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Programming Prodigy Arfa Karim Passes Away At 16

samzenpus posted more than 2 years ago | from the rest-in-peace dept.

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quantr writes "Arfa Karim, child prodigy, youngest certified Microsoft Professional in the world and winner of the president’s Pride of Performance, breathed her last breath on Saturday night at the Combined Military Hospital in Lahore. Arfa had an epileptic attack on December 22 and had been in a coma since."

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I eat (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38707978)

poop.

Re:I eat (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38708078)

Good. Then you know your next move. Die.

Software Development (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38707990)

Women make lousy software developers anyway.

Certified Microsoft Professional (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38707992)

That doesn't sounds like something to be proud of.

Re:Certified Microsoft Professional (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38708016)

That doesn't sounds like something to be proud of.

dumbass comment. u probably work at McDonalds

Re:Certified Microsoft Professional (-1, Offtopic)

Joe_Dragon (2206452) | more than 2 years ago | (#38708068)

Well at the basic level Certified just means you can pass the test. Alot of college is the same way.

Now if there was some stuff based on real work and more of a on the job testing / training then it's more.

But in the past some of the Certified Microsoft Professionals where people who are good at taking tests and yet don't have a idea on how to work with systems.

Re:Certified Microsoft Professional (4, Insightful)

IANAAC (692242) | more than 2 years ago | (#38708144)

Well at the basic level Certified just means you can pass the test.

Do you know how old she was when she passed it? She was 9.

You may not be impressed by that fact, but I am.

Re:Certified Microsoft Professional (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38708208)

Microsoft certification: even a 9 year old can do it.

Re:Certified Microsoft Professional (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38708366)

Microsoft Certification: Harmful for Children

Re:Certified Microsoft Professional (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38708292)

Truly, it's not that impressive. I was programming at that age, and probably could have got through such a thing (pulled out of my ass - I don't know what you have to do for it, but I'm guessing it's not going to be hell). I'm not saying it'd be easy, but I don't think it makes you a prodigy - again, not saying that she wasn't, but it was poor proof of it.

Either way, it's a shame she is dead.

Re:Certified Microsoft Professional (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38708370)

Truly, you were watching transformers at age 9, not programming. And your head is what needs to be pulled out of your ass. Obviously, you have no social skills and probably only have about 4 friends, which is why you made the comments you did. A young person died at an early age and this is what you have to say. Maybe, if we are lucky we will be reading about your demise on /. tomorrow.

Re:Certified Microsoft Professional (-1)

hedwards (940851) | more than 2 years ago | (#38708314)

You make it sound like she was the only one that could have passed that test at age 9. I had a friend who at age 9 had all the knowledge necessary, but didn't get the cert. The main reason being that was in the '80s and I'm not even sure that the cert existed at the time. Personally, I could have passed it easily by age 11, but mostly because that's largely because up until then the only computers I had access to were Apples.

And he was hardly the only one at that point who could have done it, from what I understand his level of knowledge was fairly common in Korea at that time.

Re:Certified Microsoft Professional (-1, Flamebait)

Frosty Piss (770223) | more than 2 years ago | (#38708320)

Do you know how old she was when she passed it? She was 9.

Test taking skills, especially the kind of test we are talking about here, are not an indication of being a "prodigy" - at any age.

In this case, it's probably more a case of her parents forcing her to run through flash cards 8 hours a day until she could regurgitate canned "knowledge" to pass a fairly basic "certification" test that most of you whiners would be poo-pooing in any other circumstance.

Get a grip, folks.

Re:Certified Microsoft Professional (4, Interesting)

IANAAC (692242) | more than 2 years ago | (#38708404)

Get a grip, folks.

I'm not a programmer, but I am pretty good at my chosen profession. I know without a doubt that I couldn't have passed any sort of "certification" exam at that age, whether it was related to my profession or not.

I'm pretty sure I've got a grip.

Just sayin'.

Re:Certified Microsoft Professional (-1, Offtopic)

tyrione (134248) | more than 2 years ago | (#38708378)

Well at the basic level Certified just means you can pass the test.

Do you know how old she was when she passed it? She was 9.

