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House Kills SOPA

samzenpus posted more than 2 years ago | from the on-second-thought dept.

The Internet 495

An anonymous reader writes "In a surprise move, Representative Eric Cantor (R-VA) announced that he will stop all action on SOPA, effectively killing the bill. This move was most likely due to the huge online protest and the White House threatening to veto the bill if it had passed. But don't celebrate yet. PIPA (the Senate's version of SOPA) is still up for consideration."

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Sopa (0, Offtopic)

linuxdude96 (1382885) | more than 2 years ago | (#38713430)

Sopa is a piece of shit!

Re:Sopa (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38713476)

was*

Re:Sopa (5, Funny)

Rik Sweeney (471717) | more than 2 years ago | (#38713644)

Sopa is a piece of shit!

Ha, I see what you did there:

SOPA reversed is APOS, which stands for A Piece Of Shit.

Clever, even if you didn't intend it to be.

Re:Sopa (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38713786)

PIPA in greek means blow job.

Re:Sopa (5, Informative)

villew (2018258) | more than 2 years ago | (#38713802)

SOPA reversed is APOS, which stands for A Piece Of Shit.

Even more clever, "Sopa" in Swedish means trash.

Re:Sopa (1)

2.7182 (819680) | more than 2 years ago | (#38713842)

Don't forget you'll still have to pay your $699....oh wait, wrong evil historical slashdot theme...

Internet wins (5, Insightful)

TechGuys (2554082) | more than 2 years ago | (#38713434)

Good work!

Re:Internet wins... (5, Informative)

d3ac0n (715594) | more than 2 years ago | (#38713670)

But not in the way many slashdotters might think.

Little appreciated here on Slashdot is the fact that SOPA was as unpopular on the right side of the spectrum as it was on the left. Many conservatives and libertarians rightly see SOPA has a HUGE power grab, and massive step towards an even more centralized government.

Eric Cantor is very tied in with the Conservative Blogosphere and with conservative internet "consciousness". As such he promised early on to do his best to kill SOPA.

It appears that he has kept his promise. Well Done Mr. Cantor. Well Done.

Re:Internet wins... (5, Insightful)

Samantha Wright (1324923) | more than 2 years ago | (#38713750)

I may disagree with you 95% of the time (or more; who knows!), but if what you say is remotely true (and I have no reason to doubt that), then today I think we are all thankful for what has happened.

Re:Internet wins... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38713866)

Well Done Mr. Cantor. Well Done.

How can a single representative kill the bill? Why is a Jew in such a powerful position?

Re:Internet wins... (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38713958)

Magic powers stored in his horns? Kabbalistic chanting? FOR GOD'S SAKE don't look behind you, they're coming for you noooooowwwwwwwwww!

Antisemitic nobber.

Re:Internet wins... (3, Insightful)

betterunixthanunix (980855) | more than 2 years ago | (#38713938)

SOPA was as unpopular on the right side of the spectrum as it was on the left

Really? It sure looks like the right wing politicians in our government -- which includes almost all the politicians in Washington (don't kid yourself; we live in a very right-wing age) -- were highly supportive of SOPA. Why would they not be? They give hand-outs to corporations all the time, and they rarely pause to think about the effect on our civil liberties. It was only because of the libertarian element of the Republican party that this bill was shelved; there are just enough libertarians to create a potential problem.

SOPA Is very much a right-wing bill. What could be more right-wing than attacking a system where anyone can communicate equally, regardless of where they fit into the hierarchy of society? The point of SOPA is to curb the free and open nature of the Internet and to reinvigorate the power of established corporations and government agencies -- sounds very right-wing to me.

Or are we only operating under the Fox News definition of "right wing?"

Re:Internet wins (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38713684)

Not yet. TFA states "However, it isn't quite time yet to celebrate, as PIPA(the Senate's version of SOPA) is still up for consideration.
[...]
PIPA is less well known than SOPA, but the provisions are basicly the same. It still includes the same DNS blocking and censoring system that the original SOPA did, just without the SOPA name. There are around 40 co-sponsors of the bill in the Senate so far, with no word on how many senators support the bill in addition to that."

Which Senators co-sponsered PIPA?

Re:Internet wins (5, Insightful)

phrostie (121428) | more than 2 years ago | (#38713874)

True, but the War of Rights with never end.

Today a battle was won.
what's more, people from all different sides came together to make this happen.

Enjoy the moment.
Remember the day.

and yes, tomorrow it all starts all over again.
but we'll deal with that tomorrow.

