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Jerry Yang Resigns From Yahoo

Unknown Lamer posted more than 2 years ago | from the yahooligans-take-over-board dept.

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PattonPending writes "It seems that the long tenure of Jerry Yang at Yahoo has ended. Yahoo's board released a letter that Yang wrote announcing his retirement, saying, in part: 'My time at Yahoo!, from its founding to the present, has encompassed some of the most exciting and rewarding experiences of my life. However, the time has come for me to pursue other interests outside of Yahoo! As I leave the company I co-founded nearly 17 years ago, I am enthusiastic about the appointment of Scott Thompson as Chief Executive Officer and his ability, along with the entire Yahoo! leadership team, to guide Yahoo! into an exciting and successful future.'"

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Kind of a bummer (5, Insightful)

bonch (38532) | more than 2 years ago | (#38742802)

I really have to wonder if Yahoo should have accepted Microsoft's $45 billion bid, which Yang was roundly criticized for rejecting. It's not like Yahoo has much else going for it besides a few services like Finance, and I don't even know how well that's doing. In my own experience, the only people I see using Yahoo are computer illiterate users with old email accounts there who refuse to switch to Gmail (the kind of people who type URLs into the Yahoo's search field to visit a website). I never used Yahoo other than a vague memory of trying their "internet directory" a few times way back when, but it's a little sad to see them on an apparent decline since they've been such a staple of the web for so long.

As John Gruber put it: "I remember an Internet without Jerry Yang at Yahoo, but I don’t remember a World Wide Web without Jerry Yang at Yahoo."

Re:Kind of a bummer (4, Insightful)

Synerg1y (2169962) | more than 2 years ago | (#38742868)

Well... when was the last time yahoo launched... anything major?

Re:Kind of a bummer (0)

jhoegl (638955) | more than 2 years ago | (#38742992)

When gas still cost a dollar/gallon and George Cluney was still playing doctor.

Re:Kind of a bummer (1)

sglewis100 (916818) | more than 2 years ago | (#38747506)

I see no evidence that George Cluney ever played a doctor [facebook.com] . Perhaps you meant stormtrooper? Or did you mean to cite George Clooney?

Re:Kind of a bummer (4, Insightful)

ThunderBird89 (1293256) | more than 2 years ago | (#38742910)

I have all my mail on my yahoo account, despite having a Google account as well. It's just that I created the Yahoo! one way back, around 1996-7, and have been using it ever since, and at this point, migrating over to Gmail would be too much of a hassle, and quite frankly, I like Yahoo!'s UI much more than Gmail's (folders, for example, easy-to-use hotkeys, etc).
I've seen the storage expansions, from 20 MB to 100, then 500, then 1GB, and finally infinite, the new UI and the "All-New Yahoo! Mail"-campaign, hell, I even have access to the Premium features like disposable addresses (something else Gmail lacks), without paying anything (though I don't know why, possibly as a reward for long-standing use?).

Regarding searches, I've long since switched over to Google, but for me, mail will always be on Yahoo!, even though I don't use anything else from the company any more.

throwaways are easy with gmail (4, Informative)

bigtrike (904535) | more than 2 years ago | (#38743364)

username+throwawaypart@gmail.com will be redirected to username@gmail.com.

Re:throwaways are easy with gmail (1)

madprof (4723) | more than 2 years ago | (#38743436)

You are a legend - thank you!

Re:throwaways are easy with gmail (4, Informative)

Hentes (2461350) | more than 2 years ago | (#38743788)

The problem with that is that it's trivial to discard the part after the + thus getting the real address.

Re:throwaways are easy with gmail (3, Interesting)

johnsnails (1715452) | more than 2 years ago | (#38743842)

something I picked up from /. is putting a period anywhere in the address still reaches your real email address, so if you sign up for something you can track down who is giving away your email address if you get spam at s.omename@gmail.com i think you get the idea....

Re:throwaways are easy with gmail (1)

Hentes (2461350) | more than 2 years ago | (#38744044)

This is effectively the same, removing periods from an address is still no hard task.

