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LulzSec Leader Sabu Unmasked, Arrested and Caught Collaborating

samzenpus posted more than 2 years ago | from the keeps-your-friends-close dept.

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Velcroman1 writes "Law enforcement agents on two continents swooped in on top members of the infamous computer hacking group LulzSec early this morning, and acting largely on evidence gathered by the organization's brazen leader — who sources say has been secretly working for the government for months — arrested three and charged two more with conspiracy. Charges against four of the five were based on a conspiracy case filed in New York federal court, FoxNews.com has exclusively learned. An indictment charging the suspects, who include two men from Great Britain, two from Ireland and an American in Chicago is expected to be unsealed Tuesday morning in the Southern District of New York. 'This is devastating to the organization,' said an FBI official involved with the investigation. 'We're chopping off the head of LulzSec.'"

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He was arrested (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39260755)

...For the lulz

Re:Hey wait a sec (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39260847)

Charges against four of the five were based on a conspiracy case filed in New York federal court

Hey, that's a double standard!

Whenever you have reason to think there are conspiracies within government, why you're paranoid and that's absurd, no I won't look at your evidence because that just can't be so, *plugs ears* nana nana nana I can't hear you ... we all know people with money and power are happy people with good feelings who'd never do that...

But when government says they found a conspiracy among private individuals, why that's just law enforcement.

Re:Hey wait a sec (5, Insightful)

jythie (914043) | more than 2 years ago | (#39261083)

Sadly, it really comes down to who you work for rather then what you are doing. If lulzsec was doing illegal work for politicians or government they would be fine. For that matter if they were doing it for profit to help a company that contracted them they would probably just get a slap on the wrist since many seem to feel that activism is less ethical then profit.. or more accurately, the more money you make the more acceptable it is.

Re:Hey wait a sec (1)

Gripp (1969738) | more than 2 years ago | (#39261201)

if only i had mod points for you sir

Re:Hey wait a sec (3, Insightful)

jhoegl (638955) | more than 2 years ago | (#39261307)

Really? You would mod up someone who has absolutely no proof, has formed a jaded opinion off of various reports, nitpicking what they need to form their opinion, and then post it on slashdot on a news report that may kinda sorta support their crazy ass conspiracy?
Hmm.... I think I just came up with the internet conspiracy formula.... patent pending!!!

Re:Hey wait a sec (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39261333)

Really? You would mod up someone who has absolutely no proof, has formed a jaded opinion off of various reports, nitpicking what they need to form their opinion, and then post it on slashdot on a news report that may kinda sorta support their crazy ass conspiracy? Hmm.... I think I just came up with the internet conspiracy formula.... patent pending!!!

some people just won't believe what's happening until the storm troopers kick down their door making it as undeniably obvious as they seem to want.

you, sir, are one of those.

Re:Hey wait a sec (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39261475)

And some people are just really, really stupid.

You sir, are one of those.

Re:Hey wait a sec (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39261363)

if only i had mod points for you sir

Re:Hey wait a sec (1)

kilfarsnar (561956) | more than 2 years ago | (#39261405)

Really? You would mod up someone who has absolutely no proof, has formed a jaded opinion off of various reports, nitpicking what they need to form their opinion, and then post it on slashdot on a news report that may kinda sorta support their crazy ass conspiracy? Hmm.... I think I just came up with the internet conspiracy formula.... patent pending!!!

So, do you disagree that the dynamic he illustrates exists?

Re:Hey wait a sec (5, Insightful)

clonehappy (655530) | more than 2 years ago | (#39261441)

Please sir, pray tell...how blatantly obvious do the powers that be have to make it to you that they are hardcore criminals before you will remove your head from the sand?

I am in no way defending LulzSec or anyone who commits crime for any reason. But if you honestly haven't learned yet that crime for corporate profit or expansion of government power is completely ignored while anyone who challenges the status quo is given life in Federal PMITA prison, you are naive and blissfully childish, and I only wish I could enjoy your blasé sense of morality.

Re:Hey wait a sec (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39261473)

Sadly, it really comes down to who you work for rather then what you are doing. If lulzsec was doing illegal work for politicians or government they would be fine. For that matter if they were doing it for profit to help a company that contracted them they would probably just get a slap on the wrist since many seem to feel that activism is less ethical then profit.. or more accurately, the more money you make the more acceptable it is.

I hate to break it to you, because you seem to be really enjoying wallowing in your cynicism, but if it were illegal, they'd be punished regardless of the circumstances. Now is it legal for the United States to conduct Cyber Warfare against another country? I am not sure.

