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Finding Lost Recording From the 1880s

Soulskill posted more than 2 years ago | from the riaa-already-sued-for-piracy dept.

Science 128

An anonymous reader writes "The NY Times recently ran a story on the discovery of a cache of wax cylinder records, recorded in Europe in the 1880s, of Otto von Bismarck, Helmuth von Moltke, and various musicians. 'In June 1889, Edison sent Wangemann to Europe, initially to ensure that the phonograph at the Paris World’s Fair remained in working order. After Paris, Wangemann toured his native Germany, recording musical artists and often visiting the homes of prominent members of society who were fascinated with the talking machine. Until now, the only available recording from Wangemann’s European trip has been a well-known and well-worn cylinder of Brahms playing an excerpt from his first Hungarian Dance. That recording is so damaged "that many listeners can scarcely discern the sound of a piano, which has in turn tarnished the reputations of both Wangemann and the Edison phonograph of the late 1880s," Dr. Feaster said. "These newly unearthed examples vindicate both."'"

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Bismarck Copyright Term Extension Act (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38933007)

Quick! Adopt the BCTEA! 2012-1880+50 = 182 years of protection! What if everyone is going to copy this wax cylinder?!!

Re:Bismarck Copyright Term Extension Act (5, Funny)

davester666 (731373) | more than 2 years ago | (#38933143)

Nobody knows Bismark anymore.

And it can't sound totally ridiculous, like "The Mickey Mouse Copyright Extension Act" [which is what the last one was, but was named the Sonny Bono act to be slightly less ridiculous].

This time, it'll be something like "The Lady Gaga Copyright Enhancement Act" [using the work enhancement so any attempt to send an email concerning it will automatically be flagged as spam].

And copyright will be extended to 50 years after every copy of the IP ceases to exist in any form, including thoughts and memories.

Re:Bismarck Copyright Term Extension Act (5, Informative)

maxwell demon (590494) | more than 2 years ago | (#38933161)

Nobody knows Bismark anymore.

But at least in Germany, about everyone has heard of Bismarck.

Re:Bismarck Copyright Term Extension Act (4, Insightful)

shutdown -p now (807394) | more than 2 years ago | (#38933395)

I would dare say that anyone who can be considered to have even passing knowledge of Western history would know who Bismarck is, and why he is famous.

Re:Bismarck Copyright Term Extension Act (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38933419)

anyone who can be considered to have even passing knowledge of Western history would know who Bismarck is, and why he is famous.

The tasty cream filling. Duh.

Re:Bismarck Copyright Term Extension Act (2)

Sulphur (1548251) | more than 2 years ago | (#38934823)

anyone who can be considered to have even passing knowledge of Western history would know who Bismarck is, and why he is famous.

The tasty cream filling. Duh.

Don't forget the Berliners.

Re:Bismarck Copyright Term Extension Act (4, Funny)

Swampash (1131503) | more than 2 years ago | (#38933725)

I would dare say that anyone who can be considered to have even passing knowledge of Western history would know who Bismarck is, and why he is famous.

So no Americans then?

Re:Bismarck Copyright Term Extension Act (5, Funny)

ShakaUVM (157947) | more than 2 years ago | (#38933785)

>>So no Americans then?

Uh, Bismarck is the capital of North Dakota.

He also runs a killer Chicken and Biscuit restaurant in between forays into the Atlantic to do some quality commerce raiding.

Checkmate, Europeans.

Re:Bismarck Copyright Term Extension Act (2)

Joce640k (829181) | more than 2 years ago | (#38934417)

No, it was a ship. I've seen it on the WWII channel.

Re:Bismarck Copyright Term Extension Act (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38934863)

No, she was a ship. I've seen it on the WWII channel.

FTFY

Re:Bismarck Copyright Term Extension Act (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38933789)

Fuck you buddy.

Re:Bismarck Copyright Term Extension Act (2)

fafaforza (248976) | more than 2 years ago | (#38934701)

Dumping on Americans has become a pastime, it seems. I was taught about Bismarck in a US school. Don't remember anything more than him uniting Germany, and other generalities. Sorry if I'm interrupting a circlejerk here.

Re:Bismarck Copyright Term Extension Act (1)

Patch86 (1465427) | more than 2 years ago | (#38934847)

That's one up on history education here in the UK. Here we learn exactly 3 topics- The Tudors, the two World Wars, and 1x classical civilization of choice.

