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School Sends Child's Lunch Home After Determining it Unhealthy

samzenpus posted more than 2 years ago | from the no-lunch-for-you dept.

Education 554

halfEvilTech writes "A North Carolina mom is irate after her four-year-old daughter returned home late last month with an uneaten lunch the mother had packed for the girl earlier that day. But she wasn't mad because the daughter decided to go on a hunger strike. Instead, the reason the daughter didn't eat her lunch is because someone at the school determined the lunch wasn't healthy enough and sent it back home. What was wrong with the lunch? That's still a head-scratcher because it didn't contain anything egregious: a turkey and cheese sandwich, banana, potato chips, and apple juice. But for the inspector on hand that day, it didn't meet the healthy requirements."

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farst parst (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39068435)

1st post

BOGUS STORY (4, Informative)

Jeremiah Cornelius (137) | more than 2 years ago | (#39068725)

Just twisted to support the usual right-wing scare agenda.

By and large, what this story boils down to is that a low-income child whose tuition is fully subsidized by the state under a program her mother opted into was offered some additional food to supplement the boxed lunch she brought from home. This option was provided not because of some overarching, generally applicable law or regulation, but because the program in which her mother and school voluntarily participate requires such an option be available.
http://ordinary-gentlemen.com/blog/2012/02/15/a-north-carolina-non-troversy/ [ordinary-gentlemen.com]

Hey! But don't let that bit of reality disturb the rest of your enjoying the fine entertainment provided on Fox News!

Re:BOGUS STORY (3, Informative)

Archangel Michael (180766) | more than 2 years ago | (#39068981)

Just a twisted reply by the usual leftwing knee jerks who think that School Personnel are always right and parents are always idiots.

I read the whole story, both the school and the mother's response, and that is NOT what happened. The School Person REPLACED the whole lunch with an ALTERNATE version, not just "supplemented". AND even if you wanted to Supplement the kids lunch what was lacking (please answer) that fried nuggets was needed???????

If you can't answer the question, then you're just as ill informed as the Meat Police were.

But hey, don't let READING the full story to get distort your leftwing nanny state.

Re:BOGUS STORY (-1, Troll)

Jeremiah Cornelius (137) | more than 2 years ago | (#39069109)

Just wondering, does your pussy hurt after being screwed so hard?

Re:BOGUS STORY (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39069047)

And once again, we see the difference between slashdot and a reasonably reliable news site.

How the hell does crap like this make it onto slashdot??? Is there some deep-seated desire to cultivate the image of this site being run by and for a bunch of undereducated dorks who have not clue one about how the world works? If so, congratulations -- you managed to keep that misperception alive for at least another month or two with this non-story.

Well.. (5, Funny)

pimpsoftcom (877143) | more than 2 years ago | (#39068439)

Maybe it didn't have what plants crave?

Re:Well.. (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39068483)

She could have gotten Brawndo from a drinking fountain.

Despicable (1, Insightful)

damn_registrars (1103043) | more than 2 years ago | (#39068449)

.... not so much the fact that this may have happened, but the fact that slashdot put it on the front page. This story has set the conservative blogosphere alight over "obama's nanny state" and what have you while overlooking one huge glaring problem here...

They are taking the word of a four year old kid to be god's-own-truth. I'm not saying she's intentionally lying, but how many reliable four year olds have you met in your life time? There could well be a very large gap between what she was told and what she thought she heard, and yet another between what she did and what she told her parents.

Re:Despicable (2)

HappyCycling (565803) | more than 2 years ago | (#39068505)

How would the child that age be sent home? Walking? Obviously the parents had to be contacted. I'm sure they were told something.

Re:Despicable (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39068581)

Or they could've provided a substitute and let go the girl at the end of the day with uneaten one.

Re:Despicable (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39068539)

The parent states she received a note and bill, where exactly is someone taking the 4 yr old's word on anything?

Re:Despicable (4, Informative)

dex22 (239643) | more than 2 years ago | (#39068635)

I presume the letter the school sent home with the child, explaining their reasoning and charging the parents $1.25 for the chicken nuggets - which was provided to the original reporter - was enough for the original and more reputable news source to go ahead and print the story.

Re:Despicable (1)

sjames (1099) | more than 2 years ago | (#39068693)

No, they're relying on the note (and bill) the child brought home. I doubt very much that a 4 year old forged the note.

