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Nanocoating Waterproofs Any Gadget

samzenpus posted more than 2 years ago | from the ever-dry-socks dept.

Cellphones 314

An anonymous reader writes "Water has always been the bane of electronics, however American company Liquipel just announced that they have developed a way to completely waterproof any device against the elements. Using a revolutionary process, Liquipel applies a hydrophobic nanocoating to phones, computers, and other devices that completely waterproofs them and protects them against accidental exposure to liquids."

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314 comments

Announcing Waterproof 3D HDTVs! (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38681820)

What? Your TV is only 3D HDTV? It's not WATER PROOF?! Why not? Are you poor? Why haven't you bought one? How else do you plan to entertain under water?

Re:Announcing Waterproof 3D HDTVs! (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38681944)

I read this to my girlfriend because I thought it was funny. Her response? "It would be kind of cool to watch TV underwater. I want one in the shower. Do you know how boring it is to shave your legs?"

Re:Announcing Waterproof 3D HDTVs! (5, Funny)

TheLink (130905) | more than 2 years ago | (#38682174)

Maybe if you helped her shave her legs it would be more interesting. At least the first few times ;).

Re:Announcing Waterproof 3D HDTVs! (5, Funny)

PopeRatzo (965947) | more than 2 years ago | (#38682310)

Maybe if you helped her shave her legs it would be more interesting.

Then she can do his back.

Re:Announcing Waterproof 3D HDTVs! (4, Funny)

logjon (1411219) | more than 2 years ago | (#38682490)

He'll purr like a walrus.

Re:Announcing Waterproof 3D HDTVs! (5, Funny)

Belial6 (794905) | more than 2 years ago | (#38682370)

Yes, in the "There Was Blood EVERYWHERE!!!" kind of way.

Re:Announcing Waterproof 3D HDTVs! (1, Offtopic)

dragonhunter21 (1815102) | more than 2 years ago | (#38682552)

That's the best kind of story!

Re:Announcing Waterproof 3D HDTVs! (-1, Offtopic)

Formalin (1945560) | more than 2 years ago | (#38682234)

You should tell her about wax. It doesn't need to be done anywhere near as often, easy, and similar in cost - probably cheaper. Less boring too

full disclosure: I've never waxed my legs... I've waxed areas which I assume are considerably more painful though, and survived. I'd think legs would be painless, or close to it.

Re:Announcing Waterproof 3D HDTVs! (0, Offtopic)

FatdogHaiku (978357) | more than 2 years ago | (#38682564)

Ahh, waxing... The personal grooming choice that assures no guy will think of a citizen from the largest South American country when he encounters the word "Brazilian".

Re:Announcing Waterproof 3D HDTVs! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38682612)

You should tell her about wax. It doesn't need to be done anywhere near as often, easy, and similar in cost - probably cheaper. Less boring too

full disclosure: I've never waxed my legs... I've waxed areas which I assume are considerably more painful though, and survived. I'd think legs would be painless, or close to it.

Or use an epilator. Lasts just as long as wax and can be done easily yourself.

shower tv (2)

FirephoxRising (2033058) | more than 2 years ago | (#38682246)

my wife likes to use her ipod touch and kindle in the bath, I'm just waiting for the inevitable accident. waterproof gadgets would rock!

Re:shower tv (4, Insightful)

artor3 (1344997) | more than 2 years ago | (#38682306)

At least for the kindle, waterproof gadgets have already been invented.

It's called a zip-loc bag, and it is great for unwinding in the tub.

Re:shower tv (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38682364)

Actually, the ipod touch/iphone works really well in a plastic bag as well. The touch sensor seems to have no problem being behind the extra plastic, which is nice in heavy rain.

Re:shower tv (1)

X0563511 (793323) | more than 2 years ago | (#38682602)

My DX is -JUST- big enough to not fit in one. Sadface.

Re:Announcing Waterproof 3D HDTVs! (4, Funny)

narcc (412956) | more than 2 years ago | (#38682394)

That's the most interesting response I've seen from Siri yet...

what about space age polymers? (1)

cultiv8 (1660093) | more than 2 years ago | (#38681846)

they're such hydrophobes.

Re:what about space age polymers? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38682264)

Car Wax. The new hydrophobic nanocoating.

speak for yourselves.... (4, Interesting)

Shakrai (717556) | more than 2 years ago | (#38681862)

At one point we’ve all done it – spilt a drink over a laptop, gotten our tablets soaked in the rain, or even dropped our phone in the toilet.

