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Anonymous Takes Down DOJ, RIAA, MPA and Universal Music

samzenpus posted more than 2 years ago | from the pay-back dept.

Crime 649

First time accepted submitter EW87 writes "Shortly after a federal raid today brought down the file sharing service Megaupload, hackers aligned with the online collective Anonymous have shut down sites for the Department of Justice, Universal Music Group and the RIAA. 'It was in retaliation for Megaupload, as was the concurrent attack on Justice.org,' Anonymous operative Barrett Brown tells RT on Thursday afternoon."

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wow (2, Funny)

dnahelicase (1594971) | more than 2 years ago | (#38754620)

it's begun!

Re:wow (3, Funny)

drwj01 (1695256) | more than 2 years ago | (#38754676)

You mean, "begun the clone wars have." I wonder if this is going to be the first of many instant responses to actions like this.

Re:wow (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38754694)

And David Cameron's just called for more worker control of the means of production.

Gentlemen, gather your breadcrumbs and pretend you have a slice of control! If that fails, a distributed nipping at the heels will do!

Re:wow (3, Insightful)

thePowerOfGrayskull (905905) | more than 2 years ago | (#38754698)

Please define "it" for the rest of us. Because to most, "it" appears to be "anything that the people of anonymous take a fancy to this week".

Re:wow (5, Funny)

Mashiki (184564) | more than 2 years ago | (#38754760)

Yeah that's my thought. To be honest, if anonymous thought that jamming turkey basters in their dicks would stop scientology they would probably do it. Then rave about how it worked, while posting pictures.

A new meme would be started, and Goatse.cx would have a new challenger.

Re:wow (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38754848)

Project Mayhem.

Re:wow (5, Insightful)

dnahelicase (1594971) | more than 2 years ago | (#38755116)

"it" = the next wave of the "we are stopping piracy in defense of America" vs "screw you guys - you aren't as good as us - we'll take down your site to prove it"

The same war everyone has been having since Napster. These takedowns won't stop piracy. Site takedowns won't cause any harm to the lobbying organizations. Both sides will use the acts to fuel their respective fires.

In the end, the internet gets less open - the industry loses out on innovation because they are fighting - and the "costs of war" mean nobody wins.

However, it doesn't seem like the real pirates or the music/movie industry loses either - just the general population.

Re:wow (5, Informative)

John Courtland (585609) | more than 2 years ago | (#38755236)

If there's a constant in this whole shitstorm mess it's that the clear winners are the lawyers.

Re:wow (5, Interesting)

genjix (959457) | more than 2 years ago | (#38754950)

Do not stand for this flagrant abuse of our farcical democracy!

Megaupload has been forcibly closed by the FBI. In a sickening undermining of the people’s will, they are making an example out of an historic, legitimate, useful and well-known website. This is a prophetic glimmer of the coming war against pure free speech- the internet.

This happened once before. Here in the UK, the IWF (Internet Watch Foundation) is a censoring system for the internet. In 1996, the Metropolitan Police started requesting the banning of illegal content by ISPs in the UK. With veiled sly threats they asked that ISPs engage in ‘self-enforcement’ rather than forcing them to enforce the law on them.

Most of the ISPs complied except Demon internet. Demon was a British ISP that contributed to the Open Source community, ran several IRC servers and were pioneers of their time. They objected on the grounds of it being “unacceptable censorship”. A few days later, a tabloid expose appeared in the Observer newspaper alleging that the director of Demon was supplying paedophiles with photographs of children being sexually abused.

Then the police let it be known that during that summer, they were planning a crack-down on an unspecified ISP as a test-case (translation: making an example of them). Between the threats and pressure, the IWF was formed- a supposedly voluntary organisation but in fact a fake-charity and a quango. The IWF is a disgraceful secretive group with an awful corrupt history and no public oversight.

Now we see the same tactic has been used against Megaupload. They are using the threat of violence to coerce companies, how the British police did to create their own laws. The SOPA legislation did not go their way, so they have resulted to immoral tactics of repression.

