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Google's First Employee Departs

samzenpus posted more than 2 years ago | from the ajusting-the-seniority-list dept.

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redletterdave writes "Craig Silverstein, the first employee hired by Google co-founders Sergey Brin and Larry Page, will leave the search giant for Khan Academy, an online education portal based in Mountain View, Calif. Silverstein had been with Google shortly after it first launched in the garage of Susan Wojcicki, a friend of both Page and Brin, in September 1998. He had helped Brin and Page develop infrastructure when Google was just a Stanford grad school project, but when he officially joined the company, Silverstein became its technology director. The Khan Academy, where Silverstein is heading next, is a not-for-profit organization that aspires to change the education industry by providing free 'world-class education to anyone anywhere.' Microsoft chairman Bill Gates is an enormous fan of the service, telling CNN that he uses it with his kids."

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first (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38993579)

first

Re:first (5, Funny)

FhnuZoag (875558) | more than 2 years ago | (#38994051)

I can't wait for you to leave slashdot.

Re:first (1)

fotoflojoe (982885) | more than 2 years ago | (#38994395)

Oh, if I only had mod points.

KHAN!!! (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38993591)

Obligatory.

Re:KHAN!!! (0)

interkin3tic (1469267) | more than 2 years ago | (#38995807)

I enjoy the Khan Academy, but the "There are five lights" educational videos are also pretty good.

is this really news? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38993599)

can't say i'm surprised, none of csilver's open source projects have been properly maintained in years

Re:is this really news? (1)

cayenne8 (626475) | more than 2 years ago | (#38995839)

He's a better man than I am I guess.

If I had the $$$$ that I assume this guy must have...I'd have quit a LONG time ago....and spend the rest of my life enjoying my money...traveling the world, bedding new babes, basically one long party the rest of my life.

But, I guess to each his own...everyone has something different that makes them happy. Whatever it is...DO IT...life on this planet is short, make sure you have no regrets on your deathbed.

Great run, Craig (5, Insightful)

Daniel Phillips (238627) | more than 2 years ago | (#38993605)

Craig is good egg who walks the walk. Not hungry for power, glory or money, he already has enough of all that. The original Google do-gooder. I sincerely hope that his shoes do not prove too big to fill.

Re:Great run, Craig (3, Insightful)

WrongSizeGlass (838941) | more than 2 years ago | (#38993847)

Craig is good egg who walks the walk. Not hungry for power, glory or money, he already has enough of all that. The original Google do-gooder. I sincerely hope that his shoes do not prove too big to fill.

He was part of a force that changed the internet. Now's he's joining Kahn to help change the world of education (except now he has a lot more clout and a lot more resources). Let's hope he can have a significant impact.

Re:Great run, Craig (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38994113)

Do you know what is significantly impacted? Your momma's ass.

Re:Great run, Craig (4, Interesting)

justforgetme (1814588) | more than 2 years ago | (#38994199)

Well, it is obvious that education at the moment is going through a very creative phase,
a lot of attention is being directed to the distributed model the KHAN academy made
popular; I'm very curious to see how the rise of distributed learning will change the
world of knowledge and accreditation. Could be that the 3k year old paradigm of the
classroom will be obsolete (or dramatically changed) by the end of the decade.

No, doing 3,000 year old schools better (4, Insightful)

peter303 (12292) | more than 2 years ago | (#38994693)

Khan uses the oldest educational technique in the book- the demonstration lecture. Its just packaged better. First someone who clearly explains it. Second in a right-length chunk of a few minutes, not a forced 60 minutes. And on demand, anywhere, not on a schedule at a certain location. And almost free, after it is done the first couple of times.

People have been trying a half century to properly use television and computers in education. This seems to be one of the better results.

Re:Great run, Craig (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38996087)

Google didn't change the Internet in any way at all. It merely brought search engine appearance back to 1995 (a good thing) and ranked by popularity to create an Internet of Facebooks and Wikipedias (a horrible thing).

As for the Academy, the UK's Open University has been excellent distance learning since the late '60s.

I swear, any time I see some fanboy on /. proclaim some great new thing and how it will destroy everything which has come before it I hear Cabaret's "Tomorrow Belongs To Me" gradually increasing in volume in the background.

Re:Great run, Craig (1)

XrayJunkie (2437814) | more than 2 years ago | (#38994209)

I envy him for this and hope that in a few (hundred) years I can do something similar.