Re:Hey wait a sec (0)

nedlohs (1335013) | more than 2 years ago | (#39261229)

Way to mix up two completely different meanings of the word "conspiracy",

Re:He was arrested (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39260873)

lulzsec are nothing but liberals trying to corrupt us.

Re:He was arrested (1, Flamebait)

girlintraining (1395911) | more than 2 years ago | (#39260875)

More likely he was arrested by accident and the government has the wrong guy or group. It's not like the arresting agency here has a track record of getting it right: They're routinely manufacturing terrorists by coercing people who would otherwise be disillusioned citizens from minority groups that just grump about without ever doing anything. Instead they pump these mentally unstable types up with false propaganda and then give them a fake bomb, then arrest them in front of fifty cameras and say "TA-DA! See, we're totally justified in abusing your civil liberties because heeeeeere's a terrorist!" This same agency has kicked in the doors of people suspected to be in possession of child porn (or, worse... downloads...) and then realizing the poor bastard they just made piss his pants and have a heart attack has an open wifi router he bought at the store and his grandson set it up so he could search for work... and the guy they're really looking for is presently sitting outside a Starbucks masturbating.

I doubt they did it for the lulz as much as for the "Let's give some poor bastard a fake trial and then ship him to one of our secret prisons all the while assuring the american public that this is a 'freedom enhancement' arrest."

Re:He was arrested (0)

masternerdguy (2468142) | more than 2 years ago | (#39260889)

Umm holy tinfoil hat!

Re:He was arrested (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39260965)

And the tinfoil somehow leaked into his brain and made him retarded.

Re:He was arrested (5, Insightful)

jythie (914043) | more than 2 years ago | (#39261115)

Ahm, actually it is a known problem in the US. Law enforcement was under incredible pressure to get results in 'finding terrorism' so they moved further and further into entrapment, essentially creating harmless (as in, they lacked resources, skills, or competency to be an actual threat) terrorists who they then arrested and held up as an example of their effectiveness and the utility of the new laws. So the person was a bit extreme but, like police planting drugs to meet their quotas, it does happen and is a legitimate issue.

Re:He was arrested (2)

Hoi Polloi (522990) | more than 2 years ago | (#39261293)

You've got to justify your budget somehow.

Re:He was arrested (2)

Runaway1956 (1322357) | more than 2 years ago | (#39261283)

Personally, I think your post is pretty accurate. The last couple of "terrorists" that I've read about didn't seem to be smart enough to plan an attack, let alone to build a bomb. One need look no further than the fact that they trusted an "undercover agent" to supply the bomb to find proof they ain't smart.

I can picture the hill country from the movie 'Deliverance'. A black car pulls up to the gas pumps, guy gets out, pumps some gas, pays for it, and starts talking to the inbred bunch of hillbillies loitering around. They're talking about something that "just ain't right" - taxes, or a black president, or the price of tobacco seed - whatever. So, the smooth talking guy from the black car thinks he's found a "live one", and goads them into badmouthing the president, or government in general. Pretty soon, he has one of them really mouthing off, so he offers to put them in touch with "some people I know".

The whole bunch of nitwits failed to notice the government tags on the black car, LMAO!!

Re:He was arrested (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39260907)

*thinks it's funny imagining the FBI Agent saying lulz*

Re:He was arrested (1)

NotBorg (829820) | more than 2 years ago | (#39261107)

So who gets the last laugh, the good guys or the bad guys? And please let me know which side you consider bad or good. I never know which side people are rooting for in these instances.

Re:He was arrested (1, Insightful)

tmosley (996283) | more than 2 years ago | (#39261341)

Neither. There will come a time before long when NO-ONE will be laughing, as the terror which has been wrought upon us by our government and the banks is revealed for what it really is.

Investigative journalists could pull back the curtain early, before it is too late, but the government is crushing what few are left.

Re:He was arrested (5, Insightful)

girlintraining (1395911) | more than 2 years ago | (#39261435)

There will come a time before long when NO-ONE will be laughing, as the terror which has been wrought upon us by our government and the banks is revealed for what it really is.

They won't care as long as they're offered a 15% discount on their car insurance. You overestimate humanity's desire for freedom. Civil liberties are a historical anomaly. Invariably, cultures that have them are conquered by those that do not, usually because cultures that have them are affluent and wealthy and cultures that don't have a whole lot of bodies they can throw at the problem until said culture is overrun.