From ACTA which is decided behind closed European chambers, the DEA which was pushed through undemocratically at alarming speed before elections, evil La Hadopi and now SOPA/PIPA in the US, there is nowhere to run. The nepotists are determined to push through these legislation. At all costs. This is not about piracy- it never was and will not do a thing. It is about control.

We have built a tool. For all their false talk of democracy we have for the first time in history reached this epochal moment. Self determination. If they truly believed in democracy, we could have a direct-democracy tomorrow. The tools exist. Instead we see this flagrant deception. It has become acceptable for politicians to cater to the greatest common denominator. We let them off the hook on the truth like Cameron pretending to be pro-NHS or Obama pretending to be Christian because it is for voters. Since when did it become acceptable to lie! Now today we see this limp-wristed hand wringing by the US president about how he will veto SOPA. Oh shut up.

Was it Gordan Brown who said that voting levels were dangerously low in the below-30s because youngsters today are apolitical. He wanted mandatory attendance for voters. No, we are not apolitical, we are sick of your lies and deceit. This generation is probably more political than any generation in history. In the 80s, only 5% of people in the US were members of organisations. In the 90s, 70% of Americans belonged to some kind of organisation. People are mobilising and prescient of issues.

Libel law is atrociously bad in the UK. Payouts are 10 times greater than in main-land Europe and you get a situation where billionaires use law firms like Carter-Ruck to keep news publishers (which are poor) in court and bleed them dry. Time magazine did an undercover piece of reporting and was sued for libel. They won the case but it ended up costing them $1 million. That’s effectively a fine of $1 million for undercover journalism.

Of course when the law is broken, what do we do? Make more laws! That is why California has brought in anti-SLAPP legislation.

Patent law is so stupid and I won’t even go there.

Copyright is fascist. I find it revolting that we are creating this artificial scarcity where there is none. Everyone could have the Alexandrian library in their back-pocket. It is not the responsibility of these new models to bail out the old ones. The wealth of world knowledge harnessed by parasites.

The biggest copyright lobbyists have their own origins in the bootleg and parody industries. Fox moved west to escape litigious action by Edison’s copyrights. Disney’s original Mickey Mouse cartoons were rip-offs of The Jazz Singer and Buster Keaton’s Steamboat Bill Jr. In fact nearly ever Disney film is a rip-off from popular culture: Mulan, Cinderella, Jungle Book, Little Mermaid, Tarzan, Yet the constant copyright extensions right before it expires for Mickey Mouse has become a twisted joke- termed the Mickey Mouse Copyright Extensions.

Copyright’s own origin is in the 1700s when the English protectorate wanted to protect London publishers from Scottish ones who were printing public domain work. It was a monopolistic law. How then has society somehow brainwashed itself into believing they are anything but? We have the copyright owners for “I have a dream” issuing DMCA takedowns against websites. This is an important historical document- how can copyright be encouraging artists to create when they are DEAD.

This does not have much to do with bitcoin, but I am mad. This free-speech infringement feels so odious and Machiavellian that you cannot stand it, and the only way to stop the machine is to throw yourself under the tracks. The vox populi means nothing under the false pretense of ‘protecting artists’.

If downloading child pornography supports child pornographers how can downloading music destroy the music industry?

Re:wow (5, Funny)

dangitman (862676) | more than 2 years ago | (#38755040)

Do not stand for this flagrant abuse of our farcical democracy!

If it's farcical, then surely abuse of it isn't a big deal? Kind of like making fun of a clown.

Re:wow (1, Interesting)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 2 years ago | (#38755132)

Do not stand for this flagrant abuse of our farcical democracy!

If it's farcical, then surely abuse of it isn't a big deal? Kind of like making fun of a clown.

It's not like MegaUpload was some kind of charity ... CEO seemed to be making money hand-over-fist. Just another side of the Machine, from my perspective.

Re:wow (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38755166)

...not if they are psychopathic killer clowns.

