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Russian Scientist Claims Signs of Life Spotted On Venus

samzenpus posted more than 2 years ago | from the we-are-not-alone dept.

Space 272

flergum writes "Leonid Ksanfomaliti, an astronomer based at the Space Research Institute of Russia's Academy of Sciences, analyzed photographs taken by a Russian landing probe during 1982 and claims to have found signs of life. Ksanfomaliti says the Russian photographs depict objects resembling a 'disk,' a 'black flap' and a 'scorpion.'"

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WWCSD? (5, Insightful)

Zaldarr (2469168) | more than 2 years ago | (#38791649)

"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" -The Sagan Standard

Re:WWCSD? (5, Funny)

nirgle (554262) | more than 2 years ago | (#38791681)

What Would Charlie Sheen Do?

Re:WWCSD? (5, Funny)

Gideon Wells (1412675) | more than 2 years ago | (#38792059)

Claim he has Venusian Scorpian blood?

Re:WWCSD? (2)

trum4n (982031) | more than 2 years ago | (#38792173)

And then snort it?

Re:WWCSD? (3, Insightful)

LoyalOpposition (168041) | more than 2 years ago | (#38791811)

"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" -The Sagan Standard

"I get to decide which claims are extraordinary and which claims aren't." -The Opposition Standard

~Loyal

Re:WWCSD? (5, Funny)

alphatel (1450715) | more than 2 years ago | (#38791813)

I for one, welcome our new disk, black flap, and scorpion overlords.

Re:WWCSD? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38792083)

It sounds like you married my ex-wife.

Good luck; you'll need it.

Re:WWCSD? (1)

LWATCDR (28044) | more than 2 years ago | (#38791855)

I find it more interesting that an astronomer is making the claim than say a biologist.
It does seem very unlikely that a complex life from like a scorpion would live on Venus. If they do then it will be huge but the odds are really high that it is just an error.
 

Re:WWCSD? (1)

NatasRevol (731260) | more than 2 years ago | (#38792195)

Well, huge scorpions might explain the sighting on lower resolutions pictures - from 1982.

Re:WWCSD? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38791877)

Extraordinary vodka gives you extraordinary mirages...

Re:WWCSD? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38792185)

Except in Space Nutter threads, where every single delusion, daydream and impossible idea is a cold, hard practical engineering reality.

So... (1, Offtopic)

stixn (1881538) | more than 2 years ago | (#38791661)

that's why I sold a piece of toast for $50 bucks... it looked like Jesus.

Re:So... (1)

Samantha Wright (1324923) | more than 2 years ago | (#38791863)

You probably would have gotten more if it looked like a disk, a black flap, and a scorpion.

Re:So... (3, Funny)

Hartree (191324) | more than 2 years ago | (#38792017)

"looked like a disk, a black flap, and a scorpion"

Is that like one of those drafting exercises where an object looks like a black flap from the front, a scorpion from the side, and a disk from above?

Re:So... (4, Insightful)

littlebigbot (2493634) | more than 2 years ago | (#38792243)

What in god's name does a "black flap" look like?

Re:So... (4, Funny)

gstoddart (321705) | more than 2 years ago | (#38792303)

What in god's name does a "black flap" look like?

Usually, kinda black and flappy. :-P

Re:So... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38792427)

It looks exactly like a shadow when the camera does not have the contrast capability to provide detail in the dark areas.

Re:So... (1)

gstoddart (321705) | more than 2 years ago | (#38792577)

It looks exactly like a shadow when the camera does not have the contrast capability to provide detail in the dark areas.

Given the complete lack of photos in TFA, I'll stick with my description.

All it says is that "another news source reported that a Russian scientist claims to have found something".

There's absolutely nothing I've been able to find that allows one to reach any conclusions about the ability of the camera to register contrast. Because there are no pictures in the links.

So, black and flappy it is.

Re:So... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38792459)

"Disk, Black Flap, and Scorpion" - best black metal band name?

or best black metal band name EVER?

Or not. (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38791667)

FTFA:

"Ksanfomaliti cautioned that the objects he wrote about seem to “emerge, fluctuate and disappear” in different photographs taken from a variety of vantage points."

