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Remastered Star Trek: the Next Generation Blu-ray a Huge Leap Forward

Soulskill posted more than 2 years ago | from the replace-your-dvd-collection-that-replaced-your-vhs-collection dept.

Television 470

MojoKid writes "There's been no new Star Trek TV series since Enterprise limped off screens in 2005, but the huge success of the 2009 Star Trek movie and the gradual growth of Blu-ray has caught CBS' attention (CBS acquired ownership of the Star Trek franchise in 2006). The broadcast company is preparing to release Star Trek: The Next Generation on Blu-ray with substantial improvements (article contains comparison image shots). The DVD boxed sets that exist today were created from the taped broadcasts that were shown in the early 90s. Rather than repackaging that material, CBS has gone back to the original film stock and started from scratch. The difference is enormous. CBS has released a preview Blu-ray titled Star Trek: The Next Generation — The Next Level with three updated episodes; the show's pilot (Encounter at Farpoint), Sins of the Father and The Inner Light."

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FUCK YES (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39191301)

might have to get a blu ray player for this

Re:FUCK YES (5, Funny)

WrongSizeGlass (838941) | more than 2 years ago | (#39191331)

might have to get a blu ray player for this

Going where no DVD has gone before?

torrents (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39191439)

Why would you have to buy a dumb DRM-laden playback device with your hard-earned money when you could download a 720p torrent, probably BEFORE it is released, for free? ;)

Re:torrents (1, Informative)

dbet (1607261) | more than 2 years ago | (#39191667)

First, Bluray is 1080p, not 720. Second, not all 1080p is the same. If you compress a 1080p movie into an H264 file, it will have visible compression artifacts that don't exist on the DVD.

Yes, for a lot of things, the compressed file is fine (especially for viewing on a laptop or tablet). But for a large TV, it's still not as good as the real thing, UNLESS you get a full uncompressed rip of the BluRay, which would be upwards of 5 GB per episode.

Re:torrents (1)

Jeremy Erwin (2054) | more than 2 years ago | (#39191671)

Because bluray is usually 1080p, not 720p?

Re:torrents (5, Insightful)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 2 years ago | (#39191775)

One reason to have hard-earned money is to buy things that entertain you... which also means more entertaining things will appear.

Money is a resource, not a score.

Re:FUCK YES (1)

danomac (1032160) | more than 2 years ago | (#39191567)

Sheldon certainly would be happy enough to buy a BD player to watch it.

Re:FUCK YES (4, Funny)

sconeu (64226) | more than 2 years ago | (#39191655)

Except that it has Wil Wheaton in it.

Re:FUCK YES (0)

PessimysticRaven (1864010) | more than 2 years ago | (#39191749)

One must always know their enemies. So sayeth Lord Cooper... And some crackpot called Sun Something-or-other..

Re:FUCK YES (3, Funny)

Sponge Bath (413667) | more than 2 years ago | (#39191765)

Family Guy TNG episode:

Wil Wheaton: [Still at the drive-thru] I want a hamburger, I want a cheeseburger, I want a hot dog-...
Patrick Stewart: [Patrick slams his head against the window] You'll get nothing and like it!

Re:FUCK YES (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39191889)

Aren't they best friends now?

Or a Blu-Ray drive (5, Informative)

MrEricSir (398214) | more than 2 years ago | (#39191693)

Just remember that if you have a Blu-Ray drive, you need to make sure your entire setup is HDCP compliant or it will downsample as a form of punishment. This is especially troublesome for your typical Slashdot reader who has a home-brewed unusual setup.

But the easiest solution I've found is to rip out the copy protection altogether. There's a (commercial) program for Windows called AnyDVD HD that automatically strips out copy protection from DVDs and Blu-Ray discs on the fly, within a few seconds of inserting the disc into your drive. The program isn't cheap, but this way you don't have to worry about copy protection getting in the way of playing the fucking disc you paid for.

Re:Or a Blu-Ray drive (5, Funny)

chromas (1085949) | more than 2 years ago | (#39191827)

The program isn't cheap

At least, until somebody strips out the copy protection...

Re:FUCK YES (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39191789)

If you know the storyline already, why pay for it again?

Here's an idea: try watching something new.

Re:FUCK YES (1)

K. S. Kyosuke (729550) | more than 2 years ago | (#39191815)

might have to get a blu ray player for this

This is Star Trek: The Next Generation, you'll need the red ray player.