Re:Great run, Craig (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38994765)

> The original Google do-gooder.

Please stop the astroturfing already! Also, there's no need to elevate every ass-hat amongst the first 100 Google employees to saint status. This "cult of person" if getting a bit sickening.

Re:Great run, Craig (1)

Adriax (746043) | more than 2 years ago | (#38995719)

Yeah, all worship must rightfully be directed towards our lord and savior Steve Jobs! Speaking highly of anyone associated with the unholy Competitors is heresy and devil worship!

Or you can just drop the religious shit and accept that the guy did better than most corp employees.

nice! (1)

dropadrop (1057046) | more than 2 years ago | (#38993607)

Good move, khan academy is really nice, but could use a lot of improvements on general usability.

Re:nice! (1)

datavirtue (1104259) | more than 2 years ago | (#38994403)

All the videos need reworked as well.

Re:nice! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38995777)

Particularly the one on English grammar.

If he is the Tech behind Google (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38993615)

I'm guessing he has enough money to last him several lifetimes by now. Good to see people that will work for non-profit at that point.

Re:If he is the Tech behind Google (1)

Like2Byte (542992) | more than 2 years ago | (#38994401)

Just because he's going to work for a non-profit orginization doesn't means he wont be handsomely paid. I seriously doubt he'll be making as much at KA as he was at google; but, that doesn't mean he'll work for free.

Sadly, there are far too many non-profit charity orgs that pay their CEOs and upper staff wads of cash - which means very little charity is going around...except, of course, for those upper staff members.

Re:If he is the Tech behind Google (1)

Daniel Phillips (238627) | more than 2 years ago | (#38994457)

Craig does not need to work.

Re:If he is the Tech behind Google (1)

Dishevel (1105119) | more than 2 years ago | (#38995393)

Craig does not need to work to pay the bills.
That does not mean that he does not need to work.
Most self made men feel a need to work after they have "made it".
It is this drive that makes successful people who they are.

I wonder how much he is worth (1)

bigsexyjoe (581721) | more than 2 years ago | (#38995735)

Does anyone know?

Bill Gates has kids? (-1, Offtopic)

PingXao (153057) | more than 2 years ago | (#38993643)

Seriously?

I remember discovering Google when it started as the alternative to Deja Vu for archived usenet posts. Search came later, I don't remember what I was using before Google to be honest. Netscape search site perhaps.

Now looking for a Google replacement. I think they're ebil moneygrubbers now to be quite honest. The do evil. In spades.

Re:Bill Gates has kids? (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38993671)

Netscape search site perhaps.

All the cool kids used Alta Vista.

Now looking for a Google replacement.

If you can tough it out for a bit... My plan is to wait a few more years (for shit to really hit the fan) and then introduce a search engine that's a simple form on a page.

It's going to be huge.

I wish I was being sarcastic. :(

Re:Bill Gates has kids? (5, Funny)

alphatel (1450715) | more than 2 years ago | (#38993849)

All the cool kids used Alta Vista.

You weren't one of them. We used Asta la Vista [wikipedia.org]

Re:Bill Gates has kids? (2)

shadowmas (697397) | more than 2 years ago | (#38993971)

Indeed! it used to be great. Before they went all out commercial.

Re:Bill Gates has kids? (2, Insightful)

AliasMarlowe (1042386) | more than 2 years ago | (#38993915)

All the cool kids used Alta Vista.

I used to use Alta Vista as my main search engine, back when they supported boolean queries (the "NEAR" keyword!). When they dropped that capability, I abandoned them. Google didn't really become better than Alta Vista. Alta Vista became worse than Google.

Re:Bill Gates has kids? (5, Funny)

mcavic (2007672) | more than 2 years ago | (#38993963)

I remember when Alta Vista came out with natural language searches. You could ask it What's the name of President Clinton's cat? And it would give you links for where to buy socks.

Re:Bill Gates has kids? (2)

TheGreatOrangePeel (618581) | more than 2 years ago | (#38994779)

I remember when Alta Vista came out with natural language searches. You could ask it What's the name of President Clinton's cat? And it would give you links for where to buy sock fetish porn.

There. Fixed that for you. No, seriously. I'm not kidding.

