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Team Creates Footwear Recognition System

samzenpus posted more than 2 years ago | from the these-boots-were-made-for-coding dept.

Idle 50

Zothecula writes "Facial recognition might be all the rage in giving computer systems the ability to ascertain the identity of individuals — what with most people having different facial features and all. But a team from the Hasso Plattner Institute in Potsdam, Germany, has taken a different approach to identify users of touch-based tabletop computers like Microsoft's Surface. Instead of focusing on the face, the team has looked in the opposite direction to develop a system known as Bootstrapper, which distinguishes between users based on their footwear ."

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First post. (4, Funny)

Mal-2 (675116) | more than 2 years ago | (#38837241)

If I don't get first post, I guess I was busy changing my shoes.

Seriously, the system is going to break the first time these developers are introduced to WOMEN.

Re:First post. (2)

jamesh (87723) | more than 2 years ago | (#38837305)

If I don't get first post, I guess I was busy changing my shoes.

Seriously, the system is going to break the first time these developers are introduced to WOMEN.

It could be useful at nightclubs though "Seriously... those shoes with _that_ dress? You have to be kidding me. Go away".

Re:First post. (2)

mwvdlee (775178) | more than 2 years ago | (#38837451)

"I'm afraid I can't let you do that, Davina".

Women look at shoes first; men look at asses first (3, Insightful)

Zero__Kelvin (151819) | more than 2 years ago | (#38838111)

"Seriously, the system is going to break the first time these developers are introduced to WOMEN."

The developers clearly are women. If it was developed by men it would be an ass recognition system.

Re:Women look at shoes first; men look at asses fi (1)

Xupa (1313669) | more than 2 years ago | (#38843397)

Seriously, an ass recognition system would break the first time it was introduced to WOMEN! OHH!

Re:First post. (1)

Nimloth (704789) | more than 2 years ago | (#38838393)

I think they already got help from a woman, I've seen a documentary on the process on TV [youtube.com] the other day...

Re:First post. (1)

mcgrew (92797) | more than 2 years ago | (#38842769)

Seriously, the system is going to break the first time these developers are introduced to WOMEN.

No, it will break the first time somebody who bought the same style of shoes as you sits down at your terminal and pens a nasty email to the CEO. Less liklihood with women, who HATE it when any part of their apparrel is the same as another woman's.

Second? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38837261)

Considering the amount of women with 50+ pairs of shoes, GOOD LUCK... Nice shoes, btw

Whatcouldpossiblygowrong? (1)

bjourne (1034822) | more than 2 years ago | (#38837271)

Insert the obligatory comment about how one could easily fool this sytem and therefore their research is completely useless. The researchers did not think about people changing their shoes, but the slashdotters did!

Before you break into a mans computer... (2)

jamesh (87723) | more than 2 years ago | (#38837289)

Before you break into a mans computer, first walk a mile in his shoes.

Re:Before you break into a mans computer... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38838291)

You just made CowboyNeal's computers the safest in the world. No one is putting on those shoes.

Re:Before you break into a mans computer... (1)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | more than 2 years ago | (#38841959)

Once again RMS' foresight reveals itself - this is why he always wears sandals, it causes the system to throw an error :-P

useless (0)

Karmashock (2415832) | more than 2 years ago | (#38837309)

totally... utterly... useless.

Footwear? I mean... I could see doing something based on scanning people's feet like you do their finger prints. But... their shoes? Really?

You might as well classify people by their choice in beverages.

Re:useless (1)

somersault (912633) | more than 2 years ago | (#38837475)

You might as well classify people by their choice in beverages.

People do that all the time.

Re:useless (1)

davewoods (2450314) | more than 2 years ago | (#38843903)

But they do not do it in order to secure whatever type of computer system they happen to be using.

Re:useless (1)

somersault (912633) | more than 2 years ago | (#38845049)

I didn't say it was a valid concept, I just said that people do it! People are stupid. :p

Team Creates Footwear Recognition System (4, Funny)

jamesh (87723) | more than 2 years ago | (#38837333)

Team Creates Footwear Recognition System

Did the team consist of Sheldon and Penny?

designed by the introverted, for the introverted (5, Funny)

r00t (33219) | more than 2 years ago | (#38837345)

How do you recognize an extroverted engineer? He looks at **your** shoes.

first and last time i RTFA (1)

aepurniet (995777) | more than 2 years ago | (#38837371)

i honestly thought there would be sensors in the floor, to determine foot size, gate, and pressure differences while walking and standing.

honestly though this seems more like an exercise than a full fledged effort at the problem.

Re:first and last time i RTFA (1)

mwvdlee (775178) | more than 2 years ago | (#38837471)

I first thought it would be a system to recognize shoeprint, size, stance, etc. perhaps using a large grid of tiny pressure sensors or a camera facing upward through a transparent floor or something really clever. Instead it's just a far less capable version of facial recognition.

Re:first and last time i RTFA (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38838765)

Unless I'm missing something (quite likely), visual recognition still has a long way to go. I'd be impressed if someone wrote a system that could determine objects based on a fraction of an image of that object. To identify an 'F' as an 'F', no matter the orientation or to identify a Cessna 310, simply by seeing a section of the tail--that would impress me.

Some code like that, I would think, would be much better than cheap tricks and gimmicks. It'd be interesting to see OCR or a search engine, based on partial objects. Was hoping Google Goggles was up to par, although, didn't have much success when playing with it.

Anyone know of any projects like Zdenek Kalal's OpenTLD? It'd be nice to play with similar ideas, not bound to developers with a Matlab license.

