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Facebook's Oregon Data Center Uses As Much Power As Entire County

Unknown Lamer posted more than 2 years ago | from the zynga-unveils-reactor-ville dept.

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1sockchuck writes "The first phase of the Facebook data center in Oregon uses 28 megawatts of utility power, local officials said this week. That's not extraordinary for a facility of that size in most data center hubs. But it stands out in Crook County, Oregon where all the homes and business other than Facebook use 30 megawatts of power. The economics of Facebook's presence in Oregon are outlined in a new study, which asserts that the Prineville facility has brought tens of millions of dollars into the local economy. The second phase of the Facebook project is now underway, and the local utility grid is being expanded to add capacity." The study claiming economic benefits was commissioned by Facebook (reader beware).

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Indeed (4, Funny)

korgitser (1809018) | more than 2 years ago | (#38875253)

I have always noticed, the bigger you get, the more power hungry...

Spying on people is costly. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38875691)

n/t

Go the Apple way (-1, Offtopic)

treuf (99331) | more than 2 years ago | (#38875255)

They should think about apple's future headquarter, which will have its solar plant to save a lot on power usage.
With a such big power need - they could build their own power facility (be it renewable or not).

Re:Go the Apple way (1)

gl4ss (559668) | more than 2 years ago | (#38875309)

and build it in africa?

maybe they figure they're not in the electrical generation business, it's more practical if you can buy hydroelectric..

Re:Go the Apple way (2)

BrentH (1154987) | more than 2 years ago | (#38875625)

Actually, that makes a lot of sense.As long as they have a fat pipe to the internet, who cares where the datacenter is. Costs will be lower in Africa, and solar panels make a lot more sense there.

Re:Go the Apple way (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38875879)

Costs in Africa are enormous. For power, both grid and fuel supply are unreliable, so onsite generation and large storage are a must. Latency to users in the US, Asia and Europe is crippling, and corruption is massive, it will drag your deployment out for years.

Re:Go the Apple way (4, Insightful)

K. S. Kyosuke (729550) | more than 2 years ago | (#38875903)

Actually, that makes a lot of sense.As long as they have a fat pipe to the internet, who cares where the datacenter is. Costs will be lower in Africa, and solar panels make a lot more sense there.

Go to Iceland instead. Lots of hydro power, cooling not a problem, halfway between two of the most important regions to serve...

Re:Go the Apple way (4, Informative)

Hadlock (143607) | more than 2 years ago | (#38876083)

The FB datacenter already runs on hydro power (they're like, 30 miles from the columbia river, which generates something like 50% of the hydroelectric capacity in the US), with an average year round temp in the high 50s.

Re:Go the Apple way (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38876589)

i guess it does make a lot of sense if you're trying to export US jobs to other countries. in turn, that goal makes sense if you would like to see the US die.

Re:Go the Apple way (1)

ciderbrew (1860166) | more than 2 years ago | (#38875323)

I'm not too sure why either would want to get into the power business. But they should could waste some capital on some future power tech for kudos.
They can't build Tony Stark's Arc reactor; but they can find some green pie in the sky equivalent. Install solar power on every house in the town. There they've just helped the grid for a few hours a day. Not a bad idea that.

Re:Go the Apple way (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38875623)

The Apple way? Oh, you mean outsourcing American manufacturing jobs to China?

Re:Go the Apple way (1, Insightful)

stewbacca (1033764) | more than 2 years ago | (#38876571)

Apple has 40,000 US employees and 20,000 international employees (not outsourced, they support their respective regions). They also provide all their US tech support from the US, not outsourced.

Paying a contractor to assemble 10,000 iDevices a day in the only place on the planet with that type of manufacturing capacity is not the definition of "outsourcing" you are looking for.

Re:Go the Apple way (3, Insightful)

TheLink (130905) | more than 2 years ago | (#38875655)

They could use solar to reduce their electric bill, but currently it's likely to just cost them more, unless there are subsidies which means taxpayers would be paying for their electricity (in return for hopefully improved solar tech in the long run).

Re:Go the Apple way (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38876455)

Hydro is one of the only technologies cheaper than solar energy. Solar energy is cheaper than coal, nuclear, and wind, presently.

Re:Go the Apple way (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38875801)

You mean, like Apple, they should focus on pure PR spin to make it seem like they care about environmental issues by installing a few panels at their HQ, while simultaneously outsourcing their server farms as Apple does with its production facilities, to heavily polluting regimes like China? I'm not sure I see what you're driving at.