Re:Bill Gates has kids? (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38994087)

People have such ridiculously selective memories about Alta Vista. Yes, it was once awesome, but it sucked because it had no search algorithm, it just matched keywords. This worked fine at first, but people (and by people I mean porn sites) pretty quickly learned that all it took to game the system was to put huge blocks of tiny text at the bottom of every page containing every keyword they could think of. Pretty soon, it didn't matter what you searched for, you got back the same 10 porn sites. So yes, Google became better than Alta Vista, because they figured out a system that was at least marginally difficult to game.

Re:Bill Gates has kids? (1)

Guppy (12314) | more than 2 years ago | (#38994559)

I used to use Alta Vista as my main search engine, back when they supported boolean queries (the "NEAR" keyword!). When they dropped that capability, I abandoned them.

I'd completely forgotten about that, it was quite useful. Are there any modern search engines that support a NEAR-type search parameter?

Re:Bill Gates has kids? (1)

mikael_j (106439) | more than 2 years ago | (#38993943)

All the cool kids used Alta Vista.

I remember around 1996-1997 when Altavista turned to absolute shit, didn't matter what you searched for, at least half of the top 20 results were porn, porn and more porn.

Of course, that was back in the days when search engines often just assumed that pages were honest about their own content so just having a huge block of keywords in the same color as the page background at the bottom of every page meant you'd show up in searches for those keywords.

When I first heard of the basic idea of how Google's search algorithm worked I was actually a bit surprised, even as a teenager at the time I had kind of assumed every major search engine worked in a similar way. I suspect I was far from alone in that assumption...

Re:Bill Gates has kids? (1)

interkin3tic (1469267) | more than 2 years ago | (#38996081)

I used alta vista in high school. A teacher told me I should use yahoo instead "because real people are indexing that, so it's better."

Re:Bill Gates has kids? (1)

rylin (688457) | more than 2 years ago | (#38993673)

Uh, no.
Search was their first product.

Google Groups was later. End of '01 perhaps?

Re:Bill Gates has kids? (1)

i.r.id10t (595143) | more than 2 years ago | (#38994123)

After or as they bought out deja news....

Re:Bill Gates has kids? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38993687)

Evil compared to what? Mother Theresa and Ghandi perhaps, but compared to Facebook and the worst of the worst that is Microsoft they are still saints.

And you do know that almost every single complaint is filed by Microsoft, either by proxy or in the open as partners against Google? This has even been documented and verifiead as a fact (even by Microsoft) so its no tinfoil crackpot theory.

Re:Bill Gates has kids? (4, Interesting)

AliasMarlowe (1042386) | more than 2 years ago | (#38993961)

Evil compared to what? Mother Theresa and Ghandi perhaps, but compared to Facebook and the worst of the worst that is Microsoft they are still saints.

Actually, I'd class Google as a saint compared to Mother Teresa [wikipedia.org] , who believed that suffering was good, and ensured it was widespread in her "hospices", and publicly stated that poverty should not be alleviated because it also was a good thing.

Re:Bill Gates has kids? (2)

findoutmoretoday (1475299) | more than 2 years ago | (#38994167)

I'd class Google as a saint compared to Mother Teresa, who ...

The new Reverend Dr Hyde I presume.

No surprise (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38994197)

Religion says that conformity trumps individual sovereignty, and Mother Teresa was true to those beliefs.

Anarchy says that individual sovereignty trumps conformity, and Ghandi was true to those beliefs.

I know which one of these two icons I look up to.

Re:Bill Gates has kids? (1)

datavirtue (1104259) | more than 2 years ago | (#38994489)

Gandhi was a dick! I used to party with him, and he would just do a bunch of coke, drink whiskey, call people on the phone trying to start fights, and then pass out on the couch. Sometimes he would make it out of the house to finish the dispute he started on the phone with one of his neighbors, but that was rare. One time he totaled a car in reverse in the fucking driveway! WTF?! It was kinda fun to party with him, if you could get the fuck out of there when the police came. Good times.

Re:Bill Gates has kids? (2)

AlecC (512609) | more than 2 years ago | (#38993767)

Before Google, I used Altavista.

I am afraid that Google is a proof of the axiom that all power corrupts. While not seeing them as totally evil, the fact of being huge and rich has distorted their vision so that they cannot see the dark side of the things that they do, I think they still mean well, they think that they are "doing no evil". But their view is so distorted by the point that they are looking from that they have lost touch with what ordinary people think. They are so intent on open information that they cannot understand why people, quite honourably and innocently, want too keep some information private to themselves.