I believe some Tory politician or other decided once that it would be unpatriotic to learn too much about the history of anywhere that isn't British and didn't involve winning...

Re:Bismarck Copyright Term Extension Act (1)

Alphathon (1634555) | more than 2 years ago | (#38935413)

I assume you are referring to English history education - Scotland has a totally separate curriculum and set of qualifications from England, so I don't think that statement applies. I'm not sure how things differ in Wales and N.I. (I think Wales generally falls in line with England with regard to education). Certainly, prior to Standard Grade level (equivalent of GCSE) we learn about things like the Scottish wars of independence (which seems to fall into the same patriotism category that you mentioned, but with regard to Scotland) and the Victorians certainly popped up quite a bit (certainly things like the suffragettes were covered too, although that may have crossed over into Modern Studies). At Standard Grade level (which I didn't do, opting instead for Geography, so take everything I say with a pinch of salt) the World Wars are discussed, but along with those come the reunification of Germany and Weimar Germany, since they are kinda important topics to understand if you are to have any context for the wars.

Re:Bismarck Copyright Term Extension Act (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38935001)

i'm american and i know who he is.

Re:History (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38935841)

I can't believe that anyone with even a passing knowledge of history would use Google Chrome.

Re:Bismarck Copyright Term Extension Act (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38934413)

Yeah, he made that donut with the cream inside. Duh!

Then they named a ship after him in WW2.

Re:Bismarck Copyright Term Extension Act (0)

Nidi62 (1525137) | more than 2 years ago | (#38934987)

Then they named a ship after him in WW2.

The Bismarck was sunk in WWI......

Re:Bismarck Copyright Term Extension Act (3, Informative)

Chris Mattern (191822) | more than 2 years ago | (#38935571)

The Bismarck was sunk in WWI......

Can't tell if trolling or just stupid. The Bismarck was commissioned in August 1940 and sunk by a British squadron led by the HMS King George V after British torpedo bombers had crippled her, on 27 May 1941. So, yeah, World War II.

Re:Bismarck Copyright Term Extension Act (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38934697)

I would dare say that anyone who can be considered to have even passing knowledge of Western history would know who Bismarck is, and why he is famous.

And for that matter, they would know Edison was a lier a crook and a cheat - I doubt an old record - good or terrible quality - is going even be a discernible tickmark on a graph of how fucking low he was.

Re:Bismarck Copyright Term Extension Act (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38933397)

"But at least in Germany, about everyone has heard of Bismarck."

But only because pickled herrings are called 'Bismarck-Hering' not because German teens know more about history than US ones.

Re:Bismarck Copyright Term Extension Act (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38933953)

Oh bullshit. Don't be so full of yourself. German teens are far more likely to know some of the greater historical figures of the 19th century than they are of the US, no matter what you'd like to think.

Re:Bismarck Copyright Term Extension Act (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38933823)

Here in the UK, about everyone has heard of Bismarck [brewdog.com] too, though perhaps in a slightly different context.

Re:Bismarck Copyright Term Extension Act (1)

SuricouRaven (1897204) | more than 2 years ago | (#38934161)

Here in the UK, the ship is better known than it's namesake. Probably because we are still rather proud of blowing it up.

Re:Bismarck Copyright Term Extension Act (1)

Sulphur (1548251) | more than 2 years ago | (#38934841)

Here in the UK, the ship is better known than it's namesake. Probably because we are still rather proud of blowing it up.

I tought you sunk it.

Re:Bismarck Copyright Term Extension Act (1)

SomeKDEUser (1243392) | more than 2 years ago | (#38935239)

I have bad news for you: it was scuttled. The armour was too strong for the Royal Navy. So you disabled the Bismark, yes, but she had to sink herself.

Re:Bismarck Copyright Term Extension Act (1)

SuricouRaven (1897204) | more than 2 years ago | (#38935451)

The ship was on fire, listing heavily, and took on so much water the stern was lower than the bow. True, the ship was scuttled... but if it hadn't been, it would have sunk. Even if it stayed afloat in that shape, the next torpedo would have done it, or the one after. Bismark was in no shape to fight back - steam catapult out of operation, engines dead, all four main gun batteries dead. Sitting duck. That ship was going down, one way or another.

Re:Bismarck Copyright Term Extension Act (1)

Nimey (114278) | more than 2 years ago | (#38935661)

No, it would have stayed afloat until the RN captured her, hence the scuttling.