Re:throwaways are easy with gmail (1)

suomynonAyletamitlU (1618513) | more than 2 years ago | (#38744422)

yes, but you can have a canonical email address with dots in it (your.name@gmail), and filter out email addresses without dots (yourname@gmail). They'll all get delivered, but you can set it up to tag anything with a wrongly-formatted to: address, kick it out of your inbox, or even automatically delete it.

Re:throwaways are easy with gmail (1)

syockit (1480393) | more than 2 years ago | (#38746542)

What you suggest for people like me who's already used the address without the dots as the default?

Re:throwaways are easy with gmail (1)

tokul (682258) | more than 2 years ago | (#38745684)

The problem with that is that it's trivial to discard the part after the + thus getting the real address.

If you have problems with that, get real domain and setup catchall for entire domain.

Re:throwaways are easy with gmail (5, Interesting)

nblender (741424) | more than 2 years ago | (#38743934)

yeah... And it's awesome that as much as 30% of the websites on the intarwebs will accept an email address with a '+' in it...

Re:throwaways are easy with gmail (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38744048)

good luck using that on 90% of the sites out there

Re:throwaways are easy with gmail (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38747314)

which is annoying because I keep getting mail from other people with similar usernames.

Re:Kind of a bummer (1)

Macrat (638047) | more than 2 years ago | (#38743376)

I have all my mail on my yahoo account, despite having a Google account as well. It's just that I created the Yahoo! one way back, around 1996-7, and have been using it ever since, and at this point, migrating over to Gmail would be too much of a hassle,.

I'm sure it will be less of a hassle when Yahoo gets sold and Yahoo Mail is shut down.

Re:Kind of a bummer (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38743472)

I'm sure it will be less of a hassle when Yahoo gets sold and Yahoo Mail is shut down.

Why would anyone purchase Yahoo! just to shut down one of the most visited properties that generates a huge number of ad impressions?

Re:Kind of a bummer (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38743584)

I have all my mail on my yahoo account, despite having a Google account as well. It's just that I created the Yahoo! one way back, around 1996-7, and have been using it ever since, and at this point, migrating over to Gmail would be too much of a hassle,.

I'm sure it will be less of a hassle when Yahoo gets sold and Yahoo Mail is shut down.

And we call ourselves geeks (Face to palm).

Doesn't everyone here own run a few email and asterisk servers, own a few domains, manage their own DNS or have all those people crawled back into their bunker (parents basement) to wait out the apocalypse.

Re:Kind of a bummer (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38744694)

Nope. Your the dorkiest geek alive.

Re:Kind of a bummer (2)

19thNervousBreakdown (768619) | more than 2 years ago | (#38744722)

Still kickin it old school with qmail, bind, dovecot, apache, vsftp, roundcube, and few (hundred) custom scripts.

Still feverishly waiting for the Raspberry Pi so I can set up my MPD control/playback node with nas/esound/jack/pulseaudio/whichever ends up working well on that platform.

Gstreamer would be niiiice, but, alas...

Re:Kind of a bummer (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38745844)

jesus man get a fucking life already. this isn't a troll, honestly. step back for a few days, go to the countryside leaving all your technology at home, and get a fresh sense of perspective.

Re:Kind of a bummer (1)

underqualified (1318035) | more than 2 years ago | (#38746400)

Last time I did that, I thought to myself: "God. I can't wait to talk about this on Twitter."

Kidding.

Re:Kind of a bummer (1)

jonamous++ (1687704) | more than 2 years ago | (#38747040)

Are you dense? You must be trolling. If you are even moderately skilled, doing all of this doesn't take up all of your time. I have a nice custom mail setup, I program for fun, and I tinker with software and hardware (a lot). Even doing that, I still manage a few non-tech hobbies that take up quite a few hours per week, plus I manage a family life and a job.

Re:Kind of a bummer (1)

rtb61 (674572) | more than 2 years ago | (#38747296)

Of course Yahoo is a complete portal unlike Google which lacks many features so not really in that running. Yahoo might do well to run up it's 'hit count' by the simple act of making all menu selections simultaneously routing via the web while it provides the internal link. Of course MSN and AOL , the other major portal sites, could also do that. It would be a realistic measure of their stickiness and their true measure end user desirability versus say, google search, bing search, or even social web sites like facebook or stumbleupon.