You may not be impressed by that fact, but I am.

Mozart was composing single draft sonatas at an earlier age. What's your point?

Re:Certified Microsoft Professional (3, Insightful)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 2 years ago | (#38708394)

Indeed. The MCE tests are pretty easy for an adult. Passing one as a teenager displays a somewhat above-average level of competence. Passing one when your age is still in single digits is very impressive.

Re:Certified Microsoft Professional (5, Insightful)

tyrione (134248) | more than 2 years ago | (#38708402)

Well at the basic level Certified just means you can pass the test.

Do you know how old she was when she passed it? She was 9.

You may not be impressed by that fact, but I am.

The tragedy is that she was a young girl in the prime of life and seeing her life taken too soon, not because she was labeled a Microsoft Certified recipient and thus labeled a child prodigy for doing so.

Re:Certified Microsoft Professional (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38708166)

Seriously? Getting certified at age 9 does not qualify enough to be appreciated? You cannot even spell "were" and "a lot" at this age and you're pointing fingers at a dead legend?

Rest in peace (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38707994)

This is a better fate than being known as a certified Microsoft Professional.

Tag her and bag her (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38707996)

Dead at 16 of a treatable disorder?

Her genes would've contributed little to the world, what good is brilliance if it shines so briefly?

Re:Tag her and bag her (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38708222)

Yes because the world needs more rote learning genes. Seriously, thats all India and China value, plenty of other rote learning "prodigies".

Stress ? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38707998)

Since it was an epileptic seizure could it have been caused by stress ? I doubt a corporate environment is a good place for a kid to grow up...

Re:Stress ? (0)

nurb432 (527695) | more than 2 years ago | (#38708082)

Doubt it was stress alone. I bet her brain was wired so differently that something like this was bound to happen.

Taliban Rumoured To Be Behind It (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38708000)

Oh well, it could have been a bus, or IED, or who knows what. But Taliban? No where put Pakistan. Even India is 10x safer for womwn.

Reading the early comments... (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38708004)

...it must be asshole day at /.

Re:Reading the early comments... (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38708070)

...it must be asshole day at /.

+1

Early comments are disgusting and bring shame to /.
RIP Arfa.

Re:Reading the early comments... (2, Interesting)

bonch (38532) | more than 2 years ago | (#38708174)

That's every day. And they get modded up, every time. The moderation system is broken and desperately needs to be replaced with a Reddit-like system where everyone can vote.

Re:Reading the early comments... (3, Insightful)

Ethanol-fueled (1125189) | more than 2 years ago | (#38708270)

You should know more than anybody else here that controversy grabs eyeballs, illicits emotional response, and provokes people into action.

People have the choice to browse at a high threshold so they don't even see offensive comments. This may come as a surprise to you, but perhaps a large number of Slashdot readers enjoy browsing at -1. There is a reason for that, but you'd best not think about it too hard - you might have a nervous breakdown.

Re:Reading the early comments... (-1, Offtopic)

bipbop (1144919) | more than 2 years ago | (#38708274)

Hahahahaha.

No.

Re:Reading the early comments... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38708304)

Yes, because on Reddit, only the most useful comments and articles float to the top. ...

Hahahaa, wait, what site are we talking about?

Re:Reading the early comments... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38708372)

Every day is asshole day at /. Every fucking day.

The first four comments are disgusting. (5, Insightful)

forkfail (228161) | more than 2 years ago | (#38708006)

Seriously, folks - what the hell is wrong with you?

A young woman of tremendous promise and an incredibly positive outlook on life dies far before her time, and this is what you have to say?

Some really sick folks. First time in a long time that I've actually been embarrassed of the folks here at /., despite some seriously differing opinions.

Re:The first four comments are disgusting. (5, Informative)

Canazza (1428553) | more than 2 years ago | (#38708104)

I concur. While many of us may not consider being an MCP 'worth' of anything, it's still something above and beyond what those arseholes who posted above could ever achieve, even at 39 rather than 9 (yes, thats how old she was when she got MCP), she even got certified to FLY at age 10.
This is someone who was gifted at something. Yes, I'd call myself jealous of her talent, but that's no excuse to bad mouth anyone. Dead or not.

