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Doctor Warns of the Hidden Danger of Touchscreens

samzenpus posted more than 2 years ago | from the touch-too-much dept.

Medicine 242

snydeq writes "Dr. Franklin Tessler discusses the hidden stress-related injuries of touchscreen use, and how best to use smartphones, tablets, and touch PCs to avoid them. 'Touchscreen-oriented health hazards are even more insidious because most people aren't even aware that they exist. The potential for injury from using touchscreens will only go up ... as the rise of the touchscreen means both new kinds of health hazards and more usage in risky scenarios,' Tessler writes, providing tips for properly positioning touchscreens and ways to avoid repetitive stress injuries and eyestrain."

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Why is this crap even on Slashdot? (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38666478)

Come on.

Re:Why is this crap even on Slashdot? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38666644)

I think it has something to do with the advertisers on InfoWorld [infoworld.com] .

Re:Why is this crap even on Slashdot? (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38666680)

I've already experienced mild RSI in the thumb after somewhat excessive touch screen use. Same as with mouse and keyboard use. I don't see why this would be something to write off. Rather, it is obvious that it would become a problem at some point.

Re:Why is this crap even on Slashdot? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38666806)

pussy

Re:Why is this crap even on Slashdot? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38667166)

Aye, pussy!

You should try tablets (5, Funny)

symbolset (646467) | more than 2 years ago | (#38666836)

You wouldn't believe the RSI potentials here. Just chiseling a single line of text gives me blisters.

Re:Why is this crap even on Slashdot? (4, Funny)

ArhcAngel (247594) | more than 2 years ago | (#38666904)

You want to talk RSI? try playing Street Fighter II [wikipedia.org] on the SNES [wikipedia.org] for 16 hours straight. I had to have thumb splints for months!

Re:Why is this crap even on Slashdot? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38666972)

If you'll check me medical records, you'll see that I have crippling arthritis in my index fingers. I got it from space invaders, in 1977.

Re:Why is this crap even on Slashdot? (4, Interesting)

Samantha Wright (1324923) | more than 2 years ago | (#38667072)

This is the sort of thing that makes me stare at fighting game players in utter incredulity. How and why would anyone ever put up with such ridiculously tiresome finger movements for so long? It's probably healthier to get into an actual fistfight!

Re:Why is this crap even on Slashdot? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38667154)

rsi = wanker's cramp

Because it pertains to nerds (5, Informative)

Compaqt (1758360) | more than 2 years ago | (#38666726)

What are you talking about? Good on you for having great health.

Meanwhile plenty of geeks suffer from computer-related health problems. The most common up to now has been carpal tunnel or repetitive stress syndrome.

The advent of touchscreens means people are bending their necks downward for extended periods. For many/most it may not be a problem.

For others, it can result in cervical spondylosis [google.com] , a debilitating condition of the neck.

The reason for such articles is to encourage people to take preventive measures. One of the best is Workrave [workrave.org] , a break reminder program for Win and Lin. Click to install [deb] . (Deb/Ub/Mint)

Re:Because it pertains to nerds (3, Informative)

AlienIntelligence (1184493) | more than 2 years ago | (#38666812)

What are you talking about? Good on you for having great health.

Meanwhile plenty of geeks suffer from computer-related health problems. The most common up to now has been carpal tunnel or repetitive stress syndrome.

One trip to a REAL doctor and you'll find that CTS, really doesn't
exist for people that use computers, correctly.

I can give you the number to a real Dr, if you'd like to talk to him.

I'm sure he would have loved to make the money from the surgery
on my ex-wife's wrist. Instead, he said... adjust your chair height
to where your arm, at 45 degree extension, will have your radius/ulna
parallel and about an inch above the desk surface. Buy a gel pad
for the kb and the mouse and you'll be fine in a few months.

And she was.

I had the same thing... absolutely crippling pain from the base of
my palm, all the way thru my shoulder-blade. I raised my seat,
maybe an inch. Gone in months.

If you have your chair at the wrong height... put too much weight
on your wrists when you type and mouse... you will get symptoms
that appear to be CTS and RSD... but aren't. CT scan will prove it.

Myth, busted.