There are also the custom home page portal features. Even if AOL recently dropped theirs, MSN is still running theirs. For the majority market those customised portal pages are still desirable.

Time to switch, then (1)

Wee (17189) | more than 2 years ago | (#38743800)

Regarding searches, I've long since switched over to Google, but for me, mail will always be on Yahoo!, even though I don't use anything else from the company any more.

Given this knowledge, how much longer do you believe it is that Yahoo will still be able to provide you with free email?

-B

early adopter (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38744004)

Similarly, some of us with common names keep yahoo because we we adopted it early enough to get our own names @ yahoo dot com. By the time gmail came around, there were so many more internet users that my first and last name combination was probably gone within days and I missed it. so though i have several active gmail accounts, the yahoo one is the easiest to verbally give out to people who already know my name - they'll never forget my email address.

Re:Kind of a bummer (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38745170)

When you trust your mail to a third party, for free, you deserve everything you get. I hope Yahoo sells me the nudes of your ugly girlfriend, and gives me your moms social security number.

Re:Kind of a bummer (1)

tehcyder (746570) | more than 2 years ago | (#38747052)

When you trust your mail to a third party, for free, you deserve everything you get. I hope Yahoo sells me the nudes of your ugly girlfriend, and gives me your moms social security number.

Most of us don't send sensitive information by email anyway. And if we do we use encruption.

Re:Kind of a bummer (1)

sglewis100 (916818) | more than 2 years ago | (#38747530)

When you trust your mail to a third party, for free, you deserve everything you get. I hope Yahoo sells me the nudes of your ugly girlfriend, and gives me your moms social security number.

Most of us don't send sensitive information by email anyway. And if we do we use encruption.

Not me. I've been known to use encryption however.

Re:Kind of a bummer (0)

mrmeval (662166) | more than 2 years ago | (#38742932)

to convert Yahoo! into an execrable and depressing mutagenic toxin.

FTFY

Re:Kind of a bummer (0)

jhoegl (638955) | more than 2 years ago | (#38743006)

BOOM! Crotch shot!

Re:Kind of a bummer (1)

hondo77 (324058) | more than 2 years ago | (#38743028)

I really have to wonder if Yahoo should have accepted Microsoft's $45 billion bid, which Yang was roundly criticized for rejecting.

Really? You wonder whether Y! should have accepted $45B with their current market cap less than half that? Really?

Re:Kind of a bummer (1)

hedwards (940851) | more than 2 years ago | (#38743098)

Eh, bonch is a troll.

But, as far as corporate governance goes, it was a mistake at the time and everybody except for the board at Yahoo knew that. I was personally astonished that MS was willing to offer that much for the firm.

For the people at large, it probably would have been the best thing other than forcibly breaking up Google.

Re:Kind of a bummer (1)

marcosdumay (620877) | more than 2 years ago | (#38743736)

From the MS point of view, they just backstabed a company without even making a partneship with it. That must be a new record for them, they just needed Yahoo to say "I agree".

Re:Kind of a bummer (1)

interval1066 (668936) | more than 2 years ago | (#38743158)

I see using Yahoo are computer illiterate users with old email accounts there who refuse to switch to Gmail (the kind of people who type URLs into the Yahoo's search field to visit a website).

I can testify. One of my oldest friends, who, btw, was dragged kicking and screaming into the information age, only now uses his gmail account occasionally. I remember his comments when I help him set up his gmail account some 7 or so years ago; "I like yahoo mail better." He never did explicately say WHAT was better about yahoo mail.

Re:Kind of a bummer (3, Funny)

Macrat (638047) | more than 2 years ago | (#38743408)

He never did explicately say WHAT was better about yahoo mail.

Better than AOL I guess.

Re:Kind of a bummer (2)

DogDude (805747) | more than 2 years ago | (#38744560)

I have yet to read any factual statements telling why Gmail is any better than Yahoo, either. What's your point?