All this.. (5, Funny)

undulato (2146486) | more than 2 years ago | (#38875289)

..so that you can tell people what you had for your breakfast. And then show them.

Re:All this.. (1)

larys (2559815) | more than 2 years ago | (#38875933)

Yeah, it really seems like such a huge waste. For such a popular company, you'd think they'd maybe try to go a bit green or more eco-friendly. I remember the situation when I had to set up an account with the local energy company for my apartment -- they had said most energy was from nuclear, coal, or gas sources. You could opt to buy green power if you wanted to, actually, it was just a little more expensive per kilowatt hour. Anyway, with such a huge footprint on the world, it would be nice if they reduced their consumption footprint...

Re:All this.. (1)

joebagodonuts (561066) | more than 2 years ago | (#38876271)

Hydro-electric is pretty "green/eco-friendly".

Re:All this.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38876401)

Except for all the eco that was once river valley and is now ..... river.

Re:All this.. (1)

stewbacca (1033764) | more than 2 years ago | (#38876579)

You've obviously never been to Prineville, OR. You could fill up 90% of that place with river and nobody would notice.

Re:All this.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38876469)

Not when you share the limited hydro-electric generation capacity with the rest of the country. You can only produce so much hydro electric energy before having to fall back to less desirable methods. Every watt used by Facebook ultimately has to be replaced by other means for the rest of the electric grid.

I was going to post this to my Facebook feed.. (4, Funny)

jamesjw (213986) | more than 2 years ago | (#38875293)

But then i'd be purpetuating the problem somewhat :)

Facebook... (5, Insightful)

SeaFox (739806) | more than 2 years ago | (#38875299)

a source of pollution both on the Net and off.

Re:Facebook... (2)

larys (2559815) | more than 2 years ago | (#38875995)

If beauty is truth, in my eyes, that sentence is gorgeous...

Re:Facebook... (1)

Hadlock (143607) | more than 2 years ago | (#38876055)

Isn't this datacenter powered from hydroelectric power? I think everyone is against burning fossil fuels for power (yay environment!), but whatever environmental damage damming the columbia river did happened 70 years ago. In terms of cleanest, cheapest power, there are few places better suited for a datacenter.

Re:Facebook... (4, Insightful)

Dcnjoe60 (682885) | more than 2 years ago | (#38876311)

Isn't this datacenter powered from hydroelectric power? I think everyone is against burning fossil fuels for power (yay environment!), but whatever environmental damage damming the columbia river did happened 70 years ago. In terms of cleanest, cheapest power, there are few places better suited for a datacenter.

Except that power is dumped onto a grid. If Facebook pulls 32megawatts from the grid, and the hydroelectric dam is providing it, then somebody else's coal plant (or nuclear) is making up the difference. Wasted electricity is wasted electricity.

Re:Facebook... (0, Offtopic)

kiwimate (458274) | more than 2 years ago | (#38876167)

Aaand, bang, there goes the whole conversation. A flamebait comment that gets modded +5 insightful.

Good night, Slashdot. You've reached the point of being more trouble to read in the hopes of finding some genuinely interesting and insightful comments than is worth my time.

How much sooner (1)

gmhowell (26755) | more than 2 years ago | (#38875319)

How much sooner do I have to give up internal combustion engines so that my girlfriend can play farmville? That indian from the 70's is gonna cry a helluva lot more than a single tear when he hears this news.

Re:How much sooner (2)

detritus. (46421) | more than 2 years ago | (#38875663)

Except he was a white guy who played an indian....

blackpeoplemeet (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38875877)

Is you is, or is you ain't, a black people?

http://blackpeoplemeet.com/ [blackpeoplemeet.com]

Re:How much sooner (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 2 years ago | (#38875975)

Fuck ICEs. How much sooner will I be able to have an electric car because of all the development going into batteries because of the proliferation of portable devices?

Clean and cheap energy in Sweden (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38875341)

One approach to handle these large scale datacenters and their need for clean, uninterrupted and secure energy can be to do like Facebook and put them way up in northern Sweden:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/oct/27/facebook-green-datacentre-sweden-renewables

/ Jens

Re:Clean and cheap energy in Sweden (3, Interesting)

geogob (569250) | more than 2 years ago | (#38875379)

Or you could put your data center in Quebec, almost exclusively producing electricity from water and with little problem with cooling 10 months out of 12. There's a reason while so many aluminum plants are present in that Canadian province. Bonus : link the the Chicago network hub is easier from there than from northern Sweden.

