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Fake IPad 2s Made of Clay Sold At Canadian Stores

samzenpus posted more than 2 years ago | from the old-school-tablets dept.

Canada 265

SpuriousLogic writes in with a link to a story about some Canadian consumers who thought they were getting an iPad 2 but instead got the makings of the world's oldest tablets. "As many as 10 fake iPad 2s, all made of slabs of modeling clay, were recently sold at electronic stores in Vancouver, British Columbia. Best Buy and Future Shop have launched investigations into how the scam was pulled off. The tablet computers, like most Apple products, are known for their sleek and simple designs. But there's no mistaking the iPad for one of the world's oldest 'tablet devices.' Still, most electronic products cannot be returned to stores. For the the stores and customers to be fooled by the clay replacements, the thieves must have successfully weighed out the clay portions and resealed the original Apple packaging. Future Shop spokesman Elliott Chun told CTV that individuals bought the iPads with cash, replaced them with the model clay, then returned the packages to the stores. The returned fakes were restocked on the shelve and sold to new, unwitting customers."

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Still better than an Android tablet (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38744612)

Android tablets, lol. what a failure in the marketplace

and now both NPD and Nielsen are saying that iOS has erased the market share lead that Android had. 150 Android phones can't even beat 4 old iPhones

Re:Still better than an Android tablet (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38744626)

yawn

bonch (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38744662)

and now both NPD and Nielsen are saying that iOS has erased the market share lead that Android had.

Oh are you talking about this submission from bonch? [slashdot.org]

bonch writes
  "A Nielsen report states that the launch of the iPhone 4S helped Apple close the marketshare gap with Android [nielsen.com] , raising them to 44.5% compared to Android's 46.3% in December, coinciding with an earlier study by the NPD group [gigaom.com] . Apple sold 35 million iPhones [cnet.com] last quarter, with the iPhone 4S making up 57% of those sales. RIM continued its decline but still outsold Windows Phone 7, which came in at a measly 1.6%."
  Link to Original Source [nielsen.com]

Come on bonch, we know it's you, there's no need to post anonymously.

hi, GreatBunzinni! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38744800)

its almost as if you can browse the "recent" section and see what people submitted today!

shouldn't you be off posting more anonymous posts about microsoft shills?

Organized trolling campaign by GreatBunzinni (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38744622)

GreatBunzinni [slashdot.org] has been posting anonymous accusations [slashdot.org] listing a whole bunch of Slashdot accounts as being part of a marketing campaign for Microsoft, without any evidence. GreatBunzinni has accidentally outed himself [slashdot.org] as this anonymous poster. Half the accounts he attacks don't even post pro-Microsoft rhetoric. The one thing they appear to have in common is that they have been critical of Google in the past. GreatBunzinni has been using multiple accounts to post these "shill" accusations, such as Galestar [slashdot.org] , NicknameOne [slashdot.org] , and flurp [slashdot.org] .

That's not the problem. The problem is that moderators gave him +5 Informative and are now modding down the accused, even for legitimate posts. Metamoderation is supposed to address this by filtering out the bad moderators, but clearly it's not working.

This "shill" crap that has been flying around lately has to stop. It's restricting a variety of viewpoints from participating on the site and creating an echo chamber.

Re:Organized trolling campaign by GreatBunzinni (2, Informative)

TheVelvetFlamebait (986083) | more than 2 years ago | (#38744818)

I think you might be confused about the definition of the word "shill".

Shill n. A person who extols opinions and viewpoints that cannot be sufficiently easily refuted by their opponents

I've heard that there is another archaic meaning to this word, but I haven't seen it used in any sense other than the modern sense.

Re:Organized trolling campaign by GreatBunzinni (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38745530)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shill
Take the noun meaning based on this and "verbize" it.

Re:Organized trolling campaign by GreatBunzinni (0)

Luke727 (547923) | more than 2 years ago | (#38745136)

Metamoderation is supposed to address this by filtering out the bad moderators

LOL

Case being handled by the local RCMP (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38744632)

... unfortunately, they couldn't manage to find any fingerprint evidence.

Returns (5, Informative)

Formalin (1945560) | more than 2 years ago | (#38744636)

Still, most electronic products cannot be returned to stores.