Education industry (1)

PCM2 (4486) | more than 2 years ago | (#38993651)

"Change the education industry"? That's a strange choice of words, considering Khan Academy coursework is free and so is K-12 education in America. Should we even be thinking of educating our children as an industry?

Re:Education industry (5, Informative)

sourcerror (1718066) | more than 2 years ago | (#38993723)

Khan Academy doesn't stop at K-12. There's plenty of college level material there.

Re:Education industry (1)

sycomonkey (666153) | more than 2 years ago | (#38994037)

Indeed. It got me through a particularly horrible multivar calculus professor a few years ago.

Re:Education industry (1)

ciderbrew (1860166) | more than 2 years ago | (#38993733)

Considering the about of money and people wrapped up in it, I think it's fair to say it's an industry. You don't want the education "product" to be treated as one size fits all. And of course you don't want drone teachers - but the whole support system to get the best education could benefit from lessons learned from other industries. The administration staff in all the school I've dealt with so far have been awful.

Re:Education industry (1)

datavirtue (1104259) | more than 2 years ago | (#38994617)

In matters of dealing with staff and teachers they act like a business, but in all other pursuits, every bit of efficiency derived from a business model goes flying out the windows. This is because their money keeps coming no matter what. They can be epic failures, make all kinds of bumbling mistakes, do an over-all horrible job, waste a bunch of money over and over again, only to be rewarded with many more years of funding and really good paychecks. Gee, wonder why improvement and positive change takes soooooo long and is resisted at every turn? You have people running the show who have NEVER held a job! Kids who went to school, kept going to school, couldn't find work, went to school again, became teachers, then moved into administration where they duly camp out for the next thirty to forty years. Hasn't anyone been paying attention? No. they have no idea, no freaking clue whatsoever how to run an organization properly or deal with subordinates. On top of this, they have a PhD that clouds their mind into thinking they are some awesome contributor to society.

Oh! You have a PhD!? What research projects are you involved in? Uh...um..... Have you taken any classes lately or engaged in professional development or modern management training? Uh...um..... Where did you work before getting into college administration? Uh....um....

I think I need a mail order PhD too!!

Free??? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38993785)

I have property tax bills that say otherwise. K-12 education in America is anything but free.

Like most taxes in America it's unfair, racially biased, and (usually) badly managed.

Just because you don't write a tuition check to the school for K-12 doesn't make it free. It's far from free.

Re:Free??? (5, Insightful)

Bucc5062 (856482) | more than 2 years ago | (#38993879)

And your alternative is what?

Don't just complain and whine about unfair taxes, tell me what you would propose that would be better for education. Keep in mind that you have a diverse population of children ranging from very well off to homeless. I would hope you want every child to have some education, because you would believe that an educated nation is a strong nation.

Please, provide a workable plan to educate our youth that does not include some social sharing of cost. Here at /. you'd get some great feed back and perhaps it can be presented to the President for consideration.

Re:Free??? (1)

GaryOlson (737642) | more than 2 years ago | (#38994345)

Present to the President??!! I don't think so. The property taxes are paid to the state and local tax boards and school districts. The President can never change education for the better at the K-12 level; only lower the lowest common denominator to drag all students down to an even lower level.

Real change in education happens best at the local level.

Re:Free??? (4, Insightful)

timeOday (582209) | more than 2 years ago | (#38995791)

Not true. In the 1960s, the federal government was instrumental in breaking up the apartheid public education system of the South.

And please, do not say, "what good did it do?" Compared to 50 or 100 years ago, Americans are far better educated. The decline we perceive is mainly a factor of 1) relative comparisons to the rest of the world and 2) the inclusion of a higher percentage of the population in modern testing. There were no good old days.

Re:Free??? (2, Insightful)

rec9140 (732463) | more than 2 years ago | (#38994499)

"Don't just complain and whine about unfair taxes, tell me what you would propose that would be better for education. Keep in mind that you have a diverse population of children ranging from very well off to homeless. I would hope you want every child to have some education, because you would believe that an educated nation is a strong nation."

You have the RIGHT to an educaton.

You have the RIGHT to PAY for that education.

You do NOT have the right to free education.

