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Web Developer Sentenced To Death In Iran

Soulskill posted more than 2 years ago | from the some-things-are-worse-than-sopa dept.

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An anonymous reader points out the case of Saeed Malekpour, an Iranian-born permanent resident of Canada who worked as a web developer. In 2008, during a visit to Iran, Malekpour was arrested and detained by Iranian authorities on charges that he designed and moderated "adult content websites." In 2009, he was sentenced to death for "acting against the national security, insulting and desecrating the principles of Islam, and agitating the public mind." Malekpour wrote photo-uploading software, and in a letter he sent from prison, he said it was used by porn sites without his knowledge. This week an Iranian court reviewed the case and confirmed that the death sentence was an acceptable punishment. According to one Canadian publication, "Human rights monitors believe that Malekpour, one of a number of people held on Internet-related charges, is trapped by a convoluted justice system that is manipulated by rival factions in Iran."

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In other words, (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38779705)

You're in danger the second you step into Iran. Don't do business there, don't visit there.

Re:In other words, (1, Insightful)

villew (2018258) | more than 2 years ago | (#38779711)

You are in danger the second you enter a country with a failing justice system and the death penalty, including the U.S....

Re:In other words, (5, Insightful)

Racemaniac (1099281) | more than 2 years ago | (#38779729)

Since when do you have to enter the US to get arrested by it? look at the megaupload guys...

Re:In other words, (5, Informative)

dna_(c)(tm)(r) (618003) | more than 2 years ago | (#38779797)

Or live in the UK: Richard O'Dwyer [guardian.co.uk]

Re:In other words, (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38779807)

Disclaimer: I am an Iranian with intimate knowledge of the case. The whole story is not being told, and I will fill in the blanks for you:

Saeed had been getting into the meth too much lately, he was stark raving paranoid. He and his little brother Ahmad were in their late and mid thirties, respectively, and still living with their parents in a nice Tehran-gaudy cookie-cutter house in suburbia, a place where all wood on the furniture was spray-painted gold. Saeed's improvised digs were indicative of the classic downward spiral of the burgeoning tweeker -- first, he moved out of his comfortable air-conditioned bedroom inside the house and into the garage, where he could toil with his fiendish plans all night without disturbing his sleeping parents. Next came the cameras. He crudely installed cameras -- which looked as every bit as out-of-place as those dumb wireless earpieces people use with their phones -- on 2 walls outside the garage. He had to see what everybody was doing at all times, and before the door was kicked in he could make a mad dash for the toilet and flush all of the shit in his possession.

Even the most hardcore tweekers are ashamed of their habit -- they say they're gonna "go smoke," but when you ask them in ignorance what exactly they're gonna smoke, and why they won't smoke it right there on the spot, they just answer, "shit," to both questions. The crackpipes Saeed could shove up his ass 'till the heat died down, but it was the piss-bucket that really worried us all.

Ahh, the piss-bucket, the classic sign of every hopeless addict in too deep, too impatient or paranoid, to tiptoe through the hallways and piss in the sink or bathtub as any civilized human would. The piss-bucket actually transcends addictions. It is the only common physical evidence of both obsessive video game-playing and week-long meth binges when the two do not directly intersect.

Ahmad was the only tweeker who showed signs of hunger during a meth binge. His parents wisely acted as his patient advocates and reaped the spoils of his monthly retard pension when it came in the mail. "Rent," they called it, but they really kept the whole thing($944 a month) and doled out $20 every weekend to placate him. No questions were asked as long as Ahmad took his horse pills and butt shots administered by the government behavioral health department. Not that hooking up a poor buddy is a bad thing, but you've pretty much burned yourself out when you spend your meager $20 allowance smoking meth in some bedless Tehran flophouse.

Re:In other words, (0)

geogob (569250) | more than 2 years ago | (#38779839)

That's not even subtle. Can't you do any better than that for the salary you get?

Re:In other words, (1)

greentshirt (1308037) | more than 2 years ago | (#38779841)

So your point, insofar as one exists in that jumbled mess of arbitrary thoughts, is that because he has a secret drug addiction (to which you are privy) it is all right for the state to have him executed?

I mean, yes of course you're trolling, yes of course you're attempting humour, but truly, that is the best you can produce even when shielded by anonymity and a computer screen? Really? Incredible.