So it could be a problem with the equipment, an optical illusion, or both. Merits further investigation, but not conclusive evidence of life on Venus.

Re:Or not. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38791839)

Venus is probably also his girlfriend's name, and he knocked her up. Nothing newsworthy here...

Re:Or not. (1)

DarKnyht (671407) | more than 2 years ago | (#38791845)

Hey, they probably built those martian pyramids that VHS tape I bought in the 80's told me about.

Re:Or not. (3, Insightful)

Gripp (1969738) | more than 2 years ago | (#38792267)

I don't understand why there are not any pictures with this story.

Welcome (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38791669)

I for one, er, well, you know.

Yeess.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38791673)

Signs of life eh?

mirage (3, Informative)

alphatel (1450715) | more than 2 years ago | (#38791677)

Or easily explained by the distortion of a lens by heat in desert conditions - this one a scathing 1k F.

Re:mirage (5, Funny)

AikonMGB (1013995) | more than 2 years ago | (#38791853)

Since when has temperature been measured in kilofarads?

Re:mirage (2)

Samantha Wright (1324923) | more than 2 years ago | (#38791889)

Slashdot eats degree symbols, even if encoded as HTML entities. Alas we cannot poke fun at people for that particular typographical wandering.

Re:mirage (3, Insightful)

afc_wimbledon (1052878) | more than 2 years ago | (#38792595)

Slashdot eats degree symbols, even if encoded as HTML entities. Alas we cannot poke fun at people for that particular typographical wandering.

Neither the SI temperature unit (K) nor the most common (C) require a pesky degree symbol. As the internets is supposed to be worldwide and modern, perhaps chosing one of those units might have been more appropriate?

Re:mirage (1)

cream wobbly (1102689) | more than 2 years ago | (#38791905)

It's an orbital probe. So "desert", yes, but not the way you meant it.

Also, what's a "Kelvin Farad"?

Re:mirage (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38791995)

You tried to be clever but instead you just made an arse of yourself: Kelvin is K, k is kilo. Note the difference of K v. k.

Re:mirage (5, Informative)

K. S. Kyosuke (729550) | more than 2 years ago | (#38792161)

Mirage. Or easily explained by the distortion of a lens by heat in desert conditions - this one a scathing 1k F.

I doubt it. You need temperature variations in order to get this effect (hot ground, colder atmosphere) which is not going to happen on Venus, seeing as most of the heat and light is absorbed in the atmosphere before it touches the ground. You won't even get diurnal temperature variations, as the thermal capacity of the dense armosphere is quite significant, and finally, the convection will smooth out any local temperature inequalities. You simply never get the optical interface necessary for a mirage.

Not true (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38791683)

That was me, the Martian alien. Forgot my toys the last time I've spent my holidays there :(

Re:Not true (1)

rubycodez (864176) | more than 2 years ago | (#38792409)

only martian perverts use the black flap sex toy. get back the in the closet, you freak

No pictures!~ (5, Funny)

zidium (2550286) | more than 2 years ago | (#38791685)

No pictures were included, so how can we form our own, uneducated, opinions???

Re:No pictures!~ (4, Insightful)

sanosuke001 (640243) | more than 2 years ago | (#38791705)

pics or it didn't happen!

Re:No pictures!~ (4, Funny)

the_fat_kid (1094399) | more than 2 years ago | (#38792103)

scorpion flap or gtfo?

Re:No pictures!~ (0)

NatasRevol (731260) | more than 2 years ago | (#38792219)

Pervert.

Re:No pictures!~ (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38792563)

I loled!

Re:No pictures!~ (5, Funny)

KBehemoth (2519358) | more than 2 years ago | (#38791831)

Couldn't find any pictures of the aliens, but I did locate schematics of the exploration vehicle: http://i.imgur.com/gER2w.jpg [imgur.com]

Re:No pictures!~ (1)

azadrozny (576352) | more than 2 years ago | (#38792065)

Sorry, they are copyrighted. Mr. Ksanfomaliti will be happy to share them with you 2077.

