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Slashdot Visits the Seattle Pinball Museum (Video)

Roblimo posted more than 2 years ago | from the ever-since-I-was-a-young-boy-I-played-the-silver-ball dept.

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People who hear about the Seattle Pinball Museum tend to say things like, "Seems like a must-visit destination in Seattle," and, "Why did no one tell me about this place!??!" Timothy Lord, Slashdot Editor and Video Host, agrees. Watch the video to see a huge grin on Timothy's face. And if you ever get to the Seattle Pinball Museum yourself, you'll probably have a smile on your face, too.

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Loved pinball (1)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 2 years ago | (#39186055)

Used to play one old machine in the college commons, racking up free games and could play for over an hour.

Oddly enough, it was the same machine Bill Budge [wikipedia.org] based Raster Blaster on.

Barack Hussein Obama (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39186253)

Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure.

Re:Barack Hussein Obama (1, Informative)

kdawson (3715) (1344097) | more than 2 years ago | (#39186947)

Why are you bringing up Obama's shortcommings here? This is news for nerds & stuff that maters.

I would like to take the time to say that I was the camera man for this fine piece of movie footage. Timothy & I were on somewhat of a date when we took this and got beer and had a lot of fun togeter. We ddint get drunk but had great feelings and display of admiration for each other to the point we got `looked at` -kind of an awkward feeling but there is still no tolerance for gays. So we should instead re elect Obama & petition him on whitehouse.gov for laws to make treatments for gays more fair for all of us. LGBT:Lesbian, Gay, By Sexual, and Tri Sexual.

MODERATORS!!! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39187163)

mod parent up. this NEEDS TO BE SEEN.

Re:Barack Hussein Obama (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39190625)

Don't you mean Lesbian, Ghey, Bisexual, and TRY-sexual?
 
What a dimwit...

Re:Loved pinball (1)

nolife (233813) | more than 2 years ago | (#39186721)

I could play Rollergames endlessly starting with one credit. http://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?gid=2006 [ipdb.org]

That was the only pinball machine that I was able to "flip" the score back through 0. It gave another credit when it passed the setpont the second time but the final score did not count as a high score. I eventually started getting as close as I could to flipping the score and then tilting out. You would get more overall credits doing that as a new high score gave multiple credits.

My favorites or at least the ones I played the most were Funhouse, Time Machine http://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=2565 [ipdb.org] and Terminator 2. Twilight zone and Adams Family seemed to be the most popular but I only played them if there was nothing else.

Re:Loved pinball (1)

TheGoodNamesWereGone (1844118) | more than 2 years ago | (#39190103)

Two places any pinball lover reading this should visit on the web: www.futurepinball.com/ and http://www.randydavis.com/vp/intro.htm [randydavis.com] . Future Pinball is easier to set up and use, though VP offers more tables. You can also build your own if you're so inclined in either one. Pretty neat stuff!

better link http://www.vpforums.org/ (1)

Joe_Dragon (2206452) | more than 2 years ago | (#39193835)

http://www.vpforums.org/ [vpforums.org] VP and pinmame are both open source

Re:Loved pinball (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39194111)

lots of great content on my site:

http://www.pacificnorthwestpinball.com

including two large links pages for pinball and video games, location(s) of same included where relevant.

amigaboy

Stuff that matters (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39186059)

Timothy Lord, Slashdot Editor and Video Host visits museum. News for nerds, stuff that matters...

Gorgar (2)

tedgyz (515156) | more than 2 years ago | (#39186087)

I can't believe they showed Gorgar [ipdb.org] . I still remember playing that for the first time back in the 80's. It was the first game I can remember that "talked". Certain hits played a ghoulish voice.

Re:Gorgar (3, Interesting)

LMacG (118321) | more than 2 years ago | (#39186489)

I have a Gorgar. He knows seven words, You Me Beat Got Hurt Gorgar Speaks.

I even got a Gorgar inspired tattoo - www.flickr.com/photos/larrymac/1593723048/

Re:Gorgar (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39208249)

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Re:Gorgar (2)

filthpickle (1199927) | more than 2 years ago | (#39186989)

Gorgar was just before my time....my mother probably wouldn't have let me play it if she had seen it anyway....Sinistar I remember however. Anyhow, this was immensely entertaining to me when I first saw it.

(If you have never heard of Gorgar either, this is worth listening to....it is so completely ridiculous to hear now)

At the very least listen to the 20 seconds starting around 1:57. I am talking about the magic that can only be created by a goddamn monster that speaks!