Re:He was arrested (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39261277)

Epic fail doodz!

it's a mole! (4, Funny)

X0563511 (793323) | more than 2 years ago | (#39260771)

mole mole mole mole! (read it like Austin Powers)

Seriously... they scored the head of the organization as a mole? Either blatant luck, or someone knew what they were doing.

Or option C, said head has little scruples.

Re:it's a mole! (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39260821)

Or they're lying about having flipped the head. Consider the source.

Re:it's a mole! (2)

tripleevenfall (1990004) | more than 2 years ago | (#39260947)

Or they made him an offer he couldn't refuse, a la Agent Smith

Re:it's a mole! (5, Insightful)

SecurityGuy (217807) | more than 2 years ago | (#39260999)

Or option C, said head has little scruples.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that any time you're involved with someone engaged in criminal enterprise, you should probably assume they're not exactly the most ethical person.

Re:it's a mole! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39261335)

At what point does criminality become patriotism?

Re:it's a mole! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39261369)

At the point when you stop doing criminal stuff and switch to doing patriotic stuff.

Re:it's a plea deal (3, Insightful)

b4dc0d3r (1268512) | more than 2 years ago | (#39261477)

Reading comprehension should be the next thing you learn about. They identified and arrested the guy and flipped him. The article even says that - he plead out and he became a confidential informant.

He turned his guys over to the feds in exchange for the lulz. No wait, not for the lulz, but for lesser punishment. As previously stated, anyone simply in it for the lulz is not to be trusted. We should expect them not to be trusted, and they should have expected themselves not to be trusted.

Wow. (1)

owenferguson (521762) | more than 2 years ago | (#39260773)

Only 6 months too late to prevent the Lulzpocalipse.

Sabu is unemployed - what a surprise (1, Insightful)

Viol8 (599362) | more than 2 years ago | (#39260779)

Only people on the dole and school kids have time to do this shit, the rest of us have to earn an honest living.

Also I suspect he'll remain unemployed for a long time now whether he goes to jail or not. No sane employer will want him within a mile of their systems. There are plenty enough white hat hackers who can go on the payroll first.

Re:Sabu is unemployed - what a surprise (1)

kelemvor4 (1980226) | more than 2 years ago | (#39260805)

Only people on the dole and school kids have time to do this shit, the rest of us have to earn an honest living.

Also I suspect he'll remain unemployed for a long time now whether he goes to jail or not. No sane employer will want him within a mile of their systems. There are plenty enough white hat hackers who can go on the payroll first.

He could always freelance as a comedian.

For the lulz...

Re:Sabu is unemployed - what a surprise (3, Funny)

Gerardo Zamudio (1909534) | more than 2 years ago | (#39261047)

"What is the deal with those proxies anyway?"

Re:Sabu is unemployed - what a surprise (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39260955)

Unfortunately these low lives can make plenty of money on the dark side of things...

Re:Sabu is unemployed - what a surprise (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39261021)

They will be queuing up to hire him fool.
 

Re:Sabu is unemployed - what a surprise (2)

Viol8 (599362) | more than 2 years ago | (#39261043)

Oh suuure. After all , companies were lining up to hire Mitnick after he came out of prison.

Not.

Re:Sabu is unemployed - what a surprise (3, Informative)

Kagetsuki (1620613) | more than 2 years ago | (#39261239)

When Mitnick came out of prison he was out of the loop for a while so that's knid of an unfair comparison. Besides, Mitnick used his position to start his own company - and being a famous hacker is a damn good selling point. Still, in a strange twist he made awful decisions for his own company: http://www.2600.com/news/view/article/1531 [2600.com] . And if I was at all security related this is the first kind of person I'd be looking for. I mean think about it, who would you hire to do a security audit: someone who's broken into tons of systems or someone with an MCSE who took a weekend seminar about how to make IIS suck less?

Re:Sabu is unemployed - what a surprise (5, Insightful)

girlintraining (1395911) | more than 2 years ago | (#39261051)

Only people on the dole and school kids have time to do this shit, the rest of us have to earn an honest living.

A little bitter and prejudiced are we? No, it's not just kids that do this kind of thing. All that malware leeching away your personal data was not designed by teenagers or unemployed people. Software like that is often designed and used by people who are well-educated, often have jobs, and are otherwise just like you except for one minor detail: They think your working class ethos means dick, and they want to actually get ahead in the world rather than working for The Man forever and ever for crap health insurance and a shot at that extra $0.30 raise at the end of the year after using up their "generous" 11 days of vacation for the year... which also counts as their sick days... which means the average person spends their "vacation" being sick, and then gets written up and denied that $0.30 raise for taking too many days off. You might have heard of the most successful malware currently in use: It's called Facebook, and it's a scam that's become so popular that it has been incorporated and now has its own laison with the government (you know how much they hate competition in these kinds of things...)

