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Oklahoma Politician Wants To Tax Violent Video Games

timothy posted about 2 years ago | from the fourkiller-sounds-violent-and-unhinged dept.

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dotarray writes "According to an Oklahoma politician, video games help cause many problems affecting the youth of today, but they can also help solve those same problems. Representative William Fourkiller, a Democrat, has proposed a 1% tax on every video game sold which has a Teen, Mature or Adults Only rating. He explains that half of the money would go towards helping to get kids playing outside, while the other half would be placed into a bullying prevention fund."

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Sounds completely logical (5, Insightful)

Overly Critical Guy (663429) | about 2 years ago | (#38906053)

I'm sure throwing money at something will both convince kids to play outside and prevent bullying. Gee, where can I contribute to the "bullying prevention fund?"

"For the children" is one of the basest forms of emotional appeal. The emotional satisfaction justifies it in many people's minds, and to argue against it makes one vulnerable to accusations of not caring about kids.

Re:Sounds completely logical (5, Funny)

trongey (21550) | about 2 years ago | (#38906251)

You misunderstood the article. The 1% will be used to pay bodyguards who will drag the kids outside then pound the crap out of anybody who tries to bully them.

Re:Sounds completely logical (4, Funny)

localman57 (1340533) | about 2 years ago | (#38906395)

Pedro offers you his protection.

Re:Sounds completely logical (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#38906525)

Pedobear offers you better protection... who's gonna mess with a bear?

Re:Sounds completely logical (4, Insightful)

Belial6 (794905) | about 2 years ago | (#38906271)

So, he wants to raise the price of an activity that many kids use to avoid being bullied to stop bullying?????

Re:Sounds completely logical (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#38906443)

Cities all over the country have "thrown" money into free, supervised, municipal skate parks that just happened to be outside. The kids didn't need convincing.

Re:Sounds completely logical (5, Insightful)

Hentes (2461350) | about 2 years ago | (#38906465)

Bullying is not something that can be solved by just money. Give the schools/teachers enough rights to be able to deal with the problematic children, expect them to do so and hold them responsible when they don't.

Re:Sounds completely logical (5, Interesting)

tompaulco (629533) | about 2 years ago | (#38906721)

Bullying is not something that can be solved by just money. Give the schools/teachers enough rights to be able to deal with the problematic children, expect them to do so and hold them responsible when they don't.
Well, before we do that, we need to decide that we are not going to support the current bullying system.
I can think of dozens of different people who have all been punished for eventually standing up for themselves after getting bullied for months. Myself included. I had a bully sitting behind me in 9th grade who would hurl insults at me all the time, thump me in the back of the head, punch me from behind, and generally make me miserable all year long. Finally one day toward the end of the year, after he had done something again I turned around and told him to lay off. He hit me in the eye with a pencil. That was the last straw. I jumped out of my seat and started hitting him. He probably was a foot taller than me and outweighed me by half, but I didn't concern myself with that. The teacher came running it and broke us up. I was sent to the principal's office, my mother was called. She told them how I had been coming home with stories every day about how this kid was picking on me and that she was glad I finally stood up for myself. They gave me swats and sent me back to class where I had to put up with his crap, still sitting right behind me, for the rest of the year.
But I learned a valuable lesson. The authority is on the side of the bullies, so just let them walk all over you, or you will be punished.

Re:Sounds completely logical (1)

DigiShaman (671371) | about 2 years ago | (#38906749)

Exactly. No, the additional tax revenue will go to some generic slush fund anyways. It's just another way to raise government funding via pulling of the heart strings and playing the sympathy violin. Only the suckers will demand an encore. Yet, another swell idea by your elected officials at work.

Re:Sounds completely logical (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#38906585)

Best available response is that this is a horribly regressive tax, and will have much more of an impact on the 99% than the 1%.