Don't Buy It! (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39191309)

Riker shot first!

Re:Don't Buy It! (1)

snowgirl (978879) | more than 2 years ago | (#39191471)

Riker shot first!

Lieutenant Riker, or Commander Riker?

I know, same person at one point, but now it actually matters...

Re:Don't Buy It! (1)

dissy (172727) | more than 2 years ago | (#39191611)

Riker shot first!

Lieutenant Riker, or Commander Riker?
I know, same person at one point, but now it actually matters...

It was Commander Riker who shot first, but he blamed it on Lieutenant Riker who was taken away and put to death by electric chair (It was warp core powered. You can imagine the pain and mess that made!)

So everyone thinks Commander Riker is innocent, but oh yes, he will strike again.

Next time, it's Spot!!!

Re:Don't Buy It! (1)

modmans2ndcoming (929661) | more than 2 years ago | (#39191733)

You should have said "Thomas or Will?"

Re:Don't Buy It! (1)

snowgirl (978879) | more than 2 years ago | (#39191761)

You should have said "Thomas or Will?"

I knew Command Riker was "Will", but I thought Lieutenant Riker was "Tim", which I guess is short for "Thomas"... but basically, I would have, but I was too lazy to check that I would be right... I know, barely a moment on Wikipedia even, but seriously, there's an incredibly amount of lazy up in here...

Re:Don't Buy It! (5, Funny)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 2 years ago | (#39191797)

Riker shot first!

Oh, come on! It was self defense! Captain Picard clearly said "Fire at Will!"

I'll concede, though, that Commander Data is way too literal.

Close but no cigar for the moment... (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39191315)

TNG meh, only a few episodes are salvageable for modern viewing.
Now how about putting ST : DSN on blu-ray ? :-)

Re:Close but no cigar for the moment... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39191563)

DS9 Sucked! Voyager was far far better!

Re:Close but no cigar for the moment... (4, Funny)

Jeremy Erwin (2054) | more than 2 years ago | (#39191873)

Voyager: These are the voyages of the Flying Toilet Seat.

Re:Close but no cigar for the moment... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39191717)

I don't know. I just started watching the entire series. Back when it originally aired I think I gave up after season 3. Currently I'm on season 4 so they're new episodes to me.

I have to agree that the show is kind of "meh" at this point but the first season was pretty good. It's weird because I remember people saying the acting was terrible and such in the first season but compared to more modern stuff (Babylon 5, etc) it was pretty damn good.

Deep Space 9... Meh, I could never get into it. It's like Babylon 5 (which I also recently watched the entire series). B5 sucked balls and it never got better despite what the fans say. The story was interesting from the standpoint that it's one of the only series that had everything tied together from beginning to end. That doesn't make up from the rest of the show though, it sucked hard core.

Great (4, Funny)

vivek7006 (585218) | more than 2 years ago | (#39191345)

Now we can all enjoy counsellor Deanna Troi's tits in HD!!

Re:Great (5, Funny)

modmans2ndcoming (929661) | more than 2 years ago | (#39191745)

maybe there was some Camel Toe going on there too and we just couldn't tell on the shitty resolution.

Re:Great (2)

Sperbels (1008585) | more than 2 years ago | (#39191843)

Damn it. Now I'm going to have to buy them.

Re:Great (0)

Sponge Bath (413667) | more than 2 years ago | (#39191783)

On the down side, you also get HD Beverly Crusher.

Re:Great (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39191881)

I like her....very much indeed.
Nothing wrong with the doctor. In fact, I think she is hotter than Deanna.

Yeah... So... (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39191349)

3 'remastered' episodes of a 20 year old tv show... Big fucking deal.

Look i liked star trek. It was entertaining. But the special effects and visuals were never the draw there..

And hollywood wonders why they have trouble selling shit anymore... They haven't done anything new or orginal for two decades.

Re:Yeah... So... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39191393)

I'm genuinely curious, what did you find so entertaining? It is a bunch of funny dressed people in a room talking stupid shit, and they sound like the characters from Ivan Yefremov's Communist future sci-fi. Only difference was that unlike the writers for Star Trek, Yefremov actually did have some talent for writing.