Re:The first four comments are disgusting. (5, Insightful)

beadfulthings (975812) | more than 2 years ago | (#38708368)

Thank you. It took amazing intelligence and self-discipline for her to achieve the certification at so young an age. She was apparently also a promising programmer. That's especially true if you consider where she lived--surrounded by a culture where young girls are not normally valued for their intellectual gifts. Her death is doubly tragic--not only has a promising young life been extinguished, but a pattern and role model for other struggling girls has been lost. Her family deserves a lot of credit for encouraging her gifts and talents, and they also deserve our profound and deepest sympathy for their loss.

Re:The first four comments are disgusting. (5, Interesting)

Ethanol-fueled (1125189) | more than 2 years ago | (#38708118)

Dark humor is a coping mechanism for dealing with the nasty, brutish, and short nature of life. I understand this because I've lost somebody close to me.

Dostoevsky understands this too, because he lost his beloved youngest son to epilepsy, and if you've read his work it's not about unicorns shitting rainbows and roses.

Finally, a joke - what do you do when an epileptic falls into your swimming pool? Throw in some detergent and your dirty laundry.

Re:The first four comments are disgusting. (5, Insightful)

Beelzebud (1361137) | more than 2 years ago | (#38708148)

Those posts up there do not strike me as "dark humor used as a coping mechanism", from grieving people. It seems more like the work of a bunch of asshole trolls who hide behind the AC label.

Re:The first four comments are disgusting. (4, Funny)

0100010001010011 (652467) | more than 2 years ago | (#38708396)

My mom was trying to organize all 15+ grandchildren for a photo at my Grandmother's funeral. It's probably the first time we've all been together in a long time:

Come on guys, get together, Grandma's only going to die once.

Re:The first four comments are disgusting. (0, Troll)

cheekyjohnson (1873388) | more than 2 years ago | (#38708126)

Your comment is highly offensive to me. Suggesting that there is something wrong with other people... what is wrong with you?

Re:The first four comments are disgusting. (-1, Flamebait)

phantomfive (622387) | more than 2 years ago | (#38708146)

Apparently her parents had a fork-fail. (yes, that is the worst, cruelest, and meanest joke ever. I am a horrible human).

Re:The first four comments are disgusting. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38708398)

your joke was followed by an unnecessarily long and dishonest confession.

it was also the obvious one that everyone else kept to themselves, but you decided to say it aloud.

Re:The first four comments are disgusting. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38708154)

Meh, everybody dies. You think I should care about some little girl who had maybe some tech skills, and died young?

Well, I think *you* should care about the hundreds of women raped in the last 24 hours, or the ones subjected to genital mutiliation by their own mothers, or the female infants killed at birth in China.

Fuck you, you sanctimonious twit.

Re:The first four comments are disgusting. (-1, Flamebait)

Beelzebud (1361137) | more than 2 years ago | (#38708160)

Everybody does die. Why haven't you?

Re:The first four comments are disgusting. (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38708248)

You think I should care about some little girl who had maybe some tech skills, and died young?

Well, I think *you* should care about the hundreds of women raped in the last 24 hours, or the ones subjected to genital mutiliation by their own mothers, or the female infants killed at birth in China.

I did not realize that I could only pick one topic to care about. Thought I could pick both. Silly me.

Re:The first four comments are disgusting? (1, Insightful)

singingjim1 (1070652) | more than 2 years ago | (#38708168)

People have to die. Sad fact. Don't take it so hard. I bet about a million other people died the same day. Are you mourning for them? Lighten up, Francis.

Re:The first four comments are disgusting? (1)

Beelzebud (1361137) | more than 2 years ago | (#38708206)

So in other words, no human life has value, and we should just shrug our shoulders and move on. I hope on the day someone you care about dies, no one follows it up with insults and a "lighten up, Francis!"

Re:The first four comments are disgusting? (4, Insightful)

forkfail (228161) | more than 2 years ago | (#38708236)

Perhaps, but I don't make a habit of pissing in open graves before the dirt's even shoveled in.

And I find it reprehensible when others do it out of some sort of misbegotten patriotism, envy or need to prop them selves up by being vile to others.