Re:Kind of a bummer (1)

fortfive (1582005) | more than 2 years ago | (#38744724)

I have yet to read any factual statements telling why Gmail is any better than Yahoo. . .

Free imap?

Re:Kind of a bummer (1)

sapphire wyvern (1153271) | more than 2 years ago | (#38746134)

No graphical banner ads.

Re:Kind of a bummer (3, Interesting)

hairyfeet (841228) | more than 2 years ago | (#38743366)

Actually if you look at the numbers yahoo is number one or number two in worldwide webmail, and I can tell you from my little shop that the vast majority of home users that come through my door have their homepage set to yahoo.com. That is one thing Yahoo has done right, while you or I might think its a cluttered POS talking to ordinary folks Yahoo has taken the place of the morning paper, they fire up Yahoo and check the local and national headlines, check the weather and their horoscope, all the things folks did with their morning paper they now do with Yahoo.

As for the MSFT deal it shows me TWO things: One Yang is an arrogant ass since he turned down an offer that was more than twice the highest yahoo stock has EVER traded at, and two it shows me Steve Ballmer is right up there with the Pepsi guy at Apple for being the biggest dipshit CEO. offering $33 for Yahoo, what are you nuts? He probably could have bought the only two bits worth anything to MSFT, the webmail and the searches, for less than a quarter of that and let yang have the portal. Instead Ballmer gets a case of the stupids and offers insane money, which yang being just as dumbshit turned down. If I was a Yahoo shareholder i'd have wanted yang's head for that dumbshit move, just look at the stock now, what's it trading at, $13? And MSFT offered $33? Stupid.

Re:Kind of a bummer (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38744070)

Yahoo's stock was over $100 during the dot com boom, so no, Yang did not turn down a deal that was twice the highest Yahoo stock has ever traded at. It has split since, but has still hit over $40 after all the splits.

Now, Yang may still be a fool for turning down $33 / share since the stock has done nothing but slide since (and the writing did appear to be on the wall to at least everyone else), but other people can make that judgement.

Re:Kind of a bummer (1)

marcosdumay (620877) | more than 2 years ago | (#38743776)

Most of the people that are on the Internet since the 90's aren't computer iliterated. Also, you don't know what you are missing by not looking into it, Yahoo's UI is way better than Google's.

I've been moving my email from Yahoo since the failed partneship with Microsoft, but there is no way I'll put anything important on Gmail.

Re:Kind of a bummer (2, Informative)

GreatBunzinni (642500) | more than 2 years ago | (#38744026)

The bonch user account is a shill account which is used, along with other user accounts such as SharkLaser [slashdot.org] and Overly Critical Guy [slashdot.org] , to astroturf slashdot in order to manipulate slashdot users with pro-Microsoft, anti-Google PR.

See how these accounts paste PR crap from the same corporate script in this post [slashdot.org] and this post [slashdot.org] , and in this post [slashdot.org] check how these accounts are employed together in the same discussion to karmawhore and to steer the discussion into a more corporate PR position.

and just who is the 'bonch'? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38746548)

http://techrights.org/2010/02/19/defamed-by-access-employee/

http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?20559-Does-a-grand-evil-conspiracy-lie-behind-specific-Desktop-Environments/page21

Re:Kind of a bummer (1)

tehcyder (746570) | more than 2 years ago | (#38747104)

The bonch user account is a shill account which is used, along with other user accounts such as SharkLaser [slashdot.org] and Overly Critical Guy [slashdot.org], to astroturf slashdot in order to manipulate slashdot users with pro-Microsoft, anti-Google PR.

I thought bonch was anti-Google and apro-Apple or am I thinking of someone else? In any case, trying to astroturf with pro-Microsoft postings on slashdot is about as sensible as spamming bacon sandwiches on an Islamic website.