Huh? I've never had a problem returning electronics. Software, on the other hand...

Re:Returns (5, Informative)

jschen (1249578) | more than 2 years ago | (#38744656)

Furthermore, the store acknowledges that returned iPads appears to be the way the clay fakes got there in the first place. It says so right in the summary.

Re:Returns (4, Funny)

Nugoo (1794744) | more than 2 years ago | (#38744676)

Not to mention that the product being returned is not electronic.

Re:Returns (4, Funny)

the eric conspiracy (20178) | more than 2 years ago | (#38744768)

Everything except neutronium and vacuum is electronic.

Re:Returns (4, Funny)

Samantha Wright (1324923) | more than 2 years ago | (#38745052)

No wonder the chemical supply company wouldn't accept returns on my shipment of ionized hydrogen...

(In other words, you missed one.)

Re:Returns (5, Funny)

bennomatic (691188) | more than 2 years ago | (#38745362)

(In other words, you missed one.)

Are you positive?

Re:Returns (4, Funny)

Samantha Wright (1324923) | more than 2 years ago | (#38745590)

Ecstatically.

And clay iPads... (5, Funny)

raehl (609729) | more than 2 years ago | (#38745126)

But who says that this is a result of people buying iPads, taking iPads out of box, putting clay in box, resealing and returning?

It could just be 14 associated people bought iPads, then went back and said "Hey, I bought this iPad and all that was in my box was this piece of clay!"

Either way, if you have recently bought an iPad in Canada, and you have some clay around, bring your clay in for a refund!

Re:And clay iPads... (2)

execthis (537150) | more than 2 years ago | (#38745512)

It could also be some art project, like that artist who actually draws hundred dollar bills that look exactly like the real thing but end up being worth far more because of their artistic value.

Still, if it were such a project, it would be dishonest and a form of theft unless they eventually come clean and admit it and offer to compensate the store.

Re:Returns (4, Funny)

ColdWetDog (752185) | more than 2 years ago | (#38744782)

Not to mention that the product being returned is not electronic.

Wait. Hold on for a second. This could be big.

You could sell these to frequent flyers - they don't have to turn them off during takeoff and landing.

Might fly....

Re:Returns (1)

TitusC3v5 (608284) | more than 2 years ago | (#38744836)

Might fly....

Only if you throw them hard enough.

Re:Returns (1)

Formalin (1945560) | more than 2 years ago | (#38744908)

Not likely, I don't think the TSA allows you to have hard items any more.

Re:Returns (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38745108)

It's not my fault! The flight attendants are just too attractive.

Re:Returns (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38745416)

It's not my fault! The flight attendants are just too attractive.

Flight Attendants and attractive dont go together anymore atleast here in the US. Those are things of the past.

Re:Returns (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38745498)

It's not my fault! The flight attendants are just too attractive.

You can travel with it sir; we just have to snap it in two first.

Re:Returns (3, Informative)

danomac (1032160) | more than 2 years ago | (#38744666)

Future Shop specifically will allow returns [futureshop.ca] up to fourteen days after purchase. It doesn not say anything about rejecting a return that's opened.

However, it sounds like the [thieves?] just re-shrinkwrapped it and returned it, so they didn't open it to check.

This news is disturbing, I just bought eight of them for work (although not at one of the listed stores), tomorrow morning first thing I'm going to open them all to make sure they're legit!

Re:Returns (4, Interesting)

Fishead (658061) | more than 2 years ago | (#38744758)

I returned an un-opened set of sockets to Canadian Tire once. The sockets were still in the original shrink wrap, and the clerk cut it open in front of me before she gave me a refund. When I asked her why, she said that they've had people return socket sets full of rocks.

Not surprised really.

Re:Returns (1)

shentino (1139071) | more than 2 years ago | (#38744920)

Sucks to be the victim of a thief who returned garbage and got you stuck with it.

It's like the thief gets away with it and the store doesn't get burned for accepting it.

Re:Returns (3, Insightful)

petermgreen (876956) | more than 2 years ago | (#38745016)

It sucks for the store too. So you get a socket set and find it's full of rocks rather than sockets. You go back and complain. The store has too choices.