Re:In other words, (-1, Flamebait)

OeLeWaPpErKe (412765) | more than 2 years ago | (#38779987)

So your point, insofar as one exists in that jumbled mess of arbitrary thoughts, is that because he has a secret drug addiction (to which you are privy) it is all right for the state to have him executed?

You seem to say this isn't the case ... do you hate islam ? If your answer is "no", why do you bother with arguing at all ?

I ask because this is the choice that freedom of religion is being abused to force. As is plain here, but also in other cases, including some inside the US, freedom of religion is being used as justification for convicting people according to this law system called "islam". (well, I should say freedom of religion is being used as a thin veneer. Threat of direct personal violence is really what's behind it).

My point is that in a matter of half a decade to maybe one and a half decade, this violence will reach the point where freedom of religion dies. And there will be a choice to be made.

Re:In other words, (0)

Zontar The Mindless (9002) | more than 2 years ago | (#38779897)

Obvious troll is obvious.

Go die in a fire.

Re:In other words, (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38779989)

Disclaimer: I am an Iranian with intimate knowledge of the case. The whole story is not being told, and I will fill in the blanks for you:

No one knew, at first, why Saeed was arrested. I'm a friend of his and my parents are friends to his parents. His parents are nice people, a well known upper middle class couple. His dad was confident that after the reason of his arrest was divulged he would be able to find a nice specialist lawyer and get his son out of jail. Everyone thought the same. Maybe he had some dope on him, wherever. A minor charge he thought. And so did I.

After a few days, I went with his family to the first trial. The judge, looking bored, asked:

- DA, what's the charge?

The accusation lawyer started talking:

- This men produced heinous websites ...

At this point, everyone though the same: PORN! A minor charge! great!

- ... which used Flash, the Flash DRM plugin ...

Oh oh. I was sure he would get some caning. No good.

- ... and only worked in IE6!

Oh boy, things are getting bad. The judge covered his head with his hand. His family was desperate. His mother shouted: "Why, Saeed, why?!". Saeed was charged with "Crime equivalent to sex with a donkey". And, unfortunately, sentenced to death...

Re:In other words, (1)

mjwalshe (1680392) | more than 2 years ago | (#38780015)

Ah you mean they tortured him to confess - I am sure they could have got him to confess to the reichstag fire if they wished.

Lets hope the Arab spring gets to Iran and you and your fellow travelers got what the milice did in France post ww2 - if your lucky a clean death by firing squad against the wall.

Re:In other words, (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38779999)

> You are in danger the second you enter a country with a failing justice system and the death penalty, including the U.S....

That's not even denied when brought up here and in other places...

China-style censoring and legislation, North Korea-like paranoia, blitz attacks and guerrilla methods typical of the Palestine... would it be surprising if Iran punishment came also to be in the US?

        Be careful when you fight the monsters, lest you become one.
                Friedrich Nietzsche
                German philosopher (1844 - 1900)

Then again, Nietzsche having aid that in Germany, seemingly did not have enough of an impact to avoid problems which came to be some 50 years later... I wonder if the US is in an inescapable downward spiral...

Re:In other words, (2, Insightful)

dmesg0 (1342071) | more than 2 years ago | (#38780013)

Great comparison between justice systems in Iran and USA. Those who moderated the parent insightful deserve being sent to Iran to get a clue. They should bring their porn collections for initial evidence.

Re:In other words, (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38780055)

Tell that to the guys at gitmo, or to those who will be detained based on the "National Defense Authorization Act".

Re:In other words, (3, Insightful)

Zontar The Mindless (9002) | more than 2 years ago | (#38780057)

Get back to us when you can be put to death in the US for making a porno in Canada and we'll talk.

(Who the fuck modded this Insightful?)

Re:In other words, (5, Insightful)

Cederic (9623) | more than 2 years ago | (#38780073)

No, in the US you only need to be born black in Detroit to be put to death.

Meanwhile hosting a website that links to other websites can earn you 20 years in jail when you've never even fucking visited the fucking country.

I haven't even mentioned the decade of torture and false imprisonment in a foreign country for the evil crime of "pissing off someone that works for the Americans". Or do you really believe that everyone in Guantanamo is guilty?

Trust me, from where I'm sat the US poses are far greater threat to my ongoing life and freedom than Iran does.

Re:In other words, (1)

CrackedButter (646746) | more than 2 years ago | (#38780093)

Totally agree. For instance, now I mentioned the CIA. They are reviewing this conversation now. Iranian agencies don't have the capacity.