Here's a Single Picture (4, Informative)

eldavojohn (898314) | more than 2 years ago | (#38792115)

No pictures were included, so how can we form our own, uneducated, opinions???

This article from Ria Novosti [en.rian.ru] has one picture with attributions to the scientist and journal. I'm not sure what you're looking at but I am guessing that the object outside of the pod is not a device of theirs -- which leads to a lot of speculation and conjecture. I guess I don't know enough about their sensors/cameras that they were using in 1982 to say whether or not this was some sort of aberration or malfunction of the camera due to extreme temperatures. But that's about the best uneducated opinion I can offer you.

Re:Here's a Single Picture (5, Informative)

eldavojohn (898314) | more than 2 years ago | (#38792339)

Scratch that, I just read some lengthy forums that say that's a shattered lens cap. Here's another panorama with said lens cap pieces [kozmedia.com] . The Daily Mail offers this strange image [dailymail.co.uk] as evidence ... but that's The Daily Mail so take it with a grain of salt. If that is what all the fuss is about, I'm a little angry I just wasted this much time. Personally I'd assume my camera is experiencing an anomaly due to it being 867 degrees Fahrenheit outside ...

“Let’s boldly suggest (2)

mapkinase (958129) | more than 2 years ago | (#38791687)

“Let’s boldly suggest"

Let's not.

I'm somewhat skeptical.. to the say the least. (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38791693)

And no pictures highlighting your claim? Damn you!

Scorpions? (4, Funny)

vlm (69642) | more than 2 years ago | (#38791699)

Leonid Ksanfomaliti, ...claims to have found signs of life...objects resembling ... a scorpion

I haven't heard the Scorpions since the 80s. They were pretty good in their niche. Is this a reunion tour?

Re:Scorpions? (1)

chinton (151403) | more than 2 years ago | (#38791943)

They are on their farewell tour. Oddly enough, the tour dates on their web site don't mention Venus. They will go to Russia in April, however. Coincidence? I think not.

Re:Scorpions? (3, Funny)

guttentag (313541) | more than 2 years ago | (#38791947)

Leonid Ksanfomaliti, ...claims to have found signs of life...objects resembling ... a scorpion

I haven't heard the Scorpions since the 80s. They were pretty good in their niche. Is this a reunion tour?

Nope. The summary specifies that the scientist's claims are based on 30-year-old photos, which means they may have been on Venus then (which isn't so far-fetched... they opened for a group called UFO in 1972 and their guitarist then joined UFO [wikipedia.org] , so it's quite possible that the scientist saw a UFO who looked like a Scorpion because he used to be one), but according to Wikipedia they've been back for some time now. In fact, their tour at the time of these photos was called the Blackout Tour. Curiouser and curiouser.

Re:Scorpions? (1)

Ol Biscuitbarrel (1859702) | more than 2 years ago | (#38792057)

Your post rocked me like a hurricane.

Re:Scorpions? (1)

Ol Biscuitbarrel (1859702) | more than 2 years ago | (#38792263)

And hey, there are hurricane-force winds on Venus. See how it all comes together?

Re:Scorpions? (1)

camperdave (969942) | more than 2 years ago | (#38792047)

I liked Banarama's version of Venus [youtube.com] .

Venera pictures (4, Interesting)

troon (724114) | more than 2 years ago | (#38791707)

See this site for the best processed pictures from the Venera missions. Absolutely fascinating stuff those Russians did then.

http://www.mentallandscape.com/V_DigitalImages.htm [mentallandscape.com]

Re:Venera pictures (5, Informative)

troon (724114) | more than 2 years ago | (#38791729)

Er, sorry. Try this newer page:

http://www.mentallandscape.com/C_CatalogVenus.htm [mentallandscape.com]

no pictures (1)

statsone (1981504) | more than 2 years ago | (#38791709)

and saw objects resembling a “disk,” a “black flap” and a “scorpion.”

From this distance? Some telescope.

What is this site? Science or gossip?

Re:no pictures (1)

bws111 (1216812) | more than 2 years ago | (#38791749)

What distance? It says the pictures were from a Russian landing probe.