Re:Despicable (1)

TheGratefulNet (143330) | more than 2 years ago | (#39068897)

"signed, epstein's mother"

(GOML)

Re:Despicable (1)

damn_registrars (1103043) | more than 2 years ago | (#39068957)

No, they're relying on the note (and bill) the child brought home. I doubt very much that a 4 year old forged the note.

Except that the note, at least the way it was mentioned in the article, does not explicitly mention that girl's lunch. If you look at the article, you'll see:

she received a note from the school stating that students who did not bring a âoehealthy lunchâ would be offered the missing portions, which could result in a fee from the cafeteria

They did not say that note was specifically received in response to this lunch; it could have just as well been a note that was sent out at the start of preschool.

So the note does not need to have been forged to make this absurd. It could well have been received on a different date altogether or not for a specific incident. I don't dispute that the child was billed for lunch; rather I doubt that a four-year-old girl is capable of giving a completely accurate account of what happened, especially considering how emotional the quoted response was from her parents.

Re:Despicable (1)

Xandrax (2451618) | more than 2 years ago | (#39068723)

While I agree that this is a popular item on the conservative side of things, I've not seen any mention of it being an "Obama" nanny-state issue, just nanny-state in general. The majority of people who get riled up over this would get riled up over nanny-state issues caused by either the right or left. Personally, I think it's reported more widely and derisively on the right side of things because the left is generally more accepting of higher levels of government involvement in people's lives.

Re:Despicable (1)

msauve (701917) | more than 2 years ago | (#39068757)

"taking the word of a four year old kid"

In what way, exactly? The girl's mother says she received a note from the school regarding the incident. Are you claiming the 4 year old kid faked the note?

Re:Despicable (4, Insightful)

damn_registrars (1103043) | more than 2 years ago | (#39069089)

taking the word of a four year old kid

In what way, exactly? The girl's mother says she received a note from the school regarding the incident. Are you claiming the 4 year old kid faked the note?

No, I am not claiming the note to be fake.

Go back and re-RTFA. They did not say that the note was specifically in response to this lunch, only that it came from the school - time not specified. While the receipt was from the same day, the note could have been a school policy that was handed out when preschool first started.

Even more so, people are taking the girl's word that the school somehow ordered her to not heat her own lunch and have only three chicken nuggets. I'm not accusing her of lying, rather I am inclined to believe she did not understand what she was told.

RTFA: There was a note sent home.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39068779)

Unless you're suggesting the 4 year-old forged the note.

Re:Despicable (2)

meerling (1487879) | more than 2 years ago | (#39068881)

My seven year old is apparently still in an ever-changing subjective reality with only a few commonalities shared with her parents views of reality.

Re:Despicable (-1, Flamebait)

Mashiki (184564) | more than 2 years ago | (#39068893)

Yes. Obviously conservatives are taking the kids word for it. Not the physical evidence, like the note, or demands to pay, or anything else.

How the hell your post got to +5 boggles my mind.

INspector is Right (-1, Flamebait)

superflit (1193931) | more than 2 years ago | (#39068471)

Just a damn sandwich and potato chip DOES not make a healthy meal for a child.

IF she is angry maybe she cannot understand what is a healthy meal.

Check her BMI (mother) surely we will know she does not know what a healthy meal it is...

Re:INspector is Right (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39068511)

Just a sandwich and potato chips? I think you forgot to mention the banana and the apple juice.

OH WAIT, that would have derailed your whole argument and the "fat" joke. Sorry.

Re:INspector is Right (-1, Flamebait)

superflit (1193931) | more than 2 years ago | (#39068665)

Just a sandwich and potato chips? I think you forgot to mention the banana and the apple juice.

OH WAIT, that would have derailed your whole argument and the "fat" joke. Sorry.

a banana....will Make all junk food healthier....sure...

And apple juice too......

RIIIIGGHT....

Re:INspector is Right (1)

cynyr (703126) | more than 2 years ago | (#39068887)

please provide a kid friendly alt for baked lays that is readily available at a normal supermarket for around the same cost.

Re:INspector is Right (1)

superflit (1193931) | more than 2 years ago | (#39069025)

Lays is NOT 'meal' or healthy food.

It is a 'snack'!!!! Something you eat and you KNOW is not healthy....

Even a simple small cooked potatoes are better and cost effective...

But hey....
Say no to little johnny is hard...

Fight with little johnny or appease and go along...

There is a price in each decision...