Re:In other words, (2)

DarkOx (621550) | more than 2 years ago | (#38780205)

Exactly, it may be true that our justice system committing these sorts of abuses less frequently than say the Iranians, but its the same capriciousness and ethical emptiness seen there.

It absolutely needs to be pointed out now while its still possible to do something about, that does not require firearms.

Re:In other words, (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38780151)

So you accept that the United States is bad, but it just isn't as bad as Iran? Way to set the bar.

Re:In other words, (5, Insightful)

purpledinoz (573045) | more than 2 years ago | (#38779761)

What really irks me is that case of American hikers caught by the Iranians in Iraq. First of all, why do they have to go to Iraq to go hiking? They KNOW it's dangerous. By being caught, they gave Iran a bargaining chip. What the hell is wrong with these people?

Re:In other words, (4, Insightful)

SuricouRaven (1897204) | more than 2 years ago | (#38779789)

Because it is remote, inaccessible and dangerous. That's the fun for the hiking hardcore.

Re:In other words, (3, Funny)

bky1701 (979071) | more than 2 years ago | (#38779803)

Or they could just go to Somalia and avoid the international incident bit, but with the added bonus of pirates!

Re:In other words, (1)

Cryacin (657549) | more than 2 years ago | (#38780005)

The worst I'll tolerate whizzing around my head is mosquitos, not bullets. And even then, the mosquitos can't have malaria.

Re:In other words, (2)

Kalriath (849904) | more than 2 years ago | (#38780139)

Yarr, tharr be Photoshop off the starboard bow!

Oh... wrong pirates.

Re:In other words, (1)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 2 years ago | (#38779927)

Nowhere near as remote, inaccessible and dangerous as Antarctica.

Re:In other words, (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38779831)

What really irks me is how a random group of Americans can be discovered by Iranians wandering into Iraq, the media is told OH THEY'RE JUST HIKERS, and a single person finds the story credible.

Re:In other words, (-1, Flamebait)

OeLeWaPpErKe (412765) | more than 2 years ago | (#38780029)

What they're taking offence with is that this religious war that's being forced by muslims on everyone around the world. You seem to be pushing the same idea. These people take offence that their freedom is being destroyed by muslims, that they are automatically considered enemies, for a variety of reasons. They see that the violence level is slowly expanding to the point where you're taking away their choice to live in peace. Your reasons are moronic with them being Americans, atheists or christians (or traitor muslims), and that the violence level is increasing.

Most of all, they take offence with the obvious future that is being threatened by muslims all around the web and in so many places all around us : that it is a matter of time until the violence escalates to the level where everyone will be forced to defend themselves against these muslim animals.

I realize it is a constant in islam, both in it's disgusting sharia law and it's history, but one has to wonder : why do you morons fight ? There are only 2 outcomes, either you win or you lose. If you win, you get to live in talibanistan, where ridiculous numbers commit suicide for such moronic reasons as being forced to marry, where there is constant endless violence and hopelessness and where there is islam. If you lose, you die (although maybe if you lose against the US that might be avoided). And yes islam promises the plunder of the war, but you must realize that that is a VERY short-lived pleasure. And even if you win, we simply go back to the dark ages. Christianity sets up somewhere far beyond your disgusting religions reach and slowly builds back up to the point the world is worth living in again.

Is beating women and raping children (the islamic prophet did both) worth that much to muslims ? Apparently, yes.

Hell, this is perhaps the one tactical issue America, Russia, India and China agree on : the need to suppress islam's aspirations. What they don't agree with is the method. All but America seem to believe in genocide, given historical trends. Do muslims have the moronic idea you are capable of fighting even one of those ? I would be AMAZED that if open conflict emerges muslims would last a month. You attack America ... you might want to read up on how China treats it's enemies. Just ask a few Pakistani, you'll find them around.

So why the will to fight ? Are you truly this moronic ?

Re:In other words, (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38780109)

What a pathetic, useless, wasteful racist screed. Actually advocating genocide? Seriously?

Were you drunk when you wrote this? A quick glance at your posting history didn't show anything else this demented.