What's begun? (4, Insightful)

rsilvergun (571051) | more than 2 years ago | (#38755226)

not to put a damper on things, but how does this really hurt any of these groups? I might be able to buy something on Universal Music, but I'm not very likely too. The other sites are just business portals. All Anonymous really did was mildly inconvenience some low level employees trying to log into their corporate intranet. Meanwhile MegaUpload's still down and the owner's still facing criminal charges and decades in prison...

Justice down? I think not. (5, Insightful)

pseudorand (603231) | more than 2 years ago | (#38754624)

Justice down? Sounds like Justice is alive and well to me.

Re:Justice down? I think not. (3, Insightful)

tmosley (996283) | more than 2 years ago | (#38754764)

Just barely. The boys in Congress are tag teaming her with the MAFIAA boys and the executive branch.

Re:Justice down? I think not. (5, Insightful)

Dan667 (564390) | more than 2 years ago | (#38755144)

Why? Did the Feds finally crack down on Hollywood Accounting?

Re:Justice down? I think not. (3, Insightful)

Threni (635302) | more than 2 years ago | (#38755156)

"Justice, though, is at best one of those words that make us look away or turn up our coat collars" - JD Salinger.

Wow. They did dare! (5, Insightful)

godrik (1287354) | more than 2 years ago | (#38754644)

I guess the war has now begun. Taking down the department of justice is a clear start of all hostility. I am not sure I agree with them. But they have stuff in their pants!

Re:Wow. They did dare! (5, Funny)

DesScorp (410532) | more than 2 years ago | (#38754704)

I guess the war has now begun. Taking down the department of justice is a clear start of all hostility. I am not sure I agree with them. But they have stuff in their pants!

And when they're in prison, they're going to have stuff in the other side.

Re:Wow. They did dare! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38754768)

I guess the war has now begun. Taking down the department of justice is a clear start of all hostility. I am not sure I agree with them. But they have stuff in their pants!

And when they're in prison, they're going to have stuff in the other side.

Yeah, hackers who take down the DoJ site have NO way of covering their tracks. LULZ!!!

good luck (3, Insightful)

unity100 (970058) | more than 2 years ago | (#38754846)

taking the immense botnets' masters and very, very elite hackers that reside in russia and china out, without world war iii.

Re:good luck (1)

Bucky24 (1943328) | more than 2 years ago | (#38755248)

Well, considering how they got the NZ government to arrest some people just by asking, I don't think that will be so difficult, assuming they can find the hackers of course.

Re:Wow. They did dare! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38754750)

The DOJ's website, not 'the DOJ'. Also, they've done this before...

Re:Wow. They did dare! (2)

Literaphile (927079) | more than 2 years ago | (#38754860)

Wow, they took down websites... good for them. Last time I checked, none of those organizations actually rely on those websites. Take down the DoJ site with a childish attack? Sure, go for it. But it's not like that will actually affect the day-to-day operations of the department itself.

Re:Wow. They did dare! (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38754920)

Yeah but the DOJ look like complete idiots if they can't defend their silly site against such a 'childish' attack

Re:Wow. They did dare! (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38755114)

"Look like complete idiots"... to who? Kids on forums like you? Grownups will condemn these silly DDOS attacks (if they understand them at all), and it does not help any cause... and to people who actually understand network infrastructure (capacity planning, attack mitigation)? They know this shit can happen to anyone, even precious Google. It doesn't make anybody "look like complete idiots", it's just angry children with botnets who want attention.

Re:Wow. They did dare! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38755104)

In their pants, perhaps. In their heads, increasingly unlikely...

Re:Wow. They did dare! (5, Funny)

sdguero (1112795) | more than 2 years ago | (#38755178)

If I had tekn down the DOJ website I'd have stuff in my pants too. It'd be brown and stinky.

Can't help but think (5, Insightful)

chadenright (1344231) | more than 2 years ago | (#38754664)

With friends like that for the cause of freedom of the internet, who needs enemies? I have to think that they just -increased- the odds of draconian legislation being passed to help contain outbreaks just like this.

Re:Can't help but think (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38754738)

The MAFIAA is breaking international law for self-interest. This is a war already.