Link: Hear. Me. Gorgar. Speak. [youtube.com]

This shit is memeworthy ridiculous.

In Washington, DC (1)

Joehonkie (665142) | more than 2 years ago | (#39186089)

We have on in Georgetown in DC in a mall, but it's kind of small and unimpressive.

Re:In Washington, DC (2)

Joehonkie (665142) | more than 2 years ago | (#39186145)

Er, apparently it's been moved to Baltimore as noted below.

Ever since I was a young boy, (2)

Kenja (541830) | more than 2 years ago | (#39186099)

I've played the silver ball.
From Soho down to Brighton,
I must have played them all.
But I ain't seen nothing like him
In any amusement hall.
That deaf, dumb and blind kid
Sure plays a mean pinball!


I assume you all broke out into song. Or did you forget your Doc Martens?

Re:Ever since I was a young boy, (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39187199)

Talk about Grandpa music.

Re:Ever since I was a young boy, (1)

SuperTechnoNerd (964528) | more than 2 years ago | (#39188303)

Watch it now! You little whipper snapper!

Re:Ever since I was a young boy, (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39193489)

I've played the silver ball.
From Sodo up to Belltown,

I must have played them all.
But I ain't seen nothing like him
In any amusement hall.
That deaf, dumb and blind kid
Sure plays a mean pinball!
 

Fixed that for you :)

The first question should be... (2)

abigsmurf (919188) | more than 2 years ago | (#39186109)

Do they have The Addams Family?

One trick these pinball museums seem to miss is making them actual museums rather than just freeplay arcades, I'd love for them to have more informative exhibits, maybe a glass fronted workshop with someone restoring and repairing machines, details about have various features work (bumpers, dot matrix displays etc).

Re:The first question should be... (4, Informative)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 2 years ago | (#39186387)

Do they have The Addams Family?

One trick these pinball museums seem to miss is making them actual museums rather than just freeplay arcades, I'd love for them to have more informative exhibits, maybe a glass fronted workshop with someone restoring and repairing machines, details about have various features work (bumpers, dot matrix displays etc).

Got a tour of Bally, back when a friend worked there. Pretty neat to see these things being assembled - wires everywere! Must have been a blast to design them.

I actually discovered my love of pinball after years of playing video games. There's really something to be said for controlling and following a physical object on the board, rather than a load of pixels moving around.

Re:The first question should be... (2)

abigsmurf (919188) | more than 2 years ago | (#39186581)

It's just a shame that the Pinball makers (or possibly arcade owners) got greedy and they started designing pinball machines to get through as much cash as possible. Multiple ramps aiming near straight down between the flippers, wide gutters, non-existent ball saved indicators. A play session that lasts less than a couple of minutes isn't fun.

I'd be interested to try out Stern Pinball machines. For one, it's a worthy cause to support but also their table designs are pretty neat (even if they use a small selection of base layouts when designing them).

Re:The first question should be... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39189269)

I can promise you that Stern was a failure, and games in the 90s and early 2000s actually paid attention to player wishes. Stern now throws out the same layout with a new license every 6 months. Their games are downright terrible. Wait for Jersey Jack to get his show on the road.

Re:The first question should be... (1)

dogbowl (75870) | more than 2 years ago | (#39189761)

The recent (the 2000's) Stern titles aren't that great. (Although the word is that some of their newer titles are actually pretty good)

The pinballs that could be considered the "golden age" seems to be the ones you are disparaging. Anything Bally/Williams from the 90's is now highly sought after by both the collectors and the players (which I guess could be the same)

Re:The first question should be... (1)

abigsmurf (919188) | more than 2 years ago | (#39191689)

It was probably around 2000 when I noticed that pinball designs were starting to make a noticeable effort to try and keep playtime short (I remembering Revenge from Mars annoying me but that had the contributing factor of it being a short table) and arcades starting to charge £1 a go made it even worse (when I first started playing it was 30p a go).

Re:The first question should be... (1)

I_am_Jack (1116205) | more than 2 years ago | (#39187051)

If they don't, Stellar Pizza [stellarpizza.com] (which is about a 15 minute drive south of the museum) does. Tacoma has Dorky's Bar.

go to the las vegas pinball hall of fame (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39187145)

las vegas pinball hall of fame has a lot of games old and new.