Re:INspector is Right (5, Informative)

tragedy (27079) | more than 2 years ago | (#39069035)

From the article:

The Division of Child Development and Early Education at the Department of Health and Human Services requires all lunches served in pre-kindergarten programs — including in-home day care centers — to meet USDA guidelines. That means lunches must consist of one serving of meat, one serving of milk, one serving of grain, and two servings of fruit or vegetables, even if the lunches are brought from home

Sandwhich was turkey and cheese and was made of bread, so that's the meat, the dairy and the grain, and the banana covers the "fruit or vegetables". A reasonable quantity of potato chips isn't unhealthy, and neither is apple juice. Also, the alternate meal that the girl was given apparently consisted of chicken nuggets.

The USDA requirements are a bit of a joke anyway. They're not really based on particularly good dietary science, they mostly conform to politics rather than real nutritional standards. Meat, vegetables and fruit sure, but dairy and grains? They're not necessarily bad for you, but they're also not requirements. Calcium is important, but you can get it in other ways than dairy, and you can certainly get better sugars, proteins and fats from other sources once you're no longer an infant. Pretty much anything you could get from "grains" (which covers a range of things that are mostly nutritionally just carbohydrates) you can get from a larger vegetable serving.

There are certainly meals that can be put together that aren't healthy, but you probably have to put a lot of effort into doing worse than the typical school lunch in the first place. If the mother in the story had sent her child to school with a big cube of liver, a raw brussels sprout and a bottle of beet juice it would have been a lot healthier than the USDA requirements or the school lunch. Her child would probably beg to be taken away by social services, but the meal would be healthy.

Re:INspector is Right (2, Insightful)

malchus842 (741252) | more than 2 years ago | (#39068517)

Did you read what was in the lunch? You missed it. Not just a sandwhich and chips. A banana. Apple Juice. This is a perfectly healthy meal. The nanny state has gone mad and the enforcers have lost their minds due to abusive power....

Re:INspector is Right (4, Insightful)

reub2000 (705806) | more than 2 years ago | (#39068599)

Since when is apple juice healthy?

Re:INspector is Right (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39068885)

At least more healthy than Coca Cola.

Re:INspector is Right (0)

cynyr (703126) | more than 2 years ago | (#39068929)

how is 100% apple juice with no added sugar un-healthy in a single (6-8oz) serving per day?

Re:INspector is Right (4, Informative)

tibit (1762298) | more than 2 years ago | (#39069079)

It's about as un-healthy (or healthy, as it may be) as eating the equivalent amount of sugar and washing it down with water. I'd take the water without the sugar, please.

Re:INspector is Right (0)

tragedy (27079) | more than 2 years ago | (#39069071)

Depends on the mix, but it generally doesn't fall into the unhealthy camp. Just watch out for too much added sugar. Probably better to just eat an apple and drink water, of course.

Re:INspector is Right (4, Insightful)

artor3 (1344997) | more than 2 years ago | (#39068943)

The mother voluntarily enrolled in a program to give her kid extra food, since she was unable to provide full meals every day. She received a note from the school that she may be charged for such extra portions in the future, but not a single parent has been charged to date.

So please, enlighten us as to how this is "the nanny state gone mad", and not just a case of morons being fooled into thinking that a mole hill is a mountain?

Re:INspector is Right (1)

tibit (1762298) | more than 2 years ago | (#39069065)

Apple juice is arguably useless (it's just sugared water with apple taste). Banana is like a potato, but with sweeter taste and more potassium methinks. It all gets digested down to simple sugars, so feel free to eat whichever suits your taste the best, but nutritionally there is zilch of difference IIRC. A sandwich and chips may be enough for one meal, I'd think...

Re:INspector is Right (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39068525)

You are a fucking retard. Please do not breed.

Re:INspector is Right (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39068527)

you are yet another kool-aid drinker (Ghana style). Read the entire story, her lunch included a banana and apple juice. The BMI-jackboots forced her to eat chicken nuggets instead and charged her mother for them. You are simply a dumb-*ss.

Re:INspector is Right (1)

wiedzmin (1269816) | more than 2 years ago | (#39068553)

BMI doesn't mean anything, I can eat anything and everything, regardless of fat content, deep-fry levels or amount of MSG and I stay skinny as a twig - your metabolism is where it's at. Personally I would only deem the above lunch unhealthy only if the sandwich had no vegetables on it and amount of potato chips was obscene...

Re:INspector is Right (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39069113)

I notice you don't mention your cholesterol level, or whether you've ever had an angiogram to examine the health of the arteries leading to your heart. What you look like on the OUTSIDE isn't the whole story old bean, not now, or maybe more important, in ten or fifteen years time.