Yefremov ... (5, Funny)

perpenso (1613749) | more than 2 years ago | (#39191559)

... Yefremov actually did have some talent for writing

I think his work was much better in the original Klingon. :-)

Re:Yeah... So... (3, Informative)

vivek7006 (585218) | more than 2 years ago | (#39191401)

3 'remastered' episodes of a 20 year old tv show... Big fucking deal.

Look i liked star trek. It was entertaining. But the special effects and visuals were never the draw there..

And hollywood wonders why they have trouble selling shit anymore... They haven't done anything new or orginal for two decades.

In all fairness, they are remastering all the episodes. Those 3 episodes are just for providing a preview of what to expect

Re:Yeah... So... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39191435)

I'd almost knee-jerk rebel against this kind of digital tomfoolery in the same vein as when the Star Wars prequels were Lucased back in '97, but it's just been nothing but a few effects scrubbing and updating - even TOS had the treatment and I can't even tell which is which anymore.

It's no big deal like fucking up years of established canon (jesus, Greedo went from rookie hunter mistake to worst fucking shot in history) and makes things a little less groan-worthy in some scenes (now, if we could do something about that god awful spandex, early season) and, as the link demonstrated with a few comparison shots, a lot of color balancing was done where it is sorely needed (please just read the article, already. hint, hint.)

Re:Yeah... So... (3, Insightful)

EvanED (569694) | more than 2 years ago | (#39191447)

The three episodes are a teaser; they're remastering the whole series. Season 1 in full is supposed to be released later this year, I think.

And while the visuals aren't the draw of the show, the DVD version really doesn't look very good a lot of places. I'm not even much of a video snob most of the time, and that was something I was a bit disappointed in years ago.

Assuming that they maintain the quality of the demo footage, I'm definitely looking forward to the Blu-Rays. I may or may not get the series as a whole, but there's a very good chance I'll pick up at least a couple seasons. 3-6? 4-6? We'll see. I'll want to check out a couple discs before I buy them first though.

Yawn (2)

schnikies79 (788746) | more than 2 years ago | (#39191351)

They have milked that franchise for too long. Try something new, for once.

Re:Yawn (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39191383)

This: They have milked that franchise for too long. Try something new, for once.

Should have been in reply to this: Now we can all enjoy counsellor Deanna Troi's tits in HD!!

Re:Yawn (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39191491)

Her ass was way nicer than her tits.

Substantial improvements? (4, Funny)

dbIII (701233) | more than 2 years ago | (#39191367)

Did they cut out the first two seasons? That's that easiest way to make a substantial improvement.

Re:Substantial improvements? (2)

SomePgmr (2021234) | more than 2 years ago | (#39191425)

Harsh, but true.

Re:Substantial improvements? (5, Funny)

l0ungeb0y (442022) | more than 2 years ago | (#39191501)

What? And leave out the bit where Data gets to use his anatomical completeness on a homosexual-looking Chief of Security who wants to get back in touch with her feminine side while infected with the tequila-virus from space?

Re:Substantial improvements? (1)

EvanED (569694) | more than 2 years ago | (#39191511)

Now now, it's really only season 1 that's pretty irredeemable. Season 2 had a few good episodes. "Measure of a Man" and "Q Who" are both actually really good; I also like "The Emissary" and "Peak Performance".

Re:Substantial improvements? (4, Funny)

TrekkieGod (627867) | more than 2 years ago | (#39191887)

Now now, it's really only season 1 that's pretty irredeemable.

Irredeemable? No. Season 1 has Datalore, and despite introducing the ridiculous "Data can't^W cannot use contractions" thing, it also has both Picard and Beverly telling Wesley to shut up.

Redemption.

Re:Substantial improvements? (1)

JoeMerchant (803320) | more than 2 years ago | (#39191587)

Did they cut out the first two seasons? That's that easiest way to make a substantial improvement.

You know you have the hots for Wesley and are just afraid you can't control yourself.... /jest

Re:Substantial improvements? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39191603)

Dr. Pulaski was the worst possible character imaginable. Her character felt like she was thawed out from a racist family in the mid-20th century, and dropped onboard the enterprise.

This was particularly painful in what was otherwise one of the best episodes of the show - The Measure of a Man [wikipedia.org] . I understand her character was supposed to be than way, and I know her past involvement in the show, but she was still painful to watch in every episode she made an appearance. She just didn't fit in with the rest of the show. Personally, I think that episode was one of the best of the entire franchise, all of them.

Of course, there were a handful of other good episodes in the first two seasons, but that is pretty bad when there are 48 episodes.