1: they assume you are telling the truth. This means they are stuck with the loss and for all they know you may be the one trying to screw them.
2: they accuse you of lying. This means they will likely lose you as a customer and may well get badmouthed all over the internet

Re:Returns (2)

hawguy (1600213) | more than 2 years ago | (#38745114)

I returned an un-opened set of sockets to Canadian Tire once. The sockets were still in the original shrink wrap, and the clerk cut it open in front of me before she gave me a refund. When I asked her why, she said that they've had people return socket sets full of rocks.

Not surprised really.

I returned a car floor jack to Sears once - after I explained to the sales clerk that it was missing a key hinge pin that I didn't notice until I tried to use it and bent several support struts making the jack completely unusable, she put a "Clearance - used" tag on it. I pointed out again that it was broken and she said "uh-huh". I stopped by the next weekend and sure enough, it was sitting on the shelf - with a price marked 20% off. In theory it's fixable if you have the tools to disassemble it and straighten the bent parts (some parts are held together with crimped pins that you'd have to grind or cut off), I can't imagine someone is going to think the $20 they saved on the jack is going to be worth it.

Re:Returns (1)

Xurbax (807126) | more than 2 years ago | (#38744688)

Best Buy and Future Shop have good return policies. They do seem to have some problems with putting returned items back on the shelf as unopened, though... For example, just recently I discovered my Xbox360 I had bought as brand new from FS several years ago is missing it's (behind-the-faceplate) warranty sticker - the most likely explanation being that someone carefully removed it then returned the unit.

Re:Returns (1)

PRMan (959735) | more than 2 years ago | (#38744730)

I always wondered why Fry's Electronics opens shrink-wrapped products when you return them new. Of course, they will put stuff that you specifically returned as broken back on the shelf with a "Don't Buy Me" sticker.

Re:Returns (1)

Gregg Alan (8487) | more than 2 years ago | (#38744798)

Wait... who's putting that sticker on? You or the store?

Re:Returns (1)

jjjhs (2009156) | more than 2 years ago | (#38744970)

Fry's puts a big sticker on the front for returned items with a new lower price. It usually isn't much lower than an unopened item, maybe a couple bucks lower.

Re:Returns (1)

MBGMorden (803437) | more than 2 years ago | (#38745086)

Better than Wal-mart. They just throw it up for the same price as new - often with packaging tape holding together the chopped up clamshell packaging.

It's particularly bad trying to buy a universal remote. Almost ALL of them are opened returns. Idiots buy them not understanding that they have to be programmed. They try them, find out they don't work out of the box (duh), assume its BROKEN, and so they take it back, then get another one, and repeat this cycle a few times.

Personally I don't think a store should legally be able to sell anything that's been opened and returned as a new product.

Re:Returns (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38745300)

You deserve what you get when you shop at wal-mart.

Re:Returns (4, Informative)

perpenso (1613749) | more than 2 years ago | (#38744984)

He was being sarcastic. The sticker says something like "returned product" and displays a modestly lowered price. The interpretation by customers is often "do not buy".

Re:Returns (1)

Crudely_Indecent (739699) | more than 2 years ago | (#38744776)

What bothers me is:

Still, most electronic products cannot be returned to stores

followed by:

...individuals bought the iPads with cash...then returned the packages to the stores

So, which is it?

Re:Returns (1)

LingNoi (1066278) | more than 2 years ago | (#38745540)

Most electronic products. Specifically the iPads were returned. The writer is making people aware of the potential danger not that it happened in this instance.

Re:Returns (1)

stephanruby (542433) | more than 2 years ago | (#38745180)

And in other news, the X-ray apps on the iPhone are seeing skyrocketing sales, as shrewd Canadian consumers learn to X-ray their shrink-wrapped iPad boxes before taking them to the checkout.

Hammurabi (2)

vaene (1981644) | more than 2 years ago | (#38744684)

Maybe apple is trying to introduce its new cuneiform based programming language to the Canadians first!

