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Upgraded toilets (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39133935)

... now come with a Start button. Blue loo of death, anyone?

Re:Upgraded toilets (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39134097)

aww -1 for the poor sod? FWIW, I got a chuckle

Re:Upgraded toilets (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39134579)

I'm hijacking this since it's not interesting.

Bill Gates should work on toilets that are more sanitary to use. First if we could avoid wiping with paper this would be awesome.
Second, wiping isn't hygienic enough. A system that cleans you automatically or that somehow removes the need to use the toilet entirely would be a lot more useful.

But no, foreigners in backwards countries get priority. Hey Bill, who gave you all your money? Yeah, your Windows customers all live in the West, not in Africa. How about you show some gratitude to the people who made you what you are?
Your work fighting AIDS and whatever else is nice, but why don't we, Europeans and Americans, get anything ever?

We get expensive broken Windows, for which we even pay for, and Africans who fight each other all the time because they can't even organize a country, get all the nice stuff. Very classy, Bill.

To those who think I'm a selfish jerk: seriously, I don't care. I buy Western technology in order to develop technology and get access to improved technology. I try to support innovation by buying Windows instead of Mac. I expect something in return for that support, this is only fair.
But what do I get in return? Nothing. Windows is still crap after all these years, but Africa get all the good, working technology that Microsoft/Gates develop or finance.
Africans get high-tech toilets and I still have to wipe shit with my hand paper.

Next time I'll buy Apple, they may not invent much and mostly just improve the inventions of others, but I feel that at least my monetary support will be rewarded.
I really don't care much about poor people in foreign countries on the other side of the world, sorry. The West managed to develop it's economy on it's own and I see no reason why third-world countries can't do the same. It's their own fault obviously. We had it just as bad as Africa and still we succeeded - we defeated the plague, the inquisition and other terrible issues that put African civil wars to shame.

Re:Upgraded toilets (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39134769)

Classy, Coward, real classy. "We had it just as bad", "It's their fault obviously". So you're saying slavery did nothing to get your precious USA ahead, nor did it do anything to keep Africa back? You're saying that endless western meddling has been nothing but positive and helpful to these "foreign countries on the other side of the world"? Just a coincidence that the countries with the most natural resources are the poorest, while folks in NY and London get filthy rich from stealing same?

I know, I know, don't feed the trolls.. Couldn't resist though, had to take the bait. What utter and unapologetic stupidity. You don't even deserve the TP, fool.

Re:Upgraded toilets (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39135223)

Complete nonsense. The souths industrial output with slave labor was staggering.
And the African tribes that sold rival tribes to Dutch slave traders were certainly much better off financially and politically.
We could decrease our welfare state and improve the lives of modern Negroes by sending our Mexican cousins back over the border to revolt and set up a new government based on ours, then SRS could have every able bodied Negro fill a job previously filled by illegal Mexican immigrants. Of course since they haven't much experience working and are basically lazy in that lifestyle to begin with, we will have to make the transition from welfare to work one way and deny any claims from quitters. It may even take two Negros to fill the place of one Mexican. In that case, merely pay them half. Pay them what they are worth just like anyone. Then we start making policies toward phasing out gangsta culture. Gang members may be imprisoned in a work camp in Rural Alaska, clearing the way for pipelines, replanting and caring for local flora and learn a new way of life while contributing.
Locally we can take a cue from the south and bring back the "prison road crew" this will offset some of the cost of both incarceration and road improvement. Then we will see how "state road crews" still stand around with their thumbs in their butts as the imprisoned Negros outwork them in public view.

Re:Upgraded toilets (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39135309)

Fuck Africa, and fuck those god damn niggers. I was born and live in the USA, and I'm not happy about a lot of things in this country (in fact, the government really has a tendency to piss me off).

Slavery is the worst thing our ancestors did in my opinion; why bring those worthless black motherfuckers over here? Now they're getting more rights and protection from the government than us, they're fucking all the white girls and making god damn Oreos, and they're just fucking up the country and mankind--period.

Hell, there's a fucking nigger in the Oval Office running the country further into the ground right now after G. W. Bush sent us on a sharp downward slope, we've got Nigger Luther King Day that just passed recently and causes all government functions to cease, and on top of that Nigger History Month--for whatever reason--gets to torment us for an entire fucking month. Now, why did we bring them black fuckwads over here with us again? To do our work for us? Well, I'm sorry, but it wasn't worth it. Those assfucks should have been left in Africa where they could continue swinging with the monkeys in the trees.

Now not only would the niggers need to be sent back to Africa, but so would any nigger-loving whites--otherwise, they'd have the niggers return. It'd be better if the motherfuckers stayed in Africa, and any white nigger-loving whores just shut up and move there too. Just get all the niggers, nigger lovers and oreos out of here.

Re:Upgraded toilets (2, Funny)

Joce640k (829181) | more than 2 years ago | (#39134867)

"First World Problems", indeed.