Bit late? (1)

Crookdotter (1297179) | more than 2 years ago | (#39191371)

But good. I've got the BR and it is good. The effects truly were amazing for the time, and now really! Worried about the cost per ep for something I've seen a million times, but really, if you like TNG at all, this is the way to see them.

Great joy and gratitude!

Re:Bit late? (1)

JoeMerchant (803320) | more than 2 years ago | (#39191607)

But good. I've got the BR and it is good. The effects truly were amazing for the time, and now really! Worried about the cost per ep for something I've seen a million times, but really, if you like TNG at all, this is the way to see them.

Great joy and gratitude!

My attention span has been shortening across the decades, I can almost enjoy a rerun as much listening to it on Netflix watch it now, occasionally glancing at the screen, as I can sitting infront of it like some lame vegetable that doesn't remember seeing this all before...

Zoom (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39191379)

There is a lot more detail in the 'remastered' images, mostly because the 'remastered' versions have about 2x zoom. Where there isn't a 2x zoom, there is a color re-balance, but not much improvement in resolution.

Re:Zoom (2)

ClintJCL (264898) | more than 2 years ago | (#39191481)

Huh? The zoom levels on the HTML that displayed the JPGs on the webpage have nothing to do with it - the bluray will be at 1080p the entire time. Always "zoomed", in your strange vernacular.

Re:Zoom (4, Informative)

Fluffeh (1273756) | more than 2 years ago | (#39191561)

I bought BSG (the recent version) on DVD but later found a BR pack containing everything on sale - so I decided to snag that. While I rarely buy something on BR that I already own, I must say the improvement in certain scenes was quite noticable. The "inside" scenes weren't really improved, but the difference in space was rather surprising. When I first watched them on DVD, I thought they were great, but when I saw them on the BR, I saw just how much difference it made. The stars in the background actually twinkled, and the overall darkness in space was much more apparent.

While I won't be rushing out to get everything on BR just because it looks this good in BSG, it was certainly a nice eye-opener - even with such a new series.

Re:Zoom (1)

peragrin (659227) | more than 2 years ago | (#39191865)

um I hate to tell you this but stars don't twinkle in space. That is atmospheric distortions from looking through hundreds of miles of nitrogen and oxygen, and various particulate matter moving around.

Stars as sen from a space ship don't blink unless they are going boom. er BIG Boom.

Hmm (1)

Lillesvin (797939) | more than 2 years ago | (#39191395)

I'm currently watching the remastered version of TOS, and while it's pretty, it sort of detracts from the old-school feel that the original TOS had --- yes, "the original The Original Series". I don't mind them adjusting the colors a little, but adding and altering effects is too much in my book.

Re:Hmm (2)

GreatDrok (684119) | more than 2 years ago | (#39191455)

The remastered TOS Blu ray has the new SFX but you can also switch to original effects and sound if you just want the best quality old school feel. I like the new FX because I think it improves the shots and you don't just keep getting the same stock footage but e fact tha the original version is there but in 1080p makes this the he's set to have. I hope they can do the same with the Next Gen release but I suspect because it was all edited on film they're limited to going back to the film and reediting and recompositing so you won't be able to have the original versions in HD, but SD would be good enough for purists.

Re:Hmm (1)

Crookdotter (1297179) | more than 2 years ago | (#39191461)

Get the BR set, you can watch the remastered or original as aired. Nice to have the choice, but the set is pricey.

Re:Hmm (1)

C0R1D4N (970153) | more than 2 years ago | (#39191463)

I will happily accept new sfx to make it easier to introduce to newer "generations". If only they coulda redone the awful fight scenes too.

Re:Hmm (1)

pavon (30274) | more than 2 years ago | (#39191867)

AFAIK, the remastered TNG doesn't have any new special effects. Rather, the original filming and special effects were done on film and a ton of detail was lost in the conversion to 480i television. These new blueray disks just show what was already there in better detail, but the effects are still true to the era in which they were created, and consistent through-out the show so they don't look out of place.

what a difference! (4, Interesting)

v1 (525388) | more than 2 years ago | (#39191405)

From the article, open them in different tabs and switch between. Wow. I always wondered why the DVD image quality and colors sucked so badly, that explains it nicely.

DVD [hothardware.com]

BluRay [hothardware.com]

The bluray shot makes the DVD image look like a photo after it's been ran through the wash.