I know Slashdot is in love with the idea of some lone samurai learning to hack in some temple somewhere, then bravely venturing forth fully versed in the art of code-fu, but it's just as fictional as those samurai movies: The overwhelming majority of people these days learn their trade on the job, or in school, and then they do this kind of stuff on the side. You just hear about the unemployed and school kids a lot more because (a) they're more likely to have deficits in their understanding of how to do this without getting caught and (b) if caught they're not going to be able to put up money for any kind of a legal defense.

No sane employer will want him within a mile of their systems.

You do realize that by denying people access to employment after their jail term has ended, you're leaving them only one option: Criminal activity, correct? The world of crime is a lot more amiable to a meritocracy than the corporate one; They don't try to hold onto weird beliefs like thinking how a person dresses is an indicator of potential, for example. It's just food for thought... not that I expect much thinking from you... you seem to be very narrow minded and prejudiced against the disadvantaged in general, so why would you ever stop and consider that maybe the problem is as much how we're treating them as their lack of ethics? Remember: You can't eat ethics. A very small number of people will be dicks just to be dicks, but the vast majority of people engage in unethical behavior because it has a benefit to them. That benefit is usually pretty basic too: Food, shelter, clothing, sex, etc. Of course, once they've gotten into the criminal world, it's hard to turn back because it's so goddamned profitable. So people wind up sticking a toe in the water and wind up getting pulled in deep. That's how it usually goes... no tricks, no arguments, no politics... just people who had some hard times, reached for the closest life preserver, and got sucked in.

We create the criminals when we allow social injustice.

Re:Sabu is unemployed - what a surprise (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39261163)

Its not fair! I've never seen a rainbow....or a sunrise.

Re:Sabu is unemployed - what a surprise (4, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39261227)

The world of crime is a lot more amiable to a meritocracy than the corporate one; They don't try to hold onto weird beliefs like thinking how a person dresses is an indicator of potential, for example

And this is why you're a girl in training and not a banker in training.

All sophisticated crimes are confidence tricks. How you dress is a significant indicator of potential.

"Meritocracy" rarely has substantive meaning: it is usually applied when someone without full understanding of a hierarchy fails to appreciate the full set of qualities required of an individual. For example, loyalty in business to an "Old Boys' Club", guaranteeing that personal friends will further each others' interests, is far more important than e.g. who got the highest grade in some stupid aptitude test or who managed to increase profitability most at their previous job.

But it's fortunate that we don't have meritocracy, because it's a euphemism for "might makes right".

Re:Sabu is unemployed - what a surprise (1)

lexsird (1208192) | more than 2 years ago | (#39261299)

Bravo, well said. But it falls mostly on deaf ears, and shackled minds. Observe how this mindset you are trying to reach is self perpetuating and serving to those up the food chain in this system. I understand this system, it served well in older times, when the world was still large and needing tamed. But the world is small now, and getting smaller by the nano second.

We must evolve our thinking out of this self serving animal instinct. If we don't work as a collective, one of these asteroids are going to turn this rock into a smoldering cinder. This is how the universe hatches worthy species. If they can't work together enough to make it into the cosmos before a cataclysmic collision occurs in this galaxy sized pinball machine, they are weeded from the universal gene pool.

Face it, if you can't get along with your neighbors who look just like you except for a few colors, and think just like you, separated by only details, you will not make good citizens of the universe. Look at how we treat our own planet and the denizens of it. What advanced species in their right minds would help a violent, evil natured species such as ours? We're lucky they don't genocide the lot of us on principle if they discover us.

Aliens? They stopped by looking for intelligent life; they kept going.

Spare me the teenage self justifcation crap (0, Flamebait)

Viol8 (599362) | more than 2 years ago | (#39261417)

Criminal activity is criminal activity whether you dress it up as some boo hoo sob story of some poor ickle struggling hacker trying to improve his sk177s and get noticed or not.

"That benefit is usually pretty basic too: Food, shelter, clothing, sex, etc"

Oh puh-lease! If you seriously think the sort of people sitting in a basement breaking into some companies webserver are short of food or shelter then your delusional. People who are really short of lifes basics have more important things to do than sit in front of a PC. As for sex - well , perhaps in the fantasy land in your head or some hollywood movies (and we know how realistic they are) you can get laid for a hack , but in the real world sonny women are impressed by other sorts of things - maturity being one of them. If you're gay however then who knows, I'm sure there are other gay hackers you could meet.