Maybe you could employ an immigrant to wipe your ass for you. Do your bit to help the poor people.

Re:Upgraded toilets (0)

flyneye (84093) | more than 2 years ago | (#39135263)

Maybe we could employ an immigrant to design Bills potty! Wouldn't it be cool if the next Einstein or Tesla reinvents the crapper?
If you recall Bills buddy and inventor of the internet, Al Gore made policies that caused toilets not to be able to flush a complete steakhouse crap down with one flush. Seems Al wanted to save water and thought a one gallon flush would be just fine to wash his little vegetarian stool down the loo, unfortunately for the other 99% of the population that require human food this caused two flushes and aggravation. Kind of exposes the Repubmocrats picks for office as the tards they really are, doncha think? Beside the point.

        I just want a toilet that flushes the way it's supposed to, then we add accessories. Priorities, jeez....

Re:Upgraded toilets (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39134905)

Mod parent up

Re:Upgraded toilets (0)

flyneye (84093) | more than 2 years ago | (#39135299)

Perhaps, if we invented toilet paper acceptable to Arabs, then Al Gore, the man who destroyed the working toilet with policy, wouldn't have to worry about any "left hand shakes" from visiting UAE dignitaries.
Just a thought...

Re:Upgraded toilets (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39135409)

Bill Gates should work on toilets that are more sanitary to use. First if we could avoid wiping with paper this would be awesome.

1. Visit Japan
2. Find a supplier
3. Import modern toilets
4. Profit!

Seriously. The Japanese have toilets that automatically wash and blow-dry your ass, and sing to you while they do it.
Meanwhile, we here in the "civilized West" still shit in porcelain buckets.

Re:Upgraded toilets (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39134729)

I wonder what the poot splash will look like.

Re:Upgraded toilets (1)

martin-boundary (547041) | more than 2 years ago | (#39134819)

I don't know about you, but if the wall-paper for the new toilet is three seashells, I'll take my chances with being cryogenically frozen until December 31, 2999!

Re:Upgraded toilets (1)

g0bshiTe (596213) | more than 2 years ago | (#39135811)

I wonder if it gets infected if it operates slower. "Your request caused an invalid page fault in kernel32.flsh, Click here to report this problem"

Bill Gates (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39133937)

Bill Gates (1955–) Cofounder and chairman, Microsoft Corporation Born: October 28, 1955, in Seattle, Washington. Education: Attended Harvard University, 1973–1975. Family: Son of William Henry Gates II (attorney) and Mary Maxwell (teacher); married Melinda French (Microsoft manager), January 1, 1994; children: three. Career: Lakeside Programming Group, 1968–1969, founder; Traf-O-Data, 1970–1973, founder; Microsoft Corporation, 1975–, founder and chairman; 1975–2000, CEO; 1992–1998, president. Awards: U.S. National Medal of Technology, 1993; Chief Executive of the Year, Chief Executive, 1994; President's Medal of Leadership Award, New York Institute of Technology, 1995; Louis Braille Gold Medal, Canadian National Institute for the Blind, 2002; Knight Commander of the Order of the British Empire, 2004. beach wedding dresses [formaldressup.com] Publications: The Road Ahead (with Nathan Myhrvold and Peter Rinearson), 1995; Business @ the Speed of Thought, 1999. Address: Microsoft Corporation, 1 Microsoft Way, Building 8, North O, Redmond, Washington 98052-6399; William Henry Gates III cofounded the Microsoft Corporation in 1975, built his software company into the one of the most successful businesses in the world, and established himself in the process as the world's richest man. Although Bill Gates started Microsoft as a small business based on a single innovative software program that he had helped to develop, his real genius was his business acumen. As the long-time CEO of Microsoft, Gates was able to borrow and integrate other computer programmers' innovations and sell them to a new and rapidly expanding home computer market. In 1985, 10 years after Microsoft was founded, it had $140 million in revenue, which grew to $28 billion by 2002. One of the pioneers of home computing, Gates proved himself to be a technological visionary and software applications guru. According to industry analysts, he also demonstrated that he was a shrewd marketing strategist as well as an aggressive corporate leader. mdd3958504 [blogspot.com]

MS Windows: Human energy into waste. (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39133947)

Has to be said.

Re:MS Windows: Human energy into waste. (4, Funny)

Myria (562655) | more than 2 years ago | (#39134965)

the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation pledged to spend millions to reinvent the toilet. That investment has born fruit

I'm not sure I want to know what kind of fruit a toilet has to bear.

Re:MS Windows: Human energy into waste. (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39135993)

Dingleberries?

I don't want to attack Bill Gates. (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39133951)

I don't want to say anything bad about Bill, but this sounds like a pretty shitty idea.

Re:I don't want to attack Bill Gates. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39133971)

I don't want to say anything bad about Bill, but this sounds like a pretty shitty idea.

Yes. Saying bad things about Bill Gates would really be very tasteless.

Let's tell nigger jokes instead.