Re:Sounds completely logical (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#38906607)

So, would this tax be for all violent games, presumably w/ the specific rating from the ESRB? Would it be for anyone who buys it? Why should adults be taxed for entertainment that isn't intended for younger age-groups than those buying it? Inevitably it will wind up in the hands of that age group despite the industries 'supposed' attempts to stop it? Funny how the advertising for said violent games hits a majority of locations that younger age groups will be exposed to.

There's a very real hypocrisy in the game industry, specifically around violent video game advertising. This type of legislation isn't an answer to a behavioral problem that exists in the home, and understanding between child and parent.

This must be a good idea. (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#38906093)

Look its "for the children"(TM) , we must comply.

Another tax on top of that (5, Insightful)

future assassin (639396) | about 2 years ago | (#38906113)

Tax all kids in school at 1% of their lunch money and use that money to fight bullying in schools. Can we also get a 1% tax on violent blockbusters and tv shows where half off that goes to the movie studios and half goes to violence prevention?

Re:Another tax on top of that (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#38906623)

Tax their subsidized lunch?

New tax (5, Interesting)

durrr (1316311) | about 2 years ago | (#38906115)

I suggest a conditional tax.
1% of total politician networth every time they say something stupid. The deficit would turn to a surplus in a week, especially now during campaign season.

Re:New tax (1)

jd2112 (1535857) | about 2 years ago | (#38906299)

Thank you Mitt Romney! Too bad Donald Trump dropped out already...

Re:New tax (1)

RazzleFrog (537054) | about 2 years ago | (#38906375)

Well Trump is set to endorse Romney and if his endorsement speech is half as crazy as Palin's endorsement of Newt then it still could raise some taxes under this idea. I wonder when these politicians will start begging to NOT be endorsed by these looneys.

Re:New tax (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#38906927)

You do realize that the vast majority of "something stupid" that Mitt Romney "says" is taken out of context, right? And by "out of context" I mean the liberal media (or the current GOP foes) literally cut off the sound bit mid-sentence. That guy is a robot. He doesn't make stupid comments very often. Just do a minute of research on his latest supposed slip-ups, and not on the Huffington Post or MSNBC.

Re:New tax (2)

davester666 (731373) | about 2 years ago | (#38906595)

Except politicians have no actual value, so you'd never generate any money this way.

Newsflash - Politicians are stupid (-1, Troll)

TiggertheMad (556308) | about 2 years ago | (#38906675)

dit dit dit dit dit....dateline Febuary 2nd, 2012:

Concerned that the Republican party nominees are getting too much media attention by saying stupid shit(tm), President Obama announced a new idea for taxing video games. At the press conference, a excited staffer was quoted as saying, 'Ha, lets see those Republican nitwits try to top this idiocy!'


Honestly, do we really need more mommy state laws and taxes for this kind of pointless shit? Ignoring the random and pointless aspect of this proposal, what is a 1% tax on violent video games going to generate revenue wise? We have a single president, with a finite amount of hours in the day, and a trillion dollar economy. Unless he is is working on legislation that is operating in the billion dollar range, I am pretty sure he is wasting his time, and my tax dollars.

Re:Newsflash - Politicians are stupid (4, Funny)

artor3 (1344997) | about 2 years ago | (#38906863)

If you don't understand the difference between a representative in the Oklahoma state legislature and the president of the United States, please refrain from voting. A coin toss would be better informed.

Yes. (1)

Oxford_Comma_Lover (1679530) | about 2 years ago | (#38906781)

So... I wonder if he just doesn't understand the law, or if he understands it and is proposing the passage of an illegal law anyway. Since the First Amendment would not exactly be happy with this kind of tax.

Bright ideas (1)

SuperTechnoNerd (964528) | about 2 years ago | (#38906141)

More bright ideas from you local politician.. Do they all have their head in the sand?

Re:Bright ideas (4, Insightful)

DickBreath (207180) | about 2 years ago | (#38906203)

> More bright ideas from you local politician.. Do they all have their head in the sand?