I've never done any of those things with my expensive tools/toys. It baffles me how badly people treat expensive and hard to replace tools. It's not limited to technology either; a friend of mine has a collection of rusted saws, screwdrivers and other tools because he's too lazy to bring them in out of the rain after a big home improvement project. Pathetic.

Re:speak for yourselves.... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38681922)

Yea- now if they made a break-proof coating! I'm sold. I've dropped my laptop numerous times in a water-free nevironment only the break the DC jack on the laptop every time. It has been years.... but...... three or four times.

Re:speak for yourselves.... (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38682162)

There's a solution to that already, It's called a macbook.

Re:speak for yourselves.... (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38682326)

There's a better solution to that already. It's called being careful with your expensive shit.

Re:speak for yourselves.... (3, Funny)

mug funky (910186) | more than 2 years ago | (#38682430)

who needs a solution that creates more problems?

(hyperbole aside... seriously, buying new software and learning a new platform just to get that cool magnetic DC plug that Apple will sue anyone else who uses it over?)

Re:speak for yourselves.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38681966)

We of the /. community are duly impressed with your complete and utter perfection.

CAPTCHA: excelled.

Re:speak for yourselves.... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38681982)

Slashdot is full of lazy fat fucks. That's just the truth of the matter.
 
Of course, these fat lazy fucks don't do home improvement. They're just worried about dropping their portable games system in the tub or in the toilet.

Re:speak for yourselves.... (3, Interesting)

sandytaru (1158959) | more than 2 years ago | (#38682030)

I am a destroyer of keyboards. So I've learned simply to not buy expensive keyboards. Everything else, yeah, I try to treat gently, from my beloved Honda which is about to tick over 200K miles, to my late grandfather's violin 110 year old violin. Even my $80 mouse gets more care and attention and caution than my keyboard, though.

My dilemma is this: If I get an expensive heavy duty mechanical keyboard, I will somehow managed to drop a gallon of paint on it no matter how careful I am. So I just use $20 el cheapo Microsoft Curve keyboards, which invariably wear out after a year because I hammer it so bad.

Re:speak for yourselves.... (4, Insightful)

EvanED (569694) | more than 2 years ago | (#38682534)

I've killed two separate MS Natural 4000s, one about 30 minutes after getting it. It's very rare that I'll spill, but man, it seems like just a little splash has a high probability of rendering it useless.

Personally though, the extra comfort of a comfortable-to-use keyboard is worth an occasional fairly-expensive (at least for a grad student) replacement. I never understand people who spend like $1500 for an awesome gaming rig or something and then get a cheapass keyboard, which is one of the couple components you actually use. But I might just be overly sensitive or something; I do pay a lot of attention to arm ergonomics as fallout from wrist problems many years back.

Re:speak for yourselves.... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38682556)

I am a destroyer of keyboards. So I've learned simply to not buy expensive keyboards. Everything else, yeah, I try to treat gently, from my beloved Honda which is about to tick over 200K miles, to my late grandfather's violin 110 year old violin. Even my $80 mouse gets more care and attention and caution than my keyboard, though. My dilemma is this: If I get an expensive heavy duty mechanical keyboard, I will somehow managed to drop a gallon of paint on it no matter how careful I am. So I just use $20 el cheapo Microsoft Curve keyboards, which invariably wear out after a year because I hammer it so bad.

Maybe you just suck. Didja think of that?!

Re:speak for yourselves.... (0)

X0563511 (793323) | more than 2 years ago | (#38682610)

... to my late grandfather's violin 110 year old violin.

Wow! His violin has a violin? How old is this property-owning property?

Re:speak for yourselves.... (3, Funny)

Ryanrule (1657199) | more than 2 years ago | (#38682058)

I can see dropping a phone in the toilet. Of course you must then recognize that every phone you see has been used while someone wiped their arse.

Re:speak for yourselves.... (2)

LongearedBat (1665481) | more than 2 years ago | (#38682166)

I thought phone screens are too small for porn.

Re:speak for yourselves.... (2)

EdIII (1114411) | more than 2 years ago | (#38682666)

You just squint your eyes. When there is a will there is a way.......