Re:In other words, (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38779941)

Knowing nothing of the case you're talking about, what I'm wondering is why the Iranians are arresting people in Iraq, what gives them jurisdiction in Iraq, and why the Iraqi security services - who were until very recently heavily supplemented by the American military - are happy for Iran to exercise its jurisdiction in Iraq. I'm assuming your use of Iran/Iraq is deliberate, since you seem aware of the differences between the countries; it just doesn't make much sense to me... Have you got a link to the story?

Re:In other words, (1)

dkleinsc (563838) | more than 2 years ago | (#38779971)

First of all, why do they have to go to Iraq to go hiking?

One possibility: Their CIA or DIA superiors ordered them to. Just because the Iranians are bastards about who they'll execute doesn't mean that they weren't spies, and the US intelligence agencies would definitely lie to the US public about whether they were spies in order to avoid blowing people's cover. In fact, they may even use a completely false story to try to convince the public that going to war with Iran is a good idea, if they have leadership that is part of the old and honorable profession of starting wars.

Re:In other words, (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38780019)

You're in danger the second you step into Iran. Don't do business there, don't visit there.

Iran is acting exactly like the US. Pretty ironic isn't it ?

Re:In other words, (0)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | more than 2 years ago | (#38780047)

This is the second man of Iranian descent sentenced to death in Iran while visiting his family there in just the last few months. If you're Iranian, don't go to Iran to visit your family, they'll find some reason to kill you. If all else fails they can call you a spy.

wow (5, Funny)

jmb1990 (1979110) | more than 2 years ago | (#38779707)

...I've written some bad code in my time.. but not that bad.

Re:wow (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38779859)

As the poor bastard that has to maintain some of your shit I would have to disagree.

Re:wow (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38779947)

you're both fired.

Jeremy Irons talks about the Death Penalty (0)

bbqsrc (1441981) | more than 2 years ago | (#38779719)

I very rarely post links to YouTube videos, but this one is very much related to the topic, and I fully agree with it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVMho2cP1NE [youtube.com] .

Oh, come on Iran. (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38779723)

Give the man a break. It's not like he deployed untested code to production.

Savages (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38779727)

Canada should go to war over this. Another country is murdering one of their citizens (Iranian born or not) on trumped-up charges. Are there any crimes in this savage country that don't deserve the death sentence?

Re:Savages (4, Interesting)

qbast (1265706) | more than 2 years ago | (#38779781)

I don't remember Canada going to war when another of their citizens [wikipedia.org] was captured and tortured by different bunch of savages on trumped-up charges. Why act differently now?

Re:Savages (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38779881)

As a dual-national myself, there is a distinct difference between a 'permanent resident' and 'citizenship'. Permanent residents are generally free to live and work in a country indefinitely, but that's really it - they cannot vote, run for office, join the military, etc. If they leave and don't visit often, they will lose their status.

Regardless, even if he were a dual-national, governments tend to have a 'when in rome' policy which makes it clear that a person will be held to the laws of the respective country while visiting it. Reason being, is that most governments don't formally recognize dual-citizenship. Having said that, there are probably exceptions depending on how the embassy chooses to interpret the situation.

Re:Savages (5, Insightful)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 2 years ago | (#38779929)

I think it is bizarre that Iran apparently has people who track the authors of software used to host pornography and associates it with their residency status and availability for arrest in Iran.

Re:Savages (1)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 2 years ago | (#38780007)

Well, if you're a pervert in Iran, you either go to jail ... or the secret service.

Re:Savages (1)

Cryacin (657549) | more than 2 years ago | (#38780011)

Iranian tax dollars at work?

Re:Savages (1)

geogob (569250) | more than 2 years ago | (#38779895)

After observing the Canadian conservative government go for a while now, I would say don't expect them to do anything. They'll just ignore it, because 1) he's Iranian, 2) it won't contribute to get them reelected and 3) it won't contribute to some good friends in the prairies.

At most, what they could do is revoke his permanent residency and put some security flag on him (ie. put him on some potential dangerous people list).

The conservative, not only do they fail at understanding anything related to international politics, did a great job in the past protecting its citizen abroad and will surely continue doing so in the future.

Wait and See (3, Interesting)

UncleWilly (1128141) | more than 2 years ago | (#38779743)

He will end up being pardoned and sent back to Canada, thus showing Iran as having an enlightened justice system. We've seen this over and over again.

We've had a similar case here in NL (5, Insightful)

bytesex (112972) | more than 2 years ago | (#38779745)

The question is: why oh why do all of these people go back to fscking Iran ?!