Re:Internet wins (4, Insightful)

TaoPhoenix (980487) | more than 2 years ago | (#38713746)

Now you know why they want to shut down the Internet!

Let's even presume they shut down the Senate version.

How can we stop the "sneak it in later" effect?

Re:Internet wins (2)

d3ac0n (715594) | more than 2 years ago | (#38713824)

How can we stop the "sneak it in later" effect?

Well, if the bill has been "tabled" that essentially stops that option. At least, that's my understanding of it. It COULD be brought back, but not quietly.

Of course, the best prescription for those attacks of late night bill passing that Congress occasionally has are frequent purges of sitting politicians and regular ingestion of fresh people committed to smaller, more limited government. And now I'll stop with the medical analogy because it's beginning to get gross.

Holy crap (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38713436)

Do you mean to tell me to tell me that in 2012 the government is actually listening to the will of the people? Man, the world really IS going to end!

Re:Holy crap (5, Insightful)

robinsonne (952701) | more than 2 years ago | (#38713490)

I doubt our will has anything to do with it. They can always just tack on the junk that didn't go through this time on some spending bill for homeless shelters and kittens.

[sarcasm]You wouldn't vote against kittens would you?[/sarcasm]

Re:Holy crap (5, Funny)

ae1294 (1547521) | more than 2 years ago | (#38713610)

I doubt our will has anything to do with it. They can always just tack on the junk that didn't go through this time on some spending bill for homeless shelters and kittens.

But those kittens NEED copyright protection NOW!

Re:Holy crap (2)

king neckbeard (1801738) | more than 2 years ago | (#38713628)

I really wish we'd get a hard limit on how long bills can be to stop this kind of bullshit. Limit bills to roughly 25 pages or an equivalent under current formatting. Then, bills would have to at least somewhat pass on the merit of their own content instead of tagging along on bills that make it illegal to build cannons that shoot puppies filled with explosives at orphans.

Re:Holy crap (5, Insightful)

Sponge Bath (413667) | more than 2 years ago | (#38713846)

You are right. Nothing is "dead" about SOPA. The *content* of SOPA is very unpopular, so its proponents will temporarily withdraw the bill until it can be repackaged and relabeled to sneak it through. The desire of voters is simply not a consideration. Key members of congress have been paid to push this through anyway possible, and they won't stop until the job is done.

Re:Holy crap (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38713572)

What? Ignoring those big companys' support and listen to us? to who gives no extra money and obviously poorer than movie companies?
Agree, This REALLY IS 2012.

Re:Holy crap (1)

Samantha Wright (1324923) | more than 2 years ago | (#38713772)

So all of those very specific claims about rogue planets destroying Earth are actually about public opinion being heard? Those false prophets sure do love to exaggerate things.

Re:Holy crap (5, Interesting)

SJHillman (1966756) | more than 2 years ago | (#38713598)

The presidency, a third of the Senate and the entire House are all up for election this year... may have something to do with it.

Re:Holy crap (3, Interesting)

betterunixthanunix (980855) | more than 2 years ago | (#38713718)

Why? Most people still have no idea what SOPA is, and the timing of this shelving is just perfect -- just before several popular websites were going to try to raise awareness.

Now, let's see what happens with PIPA.

Re:timing of this shelving is just perfect (3, Insightful)

TaoPhoenix (980487) | more than 2 years ago | (#38713778)

It's January 18 right? So they can still do the campaign, just replace the letters to read PIPA ... unless the Senate version gets pulled tomorrow, also in time to be ahead of the protests.

(Do we still do the protests? Or will people whine "well we already won, so why bother protesting?")

Nah (5, Insightful)

Greyfox (87712) | more than 2 years ago | (#38713608)

They just got caught. They'll try again when people are distracted by something else.

Re:Holy crap (5, Insightful)

Hatta (162192) | more than 2 years ago | (#38713658)

No, they're just listening to a different group of corporations for a while. If Google, Amazon, and Facebook were in favor of this, the people wouldn't stand a chance.

Re:Holy crap (2)

udoschuermann (158146) | more than 2 years ago | (#38713682)

Don't cheer too quickly. They're probably going to resurrect SOPA under another name in a few months, but attach it to a big and critical military spending bill. Thus it will pass into law, because nobody wants to vote against it, and be accused of playing into the hands of terrorists.

Re:Holy crap (0)

Samantha Wright (1324923) | more than 2 years ago | (#38713794)

Honestly, I'm surprised that there are still US bills that aren't like this yet. Don't your soldiers scream "FOR THE EMPRAH" already when they go into battle?