Re:Kind of a bummer (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38744222)

Why should we switch to Gmail when Yahoo mail is better? Gmail just recently got a preview pane (which is still considered "a lab") which now makes it barely acceptable, and it Gmail uses a bold font which looks like the Microsoft System font from the early 90's. Gmail also still has ads. At least on yahoo premium you can get rid of them and use the whole screen. There's no amount you can pay to get rid of the Gmail ads. I'll admit the Gmail threaded conversations are cool, and it seems the spammers haven't yet found my Gmail account.

Re:Kind of a bummer (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38744326)

You can disable ads if you use Google Apps for Business. It's more expensive though, at $50/user/year compared to $20 for Y!Mail Plus.

Re:Kind of a bummer (2)

larry bagina (561269) | more than 2 years ago | (#38744444)

Back in the day, yahoo chat was a great way to get laid on a Tuesday night without much work on your part (even easier if you didn't care if it was with a chick). They didn't seem to care when the 'bots took over, though.

Other than yahoo finance and an occasional flickr link, I wouldn't notice if they disappeared.

Re:Kind of a bummer (4, Funny)

gregrah (1605707) | more than 2 years ago | (#38745548)

Slashdot needs a -1 "TMI" mod option.

Re:Kind of a bummer (1)

tehcyder (746570) | more than 2 years ago | (#38747132)

Back in the day, yahoo chat was a great way to get laid on a Tuesday night without much work on your part (even easier if you didn't care if it was with a chick).

And easier still if you were prepared to pay.

Oops.

Re:Kind of a bummer (1)

Altus (1034) | more than 2 years ago | (#38745460)

I remember when their "internet directory" was the only fucking way to find anything at all.

Still, its been a long time since they were particularly useful.

Reckoning Time. (1)

luis_a_espinal (1810296) | more than 2 years ago | (#38746774)

I really have to wonder if Yahoo should have accepted Microsoft's $45 billion bid, which Yang was roundly criticized for rejecting.

It should had, and Yang was a bone-head. Anyways, good riddance, and it should be soon reckoning time for Yahoo, which hasn't been a tech company in ages. It is now a limited set of marketing services, that's all, the AOL of tech has-beens. Paul Grahams provides some insights as of why of such fateful transformation: http://www.paulgraham.com/yahoo.html [paulgraham.com]

Organized trolling campaign by GreatBunzinni (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38742808)

GreatBunzinni [slashdot.org] has been posting anonymous accusations [slashdot.org] listing a whole bunch of Slashdot accounts as being part of a marketing campaign for Microsoft, without any evidence. GreatBunzinni has accidentally outed himself [slashdot.org] as this anonymous poster. Half the accounts he attacks don't even post pro-Microsoft rhetoric. The one thing they appear to have in common is that they have been critical of Google in the past. GreatBunzinni has been using multiple accounts to post these "shill" accusations, such as Galestar [slashdot.org] , NicknameOne [slashdot.org] , and flurp [slashdot.org] .

That's not the problem. The problem is that moderators gave him +5 Informative and are now modding down the accused, even for legitimate posts. Metamoderation is supposed to address this by filtering out the bad moderators, but clearly it's not working.

This "shill" crap that has been flying around lately has to stop. It's restricting a variety of viewpoints from participating on the site and creating an echo chamber.

Re:Organized trolling campaign by GreatBunzinni (-1, Offtopic)

TechGZ (2555776) | more than 2 years ago | (#38742856)

Thank you, this is good information. MOD UP!

Re:Organized trolling campaign by GreatBunzinni (-1, Offtopic)

NeutronCowboy (896098) | more than 2 years ago | (#38742942)

Sockpuppetry is apparently not working out too well for you.

Re:Organized trolling campaign by GreatBunzinni (1)

flimflammer (956759) | more than 2 years ago | (#38742978)

So, which one of those accounts he's accusing are you?

Or do you expect people to believe you're spamming this crap in every single irrelevant thread out of the kindness of your heart?

Re:Organized trolling campaign by GreatBunzinni (1)

TheCouchPotatoFamine (628797) | more than 2 years ago | (#38743056)

how is meta-moderation broken? I saw evidence I could relate to, and i believe that it's quite possible these people are shills. You sound very much like someone protecting their /job/. And you being AC? that's just seals it. piss off.