It may have gone too far when you are standing up on a chair, leg over on the dresser, holding your phone up desperately trying to get signal in a hotel room in the middle of nowhere to look at Internet porn.

Cirque Du Soleil had nothing on me that day.......

Re:speak for yourselves.... (2)

dissy (172727) | more than 2 years ago | (#38682450)

Oblg.: http://www.crazywebsite.com/Website-Clipart-Pictures-Videos/Funny-People/Girl-Laptop-Bathroom-1LG.jpg [crazywebsite.com]

Perhaps she is chatting on IRC, the Internet Relay Crap
Or maybe paying for an ebay order with PeePal
That's one heck of a core dump

Just imagine the poor guy who has fore play with her. The packet route goes from bathroom floor - laptop - desk - her lap - his face - him realizing what he really actually ate - back to bathroom floor.
Isn't the round-trip of life beautiful?

Re:speak for yourselves.... (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38682092)

Speak for yourself. My wife managed to drop her LG phone in the toilet. She got it out quickly (a mano) and I suggested the rice treatment for 24 h, and it still works fine. And she still sucks a mean dick. It was a close call, though. I'm all in favor of this technology...

Re:speak for yourselves.... (1)

GodfatherofSoul (174979) | more than 2 years ago | (#38682118)

They're called "accidents" Mr. Douchbag

Re:speak for yourselves.... (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38682388)

And yet, somehow they don't happen to everybody.

Re:speak for yourselves.... (2)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 2 years ago | (#38682536)

Yes, they do.

Re:speak for yourselves.... (2)

Ethanol-fueled (1125189) | more than 2 years ago | (#38682142)

or even dropped our phone in the toilet.

Gotta talk while pissin.' Yes, I've seen that happen. Yank it out, pull the battery and sim, clean them with alcohol if handy, wait in anxiety while they dry.

You wouldn't catch me leaving my TEK 2246 out in the rain, but my former boss who owned a construction company, left his portable corded Skilsaw rotary with a carbide rebar-cutting blade out in the rain. Man, that was one pissed-off corner-cutter.

Re:speak for yourselves.... (1)

hldn (1085833) | more than 2 years ago | (#38682158)

i recently spilt some water on my keyboard and the left ctrl key died. i took it apart and examined it closely, but i couldnt see where the problem was. i ended up having to use software (ctrl2cap) to switch the function of it with the capslock key. of course, now i have no capslock key :/

anyway, shit happens. it'll happen to you too one day.

Re:speak for yourselves.... (1)

msuarezalvarez (667058) | more than 2 years ago | (#38682252)

Hmm, so you are the guy that uses the capslock key for something?!

Re:speak for yourselves.... (1)

omglolbah (731566) | more than 2 years ago | (#38682406)

* One of our customers expects all text on drawings to be in all caps for clarity.
* Variables have to be typed in all caps for historical reasons.. (all variables are that way already and the codebase is much too big to refactor efficiently.. mostly because there are no automatic tools available and the code is stored in binary files linked to an ancient database)

Just two usage cases for the caps lock ;)

Re:speak for yourselves.... (1)

Max Littlemore (1001285) | more than 2 years ago | (#38682548)

* Variables have to be typed in all caps for historical reasons..

Whenever I use all caps for variables (or constants) I tend to have underscores in them and rarely use digits. WHAT IS WRONG WITH A FREAKING SHIFT LOCK!?!?!

Whew. Sorry, but whoever thought a caps lock was an improvement over shift lock was an idiot.

Re:speak for yourselves.... (1)

drumlight (1244276) | more than 2 years ago | (#38682452)

I'm Canadian and use it for postal codes. They don't look right in lower case, I can't coordinate my fingers quite well enough and the Post Office gets confused by L!C@H7

Re:speak for yourselves.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38682284)

"of course, now i have no capslock key :/"

so its WIN-WIN ?

Re:speak for yourselves.... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38682262)

Accidents happen. Accidentally washing your phone or watch in the washing machine. Dropping your phone overboard while on a boat, or you yourself falling overboard, etc. Getting drenched in the rain when caught out. If you live and do anything at all it happens.

With that said, I seriously doubt this "waterproofs" your device. I'm sure at trivial depths (maybe as little as 5 feet) the particles aren't going to stop shit from entering your electronics. I know for sure it wouldn't work in soapy water (like the washing machine) because I'm guessing the nanoparticles rely on the surface tension of water to work.