Re:We've had a similar case here in NL (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38779773)

One day a guy was sleeping in the sun with his pants off, and the papa tapeworm and the baby tapeworm got out in the sun. It was a first for the baby, so it looked at everything with big eyes and started asking. Pa, pa, what is this big shiny blue dome? The sky, son, the sky. Pa, pa, what is this shiny yellow thing in the middle of the sky? The sun, son, the sun. Pa, pa, what is the beautiful green thing all around? A meadow, son, with flowers. Pa, pa, when there are so many beautiful things in the world, why do we live in this stinking hole? Motherland, son, motherland.

Re:We've had a similar case here in NL (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38779821)

Oh! That was a beautiful story! :)

Re:We've had a similar case here in NL (4, Informative)

SuricouRaven (1897204) | more than 2 years ago | (#38779795)

In this case, family matters. His father was (still is?) terminally ill. He wanted to see his dying rather one more time while he still had the chance. A story worthy of a cheap soap, but in this case happens to be true.

Re:We've had a similar case here in NL (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38779861)

Sometimes people are able to overcome their fear and live as if they are free, despite clear and present danger. Bravery or stupidity, they tend to bring about great change but often at great personal cost.

Re:We've had a similar case here in NL (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38779909)

Summary says he was Iranian-born, which means there is probably some family there. My bet is that he was visiting family and he couldn't afford for all of them to come to America or was paying them a return visit.

Iran is a crazy country ever. (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38779747)

what i read this as my first thought sprang to my mind was 'Oh, dear god, will someone bomb that crazy country.' I don't mind other shock and awe campaign takes place there... Really.

I wish all the best for Malekpour. :(

Re:Iran is a crazy country ever. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38779765)

Don't be so quick to judge the ountry.
Maybe it's a setup to make the West hate Iran even more so the US has less opposition over going to war with it.

Be careful in just condemning anything.

Re:Iran is a crazy country ever. (2)

geogob (569250) | more than 2 years ago | (#38779869)

Yes, of course. Don't judge something because, regardless of the facts, this other fictional fantasy (redundancy intended) might perhaps with luck (again) be true.

I'll be careful and I'll stick to facts, thank you.

Re:Iran is a crazy country ever. (2)

SuricouRaven (1897204) | more than 2 years ago | (#38779811)

Bombing is easy. The US is good at bombing. The problem is what to do afterwards. If you just bomb and then ignore, you end up with the government reforming or a worse government emerging, and in a few years you're back where you started - except that now the people hate the western world even more, because they lost friends and relatives in the attacks. You could bomb and occupy to control the rebuilding, but that is very expensive - just look at the fiasco in Iraq, how much that cost over how many years. Iran has twice the population. Then there are economic considerations: Iran exports a hell of a lot of oil, and if they stopped pumping the resulting price rise would raise the cost of many businesses so much it'd push the already-struggling global economy back into a full-blown depression. The only way to solve the problem perminantly through force is a scortched earth campaign: Nuke the country so hard that there are no survivers. The international community tends to frown on such actions though, and would likely end up initiating world war three.

Re:Iran is a crazy country ever. (1)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 2 years ago | (#38780017)

Well, history tells us there is another option. But genocide has gone out of style.

Figures. Now that we got the means to actually do it efficiently...

(yes, I'm a cynic. But just a little)

Re:Iran is a crazy country ever. (1)

Cryacin (657549) | more than 2 years ago | (#38780021)

Not to mention if you nuke the country, what happens to the oil?

Re:Iran is a crazy country ever. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38780049)

Not to mention if you nuke the country, what happens to the oil?

If we nuke all the countries that have death sentence and kill innocent people, and have a justice system that can disregard due process and rights, then we wouldn't need so much oil.

Re:Iran is a crazy country ever. (1)

Zontar The Mindless (9002) | more than 2 years ago | (#38780091)

Not to mention if you nuke the country, what happens to the oil?

If we bring back the neutron bomb, not much.

Re:Iran is a crazy country ever. (2)

sjames (1099) | more than 2 years ago | (#38779865)

I wonder if Dmitry Sklyarov feels the same way about the U.S.

Re:Iran is a crazy country ever. (1)

Dog-Cow (21281) | more than 2 years ago | (#38779925)

Last I heard, Sklyarov was not sentenced to death.