Re:Holy crap (1)

Jason Levine (196982) | more than 2 years ago | (#38713878)

The government is always willing to listen when the people loudly protest a bill. And by "listen", I mean kill the bill, wait a bit for the complaints to subside, and then hide small pieces of the killed bill into other bills. The more "must pass" the bill it is hidden in, the better. This way, the government gets credit for having listened to the people and they still get to pass the bill right under everyone's noses.

So while the death of SOPA is something to celebrate, it doesn't mean it's time to declare "Mission Accomplished" and head home. We need to be constantly vigilant to ensure that mini-SOPAs don't sneak into our lawbooks. (And, yes, I am making a sort of terrorist-SOPA analogy.)

Re:Holy crap (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38713880)

You spelled 'corporations' wrong. (see 'people')

Hurray. (5, Insightful)

minikeen (2504690) | more than 2 years ago | (#38713444)

As a non-US citizen that's been watching the developments of this closely, I am extremely glad that this has happened. Hell, I'm sure everyone is. Now just need to do something about PIPA, and we can breathe a nice sigh of relief (for a while)

Re:Hurray. (0)

ae1294 (1547521) | more than 2 years ago | (#38713626)

As a non-US citizen that's been watching the developments of this closely, I am extremely glad that this has happened. Hell, I'm sure everyone is. Now just need to do something about PIPA, and we can breathe a nice sigh of relief (for a while)

No no... We still expect your government to pass a version twice as horrible or we will KILL YOU!

Re:Hurray. (2)

Noughmad (1044096) | more than 2 years ago | (#38713720)

Now just need to do something about PIPA, and we can breathe a nice sigh of relief (for a while)

I don't think it works that way. See, politicians are the masters of compromise. They gave up on SOPA because of pressure from the public and/or internet corporations, so they both are somewhat happy now and will support them for the elections, and now they almost have to appease big media by passing other laws.

When was the last time you've seen more that one politician take a serious stand on something? It's small concessions all around that keeps them in office.

Re:Hurray. (2, Funny)

d3ac0n (715594) | more than 2 years ago | (#38713840)

Why would the US want to do something about Pipa? I mean, she was so hot at the royal wedding in that dress and... Oh... You meant the BILL..

Nevermind.

Celebrations delayed (2)

AG the other (1169501) | more than 2 years ago | (#38713458)

I hope that the senate will get a clue and cancel it's deliberations also. We just need to keep the pressure up.

Keep it Up (5, Informative)

Spritzer (950539) | more than 2 years ago | (#38713462)

I for one have been in contact with my Rep. and have written letters to both of my Senators. I will also being calling them both today. We're making progress. Let's keep it up.

CALL YOUR SENATORS!!

Re:Keep it Up (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38713562)

I spent some time writing snail-mail letters to my senators, posting on their Facebook pages for all to see, and doing the (no-doubt ignored) Twitter thing. Shortly thereafter, I found out that one of them is a bill co-sponsor and the other took nearly $1m in campaign contributions from pro-pipa interests. Yes, I probably should have known that first.

But I'm sure I don't have to tell you, I just about threw up.

Re:Keep it Up (5, Informative)

JimWise (1804930) | more than 2 years ago | (#38713764)

Official listing of contact info (mailing address, phone numbers, and web e-mail) for US Senators:
http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm [senate.gov]

Since any bill would have to pass both houses, and since the Representatives from your state should also have some influence on the Senators from your state you may want to contact them too:
http://www.house.gov/representatives/ [house.gov]

The larger issue... (4, Insightful)

jkrise (535370) | more than 2 years ago | (#38713478)

The people who brought the bill in the first place, are still active; and still receiving funding. More fundamental provisions are called for, to ensure such bills are not tabled in the first place.

Re:The larger issue... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38713594)

Then How about a kickstarter campaign to fund lobbying against these kind of things?

Re:The larger issue... (3, Interesting)

0123456 (636235) | more than 2 years ago | (#38713656)

Then How about a kickstarter campaign to fund lobbying against these kind of things?

So you're going to discourage politicians from taking money from the IP Barons to pass stupid laws by... giving them money?

If I was a a politician I'd think that was double-payday; I could take money from the IP Barons to put forward stupid laws and then take even more money from the anti-IP lobbyists to vote against it. In fact, I'd be pushing as many stupid laws as I possibly could, to increase the amount of money people would give me for voting against them.