Re:speak for yourselves.... (1)

Omnifarious (11933) | more than 2 years ago | (#38682348)

Remind me to never be your friend. How do you live with your own mistakes, or don't you ever make any?

Re:speak for yourselves.... (2)

Shoten (260439) | more than 2 years ago | (#38682392)

I've had a douchebag in the seat next to me on a plane make a spastic grab for his drink while reaching over me...and my laptop. Not all exposure to water is defined by the owner of the damaged item being the one who is pathetic, and none of the times my electronics got wet had to do with my negligence. I've also been caught in a scirrocco in Italy while walking back home, knocked off the side of a dock by a person turning with an oar tucked stupidly under their armpit...the ways in which water and other liquids can get to our electronics are many. Let's face it; water covers most of the planet, and even falls from the sky on regular occasions...it ain't exactly hard to get exposed to.

Re:speak for yourselves.... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38682604)

I've had a douchebag in the seat next to me on a plane make a spastic grab for his drink while reaching over me...and my laptop. Not all exposure to water is defined by the owner

and

I've also been caught in a scirrocco in Italy while walking back home, knocked off the side of a dock by a person turning with an oar tucked stupidly under their armpit

The ass-beating: old-fashioned, low-tech, and highly effective. Tends to discourage the kind of behavior you're talking about. Despite what naive people would think, it does not actually lead to more people receiving an ass-beating. No, mysteriously to those types and obvious to everyone else, it leads to people being more careful and fewer ass-beatings overall.

Re:speak for yourselves.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38682576)

Saws and screwdrivers are technology.

I call slashvertizing (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38681864)

The link is from a questionably "objective" source that has no real info on how (or if) it works. But by all means mail them your gadgets! They were nominated for an award you've never heard of!

Re:I call slashvertizing (3, Informative)

swalve (1980968) | more than 2 years ago | (#38682036)

I have to agree. If only because it seems impossible. How much of a gap can it bridge? Won't a coating break the buttons' electrical contacts? How does it protect the battery?

Re:I call slashvertizing (2)

cheater512 (783349) | more than 2 years ago | (#38682152)

The interesting part is they took the battery cover off underwater.

Now usually on most phones I've seen, the battery connects via bare copper. How can it still actually function, without allowing water to short circuit it?
Ditto for headphone jack. Either it covers the connection or it lets water in.

Re:I call slashvertizing (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38682294)

Pure water is actually a reasonable insulator. You can generally immerse electronics in pure water, then dry it off and it will work, if it stopped working at all. I'll bet all their amazing immersion demos are being done with deionised water

Water with ions in it, such as from salt or contamination, is conductive and will corrode. I'd like to see them dunk a "waterproofed" phone into seawater.

Re:I call slashvertizing (1)

artor3 (1344997) | more than 2 years ago | (#38682356)

My guess is that the video used distilled water, which is highly resistive. Water only conducts if it contains impurities.

For the actual product, I would expect them to apply the coating with the battery already in, and you simply can't take it out without needing to reapply the coating.

Re:I call slashvertizing (1)

TooMuchToDo (882796) | more than 2 years ago | (#38682632)

Or the copper contacts have small plastic lips/edges on the battery/phone contacts, so they're watertight enough when the battery is seated (held in with the battery tension).

Re:I call slashvertizing (1)

Belial6 (794905) | more than 2 years ago | (#38682456)

I thought that too. I would suspect that it is thin enough that it doesn't prevent the flow of electrons between the copper contacts, but pushes the water away enough to prevent the electrons from flowing across them. Amazing yes, but it doesn't seem impossible.

Re:I call slashvertizing (1)

X0563511 (793323) | more than 2 years ago | (#38682634)

Does this coating prevent conduction, or is it merely a method to avoid the corrosion water causes? That's the real problem - shorts are bad, yes - but that's usually not what kills a gadget.

Re:I call slashvertizing (1)

socialleech (1696888) | more than 2 years ago | (#38682398)

Imagine the liquid cooling possibilities of computers that couldn't be injured by submerging them!

Didn't I see someone comment about dolphins flying water filled spaceships a couple days ago here? We should let them know we've solved one problem!

Re:I call slashvertizing (1)

adolf (21054) | more than 2 years ago | (#38682444)

Imagine the liquid cooling possibilities of computers that couldn't be injured by submerging them!