Re:Iran is a crazy country ever. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38780201)

what i read this as my first thought sprang to my mind was 'Oh, dear god, will someone bomb that crazy country.' I don't mind other shock and awe campaign takes place there...

I guess you'd prefer the explosions to miss any web developers though - just bakers and farmers and such like to be killed?

Man (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38779771)

Sometimes, against my better instincts, I think that some cultures just don't have the right to exist.

Convoluted Justice? (2)

Flipstylee (1932884) | more than 2 years ago | (#38779775)

is trapped by a convoluted justice system that is manipulated by rival factions in [insert country here].

FTFY.

Mixed thoughts (2)

vikingpower (768921) | more than 2 years ago | (#38779779)

On the one hand, one might argue that Malekpour knew - or should have known - what he risked by returning to Iran.

OTOH, the death penalty is heinous in and by itself.

The question that comes to my mind, and that I would very much like to have feedback upon, is: does this case deserve a campaign, under "us" computer programmers, geeks, architects, database tuners and birds of many digital feathers, to free Malekpour ?

Re:Mixed thoughts (2)

Zorque (894011) | more than 2 years ago | (#38779907)

The summary itself even says that he didn't know porn sites were using his software, why would somebody know or even suspect they would be arrested for such a thing?

Pay attention to compiler warnings! (4, Insightful)

PolygamousRanchKid (1290638) | more than 2 years ago | (#38779787)

You know, it's easy to just glaze over things like, "conversion from int to long," "unused variable," or "insulting and desecrating the principles of Islam." But it's better to fix them . . . it may save your life!

Re:Pay attention to compiler warnings! (1)

Cryacin (657549) | more than 2 years ago | (#38780025)

It's not a bug, it's a feature. Defect closed.

Re:Pay attention to compiler warnings! (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38780217)

You know, it's easy to just glaze over things like, "conversion from int to long," "unused variable," or "insulting and desecrating the principles of Islam." But it's better to fix them . . . it may save your life!

Unfortunately, the whack jobs of all religions get all the press because they do stupid and whacky things in the name of their religion.

I wish the Islamic World would just go and condemn the Saudi, Taliban, Iranian leadership for dishonoring the principles of Islam and while they're at it, give the fucking Shia's a break.

I'm at least trying to put the Christian nutters in my country in their place when I can - because many of them would do the same fucking thing if we weren't a land of the rule of law. Some do anyway - like the murder of abortion docs and bombing of women's clinics in the name of God.

Death penalty (2, Insightful)

lorinc (2470890) | more than 2 years ago | (#38779809)

This is one of the numerous examples why death penalty should never exist.

MEGAUPLOAD (1)

sugarmotor (621907) | more than 2 years ago | (#38779845)

The flip side of megaupload. Who knows which of the ~200 governments doesn't like what you do?

Damn tag! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38779857)

Damn tag!!

Mark Edwards

Avaaz? (2)

greylion3 (555507) | more than 2 years ago | (#38779883)

Maybe a case for avaaz.org [avaaz.org] ?

Damn "blink" tag! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38779899)

Damn "blink" tag!

Mark Edwards
--
Proof of Sanity Forged Upon Request

A question of priorities (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38779903)

Surely something must be terribly wrong with a man who seems to be far more concerned with Jews building houses in Israel than with Muslims building a nuclear bomb in Iran.”

—Burt Prelutsky

Re:A question of priorities (1)

Cederic (9623) | more than 2 years ago | (#38780107)

I've never heard of this Burt Prelutsky, but is he always an ignorant cunt?

I mean, seriously? Nobody's worried about jewish people building houses in Israel. They're pretty fucking pissed about Israeli people building houses in Palestine but that's a very different thing.

Not to mention the attempt to incite religious divide by naming the activities of two religions, rather than the fuckwits practicing either.

The idiots in Tehran would be idiots in any religion. The Israelis illegally settling in Palestine may actually be Christian, atheist or in fact fucking Muslim themselves.

No wonder you posted as AC, I too would be ashamed to have made such an ignorant and stupid statement.