It's like paying software developers based on the number of bugs they fix... while allowing them to introduce as many bugs as they want.

Re:The larger issue... (1)

Samantha Wright (1324923) | more than 2 years ago | (#38713864)

Ironically, most software developers that I've met have more professional integrity than that. (Obviously more than can be said for most politicians.)

Re:The larger issue... (1)

CrimsonAvenger (580665) | more than 2 years ago | (#38713634)

to ensure such bills are not tabled in the first place.

Just out of curiousity, are you European?

Reason I ask is that "tabled" means exactly the opposite thing in American politics as it does across the pond. Here, "tabled" is what you do when you stopped consideration of a bill, not when you start.

Re:The larger issue... (1)

jkrise (535370) | more than 2 years ago | (#38713672)

"Just out of curiousity, are you European?"

I'm an Indian, and in our Parliament, after our British overlords, Bills are tabled in the House for voting.

Re:The larger issue... (1)

CrimsonAvenger (580665) | more than 2 years ago | (#38713898)

I'm an Indian, and in our Parliament, after our British overlords, Bills are tabled in the House for voting.

Bah! Should have occurred to me that India would use the same terminology as the Brits, and included that as a possibility.

Not only that... (1)

betterunixthanunix (980855) | more than 2 years ago | (#38713800)

Most people have no idea what SOPA is, and the blackout day protest -- especially the Wikipedia blackout -- would have helped raise awareness, perhaps even reaching a critical mass (if Facebook and Google joined the protest, almost every Internet user in America would know about SOPA). What will happen to blackout day now that SOPA is shelved?

At the end of the day, people are going to be just as unaware of SOPA as they were prior to the bill being shelved. It may still come back, quietly, over and over until websites grow weary of planning blackouts.

Re:The larger issue... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38713896)

> More fundamental provisions are called for, to ensure such bills are not tabled in the first place.

Actually, while the former of your post was fine and something needs to be done about said corruption, this part isn't really.
It was shot down. And rightly so since people spoke up about it.
Everything deserves an equal chance of a fair trial and discussion, even if it is borderline retarded.

If people spoke up more about problems with bills, the government might actually listen to you. Even the American government as ignorant to demands as they are.
Given enough people, the government will have to say, "oh well wait a minute, these people really bring up a good point, this does really break [x]"
Change your government, make them listen. This is a very good starting ground where you could step in and try to push for a better government with better regulation of meetings and decisions.

Who cares ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38713482)

It'll be back in another form in just a few moments.

Re:Who cares ? (2)

alen (225700) | more than 2 years ago | (#38713496)

something like 95% of all proposed laws never see the light of day and are killed in committee. there are all kinds of crazy laws proposed every day and this is what congress is for

Got a reliable source? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38713484)

I wouldn't exactly consider examiner.com a "reliable source", especially when the article has no supporting evidence.

Re:Got a reliable source? (5, Informative)

alen (225700) | more than 2 years ago | (#38713606)

go to www.house.gov and see for yourself. almost everything congress does is public record and recorded

Source? (5, Insightful)

iamhassi (659463) | more than 2 years ago | (#38713506)

examiner.com is essentially a blog, [examiner.com] was this the best source for this information? There's no links to a reliable news source, no links to a .gov site or the congressman's announcement, just "hey he blocked it hurray!"

Is anyone else reporting that SOPA is dead?

Re:Source? (4, Informative)

bobwrit (1232148) | more than 2 years ago | (#38713588)

Re:Source? (1)

MagicM (85041) | more than 2 years ago | (#38713678)

That article is from jan 14th, 2 days ago (unlike the current story's article which states "today" on jan 16th) and is way more vague:

House Oversight Chairman Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) said early Saturday morning that Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) promised him the House will not vote on the controversial Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) unless there is consensus on the bill.

(...) Majority Leader Cantor has assured me that we will continue to work to address outstanding concerns and work to build consensus prior to any anti-piracy legislation coming before the House for a vote."

So far the only source for Jan 16th saying anything as definite as "stop all action on SOPA" is this one random guy's blog...

Counterattack. (5, Insightful)

unity100 (970058) | more than 2 years ago | (#38713510)

If you keep in defense, this will keep coming with pipa, popa, schupa, schmugga, and eventually they will succeed. The only way to fix this issue, is to go on the offensive, and passing legislation that will prevent such crap, and neutralizing the content industry and its assaults.

google, amazon, ebay et al - its their task. they need to start buying congressmen/senators, and start buying laws, now. Because thats how the capitalist democracies work.