Re:what a difference! (1)

medv4380 (1604309) | more than 2 years ago | (#39191453)

Improved image quality is one thing. I'd rather see it in wide screen, but that's probably not possible even if you go back to the original source footage.

Re:what a difference! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39191545)

Sure it is. Just do what movie studios have been doing for years. Couple of black bars zoom in a bit and poof you have widescreen (sad but true...).

Re:what a difference! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39191635)

It was filmed in 4:3.

Re:what a difference! (1)

Jeremy Erwin (2054) | more than 2 years ago | (#39191731)

Put your TV in stretch mode. The actors will look like linebackers (and will have more realistic body images as a result), but at least your TV won't be wasting space on black bars.

Re:what a difference! (1, Troll)

MobyDisk (75490) | more than 2 years ago | (#39191577)

I love how HotHardware went out of their way to use Javascript to prevent you from opening them in pop-up windows. You have to click the image, then copy the URL, then open a tab, then paste the URL. Did they not think that comparing screen shots might be something the reader wants to do??? It would also be a bit easier without 3 flash ads on every single picture. Thank God for flashblock. That is not a site I will be visiting often.

Re:what a difference! (0)

Darinbob (1142669) | more than 2 years ago | (#39191821)

But the only thing blu-ray really gives you is the aspect ratio, DVD could have the color too if it used the same remastered shots. With blu-ray you also come with all the baggage and drawbacks of blu-ray: DRM. A newer blu-ray disc may often require newer firmware, not because of any defects but because they want to unauthorize some older discs. You don't own these discs. Of course hd-dvd was just as bad but no on _needs_ HD video,

Question (2)

McGruber (1417641) | more than 2 years ago | (#39191411)

How well does Marina Sirtis hold up in the remastered version?

Re:Question (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39191533)

Hopefully as perky as ever.

(a humorous side note: the captcha for this post is "sinful")

Re:Question (1)

Brett Buck (811747) | more than 2 years ago | (#39191571)

Better than real life!

Re:Question (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39191589)

As ugly as ever.

CGI (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39191421)

Paramount is going to spend substantial money on this project. Not only do they have to find all of the pieces of film in the valuts, but the latter four years the special effects were done strictly on low rez CGI. They're going to have to recreate those effects, much like they did on the original series BluRays.

Re:CGI (2)

perpenso (1613749) | more than 2 years ago | (#39191683)

Paramount is going to spend substantial money on this project. Not only do they have to find all of the pieces of film in the valuts, but the latter four years the special effects were done strictly on low rez CGI. They're going to have to recreate those effects, much like they did on the original series BluRays.

Maybe not. Even in the 90s the CGI resolution probably exceeded 1080p. The low res may have been introduced in the conversion to TV. Or are you really referring to low triangle counts and primitive shading compared to today's norms?

Wide Screen (4, Interesting)

markdavis (642305) | more than 2 years ago | (#39191503)

I was really hoping they would attempt to create a wide-screen version of the series by over-scaning the original film, cropping the top and bottom a tad, and stretching a tad to end up with 16:9.

Of course, I don't know exactly what aspect the original film was, and it is likely there will be things that should not be seen to the right/left in the overscan region. And the special effects might be exactly 4:3, in which case it would be very expensive to "fix".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overscan [wikipedia.org]

Re:Wide Screen (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39191573)

All special effects have to be redone anyway, that's what's taking most of the time and money in these releases.

Re:Wide Screen (1)

mattack2 (1165421) | more than 2 years ago | (#39191621)

Oh, so they're NOT cropping it? I thought one of the big (valid) complaints about this was that they were making a 16:9 version of something that wasn't 16:9 -- and they couldn't, since the original special effects were in 4:3..

I could understand adding more in (optionally) than what was there, but I don't want any of the picture taken away.

I don't remember examples, but there have been some old TV shows released in the past few years "in 16:9" that were simply cropped. That's just as bad as when movies were only available in pan & scan.

Re:Wide Screen (1)

EvanED (569694) | more than 2 years ago | (#39191643)

Amazon at least says the Blu-Rays are 1.33:1, and my impression from reading about their attitude is that's what they'll be.

Fortunately. :-) (Said as another who much prefers letterboxed widescreen, even on 4:3.)

Re:Wide Screen (1)

markdavis (642305) | more than 2 years ago | (#39191653)

See my other posting....(I replied to myself) If they use overscan, the amount of cropping would be truly tiny. Nobody would ever notice. And it would beautifully fill a modern 16:9 screen.