Re:Bismarck Copyright Term Extension Act (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38936029)

in Germany, about everyone has heard of Bismarck.

Yes, it's a kind of herring. Now what I find really amazing is Bismarck reciting the Marseillaise.

Re:Bismarck Copyright Term Extension Act (2, Interesting)

vleo (7933) | more than 2 years ago | (#38933291)

"Nobody knows Bismark anymore." - too bad for the US then... In Russia everybody knows him for this saying:

"Do not expect that once taken advantage of Russia's weakness, you will receive dividends forever. Russian always come for their money. And when they come - do not rely on the Jesuit agreement you signed, you are supposed to justify. They are not worth the paper it is written. Therefore, with the Russian cost or fair play or no play. "

So... what about that NATO expansion in Europe? What about ridiculous "Treaty on Conventional Armed Forces in Europe"? What about all these Russian people discriminating pseudo-countries that were breaded by the US around Russia?

Very symbolic timing to find these recordings of Bismark indeed...

p.s. but it's even more complicated then that. Nobody was able to trace that citation to original Bismark's speech or writing... I hope some Germans may shed more light on this. But regardless of this Bismark is adored in Russia, as on of very rare well known Western pro-Russian politician of all times.

Re:Bismarck Copyright Term Extension Act (1)

ShakaUVM (157947) | more than 2 years ago | (#38933793)

In America, he's more famous for saying, "Laws are like sausages. It is better not to see them being made."

Though he probably never said it.

Re:Bismarck Copyright Term Extension Act (3, Interesting)

Trepidity (597) | more than 2 years ago | (#38933829)

Oddly enough, he's less famous for some things about politics he did actually say, which are widely used, but less widely remembered as originating with Bismarck:

"Politics is not an exact science."

"Politics is the art of the possible."

He's also the source of the prediction: "If there is ever another war in Europe, it will come out of some damned silly thing in the Balkans."

Re:Bismarck Copyright Term Extension Act (1)

sbjornda (199447) | more than 2 years ago | (#38934885)

In America, he's more famous for saying, "Laws are like sausages. It is better not to see them being made." Though he probably never said it.

He might have said it. A search on German Google finds a lot of hits attributed to him (and not Saxe) for variations on "The less the people know about how sausages and laws are made, the better they sleep."

Je weniger die Leute wissen, wie Würste und Gesetze gemacht werden, desto besser schlafen sie.

Dont worry (3, Funny)

jopsen (885607) | more than 2 years ago | (#38933717)

Every digital recording of the wax cylinder is probably copyrighted from date of the digital recording :)

Handle them carefully (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38933017)

Immediately made me think of this old TechTV segment on one of these cylinders being destroyed on camera.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnsizkVjGm8

Re:Handle them carefully (5, Interesting)

fleebait (1432569) | more than 2 years ago | (#38933085)

Those old recordings, really are more delicate than eggshells. When I was 5 or 6, in 1949, or 1950, I was at my friend's house. His father was a professor at University of Minnesota -- and had a box of old cylinders on a table in the basement. My friend showed them to me, and I proceeded to break, two, or three. I remember one being so delicate, just picking it up out of the box, by putting my finger through, was enough to break it. They were dull reddish brown, and I always thought they were made out of clay or plastic. Still feel guilty about it..

Re:Handle them carefully (1)

mosb1000 (710161) | more than 2 years ago | (#38933133)

Dear god, I feel like I'm going to throw up. Here's a link [youtube.com] for those you who aren't as squeamish about this kind of thing as I am.

Re:Handle them carefully (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38933167)

Are you sure that's real? If so, what idiot decided to let someone with Parkinson's handle such a delicate artefact?

Re:Handle them carefully (1)

Machtyn (759119) | more than 2 years ago | (#38934465)

Yes, that guy should have put that cylinder down rather quickly. He should have realized his health condition was not conducive to handling delicate items.

Re:Handle them carefully (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38935849)

Even more reason to handle them carefully, in a figurative sense, is with 150 years of copyright coverage, these things will not fall into the public domain until the year 2030, another 18 years away.

Someone's great great great grandson could sue for loss of profits

Copyright from the past (1)

evanism (600676) | more than 2 years ago | (#38933053)

Wonder what Brahms would make of the insanity that passes for copyright today.

That phonograph is going to destroy my business! (radio, record, cassette, cd, DVD, Internet).

Their squealling probably has been the same.

Re:Copyright from the past (1)

Frosty Piss (770223) | more than 2 years ago | (#38933259)

Wonder what Brahms would make of the insanity that passes for copyright today.