Re:I don't want to attack Bill Gates. (5, Informative)

Intelligenta (2568347) | more than 2 years ago | (#39134041)

To be honest, the amount of good Bill Gates has done for the world is quite remarkable. Since 2007 he has given away $28 billion, saving 6 million lives [businessinsider.com]. That's $2 billion more than US budget for foreign aid. Say what you want about Gates or Microsoft, but he really has helped the world with the money he made.

Re:I don't want to attack Bill Gates. (1)

DSS11Q13 (1853164) | more than 2 years ago | (#39134061)

sure, but how many bombs has he dropped?

Re:I don't want to attack Bill Gates. (4, Funny)

SaidinUnleashed (797936) | more than 2 years ago | (#39134071)

You mean, other than Windows Me?

Re:I don't want to attack Bill Gates. (1)

maroberts (15852) | more than 2 years ago | (#39134205)

You mean, other than Windows Me?

..plus Vista

Re:I don't want to attack Bill Gates. (5, Funny)

Volguus Zildrohar (1618657) | more than 2 years ago | (#39134535)

You mean, other than Windows Me?

..plus Vista

Come on guys, don't mock the guy just because his earlier public toilet initiatives were less effective.

Re:I don't want to attack Bill Gates. (1)

Sulphur (1548251) | more than 2 years ago | (#39134211)

You mean, other than Windows Me?

Bob will get you for that.

Re:I don't want to attack Bill Gates. (1)

Taco Cowboy (5327) | more than 2 years ago | (#39134737)

You mean, other than Windows Me?

Bob will get you for that

Melinda Gates.

She was the one in charged of "Bob"

Re:I don't want to attack Bill Gates. (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39134433)

He is a wolf in sheepclothes and in bed with one of the most dangerous companies in the world, Monsanto.

No amount of good can make up for the criminal acts of that company.

Re:I don't want to attack Bill Gates. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39134545)

Oooh, I love this game.

Not even if it brought about world peace as prosperity for all time (without murdering or lobotomizing the entire world -- I know how evil genie minds work!)?

Re:I don't want to attack Bill Gates. (1, Interesting)

KiloByte (825081) | more than 2 years ago | (#39134705)

A good part of that money goes into ensuring that developing countries will never be able to produce drugs they need on their own. They get pre-made drugs, counting their worth at a few orders of magnitude above the manufacture cost, with a string attached: in order to receive free drugs, they need to pass laws forbidding domestic manufacture of said drugs, aka "respecting intellectual property".

Also, promoting Monsanto. Or, putting $50M into promoting male genital mutilation in Kenya while civilised people try to stop that barbaric practice.

So Bill Gates' charity is double-edged at best.

Re:I don't want to attack Bill Gates. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39134839)

And why, oh why would dear Billy boy want to deny those poor people affordable drugs?

Because he is in cohoots with the Club of Rome [wikipedia.org] (wikipedia.org), a think tank that is very concerned with the limits of world population growth, and the implied Malthusian catastrophe we probably face as a species.

Which goes to show that in spite of these feel-good stories that we're all too happy to publish and read, at the end of the day it is still a rich white guy doling out whatever he deems is appropriate to a bunch of poor brown guys. And at the end of the game, there will be one drug that M'beki can't afford and that you and I can't afford but that Dick Cheney and Bill Gates can afford, and as long as his money's still good he'll live and we'll die.

You can call it philanthropy, I guess, but it is -not- altruistic. It's the same breed of philanthropy a gangbanger undertakes when he "makes it rain" on a stripper--the philanthropy of slavedrivers, forcing nations to kowtow and sign up for more years of poison before they can be hooked into life support.

JK / I'm just a cynic / please CIA don't kill me with bullet cancer [youtube.com]. (youtube.com)

Re:I don't want to attack Bill Gates. (1)

queBurro (1499731) | more than 2 years ago | (#39134879)

sort of like Robin Hood? stealing from the poor, and then giving some of that back... to the poor?

Re:I don't want to attack Bill Gates. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39135217)

Hear hear! The article's insulting cover pic belies the good works Gates has done.
It's possible to hate Vista and still like Bill, people.

KISS Principle (5, Insightful)

EnempE (709151) | more than 2 years ago | (#39133981)

Some of these things seem rather complicated and use materials that aren't easy to obtain.

To provide greater benefit the machine should be able to be manufactured without specialized tools and be able to be built with universally available, preferably recyclable or re-purposed materials. If people can make a living out of making and servicing these toilets then the sanitary and economic (from the created industry) benefit will spread quickly and independently without requiring the oversight of a foreign NGO.

Re:KISS Principle (2)

davester666 (731373) | more than 2 years ago | (#39134321)

They just use a small amount of enriched uranium to aid in tracking where each unit is at all times. Geiger counters are cheaper than RFID readers and more reliable.