-AI

Re:Because it pertains to nerds (3, Funny)

jdgeorge (18767) | more than 2 years ago | (#38667050)

Umm.... so, your point is that you agree with the parent's advice to prevent the issues from becoming a major health problem.... Got it.

I'd like to take you seriously . . . (5, Funny)

hideouspenguinboy (1342659) | more than 2 years ago | (#38667194)

But, your use of, commas, has driven me to, bang my head, against my desk . . .

. . .resulting in CST. I got a gel pad though so I'll be fine in a few months.

Lawsuits (2)

sycodon (149926) | more than 2 years ago | (#38667198)

This Tessler guy is just doing the foundation work for future lawsuits.

Just watch, in several years someone will sue Apple or other tablet makers and Tessler will be in the expert witness seat.

Re:Because it pertains to nerds (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38666938)

How is a touch screen smart phone causing me to crane my neck more than a tactile keyboard smart phone?

Re:Because it pertains to nerds (4, Informative)

tlhIngan (30335) | more than 2 years ago | (#38666970)

The advent of touchscreens means people are bending their necks downward for extended periods. For many/most it may not be a problem.

I doubt that. People have been reporting problems before touch screens. Blackberry users, for example, but also people who text a lot on their non-touchscreen phones.

The medical condition is real, but the cause is not - it's not a recent thing brought on the explosion of touch screens - it's been around for years. Notably brought on because the folks with blackberries (out over a decade) tend to be older businesspeople and thus experienced it years before. Or people texting on their phones for nearly two decades now. And young kids have been glued to their Nintendo portables for nearly 2 1/2 decades.

Re:Why is this crap even on Slashdot? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38666792)

Because the InfoWorld.com submitter is submitting an InfoWorld.com article, and Geek.net is probably getting a little something on the side. Gotta love slashvertising.

Re:Why is this crap even on Slashdot? (2)

MrHanky (141717) | more than 2 years ago | (#38666860)

Because loads of people here are buying into the nonsense that touchscreens are so awesome [worrydream.com] and the future of everything.

Re:Why is this crap even on Slashdot? (4, Informative)

jdgeorge (18767) | more than 2 years ago | (#38667108)

Touchscreens are awesome, and they are the future of a lot of human-computer interaction. They're simply not a substitute for a real keyboard, or a properly arranged physical workspace.

Re:Why is this crap even on Slashdot? (2, Interesting)

bmo (77928) | more than 2 years ago | (#38667070)

This gets a 5? Really?

I didn't believe RSI existed until I actually got it myself, with pain going from my hand, around my elbow up to my shoulder. Previously I had thought that RSI was no big deal and I thought it was psychosomatic.

I found out that RSI can be some serious friggin' pain. The hard way.

The culprit was the Logitech MX1000 that I bought. One of the early laser mice. It's a pile of shit shaped into a huge lump that makes you cock your wrist back if you let your wrist lay on the desk.

It didn't take long, actually, to get the RSI. A couple of weeks with that mouse and I was done for.

I solved the issue by going to a trackball and elevating my forearm to straighten out my wrist. With this, the pain went away - I was no longer bending my wrist back and I could keep my forearm in one place so as to keep the wrist at the same angle.

So you, OP, do not deserve the 5. You deserve a -1 because you are a dumbass troll.

--
BMO

Re:Why is this crap even on Slashdot? (4, Funny)

thePowerOfGrayskull (905905) | more than 2 years ago | (#38667110)

Come on.

To piss you off.

Seriously, that's the only reason. It's posted to troll you, personally.

Re:Why is this crap even on Slashdot? (1)

Stan92057 (737634) | more than 2 years ago | (#38667202)

Because what interests one geek doesn't interest another. It might not be the Holy Grail of Geek topics but its one that affects all geeks.

good job they don't have pointy corners (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38666480)

you could have your eye out

Re:good job they don't have pointy corners (2)

Mashiki (184564) | more than 2 years ago | (#38666842)

I wouldn't worry about your eyes. Just think what happens when you eat the things.

Re:good job they don't have pointy corners (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38667176)

you could have your eye out

Only if you are holding it wrong.

Not this again..... (4, Insightful)

icebike (68054) | more than 2 years ago | (#38666486)

More hype to sell the same tripe.