Re:Can't help but think (4, Insightful)

chadenright (1344231) | more than 2 years ago | (#38754898)

If you want a war, stop tearing down posters [xkcd.com] and talking big.

Re:Can't help but think (5, Insightful)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 2 years ago | (#38754752)

With friends like that for the cause of freedom of the internet, who needs enemies? I have to think that they just -increased- the odds of draconian legislation being passed to help contain outbreaks just like this.

Reminds me of a line from a Douglas Adams book, referencing the distant rumble of a passed storm - leaving the impression of a man muttering "and another thing", who lost an argument 20 minutes ago. Yeah, this is a pretty poor grumble, nothing to match the heroics of Wikipedia, Wired, Google, et all who took on SOPA/PIPA in a constructive manner.

Re:Can't help but think (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38754936)

The storm had now definitely abated, and what thunder there was now grumbled over more distant hills, like a man saying "And another thingâ¦" twenty minutes after admitting he's lost the argument.

Despite being the sixth book in the increasingly inaccurately named Hitchhiker's trilogy it was written by Eoin Colfer, not the late, great Douglas Noel Adams.

Re:Can't help but think (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38755046)

Yes, but the line he quoted was from one Adams' books. Not 100% sure off the top of my head, but I think it was the third one.

Re:Can't help but think (1)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 2 years ago | (#38755182)

Yes, but the line he quoted was from one Adams' books. Not 100% sure off the top of my head, but I think it was the third one.

From So Long And Thanks For All The Fish.

I remember the phrase because it has such a true feel to it - probably because I've either been that man or heard that thunder at various times in my life.

Re:Can't help but think (4, Insightful)

alendit (1454311) | more than 2 years ago | (#38754854)

All those people who dare opposing unjust laws! They are just provoking an unreasonable response! The world would have been a much better place if that Rosa Parks had just sat in the back of the bus, like she was told.

Re:Can't help but think (1)

antifoidulus (807088) | more than 2 years ago | (#38755218)

Um, your analogy is flawed, this would be akin to Rosa Parks beating the shit out of the bus driver after telling her to sit in the back of the bus. Somehow I doubt that would have evoked the same reaction as her protest did

Re:Can't help but think (1)

Entrope (68843) | more than 2 years ago | (#38755240)

If you order protest methodologies from most convincing to least convincing, denial-of-service is pretty far down the list. It doesn't even have the virtue of standing on its own as a statement.

Re:Can't help but think (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38754882)

Apologies for the implicit Godwin call, but the same arguments were called out to the French resistance during WWII. You know that destroying one of their staff cars will only result in them rounding up more people and shooting them.

Re:Can't help but think (5, Insightful)

houghi (78078) | more than 2 years ago | (#38754888)

If you believe that you can win by doing things in an orderly fashion, then you have not been paying attention to politics in the last 30 years.

Re:Can't help but think (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38755002)

If you believe that you can win by doing things in an orderly fashion, then you have not been paying attention to politics in the last 30 years.

Thank you for saying that.

Re:Can't help but think (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38755222)

Hell, this country exists because the British generals insisted on doing things in an orderly fashion.

Re:Can't help but think (3)

bky1701 (979071) | more than 2 years ago | (#38754904)

I bet you would have complained about sit-ins in the civil rights era.

Re:Can't help but think (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38754910)

Though the mischievous side of me loves seeing this type of retaliation against "the powers that be", I can't help but think this will not fare well for anyone.
Gov/Mafiaas - "Oh Look! See? Those nasty "hackers" are mad because we shut this site down. The site MUST be bad...Freedom wins!"