Re:KISS Principle (1)

XrayJunkie (2437814) | more than 2 years ago | (#39134675)

Thats right, but if you want more "advanced" products, you need advanced production systems.
There are some products that realize a good idea, but look around: new, better products come along with high-tech and feature rich functionality often realized by new materials, more software, state-of-the-art electronics and so on. And that is what brings an economy forward. Examples: Direct Manufactoring (http://dmrc.uni-paderborn.de/en/about-dmrc/?cHash=3be59309b4fe2e5a416267b052bcf74f), Molded interconnect devices (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molded_interconnect_device).

There are so many research initiatives (at least in germany) to push intelligent systems (buzzword: cyber physical systems) forward.

Make the plumbing out of sunlight and sand. (4, Interesting)

An dochasac (591582) | more than 2 years ago | (#39135239)

Markus Kayser's solar sintering 3D printer [greenprophet.com] shows what is possible when you use ingenuity, technology and two abundant desert resources, sunlight and sand. Mr. Kayser says he is already working with Kohler on the possibility of using solar powered, sand fed replicators like his to make sanitation products such as toilets and plumbing.

Crucial (5, Insightful)

BoydWaters (257352) | more than 2 years ago | (#39133997)

Anyone who thinks this is a silly idea needs to spend two weeks in a city without modern plumbing.

Re:Crucial (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39134857)

Anyone who thinks this is a silly idea needs to spend two weeks in a city without modern plumbing.

Amsterdam is still nice [wordpress.com]

Re:Crucial (2)

EasyTarget (43516) | more than 2 years ago | (#39134943)

Yep.. they go out on Friday and are collected on Sunday, dead handy for the Friday night party crowd and much better than having desperate and partied-out people pissing in doorways.

Behind those doorways is a city with sufficient toilets backed by a infrastructure that, although aging, still works and is being improved [groupa.nl].

Must be missing something... (4, Insightful)

GumphMaster (772693) | more than 2 years ago | (#39134027)

Why reinvent the toilet when we already have perfectly functional, no-energy (or very low energy) composting toilet [wikipedia.org] and urine diversion [wikipedia.org] options? What is it about these options that does not meet the criteria?

Re:Must be missing something... (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39134095)

Why reinvent the toilet when we already have perfectly functional, no-energy (or very low energy) composting toilet and urine diversion options? What is it about these options that does not meet the criteria?

Somebody influential won't make a profit.

Re:Must be missing something... (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39134117)

You mean somebody effluential won't make a profit

Re:Must be missing something... (1)

dmomo (256005) | more than 2 years ago | (#39134265)

Who influential stands to make a profit from this? Not Bill Gates. So who are you talking about?

Re:Must be missing something... (1)

EasyTarget (43516) | more than 2 years ago | (#39134963)

Who influential stands to make a profit from this? Not Bill Gates. So who are you talking about?

Err.. well, definately "Not Bill Gates".. He made his money through software monopolies not sewage monopolies, so I guess they are talking about, you know, other people.. ie the ones who want to maintain their monopoly on the provision of sewage infrastructure. In this case Bill is behaving as a good guy and deserves credit.

Re:Must be missing something... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39134121)

So what do you do with that kind of toilet when you have serious diarrhea? How do you clean without water and a brush?

Re:Must be missing something... (1)

wvmarle (1070040) | more than 2 years ago | (#39134537)

The same way they do this now. With the difference that then they have something like a toilet to begin with.

Re:Must be missing something... (1)

CoopersPale (444672) | more than 2 years ago | (#39134151)

Was going to say the same thing - these don't sound like viable options for low tech third world situations.

Re:Must be missing something... (1)

OrigamiMarie (1501451) | more than 2 years ago | (#39134319)

High population density. I doubt that standard composting toilets continue to be sufficient when your population moves into 4-story, close together apartment buildings.

Re:Must be missing something... (1)

wvmarle (1070040) | more than 2 years ago | (#39134515)

FTA:

Come up with a toilet alternative that doesn't need plumbed water, a sewer system, electricity and will cost 5 cents or less per user daily to build and maintain.

This are the requirements, and the toilet you mention seems to fulfill them easily. The main objection may be capacity, as composting is a fairly slow process so you need a relatively large volume, especially when there are many users using it for their daily needs, and not a remote-highway-stop type of service.

Actually solutions mentioned in the article include microwaves, mechanical rollers and other powered parts. This needs electricity. The cost is also going to be an issue, though the microwaves produce CO and H2 and the system may be able to produce its own energy that way.

The proposed solutions also sound really high-tech at first glance. Not suitable for the application, imho. It should be easy to maintain, and low-maintenance, with easy to obtain parts.

Re:Must be missing something... (1)

gl4ss (559668) | more than 2 years ago | (#39134941)

5cents or less is easy - if you don't count any cost for work hours for maintaining. if you do then moving the shit around becomes pretty expensive.

actually the real problems rise probably from it having to be practical in a high density african ghetto.

I for one hate wood wc's.

Re:Must be missing something... (1)

wvmarle (1070040) | more than 2 years ago | (#39135275)

It specifically states "to build and maintain" so maintenance is included. Disposal of the waste presumably not, though.