Re:Organized trolling campaign by GreatBunzinni (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38743178)

All someone has to do to convince you of something is post a list of names followed by a website link? You must be the most gullible person on the planet.

Yahoo + Bing (0)

TechGZ (2555776) | more than 2 years ago | (#38742812)

They made deal with Bing, so i can foresee good future for Yahoo.

Son of a beotch! (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38742858)

Yahoo's still around!

Welcome To Yesterday's News (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38742870)

This was all over the news yesterday. Now you finally get around to posting it more 24 hours later?

Here's a hint for slashdot editors, Yahoo ain't the only internet site that's dying.

Re:Welcome To Yesterday's News (5, Funny)

MrEricSir (398214) | more than 2 years ago | (#38743222)

Yesterday's news about yesterday's companies!

Scott Thompson? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38742872)

The Kids In The Hall will do a better job anyways! Just need to get the rest of the cast. Sorry, couldn't resist when I saw his name... LOL!

But Yahoo shareholders got such a good deal. (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38742892)

Good luck finding someone who will work for his salary. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24376328/ns/business-us_business/t/yahoo-ceo-yang-made-salary-last-year/#.TlfhkF34TSg

Re:But Yahoo shareholders got such a good deal. (2)

hondo77 (324058) | more than 2 years ago | (#38743212)

Given the billions of $ in shareholder value lost because Yang valued his pride more than the shareholders, that $1 cost way too much.

Re:But Yahoo shareholders got such a good deal. (2)

bartoku (922448) | more than 2 years ago | (#38744542)

I will work for a $1 as CEO of Yahoo!
I am looking for a resume builder.

Take the money and run... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38742962)

So Jerry, it's time to take the $$ and run? Can't say I blame you! Best of luck in your new endeavors, and remember to spread a bit of that bling around! :-)

Uhhh.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38742980)

Overstayed his welcome, 15 minutes are up Jerry! Like 4 years ago

"Pursue other interests" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38743022)

Isn't "pursue other interests" the usual doublespeak for getting fired?

Re:"Pursue other interests" (1)

hedwards (940851) | more than 2 years ago | (#38743118)

No, sometimes it means banging the secretary and quitting before that becomes public.

Re:"Pursue other interests" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38743660)

Nowadays I think it usually means, "I have my fingers in 3 little start-ups that will be over-funded, over-hyped and probably die. Oh, and yeah, everyone wants me out of my current position."

Yahoo is more worthless than garbage (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38743032)

That site has nothing to offer other than legacy email account access and stock pumping/bashing on the finance boards.

The only thing Yahoo ever had going for it was the Yahoo Message Boards linked to news stories.

Re:Yahoo is more worthless than garbage (1)

Macrat (638047) | more than 2 years ago | (#38743432)

That site has nothing to offer other than legacy email account access and stock pumping/bashing on the finance boards.

I had forgotten about their stock message boards.

99.9999% noise.

Yahoo - the Google that wasn't (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38743048)

I've never quite been able to figure Yahoo. They went boring-corporate early, but never quite managed a full changeover to irrelevance.

As late as ~2005 they contacted me (anon, so I can say) as part of a web-dev famous-name dream-team they wanted to assemble.

They'd decided that being no.2 to Google just wasn't a recipe for survival; they'd have to be better to simply survive. They'd have to be smarter than Google about the Web.

So they asked all their web devs, 'Who are the Names? Who do you read? Who do you want to work with?' and then set off on a CEO-mandated mission to hire those people. Good offices, good projects, staff masseuses -- the old days brought back and amplified. Serious bait.

As far as I could tell, they never managed to get anyone. And since their web-savvy didn't change, they didn't seem to empower their in-house staff any either. The project went nowhere, at least from what I could see on the outside.

lol (0)

zoomshorts (137587) | more than 2 years ago | (#38743088)

43 hours old !!! Niggers !!!

Who is Yahoo? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38743288)

Seriously, does anyone care what Yahoo does? They were always the shit search engine, they've always been "those toolbar bundling mofos", and lately they have just been "that logo on channel 7 (Australia) websites".