Already works: Just find a suitable container, fill it with mineral oil, and submerge the electronics in it.

Re:I call slashvertizing (1)

X0563511 (793323) | more than 2 years ago | (#38682644)

... can be tricky, because mineral oil and air do not have the same dielectric constant.

Re:I call slashvertizing (1)

Gnaget (1043408) | more than 2 years ago | (#38682106)

Agreed. After a perusal of their site, I wouldn't be an early adopter of this. They specifically tell you in their demonstration video not to try it at home, so it sounds like a modern version of the Emperor's new clothes.

Meh. (2)

Ethanol-fueled (1125189) | more than 2 years ago | (#38681872)

Old News. I've been playing acoustic and electric guitar with Elixir [elixirstrings.com] strings for almost a decade, with customer satisfaction. Any nerd considering learning guitar should also, as they are resistant to Chee-toe residue.

Gripe: can you guys find a way to coat the upper B and E strings?

Re:Meh. (1)

Max Littlemore (1001285) | more than 2 years ago | (#38682580)

I've found them to start off great, but they deteriorate after a while and feel kinda yuck. I think bang for buck standard phosphor bronze is about as good.

What I want to know is... (5, Insightful)

rsilvergun (571051) | more than 2 years ago | (#38681900)

why is my $15 Walgreens watch waterproof to a depth of 20 meters, but if I sneeze on my $400 Android / iPhone it's ruined and I voided the warranty?

Re:What I want to know is... (5, Insightful)

QuasiSteve (2042606) | more than 2 years ago | (#38682088)

I think you'd have to do a little more than sneeze on it - but I am well aware of stories in the past where e.g. sporters who sweated a little (much) got told by the service center that the humidity indicators in their iPod (or similar) indicated the device got wet and thus the warranty was void.

But just to address your specific example - your $15 Walgreens watch probably has little to no openings and whatever interface controls are there are very easy to make waterproof. Compare to the many slots and compartments on a typical smartphone which often are required to be easily user-accessible. You wouldn't want to have to unscrew the back of your smartphone every time you'd just want to recharge it (if it ran for 2 years on a few button cells like your watch, then that wouldn't be much of an issue).

But, more importantly, your $15 Walgreens watch is $15. If they actually got a claim from somebody with valid proof that they only dove to 19.95m and not over 20.00m, sending out a new $15 Walgreens watch is a heck of a lot cheaper than going over that paperwork and trying to tell you that you must be mistaken.
For $400+ devices, on the other hand, it's a lot cheaper to open it up, point at the humidity tags, and say "sucks to be you".

Re:What I want to know is... (5, Insightful)

thePig (964303) | more than 2 years ago | (#38682514)

In that case, the best and cheapest option is to nano-coat the humidity tag.
No problems with replacement then ...

Re:What I want to know is... (1)

Belial6 (794905) | more than 2 years ago | (#38682524)

It has been shown that the humidity detectors can indicate the device got wet just from being used in normal operating environments.

Re:What I want to know is... (1)

EvanED (569694) | more than 2 years ago | (#38682566)

I think you'd have to do a little more than sneeze on it - but I am well aware of stories in the past where e.g. sporters who sweated a little (much) got told by the service center that the humidity indicators in their iPod (or similar) indicated the device got wet and thus the warranty was void.

Heck, there was a story on here a while back about how just bringing in your phone from the cold was enough to trip the humidity sensor from small amounts of condensation. Personally, I think that it's BS that's legal, but whatever, it is.

Re:What I want to know is... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38682116)

Because only a fool would buy replace a crappy cheap watch with another just like it...

Re:What I want to know is... (4, Insightful)

ScentCone (795499) | more than 2 years ago | (#38682134)

why is my $15 Walgreens watch waterproof to a depth of 20 meters, but if I sneeze on my $400 Android / iPhone it's ruined and I voided the warranty?

A couple of thoughts, here.

1) How do the microphone, micro SD slot, speakers, and charging/data port on your watch work after you've taken it down to 20 meters?

2) Has it ever occured to you that the makers and retailers of your $15 watch are simply banking (literally) on the fact that essentially nobody will every submit that cheap watch to 20 meters of water? And if someone does do so, and the watch inevitably fails, what percentage of that already tiny percentage are going to actually bother to pursue warranty service/replacement on something that costs less than a decent pizza? They could simply replace that costs-them-$3 watch every time all three people in that group take a shower, and they'll still make more money than they would have by not saying "Waterproof to 20 meters!" on the packaging and not having to service such claims.