With data center like these, they can expect less than 0.03 $CAD per kWh.

Re:Clean and cheap energy in Sweden (2)

ciderbrew (1860166) | more than 2 years ago | (#38875499)

Or you could (bride/ pay off / incentivise / lobby ) facebook to your town in return for jobs. Fuck the environment this is money for money.

You know there's something wrong with computing... (5, Funny)

carlhaagen (1021273) | more than 2 years ago | (#38875351)

...when it costs more energy to blog about your breakfast than it does actually cooking it.

Re:You know there's something wrong with computing (4, Funny)

Hognoxious (631665) | more than 2 years ago | (#38875693)

..when it costs more energy to blog about your breakfast than it does actually cooking it.

You can do both at the same time on a Pentium 4.

Re:You know there's something wrong with computing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38875807)

Ladies and gentleman we have 2001 on the line, hold on...

Oh, they DON'T want their Pentium 4 joke back.

You can keep it!

Re:You know there's something wrong with computing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38875857)

And how soon now until some wag posts "OMG, did you warn them about..." along with a link to the xkcd. It'll be hilarious because we totally haven't seen it before.

It's not Randall's fault, but, xkcd is a cancer on the Internet strangling creativity. Nerds need to stop repeating their boring catchphrases constantly.

Re:You know there's something wrong with computing (2)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 2 years ago | (#38875945)

It's not Randall's fault, but, xkcd is a cancer on the Internet strangling creativity.

If you were right, it WOULD be his fault, because he's the one making it. But you're wrong, because if it weren't for xkcd, we'd just have more star wars quotes or something.

AAF: Ammo Against Facebook (2, Interesting)

vikingpower (768921) | more than 2 years ago | (#38875357)

If it takes as high a power consumption as that of an entire US county to let all these non-grown-ups post their weekend pics in order to make eachother even more envious, then that is one more solid argument against the whole Facebook craze. Down and away with it.

Re:AAF: Ammo Against Facebook (1)

gl4ss (559668) | more than 2 years ago | (#38875489)

yes let's all stop using the internet.

that power is nothing compared to the power it takes to slashdot a site or to the power it takes to run the machines used for reading facebook.

Re:AAF: Ammo Against Facebook (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38876017)

The power to post to my wall is insignificant next to the power of the Force.

Re:AAF: Ammo Against Facebook (1)

Ihmhi (1206036) | more than 2 years ago | (#38875825)

Are you kidding? Without a place to store all of that inane drivel, some of those people might eventually end up here.

I've already heard more than enough about people's morning dumps in various first posts over the years.

Re:AAF: Ammo Against Facebook (3, Insightful)

delinear (991444) | more than 2 years ago | (#38875835)

What do you think all those people would do if they weren't using Facebook? It's not like we'd turn off Facebook and everyone then goes out and plants trees as an alternative. As a means for keeping in touch with friends and family I'd say a site like Facebook has got to be more energy efficient than, say, driving or flying out to visit people on a regular basis.

Re:AAF: Ammo Against Facebook (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38875973)

It's nice to see that you don't even eat your own dogfood: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Viking-Power/153261434691082 [facebook.com]

Re:AAF: Ammo Against Facebook (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38875993)

Herpderp.

Then someone would come up with something different that does the same thing and we'd be in the EXACT same situation. This is what we have, might as well use it (or in your case, buzzkillington, not).

You're just bitching against FB because it's the cool thing to do. Hey, you're not that cool.

Re:AAF: Ammo Against Facebook (3, Interesting)

kiwimate (458274) | more than 2 years ago | (#38876201)

And Slashdot is any better?

At least Facebook allows you to delete your account (keeping data around is another story). Slashdot doesn't even bother pretending.

How can I delete my account?

You can't. The system needs to keep track of the users, so accounts are permanent. Don't sweat leaving unused accounts hanging around. It doesn't hurt anything.

And WHO pays? (1)

Jane Q. Public (1010737) | more than 2 years ago | (#38875359)

Utility / power grids are usually financed with tax money. That means taxpayer.

Is Facebook paying for this upgrade? It damned well better be!!!

Re:And WHO pays? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38875641)

Erm, did you actually read anything? They're not building a new datacenter, they're commenting on a existing one that is currently a boon to the local economy there.

Re:And WHO pays? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38875851)

Right, and it says they are upgrading the power grid to support the next phase of the datacenter project. It is right there in the summary.