In effect that organisation exists to now just to slowly spend the money it made during the years it was actually doing something.

Re:Who is Yahoo? (4, Interesting)

kiwimate (458274) | more than 2 years ago | (#38744000)

Mmm-hmm... [google.com]

Re:Who is Yahoo? (1)

wvmarle (1070040) | more than 2 years ago | (#38746056)

I am one of those regular visitors to Yahoo. Use them (almost) daily to play online card games (bridge specifically). There probably are other board that offer it, but Yahoo works fine and I'm used to the culture and game play conventions (very important when playing bridge) on that board.

That said I always wonder how they make money off of that. There is an interstitial ad when navigating to the game room the proper way; I never see it because if I use that route it's blocked for being flash, and normally I access the room directly - just bookmarked it. Furthermore the game itself is free, just requires a Yahoo login which I have since the late 1990s. And occasionally I visit their finance page for forex rates, usually via a Google search.

Re:Who is Yahoo? (1)

sglewis100 (916818) | more than 2 years ago | (#38747584)

I am one of those regular visitors to Yahoo. Use them (almost) daily to play online card games (bridge specifically). There probably are other board that offer it, but Yahoo works fine and I'm used to the culture and game play conventions (very important when playing bridge) on that board.

That said I always wonder how they make money off of that. There is an interstitial ad when navigating to the game room the proper way; I never see it because if I use that route it's blocked for being flash, and normally I access the room directly - just bookmarked it. Furthermore the game itself is free, just requires a Yahoo login which I have since the late 1990s. And occasionally I visit their finance page for forex rates, usually via a Google search.

There's a lot of companies getting used without making a dime. I still go to Barnes and Noble all the time, browse the books in person, pick out one, and buy it on my Kindle. Sometimes I'll grab a cup of coffee for $2 and sit down and read $20 worth of magazines.

Yahoo: Turn around or die (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38743352)

I've quit Yahoo for everything but my 'junk' mail address. I don't mind a few liberal pieces now and then, but when they started running mud-slinging stories against those with differing political opinions, I quit. I like the BBC more and more these days-- probably the closest thing to spin-free news you can get.

Wasn't his fault - problem goes 1 level higher. (4, Interesting)

ron_ivi (607351) | more than 2 years ago | (#38743384)

This wasn't even Jerry's fault.

Yahoo had management problems ever since their old board was so enamored by AOL buying Time Warner that they wanted to become a copycat-media-company and decided to hire that Warner Bros Hollywood guy who didn't know anything about the internet.

If it weren't for that guy, Yahoo could have had it all.

* Geocities could have been Facebook+Myspace if they further developed their webrings social features.

* Altavista + Overture + Inktomi could have ruled search if they didn't decide to outsource their own search first to Google and then to Bing.

* Broadcast.com could have been Youtube if they encouraged user content.

* I would have stuck with Yahoo Mail if they had sane quotas and IMAP.

But they wanted to become AOL-Time-Warner-II so much that the board picked a Warner Brothers exec for CEO in 2001 or so; and nothing Jerry could do could fix that issue.

Re:Wasn't his fault - problem goes 1 level higher. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38743802)

Lot of if's there.

"Altavista + Overture + Inktomi could have ruled search if they didn't decide to outsource their own search first to Google and then to Bing"

Whatever. Having been part of Overture and then Yahoo and now Google let me just say that is wishful thinking. They had Inktomi powered search for a fairly long time. Google had much more critical mass in terms of usage, which alone means that its collecting much better statistical tuning information. Same thing in Adwords space.

Re:Wasn't his fault - problem goes 1 level higher. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38745038)

...did you even bother to read what you quoted or has being at google rotted your brain away?

Google had shit traffic till Yahoo outsourced their search to Google in an atrociously stupid deal. Inktomi came after that, when they realized just how idiotic their deal had been.

Thing is, despite their lack of traffic in both markets Yahoo wasn't doing too badly. They had good technology and good scientists creating that technology.

Upper management however was incompetent, they couldn't find their own ass if they had a team of fifty engineers to help them. I'm not even talking long term vision, basic management tasks like assigning proper resources to critical teams were not handled at all.