Or, conspiracy theory side "Oh, the 'internet' is mad we're trying to pass this bill...just wait until after the blackout day".
(C'mon, you can't say you didn't think the timing of this was 'off')

Revolutions have brought about good change in many venues for thousands of years.
Unfortunately, some have brought bad.
It is my belief, though I enjoy many of Anonymous' actions, they will not fare well.

and really. (5, Insightful)

unity100 (970058) | more than 2 years ago | (#38754940)

you think that, if they havent done that, no crap like sopa pipa schmogga would be out ?

there werent any such hacktivism back in 2005. and yet, they popped out the attack on network neutrality at that year. apparently they have been cooking it since 2-3 years. and also the rumors of acta starting came out that year. so, it was probably underway from a while ago, but noone knew.

wake up. this is a war, and they treat you as their enemy. they were BENT to do these, to implement censorship, REGARDLESS of what you did.

you havent engaged in any acts of terrorism. neither your neighbors. in fact, there hasnt been any case of domestic terrorism in the u.s. since 2001.

and yet, habeas corpus was just invalidated with the infinite detention act ..............

see ? it doesnt matter whether you behaved. they will do it regardless.

hacktivism only reminds people that all is not lost. and governments and corporations are not all that powerful. in that, its something good. its like the gestapo prison air raid british did in early ww ii. it was strategically unimportant, but the deed was so courageous and so irritating to germans that it broke the air of invincibility around them and gave morale to both allies and the french resistance.

its time for you to say 'viva la resistance !'. for you are already under occupation in america.

Re:Can't help but think (0, Troll)

sneakyimp (1161443) | more than 2 years ago | (#38755000)

Mod parent up. This is really stupid. Any hacker who thinks he can keep his tracks covered forever should think again. Nothing like a little public outrage to fuel some kind of suspending-habeas-corpus-body-snatching legislation like the Patriot Act and these little twats will end up being waterboarded somewhere in Egypt. Lil' hacker buds would do well to remember that meatspace is not cyberspace.

Re:Can't help but think (1)

oodaloop (1229816) | more than 2 years ago | (#38755220)

Exactly. We should all just roll over and do nothing.

Re:Can't help but think (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38755080)

Draconian legislation will be created and pass anyway. Power demonstration does not need justification, they can came from nowhere: if you stay quiet, you are not reacting and you have no rights besides "exist" for consume. If you talk, power must be demonstrated.

To all my fellow numbnut ACs (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38755134)

Media: "Coming up next! Terrorists have taken down the Dept of JUSTICE website! You could be next!"

Armed rebellion?

Media: " Terrorists have taken arms in a compound. Federal Authorities tried negotiating but were fired upon and unfortunately, had to defend themselves with drones."

My fellow serfs - give it up. We're fucked.

Re:Can't help but think (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38755168)

I have to think that they just -increased- the odds of draconian legislation being passed to help contain outbreaks just like this.

And when that legislation is passed, what will you do, sit around whining about it? Just give up? And who's REALLY to blame for it? What Anonymous did is take down some web sites which will quickly be fixed. The point is to bait the government into a massively over-proportioned response. I know I, for one, will not just sit here thinking "I forgive the government for all of this, after all Anonymous forced them into it."

No, this is merely accelerating the slide. Which will hopefully help a lot of people wake up and notice it for the first time.

Re:Can't help but think (5, Insightful)

DaKritter (158840) | more than 2 years ago | (#38755200)

No, Anonymous is right.

SOPA meant anyone could take down anyone else's website for any or none reason.

Now Anon shows what that would mean. For once there is a actually a point in the DDoS.

As time goes by it all seems like a plot (2, Insightful)

David89 (2022710) | more than 2 years ago | (#38754670)

How are these attacks going to help our cause? The more I read about this the more I believe it's all a cover up by the government or some other pro SOPA force. Makes it seem like these bills really need to get passed.

Re:As time goes by it all seems like a plot (1)

westlake (615356) | more than 2 years ago | (#38755198)

The more I read about this the more I believe it's all a cover up by the government or some other pro SOPA force.

The wonderful thing about a conspiracy theory is that it can made to fit any set of facts.

This won't help (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38754678)

If Al-Qaeda blowing up two buildings and killing 4000 people didn't cause the US government to change any of its stances but rather become even more entrenched; then taking down some web sites certainly won't impress anybody. Anonymous is only making the rest of the Internet look bad. As a proponent of Internet freedom I do not condone or applaud these immature kids.

Well done them... (4, Insightful)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 2 years ago | (#38754702)

I'm certain the feds can back-track the traffic and find more ip addresses to servers which were compromised and home addresses which controlled them. The net isn't as loose as it once was and the more this activity happens the more tools the feds will build to track and back-track.