Useless (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39134077)

Current toilets are just fine. This money would be better spent on toilet training those barbarians that don't know how to use one.

Brace yourself (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39134081)

Toilet jokes are coming

Apple got there first (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39134105)

In a joint project with Foxconn Apple already reinvented the toilet.

http://slashdot.org/story/12/02/15/184244/foxconns-other-dirty-secret-the-worlds-largest-internship-program

squat don't sit (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39134111)

how about we tell the truth about root causes of cancer. if you sit, alot of shit gets backed up

The hate (5, Insightful)

santax (1541065) | more than 2 years ago | (#39134159)

Long time linux lover here. Long time hater of MS policy and business practice. However, this man, who was once the richest man in the world has in the latest 15 years of his life great things for humanity. Things that actually make a different for people. I don't care how much you hate windows or Gates as the former president of that company, but surely you can't be against him spending so much of his fortune (and sure, he has enough money to have a comfortable life even with doing this) to make lifes better... Give the guy a break on this part. He has spend a fortune on his foundation and did so with many great projects that actually got shit done. (no phun intended)

The shills Re:The hate (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39134207)

Long time Cheerios lover here. Long time hater of Captain Crunch Cereal policy and business practice. However, this man, who was once the richest man in the world has in the latest 15 years of his life great things for humanity. Things that actually make a different for people. I don't care how much you hate Captain Crunch cereal or Captain Crunch as the former president of that company, but surely you can't be against him spending so much of his fortune (and sure, he has enough money to have a comfortable life even with doing this) to make lifes better... Give the guy a break on this part. He has spend a fortune on his foundation and did so with many great projects that actually got shit done. (no phun intended)

See how easily anyone can post bullshit? Drop the act, you probably don't use Linux, and you're willingly able to post this dramatic post in favor of "this man". Next will you tell us you're a member of the lollipop guild?

""No, you're wrong. Microsoft's "evil", insofar as I'm concerned, has to do with the companies and technologies that never had a chance because someone at Microsoft decided to steal it, buy it or just destroy it. That someone was often William H. Gates. The Personal Computer Revolution was largely stolen from us, because we all got forced to go the Redmond way. There's no point in going over Microsoft's other evils, such as the fact that it is a Grade-A government-certified illegally acquired-and-maintained monopoly. Now, monopolies aren't necessarily evil or illegal ⦠but Microsoft's is, on both counts. And don't try to excuse them as just being, you know, basically decent people who make honest mistakes. Microsoft is a criminal organization that has maintained a consistent pattern of unlawful activity throughout its entire corporate existence. And so far as Apple and Google are concerned, it sounds like you're excusing Microsoft's bad behavior because well, you know, Apple and Google might be as bad, but we don't know yet so let's give Microsoft a pass for now. Look nobody knows whether we are alone in the Universe ⦠but the question of whether that company is good or evil has been answered. They were taken to court over the issue of their monopoly status and lost. So yeah, Microsoft is evil, and the pattern of general nastiness persists to this very day. Why do you think the European Union is giving them such a hard time? Have you been following the OOXML fiasco, with Microsoft attempting to buy their way into a standard? No, I suggest you keep Googling Microsoft: it's obvious you've not been around long enough to have experienced their evil firsthand. I've been in the software business since before Microsoft was a gleam in Bill Gates' eye, and I've seen the damage he and his brainchild have caused. Bill can give all his money to charity if he wants, but there's no Undo button for what he's done.""
-- http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=390138&cid=21711174 [slashdot.org]

Re:The shills Re:The hate (2)

santax (1541065) | more than 2 years ago | (#39134231)

I don't think you understand me. Not trying to speak up for MS at all. Speaking up for a guy who changed lives. On the pc - for the worst. In Afrika - for the better. And next time, show some balls. Use your account.

Re:The hate (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39134315)

Multiple issues with this:
1) motivation: his wife is doing this to improve his image. So, he is simply following what other industrial criminals did. So, no, I am not that impressed.
2) a number of his attempts are insane. For starters, he wants to wipe out a species of mosquitoes. Yet, it is finally becoming apparent in science that virus give us our leaps in evolution. As such, mosquitoes transmit these virus.; wanting to stop hurricanes in the atlantic due to economic issues. All the while he ignores that the hurricanes serves as a pump to bring up nutrients from much lower in the oceans to the surface.
3) for all his spending of money, it has been tied back to MS.
4) he is a huge drain on the western economy and IP. even now he is looking to take american nuke tech and transfer to china.
5) the man misses doing any real things: building up space infrastructure; building up maglev or other high-speed rail in America.

Sorry, but not impressed by him.