Re:What I want to know is... (1)

TubeSteak (669689) | more than 2 years ago | (#38682172)

why is my $15 Walgreens watch waterproof to a depth of 20 meters, but if I sneeze on my $400 Android / iPhone it's ruined and I voided the warranty?

Your $15 Walgreens watch has rubber seals on the backplate and around any buttons/knobs.
Your $400 Android / iPhone doesn't. If it did, the phone would be a lot bulkier.

Looking at their list of "approved devices" [liquipel.com] , I'm wondering how the nanocoating interacts with user removable batteries.

Re:What I want to know is... (1)

gstrickler (920733) | more than 2 years ago | (#38682242)

Because no tech wants to touch it after you've sneezed on it.

Re:What I want to know is... (1)

Greyfox (87712) | more than 2 years ago | (#38682460)

Actually if you live in someplace moist, like Mississippi, you've probably already voided the warranty with the local ambient humidity.

Nanocoatings Are Going Mainstream (5, Interesting)

againsttheodds (2534156) | more than 2 years ago | (#38681920)

It is no doubt that nanocoatings are going mainstream what with the latest solar paint that can harness the sun http://www.infobarrel.com/Solar_Nanopaint_-_Paint_With_Quantum_Dot_Solar_Cells [infobarrel.com] and coatings for jets and other aircraft to provide excellent aerodynamic properties. Then you have nanocoatings for engines and http://againsttheodds.hubpages.com/hub/Nanodiamond-Lubricants-And-Lubrication-Particles [hubpages.com] and countless other applications on the horizon. It is an exciting time and there is still plenty of room at the bottom.

Re:Nanocoatings Are Going Mainstream (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38682276)

Comments like this are why I read Slashdot.

Hydrophobic nanocoatings... (5, Funny)

Captain Sarcastic (109765) | more than 2 years ago | (#38681948)

... are just the thing for rabid technophiles!

Re:Hydrophobic nanocoatings... (1)

swalve (1980968) | more than 2 years ago | (#38681996)

A work of art. Well done, madam.

Pretty cool, I must admit (1)

Joshua Fan (1733100) | more than 2 years ago | (#38682006)

I was convinced when they took off the back cover of the HTC Thunderbolt and resubmerged it. It would be nice if phones started being shipped with this preapplied. Didn't DuPont already make hydrophobic coating for pants?

Waterproof? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38682016)

Water resistant, yes.
 
Water proof, no. Try dropping your treated item in 10+ feet of water and get back to me if it's insides don't need drying out. Then I'll be impressed.

Retro stuff (1)

kurt555gs (309278) | more than 2 years ago | (#38682046)

I went straight to Ziebart!

Re:Retro stuff (3, Funny)

whovian (107062) | more than 2 years ago | (#38682146)

I went straight to Ziebart!

No, its "Zie Bart, Zie"

Legit! (1)

ryanw (131814) | more than 2 years ago | (#38682056)

My friend knows these guys and had his iPhone done. I didn't believe it, but it's legit.

Skin Moisture (2)

yanom (2512780) | more than 2 years ago | (#38682064)

I'm curious how this will react with the moisture in our skin as we tap away on said gadgets.

Caution: (0)

Brian Feldman (350) | more than 2 years ago | (#38682084)

Side-effects may include instant death.

Am I the only one? (1)

Tarpan Horses (2076166) | more than 2 years ago | (#38682190)

That thinks this is actually kinda awesome? Sure it's completely geekish and totally limited in the potential buyers. But I can't help look at this and think that it is very neat. It's not nearly effective enough for me to do go through with it, but it is still a very slick approach to a neat step in the right direction. I think if I could walk in and get it done without losing my device during shipping + paying the shipping costs of sending it from Canada I would give it a lot more thought. The price doesn't even seem all that bad.

I'm not an electrician, but... (2)

flibbidyfloo (451053) | more than 2 years ago | (#38682258)

How could you coat the interior of a microSD card slot that's covered with a loose-fitting cover and make it waterproof? If the nano-coating doesn't conduct electricity then any card you insert won't make contact with the contacts. If it does conduct, then it's useless as a waterproofing seal over electronics. The same would seem to hold true for any earphone plug or charging port, right?