"I would hope you want every child to have some education,"

Sure, BUT you best be prepared to PAY FOR IT! I've heard all this "education nation is a strong nation." Education is good, its just not a free ride that has no cost. Good schools cost $$$$. I went to one of the top 2 HS in my state, and the property taxes for the school were 3-4x that of the neighboring districts. Hiring, your not even in the running unless you had or were in a Masters program. There were more Doctorates teaching everything from Kindergarten to AP Calculus, than most of the surrounding districts had in total COMBINED. Getting a job at this district was like hitting the lotto jackpot, they got the top of the top of the top of the top of teaching canidates be it fresh from school or other districts. and they paid very well, top of the list for the area. People purchased homes in this area, just so they could send their deliquents to this district. And homes were not cheap, and still are not cheap, even for homes 30-40 years old. Simply because of the schools.

Why should *I* pay to educate YOUR CHILD? ? Rule #1, don't tell me about the benefit to soceity mumbo jumbo. You chose to have a child, YOU PAY for their needs, and that includes education! What you want me to pay for your food too! The whole process is totally un-American in the way it taxes everyone child or not, I would expect something like this in some Socialist or Communist country.

Can't afford the tuition to the local district, parochial, or private, then home school.

School districts should work the same as private and parochial. If the budget for the school is $x, and there are y students,then $x/y =$tuition. Period.

What happens when the community has no kids to go to the local district. Shutdown.

What happens as the number children decreases, cuts in staff, pay, building closures, sell buildings, tuition increases. What about sports.. you want to be in x sports, this is the fee, same goes for cheerleaders, pantherettes, majorettes, band, choir, glee club, Key Club, etc..

The area I am talking about, has NO BUSINESS base for taxes, its 95% homes, there are few office building complexes, and a few business that existed before the community plan was changed, there are no business districts. The main road through the area is 4 lanes, major north south artery, and when you get to this community the businesses that lined the road in the previous community, instantly disappear, and don't reappear till you get to the next community. Its done intentionally, by design. Its strictly a residential community.

Having kids has repercussions, and COSTS. None of which should I bear, when I chose not to have kids.

Re:Free??? (5, Insightful)

Hatta (162192) | more than 2 years ago | (#38994883)

You can either help pay for the lower classes to be educated, or you can deal with the consequences of having large numbers of uneducated unemployable people, and all the social problems that come with that. Which do you really think is better for you?

I choose not to have kids either. But I understand that I'm going to be a lot better off if the youth I have to deal with in the future are in school and not on the streets. If I send them to school now, I can live off of their tax dollars later. If I don't send them to school now, I'll be paying for their incarceration into the foreseeable future.

Investing in the society in which you live is a rational self-interested decision.

Re:Free??? (2)

StuartHankins (1020819) | more than 2 years ago | (#38995967)

+9000 Insightful. It's never cheaper when you pay reactively rather than proactively.

It may not be fair that your neighbor has 5 kids, but taking care of that problem as a society is another (complicated) issue. Having the children turn to crime or starve is not an acceptable solution for me. But continuing to allow people to irresponsibly breed is also not working. Parents are now children themselves, and having 2 parents (of any sex) is a luxury most children do not have. Even with 2 parents, many cannot afford to feed the mouths they have created.

Could the government insist that everyone receiving welfare funds be either sterilized or on birth control? That would be a tough fight. Could the government *reduce* funding for each new child rather than increase it? Another tough fight.

I'd love to hear a solution that considers where we are headed and how it can be changed... the current system is broken and rewards those who breed irresponsibly by placing the burden on those of us who are careful and intelligent. The movie "Idiocracy" comes to mind.

Re:Free??? (1)

Bucc5062 (856482) | more than 2 years ago | (#38995103)

(Disclaimer, I have no children)
"Why should *I* pay to educate YOUR CHILD? "

Because you don't want my child coming up to you one night and beating the crap out of you for your wallet so he or she can feed their drug habit.
because you don't want my child costing you more when they grow up and continuing the cycle of limited work options due to lack of education.

There are people that exist in this world that do not have money. They cannot afford to pay for private education, they cannot afford to pay for healthcare, they cannot afford to live on the money they receive from their below minimum wage job. What do you do with these people. They exist today. They are right there in the poorest section of a city or town. They live in shacks, tunnels, abandoned homes.

Do you suggest we just let them die? Provide no help, no assistance, just let them starve to death? They exist NOW, today, and they eat, and breath, and live.