Yes, but that's not "sand" where they have their head. :-)

M and AO? (5, Insightful)

LordNimon (85072) | about 2 years ago | (#38906153)

Does he not realize that M and AO games are not supposed to be played by children in the first place?

Re:M and AO? (2)

TechnoLuddite (854235) | about 2 years ago | (#38906279)

I was wondering about that myself. Is he saying that it's ok for kids under 10 to play Teen, Mature, and Adults Only games, so long as they pay the tax?

Re:M and AO? (3, Informative)

Darinbob (1142669) | about 2 years ago | (#38906315)

And just what does Desktop Vixens have to do with violence?

Re:M and AO? (1)

localman57 (1340533) | about 2 years ago | (#38906425)

Does he not realize that M and AO games are not supposed to be played by children in the first place?

Yeah, I don't see the point. I mean, from my point of view, It's already working. "Hey! You kids go outside! I want to use the Xbox for a while!". That pretty much happens every time I buy a new M or AO video game.

Re:M and AO? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#38906773)

Yes, of course. It makes total sense. If you're an adult with children and the kids aren't playing outside, they're probably inside hogging the TV and/or computer. If the tax money gets them playing outside, bam! Now you can play more of your M and AO games!

Great idea! (5, Insightful)

Aladrin (926209) | about 2 years ago | (#38906155)

So when those kids go outside and get bullied, there will be a support program for them. -sigh-

The best way to teach out kids that bullying is bad is to stop doing it ourselves, and to teach them it's not okay to pick on others for any reason. Mine taught me, "If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all." For me, it stuck. For others, it apparently didn't, or they weren't taught it. Am I perfect at it? No. But I try.

But a government program to teach it? No way. It'll never work. It has to be something every citizen wants, not something that the government tries to force us into. Actually wants, not just says they want.

I'm not against providing nice, safe outdoor play areas for kids. Hopefully away from my apartment windows and doors. I would have loved to have it as a kid, and I'd love to have them away from my apartment now. But attacking an industry to do so is not the way to go about it.

Re:Great idea! (0)

MightyMartian (840721) | about 2 years ago | (#38906611)

The best way to stop bullying is to have a gallows in the middle of the school yard and hoist every single bully up. They're rotting dead corpses can be a reminder to anyone who thinks its okay to shove some poor scrawny kid into the lockers and steal his lunch money.

In other words, make bullies so fucking terrified to even blink that they either tow the line or, even better, stay home and get started on being vicious alcoholics to their families a few years ahead of schedule.

Re:Great idea! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#38906699)

They're rotting dead corpses

Okay, I'll grant you that bullying is a problem, but I really don't think that we have zombie infestations in our schools.

Re:Great idea! (2)

letherial (1302031) | about 2 years ago | (#38906739)

I personally wouldn't mind paying a little bit extra (1% of 50.00 is not that much); just like the extra tax on the smoking to help kids with healthcare...im ok with that(i smoke) But its got to work, or be viable...most the time these get into stupid programs that use advertisements and stupid slogans..DARE would be a good example. WTF does DARE even mean, i knew it once.....its just to stupid to remember. Education is the key thing here, kids are so moldable but you got to get them before their teen years. Got to stop this in elementary, once they are in the teens, social status is already established and it is harder to stop. education in the class room with teachers that kids listen to, 30 second adds and slogans painted everywhere never got my attention when i was a kid and i doubt its going to compete with laptops/ipads/smartphones etc.., even elementary kids have access to stuff far more superior then what i had as a kid.

Tax the politician (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#38906167)

For having a name like FourKiller.

Re:Tax the politician (1)

retchdog (1319261) | about 2 years ago | (#38906565)

exactly. now, if he were named ULTRA-KILL! we'd know this wouldn't be a problem.

WTH (1)

UberJugend (2519392) | about 2 years ago | (#38906173)

Bullying prevention fund? How about take care of larger social problems and get people back to work or fix the horrible infrastructure in Oklahoma.