Jeezus Editors! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38744702)

"thought they were getting and iPad 2" how about AN iPad2?

future Shop is best buy and they don't test retrun (4, Insightful)

Joe_Dragon (2206452) | more than 2 years ago | (#38744708)

They don't have real techs only sales people.

They used to have real techs but they where passed over for people who can sell and up sell / rip people off no you don't need the laptop setup, $100 HDMI cable or that $30 USB cable. But the people who do push that carp get more hours then the people who know what they are doing and tell people that on line you can find much cheaper cables that are just as good.

Re:future Shop is best buy and they don't test ret (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38744822)

First off- sellint the cheaper stuff your store sells. Not so bad. Selling the stuff you can buy online? No wonder you aren't on the payroll. I run my own tech company and we 'rip people off' according to you. I'm not going to say we sell $100 HDMI cable that costs $1 to make. However we do charge 20x the price of some items. This is a business after all and I have no problems doing it. I don't advise people to get the i7. I do advise most people to get Atom systems and charge them plenty Possibly more than best buy. However we also provide better service and software (not that propritary crap).

Re:future Shop is best buy and they don't test ret (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38745514)

Your argument is unconvincing. Just say "we charge a premium for the convenience of brick and mortar instant gratification" and be done with it. Bonus points: "Unlike Amazon, we have a physical retail location and have to keep the lights on."

"This is a business after all" sounds like the dipshits selling water for $100 a case to 9-11 first responders. 20x markup is bullshit. Your industry is predatory and will eventually die when all the people too stuck in their brick and mortar ways to use Amazon of fdisk die off.

Computer shops are universally a rip-off run by people too stupid to understand the economics of a reformat vs. registry hacking malware removal orgy, or too cynical to explain as much to the customer. Every other service they provide is better provided by Radioshack.

Your counter-argument is "our customers would throw away their computer and buy a new one if we/Geek Squad didn't exist" and I would argue they would be getting a better value.

Re:future Shop is best buy and they don't test ret (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38744840)

I used to work at Futureshop.

They definitively 100% care more about ramming a 30$ printer cable down your throat with a $60 printer then they do about customer service. Everything about their training program is designed to make you seem friendly and build customer trust right before you start hitting them over the head with the extended warranties and Monster cables.

I once got pulled into the managers office for a compliment from a customer. I sold him a Ben-Q burner that was cheaper and better then the Sony equivalent (which cost $100 more and was slower), and said so plainly when I did it. After I rang up the burner he asked to talk to the supervisor, so I paged him up to the counter where the customer proceeded to tell him how awesome of a salesman I was for saving him that money and ultimately deciding to sell him WHAT HE NEEDED rather then what could have potentially made us the most money (we got massive kickbacks on the Sony shit).

The moment the customer walked out of the store, my ass got hauled into the store manager's office and shafted like you wouldn't believe. No extended warranty this. No accessories that (accessories? like a $35 IDE cable?). Suddenly my good-to-great rating numbers are shit and they're threatening to can my ass if I don't start playing scum-ball with the customers, like everyone of their other salesmen.

I quit 2 weeks later. I only ever applied there to help people with technical shit, and I couldn't even do that.

-AC

Re:future Shop is best buy and they don't test ret (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38745246)

Well, I also once worked at Future Shop. In one year I made it from warehouse helper to merchandiser to #2 salesman in the Computer Department (That was when we all waited to get the first Pentium class PC's in). I was the #2 salesperson because I took my time with the customers and told them to call me at the store if they have any questions about the product. Sure enough, a few months into this I got hauled into the managers office, told I was not selling enough extended warranties and that I spend too much time on the phone helping clients. Then he went on to tell me that I can be the #1 salesman and that I have 2 months to reach that goal (or else?).

Here is the thing: Back then I made $40 in commission on a $2000 DELL system and $60 on a $149 extended warranty. Well, who would pay to extend a three year warranty to 4 years for a PC that will be obsolete by then? I never bothered to push on that. $14 printer cables had a cost of $1 and my commission would have been $5 on it.

So you see where the incentives are. Forget customer service, expect you wallet to be raped.

I still shop at Future Shop, but I research what I want online, find out the SKU and walk into FS, grab a salesperson, give them the SKU, pay and leave.