Re:The first question should be... (1)

PatPending (953482) | more than 2 years ago | (#39188915)

My first question is: do they have spare parts?

Seriously, with so many electro-mechanical parts, where do they get spares from?

I remember taking an old-school machine apart--it was surprising to discover that just about everything was attached to the top sheet of wood (i.e.., underneath the playable surface)--the rest of "the box" was practically void of parts. (Ditto for the upright (score) part also.)

Re:The first question should be... (1)

HereIAmJH (1319621) | more than 2 years ago | (#39193823)

My first question is: do they have spare parts?

Seriously, with so many electro-mechanical parts, where do they get spares from?

Many of the parts are interchangeable and are still being manufactured because they weren't specific to the original manufacturer. I have a whole box full of spare parts that I got from Marco Specialties [marcospec.com] . New coils, flipper rebuild kits, ring kits, and a box of every size light bulb in all my machines.

Where things get difficult are with machine specific parts. Artwork, playfield toys and plastics, ramps, etc. I can easily find mechanical parts for my 1980 machine. My 1991 machine has plastic ramps that are outrageously expensive if you can find them. Both machines are Williams. And forget about getting a replacement playfield for my Space Invaders pinball that isn't a mylar print. (mylar changes the play characteristics of the game)

National Pinball Museum (1)

Verdatum (1257828) | more than 2 years ago | (#39186115)

I'm curious if anyone knows how it compares to the National Pinball Museum, recently reopened in Baltimore, MD.

Re:National Pinball Museum (3, Informative)

ZipR (584654) | more than 2 years ago | (#39186233)

I haven't been (yet), but their site is here: http://www.nationalpinballmuseum.org/ [nationalpi...museum.org]

Re:National Pinball Museum (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39187453)

blocked by websense. Category: Games.

guess I can't use my lunch break to plan a cubscout fieldtrip... yeah, that's it.

Re:National Pinball Museum (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39188247)

I grew up spending time at "Eight on the Break" arcade in the early eighties. It's still there and rocking!
http://thebreak.net/
They always had excellently serviced pinball. Way back then many of their cabinets had been retrofitted with headphone jacks, it was awesome.

Re:National Pinball Museum (4, Informative)

slyrat (1143997) | more than 2 years ago | (#39187193)

I'm curious if anyone knows how it compares to the National Pinball Museum, recently reopened in Baltimore, MD.

There seem to be a few places like this now. There is the one in las vegas: pinball hall of fame [pinballmuseum.org]
The one in Baltimore you mentioned: national pinball museum [nationalpi...museum.org]
One I just found in California [pacificpinball.org]
The one the article mentions in Seattle [facebook.com]
another I found in NJ [silverballmuseum.com]
An article about several of these [nytimes.com] opening up around the country.
And if you are interested in playing I found a place in St. Louis CP Pinball [cppinball.com] .
Any other places people have found that are worth noting here?

Re:National Pinball Museum (1)

Verdatum (1257828) | more than 2 years ago | (#39187427)

Nicely done, fellow Slashdotter! Much appreciated :)

Re:National Pinball Museum (1)

aaronrp (773980) | more than 2 years ago | (#39187465)

I've been to the one in Alameda, CA. http://pacificpinball.org/ [pacificpinball.org] It's a free play museum, but also has some information on the machines giving the history of them in context. It's not something I'd go back to every week, but it was fun to do once.

Re:National Pinball Museum (1)

tedgyz (515156) | more than 2 years ago | (#39188137)

Here in New Hampshire we have the Funspot arcade [funspotnh.com] . While broader in scope than just pinball, they have a nice pinball section along with well maintained classic video games. They claim to be the largest arcade in the world. It is essentially an interactive museum.

Re:National Pinball Museum (1)

intangible (252848) | more than 2 years ago | (#39188719)

We have one here in Las Vegas called "The Pinball Hall of Fame" that is a beloved destination by all: http://www.pinballmuseum.org/ [pinballmuseum.org]

Definitely check it out sometime :)

Re:National Pinball Museum (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39189265)

Pittsburgh has two worth checking out:

PAPA [papa.org] , the site of the World Pinball Championships which is only rarely open to the public, and Pinball Perfection [angelfire.com] , which is only open when the weather is warm but has an astonishing number of pinball and entertainment machines. When I was a grad student, I used to play at Pinball Perfection every weekend. :)

OK, I guess (1)

Quiet_Desperation (858215) | more than 2 years ago | (#39186125)

I think I just don't have the nostalgia gene.