Re:Counterattack. (1)

TheBlackMan (1458563) | more than 2 years ago | (#38713664)

Exactly.
It is important to realize that these guys will never ever stop unless we stop them first.

So we should actively find & destroy all politicans, corporations and organizations which create laws like these. When they get their asses kicked, they won't have such stupid ideas anymore.

Re:Counterattack. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38713742)

google, amazon, ebay et al - its their task. they need to start buying congressmen/senators, and start buying laws, now. Because thats how the capitalist democracies work.

I completely agree about the need to come off the defensive, but buying politicians and laws is the problem, not the solution. If capitalist democracy isn't working then the solution is to fix the democracy, not sink to exactly the level of the people you hate.

Re:Counterattack. (5, Insightful)

bondsbw (888959) | more than 2 years ago | (#38713770)

google, amazon, ebay et al - its their task. they need to start buying congressmen/senators, and start buying laws, now.

The fact that I can agree with you makes me hate our "democracy" even more.

Re:Counterattack. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38713858)

The only way to fix this issue, is to go on the offensive, and passing legislation that will prevent such crap, and neutralizing the content industry and its assaults.

* passing legislation that will prevent such crap: you correctly identified the solution - new power factor "Silicon Valley" needs to copy (haha) Hollywood's methods and buy legislation that safeguards the free Internet

* neutralizing the content industry: this can be done in two ways: introduction of an Intellectual Property Tax (preferably in the form of a mandatory copyright registration and yearly copyright renewal fees) OR in the form of a drastic reduction in copyright protection term to 20 years or less.

says who? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38713512)

I hate to be a dick on this one but, uhm, [citation needed] ?

Re:says who? (1)

Manuka (4415) | more than 2 years ago | (#38713790)

Not really. The blog post on thehill.com is equally deficient in citations. I'm sorry, I'm not buying this one until I hear it from original sources There's nothing in the House proceedings about it, nor has Cantor gone on record with it.

Dead or consolidated? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38713520)

Was SOPA a redundant bill with PIPA out there?

Son of SOPA (1)

Coisiche (2000870) | more than 2 years ago | (#38713542)

At the end of the movie when you think the monster is dead it is often revealled that something survived...

The sponsers of this still have deep pockets and a desire to maintain an income from a now flawed business model. Whose to say that what comes next isn't worse?

Be Vigilant (5, Informative)

vinng86 (1978262) | more than 2 years ago | (#38713550)

The bill has been SHELVED, not killed. A lot of bills in the past came back after being shelved and got pushed into law when the opposition to it quieted down (e.g. the Patriot Act). Keep up the opposition. Do not let them pass this bill again!

Re:Be Vigilant (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38713912)

Unless a bill is taken to the floor and voted down, they are never killed, just shelved.

Whats going on? (4, Insightful)

vlm (69642) | more than 2 years ago | (#38713566)

I'm curious whats actually going on? So, distract the populace with a ridiculous bill, meanwhile push thru and organize... what, the war on Iran, or prepare for the collapse and dissolution of Euroland, or maybe its time for the Argentine economy to collapse again, or ... My point is you ram thru an over the top #1 story to overshadow the #2 story, so what is currently the #2 story?

Re:Whats going on? (2)

Hatta (162192) | more than 2 years ago | (#38713696)

I think you expect a little too much organization on the part of our political masters. They do try to manage the news cycle, but they can't predict exactly what the stories will be. I think they're honestly astonished that people actually care about this issue.

Re:Whats going on? (1)

sandytaru (1158959) | more than 2 years ago | (#38713698)

The dog and pony show of the Republican primary. While everyone was seething over SOPA, The GOP Establishment managed to get their anointed one, Mitt Romney, as their nominee, pretty much.

Re:Whats going on? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38713822)

Right. Because while everyone was busy reporting on SOPA, there was nobody out there reporting on the republican primary... Oh wait...

Re:Whats going on? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38713930)

+1

Re:Whats going on? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38713818)

There's nothing going on, they were just shocked people cared.

Waiting for corroborating evidence (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38713632)

There's no links to any announcement in the cited story. There's no corroborating stories in the straight media, and no announcement on Cantor's website.

Thank Tod! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38713650)

For once, money couldn't buy legislation in America!! I think I may have a heart attack....

SOPA vs PIPA (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38713660)

Being an outsider, I don't understand how the US system works. Are the House of Representatives and Senate both proposing bills to a third party? Will the first one to make it win, or is it usual for two overlapping bills to be accepted? What if bill 1's penalty for an offence is X, and bill 2's penalty for the same offence is Y, is the end result max(X,Y) or X+Y?