Seems to be simply latching onto the current fad toy and trying to saddle it with the same things they have been attributing to computers since the 80's.
There is nothing new in the article, simply attributing the same (largely imaginary) "diseases" to a different activity. But by mentioning touch screens they grab the headlines. Nothing about a touch screen forces you into the same position, viewing distance, or hand movements, in fact a tablet is probably the remedy for such complaints more than the cause.

But they trot out the same stuff they were crying about with desktop computers: Repeated motion injuries, Posture, Eyestrain.

I'm surprised they left off testicular heating [chicagotribune.com] .

Really? Touch screens?
This looks like building a case for more insurance fraud [carsonfury.com] if you ask me.

Re:Not this again..... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38666516)

First world problem.

Re:Not this again..... (2)

ClintJCL (264898) | more than 2 years ago | (#38666556)

Considering I avoid touchscreens as much as possible (vastly preferring my wife's android phone with a real keyboard and trackball; also great if your touchscreen develops a deadspot), and get repetitive stress injuries easily (had to drive one-handed for 6 months once from lifting a beer keg into my car), I see no reason to dispute this article. Touchscreens absolutely put more wear and tear on parts of my body never accustomed to it. At least keyboard-strain is something I've learned to cope with -- don't sleep with my hand under the pillow anymore; drive with whatever hand is the good hand that month; mouse with my off-hand (left, cause i'm right-handed), etc etc. But yes, this is a new kind of strain. Just got my first touchscreen device this year, a GPS. I very quickly learned what the unlabeled buttons did, as my fingers are f'in sore after using it.

Re:Not this again..... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38666648)

had to drive one-handed for 6 months once from lifting a beer keg into my car

I drive one handed every time I see an attractive woman.

Re:Not this again..... (5, Funny)

K. S. Kyosuke (729550) | more than 2 years ago | (#38666752)

had to drive one-handed for 6 months once from lifting a beer keg into my car

I drive one handed every time I see an attractive woman.

I'm not going to ask who drives the car when you see two attractive women...

Re:Not this again..... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38666786)

I don't think he's got two penises, so your point is moot.

Re:Not this again..... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38667188)

...or a goat.

Re:Not this again..... (1)

desdinova 216 (2000908) | more than 2 years ago | (#38666820)

ewww That's TMI

Re:Not this again..... (4, Funny)

Kelbear (870538) | more than 2 years ago | (#38667056)

What's wrong with waving hello?

Re:Not this again..... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38667128)

had to drive one-handed for 6 months once from lifting a beer keg into my car

I drive one handed every time I see an attractive woman.

The obvious question is: "What where you doing with your other hand?"

Re:Not this again..... (3, Insightful)

MoonBuggy (611105) | more than 2 years ago | (#38666654)

I...get repetitive stress injuries easily (had to drive one-handed for 6 months once from lifting a beer keg into my car)

Genuine question: how does lifting a keg equate to repetitive stress? I can understand pulling a muscle or something, but lifting something in and out of the car once or twice seems far from all but the most excessive definition of 'repetitive'.

Re:Not this again..... (1)

oldmac31310 (1845668) | more than 2 years ago | (#38666766)

Guessing he could have damaged his ulnar nerve. Which could have been compromised by repetitive stress and the heavy weight was the final injury that put his arm out of commission. Just guessing as I said.

Re:Not this again..... (1)

iamhassi (659463) | more than 2 years ago | (#38666722)

Considering I avoid touchscreens as much as possible (vastly preferring my wife's android phone with a real keyboard and trackball; also great if your touchscreen develops a deadspot), and get repetitive stress injuries easily (had to drive one-handed for 6 months once from lifting a beer keg into my car), I see no reason to dispute this article. Touchscreens absolutely put more wear and tear on parts of my body never accustomed to it.

Actually if you read the article you would have realized that it has nothing to do with touchscreens, the reasons given for the "stress" was eye strain and typing with thumbs which is required for any phone.

Re:Not this again..... (1)

ClintJCL (264898) | more than 2 years ago | (#38666772)

Curses. :)

[Though I think most of the comments here would apply to both, and they were what drove me to post my comment. :)]

Re:Not this again..... (4, Funny)

AlienIntelligence (1184493) | more than 2 years ago | (#38666844)

and get repetitive stress injuries easily (had to drive one-handed for 6 months once from lifting a beer keg into my car),

Fuck man, if you got injured from repetitively lifting beer kegs into your car...
and you're not doing it for a living, you have other problems.