Especially in the case when such potential for brilliance is snuffed out so early.

Re:The first four comments are disgusting. (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38708204)

The real problem is the summary. Yes, it's all very sad that a bright young girl died. But having a "Microsoft Certified Professional" certificate is not what I would call a child prodigy. Judging entirely from the summary, this seems like the usual case of people putting a dead person on a pedastal and exaggerating about how good they were. Now, maybe she did do something worthwhile, but the summary was just stupid. I can list dozens of programmers who wrote really good, meaningful software before they were in high school. I count that as being a prodigy much more than a certificate.

Re:The first four comments are disgusting. (2, Informative)

rubycodez (864176) | more than 2 years ago | (#38708338)

she was certified to fly an airplane at age ten....

and alot of them did not have a certificate (0)

Joe_Dragon (2206452) | more than 2 years ago | (#38708352)

So what we have hear is a head line that makes a big deal about the cert. Now can one any point to some real work (not just passing a test) that she did??

Not saying anything bad about her but the summary makes a big deal about the cert and not much more other then a trip to the main MS office.

Re:The first four comments are disgusting. (4, Insightful)

forkfail (228161) | more than 2 years ago | (#38708364)

To get a cert at 9 is pretty amazing. You may not think much of it, but honestly, that's an achievement.

To get it in a nation like Pakistan, that's incredible, what with all the cultural impediments that must have stood in the way.

And if you'd read the TFA, let alone listened to the interview at all, you'd know that her attitude was one that others might consider emulating.

Regardless of this, it's still beyond belief that folks are being so incredibly mean spirited. Even jackals treat their dead better.

Re:The first four comments are disgusting. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38708216)

Look Fork Fuck, she was a Microsoft Certified Shill that represented all that is wrong with IT today.

Yes, she was a human being, but "tremendous promise"? To do WHAT? Work in Redmond advancing the various needs of The Borg? Really?

Oh yeah, she knew her way around a Widows GUI... FABULOUS!

Why don't you GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE.

Lighten up, Fork. (-1, Troll)

Frosty Piss (770223) | more than 2 years ago | (#38708276)

She may very well have been a "child prodigy", but is being a "Microsoft Certified Professional" (especially in Lahore...) really evidence of that? *ANY* reasonably smart high school kid can jump through those hoops, and quite honestly, being a skilled Windows GUI Cowboy is not exactly an indication of being a "prodigy".

By the way, why so emotional about someone you don't even know? Too much coffee this morning?

Step back, take a deep breath, and cut back on the Twinkies.

Re:The first four comments are disgusting. (-1, Flamebait)

TheRealMindChild (743925) | more than 2 years ago | (#38708334)

While I don't agree with the hate being thrown around, where I come from, it is my bloody right to be an asshole.

Re:The first four comments are disgusting. (3, Insightful)

forkfail (228161) | more than 2 years ago | (#38708390)

And it's my bloody right to tell you that you're being one.

Honestly, it's like Westboro Baptist suddenly got a bunch of new members or something.

Re:The first four comments are disgusting. (1)

hedwards (940851) | more than 2 years ago | (#38708346)

I think it's important not to pretend like she was the only one that could have passed that test at age 9 or done those other things. It's really tempting for people to lose sight of the fact that there's at least a couple percent of the population that could have done that at that age, and a larger portion that could have done the rest.

Remember this is the same site where a lot of people were bad mouthing Ritchie for allegedly having less impact than Jobs.

They don't know a prodigy when they see one. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38708386)

It is quite obvious to me, even if it is not to others: her great coding talent was only eclipsed by her beauty.

This suggests in turn, that her earning potential as a young, intelligent software engineer was snuffed out by the indifference of nature; just as her greater potential as a highly paid fellatio and anilingus specialist was.