Short term victory, that's all.

Re:Well done them... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38754862)

So... the Cyber Police back-traced it?

Man, the consequences will never be the same again!

Re:Well done them... (2)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 2 years ago | (#38755010)

So... the Cyber Police back-traced it?

Man, the consequences will never be the same again!

The opportunity to do these things is in limited supply. Each iteration of attacks exposes more of the means and the perpetrators.

Utterly juvenile reaction. "Hey, lookit me! I can take down ur websites! LOL! Take that, teh man!"

yes (1)

unity100 (970058) | more than 2 years ago | (#38754968)

and the ips will come out in russia, or china. thats why the fed and government and corporations are barking like mad dogs since a while.

Re:Well done them... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38755090)

What victory? This is like slapping a bear.

It's not even short-term accomplishment, it's getting yourself into the thick of it.

Re:Well done them... (2)

DogDude (805747) | more than 2 years ago | (#38755130)

I'm certain the feds can back-track the traffic and find more ip addresses to servers which were compromised and home addresses which controlled them

That's why open wireless networks are so great.

That'll showem (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38754718)

Because breaking the law will show the law enforcers that they are wrong for taking down a site that was breaking the law. Yeah! You go!

Anonymous is a bunch of entitlement junior idiots who think the world is entitled to them. Lump them in with the OWS.

Re:That'll showem (4, Insightful)

Toonol (1057698) | more than 2 years ago | (#38754924)

Because breaking the law will show the law enforcers that they are wrong for taking down a site that was breaking the law. Yeah! You go!

What law was MegaUpload breaking? They were compliant with the DMCA, from what I understand. They were simply a file repository for their users.

Kim Dotcom not worth fighting for (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38754730)

On or about October 14, 2011, DOTCOM sent an e-mail to a PayPal, Inc.
representative indicating:
Our legal team in the US is currently preparing to sue some of our competitors and
expose their criminal activity. We like to give you a heads up and advice you not to work
with sites that are known to pay uploaders for pirated content. They are damaging the
image and the existence of the file hosting industry (see whats happening with the Protect
IP act). Look at Fileserve.com, Videobb.com, Filesonic.com, Wupload.com,
Uploadstation.com. These sites pay everyone (no matter if the files are pirated or not)
and have NO repeat infringer policy. And they are using PAYPAL to pay infringers.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/78786408/Mega-Indictment

operative? (4, Insightful)

PaulBu (473180) | more than 2 years ago | (#38754748)

Anonymous operative Barrett Brown

Does not being Barret Brown contradicts beins Anonymous? ;)

Paul B.

Re:operative? (1)

Dr Caleb (121505) | more than 2 years ago | (#38754816)

Even Saddam Huessien had "The Iraqi Information Minister."

Not Anonymous.. (2, Interesting)

Superken7 (893292) | more than 2 years ago | (#38754754)

..but regular internet users.

The summary sounds like it was a specialized group of hackers - it wasn't it was anyone who followed a link like the following:

http://pastehtml.com/view/blaoyp0qs.html [pastehtml.com]

Re:Not Anonymous.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38755082)

Once loaded, the above page generates plenty of requests against some sites - guess which?

What point does this serve? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38754790)

Why do hacker groups think that taking down a website (usually only briefly) in any way does anything? They haven't hurt the DOJ, RIAA, or Universal Music in any way. If anything, they are probably suggesting that the Internet is lawless wildwest and needs more control. I just don't get the point of taking down websites that nobody goes to as if it promotes some cause.

Re:What point does this serve? (0)

bky1701 (979071) | more than 2 years ago | (#38755050)

It shows the government is mortal. It also (repeatedly) shows that they are incompetent when it comes to technology. If people were less apathetic than you, that would mean a lot.

should of not done the DOJ other are fine (0)

Joe_Dragon (2206452) | more than 2 years ago | (#38754804)

Let's see in court can't look up DOJ guild lines. YOU GET LIFE BANG.