Re:no pictures (1)

alphatel (1450715) | more than 2 years ago | (#38791837)

A “disk,” a “black flap” and a “scorpion” walk into a bar....

Well, these ought to be interesting pictures... (5, Informative)

orphiuchus (1146483) | more than 2 years ago | (#38791719)

*clicks on article* ...Hmm, ok, no pictures here.
*googles it* http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2090556/Life-Venus-Russian-scientist-claims-seen-scorpion-probe-photographs.html?ito=feeds-newsxml [dailymail.co.uk] .
Yea... I'm no astrocryptozoologist, but that doesn't look like life to me.

Re:Well, these ought to be interesting pictures... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38791899)

What's sad is that this -- an unknown splotch on a picture -- is called "signs of life." I suppose it could be life, but it could be a lot of things. It's about as much evidence of life, as someone not understanding evolution is evidence of creationism. Seriously, it's the exact same kind of logic.

Re:Well, these ought to be interesting pictures... (1)

Walruzoar (514362) | more than 2 years ago | (#38792171)

Dunno about the image in that picture, but at the weekend I saw a REAL scorpion in a bottle of vodka.
I gave it a miss...

Re:Well, these ought to be interesting pictures... (1)

MemoryAid (675811) | more than 2 years ago | (#38792381)

Scroll down to the bottom. The last picture resembles a lifeform. The speech bubble clinches it: "Destroy Dan Dare!"

I, for one (1)

Alter_3d (948458) | more than 2 years ago | (#38791731)

Welcome our new big breasted overlords.... or is it overladies??

Re:I, for one (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38791897)

I dunno, man. The whole "scorpion" bit sorta kills it for me.

Re:I, for one (1)

Remus Shepherd (32833) | more than 2 years ago | (#38792113)

Hey, if you don't find big breasted scorpions [adsoftheworld.com] sexy, then you're just too close-minded to be a russian scientist.

come on, no pics? (1)

PJ6 (1151747) | more than 2 years ago | (#38791739)

Who in their right mind would write an article like that without including the photographs?

And seriously... why do we even see this story here?

Re:come on, no pics? (1)

ArsonSmith (13997) | more than 2 years ago | (#38791825)

Yea it's a bit miss leading. He found a little blue pill and exclaimed, "Zhere be life in my vinus!!" to his wife. That was heard by someone else and this article came of it.

We have to go deeper! (2)

Sockatume (732728) | more than 2 years ago | (#38791743)

Digging back to the original source gets "Solar System Research". Seems like a legit journal:

http://www.maik.ru/cgi-perl/journal.pl?name=solsys&page=main [www.maik.ru]

Re:We have to go deeper! (5, Interesting)

Sockatume (732728) | more than 2 years ago | (#38791797)

The author designed some of the instruments on Venera, in fact. I can find several articles by him in the aformentioned journal but nothing that suggests "aliens".

http://www.springerlink.com/content/0038-0946/?k=Ksanfomaliti [springerlink.com]

Intelligence found (4, Insightful)

gmuslera (3436) | more than 2 years ago | (#38791767)

but on earth. We do pattern matching, even when there is none, we see shapes of gods in cluods, of the future in tea leaves, even faces in the moon and mars. This could have been totally random shapes. But of course, if it was life, specially one that are totally different from what we are used to see, could be a step forward for us, still too much people see earth as the center of the universe.

Zontar (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38791771)

It has to be Zontar [imdb.com] . He is the last surviving member of his species. Leonid Ksanfomaliti has been in communication with him using a plutonium laser. You'll find you can't kill Zontar with a gun because something causes the gun not to be pointing at Zontar when pulling the trigger.

Yahoos (1, Funny)

InsertCleverUsername (950130) | more than 2 years ago | (#38791819)

Sigh... I don't know if anything from Yahoo is even worthy of /. idle. The site is really a testament to what happens when a company stands still. Frequent users are almost exclusively people who landed there after AOL ceased to be a premiere destination (in popular culture). Just like Yahoo, they didn't upgrade and adapt. And that's why their user base is on the left side of the curve and their user-generated content is terrifyingly ignorant.