It's a fact that many authors are very much for the kind of copyright laws being passed today. What makes you think Brahms would be any different?

Re:Copyright from the past (1)

luke923 (778953) | more than 2 years ago | (#38933389)

True, but I don't think that Brahms' contemporaries would advocate for what passes for copyright law today where some multinational corporation can hold rights to an author's work ad infinitum.

Re:Copyright from the past (1)

zarlino (985890) | more than 2 years ago | (#38933509)

Also it's a fact that many authors today create music not as nearly sophisticated as Brahms'. So there is hope that Brahms and other musical giants like him would have thought otherwise about copyright.

Re:Copyright from the past (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38933537)

Wonder what Brahms would make of the insanity that passes for copyright today.

It's a fact that many authors are very much for the kind of copyright laws being passed today. What makes you think Brahms would be any different?

I don't know how many classical composers you know in person, but I know quite a few. They all seem to agree one thing: the current copyright laws don't benefit them at all. They get very little money from it. Most of it goes to the publisher or the rights-organization...

Re:Copyright from the past (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38934107)

It's a fact that many authors are very much for the kind of copyright laws being passed today. What makes you think Brahms would be any different?

Most "authors" today doesn't have the skill to write and perform a song.
It's not surprising that they are willing to support whatever the record companies wants, after all they would not be able to compete with composers/performers of Brahms caliber if they didn't have the backing of the record companies.

Re:Copyright from the past (3, Informative)

Johann Lau (1040920) | more than 2 years ago | (#38936303)

Classical composers were paid for composing; as in "we need a new tune for next sunday's mass, and another completely different tune, which will likely never get played again in your lifetime, for the mass on sunday after that". Kinda like a carpenter gets paid to make a table, not every time someone uses that table. People back then did NOT listen to that music over and over and over again. It was written, it got played, something new was written. Totally different from today, and I'm pretty sure classical composers would be laughing at things like Mickey Mouse Copyright. Also, not few of that music was more or less dedicated to God, not to Mammon. Sure, they liked being well fed, who doesn't... but that's not why they wrote those pieces, that is simply not how they operated. It kinda shows in the music, too. The heart, it cannot be hidden.

Re:Copyright from the past (5, Funny)

Rosco P. Coltrane (209368) | more than 2 years ago | (#38933271)

Wonder what Brahms would make of the insanity that passes for copyright today.

Dunno about Brahms, but we all know what happened when Bismark found out about Franz Ferdinand's bootleg copies of his hit song "eis eis baby".

MP3 of recordings (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38933069)

http://www.nps.gov/edis/photosmultimedia/audio-wangemann-1889-1890-european-recordings.htm

Re:MP3 of recordings (1)

Edzilla2000 (1261030) | more than 2 years ago | (#38933425)

They are offering the mp3's for free... Did someone tell Birsmarck about all the money he's losing?

Re:MP3 of recordings (4, Funny)

gnasher719 (869701) | more than 2 years ago | (#38933515)

They are offering the mp3's for free... Did someone tell Birsmarck about all the money he's losing?

The fact that he is getting no money will totally discourage him and all his contemporaries from making any new recordings.

Re:MP3 of recordings (3, Funny)

Fnord666 (889225) | more than 2 years ago | (#38933583)

They are offering the mp3's for free... Did someone tell Birsmarck about all the money he's losing?

Might as well use mp3s since you're going to digitize it anyway. I'm telling you, there's no way digital interpretation of the medium can faithfully reproduce the warm, rich feel that you get from the original analog recordings.

Re:MP3 of recordings (1)

Solandri (704621) | more than 2 years ago | (#38933431)

These recordings give us a good idea how crazy Copyright law has become. Under current copyright law [bitlaw.com] , recordings made prior to 1978 but which weren't published until after 1978 fall under modern copyright terms. For personal works that's life of the author + 70 years. But fo anonymous and pseudonymous works (e.g. various performances recorded by the Edison company), it's 95 years after publication, or 120 years if not published. Since these recordings were never published, they fall under the 120 year term.

In other words, the 1889 recording of Otto von Bismark finally entered the public domain in 2009.