Perhaps you suggest we round up the poor, the least able to afford anything and put them in a camp. Who pays for the camp?
Perhaps you suggest we round up the poor, those with no education, because they could not afford it and ship them off to third world hell holes to work as indentured slaves.
Perhaps you feel we should sterilize the poor so they stop having children and stop being a burden on your society.

You seem like one of these people that looks at a homeless person and says "get a job" like they are plentiful and hiring someone who wears a skull cap of tinfoil.

As Hatta comments, you help pay for the poor so you do not deal with them rising up and killing you. To put it another way, the more unbalanced a structure, the easier it is to tear down. That is why I accept paying to educate other people's children even when I have none.

Re:Education industry (0)

mcavic (2007672) | more than 2 years ago | (#38993985)

Should we even be thinking of educating our children as an industry?

K-12 education isn't free - it's taxpayer funded. So yes, it's an industry, but healthcare is probably an even bigger industry.

Re:Education industry (1, Flamebait)

rec9140 (732463) | more than 2 years ago | (#38994257)

"free and so is K-12 education in America."

Wrong, K-12 education is NOT FREE.

You pay a school district tax of some sort, period. Kids or no kids every one has to unjustly pay for something they get no benefit from, and for those that choose to use private and parochial schools they get the privlege to PAY TWICE. Their school tax and tuition. Should be one or the other.

US education should be soley tuition based. you have a rug rat YOU pay when they sign up, when they graduate HS, you quit paying the school tax.

No need to reply about a how the education system where every one pays benefits soceity as whole, yadda, yadda, yahdda. I've heard this before, disagree. Thanks.

Sending kids to school who don't want to be there and disrupt classes requiring they be separated out, expelled, "alternative schools" is just a waste of money.

Re:Education industry (1)

Hognoxious (631665) | more than 2 years ago | (#38995113)

Wrong, K-12 education is NOT FREE. You pay a school district tax of some sort

Free at the point of delivery.

Do you think anyone is so stupid that they need you, of all people, to point out to that it does in fact have to be funded somehow?

Re:Education industry (1)

Johann Lau (1040920) | more than 2 years ago | (#38995417)

Wasn't school education not in the least invented to have standardized workers to use in industry? So no, of course it shouldn't be that way, but maybe that's what it started out as, and is supposed to be, if it wasn't for teachers who genuinely love people and teaching, and pupils who love to be subversive and challenge their teachers. Who knows what we would have without those two factors... probably people with moustaches and top hats implanting steam powered chips into the brains of starving people in blue overalls.

Don't get me wrong though, my kudos to all good teachers, *because* so many teachers suck so very badly, and because the houses they have to work in are basically coated in evil slime (whatever that is lol) more often than not. Have a nice day and never give up.

Slow to Grow? (1)

FairAndHateful (2522378) | more than 2 years ago | (#38993653)

Almost 14 years with a start up? I thought the new model was to resume build and jump, the sooner, the better. Maybe it's different for people who get in that early.

Re:Slow to Grow? (5, Insightful)

jholyhead (2505574) | more than 2 years ago | (#38993693)

Where do you jump to when you already work for one of the biggest companies on the planet and are richer than Midas?

It took him 14 years to find a job he wanted more than the one he had. If only we were all so lucky.

Re:Slow to Grow? (1)

Splodgey (951669) | more than 2 years ago | (#38994281)

Croesus was the rich one. :-)

Re:Slow to Grow? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38993769)

Maybe it's about more than just a career.

Free advice for big fan of free learning! (0, Troll)

migla (1099771) | more than 2 years ago | (#38993739)

Dear Mr Gates,

I have noticed how fond you are of the excellent efforts of the Khan Academy to disseminate knowledge to anyone for free.

I'm very excited to have found two more projects that should really be up your alley. You will probably want to donate billions to them right away!

They are very much in line with what the Khan Academy is trying to accomplish, but they are working at another perspective of knowledge.

They are about fascilitating the dissemination, creation and construction of knowledge and information on computing hardware:

http://gnu.org/ [gnu.org]

http://linux.com/ [linux.com]

They are Free and Open instructions for computers (machines to process data with). With these free of cost and Free as in freedom software projects and the excellent efforts of the Khan Academy, all the children of Earth (with access to computing hardware - that is yet another avenue you could look into) can really get a leg up.