Re:should of not done the DOJ other are fine (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38754976)

Your England are fail.

Re:should of not done the DOJ other are fine (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38755210)

+1

How does this even hurt them? (1)

oic0 (1864384) | more than 2 years ago | (#38754812)

I fail to see how this would even bother those agencies. They don't make money from their web sites. They're nothing more than billboards. Have you ever been to the RIAA web page? what about the DOJ web page? They need to find a better way to hit them. I think graffiti on their buildings would bother them more.

They need better things to do (3, Insightful)

future assassin (639396) | more than 2 years ago | (#38754814)

Taking down sites will do nothing but give the corrupted politicians more amo. Why not concentrate on digging up dirt con corruption and start making it public? Get some incriminating info on RIAA/MPAA/Politicians.

Re:They need better things to do (1)

bobcat7677 (561727) | more than 2 years ago | (#38754872)

Yeah, isn't DDOSing their website the virtual equivalent of throwing rocks at a tank?

The Internet (2)

omganton (2554342) | more than 2 years ago | (#38754820)

Perhaps the Government will soon learn that they serve us, not the other way around.

The Internet and the Government are by the people, for the people. This will not end until the old men in mothball scented suits understand that their rein of power is coming to a swift end. The people are united, angry and done listening to wrinkled, clueless senior citizens make laws that have no place in our modern society.

We are on the cusp of a new generation. The next civil war will take place in a series of tubes.

Re:The Internet (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38754974)

No it won't. All of these massive corporations would be happier than pigs in shit if the internet was severely locked down and turned into the next TV where only 'approved' things can be seen.

The internet will be taken down long before anything can actually be taken down thanks to the internet. Or at least that applies to the internet in North America (since Canada will just follow the US like a stupid puppy dog like it always does, and the USA ignores Mexico anyway).

I see the past few years as the beginning of the end. Enjoy the internet while you can... soon it will not exist as you know it. It will become the next television... nothing more than a media feeding tube.

Oh the irony. (5, Insightful)

unity100 (970058) | more than 2 years ago | (#38754822)

The CITIZENS of the country who elect and send representatives to make laws for them, cannot do ANYthing against the repression those representatives rain down on them - from nullification of habeas corpus to censorship. if they do, they are pushed into 'free speech zones', or batoned down in public ............. but, those who are dubbed as 'criminals', react on their behalf with unmatched efficiency that would put the biggest picketing protest to shame....

when things come to this point in a society, it means that that society, with everything in it, is broken beyond repair and needs a total reset.

*slow clap* (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38754832)

Well done idiotic reactionaries, you've played right into the puppetmasters trap.

Yesterday people took notice of a real issue that had both politicians and Big Media scrambling for damage control.

Big Media responds with a very calculated move to bring down a notorious hive of actual crime, it's like setting the bait for the trap.

Guess what will be talked about in the media for days now?

Guess how your CongressButts will vote when they sense danger?

GREAT JORB

Staged? (4, Interesting)

Qbertino (265505) | more than 2 years ago | (#38754836)

I think it's quite likely this entire thing is a staged PR stunt by the SOPA/PIPA cartell to generate a little counter-press. Call me paranoid, but It apprears to me all to convenient that something like this happens just now. At least it's a theory worth entertaining, imho.

Begun! (3, Funny)

Zaatxe (939368) | more than 2 years ago | (#38754858)

Begun, the Internet War has!

You think they give a shit? (4, Insightful)

AdamJS (2466928) | more than 2 years ago | (#38754874)

Websites mean little compared to winning ideological battles.

Re:You think they give a shit? (3, Insightful)

bky1701 (979071) | more than 2 years ago | (#38754942)

It serves to embarrass the supporters of these laws, and to some extent, show how incompetent they are in internet matters.

Kill them all (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38754876)

Perhaps they can hire Steve Ballmer to kill and bury all the pirates, like Steve said, "I did it before and will do it again."

War (4, Interesting)

bky1701 (979071) | more than 2 years ago | (#38754878)

It's starting. Hopefully it will keep moving. We need to get this shit sorted out once and for all.