Re:The hate (4, Insightful)

billcopc (196330) | more than 2 years ago | (#39134565)

If I'm reading you correctly, you'd rather see him widen the wealth gap between the U.S. hyper-rich and the 3rd world ? The funny thing about wealth gaps is they tend to trigger acts of extreme violence to rebalance the equation. It is FAR more beneficial to humankind, to help the 3rd world deal with some of their most basic problems. Who's to say, maybe in 30 years from now, an African that was given access to education, sanitation and employment might discover a (realistic) cure for AIDS.

I'd go as far as saying that there is not much hope left for the U.S., because its control structures are far beyond repair, its human capital bottlenecked by the very pursuit of wealth. Throwing more money into a broken hyperpower only makes the rich richer. Throwing money into a 3rd world nation has the potential to bring sweeping changes.

Ultimately, it's about inching toward a unified world view. To think or act otherwise is notihng more than racism and elitism.

Re:The hate (1)

maroberts (15852) | more than 2 years ago | (#39134733)

Multiple issues with this:
1) motivation: his wife is doing this to improve his image. So, he is simply following what other industrial criminals did. So, no, I am not that impressed.
2) a number of his attempts are insane. For starters, he wants to wipe out a species of mosquitoes. Yet, it is finally becoming apparent in science that virus give us our leaps in evolution. As such, mosquitoes transmit these virus.; wanting to stop hurricanes in the atlantic due to economic issues. All the while he ignores that the hurricanes serves as a pump to bring up nutrients from much lower in the oceans to the surface.
3) for all his spending of money, it has been tied back to MS.
4) he is a huge drain on the western economy and IP. even now he is looking to take american nuke tech and transfer to china.
5) the man misses doing any real things: building up space infrastructure; building up maglev or other high-speed rail in America.
Sorry, but not impressed by him.

I'm not Bills biggest fan, but I am impressed by his projects. With respect to
1) Even Scrooge was only converted late in life
2) mosquitoes are the worlds biggest people killer. Obviously some approaches to solving the problem have issues. Malaria has been around for ages and all it seems to have given some people is sickle cells
3) his money has to come from somewhere
4) Bill was not really the patent troll that Microsoft seems to becoming. I don't think that Microsoft was really active in the patents field whilst he was in charge.
5) is more Paul Allens field, so maybe he's ensuring that between the two of them they give wide coverage. All the high tech projects do not really benefit the worlds poor, and can be funded in other ways, so why should he do it.

always making... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39134233)

...money from shit.

Bill should focus on family planning (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39134239)

The flush toilet has been ubiquitous amongst white people for at least 100 years, but somehow these repulsive, ignorant brown people haven't even been able to come up with an outhouse. I read that in Haiti, after the quake, Canadian soldiers were digging latrines for the indigent locals because they couldn't be bothered to do that themselves. Honestly, what type of person can't dig a latrine? It's not like they had anything better to do.

I've also read that Mexican farm workers often do their business in the field, rather than returning to the washroom.

These people are never going to change, no matter how much Bill wastes on them. His money would be better spent having these animals sterilized so we can be rid of the problems they cause once and for all someday.

The frictionless toilet bowl... (1)

Narcocide (102829) | more than 2 years ago | (#39134269)

... please Uncle Bill, hear our desperate plea. Save us from the brown streaks.

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Does It Clean Your Asshole? (4, Interesting)

Greyfox (87712) | more than 2 years ago | (#39134295)

I've been pondering this recently. Here in the USA we tend to feel pretty holier-than-though, but for the most part we have pretty dirty assholes. I mean, poo touched that and we just wipe it off with some paper. If poo touched your hand, would you be content to wipe it off with paper? So why do we tolerate it with our assholes?

I'd love to see some demographics on countries sorted by asshole cleanliness. I'm guessing that just like education and health care, the USA would be solidly in the middle of the pack. I suspect that Japan probably would have the most-clean assholes in the world, just based on their high end toilet technology. I'm not sure I want to speculate on the dirty end of the scale so as not to risk diplomatic incident.

Re:Does It Clean Your Asshole? (0, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39134459)

How is the parent comment anything but a mean-spirited attack on Americans? it is certainly off-topic and should be moderated as such. They use toilet paper in Japan, too. In fact, Japan is so "advanced" that they sometimes don't supply any toilet paper at all in their bathroom stalls.

Re:Does It Clean Your Asshole? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39134605)

its funny. laugh.

Re:Does It Clean Your Asshole? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39134585)

If poo touched your hand, would you be content to wipe it off with paper? So why do we tolerate it with our assholes?

Perhaps it is because you tend to not pick up food with your asshole and then put it in your mouth, or (and more likely imho) because we can't smell it.

Re:Does It Clean Your Asshole? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39134587)

I feel that the fact that I don't eat with my asshole or pick things up with my asshole makes a considerable difference in terms of how clean I need my hands and my asshole to be.

Re:Does It Clean Your Asshole? (3, Interesting)

donscarletti (569232) | more than 2 years ago | (#39134749)

I recommend the arse cleaning hoses found in Malaysia. They don't have the size or expense of a seperate bidet and they're not resident in the unhygenic toilet pot like Japanese integrated bidets. You just lift it off its hook on the wall, point the spray nozzle at your butthole, twist the tap and bam, no more shit on your o-ring. But either way, the European bidet has existed for a century now, there's always been that option at home, the Malaysian hose is the only option small, cheap and simple enough for institutional toilets.