Re:Sabu is unemployed - what a surprise (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39261423)

Wow, someone's a little butthurt, aren't they? Not as butthurt as your buddy Sabu is going to be when they stuff him in a jail cell though. Oh well, at least the unemployed piece of shit will be getting regular meals along with the ass raping. Arresting the head loser of a group of notorious losers is a "social injustice" is it? Hilarious. I hate to break the bad news to you (might want to take your Guy Fawkes mask off so that the tears don't ruin it), but criminals create themselves. Hell, if he was a jobless turd because of a criminal offense he committed, that's his own fault, not the fault of "society" at large. Do all the finger-pointing and hand-waving you want but at the end of the day, Sabu made the choice to commit a crime, Sabu made the choice to collaborate with the government when he knew the hammer was going to drop on him. Sabu is the one to blame for his own problems, and now he's going to get what he deserves. Truth hurts, doesn't it?

Well, well, well. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39260783)

Looks like you scumbag Anons got what's coming to you. Even better, you got what's coming to you because one of you sold out to the feds to save their own, sorry script-kiddie ass. Enjoy your stay at one of America's fine, overseas secret prisons.

Re:Well, well, well. (4, Informative)

SJHillman (1966756) | more than 2 years ago | (#39260841)

I think you're getting LulzSec mixed up with Anonymous. Although there's some crossover between the two, they're generally regarded as separate entities.

Re:Well, well, well. (2)

HopefulIntern (1759406) | more than 2 years ago | (#39260883)

Seeing as Anonymous is simply the name given to anyone who posts on 4chan, it doesn't really identify anyone. Indeed, Lulzsec recruits skiddies on /b/, and the idea of mass-DDOS was made famous by *chan style invasions, but other than that there is no correlation.

Re:Well, well, well. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39260893)

Enjoy your stay at one of America's fine, overseas secret prisons.

A pound-me-in-the-ass prison, I hope.

Re:Well, well, well. (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39260971)

Why?
Seriously, why?

Re:Well, well, well. (5, Insightful)

jythie (914043) | more than 2 years ago | (#39261145)

Because Americans are both passionate (a good and bad thing) and pretty bloodthirsty when it comes to punishment. Many people get a thrill out of the idea of someone getting tortured and/or raped, but we have a nice social 'out' that if the person is a 'bad guy' then it is ethically OK and there is nothing wrong with the person salivating at the idea. The whole 'it is not evil if your victim is evil!' is very convient.

Re:Well, well, well. (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39260939)

I find it endlessly hilarious that you're posting as an Anonymous Coward.

Careful! (5, Informative)

sattu94 (1989362) | more than 2 years ago | (#39260785)

This is why any kind of Hacking intent should never be combined with monetary interests. It should be left alone as a Hobby. Getting involved in Politics is dangerous, especially if you are doing something illegal. And this might as well be a set up.

Re:Careful! (1)

tripleevenfall (1990004) | more than 2 years ago | (#39260963)

That's kind of what I was thinking. After they raised a few eyebrows in the beginning, they could have been simply wandering through honeypots while the FBI closed in.

Re:Careful! - Meh (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39261011)

I could care less. What major harm has this organization did that has affected me personally. Sure, they may have caused some political embarrassment and maybe some minor financial loss. Didn't affect me. And how much law enforcement money and people went into the operation to catch them? Probably lots.

All the white crime acts performed by the banks that caused our financial downfall and destroyed countless lives still goes mainly unpunished. I don't support hacker groups like this, but when the government doesn't go after the real criminals then I will start rooting for the hackers.

Screw you FBI! You're just a tool for the man.

Shameful and Orwellian on so many levels (4, Interesting)

FreeUser (11483) | more than 2 years ago | (#39261327)

This is why any kind of Hacking intent should never be combined with monetary interests.

That is true, but since the source is Fox News (Rupert Mudoch), as another poster pointed out we need to take this with a huge dose of salt.

If, however, this should turn out to be true, I find it disturbing on so many levels. Is anyone reminded of 1984 at all? The government running an underground resistence organization, to attract and arrest "revolutionaries." I'm not a fan of lulzsec at all, but this story, if at all true, is one of the more overtly Orwellian things I've seen, and living in an age of Orwellian behavior, with western democracies perched on the precipice of right-wing fascism, the middle east largely given over to their brand of sectarian fascism, and authoritarianism on the rise in Russia, China, and elsewhere, that is saying a lot.