-AI

Re:Not this again..... (1)

ClintJCL (264898) | more than 2 years ago | (#38666996)

You're not the first to point this out, but you're the funniest. :)

Couldn't you have just (1)

drainbramage (588291) | more than 2 years ago | (#38667148)

Let go of the keg?

Re:Couldn't you have just (1)

ClintJCL (264898) | more than 2 years ago | (#38667192)

NEVER!

Re:Not this again..... (-1, Flamebait)

Synerg1y (2169962) | more than 2 years ago | (#38666574)

Yep, I knew the first fag that posts here would completely flame the article,

Read this...

http://www.wristhand.com/ergonomics.html [wristhand.com]

Realize that this is about the same

Keyboard ergonomics are

1. a sub-industry
2. an accepted science (they teach it in school in typing class)

It is a shame they left the testies out though, laptops can indeed kill sperm (non-permanently of course) :)

Either way it won't matter till your about 60ish, but if you want a good retirement life, posture at ANYTHING you do is a very good way to attain it.

Re:Not this again..... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38666624)

How do you know he is a fag? Or do you just throw out insults because of an insecurity you have about your masculinity?

Re:Not this again..... (0)

ArhcAngel (247594) | more than 2 years ago | (#38667048)

DUH? Of course the person "flaming" the article is a fag...or at the very least a cross-dresser.

Re:Not this again..... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38666636)

We need a real expert on here. Paging Dr. Bob!

Re:Not this again..... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38666740)

Just bite through the pain ffs! That's how my granddad got through a full-working life! People are pussies these days.

Re:Not this again..... (1)

AlienIntelligence (1184493) | more than 2 years ago | (#38666920)

Just bite through the pain ffs! That's how my granddad got through a full-working life! People are pussies these days.

No shit.. just wait til they find 40 and arthritis starts hitting.

Yesterday my knee was 5-6 in pain. I probably have hundreds
of pain pills from "good meaning" doctors in my cabinets. But
who the hell wants to be popping pills for the rest of their life?

So... just steeled myself and kept working. Today it's back to
normal 1-2 pain. Love winter.

Hell, my (other ex) was addicted to Vicodin, I had to threaten
her Dr to make him stop prescribing them.

Now I keep my strong pills in case someone accidentally cuts
an arm off, lol.

-AI

Re:Not this again..... (1)

PIBM (588930) | more than 2 years ago | (#38666758)

From that page: "Sitting in a chair places 400 pounds of pressure on your lower back."

That would mean there's 400 pounds of me over the lower back, not including anything supported by the desk on which I'm resting my arms. Care to explain how that's possible ? Isn't the average male weight under 200 pounds anyway ?

Re:Not this again..... (1)

Pope (17780) | more than 2 years ago | (#38666824)

Probably PSI. Women in high heel shoes have incredibly high PSI centred on the heel, even if they don't weigh much :)

Re:Not this again..... (2)

khr (708262) | more than 2 years ago | (#38666800)

It is a shame they left the testies out though, laptops can indeed kill sperm (non-permanently of course) :)

Are you kidding? As somone who hates kids and condoms, that's a selling point!

Re:Not this again..... (5, Insightful)

iamhassi (659463) | more than 2 years ago | (#38666670)

More hype to sell the same tripe.

Here's the reasons listed in the article:
--Repeated motion injuries, like using your thumbs to type
--unnatural postures and forces, such as tilting their hands too far inward or outward while tapping or putting force on their wrists while typing.
--Eyestrain, either because the characters and images aren't clear or because the screen is obscured by glare or reflections

Although the article also contradicts itself: "tablets and smartphones almost guarantee such awkward use because they can be accessed almost anywhere and in any position -- most of which involve poor posture."

But doesn't that also mean people can hold the devices in more natural positions, making them far safer than PCs or laptops? Also the same argument could be made that books are dangerous because they can be accessed almost anywhere and in any position.

And that's pretty much the entire article. Nothing to see here, move along.