Lets tell it like it is (-1, Flamebait)

Chrisq (894406) | more than 2 years ago | (#38779939)

This is what happens when any country is run by Muslims. We see it in Iran, Pakistan, Iraq, etc. These countries really are better off under dictators rather than leading themselves, compare Saudi Arabia to Somalia. We will see a lot more of this in the "Arab Spring" countries. I expect to be modded down by the PC crowd with their "all belief systems are equal" and "a Theocracy can be just as good as secular democracy (as long as it isn't Christian)" comments but they are just ignoring what actually happens whenever Muslims get into power. Surprise surprise they follow the teaching of Islam - from a demented warlord with a taste for little girls.

Re:Lets tell it like it is (2)

qxcv (2422318) | more than 2 years ago | (#38779977)

This is what happens when any country is run by insert religion here. We see it in Iran, Pakistan, Iraq, etc. These countries really are better off under dictators rather than leading themselves, compare Saudi Arabia to Somalia. We will see a lot more of this in the "Arab Spring" countries. I expect to be modded down by the PC crowd with their "all belief systems are equal" and "a Theocracy can be just as good as secular democracy (as long as it isn't Christian)" comments but they are just ignoring what actually happens whenever insert religious group here get into power. Surprise surprise they follow the teaching of insert religion here - from a demented warlord with a taste for little girls.

Bonus points: come up with five religions that could make the above quote factually correct.

Re:Lets tell it like it is (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38780193)

Hah - trick question, I see what you did there. The correct answer is that religion is irrelevant. People are dicks, regardless of what beliefs they hold. Religious dicks just seem to take it to extremes. (AC to preserve mod privileges on story)

Re:Lets tell it like it is (3, Interesting)

jimicus (737525) | more than 2 years ago | (#38780003)

Not, I would say, a particularly PC view, and doubtless one that will get you modded troll quicker than a quick thing. But I would temper your view with a rather more - shall we say diplomatic? - way of putting things.

Some views are fundamentally incompatible and unless both parties are prepared to compromise, conflict will ultimately result. Full stop, end of conversation. Get together people who feel strongly enough to kill to make their point and give them the means to do so, you probably shouldn't be too surprised when they do. There's no way of getting around this, and to pretend there is is probably the most damaging thing extreme political correctness has ever achieved.

In this case, the conflict is between very conservative Muslims who happen to be in charge of a country and the West, but it could just as easily be between animal liberation people and drugs testing labs.

Re:Lets tell it like it is (1, Insightful)

Chrisq (894406) | more than 2 years ago | (#38780083)

Not, I would say, a particularly PC view, and doubtless one that will get you modded troll quicker than a quick thing. But I would temper your view with a rather more - shall we say diplomatic? - way of putting things.

Some views are fundamentally incompatible and unless both parties are prepared to compromise, conflict will ultimately result. Full stop, end of conversation. Get together people who feel strongly enough to kill to make their point and give them the means to do so, you probably shouldn't be too surprised when they do. There's no way of getting around this, and to pretend there is is probably the most damaging thing extreme political correctness has ever achieved.

In this case, the conflict is between very conservative Muslims who happen to be in charge of a country and the West, but it could just as easily be between animal liberation people and drugs testing labs.

Islam is not just incompatible with the west but fundamental principles such as equality, freedom of speech, freedom of religion, right to life (for homosexuals etc.), democracy, and a lot more. Its true that some animal testers would go to war with anti-vivisectionists and vice versa, but they would want a reformulation of laws that would apply to everyone - they would not want to prevent certain sections from expressing their view or testifying in court. Islam is fundamentally opposed to our ideas of rights and equality.

Agreed. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38780129)

A country run by (fundamentalist) Muslims is not a good idea. Same goes for fundamentalist Christians. Or fundamentalist whatever.

To have any moral standing you'd have to fight death penalty in your own country.

Media Manipulation (-1, Flamebait)

Wolfling1 (1808594) | more than 2 years ago | (#38779945)

Oh look! /. is jumping onto the anti-Iran media bandwagon. Fancy that!

I never would have expected such blatantly obvious media manipulation from such an independent website.

What's the punctuation mark for bad sarcasm called?

Re:Media Manipulation (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38780027)

Independent? Don't you know that Slashdot is controlled by world jewry, just like everything else? Read the protocols of their elders for some evidence.

Re:Media Manipulation (1)

dkf (304284) | more than 2 years ago | (#38780085)

Read the protocols of their elders for some evidence.

What, like Telnet and UUCP and stuff like that?