In the words of a much wiser man:

I was thinking about these younger women, who got buried today. Did you ever think about them? *Probably not*. But I was thinking about these younger women who died three or four days ago, got buried today. And some of them had a bad heart, some of them a bad kidney, but a lot of them had perfectly good pussies. Good pussies, nice tits, reasonably tight assholes, going to waste! In the ground! It just seems a shame to me, that some fine young pussy should be rotting away six feet under. Because you’d think, you *would think*, in this era, that if you can donate a heart to someone who needs one, there ought to be a way to recycle some of these pussies. And give them to people who need them. Some old guy living up in the mountains. Wow Holy shit, look at this fucking thing, this is great! Thank you very much, sir, thank you, I appreciate it, thank you, God bless you, you’re doing God’s work, I hope you know that. Hey this is better than Publisher’s Clearing House. Listen here, buddy, you haven’t got a red-headed one of these, by any chance? Nah, I didn’t think so, never did run into one of those myself. Thank you very much. Now listen, this is the real thing, isn’t it? This isn’t one of them storeboard pussies from your old bookstore? Huh, what’s that? Oh, okay. Hold on for just a second.

[takes a hard sniff and growls]

Jesus Christ on the cracker, that’s the real fucking thing. I recognise that son of a bitch anywhere. That straightened out my nose hairs. I better get this sucker home and get it in the refrigerator as quick as I can.

To Save A Pussy Foundation. Give the gift that keeps on giving. Fuck the whales. Save the pussies. But you wouldn’t want to save all of them. Not all of them. Some of them are worn out. You wouldn’t want one of those big old rubbery things, that isn’t no good. What you want is, you want yourself something nice and tight but flexible, maybe you’d have an age limit. Or a mileage check. You figure out the average length of the average dick, the average number of thurst per event, the average number of events per life time, you’ve got that lady’s mileage. And you women, I don’t want you to think we’re going to leave you without fun, we’re going to get you a nice set of cock and balls, okay? Will get you something nice, just after rigor mortis has set in. Tell the truth ladies, wouldn’t you like a nice set of cock and balls without all the bullshit that comes with them? Fucking A. We’ll get you something nice, you’ll keep it on the night stand. It’s real easy to find in the dark. And if your mother comes over, put a hat on it. Well somebody has got to think of these things and apparently I’ve been appointed. I was dancing with a woman and she told me she a had a yeast infection. I said, well bake me a fucking loaf of bread. A couple of corn muffins, a jelly donor, I don’t give a shit, I’m always on the market for quality baked goods. You couldn’t squeeze a birthday cake out of that by any chance, now could you? No I didn’t think so, honey, no pressure, no pressure at all. Why don’t you just turn over and get me a nice pineapple upside down cake? And a dozen oatmeal cookies. Skip the raisins. It’s nay on the raisins, aye?

Certified Crop of Assholes (2, Insightful)

tj2 (54604) | more than 2 years ago | (#38708012)

Wow, what a bunch of badasses we have here. Way to slam a dead teenager for not being as cool as you are. Real men, you are.

Re:Certified Crop of Assholes (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38708064)

Wow, what a bunch of badasses we have here. Way to slam a dead teenager for not being as cool as you think you are. Real men, you are.

There, fixed that for you.

Re:Certified Crop of Assholes (1)

XiaoMing (1574363) | more than 2 years ago | (#38708096)

Wow, what a bunch of badasses we have here. Way to slam a dead teenager for not being as cool as you are. Real men, you are.

Or as talented...

Re:Certified Crop of Assholes (1)

VAElynx (2001046) | more than 2 years ago | (#38708186)

Talent is irrelevant in this case.
Yes, microsoft certification probably isn't the hardest thing ever to get, on the other hand, she did it at 9 which is definitely some sort of an achievement. And of course , it attracts publicity to such a case
I can see some people being pissed at "what is this doing on slashdot" but regardless , someone such young age dying isn't something to be happy about , unless they are a robber shot by someone in self-defense (you know the broad class of people i'm referring to).
As for the comment somewhere above, I agree with making fun of the shit that happens, but dark humour has two components - dark and humour. The comments in this thread don't show much of the second..

What a tragic loss (3, Interesting)

msobkow (48369) | more than 2 years ago | (#38708044)

I had no idea epilepsy could be fatal.

I know the years of blood vessel stress can lead a migraine sufferer like myself to suffer an aneurism -- a blood vessel in the brain "blowing out" and bleeding, causing stroke symptoms or even death. But the concept doesn't scare me, it's just a factual risk I live with.