Ignorance (4, Insightful)

RazzleFrog (537054) | about 2 years ago | (#38906177)

Amazing that I read this just after reading an article about several suicides in a small town in Michigan. It seems the anti-homosexual leadership in the community and school district basically ignored charges of bullying by students.

Funny how I don't remember a computer game that teaches kids how to be hateful bigots. Pretty sure they got that from their parents and their church.

Re:Ignorance (4, Funny)

Osgeld (1900440) | about 2 years ago | (#38906255)

you apparently never played number munchers

Re:Ignorance (0, Troll)

j00r0m4nc3r (959816) | about 2 years ago | (#38906779)

is that like Carpet Munchers?

MOD PARENT DOWN! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#38906291)

Church, seriously? That's flamebait if I've ever seen it.

Re:MOD PARENT DOWN! (3, Informative)

RazzleFrog (537054) | about 2 years ago | (#38906421)

It's not flamebait if it is the truth. Specifically from the article I am referring to:

"At churches like First Baptist Church of Anoka, parishioners believe that homosexuality is a form of mental illness caused by family dysfunction, childhood trauma and exposure to pornography â" a perversion curable through intensive therapy."

Source: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/one-towns-war-on-gay-teens-20120202#ixzz1lFttG0bh [rollingstone.com]

And it was Minnesota - not Michigan. Had Michigan on the brain from earlier today.

Oklahoma (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#38906191)

A Democratic politician in Oklahoma is equivalent to a Republican politician in most other states.

Re:Oklahoma (5, Insightful)

betterunixthanunix (980855) | about 2 years ago | (#38906563)

Democrats are equivalent to Republicans everywhere, and have been for a long time now.

Again? (1)

Joe U (443617) | about 2 years ago | (#38906197)

When will these idiots learn, you can't impose a pentalty based on content.

Tax all games at 1% or none.

Wouldn't this... (1)

NecroPuppy (222648) | about 2 years ago | (#38906207)

Fall afoul of "restraint of trade"?

Outside? (1)

Harahetta (2481510) | about 2 years ago | (#38906209)

The pasty complexions of those kids driven outside will make poor natural camouflage and leave them easy prey for bullies...

Half, hmm? (1)

nitehawk214 (222219) | about 2 years ago | (#38906217)

The other other half would go to the politician's pet project, which will somehow find its way into his pockets.

Taxing all games the same.. sure, that is up to the state to decide. A sin tax on games that someone "doesn't like". How does that make sense? If their actual concern was to get kids to do more healthy activities, how does taxing a certain class of games help? Presumably sitting inside playing Mario Brothers is just as unhealthy as Modern Warfare. This is just another excuse to get a revenue stream under the guise of "for the children".

Also, how does money get kids to go outside to play, unless they are being directly bribed? How does money get bullies to stop bullying?

And to add to the absurdity; according to the rules, kids aren't playing Mature and Adults Only games, so how does diverting money from them... uhh... *cracke cracke* you're breaking up...

Re:Half, hmm? (1)

blueg3 (192743) | about 2 years ago | (#38906591)

You know, he did say what was going to be done with *both* halves, right?

Lost Logic (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#38906223)

Most games are bought by their parents in the first place, so how would 1% more cost going to tell the parents that their kids should spend more time outside? Not like they tell them already with the $50+ price tag there are on most games these days.

I don't mind taxes if the money is used right, but that is just stupid...

Re:Lost Logic (1)

X0563511 (793323) | about 2 years ago | (#38906639)

I think you're missed something. 1% of a $60 is $0.60. That money is supposed to go to programs etc to help with those objectives - not be a deterrent.

Political contributions should be taxed! (4, Insightful)

kawabago (551139) | about 2 years ago | (#38906235)

Hundreds of millions of dollars are given to politicians every year so they can lie to us about the mess they are making of everything. If half the money given to politicians was given to the poor it could make a significant difference both in the lives of the poor and it would half the bullshit we have to listen to!