Re:future Shop is best buy and they don't test ret (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38745562)

Posting anonymously because my Aunt works for Future Shop.

I have a similar story from the customer side. Bought my sister a nice all in one 5 disc CD stereo with cassette back in the days when such things were not cheap, because my aunt worked there I got a slight discount. Two weeks after Christmas it broke. The Radio and cassettes were fine but the CD's wouldn't play, figure it was within the month so back to the store for a replacement right?

Wrong, they made me send it for warranty repair.

So I sent it off for repairs again and again over the course of the next year. It was obvious it was a defective unit, it had been repaired a half a dozen times in the first nine months and it was getting ridiculous; I got to know the manager by name I'd talked to him so much. The answer was the same every time, warranty repair. It didn't matter that my aunt worked there and that she was kind of high up the chain, she couldn't override the directive from corporate and she was just as stuck as I was.

Finally got it back the last time and it went for 3 whole months before it broke again, four days after the warranty expired. I was livid, my aunt was livid. She took me down there personally and really threw her seniority and position around, basically putting her neck out for me and damn near losing her job over it. They begrudgingly gave me a new stereo, a cheaper model with a three disc changer that sounded like crap, and made it abundantly clear that the only reason they were doing this outside of warranty was because my aunt worked for them and that if there were any problems with unit I had to deal with the manufacturer directly.

I should have fought to have a comparable unit, I had the one I wanted all picked out, but I didn't want my aunt getting in to anymore trouble so I talked it over with my sister and we both agreed to just let it go. Surprisingly the stereo lasted her 10 years, she accidentally dropped it during a move otherwise she'd still have it, and never had a single problem with it.

But I learned a valuable lesson that day. Future Shop is great for CDs and DVDs and the odd game, but I will never buy a single piece of electronics from them that costs more than seventy five bucks because if it breaks I've effectively lost that money.

Re:future Shop is best buy and they don't test ret (1)

Formalin (1945560) | more than 2 years ago | (#38744870)

They don't even need real techs, the inspection doesn't have to be done in house... although that might make things more effective depending on the volume of returns.

I returned a router to staples the other day (It was working, I just wasn't pleased with the software on it / performance). The girl asked me what was wrong with it, and I explained that; however a co-worker said it doesn't matter what's wrong with it, it has to 'go back' anyway, just write down 'dead'. Whether 'back' is to some distribution office where knowledgeable people inspect things, or more likely, back to the manufacturer to reflash it, I don't know.

Anyway, had they just slapped it on the shelf, the next buyer would have been in trouble, seeing as the IP and password was no longer the default...

Advice from above ("upstairs") (4, Insightful)

wrencherd (865833) | more than 2 years ago | (#38744712)

Mom always said that you should look inside the box before buying anything.

Re:Advice from above ("upstairs") (2)

Archangel Michael (180766) | more than 2 years ago | (#38744770)

In the days of old when knights were bold ... they called it "don't buy a pig in a poke".

Re:Advice from above ("upstairs") (4, Interesting)

wisty (1335733) | more than 2 years ago | (#38745112)

Note: a "poke" is a bag. Apparently, people would sell a cat in a bag, and tell you it was a baby pig (which you could then fatten up). If you "let the cat out of the bag", you were showing everyone what a fraud the merchant was.

See http://xkcd.com/325/ [xkcd.com] (when the SOPA blackout ends).

Re:Advice from above ("upstairs") (1)

cyn1c77 (928549) | more than 2 years ago | (#38744936)

It's hard to do that nowadays with Apple's packaging and the store's anti-theft procedures! They basically unlock the iPad for you and then escort you to the purchase counter.

Re:Advice from above ("upstairs") (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38745106)

Alright then you open after purchasing before leaving the store to check on it, Apple's packaging is in no way preventing you from doing that---but you knew that, I'm sure you're an intelligent person who could have figured that out on their own. I think you just like complaining about Apple because it's the hipster thing to do.

Re:Advice from above ("upstairs") (2)

fermion (181285) | more than 2 years ago | (#38745456)

And you should look in the box before accepting a return. These rules seem to be followed at the apple store, as the salespeople want to open the box so they can setup(minimize returns?) but elsewhere neither is likely to happen.