Pinballz (1)

dloflin (110712) | more than 2 years ago | (#39186149)

Austin, TX has "Pinballz Arcade" - 13,000 sq ft of pinball machines old and new. They don't do the $10 entrance & unlimited games model - but a lot of the games are only a quarter. Oh and it's BYOB.

Re:Pinballz (1)

stoolpigeon (454276) | more than 2 years ago | (#39186285)

bring your own ball?

Re:Pinballz (1)

Sponge Bath (413667) | more than 2 years ago | (#39186855)

Bring your own booze, they don't have a liquor license. It's also heavily family oriented so lots of screaming kids. They have a great collection of pinball games, but the classic video games are kind of lacking and in really poor condition. They should take out the crap stuffed animal crane type games to make room for some more classic video.

Re:Pinballz (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39200205)

I was going to say, pinballzarcade.com has 120 pinball machines compared to the 40 in Seattle. It's a pretty amazing place. And if you want to avoid kids they do have adults-only times in the evenings. Austin also has the awesome arcadeufo.com for with the latest fighting games (Blazblue, KoFXIII, etc), Rhythm games, and my favorite DoDonPachi Daifukkatsu.

Ever since I was a young boy, I played that silver (1)

Fritz T. Coyote (1087965) | more than 2 years ago | (#39186157)

Pinball remains my favorite arcade game. There is just so much satisfaction in dealing with the elegant and complex physics engine that manages the movement of that silver ball, coupled with really excellent, lag-free, glitch-free graphics. Hard to believe that the physics have been in place since the vacuum tube era, when relays and solenoids managed the logic and tracked the score.

Classics (2)

XxtraLarGe (551297) | more than 2 years ago | (#39186195)

I really liked pinball games like Gorgar & Pinbot, but my favorite of all time was Black Knight 2000 [youtube.com] . I haven't really cared for pinball games ever since most of them abandoned the plunger in favor of a trigger system.

Re:Classics (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39187117)

As much as I don't like the feel of a trigger system, most designers went to that as more of a longevity issue in addition to the gimmick factor. I've seen more machines broken by some douchebag that thinks they have MAD PLUNGER SKILLZ!!!! I do like the better control offered by the analog, though. It's a shame shatterglass-jerks have to ruin it for the rest of us.

Respect History.

Re:Classics (1)

Roblimo (357) | more than 2 years ago | (#39188529)

Yeah - Black Knight was good. Also Evel Knievel. Two of my faves.

Re:Classics (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39194467)

We had Addams Family at my college's student union back in 1989-1993. (Pomona College)
And then there was a Black Night 2000 machine up at Harvey Mudd College, 1/2 mile or so away.

Great times, and a lot of quarters...

Pinball is for fagets (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39186199)

Leering at smooth, shiny balls, pulling out a long, stiff knob and practically humping the machine as you tweak its weird side-nipples - wow, what a faget game that is.

Re:Pinball is for fagets (0)

filthpickle (1199927) | more than 2 years ago | (#39187155)

Maybe this really is trolling....but it is pretty funny trolling....

Computer Pinball (1)

khr (708262) | more than 2 years ago | (#39186315)

I never really played real pinball machines. Once or twice, but I've never been good enough at them (or arcade video games, for that matter) to get my money's worth from a quarter...

But I've long loved pinball games on computers... My favorite has got to be Night Mission.

Nowadays I mostly play one with a sea mission theme on the iPad, along with the Slayer one.

There's also... (3, Informative)

Howard Beale (92386) | more than 2 years ago | (#39186371)

the Silverball Museum in Asbury Park, NJ - http://silverballmuseum.com/ [silverballmuseum.com] Took my son up there for an overnight trip last year. He thought there would be more video games, but still had a good time.

Re:There's also... (1)

KatchooNJ (173554) | more than 2 years ago | (#39187803)

Ah! I just posted mentioning this place too. heh. Yeah, they had a handful of video games there, but not many. The best place in NJ was Richie Knucklez Arcade in Flemington, but I understand he recently closed the arcade and is now only doing sales, which is a bummer. He used to have the arcade open on Friday nights for $10 a head and you could play for hours. Great selection of all of the classics, too.

Not many places left in NJ to play (1)

sudnshok (136477) | more than 2 years ago | (#39189423)

Eight on the Break is pretty good. They usually have about 10 pins that rotate.
thebreak.net

Re:Not many places left in NJ to play (1)

KatchooNJ (173554) | more than 2 years ago | (#39197865)

Oh wow... been ages since I have been in Eight on the Break. Good info! Thanks! I might have to pop in next time I am in Dunellen.