Violence okay, but sex is not okay (1)

DickBreath (207180) | about 2 years ago | (#38906239)

Violence is okay. So let's tax it. But if it had anything remotely sexually explicit, then it must be banned.

Re:Violence okay, but sex is not okay (2)

loufoque (1400831) | about 2 years ago | (#38906471)

That's because violence will eventually become part of the kids' lives, while sex shouldn't.

Oh crap, is it the other way around?

Vice taxes (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#38906259)

Admit it, sooner or later some do-gooder was going to try and slap a vice tax on your favorite pastime.

Re:Vice taxes (2)

gorzek (647352) | about 2 years ago | (#38906593)

I suggest we next apply a vice tax to anything related to professional sports. Tickets, merchandise, PPVs, you-name-it. Considering how much bad behavior professional sporting events elicit from fans, it only seems fair.

Sure (1)

eternaldoctorwho (2563923) | about 2 years ago | (#38906261)

And I want to tax absurd Oklahoma politicians.

And get 'em off that "Rock and Roll" music too!! (3, Informative)

elrous0 (869638) | about 2 years ago | (#38906265)

And off my lawn!!!

If it's not one thing, it's another (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#38906273)

Why tax just the violent video games? That's not going to be much of a deterrent. Also, if it is a deterrent, then those that are delusional enough to act on things that they see in a video game will simply act on something that they see in a violent movie or read about in a violent book.

Better idea on what to tax (2)

Schwhat (1993980) | about 2 years ago | (#38906281)

How about a tax on stupid ideas? I bet that country debt will melt away in a few years.

Can't implement a law like this (1)

subanark (937286) | about 2 years ago | (#38906301)

I'm pretty sure you cannot enact laws that are regulated by a private organization. The ESRB (and MPAA) is a private organization, and as such they an only put out guidelines. I'm pretty sure there have been plenty of times in the past where lawmakers wanted to put out a law saying that children can't buy R rated movies, but the most they have been able to accomplish is simply requiring businesses don't lie about the ratings.

Also, not all T and up rated games have their rating due to violence, and many games are simply unrated. I could see businesses releasing special Oklahoma edition of the game that simply is not rated.

Re:Can't implement a law like this (1)

ColdWetDog (752185) | about 2 years ago | (#38906649)

I'm pretty sure you cannot enact laws that are regulated by a private organization.

Sure you can. The feds do it all the time. The Joint Commission [jointcommission.org] (sorry folks, not that kind of joint) is a private organization that has no oversight, no legal standing, no peer review and generally, the common sense of a rabid hamster, but is charged with 'accrediting' hospitals. The accreditation status is baked into a number of laws, rules and regulations.

I'm sure there are are other examples.

The power to tax is the power to destroy. (5, Insightful)

russotto (537200) | about 2 years ago | (#38906321)

If video game content is protected by the First Amendment (and current law indicates it is), then a 1% tax based on contents is just as impermissible as a 10000% tax or a straight-up ban.

Re:The power to tax is the power to destroy. (2)

lexman098 (1983842) | about 2 years ago | (#38906683)

Sin taxes have precedent as well, and a small tax is not the same as a ban. I'm sure this initiative will fail for other reasons though.

Re:The power to tax is the power to destroy. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#38906727)

If video game content is protected by the First Amendment (and current law indicates it is), then a 1% tax based on contents is just as impermissible as a 10000% tax or a straight-up ban.

Tell that to anyone that wants a fully automatic or silenced firearm, or short barreled rifle, or any other NFA gun. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Firearms_Act)
They were all "banned" through extreme taxation. The first amendment isn't any less susceptible from this type of abuse than the second is.