Re:I'm not an electrician, but... (4, Informative)

JakartaDean (834076) | more than 2 years ago | (#38682434)

How could you coat the interior of a microSD card slot that's covered with a loose-fitting cover and make it waterproof? If the nano-coating doesn't conduct electricity then any card you insert won't make contact with the contacts. If it does conduct, then it's useless as a waterproofing seal over electronics. The same would seem to hold true for any earphone plug or charging port, right?

I don't know how it works for sure, but I imagine its just surface tension. The coating doesn't physically close the slot, it coats the outside of the slot with a film that repels water. Water doesn't go into very small places at routine pressure -- the raindrop-size drops you encounter all the time are its least-energy state, the "natural" curvature of water drops. The coating keeps water far enough away so this curvature radius doesn't contact the inside of the slot.

Re:I'm not an electrician, but... (3, Insightful)

Solandri (704621) | more than 2 years ago | (#38682646)

Not only conductivity, but how does the coating hold up under the friction of plugging in the charger every day? If you peek at the metal contacts of a USB cable with a flashlight, I'll bet they have spots worn into them from being plugged in. I doubt any coating could survive that, and the parts which suffer the most wear are also the parts that need waterproofing the most.

Why did I listen (1)

Intoblivion (1331485) | more than 2 years ago | (#38682278)

When they told me hydrophillic was the next big thing!? Well, these things are cyclical I suppose...

Re:Why did I listen (1)

Captain Sarcastic (109765) | more than 2 years ago | (#38682300)

...Well, these things are cyclical I suppose...

Well, this was cyclic, but then it wasn't for a while....

Recoating after battery swap? (2)

nefus (952656) | more than 2 years ago | (#38682324)

Yea but do you have to recoat your phone after taking the back off and reseating or replacing the battery? I have to reseat my cell phone all the time because it gets so dang laggy, I'd hate to have to recoat my phone with this stuff every time.

Re:Recoating after battery swap? (1)

ryanw (131814) | more than 2 years ago | (#38682622)

Maybe coat all your batteries independently and the device without the battery in .... that would solve that I would imagine. Good question.

Crap it still works after dropping it in the loo (1)

elmetatron (206764) | more than 2 years ago | (#38682350)

I guess this will eliminate employees "upgrading" their company crackberries by dropping them in the toilet.

Re:Crap it still works after dropping it in the lo (1)

ryanw (131814) | more than 2 years ago | (#38682626)

I guess this will eliminate employees "upgrading" their company crackberries by dropping them in the toilet.

Yah, that could make for a problem buying used phones on ebay.... you'd never know why someone is selling a "perfectly good and working phone" for a discount.

How It's Made (1)

dead_user (1989356) | more than 2 years ago | (#38682352)

Why did that video feel so much like "How It's Made" on Discovery?

Waterproof? How about salt-water or soda-proof? (2)

Omnifarious (11933) | more than 2 years ago | (#38682358)

There are many more liquids in the world than water. How does this coating stand up to something as corrosive as salt water or Coke?

So Basically... (1)

Volntyr (1620539) | more than 2 years ago | (#38682378)

The only two differences between this product and NeverWet are 1. This product is available now (sort of) while we have to wait a few months for the latter and 2. You have to send in your gadget to Liquipel HQ? Sorry, I would rather wait for the stuff to come out to the market than to trust sending my electronics somewhere to be coated.

not revolutionary (4, Informative)

ridgecritter (934252) | more than 2 years ago | (#38682400)

What I've read in the media of this process suggests that it's parylene. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parylene [wikipedia.org]

If so, it's not revolutionary, but a good application of an old coating technology. When I get my iPhone 5, I'll probably send it to these guys for coating.

Re:not revolutionary (1)

az1324 (458137) | more than 2 years ago | (#38682618)

Yep probably CVD Parylene treatment like Golden Shellback aka ZAGG HzO.

New or old it sounds interesting- (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38682568)

And I can think of many uses besides cheap stuff like cell phones and laptops
.
I have a decent chunk of change invested in digital cameras and very often do get caught out in rainy weather.
If this stuff will work on a DSLR I have a few I'll be sending in.
Hopefully they'll do some testing soon and verify that Nikon DSLRs can be done.

Hydrophobic? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38682662)

We need oleophobic coating to eliminate the fingerprint smudges on the glass of a smartphone.

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