What is even more telling, is how blase people are about the idea of a countercultural "leader" inciting criminality and then handing those he's managed to influence over to the authorities for "processing." Too many of us don't even seem to know enough to be ashamed, or appalled, by this kind of thing, so few in fact, that the GOP mouthpiece is essentially bragging about using such methods to take down a group they've found so easy to demonize. A process made easier no doubt, if the story is true, by the very behavior their mole incited and coordinated in the first place. Agent provocateur on steriods.

If this turns out to be at all true, and if we were a healthy democracy, the "leader" and his handlers would be facing serious jailtime, while those incited into this behavior would see a blackmark on their record and probation, hopefully scared straight. But those days died out sometime in the early naughties, and things have only gone downhill from there.

Chopping off the head... (1)

Reilaos (1544173) | more than 2 years ago | (#39260787)

They're chopping off the head of an organization that's hasn't operated as a discrete entity for around 9 months?

Or have I missed something? Has Lulzsec operated as Lulzsec (and not part of the overarching Anonymous movement) recently?

Re:Chopping off the head... (2)

Paradise Pete (33184) | more than 2 years ago | (#39260829)

They're chopping off the head of an organization that's hasn't operated as a discrete entity for around 9 months?

He was arrested about 9 months ago.

Re:Chopping off the head... (1)

luis_a_espinal (1810296) | more than 2 years ago | (#39260871)

They're chopping off the head of an organization that's hasn't operated as a discrete entity for around 9 months?

He was arrested about 9 months ago.

Talking about a decapitating strike... for the lulz.

Stop the presses! (5, Interesting)

girlintraining (1395911) | more than 2 years ago | (#39260797)

WAIT! It's a story from Fox News. Wait until a more reputable news source reports the details. All every other reputable source [washingtonpost.com] is saying is that some dude got arrested and the feds think he's part of lulzsec. The rest is probably exaggeration if not complete fabrication and speculation on the part of that news organization. Do not assume anything in the article is true.

Re:Stop the presses! (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39260905)

I read it that far and was thinking the same thing.

Ok let's get out the Glenn Beck chalkboard... hmmm one of the members of Lulzsec is an American, Barack Obama is the president of the US, that means he is the leader of the Americans... Obama, leader, Lulzsec, Oh my God!

Re:Stop the presses! (5, Funny)

jamstar7 (694492) | more than 2 years ago | (#39261089)

Of course the head of Lulzsec has to be American. FOX News tells me only an American could lead such a group. Only an American would have the intelligence to lead third-world Brits & Irish on a rampage that damages corporations and banks. Third Worlders are idiots, that's why we keep invading them and overthrowing their governments in favor of democratic systems that favor corporations. It's the American way, and we're exporting it bigtime. Unless the particular piece of ground has nothing the corporations want. Then you can starve in your mud huts. We'll send enough Peace Corps volunteers to keep the liberals happy while we loot the rest of the planet.

Re:Stop the presses! (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39260931)

reputable source [washingtonpost.com]

Mmm, delicious yellowcake.

Re:Stop the presses! (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39260983)

Fox News editorials are bullshit, but their news reporting is no less accurate than WaPo. I can imagine a known conservative news outlet being able to establish deeper sources within law enforcement than their more liberal counterparts, hence their scoop on the exclusive info. I'm not a conservative btw, and posting anon for obvious reasons.

Re:Stop the presses! (3, Interesting)

girlintraining (1395911) | more than 2 years ago | (#39261359)

but their news reporting is no less accurate than WaPo.

Yeah... I remember how they accurately reported the space shuttle re-entering the atmosphere at 17 times the speed of light too. Anyway... since you couldn't be bothered to google for some non-editorial examples of Fox News 'facts', here's what I found just punching in "fox news facts" into _google image search_.

http://cloudfront.mediamatters.org/static/images/item/fnc-an-20110725-ss-facts.jpg [mediamatters.org]

http://isviral.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Fox-News-Chuck-Norris-facts.jpg [isviral.com]

http://cloudfront.mediamatters.org/static/images/item/cowboy3.jpg [mediamatters.org]

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=A3BD2524FE99BD4D [youtube.com] ...

I could do this all day, but I hope you get my point. There's plenty of websites out there about how skewed their productions are. Even Colbert had a good laugh at their expense, dedicating not one, but six shows to showing off how shoddy their reporting is. But I mean, hey... if you want to say that they're being unfairly targeted for being 'conservative', hey, that's okay I guess. Everyone's entitled to their opinions. I just draw the line at people passing opinions off as facts, that's all.