My heartfelt condolences to her family. She was so young and so gifted, with such a future ahead of her. :(

Re:What a tragic loss (1)

nurb432 (527695) | more than 2 years ago | (#38708100)

It was consequences of the coma that followed i bet, not the actual seizure. Even if she wasn't gifted, it would still be sad.

Re:What a tragic loss (1)

VAElynx (2001046) | more than 2 years ago | (#38708124)

If you aren't treated / seen to , you can do things like choke on your own spittle and similar during a fit.

Re:What a tragic loss (5, Informative)

pehrs (690959) | more than 2 years ago | (#38708348)

Epilepsy in it self is non-fatal. There are acute secondary dangers from epileptic seizures (falls, traffic accidents) and also some medical dangers (hypoxia from suspended breathing, heart problems).

But primarily, epileptic seizures is a hint that something is _very_ wrong in the central nervous systems on a low level. There exists a large number of things known to trigger attacks, such as infections, brain injury, drugs, withdrawal from drugs and so on. What you want to do is typically to treat the underlying problem. People don't die of the epileptic attack, it's the underlying problem that kills them (or the secondary dangers).

Oh, by the way, ruptured aneurysm have a surprisingly good prognosis, as long as you get to a hospital in time. If you are a risk group for ruptured aneurysm you really should learn the symptoms and inform your relatives about them as well. This is one of those cases where 2-3 hours makes the difference between "full recovery" and "vegetable".

The candle ... (4, Insightful)

PPH (736903) | more than 2 years ago | (#38708048)

... that burns twice as bright burns half as long.

This raises some interesting questions. (1)

Luke727 (547923) | more than 2 years ago | (#38708054)

Was she hot?

RIP (2)

roman_mir (125474) | more than 2 years ago | (#38708058)

the comments on this topic are disgusting, shows something about an average person (and they are voters).

Why... (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38708062)

Why is this posted on Slashdot?

This is a sad event indeed, but the sad news here is that a young person, yet to live a good and full life died. Not that a possible future program hero died.

Its not news for slashdot. Its news that in this world, a lot of people still die because of diseases that should be able to be helped.

Re:Why... (2, Insightful)

Canazza (1428553) | more than 2 years ago | (#38708136)

She was a programmer. A gifted, young programmer.
Slashdot reported on the death of Denis Ritchie, why not her? Or do you feel that they don't matter?

Re:Why... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38708264)

We care about Dennis Ritchie because he _did_ something. She didn't. Maybe she would have, but also maybe she wouldn't have, no one knows.

It's sad, but in the grand scheme of things, lots of young people full of potential die early.

Re:Why... (1, Insightful)

El_Muerte_TDS (592157) | more than 2 years ago | (#38708308)

The contributions of Dennis Ritchie are well documented.

So we know she became MCP at the age of 9 (and getting a bunch of awards). What has she been doing in the past 7 years? A prodigy would have had some sort of output in a 7 year timespan.

Re:Why... (0, Flamebait)

93 Escort Wagon (326346) | more than 2 years ago | (#38708316)

She was a programmer. A gifted, young programmer.
Slashdot reported on the death of Denis Ritchie, why not her? Or do you feel that they don't matter?

Because Ritchie was an icon to FOSS zealots, while Karim was a prodigy within the Microsoft ecosystem. And, frankly, those hated stereotypes about IT people were largely based on observations of some members of the Unix fraternity.

Re:Why... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38708350)

She didnt' accomplished the same thing as Denis Ritche, nor did her contributions helped shape humanity. It may be a tragedy, but not everyone is worthy of a national mourning period.

Re:Why... (5, Informative)

gordo3000 (785698) | more than 2 years ago | (#38708156)

she was featured on slashdot years ago when she got the certification:

http://slashdot.org/story/05/07/15/0651245/microsofts-10-year-old-certified-professional [slashdot.org]

it's a sad fact so many assholes have basically the same comments that were said back then... I wonder if they just copy and paste?

Re:Why... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38708232)

So that people like you could understand the significance of a young hero. She surely would have been a possible future program hero, only if you were able enough to understand her achievement!