Re:Not this again..... (2)

icebike (68054) | more than 2 years ago | (#38666788)

But doesn't that also mean people can hold the devices in more natural positions, making them far safer than PCs or laptops? Also the same argument could be made that books are dangerous because they can be accessed almost anywhere and in any position.

Exactly. The remedy is built into the device.

No one is forced to sit in front of a tablet all day typing as was the case with desktop computers. Even those that do find a way to do hours of writing on a tablet have long since given up on the touch screen and have added keyboards. These are casual use devices.

You can walk around with a tablet, you move it when you become uncomfortable, you can easily seek the best lighting angle, and if your eyes bother you, you hold it at a different distance, angle, adjust the brightness, change the font size, wipe the finger prints off the screen. All of this is done naturally.

The article should be touting the tablet as the solution rather than suggesting it is the problem.

Typical /. defensivness (2)

bussdriver (620565) | more than 2 years ago | (#38666922)

So used to defending "new" technology that you can't allow legitimate concerns to be raised?

I get it, I'm surrounded by technologically ignorant people who respond irrationally to the stuff. But it is no reason to become irrationally defensive of the technology-- for those people, it does make sense to not discuss the topic at any depth but one does not have to get down to their level either.

TFA is nothing new and seems so obvious that its hardly worth discussion. As somebody who deals with those "non-issues" and knows older people who suffer daily from them I am glad this was an issue in the 90s because it was when I became motivated enough to take precautions. This stuff can cause seriously miserable conditions later in life (do not get surgery it makes it worse.) Things like this serve a purpose:
A) inform people of the general problem who do not yet know (unless nobody has children there is always a new batch)
B) inform people who know but do not THINK about how touch screens are no different than existing tech (may be worse)

Sure, there is the anti technology types who will twist such information or those who do not properly comprehend it and go around saying "doctors say touch screens are bad for your health." Those people can be so annoying that it provides plenty of motivation for going to an irrational position on the opposite side.

Just because you believe the "disease" is imaginary.... BELIEVE being the key word. Hope you don't have to rediscover the problem with 1st hand proof; although, there would be some justice in having people dismiss your bitching as imaginary.

I'll add this to the list (1)

LordNicholas (2174126) | more than 2 years ago | (#38666490)

Of things to never waste any brainpower worrying about in any way.

first p (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38666494)

damn...

Re:first p (2)

AlienIntelligence (1184493) | more than 2 years ago | (#38666942)

damn...

Well, if it wasn't for your stress injuries from tablet use,
yes you might have been frosty piss.

Maybe this is actionable... call an ambulance chaser!

-AI

Bwahahahahahah. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38666504)

Bwahahahahahah.

Also dangers of door knobs... (1)

Kenja (541830) | more than 2 years ago | (#38666506)

pickles, books, refrigerators and just about anything if you use them too often and too violently.

So what?

Re:Also dangers of door knobs... (1)

ClintJCL (264898) | more than 2 years ago | (#38666572)

Nobody could ever repeat those motions as much as they repeat motions on a device they hold in their hands. Unless you're opening 30 pickle jars a second for 8 hrs a day, it's a disingenuous comparison.

Re:Also dangers of door knobs... (1)

Megahard (1053072) | more than 2 years ago | (#38666614)

I was thinking of problems with pickles other than the jar. The kind that gets you a trip to the emergency room.

Re:Also dangers of door knobs... (1)

Kenja (541830) | more than 2 years ago | (#38666658)

I was thinking of problems with pickles other than the jar. The kind that gets you a trip to the emergency room.

Now expand this line of thinking to include door knobs.

Re:Also dangers of door knobs... (2)

ClintJCL (264898) | more than 2 years ago | (#38666708)

Now, think about the choice of the word "expand". HAHAHA

Breaking news... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38666526)

This just in...the #1 cause for repetitive stress injuries and eyestrain is...living....

Re:Breaking news... (1)

Volante3192 (953645) | more than 2 years ago | (#38666640)

It's also the #1 cause of death. Here we are, wasting our time on heart disease and cancer...

Re:Breaking news... (2)

The Grim Reefer (1162755) | more than 2 years ago | (#38666650)

When I was born my doctor told me that it could cause all kinds of health problems later on.

What about the hidden dangers of Siri? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38666532)

For example, if you talk continuously, you may lose your voice.