A game some people I knew when I was younger was to figure new ways to rip Walmart off. They would buy a car radio, install in the car, and attempt to return the box with the old radio in it. Managed to work pretty well. A safer scheme was to use a razor blade to cut the plastic and take a cd out of the case and then return it. I can imagine that if I were being paid minimum wage it would not be worth my time to make sure returns were valid. I know that if one accepts a job, one has a moral responsibility to do the best one can, but hey, managers don't work for minimum wage. The rules of world are accepted.

This to me says buy from reputable firms. There are always cheaper prices, or more convenient locations, but the truth is we still have to pay for service and reputation, which is another thing our parents told us, at least if we are of a certain age. Younger people were probably told they had inherent rights to huge amounts of toys, and the purpose of life to accumulate as many toys by any means necessary.

Re:Advice from above ("upstairs") (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38745544)

You sound like a tired old man, fermion.

Missing the obvious (1)

ender- (42944) | more than 2 years ago | (#38744728)

Really? Nobody has made the "clay tablets" joke yet? You people are slipping!

Re:Who's missing the obvious? (3, Informative)

phantomfive (622387) | more than 2 years ago | (#38744754)

Except this one from the summary:

But there's no mistaking the iPad for one of the world's oldest 'tablet devices.'

The real story is someone actually bought an IPad (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38744734)

What a worthless piece of garbage. With all the superior competing products, you would think anyone with an ounce of brain cells would realize they can get something that does more for a quarter of the price. I shouldn't be surprised though that uninformed sheeple throw their money away on shiny paperweights. I weep for this country.

Only excuse is laziness... (4, Insightful)

aXis100 (690904) | more than 2 years ago | (#38744742)

The staff should have been checking the boxes upon return, to make sure that everything was OK. Add to that, they should have definitely been checked before outting them back on the shelves for other poeple to buy! It's either useless staff or really sloppy company policy.

Re:Only excuse is laziness... (2)

JimWise (1804930) | more than 2 years ago | (#38744874)

And what were they supposed to do? It was (as far as they could tell) still in the original shrink wrap, and weighed the same as a box containing a true iPad.

Re:Only excuse is laziness... (1)

sjames (1099) | more than 2 years ago | (#38745312)

Given that this isn't the first time someone has pulled a scam like this, they should have opened the package.

Re:Only excuse is laziness... (2)

wvmarle (1070040) | more than 2 years ago | (#38745066)

From the summary & article I understand that the boxes look like they had not been opened before returning to the shop. So the staff in the shop had no reason to believe it had been tampered with.

When customer returns an unopened product, they can just restock it and sell it to someone else instead. Yet when the staff opens the as-yet unopened product for checking, they may not be able to sell it at full price again. So there is a clear incentive for staff not to open an as-yet unopened product.

Re:Only excuse is laziness... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38745396)

It's either useless staff or really sloppy company policy.

I think the former is a result of the latter. Sloppy staff is always the result of bad management, just like an excellent staff is the result of excellent management.

Re:Only excuse is laziness... (1)

ArundelCastle (1581543) | more than 2 years ago | (#38745448)

The staff should have been checking the boxes upon return, to make sure that everything was OK. Add to that, they should have definitely been checked before outting them back on the shelves for other poeple to buy! It's either useless staff or really sloppy company policy.

Reminds me of the time I bought an electric shaver at London Drugs a couple years ago. Got it home, turned it on, then found out it was used. Well used. It was a return.
People are fuckers. There's no single person to blame anymore.

Re:Only excuse is laziness... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38745488)

I returned an electric shaver. Used it once to shave my head, decided I didn't like it and put it neatly back in the box. When the CS lady asked if I had used it, I said "nope". (as i'm standing there with an almost bald head)

Sounds like (1)

SYSS Mouse (694626) | more than 2 years ago | (#38744760)

2012 B.C.

shelve (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38744772)

I would of written shelve, to!

Re:shelve (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38744892)

Well then you should have submitted the the[sic] story.

Obligatory joke: "New Adobe Tablets"!!!!!!! (5, Funny)

cangrande (199946) | more than 2 years ago | (#38744790)

Yeah, I stole it from the comments over at the article source. Too good not to share.