Re:MP3 of recordings (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38933849)

No it didn't, not necessarily. A lawyer would probably argue that Bismarck commissioned Edison to make the recordings - that being the case, the relevant copyright law would be German, since under both codes Bismarck would hold the copyrights. If Edison was found to have commissioned Bismarck - unlikely - only then would the relevant law be American. Now, I have no idea if the German law would give a 120 year term or less, but for all I know, it's less, and the recordings could have entered the public domain as early as, say, 1989 -- a full 71 years after the collapse of the German Empire...

[Further, we have no idea whether German law states the same, or instead argues that recordings made in Germany before, say, 1960, are subject to modern German law, regardless of who would possess copyright under a modern code. Almost certainly not, but without knowing any German law we actually don't know what it would say.]

This in no way invalidates your point that the copyright laws are dumb, but it's always worth being aware that in law there are always myriad complications, which is why lawyers exist - to perpetuate the complications and profit from them.

Re:MP3 of recordings (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38934909)

Boy, they should have told that guy on the snare drum to take a rest!

For thoses interested... (5, Informative)

Vlaix (2567607) | more than 2 years ago | (#38933081)

... the first actual recordings ever made of sounds and voice can be found there : http://www.firstsounds.org/ [firstsounds.org] .

Re:For thoses interested... (0)

luke923 (778953) | more than 2 years ago | (#38933405)

I'm guessing that their site is so old, they had to resort to tables?

Re:For thoses interested... (2)

Janek Kozicki (722688) | more than 2 years ago | (#38934451)

I'm guessing that their site is so old, they had to resort to tables?

stupid joke. Why would you expect everybody being professional in html AND in his field of research? If he recovers wax cylinders he can have a website without latest www whistles. Besides I think that it browses and feels very good, and flash applets play music well, which is most important here.

Re:For thoses interested... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38936179)

What's less forgivable than ancient HTML or the use of Flash is that the recording is full of mp3 encoding artifacts. A sound specialist should do better than that.

Not bad but not exactly great either (1)

atari2600a (1892574) | more than 2 years ago | (#38933121)

Those 1860's Phonautograph recordings are more impressive IMO, though I could imagine how eery it must have been seeing someone's voice being rapidly printed in a snaky fashion, as if ribbons of silk were being pulled from their throats...

Ah huh! Just as I expected... (2)

arcite (661011) | more than 2 years ago | (#38933141)

So it was Colonel Mustard in the Billiard room with the candlestick that caused the Great War after all!

First recording of 'fuck' (5, Interesting)

DNS-and-BIND (461968) | more than 2 years ago | (#38933145)

Click here to hear, from March 11, 1885, the first time the word 'fuck' was ever recorded. (Disc 3) [firstsounds.org] Some fellow is making a test recording of 'mary had a little lamb' and screws it up in the middle, uttering 'oh fuck' before stopping and restarting the recording. There is no evidence he meant to say fuck, it was meant for internal use within the company. It survives to us today.

I wonder who the first person to say 'shit' was?

Re:First recording of 'fuck' (0)

Tablizer (95088) | more than 2 years ago | (#38933209)

The first Goatse encounter

Re:First recording of 'fuck' (1)

Ol Biscuitbarrel (1859702) | more than 2 years ago | (#38934873)

"Watson, come in here, I - goddammit!"

Now come on, that could have been "heck" for all we know. The audio's such a garbled mess.

That! stilted and formal! cadence all of these! speakers use! on these old! recordings! is amusing! too!

Re:First recording of 'fuck' (3, Interesting)

Deep Esophagus (686515) | more than 2 years ago | (#38935209)

No, it's rather clear (although I ran it through Audacity's noise removal first, so I suppose I cheated). In fact I was so surprised by the sudden exclamation of "Oh, fuck!" that I went back to the website to read more detail about the recording and confirm that I had heard correctly.

Unscripted history in the making is the best kind of history.

WRT to the stilted speaking style, also of some amusement (to me anyway) is the tendency in turn-of-the-century recordings to use operatic divas to record Tin Pan Alley popular songs. You end up with this hilarious combination of BBC-perfect pronunciation and trilled R's with whimsical lyrics, often using faux-black dialect.

Famous 1889 Poster ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38933151)

... with message superimposed over picture of wax cylinder with skull and crossbones: Home-made wax cynlinder recordings are killing the music industry!!!

Bismarck singing the Marseillaise...priceless (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38933173)

Here's a link with a transcript: http://www.cylinder.de/deeplink_resource_bismarck.html

Re:Bismarck singing the Marseillaise...priceless (1)

hcs_$reboot (1536101) | more than 2 years ago | (#38933265)

I think I heard that before - they were saying "Houston we have a problem"

don't actually play them! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38933267)

just laser-scan them or some shit, so that you don't wear them down! This is a treasure that will be of interest literally for forever.