Re:What about the hidden dangers of Siri? (2)

pclminion (145572) | more than 2 years ago | (#38666560)

And if you think continuously you may burn out your brain cells, as appears to have happened with this researcher.

Sound the alarm! (1)

wjcofkc (964165) | more than 2 years ago | (#38666542)

If we sounded an alarm for every little thing out there that is bad for us, we would all be wearing noise protection gear to save our poor sensitive little ears from damage. Oh and forbid we strive to adapt to new things. We might evolve! Run for the hills!

Re:Sound the alarm! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38666742)

If we sounded an alarm for every little thing out there that is bad for us, we would all be wearing noise protection gear to save our poor sensitive little ears from damage. Oh and forbid we strive to adapt to new things. We might evolve! Run for the hills!

The Wisdom of Joe Jackson [youtube.com] .

Learned this in the 90s (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38666558)

Anyone remember the first touchscreen fad that died out due to "Gorilla Arm"? Same thing, different decade.

Every time I see a vertical touchscreen advertised as a feature, I cringe a little inside as I imagine trying to use one for an extended period.

My wrist hurts! (5, Informative)

coldsalmon (946941) | more than 2 years ago | (#38666596)

I'm wearing a wrist brace right now because I held my Nook Color one-handed for too long over the course of a couple of weeks. Obviously I can't say for sure that this was the cause of my pain, but it gets worse when when I hold it in one hand only, and better when I use both hands or support it some other way. I wish I had thought of this before I started using the Nook. Yeah it's not a problem of national concern, and the article uses absurdly alarmist rhetoric, but these are real sources of pain and it's always good to have tips on how to avoid pain.

Re:My wrist hurts! (2, Insightful)

medv4380 (1604309) | more than 2 years ago | (#38667006)

You would have had the same injury doing that with a book. This article is clearly written by the radical fringe who won't be happy unless man is back in the forests eating strait from the trees.

Diseases caused by unnatural postures and forces

I Concur, Doctor! (1)

tunapez (1161697) | more than 2 years ago | (#38666600)

My eyesight has been dwindling over the past 3 or 4 years since I got my 1st Tablet. Now I have to wear reading glasses on a string around my neck everywhere I go! I'm thinking a class action is in order. How many more vibrant, enthusiastic 42yo's must go blind before this atrocity is righted????
 
PS: Get off my lawn!

Re:I Concur, Doctor! (1)

Translation Error (1176675) | more than 2 years ago | (#38666694)

My eyesight has been dwindling over the past 3 or 4 years since I got my 1st Tablet. Now I have to wear reading glasses on a string around my neck everywhere I go! I'm thinking a class action is in order. How many more vibrant, enthusiastic 42yo's must go blind before this atrocity is righted????

Absolutely! And we should get the crack legal team that took down the jerks responsible for the Opti-Grab!

Re:I Concur, Doctor! (1)

tunapez (1161697) | more than 2 years ago | (#38667152)

One dollar and...NINE CENTS!

Don't Blink (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38666606)

"Don't blink," the Doctor said about the latest touchscreen technology, "Blink and you're dead. They are fast. Faster than you can believe. Don't turn your back. Don't look away. And don't blink. Good Luck."

When asked if his opinions were a little bit harsh, he replied that the field of research around touchscreens safety is still "a big ball of wibbly wobbly... time-y wimey... stuff."

Re:Don't Blink (1)

desdinova 216 (2000908) | more than 2 years ago | (#38666928)

mod this funny

I can see it now (5, Funny)

pak9rabid (1011935) | more than 2 years ago | (#38666622)

Apple: You're touching it wrong.

Re:I can see it now (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38666798)

That's what she said!

Yeah, it's a danger to my sanity (0)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 2 years ago | (#38666626)

If my goddamned phone touchscreen doesn't stop getting wonky every time the relative humidity gets above "desert" then there's going to be a hidden danger of me throwing it against the fucking wall.

Re:Yeah, it's a danger to my sanity (1)

drummerboybac (1003077) | more than 2 years ago | (#38666872)

What kind of phone does that?

Re:Yeah, it's a danger to my sanity (1)

AlienIntelligence (1184493) | more than 2 years ago | (#38666976)

If my goddamned phone touchscreen doesn't stop getting wonky every time the relative humidity gets above "desert" then there's going to be a hidden danger of me throwing it against the fucking wall.