Re:Stop the presses! (0)

couchslug (175151) | more than 2 years ago | (#39261403)

"I'm not a conservative btw, and posting anon for obvious reasons."

Obvious why? I don't give a shit about karma and post what I wish.

Some get modded +5, some get modded Troll, and at the end of the day not a fuck is given.

Re:Stop the presses! (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39260985)

It's now in the NY Times http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2012/03/06/business/AP-US-Hacking-Arrests.html

Re:Stop the presses! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39261053)

Is it just me or is using the sentence "We're chopping off the head of LulzSec." a little ironic when the head of LulzSec works for you (and I presume won't be punished)?

Re:Stop the presses! (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39261071)

Please get your head out of your ass.

Re:Stop the presses! (0, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39261073)

I find it amazing that /. is full of people that are so quick to bash fox news, but are so quick to believe any liberal media source. I really love the "study" that says fox news viewers are idiots.

It's good stuff.

Re:Stop the presses! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39261177)

I really love the "study" that says fox news viewers are idiots. It's good stuff.

It's true stuff. I have seen several statistical studies that point to the same conclusions.

Re:Stop the presses! (1)

anti-pop-frustration (814358) | more than 2 years ago | (#39261231)

From the Fox News article:

"Anonymous is believed to have caused billions of dollars in damage to governments, international banks and corporations"

Emphasis mine.

Re:Stop the presses! (1)

girlintraining (1395911) | more than 2 years ago | (#39261389)

"Anonymous is believed to have caused billions of dollars in damage to governments, international banks and corporations"

That's totally true, and if you disagree, it's because you're a liberal who can't handle the facts! In other (fox) news my harddrives are currently worth more than the GDP of the entire continent of Africa.

Re:Stop the presses! (2)

MarkvW (1037596) | more than 2 years ago | (#39261469)

I didn't even read the Fox News article. I trusted those lying bastards in their coverage of Iraq--WMD. THEY BURNED ME BAD. I avoid all Rupert Murdoch lying scum news. They are continually slanting stuff.

The FBI is always cutting off the head of some criminal organization or another. After you've heard it for the nth time, it gets old . . .

So LulzSec was secretly controlled by the US gov? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39260811)

I pretty much knew that that was the case. But I am surprised that the US government is admitting it in national news. Talk about brazen arrogance of power...

Re:So LulzSec was secretly controlled by the US go (1)

luis_a_espinal (1810296) | more than 2 years ago | (#39260927)

I pretty much knew that that was the case. But I am surprised that the US government is admitting it in national news. Talk about brazen arrogance of power...

Arrogance of power, what the heck are you talking about?

Re:So LulzSec was secretly controlled by the US go (1)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | more than 2 years ago | (#39260959)

I pretty much knew that that was the case. But I am surprised that the US government is admitting it in national news. Talk about brazen arrogance of power...

What might actually get slightly interesting is the case of any of the lulzsec victims during the period when the feds had some degree of control... I remember there being a bunch of litigation surrounding victims of various mob groups that the FBI had significantly infiltrated/compromised; but allowed to continue 'business as usual' for a period of time in order to gather evidence or similar. The relatives of those killed were less than pleased to learn that the FBI had sacrificed them for the case. It would be interesting to see if any of the entities knocked over by lulzsec feel like having a swing at the feds for damages...

It will also be interesting to see if the case against lulzsec itself is actually as strong as claimed, or if it quietly drags on for several years and then dissolves into a sticky mess of plea-bargains for relatively minor offenses; but that won't be knowable for a good while to come.

Queue the... (1)

tenverras (855530) | more than 2 years ago | (#39260857)

We can queue up the "If you strike me down..." quote anytime now.

Re:Queue the... (1)

tom17 (659054) | more than 2 years ago | (#39261121)

Why queue it when you can just say it?

Or did you mean 'Cue the..."?

Re:Queue the... (1)

Miseph (979059) | more than 2 years ago | (#39261453)

I imagine GP was hoping for an orderly repetition of memes. None of this mucking about, inserting one bad joke directly inside another. No sir, we need lines.

Should be interesting to follow... (4, Interesting)

Oswald McWeany (2428506) | more than 2 years ago | (#39260887)

This should be interesting to follow. They may have cut off the head of LulzSec but is this going to be like a hydra?
Certainly there are already other "LulzSec wannabes" out-there following in Sabu's wake.

I have split feelings about this. Lulzsec didn't do anything to directly harm my interests- although, theoretically they could have at any time- yet having rogue groups like LS was a threat to all people in one way or another. On the other hand- a world with no LulzSec would be a threat to us too. When governments can quickly lock down groups like this- government has too much power.