The first comments... (2)

Dave White (9338) | more than 2 years ago | (#38708076)

... are seemingly all arseholes. Sometimes you fuckers make me want to puke. Have a little respect; she's dead.

Re:The first comments... (-1, Troll)

cheekyjohnson (1873388) | more than 2 years ago | (#38708162)

Have a little respect; she's dead.

Yes. I could understand it if they insulted her while she was still alive (a little). But when she turns into a dead lump of meat? The horror! They must respect dead meat because I said so!

So offensive.

Re:The first comments... (1)

Beelzebud (1361137) | more than 2 years ago | (#38708180)

You don't understand because you're just a useless little twirp with no real life experiences. No one asked you to care, we're just puzzled why you feel its time for insults to her.

Re:The first comments... (0, Flamebait)

cheekyjohnson (1873388) | more than 2 years ago | (#38708224)

You don't understand because you're just a useless little twirp with no real life experiences.

Your assumption. It's easy enough to lump someone in with a specific group just because they don't agree with you.

No one asked you to care

I just find it funny that the instant someone dies, they seem to become immune to criticism in some people's eyes (that or you can't insult them). Anyone who dares make a joke or insult them is obviously objectively evil or wrong (or, at least, that's what they appear to be saying).

we're just puzzled why you feel its time for insults to her.

I didn't. But perhaps they thought it would be humorous (and it might have been... to them). Watching people take offense to it is what I find amusing, however.

Re:The first comments... (1)

Beelzebud (1361137) | more than 2 years ago | (#38708246)

You find it amusing because you're a sick fuck. I'd love to see someone like you try this bullshit in a real world setting. Have a nice life, asshole.

Re:The first comments... (1)

cheekyjohnson (1873388) | more than 2 years ago | (#38708266)

You find it amusing because you're a sick fuck.

Your opinions differ from mine. Therefore, you're objectively evil.

I'd love to see someone like you try this bullshit in a real world setting.

Why? Because might makes right?

Re:The first comments... (3, Interesting)

tj2 (54604) | more than 2 years ago | (#38708356)

I agree that people don't become immediately immune to criticism the minute they die. I fully intend to go to the first bar I can find and buy a round for the house the instant I hear Dick Cheney is dead.

However, the argument that she hadn't yet done much is a two-edged argument. If her actual accomplishment were small because she was young, her ability to cause offense is equally small. It's tragic because a bright young person full of potential has lost their life due to a medical problem. Bog knows we can use all the bright young people we can get. And as a parent I cannot but sympathize with her family.

And for the required ad hominem attack: if you don't understand why this is a tragedy, climb up out of the basement and ask your mom. Asshole.

Stay Classy Anonymous Cowards. (3, Interesting)

Beelzebud (1361137) | more than 2 years ago | (#38708108)

I think it's about time /. gets rid of the AC policy. If you can't be bothered to make an account, why should you be able to constantly stink this place up with the sort of bile we see in the first few comments to this?

Re:Stay Classy Anonymous Cowards. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38708250)

I think it's about time /. gets rid of the AC policy. If you can't be bothered to make an account, why should you be able to constantly stink this place up with the sort of bile we see in the first few comments to this?

Because people who say cruel things about a dead child are really going to hold back just because they are under a pseudonym other than "Anonymous Coward" that took a few minutes to make...

Re:Stay Classy Anonymous Cowards. (1)

Beelzebud (1361137) | more than 2 years ago | (#38708260)

It's simple to ban an account. Not so for a free-for-all AC account.

Re:Stay Classy Anonymous Cowards. (1)

artor3 (1344997) | more than 2 years ago | (#38708254)

Forcing them to make accounts would just result in an inundation of new accounts that get used until they accrue bad karma, and then replaced. The only way to keep people from acting like assholes online is to attach usernames to real life IDs. You can keep the real life IDs secret to maintain anonymity, but the IDs need to be available to the server so that people can't just make a new account every time they make an ass of themselves. Given the demographic of this site, I doubt that would be a popular policy.

Re:Stay Classy Anonymous Cowards. (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38708306)

" Slashdot -- feature request: allow filtering based on username/UID.