Re:INspector is Right (2, Insightful)

sjames (1099) | more than 2 years ago | (#39068583)

There was also the apple juice and a banana. It sure sounds better than the chicken nuggets the school gave the kid as a replacement.

But don't let the facts get in the way!

So, which one do you hate, fat people or parents? You seem to have unresolved issues somewhere.

Re:INspector is Right (-1, Flamebait)

superflit (1193931) | more than 2 years ago | (#39068717)

There was also the apple juice and a banana. It sure sounds better than the chicken nuggets the school gave the kid as a replacement.

But don't let the facts get in the way!

So, which one do you hate, fat people or parents? You seem to have unresolved issues somewhere.

So Yes...

Lets eat a lot of POTATO chips... pinch a little banana... and COSTCO apple juice from concentrate .

And EVERYHTING will be healthier... Nice way to think....

BTW.... U Jelly bro?

Re:INspector is Right (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39068979)

Strawman arguments are lies.

Re:INspector is Right (2, Informative)

artor3 (1344997) | more than 2 years ago | (#39069011)

Apple juice is terrible for you. It's just flavored sugar water. See for yourself [self.com] . The fact that it comes from a fruit doesn't automagically make it healthy.

Re:INspector is Right (1)

cheekyjohnson (1873388) | more than 2 years ago | (#39068685)

I don't care if it wasn't healthy. I don't think the schools should be choosing what food kids are allowed to bring to eat.

Re:INspector is Right (1)

bky1701 (979071) | more than 2 years ago | (#39068737)

Why do you think it's your business, again?

It is both scary and disheartening when the libertarians are right.

Re:INspector is Right (0)

superflit (1193931) | more than 2 years ago | (#39068867)

Why do you think it's your business, again?

It is both scary and disheartening when the libertarians are right.

It is not MY business.

But if there is child being neglected it is a SOCIETY problem.
and a very young child HAS to eat healthy to became well adapted and with all COGNITIVES abilities developed.

Therefore we will not have this discussion ;)

Re:INspector is Right (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39068739)

Apparently you don't know what the BMI actually is or its near-complete irrelevance to a person's health. That being said, I'm not going to trust your nutritional advice.

Further, maybe you should read things more carefully; the lunch was: a turkey and cheese sandwich, banana, potato chips, and apple juice. Additionally, the school is required to supplement an incomplete lunch (which, it looks like in this case, would be to give her a vegetable; no, potato chips are not vegetables), NOT send the girl home with an uneaten lunch after forcing upon her the "healthier" school-provided chicken nuggets.

What the Hell did you get for school lunch, anyway? Because I definitely got a Little Debbie snack "cake" and a can of pop. (I also got a PB&J sandwich, but I never ate it, because I don't like PB or grape jelly, and it was ALWAYS grape jelly.)

Before you ask, my BMI is 24.4 (within normal limits), so you can see that my general level of unhealthiness is unrelated to the irrelevant metric that is the BMI.

Re:INspector is Right (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39068767)

I might agree if it were a bologna sandwich or some other processed and pressed "meat food", but it was a turkey sandwich. Further, the "healthy" substitute the child was given were chicken nuggets. CHICKEN FUCKING NUGGETS! You can't get much more unhealthy than high sodium, mechanically separated chicken bits pressed formed, battered and deep fried.

The most ridiculous part of it are the so-called USDA requirements for a healthy lunch:

The Division of Child Development and Early Education at the Department of Health and Human Services requires all lunches served in pre-kindergarten programs — including in-home day care centers — to meet USDA guidelines. That means lunches must consist of one serving of meat, one serving of milk, one serving of grain, and two servings of fruit or vegetables, even if the lunches are brought from home.

I was raised as a vegetarian, which meant absolutely no meat and no dairy and I think I can safely say that it made me a much healthier person than your average non-vegetarian. I can just imagine what would happen if a child showed up in this back-assward school with a veggie lunch. They'd give the child chicken nuggets and cause the child to become ill. Who the hell are these clowns to make a choice like that for others?

I'm glad that I grew up in the olden days and I feel sorry for the parents and children who have to put up with bullshit being pushed by these morons.

one more reason to homeschool (1, Interesting)

Adult film producer (866485) | more than 2 years ago | (#39068485)

Sure, the teachers might not be at fault her (I need to insert that comment to pretend I give a damn about the needs of the teachers) but what have they done to stop this nonsense? *cough*

No Chicken Nuggets. (4, Funny)

hawks5999 (588198) | more than 2 years ago | (#39068491)

All school kids need chicken nuggets.

conservative rag.. nothing to see here (4, Interesting)

Sebastopol (189276) | more than 2 years ago | (#39068495)

I'll wait for some investigation into this. Note the source, TheBlaze, is an inquirer-like conservative rag.