Re:The power to tax is the power to destroy. (1, Informative)

russotto (537200) | about 2 years ago | (#38906915)

New fully automatic firearms are banned, not merely taxed. You cannot register a new one, by the operation of the gun control act of 1986. This is (IMO) a violation of the Second Amendment, but the Supreme Court until very recently was avoiding the issue completely.

The First Amendment has been somewhat less mistreated by the courts, and while a 1% tax on video games might survive judicial scrutiny, I don't think a 1% tax on video games with violent-but-protected content is likely to do so.

Because it's a tax increase... (1)

supersat (639745) | about 2 years ago | (#38906323)

3/4ths of both the House and Senate have to pass it, otherwise it gets put to a public vote.

Of course, the ESA could simply dissolve the ESRB, or refuse to rate any games shipped to Oklahoma. (Yes, the bill specifically mentions the ESRB and its ratings.)

*NOT* a good idea (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#38906329)

The problem here isn't the availability of violent games. The problem here is lack of parental supervision and control. If parents were responsible and acted like parents, they should tell their kids that those games are off limits.

Even if both parents have to work, letting your kids know this isn't okay (and disciplining them should they be caught playing such a game) is what is needed. Legislation and taxes are not.

I swear that the government wants to tax all of our problems away. But the problem with that - people become more dependent upon the state to fix their problems, the less useful and able to solve problems on their own. Sure some may not want to deal with problems themselves. But life is always full of problems that have to be faced and conquered

If Oklahoma does this - what's next? Public toilet per-use tax so the bowls can shine for each user and be more clean? Come on. All law makers passed the ridiculous line a long time ago. If they don't want to do what Americans want them to do, then it is time we removed them from office - by voting them out if possible, and by force if necessary. It is our duties as Americans to stand up to a government that does not represent us.

But (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#38906345)

Why can't we use this Bullying Prevention Fund to stop politicians passing bad laws on the people?

Perpetuating the cliche (1)

goldspider (445116) | about 2 years ago | (#38906361)

I've come a long way from the anti-tax Republican I used to be, but come on buddy, you aren't doing ANYTHING to dispel the "tax-every-problem-away-Democrat" cliche.

Re:Perpetuating the cliche (1)

ColdWetDog (752185) | about 2 years ago | (#38906709)

I've come a long way from the anti-tax Republican I used to be, but come on buddy, you aren't doing ANYTHING to dispel the "tax-every-problem-away-Democrat" cliche.

When the only tool you know how to use is a hammer, everything starts to look like a nail.

This is fine... (1)

alteveer (979070) | about 2 years ago | (#38906383)

...so long as they tax violent movies and television first.

Outside it is. (1)

bardyc (2503380) | about 2 years ago | (#38906441)

Ok, I'll have my kids take their DS outside. Good idea. Tell them it's the law.

They can play also games outside, too. (1)

tmarsh86 (896458) | about 2 years ago | (#38906453)

They can use that tax money to hire bodyguards for the kids to walk around at the playground while playing Angry Birds on their smartphones/tablets. It's a win-win situation; keeping kids safe and employing hard-up people.

No chance of passing (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#38906455)

With a Republican governor, and Republicans controlling both houses of the state legislature, a proposed law for a tax increase sponsored by a Democrat is dead in the water.

Collateral Murder (1)

drobety (2429764) | about 2 years ago | (#38906457)

The people playing that "Collateral Murder" [youtube.com] game are not going to be happy.

Only games that arent taxed are bad (1)

LordLimecat (1103839) | about 2 years ago | (#38906479)

From the article:

Samuel Balaban, the manager of Oklahoma City's Little Shoppe of Games, says kids can also be influenced by violent movies, TV shows and music that aren't taxed.

Mr Balaban went on, "In fact, scientists have recently discovered that TV and music that isnt taxed actually causes cancer."

Lets not forget Comic Mischief (2)

hulabaloo (2566051) | about 2 years ago | (#38906483)

My little fat Johnny who plays Mario Cart all day long was expelled from school for bullying because he was throwing things at classmates who were around him. I say we should tax ESRB: E (Comic Mischief) also!