Re:And WHO pays? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38876357)

Erm, did you actually read anything? They're not building a new datacenter, they're commenting on a existing one that is currently a boon to the local economy there.

Correction. *Facebook's paid-for study* says they are a boon to the local economy. There's no independent verification because the county couldn't be bothered to perform due diligence to verify taxpayer money wasn't being wasted.

Energy per user (0)

jones_supa (887896) | more than 2 years ago | (#38875363)

Well, if we only count the Oregon data center (28 MW) and Wikipedia tells FB has 800 million active users, that alone makes it average 35kW to serve one person. :S

Re:Energy per user (4, Informative)

lazy_playboy (236084) | more than 2 years ago | (#38875385)

28,000,000 / 800,000,000 = 0.035 Watts/user

Re:Energy per user (2)

L4t3r4lu5 (1216702) | more than 2 years ago | (#38875935)

28,000,000 / 800,000,000 = 0.035 Watts/user

If they only had one data centre.

They have a European data centre in Sweden, and has at least nine across the US [datacenterknowledge.com]
br.That's still only 0.35W per user, but an order of magnitude is huge no matter who you ask.

Re:Energy per user (2)

MightyYar (622222) | more than 2 years ago | (#38876151)

It's conceivable that all the datacenters aren't 35MW.

Re:Energy per user (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38875485)

Does the ridiculous figure you come up with not make you question your working? 35 electric fires constantly on per user of facebook? In one datacentre? Are you high?

I pray you are not in any science or engineering disciplines ...

0.035 Watts/user you spoon

Re:Energy per user (1)

Tassidus (2562187) | more than 2 years ago | (#38875567)

+1 for using the insult spoon!

Re:Energy per user (4, Funny)

jones_supa (887896) | more than 2 years ago | (#38875729)

Does the ridiculous figure you come up with not make you question your working? 35 electric fires constantly on per user of facebook? In one datacentre? Are you high?

My calculation was sponsored by the Green Party.

Re:Energy per user (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38875829)

+1 for conspiracy theory inserted into a man-up to your mistake post.

Re:Energy per user (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38875847)

you mean 35 Milliwatt? OK, it's just 6 orders of magnitude you are wrong, the number itself was correct... :-p

Crook County (5, Informative)

dabadab (126782) | more than 2 years ago | (#38875381)

I looked it up so you don't have to: Crook County is inhabited by 20k people, its economy largely consists of agriculture and tourism so it's no wonder that they do not use massive amounts of electricity.

Re:Crook County (2)

Seumas (6865) | more than 2 years ago | (#38875647)

Same here. Why would anyone be surprised that a data center that serves about one billion people uses more power than a county with less than 20,000?

Re:Crook County (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38876319)

Are we sure somebody isn't leeching off the FB DC power lines to light up their basement for 'agricultural' purposes.
You don't think that Crook County would be full of honest farmers, do you?

We can only hope (1)

Hognoxious (631665) | more than 2 years ago | (#38875451)

It'd be a pity if they got raided by the DEA. [slashdot.org] A real pity.

Re:We can only hope (1)

SeaFox (739806) | more than 2 years ago | (#38876107)

With all the pictures of people doing illegal substances I'm sure are on Facebook, I would think having the DEA raid the place for evidence isn't that far of a stretch.

How much is 28 Megawatt? (5, Interesting)

gnasher719 (869701) | more than 2 years ago | (#38875463)

A few years ago I visited a nuclear power station, and 28 Megawatt was about the output of the ship's diesel engine that they had on standby for emergency power supply to be able to run cooling systems etc. in case the power station itself breaks down and it can't get power from other power stations. I think it is also about what a large cruise ship needs for all its electrical needs. Seems to be a very small county that they are talking about.

Re:How much is 28 Megawatt? (2)

tsadi (576706) | more than 2 years ago | (#38875533)

You're right, 28MW is not a lot. I've seen a 20MW diesel generator, and the engine is just a little bigger than a construction dump truck.

Re:How much is 28 Megawatt? (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38875603)

I've seen a 1.21 GW generator too and it's only the size of a DeLorean.

Re:How much is 28 Megawatt? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38875977)

I've seen a 1.21 GW generator too and it's only the size of a DeLorean.

I'm pretty sure that was 1.21 JW.

Re:How much is 28 Megawatt? (1)

b0dge (1720126) | more than 2 years ago | (#38876147)

I've always thought it was a mispronounciation of "Giga-Watt"...