FWIW, due to the economy, we have lots of homes available
to buy or rent, here in the desert.

lol

-AI

bad posture hurts - news at 11 (0, Offtopic)

rla3rd (596810) | more than 2 years ago | (#38666642)

wft - seriously? how is this even considered news?

I'm sure that.... (1)

mark-t (151149) | more than 2 years ago | (#38666676)

... even when we get to the point that computers can read our minds, and know exactly what we want them to do without interacting with it physically in any way at all, that doctors will still find some way to say how bad they are for us.

Re:I'm sure that.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38666870)

No need, the dangers of direct neural interface have already been charted out. It makes you harder to heal magically and if you take more than 6 'units' of cyberware you either die or have to go through a really awkward ritual that violently binds your soul into your technologically sustained carcass.

(I prefer Shadowrun for all my cyberpunk/transhumanist needs)

One more scare story... (1)

unixisc (2429386) | more than 2 years ago | (#38666706)

... probably from the same people who told us that cellphones cause cancer, gas station explosions yada yada yada

Here come the lawyers (1)

schwit1 (797399) | more than 2 years ago | (#38666732)

This sounds too much like an opening for tort lawyers to start suing manufacturers and employers.

I RTFA.... (1)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 2 years ago | (#38666750)

And all I could see on that page was...

Quack, Quack, Quack.....

Anyone else feel the Quackyness of the "doctors" concerns?

Common Sense (1)

mrjatsun (543322) | more than 2 years ago | (#38666784)

When I got my first smartphone, I noticed my thumb started clicking and got sore when using my smartphone a lot. I changed the way I held it and no more problems.

"Doctor, it hurts when I do this, ..."

Sour grapes? (1)

mrbester (200927) | more than 2 years ago | (#38666790)

Aww, did ickle diddums not get the iPad he wanted for Christmas?

Reminds me of a Carlin joke (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38666816)

A new disease was discovered with no symptoms.

I think he could tell it better.

2.52!

Welcome - new overlords (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38666914)

I for one welcome our new touchscreen health-hazards physician overlords.

real problem but i don't care (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38666946)

if people aren't smart enough to stop positioning their bodies and appendages in a manner that hurts, let the gene pool be rid of them.

Doctor is wrong (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38666982)

sharp, bright displays like the one in Apple's iPhone and Samsung's Galaxy smartphones are thankfully commonplace nowadays.

Thankfully?? The brighter the backlight, the greater the eyestrain. Eink displays are much more ergonomic than TFTs.

I can see the TV headlines now (1)

chiph (523845) | more than 2 years ago | (#38667062)

"Your iPhone could KILL YOU! Tune in for our special report, today at 5:30."

Anecdote X (1)

SomePoorSchmuck (183775) | more than 2 years ago | (#38667164)

I have been typing at a high KPM (sometimes for several hours a day) for 25 years going back to CLI days and using a mouse daily since the spread of the PC GUI. I also have a modest but ongoing interest in playing the piano. I have never had any RSI problems.

Then two years ago I got a touchscreen smartphone and absolutely can trace a very clear rise in vision focal distance issues and recurrent wrist/elbow strain in that time period. Nothing else in my life hobbies, living patterns, or activity levels has changed in the last two years. The vision issues I could perhaps either partially or wholly pass off as the inevitable age-related presbyopia, but the wrist/elbow strain is indepedent of the aging process, entirely unprecedented in my personal medical history, and does in fact decrease markedly if I go for several days not using the phone, even while continuing other potentially implicated activities such as weight training, sports leagues, bike riding, PC keyboarding, driving, and so forth. It was interesting to read a comment above [slashdot.org] . I have experienced the same thing -- which is that sleeping with whichever hand is most affected inserted between pillow and mattress provides significant relief, kind of like the opposite of gout sufferers' extreme sensitivity to the slight pressure of their own bedsheets.

Touchscreen and driving? (1)

drainbramage (588291) | more than 2 years ago | (#38667184)

There is even more to worry about than just RSI.
I've wanted to whack some of those pinheads myself.

Now, I don't want to go off on a rant here but:
Put the damn thing DOWN!
Give it a frickin rest!

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