Nearly 80 dead in Egypt... (5, Insightful)

MrLizard (95131) | about 2 years ago | (#38906499)

...due to a sporting event.

In the United States, sporting events are often associated with violent riots, as well, though with lower death tolls. Europe is well known for its soccer hooligans.

Ever hear of 80 people being killed following a LAN event? Any riots at GenCon or E3?

Didn't think so.

If this guy was sincere, he'd be proposing a 1% tax on sports equipment, sales of licensed sports franchise clothing, etc, and using the money to fund children's hospitals which treat the many crippling (and sometimes fatal) injuries that occur from childhood sports. (Check out the average number of high school students killed in school shootings each year, and the average number of high school students killed in school sports.)

Of course, he's not sincere. "Sincerity" is an alien concept to such as he. He's a vile, contemptible, parasitic piece of verminous scum who exploits fear and ignorance in order to gain power. He is a creature without any personal worth, a loathsome leech who feeds off the misery and pain of others, and grows fat and happy on their suffering. Or, in other words, a politician. Even among that repugnant crew of amoral reprobates, though, people like Fourkiller represent the scrapings of the bottom of a barrel that is, itself, filled with the scrapings from the bottom of the barrel.

Re:Nearly 80 dead in Egypt... (3, Funny)

MarkGriz (520778) | about 2 years ago | (#38906631)

Don't hold back.... tell us how you *really* feel.

Ooh, Ive got one:

"His soul is an appalling dump heap overflowing with the most disgraceful assortment of deplorable
rubbish imaginable, mangled up in tangled up knoooooooooooooots.

Re:Nearly 80 dead in Egypt... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#38906843)

Ever hear of 80 people being killed following a LAN event?

At least three recently, to say nothing of wanton destruction of military vessels and a general nightmarish feeling of unease afflicting two populaces.

Koreans take their Starcraft seriously, dude.

Hypocrite? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#38906543)

So he wants to forcibly take our money? Isn't that bullying?

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Murderers are people too (1)

Tablizer (95088) | about 2 years ago | (#38906575)

Now I'm not just a psychotic killer, but a broke psychotic killer.

Bullying is part of life......... (1)

who_stole_my_kidneys (1956012) | about 2 years ago | (#38906581)

Anti bullying measures? WTF is that supposed to be , a slush fund for political campaigns? Kids need to learn how to deal with bullies not have some one intervene all the time. If your kid killed themselves, then YOU were just a bad parent. And why are you taxing Mature and Adult Only games? these are not meant to be played by your parent-less child. Why should I have to pay for your shitty parenting?

Re:Bullying is part of life......... (1)

MarkGriz (520778) | about 2 years ago | (#38906917)

Anti bullying measures? WTF is that supposed to be , a slush fund for political campaigns?

They could call it The Human Fund [wikipedia.org]

Let's tax westerns and football and rock and roll (1)

Nanosphere (1867972) | about 2 years ago | (#38906605)

Let's tax westerns and football and rock and roll while we're at it, after all they promote violence.

What's that? Nooo? You don't want *your* favorite media having the tax?

I guess it should only apply to video games then, since todays kids are so much more worse [nytimes.com] .

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Wrong (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#38906645)

First of all, if you want to help kids, why would you tax games for adults? Secondly, why tax games, and not school, where all of the bullying happens? And how would a tax help kids play outside or prevent bullying anyway? There's already a zero tolerance on bullying, so it must mean if bullying is still going on, then adults aren't seeing it or aren't aware of it and can't do anything about it. If you want kids to play outside more, that's up to the parent. Why should the government meddle in these things? And if the problems caused by video games are also solved by them, then where's the real problem? So much about this politician's point of view just sounds wrong and misinformed.