Re:Obligatory joke: "New Adobe Tablets"!!!!!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38745398)

Wonder if any of the customers were named "Moses"?

surprisingly (2, Funny)

koan (80826) | more than 2 years ago | (#38744804)

The battery life was better.

Re:surprisingly (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38744904)

LOL, I see what you did there, by insulting the iPad and all. ANDROID RULES!!!!!1

Re:surprisingly (1)

hawguy (1600213) | more than 2 years ago | (#38745172)

LOL, I see what you did there, by insulting the iPad and all. ANDROID RULES!!!!!1

That's hardly an iPad insult since it applies equally well to any tablet. Relax, not everyone is trying to make fun of your iPad.

Re:surprisingly (1)

wvmarle (1070040) | more than 2 years ago | (#38745072)

You're talking about the battery life of the real thing I assume?

The battery of the fake sounds pretty dead to me.

EULA (2, Funny)

digitalderbs (718388) | more than 2 years ago | (#38744862)

Thankfully, the EULA's short and easy with only 10 items, but it still has you signing over your life.

AND THEY SOLD OUT ANYWAY !! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38744900)

That's Quagmire !!

Which is why used should only be sold as refurbs (1)

msobkow (48369) | more than 2 years ago | (#38744916)

This is precisely why packages should only be sold as refurbished and/or repaired items, not full-price "new" items. You never know why a device was really returned -- it should ALWAYS be opened to inspect the contents and verify that there are no missing parts or pieces.

I blame the stores for a bad process designed to maximize profits.

Re:Which is why used should only be sold as refurb (1)

wvmarle (1070040) | more than 2 years ago | (#38745080)

Read TFA. The packing was, from the face of it, not opened. This product was returned as if it were unused.

Or do they have this totally backward.... (1)

ikedasquid (1177957) | more than 2 years ago | (#38744966)

1. Get 10 people together, everyone buy an iPad on the same day (maybe over 2 days). 2. Take the iPads home, remove iPads, replace with clay. 3. Return the iPads claiming you found clay in the box when you bought it. 4. Receive new iPads, sell on eBay. Same net effect, 10 iPads. But this way you don't have to try and reseal the box in a convincing way, and you don't have to get the store clerk to take back a box of clay.

Re:Or do they have this totally backward.... (1)

John Meacham (1112) | more than 2 years ago | (#38745046)

However they can tell by the serial number whether that iPad is fresh from the factory or restocked after a return.

It would be odd if 10 iPads shipped in different shipments, some used and returned without the customer before claiming it was made of clay all happend to be returned for being made of clay at once.

Re:Or do they have this totally backward.... (1)

digitallife (805599) | more than 2 years ago | (#38745074)

You wish.
The reality is that they will call you a scammer and not give you a refund, exactly as they did to the guy in the article (until he went to the press with it).

The reason these stores don't crack the packaging and check to make sure it's legit is because it costs them money to do so. It's far easier to simply accept the returned item easily (good PR), toss it back on the shelf and sell it again (minimize cost and loss), and blame it on the person who really gets screwed later. They'll only stop doing this when they get enough bad press on it.

What get's me... (1)

bgibby9 (614547) | more than 2 years ago | (#38745028)

Is that "The returned fakes were restocked on the shelve and sold to new, unwitting customers". How'd that logic go?

Customer: I paid for an iPad and got some clay
Clerk: Ok thanks. I'll just put that back on the shelf

Re:What get's me... (1)

debest (471937) | more than 2 years ago | (#38745240)

1. Crook buys real iPad with cash.
2. Crook takes iPad, replaces clay in box, re-seals box to appear unopened.
3. Crook returns new-looking tainted box, receives cash from store.
4. Tainted box returned to shelf.
5. Innocent buys tainted box
6. Innocent discovers clay, goes back to store.
7. Store stuck with clay and packaging.

The sentence you quoted was for Steps 3-4, not 6-7.