In response... (2)

Lincolnshire Poacher (1205798) | more than 2 years ago | (#38713668)

I wonder if the entertainment industry will announce a pro-SOPA blackout in response.

Imagine the howls of anguish if The Hobbit was delayed for a few months :-)

Re:In response... (1)

betterunixthanunix (980855) | more than 2 years ago | (#38713854)

Why would the MPAA want people to know about SOPA? They want this bill to be quietly introduced, so that by the time most people realize what is happening it is too late.

What bothers me is the future of the blackout day protest. If people think SOPA is dead, will they still protest? Will the protest be renewed should SOPA come back (it is not dead, it is shelved)? Will they just keep shelving it and trying again until nobody has the energy left to keep fighting?

Examiner article is misleading (5, Informative)

Necroman (61604) | more than 2 years ago | (#38713676)

I recommend an article [cnet.com] that has actual quotes from Darrell Issa (the person who is talking to the press about this). The bill is on hold until the wording is changed in the bill so more people agree with it.

Opening 2 paragraphs from the cnet article:

The latest string of setbacks for supporters of the bills came Saturday when Darrell Issa (R-Calif.), chairman of the Oversight committee in the U.S. House of Representatives, said that he was promised by Majority leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) that a vote on the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) will not occur "unless there is consensus on the bill."

"While I remain concerned about Senate action on the Protect IP Act [a similar bill to SOPA introduced into the Senate last year], I am confident that flawed legislation will not be taken up by this House," Issa said in a statement, according to the blog The Hill. "Majority Leader Cantor has assured me that we will continue to work to address outstanding concerns and work to build consensus prior to any antipiracy legislation coming before the House for a vote."

good riddance (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38713680)

Nuf said

Obama's advisors came out against it (3, Informative)

Zontar_Thing_From_Ve (949321) | more than 2 years ago | (#38713686)

With the House in majority Republican control and Cantor killing the bill, it doesn't really matter what the Senate does. This happens all the time when the Senate and the House are controlled by different parties. One will pass legislation that the other will never even take up just to be able to tell their voters "we passed a bill on X but those evil guys in the other party in the other side of Congress thwarted us". The only reason the White House was against it is that Obama listened to several of his top IT advisors who strongly came out against it. But in general Congress isn't really smart enough to understand what the legislation is about. It just became so toxic for a variety of reasons (a lot of big contributors on the IT side probably threatened to cut donations if it passed) that it wasn't worth the fight. Democrats have traditionally been more pro-entertainment industry and pro-lawyers than Republicans so I have to admit to being surprised that the White House didn't back it anyway. Plenty of Republicans back the entertainment industry too, they're just slightly less inclined to do so.

By the way, one of my former co-workers said that he did contact his representative in Congress. He did not say who his representative was (most likely it's a Republican) but he said that it was clear that his representative really did not understand the bill at all and was framing it in the simplistic "Let's stop evil job stealing piracy!" terms that the entertainment industry has used to sell it to Congress.

Internet enables Democracy? (2)

Esion Modnar (632431) | more than 2 years ago | (#38713792)

FTA: "...is a good demonstration of how the Internet enables Democracy." Thus ensuring that politicians everywhere hate it and want to kill it,

Veto? I think not. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38713820)

"the White House threatening to veto the bill if it had passed"

We all know how that went with the defense appropriations bill. It's a gangster government, children, where money plays power. Call it crony capitalism, call it overreaching socialism. Whichever, same result: if it puts the screws to the common man and adds to the power wielded by the government, Obama will sign it. He protests like Ron Paul protests earmarks. Which is to say: for show.

Imagine (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38713894)

It was nice to see all the support and coming together of folks everywhere in getting this bill canned. It makes me wonder -- what if we, the Internets, could push for getting some of our techno-liberties back? How 'bout they stop spying on us? How about we push for some money for infrastructure (we should already have fiber to the home)?

It's great to see folks unite against tyranny, but I think there's a whole lot more we could do if we all stuck together like we did with this most recent attempted takeover of the Internet.

Lamar Smith still needs to lose his job over this. (5, Informative)

Thoguth (203384) | more than 2 years ago | (#38713900)

This is good. The next step is to keep Lamar Smith from getting re-elected. Right now he's running unopposed for the republican nomination in a district that includes parts of Austin, a very techie town. With the right amount of national support for "Anybody but Lamar Smith" he can and should lose his seat over this.

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