Come, stare into the abyss of people just smart enough to use a computer: Exhibit A: http://answers.yahoo.com/ [yahoo.com]

I found life in the clouds! (1)

Troyusrex (2446430) | more than 2 years ago | (#38791843)

I was looking up today and say a bunny, a turtle and and man's face! That's WAY better evidence of life than " 'disk,' a 'black flap' and a 'scorpion'".

disk, black flap, and scorpions (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38791857)

I for one, welcome our new disk, black flap, and scorpion overlords.

I for one... (1)

roc97007 (608802) | more than 2 years ago | (#38791929)

...welcome our new disc shaped, black-flapped venusian scorpion masters.

...Too early?...

Aha! (1)

Grindalf (1089511) | more than 2 years ago | (#38791931)

This article is exactly true, well and truly this is so! I have studied these photographs again and again, they clearly deserve a budget to go back again from ROSCOSMOS Any good? :0)

Pareidolia (1)

slb (72208) | more than 2 years ago | (#38791961)

Yeah and there are canals and a giant face sculpture on Mars too. The guy is either suffering from pareidolia [wiktionary.org] or drinking too much vodka.

read the article to the bottom (1)

tverbeek (457094) | more than 2 years ago | (#38791983)

Ksanfomaliti cautioned that the objects he wrote about seem to “emerge, fluctuate and disappear” in different photographs taken from a variety of vantage points.

Translation: They're tricks of the light or other optical illustions.

Picture (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38791987)

This [en.rian.ru] is the only reasonable picture I could find.

Venera images == lava plains (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38791997)

Life? At 400+ deg C? Well, I suppose it's possible in science fiction stories, but the evidence would have to be pretty extraordinary.

(Looks at 1982 Venera 13 [wikipedia.org] pictures again, especially the reprocessed ones by Don Mitchell.)

Uh, no. What is in the pictures isn't much different from a lava plain that you might see in places like Craters of the Moon [wikipedia.org] or maybe Hawaii. Look around hard enough there and you'll find plenty of rocks that superficially resemble all sorts of things. The human visual system is great for imagining familiar shapes in ordinary objects. For example, I have rocks from the beach that look like human faces. That doesn't mean I think they really are fossilized heads of former humans. And motion doesn't mean living. There are plenty of non-biological processes that can induce motion, assuming that whatever this guy is seeing isn't some kind of imaging artifact.

I for one, welcome... (0)

kaizendojo (956951) | more than 2 years ago | (#38792005)

our new disk, black flap, and scorpion overlords.

Weather balloon (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38792007)

The flash of light you saw on Venus was not an alien life form. It was simply swamp gas from a weather balloon trapped in a thermal pocket reflecting the light.

Not unlike ... (1)

fish_in_the_c (577259) | more than 2 years ago | (#38792021)

The comments on these photo's sound very much like the pictures of the monster at Lock Ness.
perhaps the same phenomena underlies the 'realty' of both sets of creatures.

Suppose . . . (1)

NicknamesAreStupid (1040118) | more than 2 years ago | (#38792075)

. . . he's right. What if there is life on Venus, but unlike ours? What if there is a lot of it? Would we, perhaps, be better off ignoring it? Seriously, are we ready for such a discovery? It may sound silly, but I think there is a large segment of the human population who couldn't deal with it.

Re:Suppose . . . (2)

Lucas123 (935744) | more than 2 years ago | (#38792261)

Especially if they were scorpions that could withstand 900 degree temperatures and 1,508lbs of pressure. I'd believe we should defer to the old adage: "let sleeping scorpions lie".

Re:Suppose . . . (0)

Gripp (1969738) | more than 2 years ago | (#38792405)

meh, those people will simply believe the claims are fake - until some priest comes out with a great sounding "this is proof of god" speech...

Pics or GTFO! (1)

bookon (2498166) | more than 2 years ago | (#38792099)

Seriously, this is a non story without pics.