Re:conservative rag.. nothing to see here (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39068675)

Ok then....

http://www.carolinajournal.com/exclusives/homemade-lunch-replaced-with-cafeteria-nuggets.html [carolinajournal.com]

Their source.

NOT surprised that happened in NC. They consistently rank in the lowest scores in the nation. There is a reason for that... The teachers do not care. The administration punishes those who do care. They also consistently pay the least in the nation for teachers (15-25k is typical). My guess some TA screwed up. The school backed them up. Now they are trying to save face... I have seen many examples of this sort of thing here.

Re:conservative rag.. nothing to see here (3, Informative)

unitron (5733) | more than 2 years ago | (#39069051)

The people behind Carolina Journal are the John Locke Foundation, not exactly an unbiased source.

Re:conservative rag.. nothing to see here (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39068683)

Exactly, though there are much better write ups out there but letâ(TM)s go with a NBC channel in order to be more neutral.
http://www2.nbc17.com/news/2012/feb/16/hoke-county-school-lunch-issue-sparks-controversy-ar-1939456/ [nbc17.com]

More importantly, if anyone in the process of getting this on the front page had say .. googled it. We might have avoided this. Spin baby spin.

Re:conservative rag.. nothing to see here (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39068713)

Specifically, that one guy whose name I can't remember.

Glenn Beck!

Article is BS. (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39068521)

Actual story:
- Lunch was not taken away from the girl; she was given extra food because they were worried she might not have enough.
- A standard form letter was sent to the parent, which said that she may be charged for the food - in fact, since the child was enrolled in the right program, she was not actually charged for the food
- The food given was milk and vegetables, not chicken nuggets.

http://ordinary-gentlemen.com/blog/2012/02/15/a-north-carolina-non-troversy/

Re:Article is BS. (3, Insightful)

paiute (550198) | more than 2 years ago | (#39068617)

This "story" was debunked on other sites, including reddit, hours ago. What the hell, Slashdot?

Re:Article is BS. (1)

narcc (412956) | more than 2 years ago | (#39068755)

Lunch was not taken away from the girl; she was given extra food because they were worried she might not have enough.

She's four-years old! A turkey and cheese sandwich and banana alone should be more than filling. Add the potato-chip snack and you've got a pretty big lunch for a four-year-old girl.

Apple Juice might not be the best choice of drink, sure, but this lunch seemed reasonably healthy and more than adequate for a 4-year-old.

that's outrageous! orange juice (1)

decora (1710862) | more than 2 years ago | (#39068847)

clearly provides a superior nutritional experience for the young people of this great nation, which our troops fight so bravely to defend. it's science. you can't argue with science.

-sincerely, the orange juice growers group of greater floridia

Re:Article is BS. (0)

Ichijo (607641) | more than 2 years ago | (#39068817)

Processed turkey contains some of the bad fats, cholesterol, and sodium.

Cheese contains bad fats and sodium.

White bread, has a high glycemic index.

There may be mayo, more bad fats, cholesterol, and sodium.

Bananas are good.

Potato chips, more bad fats and sodium.

Apple juice has a high glycemic index.

Re:Article is BS. (1)

Archangel Michael (180766) | more than 2 years ago | (#39069099)

You forget ... Bananas are filled with RADIOACTIVE Potassium, so much so that it sets off RADIATION monitors in ports as the ships come in.

A for effort though

Re:Article is BS. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39068831)

Can Slashdot *PLEASE* update articles like this when the summaries are so clearly incorrect?

Re:Article is BS. (1)

msauve (701917) | more than 2 years ago | (#39068905)

"she was given extra food because they were worried she might not have enough."

So, they had her eat the processed chicken turds, but she went home with her bag lunch uneaten. How did that ensure "she had enough?" Really, if people are hungry, and have food available, they'll eat it. The school had no reason to get involved unless the girl ate all that was packed in her lunch, and then complained of still being hungry.

Re:Article is BS. (3, Interesting)

russotto (537200) | more than 2 years ago | (#39069055)

Actual story:
- Lunch was not taken away from the girl; she was given extra food because they were worried she might not have enough.

Nor does the story say lunch was taken away from her. In fact, since she brought it home, it implies otherwise.