Re:How much is 28 Megawatt? (4, Informative)

vlm (69642) | more than 2 years ago | (#38876009)

The most obvious comparison is its about 10 or so modern diesel electric locomotive engines, if you assume 2500 or so HP per engine, which is probably not a bad guess for your average generic engine... Spare me the anecdote that there exist like 4 Aclea Express engines in the USA that have 6000 HP, and I'm well aware coming from a three generation railroad family that there are some astounding coal haulers out there.

There are probably more than 10 diesels in my county right now... coal plant, despite the best efforts of the govt some industry still remains, multiple short range commuter rail and also some long range commuter rail, multiple intermodal transfer stations, a small but respectable great lakes "sea"port (which is admittedly frozen in right now)

That's absolutely huge (1)

EmagGeek (574360) | more than 2 years ago | (#38875469)

28 Megawatts comes to a little over 20GWh per month. If I were to pay my residential rate, that would cost me a cool $2.2 Million per month.

What a waste of energy (0, Flamebait)

EmagGeek (574360) | more than 2 years ago | (#38875479)

Why are we allowing a company to consume precious resources just so people can tell the world when they take a dump?

Re:What a waste of energy (1)

equex (747231) | more than 2 years ago | (#38875657)

Thats the free market. If there's a market for telling people when they took a dump, someone will provide the service.

Re:What a waste of energy (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38875821)

Why are we allowing a company to consume precious resources just so people can tell the world when they take a dump?

Mainly because different people's perceptions of what is and isn't important varies massively. Personally I'm not a fan of Facebook and I don't have an account, but friends of mine tell me it's incredibly useful for keeping in touch with old lab mates who have since moved abroad to country X or who are stuck at home writing their thesis, for sharing videos, organising nights out, etc.

Your opinion of "I think such and such a thing is pointless, why should we let it consume precious resources" could be used to justify stopping pretty much everything by somebody who objects to it (which in a world as populated and politically varied as ours, would occurr with pretty much everything). Besides, isn't one of the classical justifications for hacking in the inventive and tinkering-with-stuff sense "why does it have to have a purpose? I did it because I thought it was neat"? Whether or not you agree with their opinion of it, a large number of people find it interesting/helpful/entertaining.

Re:What a waste of energy (1)

PolygamousRanchKid (1290638) | more than 2 years ago | (#38875841)

Which is what future archeologists will be asking:

"This site must have consumed so much power . . . to store all this crap . . . we must be missing something! There is something important here hidden in secret code . . . "

" . . . or most of the people on the planet at that time were frivolous imbeciles . . . "

Re:What a waste of energy (2)

squizzar (1031726) | more than 2 years ago | (#38875907)

Like drawing pictures of your hum drum day-to-day activities on the walls of your cave?

Or the diaries of Samuel Pepys?

Re:What a waste of energy (1)

trum4n (982031) | more than 2 years ago | (#38876305)

The problem here: Now stupid people's thoughts will be archived, not just the smart few.

Re:What a waste of energy (1)

DerekLyons (302214) | more than 2 years ago | (#38876101)

As an amateur historian - If I were a future historian (say 500 years from now), I'd just about commit genocide to get access to a couple of days worth of Facebook posts. That kind of access to the records of the daily concerns and activities of the masses is a pearl beyond price. Yes, there's a lot of dreck and minutiae to sort through - but there's also things like current political activities, current daily activities, etc... etc... for millions of people.

Re:What a waste of energy (1)

delinear (991444) | more than 2 years ago | (#38875923)

How is being able to update everyone you know about the banal activities of your average day any less economical than having to go visit them individually to do the same thing (when you factor in transport, etc)? It's only a waste of energy if you assume people not using Facebook sit alone at home in quiet contemplation.

Re:What a waste of energy (2)

Legion303 (97901) | more than 2 years ago | (#38876331)

Good gravy, where do you people get your facts?

Twitter is for telling the world when you take a dump. Facebook is for "liking" when your Twitter friends take a dump. The more you know [tm].

Virtual Countries? Virtual World? (1)

Tassidus (2562187) | more than 2 years ago | (#38875481)

It's quite amusing really. With 800 million users and 50% of them logging on every day (Facebook's stats, not stating they are correct), virtual currencies, ways to communicate and now the fact that to power one website, it requires more energy than a state, do you think there is a chance that we'll get some sort of virtual political presence, with countries banding together to form internet UNs, military coups and dictatorships, just like in the real world? Take the following scenario: - The internet becomes a second "world", not restricted to any particular country but, as it should be, a truly free medium made up of nodes surrounding the globe. (possibly moon hosted facilities to try to make it truly independent) - As a world, you start to get "countries". Facebook, youtube, google. - They get political power to shape the internet and form standards, rules and potentially laws based on it. - Anonymous (bit scary), another UN style thing (in which case do anonymous become terrorists?) or nobody at all policies it, leading to extremely fun sci-fi anarchistic environments So, given that situation, what do you see happening?