Leonid Whatshisname (1)

sirdude (578412) | more than 2 years ago | (#38792107)

While looking for more information about this Leonid guy, I came across this reference [dopotopa.com] :

The doctor in Physics and Mathematics from Institute of Space Investigations of the Russian Academy of Sciences Leonid Ksanfomaliti has come to an analogous conclusion: "I think, such could take place only under the influence of a radial instrument of a high technological level. Something like the future high-power laser. And for "artists" the lack of energy was not" - he has told at recent scientific conference "Horizons of astronomy: search of extraterrestrial civilisations" which was in the Special astrophysical observatory of Russian Academy of Sciences. L. Ksanfomaliti has calculated: the laser has been established at the altitude about 40 km above the ground.

hmm.

Slavic star gazers (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38792109)

So, this Russian astronomer has gone to the bottle once too much?

Here are some other fine examples of Slavic star gazers:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZ8TjY5WebY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03OPcn80Uzs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FR9YMEt6Xok

Venus life? Based on an old photograph? Hmmm... No.

Independently evolved life would be different (1)

Theovon (109752) | more than 2 years ago | (#38792189)

I suppose there are some chances that some alien life would superficially resemble life on earth. But not likely. Any significant similarity would be more easily explained by a common ancestor. If there is no common ancestor, all bets are off, and since the mutation and selection pressures on another world would be completely different, the resulting life forms would be completely different. Sure, it's more likely than not that they'd be made of carbon, oxygen, hydrogen, etc., and it's likely (because it's such a huge advantage) that they'd use something LIKE DNA to encode information, but it's not necessarily the case that they would use the same chemicals.

Re:Independently evolved life would be different (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38792357)

The could also use DNA and could have evolved using natural selection from the time there were liquid oceans.

Recipe for life on Venus:

          Take 1 rock
          Add N waterbears
          Send to Venus via panspermic process
          Wait 2 billion years

Saw a scorpian? (1)

140Mandak262Jamuna (970587) | more than 2 years ago | (#38792199)

Come on guys, I have seen clouds shapped like a lion, like a baby etc. The ancient astronomers have seen a hunter, a scorpion, a bull, a big bear, a small bear, a girl, a lion etc etc for a long time in the skys with nothing more than a few pin pricks of light. When you have the imagination, you can see anything.

In other news: Signs of Life Spotted in Clouds (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38792259)

This morning I saw signs of a dolphin, a T-Rex on a moped, and Abraham Lincoln.

Reminds of bygone Mars days... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38792341)

Ksanfomaliti cautioned that the objects he wrote about seem to “emerge, fluctuate and disappear” in different photographs taken from a variety of vantage points.

they're geological formations. duh!

Continued on Page 2: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38792373)

Scientists simultaneously confirm that intelligence no longer exists in Russia.

a 'disk,' a 'black flap' and a 'scorpion.' (1)

mcgrew (92797) | more than 2 years ago | (#38792429)

Ksanfomaliti says the Russian photographs depict objects resembling a 'disk,' a 'black flap' and a 'scorpion.'"

Yeah, and NASA took photos of what appeared to be a stature of a human head on Mars, which was actually just a trick of shadow and light.

"Greenhoue effect" (2, Informative)

scorp1us (235526) | more than 2 years ago | (#38792447)

I wish people would stop saying "greenhouse effect" caused the heating. It's simply not true. It is the atmospheric density and proximity to the sun which makes it so hot.

Venus: 93 bar surface pressure, 96.5% CO2, 460C surface temp
Mars 0.00636 bar surface pressure, 95.3% CO2, -63C surface temp

What's responsible for the heating?

Speeking of imagination (2)

sgt scrub (869860) | more than 2 years ago | (#38792545)

I always wondered how long you could keep a baloon aloft on Venus. I would think you would be able to use thermal electric effect (peltier/stirling engine) of altitude vs surface heat to create energy and use the acidic clouds to maintain a lighter than CO2 gas for the baloon -- like a CO2 to SO2 converter or something.

Wear a hard hat (2)

noh8rz2 (2538714) | more than 2 years ago | (#38792569)

Exciting news for Russia, but I hope it doesn't encourage them to launch a probe to investigate the Planet. If so, stay indoors or wear a hard hat!

Looking for the actual pictures? (4, Informative)

aglider (2435074) | more than 2 years ago | (#38792593)

Look here [cosmostv.org]

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