- A standard form letter was sent to the parent, which said that she may be charged for the food - in fact, since the child was enrolled in the right program, she was not actually charged for the food

This is also not at odds with the story, which said "which could result in a fee".

- The food given was milk and vegetables, not chicken nuggets.

Milk, a vegetable, a fruit, and chicken nuggets. Of which the girl, being a typical American 4-year-old, only ate the nuggets.

Tells more about the editor than anything else (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39068541)

This articles says a lot more about the editor that thought this was a credible story more than anything else. That credibility wasn't helped much by the the Goldline/Glen Beck add floating in the middle of it, either.

This has already been debunked. (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39068545)

http://ordinary-gentlemen.com/blog/2012/02/15/a-north-carolina-non-troversy/

And I must say, it is rather embarrassing for this site to be spreading such sensationalist garbage around, especially when no one's done the background research to verify it. We all love knee-jerk reactions induced by rantings from a personal blog, but come on.

Meal should of included BRAWNDO. (1)

synaptik (125) | more than 2 years ago | (#39068549)

Because, you know, it's got electrolytes.

Oh, come on, Slashdot! (5, Insightful)

Bruce Perens (3872) | more than 2 years ago | (#39068577)

Headline news!!! Someone unnamed, somewhere in America, did something stupid in a SCHOOL!!! To a LITTLE KID!!! And OFFENDED HER MOMMY!!!

Obviously, all of our rights are in danger! This is not an isolated incident, not just some person out there who's having a bad day, it's a slippery slope!!! WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO NIP THIS IN THE BUD!

OK, I'll get my breath back now.

I think it's a much bigger problem that anyone on Slashdot would think this story is worth posting.

Re:Oh, come on, Slashdot! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39068651)

the beauty is they will eventually get around to you, when its too late. Fool

Re:Oh, come on, Slashdot! (1)

pluther (647209) | more than 2 years ago | (#39068669)

Dammit. And right after I run out of mod points.

I'm sure I'll hear all about this "incident" from my conservative relatives who'll be dragging it out for years as more proof that it's only a matter of time before Michelle Obama's jackbooted thugs kick down my door to take away my ice cream.

Re:Oh, come on, Slashdot! (1)

Bruce Perens (3872) | more than 2 years ago | (#39068729)

You mean the conservative relatives who are lamenting the loss of incandescent bulbs, but are too dumb or lazy to be able to blow glass if they really wanted them?

Re:Oh, come on, Slashdot! (1)

Hatta (162192) | more than 2 years ago | (#39068711)

FWIW, it is in idle.

No, seriously. (5, Funny)

sonoftheright (1372723) | more than 2 years ago | (#39068579)

It sounds like the inspector just wanted a turkey sandwich.

At least she had food (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39068619)

Some of my family works in education and they tell me on a regular basis that few kids get to eat breakfast and many don't get lunches or only have pop and chips for lunch. Assuming the kid's story is true I think everyone should be glad the mom is sending lunches at all. Sadly it's not the norm these days in a lot of places.

No they didn't (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39068625)

Yeah, this story is bullshit [ordinary-gentlemen.com] . The school provides supplementary food for the kids because some parents can't afford to provide fully balanced meals, no one is throwing out anyone's lunch here.

according to tfa slashdot (-1, Flamebait)

nimbius (983462) | more than 2 years ago | (#39068653)

and i do hope im not doing any egregious harm to this delightful piece of rightwing fearmongering.

"in North Carolina, all pre-Kindergarten programs are required to evaluate the lunches being provided and determine if they meet USDA nutrition guidelines. If not, they must provide an alternative."

the lunch contained the following:
turkey and cheese sandwich, banana, potato chips, and apple juice
apple juice, and potato chips are essentially nutritionally devoid; nothing more than sugar and fat. the banana is an excellent choice, but turkey and cheese on white bread is essentially the minimum effort from this parent.

im not trolling. the problem isnt the inspector, its the government presuming american parents after 40 years of fast food and processed meals from diners and grocery stores still remember how to construct a nutritionally balanced meal that didnt come out of a box, can, or bag. its the audacious assumption that politicians in north carolina who take months of vacation and certainly have time to prepare the aformentioned balanced meal, are identical to your average family working multiple jobs or shifts at a fraction of the wage of a politician.

i dont have a problem combating childhood obesity, but north carolinas proposal essentially forces millions of parents to do something that based upon american obesity statistics, most do not understand how to accomplish.