Re:Wasn't his fault - problem goes 1 level higher. (1)

larry bagina (561269) | more than 2 years ago | (#38745418)

I used alltheweb's (since bought up by yahoo and thrown away good use of money guys!) advanced search before discovering google's "exact search" and +modifiers (which have turned to shit recently). I'd switch back if it was still around.

Steve jobs completely separated from Apple in 1985 (4, Interesting)

peter303 (12292) | more than 2 years ago | (#38743450)

Resigned after 9 years. Sold all his stock. Apple III had failed. Mac was fine, but the board wanted an "adult" in charge. Steve returned in 12 years.

Re:Steve jobs completely separated from Apple in 1 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38743876)

Jobs left his personal imprint on Apple. He was the catty lead singer of the group; they were nothing without him. Much as I like Yang, he hasn't been the rudder-holding captain of Yahoo for at least a decade.

Totally looking forward to his solo projects now that he's cut himself away. He's got time to be interesting again.

Re:Steve jobs completely separated from Apple in 1 (3, Interesting)

MarkRose (820682) | more than 2 years ago | (#38744866)

Almost all his stock. He kept one share so he would continue to get the shareholders report.

And... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38743466)

...nothing of value was lost.

A sad day, but maybe a catalyst (3, Insightful)

goodviking (71533) | more than 2 years ago | (#38743684)

Let me preface this statement by saying I love yahoo, or rather I love who theyused to be. I started using yahoo in the akebono days. Back then, Yahoo helped transform the web from a loosely connected set of "hotlists" into a strtuctured entity. They were the cartd catalog for the world wide web, and they owned the space. But they lost their way in the dotcom hype brigade. They tried to be the orginization of the web, the sales front, the noIse maker, ... They built their business on being an organizing force online.

Those days are long gone. They gave it up to be the circus barkers of the internet and are now just like the circus, an outdated spectical with no compelling purpose, kept alive by nostalgia. If Yahoo is to exist in anyrelevant form in 10 years, there needs to be a blood letting. It may be ugly and brutal, but in the end maybe Yahoo will find a reason to exist.

In the end, I am not shedding a tear for Jerry Yang anymore than anyone else who won the lottery.

From the link (1)

jakartus (1287248) | more than 2 years ago | (#38743936)

"About Yahoo!


Yahoo! is the premier digital media company,..."


Really?

Yahoo Finance (2)

durdur (252098) | more than 2 years ago | (#38744304)

I still use Yahoo Finance quite a lot - it's fast, well organized and useful. But if it went away tomorrow, there are alternatives. Yahoo is still making money but their long-term future is starting to look bleak. IMO they should be looking to sell off the valuable pieces while they still have value.

Name change in order (2)

MrKevvy (85565) | more than 2 years ago | (#38744546)

Yahoo will now be known as Yang Who?

Advice for, to be ,Yahoo employee. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38745266)

I have a job offer form Yahoo. Its a software developer profile. Should I join it. Currently I am in final year of graduation.

Too Late ... Parachute Malfunctions ... Oh (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38745290)

Had Jerry bailed out 10 years ago ... he could be returning now. Yet, as in now, time has passed him by.

An illness, ... thearpy ... somewhat recovery ... only to decline more rapidly.

Current internet history has not be kind to Jerry. I can only hope that after his death that ... rewriting will be allowed.

Yahoo (0)

jhon_smith12 (2436668) | more than 2 years ago | (#38745828)

This is not a your fault.Yahoo have management problem sometime and it take long time to create account but on the other hand gmail is better to create account. So i like most the gmail account. uswebauthority [uswebauthority.com]

Re:Yahoo (1)

andrew3 (2250992) | more than 2 years ago | (#38746220)

it take long time to create account but on the other hand gmail is better to create account

And naturally, as a spammer, the ease of creating accounts would be fairly important.

Crisis (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38747660)

It seems that the long tenure of Jerry Yang at Yahoo has ended.

This just in: Yin, deciding to stay at Yahoo, is despondent, unbalanced.

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