Sincerelly,
Dr Pointer-Outer-Of-Obvious-Ironies-Dinkelspiel

Re:Free advice for big fan of free learning! (4, Funny)

jholyhead (2505574) | more than 2 years ago | (#38993757)

I'm sure he'll get back to you as soon as he has eradicated AIDS and cured cancer.

Sincerely,

Mr GetYourPrioritiesInOrder Esq.

Re:Free advice for big fan of free learning! (-1, Troll)

migla (1099771) | more than 2 years ago | (#38993797)

Oh, you're getting serious as cancer?

It wouldn't take Gates more than a few seconds of a lunchbreak from doing all that saving humanity to save it some more by issuing a statement saying "Now that I have done like Jesus and put a computer in every home, I think everyone should start using free and open software, because that is obviously, like the Khan Academys free education, the right thing to do. Yes, I'd like fries with that."

And free knowledge, like the Khan thing, which he allready does dig, plus free software could have obvious synergistic effects on AIDS and cancer or other medicine and science in the future. And he all ready likes the Khan thing and has prioritized that. GNU/Linux is just more of the same. So you should insert your "priorities" into your rectum, in my opinion. Thank you.

Re:Free advice for big fan of free learning! (3, Insightful)

jholyhead (2505574) | more than 2 years ago | (#38993837)

No one is stopping people from making a personal choice about the software they use. No one is forcing people to use MS Office.

Re:Free advice for big fan of free learning! (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38993947)

Actually, most schools do force you. And then the whole lock-in thing.

Re:Free advice for big fan of free learning! (2)

Mitreya (579078) | more than 2 years ago | (#38994217)

No one is stopping people from making a personal choice about the software they use. No one is forcing people to use MS Office.

Maybe on your planet. On my planet, everyone assumes and uses MS Office files. My battle is down to trying to get people to use 2007 (doc/xls/etc) files, because not all of my computers have new MS Office installed. And even that battle is being lost. I could swear that new PowerPoint purposely makes "compatible" saves bloated and damages things (formulas/animations) in conversion.
I dare you to start responding "I've chosen to use open software" to every MS Office attachment you see in your inbox. See if you can last more than an hour before you are forced to use MS Word/Excel/Powerpoint.

Re:Free advice for big fan of free learning! (1)

jholyhead (2505574) | more than 2 years ago | (#38995183)

There are many open source office applications that will save to MS Office formats. Your laziness is not Bill Gates' fault.

Re:Free advice for big fan of free learning! (1)

Zero__Kelvin (151819) | more than 2 years ago | (#38994653)

"No one is stopping people from making a personal choice about the software they use."

When they stop you from knowing you have a choice, they stop you from making a choice.

Re:Free advice for big fan of free learning! (1)

jholyhead (2505574) | more than 2 years ago | (#38995207)

When has Microsoft prevented any of the open source alternatives from marketing their offerings?

Re:Free advice for big fan of free learning! (0)

Zero__Kelvin (151819) | more than 2 years ago | (#38995223)

I'm not here to play reverse-oracle to you, son.

Re:Free advice for big fan of free learning! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38995563)

>I'm not here to play reverse-oracle to you, son.

Basically admitting that you have nothing to back up your claim.

Re:Free advice for big fan of free learning! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38994159)

I've seen some raving fanbois in my time but you, sir, have taken the cake.
 
I think you need your doctor to review your medications.

Re:Free advice for big fan of free learning! (1)

oakgrove (845019) | more than 2 years ago | (#38994563)

Slashdot: where the truth and common sense is as welcome as the Ebola virus. You can think groups like this [waggeneredstrom.com] for thoroughly destroying a once halfway decent website.

Re:Free advice for big fan of free learning! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38994059)

Dur software must be free, dur software developers must live on support consulting only.

Re:Free advice for big fan of free learning! (1)

Daniel Phillips (238627) | more than 2 years ago | (#38994533)

Dear Mr Gates,

I have noticed how fond you are of the excellent efforts of the Khan Academy to disseminate knowledge to anyone for free.

I'm very excited to have found two more projects that should really be up your alley. You will probably want to donate billions to them right away!

They are very much in line with what the Khan Academy is trying to accomplish, but they are working at another perspective of knowledge.

They are about fascilitating the dissemination, creation and construction of knowledge and information on computing hardware:

http://gnu.org/ [gnu.org]

http://linux.com/ [linux.com]

They are Free and Open instructions for computers (machines to process data with). With these free of cost and Free as in freedom software projects and the excellent efforts of the Khan Academy, all the children of Earth (with access to computing hardware - that is yet another avenue you could look into) can really get a leg up.