Re:Does It Clean Your Asshole? (1)

PolygamousRanchKid (1290638) | more than 2 years ago | (#39134795)

I'd love to see some demographics on countries sorted by asshole cleanliness.

Google for the magazine "Viz and "The Bottom Inspectors" . . . the Office of Bottom Inspectors are responsible for this in the UK:

if your bottom is pimpled
or flabby and dimpled
if your cleft hair is not winnet free
if inadequate wiping
has caused gusset striping
then your bottom belongs to me
your bottom belongs to me

Re:Does It Clean Your Asshole? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39135279)

You don't need Japanese high tech to adequately clean your ass. In many civilized countries we have this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bidet [wikipedia.org]. Honestly, I don't understand why there are some countries where bidets are not standard. Also, a separate hose (like a shower hose) is a good alternative if there's not enough space.

Re:Does It Clean Your Asshole? (2)

exa (27197) | more than 2 years ago | (#39135741)

Dude, you have a funny way of putting this hygiene problem so I'll answer :) This happens to be a problem that I've thought about sporadically!

In our country, Turkey, we use both toilet paper and water to clean our assholes. Because traditionally, in the ala turca toilet they used water. So we ended up adding a small water pipe to the ala franca closet.

But I have never seen a Japanese toilet. Is it possible that they use a water jet, and then a robotic asshole cleaning wipe with nanotech disinfectants, a laser to kill germs, and then a warm air jet which dries the said area, with complimentary cream on demand?

Re:Does It Clean Your Asshole? (3, Funny)

ChinggisK (1133009) | more than 2 years ago | (#39135995)

Bah, you think the RIAA is bad, just you wait until Big Toilet Paper has its business model threatened by modern technology...

How about fresh clean water instead?? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39134355)

How about working on infrastructure to get plenty of fresh clean water to these people? Perhaps enough water so they could grow more crops too?

I love Bill Gates (1)

Zoxed (676559) | more than 2 years ago | (#39134357)

Hey, Slashdot poster: I love Bill Gates: I just wish people would stop taking the piss out of him.

This is highly overrated (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39134479)

Look, we can separate this into 2 different camps: developed vs. undeveloped.
In the developed world, we have plumbing throughout, so the flush sends it to a central area. Now, how useful is that? 2 words: Joules Biotech. They are using genetically modified cyanobacteria, to kick out ethanol and diesel fuel. So, why is this special? Because this uses our sewage as feedstock. IOW, it turns crap into fuel. OTOH, the ideas being pushed here, require loads of energy to try and get rid of crap.

Then you have the undeveloped world. Basically, we are talking, no plumbing. So, what matters most to them? Soap and a water bowl. Yes. For the vast majority of the world, they use their left hand to wipe their ass(which is why you do not use your left hand in nearly all parts of the world). We could help the undeveloped world by simply getting them resources such as soap to kill the bacteria that are on their hands, esp. the left one. For those of you that think that this is funny, keep in mind that the single highest killer of babies in 3rd world nations is diarrhea. Much of that is from the parents or siblings having dirty hands.

Re:This is highly overrated (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39134685)

Look, we can separate this into 2 different camps: developed vs. undeveloped.

Developed world; pumps the water out of aquifers and rivers. Shits, dumps water and shit somewhere distant after treating. Aquifers and rivers dry up (consider the Colarado River)

Undeveloped world; doesn't pump water out of aquifers and rivers but rather shits in them. Aquifers and Rivers poluted.

I suggest we have 2 unsuccessful models. And we have to be careful not to confuse familiar with effective.

Tree Bog (5, Interesting)

pfafrich (647460) | more than 2 years ago | (#39134599)

Best and simpest idea for a toilet I've seen is the tree bog. Its a raised platform over an enclosure space fenced off with chicken wire. Around the bog you plant willow or other greedy trees which rapidly consume the nutrients, effectively turning the poo into biomass. Aerobic decomposition has advantages over anaerobic decomposition and there is no smell if you use a layer of sawdust. The whole thing requires no maintenance as the poo decomposes very quickly. Not good for urban situations but ideal in rural environments.

Bill Gates is way better than Steve Jobs (-1, Offtopic)

bigsexyjoe (581721) | more than 2 years ago | (#39134779)

Bill Gates actually spends his money on humanitarian things while the "enlightened" Steve Jobs was making iPhones in sweat shops. It is a real shame that Apple is doing so well now.

Re:Bill Gates is way better than Steve Jobs (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39134845)

Steve Jobs is dead. Kind of hard to retire and help people when he's dead.

Who knows what he would have done if he had lived longer, though. My personal belief is that he wouldn't have done as much as Gates though because Gates is the man at charity.