Re:Media Manipulation (1)

Zaldarr (2469168) | more than 2 years ago | (#38780127)

It is an exclamation mark in brackets, and it doesn't have a name. [English nerd here]

The mercy of Allah (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38779967)

An ICHRI report published in mid-January said that Iran has hanged an average of one person every eight hours since the beginning of the new year.

Ah, the mercy of Allah I've been hearing so much about...

british soldiers (1)

shentino (1139071) | more than 2 years ago | (#38779981)

Remember all those british sailors who got captured for sailing into their territorial waters?

Again, forced confessions, torture.

Iran is probably just flexing its muscles in an attempt to assert sovereignty.

We should expect such activities (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38780041)

If america is going to shut down websites and prosecute foreign citizens (MegaUpload.com) for violation of OUR laws then we should expect the same from foreign countries. Whats good for the goose is good for the gander.
Im Just Sayin

Re:We should expect such activities (1)

jamesh (87723) | more than 2 years ago | (#38780101)

If america is going to shut down websites and prosecute foreign citizens (MegaUpload.com) for violation of OUR laws then we should expect the same from foreign countries. Whats good for the goose is good for the gander.
Im Just Sayin

So take the guys cars away from him.

OTOH, maybe this is just the start of the outsourcing of the death penalty by the US. "Attention MegaUpload.com guy, due to technical difficulties the plane currently extraditing you to the US for trial is making a brief stopover in Iran. Feel free to get out and stretch your legs.".

Re:We should expect such activities (1)

qbast (1265706) | more than 2 years ago | (#38780187)

... or have them stretched for you. Torture? No, we don't do it here! This is just 'enhanced physical activity'.

How long until the Teabaggers... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38780053)

How long until the Tea Party nutters try to bring this culture to the US? They'll be putting people to death for working on pro-choice or gay web sites and sites that display sex. Those nutters will stop at nothing to ensure that we all worship Christ or die trying to save us from ourselves.

thanks for information (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38780061)

thanks for information islami evlilik [sevdimseniben.com]

The RIAA and MPAA are jealous (2)

Required Snark (1702878) | more than 2 years ago | (#38780067)

If they had their way, this is the kind of "justice" that they want: the worst penalty they can get away with, using the full power of the state, and no effective appeal. In both cases, tyranny is the desired result.

Re:The RIAA and MPAA are jealous (1)

Gaygirlie (1657131) | more than 2 years ago | (#38780147)

It's just a matter of time, really.

Globalized injustice (1)

G3ckoG33k (647276) | more than 2 years ago | (#38780087)

Globalized injustice...

Iran currently has one among the most insulting and desecrating governments on planet Earth.

It is one among many countries who detain foreign nationals without a proper legal system, and like many other 3rd world countries it has retained the death penalty.

How many countries act on these lethal principles? I don't know, but the list is long and is typically related to countries where the populace and those who believe in supernatural forces have a say on the political agenda.

A Pitiful lot, these iranians and muslims (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38780135)

So, a piece of software for photo uploading can damage islam? WHat a f*cking weak religion.

Looks more like maybe he was the sole inheritor of property of his father, and someone wanted him out of the picture. So they came up with the grand charge of 'insulting islam' and bribed some judges..

Tell me, according to these islamists, is there any person alive on earth (except those unwashed bearded mullas) who are not guilty of insulting islam some way or the other?

Heck, everyone connected with any part of internet would all be guilty of insulting islam and therefore target for murder, then.

Porn is bad but not actual sexual assault? (1)

J. J. Ramsey (658) | more than 2 years ago | (#38780181)

"Once in October 2008 the interrogators stripped me while I was blindfolded and threatened to rape me with a bottle of water."

So the Iranian government is worried about porn, but it's okay for its interrogators to threaten sexual assault? How does this make any sense?

Governments are inherently evil. (2)

roman_mir (125474) | more than 2 years ago | (#38780211)

Never forget [slashdot.org] that governments are inherently evil, because they occupy the space that is historically occupied by the inherently evil forces that fight for power over people.

That's why Constitution is important - law above the government set by the people to limit what government can do.

That is why people who should really be supporting a system of laws set by the Constitution, but who find themselves defending government's action that go above and beyond any Constitutional restrictions are so confused. Often those are the people who want government to cuddle them and give them entitlements and put obligations on others to provide those entitlements, but then government gains strength over all people and those who rely on entitlements are the ones who are going to suffer at the end, because those don't want entitlements can already take care of themselves and always see a government for what it is.

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