Re:according to tfa slashdot (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39068823)

I was with you until you started getting into the "white bread and apple juice are unhealthy" extremist rhetoric.

Look, I understand that chips and burgers are unhealthy, but I am not going to spend my life consuming only nuts, whole-grain bread and water.
If white bread and juice are a problem. then you can shove your dietetic values up your ass and politely go fuck yourself, Feel free to eat pure vitamin goo like in the Matrix, but I want my food to be tasty as well as my kid's food. White bread hasn't kill anyone, alright? Now kindly piss off, you freedom hater.

Re:according to tfa slashdot (2)

TheBig1 (966884) | more than 2 years ago | (#39068935)

White bread is tasteless, textureless goo; I am all for food to taste good, but whole wheat bread (with extra grains such as flax and whatnot added for texture and taste, as well as nutritional value) is far ahead of white bread. Whenever given the chance, I pick whole wheat over white bread, and am very happy with that choice.

Bullshit, and yet... (0)

pclminion (145572) | more than 2 years ago | (#39068657)

The fruit juice and the potato chips are a bunch of garbage carbohydrate -- if you're going to eat an apple do it in the form of eating an apple, not drinking the concentrated juice. Having said that, while I agree with the PRINCIPLE of the school's decision, I absolutely disagree with their perceived duty to ENFORCE this kind of thinking. If people want to feed their kids toxic garbage, they should have the freedom. I'd throw a hell of a stink if this happened to my kid (though it probably wouldn't (ever happen), seeing as I apparently take the same view of nutrition as the school in this case and would never send him with a lunch containing such an absurd item as potato chips)

Re:Bullshit, and yet... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39068793)

"If people want to feed their kids toxic garbage" --- No... no they shouldn't have that right anymore than the right to beat their kids or starve them. Adults need to be responsible for their children's well being because the child is not yet old enough to make their own informed decisions what they want to do with their life and their body. If you (a consenting adult) wants to eat toxic garbage I have no problem with this (provided your insurance covers the costs), but children need to be safegaurded from idiot parents. Mindyou, I'm not saying this is the case for this story.... this just needed to be said.

Re:Bullshit, and yet... (3, Insightful)

bky1701 (979071) | more than 2 years ago | (#39068821)

"If you (a consenting adult) wants to eat toxic garbage I have no problem with this (provided your insurance covers the costs)"

Ding-ding-ding-ding... this, right here, is why we will never have socialized medicine in the US: because people like you see it as an excuse to start designating what is "right." It is exactly the reason there was such a fuss, and while largely unfounded, it obviously had some truth as long as this sort of nonsense gets spewed.

Re:Bullshit, and yet... (0)

bbecker23 (1917560) | more than 2 years ago | (#39068807)

If people want to feed their kids toxic garbage, they should have the freedom.

Wrong. If people want to feed themselves garbage, they should have the freedom. I'll grant you that. But the second you start feeding the same garbage to your children, personal freedom is over. Having seen the kinds of lunches (read as: processed corn) children bring to school, it borders on child abuse in many cases.

Re:Bullshit, and yet... (1)

artor3 (1344997) | more than 2 years ago | (#39069037)

The article is a lie. The kid did not have her lunch confiscated. She was given extra food on top of it, because her mother had voluntarily enrolled in a special program. The girl, being four years old, was simply confused and thought she wasn't supposed to eat the food she brought from home.

Someone made a mistake... (4, Insightful)

fahrbot-bot (874524) | more than 2 years ago | (#39068673)

From TFA:

But what was so wrong with the lunch the mother provided? Nothing apparently. A spokesowman for the Division of Child Development explained that the mother’s meal should have been okay.

“With a turkey sandwich, that covers your protein, your grain, and if it had cheese on it, that’s the dairy,” Jani Kozlowski, the fiscal and statutory policy manager for the division, told the Journal. “It sounds like the lunch itself would’ve met all of the standard.”

It‘s unclear from reports who determined the lunch wasn’t healthy enough. ... The school denied knowledge of the incident and said it’s looking into it.

The real funny thing is at the bottom of TFA, people are posting rants against the Gov'ment and Michelle Obama, but it's a North Carolina rule, so people should be upset with their elected officials instead and, by proxy, themselves for voting for them...

Healthy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39068681)

Are we talking about the US here? The US is the capital of the unhealthy food market. The change in food quality and healthyness from Canada to the States is shocking, I couldn't imagine finding some of the food I see in the states in Canada. For a school to send a girls lunch back for being unhealthy is out of control, has that inspector walked into a grocery store down there.