It is probably just and right that Sabu go to jail- but it's also good they couldn't catch him too quickly... if you understand what I mean.

Did anyone else notice... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39260895)

The alleged Sabu is a Mac user?

Interesting: (4, Informative)

Hartree (191324) | more than 2 years ago | (#39260897)

If it's the same Jeremy Hammond, he's a known item in Chicago for some time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Hammond [wikipedia.org]

The talk page is interesting as well.

"unmasked" by the FBI (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39260899)

this guys info was outed by an internet detective not an FBI agent

Soon to be a major motion picture! (1)

phrostie (121428) | more than 2 years ago | (#39260909)

Entrapment 2012: The Hack Trap

with exclusive inside footage never before seen using computers with excessively oversized fonts!

I wonder (1)

KuRa_Scvls (932317) | more than 2 years ago | (#39260937)

I wonder how long anonymous and lulzsec will take to reorganize and start vandalizing again.

Re:I wonder (2)

Kagetsuki (1620613) | more than 2 years ago | (#39261275)

You're making the assumption their activities have been interrupted.... hell this may just piss them off and increase their aggressiveness.

Like kicking a beehive.

What? (1)

JustAnotherIdiot (1980292) | more than 2 years ago | (#39260969)

'This is devastating to the organization,' said an FBI official involved with the investigation. 'We're chopping off the head of LulzSec.'

Once again, showing that the morons in power don't understand how the internet works.
If you really want to call this guy a head, call him a head of a hydra.
Chop off this so called head, and two more grow in it's place.

Learning from history (3, Insightful)

RenHoek (101570) | more than 2 years ago | (#39261019)

I wonder if they'll have as much success as Hercules.

Re:Learning from history (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39261149)

I wonder how Hercules is history. More of a legend you know...

Re:Learning from history (1)

montyzooooma (853414) | more than 2 years ago | (#39261303)

These days Intelligent Design is science and Hercules is history. Deal with it. Nothing good ever came of facts.

Government resources... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39261085)

Apart from the question who has really been caught, it is quite amazing how much effort, money and time some governments invest to catch a bunch of people who find vulnerabilities in their badly secured networks and leak questionable or private information.

I wish they would focus as much on people who are responsible for war crimes, abuses of civil rights and the financial crisis. But these hackers probably lack the resources to defend themselves making them an easier target for government agencies to brag about the success against hackers.

More Arrests... (1)

aeranvar (2589619) | more than 2 years ago | (#39261133)

I have to wonder if more arrests will be coming soon. A mole is only as good as long as the group the mole is infiltrating doesn't know the mole is a mole. While Lulzsec is generally thought of as distinct from Anonymous, there is overlap and this guy might have passed information about that overlap.

From Sabu's Twitter account: (4, Interesting)

anti-pop-frustration (814358) | more than 2 years ago | (#39261159)

One of his last tweet before the arrest:

"They read your mails. Listen to your calls. Break into your wireless routers+sniff your traffic. GPS cars. I'm not talking about terrorists." https://twitter.com/#!/anonymouSabu/status/176683665919721472 [twitter.com]

I guess he really knew what he was talking about.

Yahoo Mail passwords. (0)

SCHecklerX (229973) | more than 2 years ago | (#39261171)

I *still* get spam from real accounts of my friends. I believe the spammers got ahold of the password lists from all of this and have been using it to spam from legitimate accounts by actually logging into them?

Great, Can you say BANKSTERS now? (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39261173)

Now that the world is safe from LulzSec, how about some cuffs for the real criminals and their official enablers who have free reign still to this day.

Banksters and officials who enabled them
Fast and Furious
Oath breakers of the US Constitution

Ought to be a full time job right there, no time to screw with medical cannabis, milk farmers, or guitar manufacturer's.,

Re:Great, Can you say BANKSTERS now? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39261467)

Sorry, you didn't hear the news that the Justice System changed its name?

It's now called the Injustice System.

Fox News: Newsworthy? (0)

LeAzzholeChef (2576267) | more than 2 years ago | (#39261179)

Anyone basing their information from Fox News Sources is sorely screwed in the arse. Spouting intel that fox released is like telling President Obama He's a white kid with shoe polish on.

Whoosh (1)

ThatsNotPudding (1045640) | more than 2 years ago | (#39261373)

"This is devastating to the organization," said an FBI official involved with the investigation. 'We're chopping off the head of LulzSec."

"And if that overhead whooshing sound doesn't stop, I will have to terminate this press conference."

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