DUUUHHHH (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#38906743)

Typical democratic ideology. Money solves all problems.. I can remember when Tipper Gore's PMRC was trying to leverage the same bullshit on what they claimed was 'violent' music.

I like the way that guy thinks! (1)

MarkvW (1037596) | about 2 years ago | (#38906787)

Maybe we could impose a one percent tax on porn and use the proceeds to help the porn purchasers "get outside and play" with real people!

Why (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#38906789)

Why is it that all politicians have the same answer... Tax it!!

If something is good, then it's time to come up with a tax for it.
If something is bad, then it's time to come up with a tax for it.

If something is an unknown mystery to them, then it should be debated for two years, but in the mean time lets tax it "just in case"

video games, sugar, all these things are already taxed at least once... If people want to make their lifestyle choices buying those things, it's not the governments job to stop them.

Disturbing Quote (1)

tonyAG (655960) | about 2 years ago | (#38906797)

Seems this quote applies - from Adolf Hitler, Mien Kampf:
"The state must declare the child to be the most precious treasure
of the people. As long as the government is perceived as working for the
benefit of the children, the people will happily endure almost any
curtailment of liberty and almost any deprivation."

Only for rich (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#38906823)

Violent games should be subject to very high taxes. Teaching about violence to poor children is exceedingly dangerous for our happy society

Faulty Logic (1)

Oswald McWeany (2428506) | about 2 years ago | (#38906849)

I could be incorrect- but I thought I read somewhere in the last two years a large study that reported that violent video-games, contrary to previous opinion, caused less violence. The games kept teenagers off the street AND acted as an outlet for violent expression.

1% is not going to be a deterrant- and wheras it would be nice to have a fund to give children more places to play outside; I don't think such a venture should be based on a morality tax that is based on a faulty premise.

Damn all these new taxes (1)

EuclideanSilence (1968630) | about 2 years ago | (#38906855)

How about, let's stop using taxes to make social manipulations?

Politicians like making up groups of people and products and place little individual taxes on all of them. If they are in front of middle class people, they'll say "We're going to put a tax on the rich". If they are in front of the rich, they'll say "we're going to put a tax on those keeping their money overseas". If they are in front of the really rich, who keep their money overseas, they'll say "we're going to raise capital gains tax" (to protect the wealthy from those who would grow to overtake them).

They'll put a tax on tanning beds to pay for health care. They tax blank CDs to pay for the artist bureaucracy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audio_Home_Recording_Act [wikipedia.org] . There are taxes on food, taxes on things like cigarettes, taxes on just about everything you can point at. Everyone loves the taxes because the only ones that they know about are the ones on somebody else.

Politicians split up the population into classes, both based on income and based on industry, using all these different kinds of taxes. People vote for them because they think "oh he's fighting for me". The absurd amount of overhead wears down any economy.

Anytime someone suggests taxing something to promote a social policy, even if it is a social policy you support, just say no.

Completely detached from reality (1)

Hentes (2461350) | about 2 years ago | (#38906857)

"A gentleman shot a police officer and stole his car," Fourkiller says. "He had been playing Grand Theft Auto."

He can't believe there's actually a video game called “Bully” because he says bullying is often what happens when kids play these games.

"Not everybody is going to react the same," Fourkiller says. "But I believe after hours and hours of watching the screen, playing the video game, being that person and taking on that role, people get desensitized."

Yeah, those were the times in high school when us gamers bullied the hell out of the basketball team...oh wait.

They can't really believe this will happen... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#38906881)

I see it now games will all have "g" rating but then you can "download" the "unofficial" plugin to add gore, violence, and nudity to the game. When are these morons going to learn how to fix the problem instead of band-aid it so the rich get richer and the power take in the bum.

Bullshit (1)

Stumbles (602007) | about 2 years ago | (#38906903)

Just another excuse to add new taxes.

haw haw (1)

webserf256 (717589) | about 2 years ago | (#38906919)

Well, what kind of politician would do a thing like this? A great one probably. lol
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