Yet again another problem with an easy solution. (0, Offtopic)

Karmashock (2415832) | more than 2 years ago | (#39068701)

Vouchers.

It solves practically every issue you could name with public schools.

A comprehensive voucher program that ensured that every child got a free education at a private school would solve pretty much everything.

Many states spend a LOT of money on public education. It's hard to see all the money because it's spread around in lots of different accounts that are rarely all taken together. But it's big money. And private schools designed to operate on that budget are very practical and would be superior in every way.

Parents don't like the school? In big cities there should be a dozen other options and in small towns there should be at least two alternatives. It's not a big deal. it's not that hard.

What we're suffering from here is over centralization. Well meaning people make up a bunch of rules from some central planning office and then force everyone else to follow them with no discretion. The larger a system gets the less efficient centralization becomes. Fragment the system and all those problems go away.

Rather then having huge school boards or state education programs. Break it down so that every school manages itself. Make them accountable for what their students achieve. And if they don't achieve make it very clear that parents can take the kids out at will and put them in a competing institution... leaving the first school starving.

Do that and schools will compete with each other for students. Teachers will compete with each other. And that competition will make our schools better.

Think about the real world. Where does competition not make people and companies better at what they do? Basically nowhere. Make this part of the system and this sort of mindless incompetence will vanish.

Re:Yet again another problem with an easy solution (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39068785)

What we're suffering from here is over centralization.

I'll be first in line to say the American educational system has its problems, but by and large centralizaztion isn't one of them. In my state, which has 82 counties, there are around 150 public school districts, and God only knows how many private schools in addition. And that's hardly an outlier.

Re:Yet again another problem with an easy solution (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39068913)

Bullshit.

The invisible hand of the free market does not solve everything and vouchers are just a long term plan of privatizing profits and socializing the losses. Private schools get to cream-skim/cherry-pick pupils while public schools become basket cases over the long term due to falling budgets and thus no money for teachers to teach the pupils at the lower socioeconomic spectrum who have more family problems in general, creating even a larger divide than there is now.

>implying that centralization is a problem

No. Just no. My state is 47 miles the long way and it has 39 cities and towns, each with their own school systems.

You are on crack, sir.

--
BMO

Killer juice (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39068721)

Could it be that most apple juices contain arsenic? Apple juice=Cancer?

Old news (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39068753)

True story. The lunch did not have a vegetable.

Potato chips (2)

C_Kode (102755) | more than 2 years ago | (#39068759)

Our school district doesn't allow most potato chips either. Sun Chips are okay, but Doritos or any type of potato chips you cannot have. They will take it away from your kids.

Re:Potato chips (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39068951)

That's how the Nazi's started.

Re:Potato chips (1)

6ULDV8 (226100) | more than 2 years ago | (#39069017)

"I'll give you my Doritos when you pry them from my cold, dead hands!"

Let's appoint... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39068775)

samzenpus for Principal!

slashdot jumps the shark (0)

decora (1710862) | more than 2 years ago | (#39068819)

or, to put it more accurately, slashdot sends the lunch home.

I wouldn't give my daughter processed meat (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39068833)

I would agree with the inspector
Apple juice has high concentrations of sugar and pesticides.
Processed meat have preservatives proven to be carcinogens.
I don't know about the potato chips, but they are usually loaded with oil and salt.

Fat inspector (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39068863)

What is ironic is that the State Inspector for North Carolina is almost certainly over 300 pounds.

Prisons have better food then some schools (1, Informative)

Joe_Dragon (2206452) | more than 2 years ago | (#39068921)

Prisons have better food then some schools and prisons have a store where you can buy pop and candy as well.

http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2012/02/01/prison-food-is-better-than-japanese-school-lunches [crunchyroll.com]
http://www.cari-fit.com/2011/06/school-lunches-worse-than-prison-food/ [cari-fit.com]

For Some Truly Dumbass Shit (5, Informative)

RazorSharp (1418697) | more than 2 years ago | (#39068991)

Check out other great stories with the nottrue tag: http://slashdot.org/tag/nottrue [slashdot.org]

My favorite is "Michigan Teen Creates Fusion Device."

News for Nerds? (3, Insightful)

Dave Emami (237460) | more than 2 years ago | (#39069107)

I was interested when I read this story elsewhere, but what is it doing on Slashdot? Our school lunch experiences are more along these lines [youtube.com] . That or getting our lunch money stolen by brawnier members of the student body.
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