Offtopic (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39186447)

Timothy Lord is such a great name.

Tim can always be Lord and Master.

Tim can always Lord it over people.

And, Tim can strike down upon thee with great vengance and furious anger, those who attempt to poison and destroy his brother, and you will know his name is The Lord when he lays his vengeance upon thee.

I reiterate, Timothy Lord is a great name.

Have one question. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39186545)

Okay gents, apologize for being OT but I'd like some advice. Most of the time around midday the office clears out and I can relax some. The co-workers all having a spot of tea and the like. So happens today I felt the urge to break wind since my cubicle mates are all out. Lo and behold I think I overdid it and probably shat myself. As a matter of fact I feel the seat of my pants sticking to my chair.

Now my co-workers are all starting to file back into the office from being away. What should I do? I don't have a spare set of trousers to take to the restroom. But I know I must be reeking by now. How can I sneak out and past my boss, who is now starting to make his way to my desk?

HELP!!!

Re:Have one question. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39186971)

If your lucky you're boss is faget. Fagets like shit otherwise they wouldn't stick there penises up in it. I hear that some types of fagets like to rub feces on there bodies and especially on there faces because it makes them hard. So maybe you're boss wont mind if you smell like shit. Its possible that the shit smell will make his pennis hard because hes a faget.

OXO (2)

Jakester2K (612607) | more than 2 years ago | (#39186637)

Despite less-than-pleasant memories of living with my stepfather, my fondest one is of playing the pinball machine he had in the house.

It was called OXO, and had a tic-tac-toe board as its main feature. The "object" of the game, of course, was to win ttt.

There was a button on the board centered between the angled bumpers just above the flippers which would light up the bottom center square, and the angled bumpers themselves, iirc, would switch what that button would put in the square - X or O.

Sometimes the ball would move so fast - going from one bumper, over the button, and hitting the other bumper - that the electronics would get a little confused and put both the X and the O into the square.

I must have played that thing for hours at a time in my Junior High days. I almost cried when he sold it prior to moving to a new home.

Definitely recommend these too (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39186679)

Silverball Museum in Ashbury Park, NJ
Pinball Hall of Fame in Las Vegas, NV

Place is OK (1)

JustNilt (984644) | more than 2 years ago | (#39186725)

I went once, not long ago. I'm of the opinion it's stretching the term "museum" to its breaking point. I wish they had more museum-like displays and the owner, when I asked, said they're working on funding. The place is well worth a visit for any pinball fan but don't expect too much "history" other than old machines.

And of Course... (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39186949)

The Pinball Hall Of Fame in Las Vegas.
250 to 300 machines from 1934 to Today.
All proceeds to charity. Donated over $500,000 Last year.
http://www.pinballmuseum.org/

more than 30 games? (2)

frovingslosh (582462) | more than 2 years ago | (#39187189)

It's always nice to hear about an arcade, and this is the first one I've heard of that actually gets tax payer money rather than having absurd tax stamps on each machine (as well as the operators paying normal income taxes). Too bad they did that by calling it an "art". Might as well call it a sport and get Seattle to build you a stadium. But more than 30 games just isn't all that impressive, I've been in larger arcades, and there are some truly fantastic and much larger collections out there.

I'm also rather disappointed by the $10 bucks to get in, play all you can approach. Doing that takes away from one of the key concepts of pinball, trying to win a free game. It would be like having slot machines on free play but with no payout, would get boring fast. OK, not quite that bad, but I'm certainly not going to go out of my way to see this the next time I'm in Seattle.

Re:more than 30 games? (1)

Jakester2K (612607) | more than 2 years ago | (#39189307)

I get it, but I bet they still have the "extra game" function enabled - the one that produces a real hard knock somewhere inside the cabinet....

There's a pinball hall in Zurich that's similar... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39187207)

Have a look at http://outlane.ch.
If you're in or near Zurich this is open twice a month but well worth a visit if you're around.

Asbury Park, NJ has a great Pinball Museum (2)

KatchooNJ (173554) | more than 2 years ago | (#39187221)

I was recently at a great pinball museum in Asbury Park, NJ. It was called the Silver Ball Museum and they had over 200 machines. Some of them went back to the 30s, I believe. The oldest one I tinkered on was from 1950, I think. It's wild to play the really old ones.