Don't give Dick Smith (Australia) customers ideas (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38745076)

http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2011/12/selling-refurbished-goods-as-new-may-be-common-among-australian-retailers/

Serves them right! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38745078)

Simply put: it serves these people right for buying apple products! Short and sweet.

most electronic products cannot be returned? (1)

Vrtigo1 (1303147) | more than 2 years ago | (#38745144)

Where is the OP getting his information? Nearly every major retailer in the US allows you to return iPads. They may shorten the amount of time in which they can be returned from the normal return period, but that's not even close to the same thing. For example, Best Buy gives you 14 days to return an iPad. I purchased an iPad 1 from BB a few days before Apple announced the iPad 2, so I took it back and had no trouble at all. I didn't purchase any special investment protection or warranty programs either.

Future Shop is sad? :( (1)

commisaro (1007549) | more than 2 years ago | (#38745156)

"It really saddens Future Shop that people stoop to be this opportunistic and make money in this kind of organized way."

Poor Future Shop. The thieves made it sad :( Seriously, though. This whole "corporations as people" thing has gone too far...

Tech support? (5, Funny)

PPH (736903) | more than 2 years ago | (#38745208)

Hello. I think my iPad has been bricked.

Lazy Scam! (1)

nathan s (719490) | more than 2 years ago | (#38745232)

Am I the only one disappointed that they didn't even scratch the outline of the thing onto the modelling clay? Damn, scammers are lazy these days. I was hoping to see something painted to look like an iPad, but obviously I expect too much from today's con artists.

Serial # on the box... (5, Interesting)

LittlePud (1356157) | more than 2 years ago | (#38745262)

Couldn't they trace the serial number on the returned box, match that up to the iTunes account used to activate the missing iPad, and nail the perps that way?

Re:Serial # on the box... (3, Insightful)

fluffy99 (870997) | more than 2 years ago | (#38745392)

Couldn't they trace the serial number on the returned box, match that up to the iTunes account used to activate the missing iPad, and nail the perps that way?

More than likely they'd nail someone who bought it off eBay.

Re:Serial # on the box... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38745496)

It's illegal to accept stolen property, knowingly or not.

Re:Serial # on the box... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38745508)

Then there'd still be a paper trail. The people buying it off eBay most likely transferred money to someone else, whom is likely a crook.

Also, the people buying it on eBay bought it without original packaging, and in some places that's enough that the buyer should have expected that it was stolen goods, and in these cases it would be illegal for them to purchase it.

Of course, the thieves could have kept the reciepts they got when they purchased the ipads, which would make it more difficult to accuse the eBay buyers.

Outsourced manufacturing? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38745272)

Elbonian made iPad?

Now I know why Fry's (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38745350)

insists on opening sealed boxes when I return things. Because of these scumbags. Just amazing.

No surprise, here... (1)

Krokus (88121) | more than 2 years ago | (#38745354)

This doesn't surprise me one bit. People have been buying expensive equipment at Home Depot, such as compressors or generators, using it for a day for the one task they needed it for, and then returning it for a full refund. Or buying something at Home Depot, taking it home or just out to their car, removing the replacement parts they needed, and returning what's left for a full refund, hoping the staff don't conduct a part inventory of the box contents (which they seem to almost never do).

I've seen a brand new compressor out of the box at Home Depot with *mud* caked on the wheels, and I've lost count of the number of times I've bought something there only to get it home and realise that parts are missing from the box.

Frankly, I'm surprised this thing with the iPads didn't start happening a long time ago. People are ugly.

iDreidel (1)

l0ungeb0y (442022) | more than 2 years ago | (#38745452)

These weren't fakes -- they were iPad shaped dreidels

Should be easy enough to track down (1)

BlueCoder (223005) | more than 2 years ago | (#38745454)

Undoubtedly knowing apple each tablet has to have a hardware id/serial number. They will undoubtedly be able to deduce the ipad id's from the boxes. Then just track down the missing iPads and find out who sold it to them. Just follow the money. I would also wonder if the tablets/packages had any fingerprints.

Really no cause for return (2)

SuperKendall (25149) | more than 2 years ago | (#38745510)

Come on, you DID get a tablet.

You didn't see Moses returning his now did you?

Flintstones (1)

Tablizer (95088) | more than 2 years ago | (#38745574)

They are not "fake", just old-school....really old school.

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