If no overscan were available, however, like you said, it would be HORRIBLE.

Re:Wide Screen (1)

markdavis (642305) | more than 2 years ago | (#39191631)

Reply to self:

Ah, here is a perfect illustration of what they could have done:

http://subtuum.com/index.php?/topic/1958-star-trek-tng-remastered/ [subtuum.com]

His assumptions are like mine- that a wider aspect was originally used on the film. 15x9 according to "Apotheoun". If that entire amount were usable, only a tiny crop takes you to wonderful 16:9!

Alas, after looking at more articles, it appears it will all be 4:3 :( Not sure why the main article link shows the effects in 16:9 or wider (THAT would be REALLY annoying if it shifts from 4:3 to something wider for effects, then back to 4:3 for live action).

Re:Wide Screen (4, Insightful)

MobyDisk (75490) | more than 2 years ago | (#39191633)

cropping the top and bottom a tad, and stretching a tad to end up with 16:9.

I sure hope you are kidding. This is the kind of BS that studios do because someone complains that it doesn't fill their entire TV. As though all recorded video must be modified to fit whatever particular TV the person bought. It was recorded for 4:3! I don't need to see Picard's head cropped-off and his butt widened just because someone doesn't understand the concept of an aspect ratio. I would love to see someone do that to their family photos. "Dad, why is Mom's head cut out of the picture? And why is everyone fat?"

Re:Wide Screen (1)

markdavis (642305) | more than 2 years ago | (#39191709)

No, I am not kidding. But you are replying out of context. This would only be acceptable if they were to gain area from the left and right overscan (the area not normally seen on a 4:3 TV).

I did not/was not proposing a mutilation of 4:3 source to force it to fit onto 16:9. I am talking about REMASTERING it from the wider film, and if not quite wide enough, tweak it slightly in ways no human could ever detect. :)

Look at the example someone else did, that I linking in my other post: http://subtuum.com/index.php?/topic/1958-star-trek-tng-remastered/ [subtuum.com]

Re:Wide Screen (2)

DreadPiratePizz (803402) | more than 2 years ago | (#39191703)

Probably because often there's shit in the overscan like gear or lights. What you are saying is actually done now though. Girl with the dragon tattoo for example, was shot in 5K with a 4K center cut at 2.35:1. For the blu-ray, they simply remove the matte and scale actually giving you more picture area.

Wrong three episodes (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39191513)

They should have done episodes that would really show off the process. I would have picked Best of Both Worlds, Yesterday's Enterprise and either The Pegasus or All Good Things... because they are the best examples of what the series has to offer and would benefit from the effects uplift.

Fuck Blu Ray (0, Flamebait)

future assassin (639396) | more than 2 years ago | (#39191525)

Tape > DVD = next generation
DVD > Blu Ray = money grab

I'd rather have it in a downloadable file form but piratebay beat them to it.

Asus O!play + Multiuple HD + torrents = sorry don't want your disks any more I'd rather pirate until you get your head out of your ass.

DS9 season 6 only few more hours to download finish......

Re:Fuck Blu Ray (1)

bondsbw (888959) | more than 2 years ago | (#39191637)

There was no such "DVD > Blu Ray". This was remastered from original film stock, not just upscaled to HD resolution. A great deal more effort was put into this conversion than the DVD conversion.

Re:Fuck Blu Ray (2)

Darinbob (1142669) | more than 2 years ago | (#39191831)

So why not DVD versions for those of us boycotting blu-ray for life?

Re:Fuck Blu Ray (3, Interesting)

geekoid (135745) | more than 2 years ago | (#39191833)

Cheap ass finds weak ass excuse to make him self feel good about Infringing on people copyright, news a 11.

If the present it like the did the remastered TOS (1)

Shivetya (243324) | more than 2 years ago | (#39191593)

Then I will be fine. In the remastered TOS you could switch between versions. I will be the first to admit I loved the new graphics in the remastered version of TOS because they took nothing from the story while many times enhancing it.

The real scary part for me is realizing how old TNG is.

Streamable? (1)

MobyDisk (75490) | more than 2 years ago | (#39191597)

I remember DVD and Blu-ray. I wonder when this will be available on Netflix? That's where I watch ST:TNG now. Hopefully they will start streaming the HD versions instead.

