Berzerkly) that is hosting SETI. The most out-of-planet experience this side of Boulder, CO looking for 'extraterrestrials'. Pot, meet kettle.

Nothing to see here. Please move along. (-1, Offtopic)

cashman73 (855518) | more than 2 years ago | (#38613768)

What they heard was actually just a jumbled and garbled transmission of a Ron Paul speech, lost in the medium of our satellites caused by the release of sewer gas into the upper atmosphere by supporters of Rick Santorum. Oh, wait, it wasn't scrambled, but it was still a Ron Paul speech, so it still made no sense to anyone on this planet. More at 11!

Get Seth (4, Interesting)

geekoid (135745) | more than 2 years ago | (#38613976)

to do an interview on slashdot.

Also, get their podcast. It's lame puns and excellent science

http://radio.seti.org/ [seti.org]

LV-426 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38614138)

The first alien signal from outer space has to come from this planet. It HAS to.

In a way, GOOD & In a way, BAD (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38614208)

GOOD = Alien intelligence MAY not be out for "our best interests" ala the colonists that came to the N. American continent & doing what they did to the Native Americans & others on it (think Pizarro/Spain + what happened w/ they bringing disease iirc, & the Brit colonials) OR, worse...

BAD = Alien intelligence MAY have solved our problems we're having possibly millenia ago & can help us (and "turn us on" to new ways of thinking & doing things too, as well as culture!)

* I did SETI for "Team Microsoft", circa 1999 when it started, up to around... oh... 2007 iirc. & I was up to #13 'top-spot' @ one point, then I stopped doing it...

APK

P.S.=> Worst comes to worst (assuming we're even SCANNING FOR THE RIGHT KIND OF DATA (EM stuff ala radio spectrum so far only afaik)? Well... I always thought that we could use said data, based on signals detected in addition to the NEW infra-red spectra telescopy being used & detecting "earth-like possibles" in combination with it, as a form of "stellar pre-cartography" almost (to decide on candidates to one far off day to send starships for exploration/colonization with it)...

... apk

Signature of humanity (4, Insightful)

pclminion (145572) | more than 2 years ago | (#38614270)

Humans should module some very low bit-rate, spread spectrum, wide band signal onto every single transmission we generate, which identifies that transmission as being human in origin. In the future, if we detect a signal we can just check if this signature is there. If it is, question answered. If not, something interesting is happening.

Re:Signature of humanity (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38614648)

Humans should module some very low bit-rate, spread spectrum, wide band signal onto every single transmission we generate, which identifies that transmission as being human in origin. In the future, if we detect a signal we can just check if this signature is there. If it is, question answered. If not, something interesting is happening.

no. that costs too much

Re:Signature of humanity (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38615080)

Copyright infringement. It would be taken down by RIAA

Re:Signature of humanity (1)

netsavior (627338) | more than 2 years ago | (#38615332)

Good idea! That would make hoaxes way easier.

A sense of scale (4, Interesting)

IWantMoreSpamPlease (571972) | more than 2 years ago | (#38614304)

I have photographed the Green Bank Radiotelescope a few times, that place is *massive*, pictures don't do it justice, I mean it's really friggin' big. Best I can show is this pic I took of the area http://plaguedbethyangel.blogspot.com/2011/10/closer.html [blogspot.com] I love it made the news (the GBR, not my pics) today

first things first (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38614360)

Before looking for all these extra terrestrials, shouldn't we should a few initial aliens first? I know it's good to aim high but it's always been my understanding that you start with one, then you find the extras.

Do you really want to know? (1)

na1led (1030470) | more than 2 years ago | (#38614400)

If we did find Aliens, the public would never find out.

Re:Do you really want to know? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38614814)

Aliens = Life outside of Earth = no mention in Bible = Panic = keep quiet at all costs or else there will be a revolt.

Re:Do you really want to know? (1)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 2 years ago | (#38615296)

Yes, because public panics historically have been so bad for governments and big corporations...

Rickrolled (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38614606)

Let's just hope that the satellite was transmitting a Rickroll at the time. Detecting alien signals: awesome. Rickrolled by aliens: priceless.

Alone, we are (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38614676)

..at least in the frequency ranges we KNOW about.

Really, expecting to find something with SETI is like discovering a remote island in the 1700's and expecting people there to speak fluent and perfect English. The truth may be closer under our noses than most "modern, scientific" people might think.

[womdering if this post too, along with dozens of others of mine, will to vanish in censorship.]

Infinite Monkey stupidity (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38614824)

If we have an infinite number of monkeys sitting at an infinite number of laptops pounding away we will eventually produce every great literary work of mankind. Let us assume the average literary work has 120,000 characters. Further let us assume that the laptops all have 88 key keyboards. the odds of typing out a literary work are 1 in 88^120,000. In other words the monkey has to press the correct 1 out of 88 keys 120,000 times. Now suppose we give each monkey a cube of X per side. Each literary work is X times 88^120,000 distance from each other. Now assume that the odds of developing intelligent life is the same as a monkey pounding out a literary work on a laptop and change the X to the average distance in light years between Earth Like planets and suddenly the odds of two intelligent species coming into contact are, well, the odds of one person winning the lottery 700,000 times are better than our infinite monkey metaphor intelligent species coming into contact with each other.

How many species intelligent enough to build inter-stellar space craft have developed after millions of years here on Earth. Lets count them. Oh, that's right NONE.

How many species intelligent enough to develop mathematics have formed here on Earth. One. So out of the billions of life forms here on Earth only one was smart enough to develop math.

Yeah, I'm not buying the whole "space alien" visitor hype. The probability is so low that I would be better off spending every dollar I make on buying lottery tickets rather than investing in the idea of alien life.

we need to be aware (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38614916)

>> we need to be aware that these kinds of false positives pop up

Your absolutely right! Thanks for sharing news that doesn't matter!

Why the Surprise? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38614942)

Somehow I am not the least bit surprised -- and no, I am not one of the ostriches believing that in a Universe this size that we are along. Consider what has happened in my lifetime -- we have moved from powerful transmitters blathering away in all directions to low power signals. Witness cell phones and digital TV, to say nothing of satellite internet connections. I suspect that at cosmic distances this all blurs into noise. So the 1930s broadcast of the Berlin Olympics should be considered more the exception than the rule, IMHO. And we are assuming, of course, that RF is the only technology that could be used -- although we use directed laser for a lot of high bandwidth stuff now. So maybe a great idea back in the 1950's.

Message Decoded (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38614960)

I have also decoded it:

Dear distant new friend,
I am Zoltag Sxrrfltz, with the Directorate of the New United Federation of Lesser Planets,
and represent the former ruler of the Sigma Tau confederacy, who even now is
illegally incarcerated by rebels. Because of my high position within our government,
I have access to certain secret storage areas which contain great wealth. At the moment I have
a large number of adamantine/polyvez transport modules (each containing over one hundred
million galactic credits) sitting in a storage unit, but due to the current political
climate have no way to deposit via our normal trade channels. If you would be
interested, I would teleport all 78 of these containers (via normal quantum foam channels)
directly to your coordinates. You would then manage this large amount of wealth (on my
behalf) on your planet. For your trouble I would be willing to grant you a 35% share of everything
I send you. All I need to begin is your Discover card.

move along (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38615100)

These are not the life forms you are looking for

Boys from air traffic res say skies are clear (1)

isorox (205688) | more than 2 years ago | (#38615384)

This better not be another damn Russian spy job

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