Unfortunately, instead of the revolt that is needed over copyright, we'll probably just end up with some kids in gitmo for the rest of their lives and another SOPA/PIPA copy passed in a few months.

Wake up, now is the time to stand up.

Call me when they actually _do_ retaliate (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38754894)

Why bringing down some lame websites should be a "retaliation" is beyond me.

Not sure how this helps (1)

dbthelinguaphile (2556814) | more than 2 years ago | (#38754928)

They have balls, but I can't help thinking that this is counterintuitive. I applaud the effectiveness of the SOPA/PIPA protest yesterday -- that's great. It's within the law, it's effective, it was a lot of people banding together to protest a piece of legislature that could destroy the Internet as we know it. Fair enough. Now right on the heels of that we give Rupert Murdoch something he can point to and say "See? These are the kinds of people we're dealing with! Give an inch and they'll take a mile." All this is going to do is tick off the federal government, add fuel to the fire on the filesharing debate, and give justification to the abuse of power by the entertainment industry lobby. With this recent protest, the Internet has shown that it can bring significant leverage to bear on injustice if enough influential people/corporations get the word out. What's to stop us from doing that instead of giving executives examples of why they should hate the Internet? All this does is invalidate what we did yesterday. SOPA and PIPA are not the answer to the problems with piracy, but neither is this the answer to the problems with anti-piracy work.

I thought... (1)

fenskinator (1629895) | more than 2 years ago | (#38754956)

...everyone was pissed about all the inaction.

Outcome = nothing good (2)

toby1 (998516) | more than 2 years ago | (#38754958)

It's not really an effective "retaliation" - a site taken down by physical raids and arrests is not just offline, it's gone and all the content is gone. These (probably) DOS attacks just cause downtime and nothing is really lost except face.. So now what? DoJ etc log some service calls with providers, reset a few things and it's back like nothing happened where MegaUpload is offline until some new person decides to setup shop. Result = nothing good, BAU, *sad face*

DDoS? (2)

Sebastopol (189276) | more than 2 years ago | (#38755022)

As much as I want to see a vigilante internet group of elite white-hat hackers send a potent message, a DDoS is hardly effective. It grabs a headline or two, but in the end, does nothing.

Too bad l0pht/CDC went legit.

*sigh*

The 4 men doing the evil deeds have been arrested (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38755034)

They were arrested in NZ...where I live...at 6AM local time and will appear in court tomorrow morning to face extradition charges.
USA we love you!

Re:The 4 men doing the evil deeds have been arrest (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38755206)

EDIT...the Megaupload team.

The DOJ = anything but justice (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38755038)

The legal system in this country is about politics, not about what is right or wrong.

The swine in the Supreme Court have been bought by corporations, and
the rest of the government has too.

A thinking man cannot respect these institutions any more, because the public
is not served by them, but enslaved by them. The rest of the world views the US as
the big bully. What they may not realize is that US citizens are just as much
victims as the rest of the world is.

Idiocy (4, Insightful)

Arancaytar (966377) | more than 2 years ago | (#38755060)

Yes, taking down sharing sites is bad. But vigilante attacks at a time when the government is already itching to censor the internet are fucking silly. It's like protesting the TSA by putting bombs in your luggage.

Re:Idiocy (2)

sdguero (1112795) | more than 2 years ago | (#38755224)

And detonating the bombs at the security checkpoint...

Hadopi (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38755094)

Hadopi.fr too... Thanks guys!

I expect a lot of criticism directed at Anonymous (4, Insightful)

blind biker (1066130) | more than 2 years ago | (#38755160)

..but despite that, I'll be a bit less politically correct and give a little sign of appreciation: good targets, guys. MPAA, RIAA and the greatest copyrights troll of all, Universal. Good selection.

What OS/web servers were they running? (1)

BlueCoder (223005) | more than 2 years ago | (#38755192)

I'm curious if it was MS or Linux.

now its a party (2)

gearloos (816828) | more than 2 years ago | (#38755194)

Now it's a party. Too bad they forgot to invite Sony...
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