That feature has existed for the longest time as the Friends/Foes" list.
Click on a user's name, then choose "Friend this user"
You'll get a menu offering you three choices:
Friend
Neutral
Foe

It's three clicks, assuming you already have the friends/foes modifiers set.
If you don't... go into your comments preferences
https://slashdot.org/users.pl?op=editcomm [slashdot.org]
and set Foes to whatever negative modifier you want.
-6 means you'll never see their posts unless you browse in the gutter.

While you're in there, consider changing your default posting method to Plain Old Text.
Links will automagically get urlified and you'll stop posting blocks of text, because your line breaks will carry over /unless you try to use a forward slash at the beginning of a line //you can still use html with POT
"

Re:Stay Classy Anonymous Cowards. (3, Insightful)

TheRealMindChild (743925) | more than 2 years ago | (#38708362)

So you can ignore the fact that the world is full of assholes? AC posting restrictions is good enough to work for the most part. Buck up, be a man, and ignore those who are just trolling. Falling to grief means they win

Gosh... (-1, Troll)

davesque (1911272) | more than 2 years ago | (#38708112)

That is really tragic.

Tragic (4, Interesting)

jargonburn (1950578) | more than 2 years ago | (#38708138)

A moment of silence for a bright little star winking out, no more to lend its brilliance to our future.

Re:Tragic (1)

blind biker (1066130) | more than 2 years ago | (#38708200)

A moment of silence for a bright little star winking out, no more to lend its brilliance to our future.

Very nice words. Worth quoting, thank you - and I feel the same way (though am not so articulate).

Appendage inflation (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38708142)

If 80% of your blood is in your left hand, while it may allow you to play tennis without the need of a racket, can cause varying types of seizure. See pic in article for details.

I am astounded (3, Insightful)

vikingpower (768921) | more than 2 years ago | (#38708172)

at the level of most of the comments here. Had I known this teenager ( I only learned of her existence through this post ), I would have seriously thought of how to make a full-blown engineer or computer scientist out of her.

I know that, in the face of the appallingly low level of most of the comments here, it is easy to take the moral high ground. I know. But still - this is tremendously sad. We ( with "we" I mean both "humanity" and "we, the engineering community" ) lost something valuable here: a promising life.

Kitchen? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38708178)

She died because she left?

Terrible news. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38708188)

I didn't know her, had never heard of her, but to pass at 16 is just sad. So much unfulfilled.

Sad :( (3, Insightful)

aquarajustin (1070708) | more than 2 years ago | (#38708196)

It's sad that she passed so early. She appeared truly gifted and it's a shame that she died too soon to learn how awful Microsoft products are. She could have become quite the *nix wiz.

Blame Microsoft (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38708268)

I blame Microsoft. She must have seen what they did to the Metro API in Windows 8, lol.

Rest In Peace (2)

RonMcMahon (544607) | more than 2 years ago | (#38708290)

Arfa, thank you for being an inspiration during your too-short life. You'll never know the positive example you've been to tens of thousands!

I never heard of her before (5, Interesting)

erroneus (253617) | more than 2 years ago | (#38708296)

To think that a [presumed] Muslim female, a child at that, could accomplish what she did is amazing on so many levels. I am with others on the presumption that her ability was possibly also part of her undoing. The brain is a tricky thing. Hers was likely wired in such a way that it contributed to its burning itself out.

That said, those woman-oppressing Islamic fundamentalists out there can look upon her with all the anger they like. They can't deny what she was. She was female. She was extremely young. She was extremely accomplished and had extremely high potential. I doubt this is the type of symbol she would have wanted to be, but she is definitely a symbol of defiance against ridiculous religious ideals which seek to limit and oppress women into specific roles in life.

Epilepsy can be fatal (5, Informative)

ncmathsadist (842396) | more than 2 years ago | (#38708302)

Yes, epilepsy can be fatal. It can shut down the central nervous system, starve the brain and other vital organs of oxygen, causing death. That just happened here to a very promising young student here in North Carolina. I convey my condolences to the family. There is no crueler cut of life than having to bury a child.
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