In a following century... (1)

tchiwam (751440) | more than 2 years ago | (#38933277)

Found on an old mechanical magnetic device, this information has been restored for the last 60 years but only now our quantum analysis have been able to decifer the information, probably due to some form or content protection. This is probably the earliest form of audio binary storage known to humans.

Just ten years later, there are better recordings (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38933285)

At the turn of the 19th century, magnetic wire recordings become very popular in Northern Europe (except perhaps in Britain). It was the first widely distributed recording technology of N. Europe and in the 1910's, even relatively poor musicians could afford a machine (they usually started clubs for the purpose of buying and using one). There are lots of Northern European magnetic wire recordings from the late 1890's well into the 1950's. Compared to wax rolls, they have the advantage that the sound quality is good enough that you can actually hear how something sounded, so if you want to get a feeling of how Bismarks voice sounded, listen to one of the electric wire recordings of him, not this crappy recording.

Re:Just ten years later, there are better recordin (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38934171)

... so if you want to get a feeling of how Bismarks voice sounded, listen to one of the electric wire recordings of him, not this crappy recording.

I think some historians would like to know where you found those electric wire recordings of him, as the second paragraph of the article quite clearly states
"The cylinders, from 1889 and 1890, include the only known recording of the voice of the powerful chancellor Otto von Bismarck."

Re:Just ten years later, there are better recordin (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38934253)

Can you tell us where to find 'electric wire' recordings of him?

Re:Just ten years later, there are better recordin (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38934517)

Did you mean, "At the turn of the 20th century..."?

They still use needles? (1)

jibjibjib (889679) | more than 2 years ago | (#38933475)

I was surprised to read that they still use a device with a needle to play these. I would have thought that they'd be scanned with lasers, to avoid wear entirely and possibly to reconstruct the groove more precisely.

Why didn't Africans invent this? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38933685)

Because their average IQ is 70...

Any comments?

How's that 'diversity' bullshit working for you, and more importantly, for your CHILDREN?

Do you think they're going to thank you for actively defending the ongoing invasion and destruction of their country, turning it into a third world hellhole?

title (1)

mapkinase (958129) | more than 2 years ago | (#38933917)

When I read the title: I couldn't help but add: "Finding Lost Recording From the 1880s"... in tree rings.

I would like to humbly introduce ".. in tree rings" as a catch phrase for research that goes into technological wonders of experimental advancement for a dubious cause. Think of it as a marriage of "..that's what she said" and IgNoble prize.

Please don't link to NY Times anymore (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38934005)

They require a log in now to read articles; please either link to an article in a different outlet or drop it.

Re:Please don't link to NY Times anymore (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38934531)

Press escape just after the text has loaded.

Re:Please don't link to NY Times anymore (1)

hoboroadie (1726896) | more than 2 years ago | (#38936263)

I just go and remove nytimes.com cookies when that happens, you get some random # of views before they get to that; ten I think, except if you link from google they don't count 'em.

Lost Mark Twain recordings (4, Interesting)

Creosote (33182) | more than 2 years ago | (#38935055)

It has long been known that Mark Twain dictated part of his novel The American Claimant [wikipedia.org] onto Edison cylinders. It was an experiment that he never repeated. Strangely, for someone whose manner of speaking was celebrated and often described during his lifetime, no one else ever thought to record him for posterity.

The American Claimant cylinders have long since gone missing. Keep your eye out for them in antique shops or your relatives' attics—if found, they would be worth who knows how many thousands or millions of dollars on the open market.

I've removed some of the noise using audacity. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38935513)

> "deep in the nylon front"
> "our lives have been managed to be telephoned at 6:30, whoever the children manage to tell I want you to tell her baby brother and Julia"
> brother is working at school and is working very nicely indeed, use it every day"
> "you might tell her, that in my opinion my children are very much nicer and they are vinyl something than they have ever been before"
> "i have been looking forward to the time when a vast something would arrive, it did not come until last night and we were having a dinner party and it come while we were at the table"
> "and my eyes came quickest then i have ever saw in my life, don't know how greatful Ida and I are for for it, for the glass, "
> "something complete control, i have dropped in a letter make plans for our apartment which i have told you"

Thats all that I could make out just using audacity's noise removal and equalizer and some compression.

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