Re:first and last time i RTFA (1)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | more than 2 years ago | (#38841995)

I thought it would recognize footprints and compare minor details, the same way tire treads can be traced back to cars.

But this looks at the top of your shoes instead. If you want to be anonymous just wear black formal shoes, they all look the same.

In a recessionary economy... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38837379)

Some people will do anything to look busy!

CSI:Heidelberg / Bloodhound (1)

PolygamousRanchKid (1290638) | more than 2 years ago | (#38837417)

I'm sure I've seen this on one of the many CSI cities already: the wall screen flashes pictures of shoes from the national strategic shoe database, until it stops with a match. Guilty person found.

Hmmm . . . Hasso Plattner? SAP founder? What does SAP want to do with this footwear recognition system . . . ?

Half seriously, why not get a bloodhound to sniff the shoes? It should be able to recognize someone who is naughty or someone who is nice, friend or foe, really fast.

Although, when the poor critter has to smell my shoes in the summer, it would roll over and die . . .

no long arms aloud (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38837637)

so user A leans over tablet surface and 'touches' user Bs area even though a distinct set of shoes are shown on user As and user Bs side of the unit?

sounds like fail.

And then... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38837639)

A new level of pointless technology was reached.

Mod OP up/down to (1)

vikingpower (768921) | more than 2 years ago | (#38837933)

**idle**

Future email to sysadmins (2)

rcasha2 (1157863) | more than 2 years ago | (#38838085)

"I think someone stole my shoes. I need new shoes."

"My shoes were hacked!"

Microsoft's Scarface (1)

G3ckoG33k (647276) | more than 2 years ago | (#38838143)

Microsoft's Scarface, yes that is how I first read it, honestly. That it may also be considered offensive, I take that as a bonus.

What can you think of rhyming with "Microsoft's Scarface"?

Yet another nifty yet useless prototype... (1)

zedrdave (1978512) | more than 2 years ago | (#38838147)

And it will work so much better than facial recognition, because no two people wear the same shoes. And people always wear the same pair of shoes to play games.

Aren't most shoes mass produced? (1)

Attila Dimedici (1036002) | more than 2 years ago | (#38838163)

Who thought this was a good idea. Most shoes are mass produced. I bought mine off the shelf at a store that had 10 more just like them in various sizes. Exactly who was it who thought that what type of footwear someone wears would be unique to that person.

Re:Aren't most shoes mass produced? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38839875)

I work with the military we all have the exact same shoe (aside for size)
I'm going to guess it would have a little trouble for us.

so sad. (1)

Gravis Zero (934156) | more than 2 years ago | (#38838271)

i can tell you right now that they have gotten a patent on this already and probably for recognizing everything from socks to shirts to hair styles.

BANG! (1)

RedHat Rocky (94208) | more than 2 years ago | (#38838435)

So, they watch Big Bang in Germany?

Or are the Big Bang writers secret followers of Hackerdom?

Bazinga!

Re:BANG! (1)

sexconker (1179573) | more than 2 years ago | (#38840569)

So, they watch Big Bang in Germany?

Or are the Big Bang writers secret followers of Hackerdom?

Bazinga!

Project SHOE

Rule 36 (2)

Kozar_The_Malignant (738483) | more than 2 years ago | (#38838549)

Techie shoe fetishists?

Didn't Penny already create an app for this? (1)

Dcnjoe60 (682885) | more than 2 years ago | (#38838579)

Didn't Penny already create an app for this?

Re:Didn't Penny already create an app for this? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38846157)

Well she was interested only in the shoes not the person wearing them.

Tiny Feet (1)

kiehlster (844523) | more than 2 years ago | (#38838609)

If this could determine shoe size, then there will be a sudden demand for engineers and scientists with tiny feet working for the defense department. You could fake someone's iris and fingerprints, but unless you can fit into a very small pair of shoes, you're not going to have much luck. And that would probably eliminate a good portion of the American population from defense contracting.

Re:Tiny Feet (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38840971)

...but unless you can fit into a very small pair of shoes, you're not going to have much luck

Unless I just cut off the feet while they still have the shoes on them.

Sneaky! (1)

VortexCortex (1117377) | more than 2 years ago | (#38838665)

So, they could install these sensors to track me from place to place without my knowledge?

Hmm.... [tiptoes away]

Dummest. Idea. Ever. (0)

pscottdv (676889) | more than 2 years ago | (#38839291)

n/t

Snooping (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38839857)

Just an excuse to put a webcam under the desk.

explain to me (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38840411)

explain to me why the best way to identify people with a touch screen would not be their fingerprint....

Re:explain to me (1)

ceoyoyo (59147) | more than 2 years ago | (#38844263)

Resolution?

Not gonna work so well (1)

russotto (537200) | more than 2 years ago | (#38840651)

Bootstrapper, allow me to introduce you to the modern miracle of mass production. Mass production, meet bootstrapper. OK, now, break's over, mass production -- get back to work.

That is nothing... try a little higher.... (1)

Wdi (142463) | more than 2 years ago | (#38840907)

Japanese researchers have recently created a system which identifies drivers by recognizing their asses in the driver's seat:

http://e.nikkei.com/e/fr/tnks/Nni20111213D13JSN01.htm

Ha! Anyone can change shoes... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38842001)

...alternative is, distinguish users based on the skid marks on their underwear!

Oh, you don't wear underwear? Time to start researching butt cheek distinguishability...

Wreck a nice feat (n/t) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38847919)

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