Regardless, parent is a troll.

Re:Bill Gates is way better than Steve Jobs (1)

jones_supa (887896) | more than 2 years ago | (#39135117)

I duckduckgo'd the subject a bit and it appears that Tim Cook has set a mini philanthropy program where if an Apple employee donates something to a non-profit organization, Apple pays the bill [nbcbayarea.com]. :)

Re:Bill Gates is way better than Steve Jobs (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39135379)

Bill Gates actually spends his money on humanitarian things while the "enlightened" Steve Jobs was making iPhones in sweat shops. It is a real shame that Apple is doing so well now.

Just like Nobel: he made his money make ammunition for war and death, but as he got older was worried about his reputation so he created the various Nobel Prizes. However the cash that you get is, to a certain extent, blood money. And the 'evil' things done to create it have been forgotten.

Similarly Bill Gates is trying to rehabilitate his reputation by taking the money made by sometimes ruthless business practices (and illegal) and "suddenly" becoming a 'good' person.

I don't deny that he and his wife (!) are doing good things, and have no idea what is ultimate motive/s is/are, but given the thirty years of pain he's brought on the world via his computer system, I'd say he'd barely break even at the end of all of this. People seem to have forgotten the "dark" side of Bill Gates in recent years for some reason.

Salt Water? (2)

Rie Beam (632299) | more than 2 years ago | (#39135007)

The whole idea behind these toilets is that water is scarce and the region is poor -- that's only half-true. If you want to get down to serious, cheap answers, fund plumbing of salt water in from the ocean -- it won't be useful for drinking without some prior preparation, but the toilets, if properly made, need not be an advanced technology to function. Plus if one goes through the trouble of piping in sea water, perhaps it would open up more inland areas to the possibility of desalination plants? The demand would be limited to simply drinking water and bathing, since the toilets would be "first priority" and not need to have a constant source of fresh water like the former two. The only issue I could really see here is a requirement for redundant plumbing, in areas where having too much plumbing must seem like...well, a pipe dream.

Re:Salt Water? (3, Interesting)

Rie Beam (632299) | more than 2 years ago | (#39135011)

I did find this little gem.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_supply_in_Hong_Kong#Seawater_flushing [wikipedia.org]

"In 1960 legislation was introduced to promote seawater flushing on a larger scale, followed by substantial investments in a separate network although the system was unpopular due to the need to build a separate plumbing network in each house. Seawater initially was sold, but from 1972 on it was provided for free and the costs of the system were recovered through the drinking water tariff. In 1991, about 65% of Hong Kong's households used seawater for flushing. By 1999, this percentage had increased to 79%"

Re:Salt Water? (1)

Rie Beam (632299) | more than 2 years ago | (#39135027)

One advantage here is that, whereas in Hong Kong, an entire new network had to be developed under an older one, in areas with no substantial plumbing, the entire process could be done in one shot.

Re:Salt Water? (2)

dargaud (518470) | more than 2 years ago | (#39135645)

At the coastal antarctic station [gdargaud.net] where I worked we had a complex water pipe system between the dessalination plant and the station built as such: drinking water pipe inside a sea-water pipe going one way inside a sea-water pipe going the other way inside a thick layer of insulation.

The reason for the two-way seawater was to continuously recirculate it to avoid freezing. And since sea-water is less prone to freezing than clear water, it was also a bonus. It wasn't actually sea-water but the even saltier (and warmer) remains from the dessalination process. And it was used for flushing.

Bill And Melinda Gates Foundation (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39135363)

It's much more than fucked up software, they are straight up globalist psychopaths.

Read all about them if you dare.

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If you are going to skip out tl;dr style on these links, then at least read the muthafuckin link above.
Maybe a few of the "infowars links below" also-sorry for my attitude, but I am sick of repeating this shit,
and before you get off on flame broiling me, know this
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It's alright if you don't believe me 100% now, you will learn for yourself up close, soon enough.

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So then.... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39135403)

Microsoft continues to make shitty applications.

Folks, you gotta think outside the box here... (1)

FridayBob (619244) | more than 2 years ago | (#39135619)

What people really want is a toilet that shits for them! You know, to take all the strain out of the experience and make it a more relaxing affair. First the system would set you at ease and then... assist. For sure, it would make hemorrhoids a thing of the past.

Common Microsoft Fascination? (2)

sl4shd0rk (755837) | more than 2 years ago | (#39136185)

Years ago it was the iLoo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ILoo) I wonder what Microsoft's fascination is with crap?

don't laugh: toilets are important (2)

przemekklosowski (448666) | more than 2 years ago | (#39136213)

Some of my Scout parent friends are military doctors and they told me that better field latrines were a measurable factor in WWII. All armies had established procedures for setting them up, and the fastidius Germans did a solid job of it, if you pardon the pun---but the Americans added an additional step of covering the latrine box with a burlap sack as a fly barrier. The flies are a major disease vector, and as a result American troops were healthier and more combat ready.
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