Re:Streamable? (1)

fiannaFailMan (702447) | more than 2 years ago | (#39191657)

It's not remastered but the whole series is available right now on Netflix actually. So is DS9 (a personal favourite of mine), VOY and TOS.

There's a bit of Enterprise in there too but who gives a toss?

Rather something else (3, Interesting)

fermion (181285) | more than 2 years ago | (#39191615)

As I grow older, I find TNG to formulaic and not so watchable. I more likely to watch DS9 or Voyager. They tend to rely less on magic, though voyager did have an almost fatal number of time travel episodes. Don't get me wrong. TNG probably has more very excellent episodes(maybe 10) but that did not compensate for the overwhelming amount of filler, not to mention disastrous cast changes.

I remember watching the first episode of TNG. The studio shooting was as dreadful as TOS, but when the music came up, and the Patrick Stewart voiceover came up, there was a great confort that along with the bad there was going to be a lot of good. Of course, one the quest for rating took hold and the overwhelming militaristic mission took over, it was pretty much over. TNG and the Borg. DSP and the dominion. Enterprise and the confusing and arbitrary Xindi. Peaceful explorations simply does not sell laundry detergent.

Re:Rather something else (4, Insightful)

Suddenly_Dead (656421) | more than 2 years ago | (#39191849)

As I grow older, I find TNG to formulaic and not so watchable. I more likely to watch DS9 or Voyager. They tend to rely less on magic

Voyager is all magic, I have no idea what you're talking about. I can't count the number of episodes that were solved by the damn deflector dish, or some other arbitrary solutions, nor the amount of screen time devoted to technobabbling. The problems encountered were almost all caused by magic, the situations were crazy and nonsensical, the solutions were insane, and it was all riddled with inconsistencies with itself and other treks. When it wasn't magical technology, it was magical humanity (characters who made no sense whatsoever).

Macro viruses! The Omega Directive! Cooperative Borg! Insane Janeway! Tuvix! Uggggh.

I remember watching the first episode of TNG. The studio shooting was as dreadful as TOS, but when the music came up, and the Patrick Stewart voiceover came up, there was a great confort that along with the bad there was going to be a lot of good. Of course, one the quest for rating took hold and the overwhelming militaristic mission took over, it was pretty much over. TNG and the Borg. DSP and the dominion. Enterprise and the confusing and arbitrary Xindi. Peaceful explorations simply does not sell laundry detergent.

The later Borg plot in TNG that it sounds like you're talking about (Picard assimilated, etc.) was two episodes long, and there were only a handful of others. The Mission didn't become militaristic, unlike in Enterprise. TNG was kind of magical and more TOS-like for the first season or two. After that it was quite soapy and character-centric.

...and Slashdot wonders... (4, Interesting)

Hobart (32767) | more than 2 years ago | (#39191623)

...will this article be enough to make CleverNickName [slashdot.org] log back on after 2.5 years? :-)

They better not have... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39191627)

...fucked with any of the storyline in The Inner Light. That's the only episode of the whole entire TNG series (and any of its spin-offs) that's actually worth a damn.

Re:They better not have... (1)

dmacleod808 (729707) | more than 2 years ago | (#39191679)

How exactly would they "fuck with the storyline" they can only re-edit what they have, I don't see how they can mess with the actual episode content.

Re:They better not have... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39191753)

The remastered Picard's flute song by turning it into the theme of Enterprise.

New effects (1)

horigath (649078) | more than 2 years ago | (#39191649)

The new CGI effect example in the article is terrible. The article notes that the animated ship looks noticeably different from the model in the rest of the episode, but it also looks like junk on its own merits.

Cant get enough ST (1)

na1led (1030470) | more than 2 years ago | (#39191665)

Now I'd like to see the Original series in HD!

Re:Cant get enough ST (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 2 years ago | (#39191809)

The I recommend you buy the remaster Blu Ray Original series.

acting (1)

aahpandasrun (948239) | more than 2 years ago | (#39191713)

Will the Blu-Ray improve the awful acting in the 1st half of season 1?

Re:acting (2)

MrP- (45616) | more than 2 years ago | (#39191771)

No but they photoshopped a mustache on Riker.

HOT Hardware fails with webdesign (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39191727)

Their stupid popup windows force me to copy&paste the image url into new tabs to really compare them.

Didn't they realize that while writing that article?

FAIL

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