Entire county (3, Funny)

Trogre (513942) | more than 2 years ago | (#38875521)

Did anyone else read that as Country? That would have been news-worthy.

Re:Entire county (1)

Cimexus (1355033) | more than 2 years ago | (#38875579)

It could be one very small country :) Like, I dunno, Vatican City.

Re:Entire county (5, Informative)

FrootLoops (1817694) | more than 2 years ago | (#38876119)

That's what I thought initially. The CIA World Factbook includes electricity consumption statistics [cia.gov] for many countries and regions. Note that they're listed in kWh per year; 28 MW translates to about 245,000,000 kWh per year. This puts the data center at around #174 on that list, ahead of Rwanda, Eritrea, Belize, Bhutan, Chad, and Tonga, to pick a few (though note that the data for many of those countries is a few years old, so they may have moved up). For comparison, the entire US is listed at 3,741,000,000,000 kWh per year. This data center is then around 0.007% of the US's power usage.

Since there are something like 3000 counties [wikipedia.org] in the US, assuming uniform distribution, an average sized county would have 1/3000 = ~0.033% of the country's electricity consumption. This county then has around 7/33 ~= 21% of the average population. That average would be ~300 million / 3000 = 100,000 people per county: and indeed, Crook County, Oregon has approximately 21,000 [wikipedia.org] = 100,000 * 21% people. So actually the electricity consumption of the county appears to be quite average, even though it sounds rural from the Wikipedia page.

And if it moves? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38875545)

If the county is expanding their power works and facebook moves its datacenter elsewhere, how used is the county going to feel?

Re:And if it moves? (1)

delinear (991444) | more than 2 years ago | (#38875957)

So the answer to making yourself attractive to large business investment only to have the business later move away is to just not make yourself attractive to large business at all? Sure it's a risk, but Facebook aren't the only company in the world that could make use of such a data centre, and if they're already in your back yard that gives you a massive advantage in trying to keep them there versus some other county/country trying to lure them away.

They must have alot of data (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38875587)

They must have alot of personal data if they need this much power

Handier unit (4, Funny)

srussia (884021) | more than 2 years ago | (#38875649)

The Gore (G). The power consumption at Al Gore's house in August 2007 was around 23,000 kWh.

That gives an average draw of around 30kW.

So this baby sucks a nice round 1 kiloGore (1kG).

Re:Handier unit (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38876283)

Spare us the gore-y details.

Re:Handier unit (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38876459)

So this baby sucks a nice round 1 kiloGore (1kG).

Metric or imperial kiloGore?

So what's happening with all the waste heat then? (3, Insightful)

advocate_one (662832) | more than 2 years ago | (#38875735)

Article's a bit light on any details... but that facility has to deal with all that heat somehow... and using it to provide heating for local residents would be a very good use of it.

Re:So what's happening with all the waste heat the (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38875941)

Use the heat to generate electricity for the datacenter!

Re:So what's happening with all the waste heat the (1)

tgd (2822) | more than 2 years ago | (#38875959)

Article's a bit light on any details... but that facility has to deal with all that heat somehow... and using it to provide heating for local residents would be a very good use of it.

There's a reason, outside of extremely dense cities, you don't see heat distribution happen -- its horrendously inefficient and expensive.

Crook County is farm-country.

Which is why the interest in .... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38875763)

increasing the power efficiency of electronics, esp, the CPU.

misread that (2)

strack (1051390) | more than 2 years ago | (#38875845)

i read that as country. i shit bricks for a fraction of a second. but thats long enough.

Re:misread that (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38876033)

Did you post an update about this on Facebook too?

Re:misread that (1)

FrootLoops (1817694) | more than 2 years ago | (#38876157)

Actually a few particularly underdeveloped countries are below the data center in electricity consumption (eg. Rwanda; Bhutan). I put the details in a comment above under the "Entire county" thread.

Be "green"! (1)

John Hasler (414242) | more than 2 years ago | (#38876125)

Close your FaceBook account.

Phased by phases (1)

mattjk (817841) | more than 2 years ago | (#38876177)

Hope they've got 30MW on the second and third phases too.

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