Someone above mentioned Gorgar. Amusingly, I ended up playing that one probably the most. It is an older table, but I still think it is a great one. :-) The Addams Family is also a classic... if you want to get a bit more modern. ;-)

btw... here is the link to the site for the place in Asbury Park... it is right near the Stone Pony, btw... http://silverballmuseum.com/ [silverballmuseum.com]

Something even more awesome there (1)

gr8_phk (621180) | more than 2 years ago | (#39187473)

If you get the chance, stop by Laser Reflections [laserreflections.com] .

Illegal in some places (3, Interesting)

SuperTechnoNerd (964528) | more than 2 years ago | (#39187969)

In the Mid Hudson Valley, New York ,in a town called Beacon this would be illegal. Just a few years ago a guy opened a shop very much like this. Three weeks after opening the police paid him a visit telling him that pinball machines and arcade games are against ordnance and illegal in the town of Beacon. He must shut his doors and pay a $1000 dollar fine for every day he was/is open. The owner had no idea of this ordnance and tried to appeal, and get the ordnance off the books with no luck. So he moved his place across the river to Newburg. Talk about stuck in the past..

Pinloose? (1)

KatchooNJ (173554) | more than 2 years ago | (#39188181)

Maybe Kevin Bacon can make a movie about this where he is a pinball wizard and he shows the town is it OK to play pinball and video games.

Re:Illegal in some places (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39189495)

Oh, we got trouble.....right here in Beacon City...and that starts with T, and that rhymes with P, and that stands for....Pinball? /Robert Preston would be ashamed

Re:Illegal in some places (1)

LMacG (118321) | more than 2 years ago | (#39189869)

Ordnance is explosives. An ordinance is a law. And what kind of a businessman opens any establishment without checking on local regulations and restrictions?

Re:Illegal in some places (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39230783)

In the Mid Hudson Valley, New York ,in a town called Beacon this would be illegal. Just a few years ago a guy opened a shop very much like this. Three weeks after opening the police paid him a visit telling him that pinball machines and arcade games are against ordnance and illegal in the town of Beacon. He must shut his doors and pay a $1000 dollar fine for every day he was/is open. The owner had no idea of this ordnance and tried to appeal, and get the ordnance off the books with no luck. So he moved his place across the river to Newburg. Talk about stuck in the past..

I've heard about this, but I believe the problem wouldn't have happened if he did the $10 admission with freeplay (or did he?). I believe the law was that by winning free games, or free balls it was considered gambling because there was a payout of sorts. Yes, that is some stuck in the past, and may be why the Seattle Pinball Museum charges admission instead.

Re:Illegal in some places (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39230817)

It's me, anonymous coward again, lol, I think that's a little harsh, didn't know I had to join up to avoid being slandered!

Anyhow, I commented on the illegal pinball play in NY above... I was going to add a comment to a previous poster that said freeplay pinball would get boring fast. I have a pinball game at home (Last Action Hero) and I can say that it has never gotten boring. it's a very challenging and fast playing machine, but I think all machines require a good deal of skill and luck. It does take away the fun of getting a "Match" for a free game, I miss that a little, but the game itself is so involved and so challenging that I never get tired of trying to beat my high score. It's all about the high score and bragging rights now.

Ho80 (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39188275)

BSD's acclaimed the 'coomunity'

Place to play around Boston (1)

ZlotyJelop (954615) | more than 2 years ago | (#39192683)

Flap Top Johnny's in Cambridge, close to M.I.T. http://www.flattopjohnnys.com/ [flattopjohnnys.com] Best pinball experience evahr.

Re:Place to play around Boston (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39193793)

In the Boston area, the best is Lanes and Games near Alewife T. 8 games in pristine condition. Not as beer-friendly as Flat Top, but damn good.

Re:Place to play around Boston (1)

slyrat (1143997) | more than 2 years ago | (#39207719)

In the Boston area, the best is Lanes and Games near Alewife T. 8 games in pristine condition. Not as beer-friendly as Flat Top, but damn good.

I agree, that place was great! It was also neat because of the candle pin bowling which I had never seen before.

Coming soon! (1)

tehcyder (746570) | more than 2 years ago | (#39196433)

I pay a visit to the world's second smallest biscuit museum. And have a cup of tea.

I'll be tweeting, facebooking, videoing and blogging about it next week, be sure not to miss it.
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