Sincerelly,
Dr Pointer-Outer-Of-Obvious-Ironies-Dinkelspiel

Haha, nicely done!

Re:Free advice for big fan of free learning! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38994535)

You're wasting your time, dude. On Nu-Slashdot nobody gives a fuck about Free software. Only how much they can suck up to their favorite corporate master. Around here Bill Gates is a demi-god who can do no wrong. Just ask them, they'll be glad to tell you and mod you down for daring to say otherwise. In summary, this place has descended to barely above enthusiast site level. You'd get better commentary from Engadget.

The question is... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38993807)

...when will assholes like Vic Gundotra and Andy Rubin resign? The world would be a much better place without people like them.

Also, what's with every other story being about Google anyway?

--
I value my privacy so I NEVER use any product/service from the Google creeps.

Re:The question is... (1)

chill (34294) | more than 2 years ago | (#38993909)

VASTLY better than every other damn story featuring a video of Timothy Lord shilling something.

Re:The question is... (1)

Beyond_GoodandEvil (769135) | more than 2 years ago | (#38994215)

...when will assholes like Vic Gundotra and Andy Rubin resign? The world would be a much better place without people like them.
When Mercedes Benz designs an S-class with the douche bag VP option, that way the car can do all the douchy things your VP would while you drive to work.

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Key word: with (1)

BucketOfLard (928627) | more than 2 years ago | (#38993967)

What jumped out at me was that BillG says he uses the Khan videos WITH his kids. Kudos on the parenting, Bill.

best of luck (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38993969)

Best of luck dude! We need people like you do things like these!

Khan Academy (1)

kiehlster (844523) | more than 2 years ago | (#38994129)

Where he will teach super-human reasoning courses like "LMGTFY 101" and "Your Way With Eels 510".

The Khan Academy has employees? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38994147)

I thought it was a one-man show.

Re:The Khan Academy has employees? (2)

lsolano (398432) | more than 2 years ago | (#38994175)

It was. Now is a two-man show.

Re:The Khan Academy has employees? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38994433)

http://www.khanacademy.org/about/the-team

Re:The Khan Academy has employees? (1)

GaryOlson (737642) | more than 2 years ago | (#38994371)

Ignore the man behind the curtain now.

Brain drain (3, Interesting)

laffer1 (701823) | more than 2 years ago | (#38994453)

This guy is leaving for a good cause and all, but I've noticed a pattern of Google employees leaving lately. Even newer recruits don't seem to stay long. I wonder if they've taken the fun out of working there? Obviously, something has changed. It can't be the computing problems, because they still have huge challenges.

Begining of the end? (1)

Big Hairy Ian (1155547) | more than 2 years ago | (#38994461)

Obviously rats leaving a syncing ship :)

I interviewed with him (3)

LS (57954) | more than 2 years ago | (#38994775)

I got an interview with Google in 1999, and I had the opportunity to have lunch with Craig. He never mentioned to me that he was the 1st employee at the time.

I do remember what he asked me. I was interviewing for the job of initializing their QA department. He asked me how I would look for problems in an indexer that stored MILLIONS (ha) of pages. I had to ask what exactly an indexer was.

On the way out, I spent too much time flirting with the hot red head they had at the front desk, and Larry walked by and saw what I was doing. I don't think that's why I didn't get the job though.

DAMMMMMNN I wish I got that job!!!!!!!!

Postmodern Philanthropy (1)

pipingguy (566974) | more than 2 years ago | (#38994957)

I like it!

KHAAAAAAAAAAN! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38995105)

i really hope someone at Google screamed "Khaaaaaaan!" if for nothing else than effect.

Wait what? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38995439)

Bill gates lets a klingon bastard teach his children? Damn!

Overheard in Eric Schmidt's Office (1)

cashman73 (855518) | more than 2 years ago | (#38996083)

Eric Schmidt was screaming, furious at the news one of the oldest Google employees was leaving, "F**king Salman Khan is a f**king pussy. I'm going to f**king bury that guy! I have done it before, and I will do it again. I'm going to f**king kill Khan Academy!"

Authorities were later called to Google HQ to dislodge a chair from the windshield of Sergey Brinn's Ferrari out in the parking lot, and a glass company was immediately called in to repair the window.

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