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I won't buy it. (5, Funny)

rush,overlord,rush! (1995452) | more than 2 years ago | (#39271013)

The insurance must be very high.

MI6 will cover it (2)

Joe_Dragon (2206452) | more than 2 years ago | (#39271127)

sign hear Mr bond

Re:MI6 will cover it (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39271179)

Sign "hear"? Put down the keyboard and walk away from the computer. Go learn english.

Re:MI6 will cover it (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39271217)

I imagined it being said in one of those old style Chicago mobster voices.

"Mehhh! Sign, hear? Mr. Bond?"

Re:MI6 will cover it (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39271573)

Please put the penis back in your mouth and get the fuck out.

Re:MI6 will cover it (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39271679)

English is a proper noun and is spelled with a capital E. Put down the keyboard and walk away from the computer. Go learn English.

Re:MI6 will cover it (2)

squizzar (1031726) | more than 2 years ago | (#39272607)

Alright, let's start with the basics. English is a non-inflected Indo-European language derived from dialects of....

Re:MI6 will cover it (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39273793)

No, let's start with BASIC:

10 PRINT "HELLO WORLD"
20 GOTO 10

Re:MI6 will cover it (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39271527)

I'm just going to leave this right here... [youtube.com]

Re:I won't buy it. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39271219)

This car is as invisible as I am when I'm hiding under a blanket. They could have fitted it with a mirror and the effect would just as good.

Also, looking at the car's left side is not enough: you also need to look at that side from the right angle.

Re:I won't buy it. (0)

gadget junkie (618542) | more than 2 years ago | (#39272779)

This car is as invisible as I am when I'm hiding under a blanket. They could have fitted it with a mirror and the effect would just as good.

Also, looking at the car's left side is not enough: you also need to look at that side from the right angle.

Do not worry. Just put your towel over your face, and it will not harm you.

Re:I won't buy it. (1)

flyneye (84093) | more than 2 years ago | (#39273287)

It's invisible enough.
" Did we just back into something? I don't see anything... oh well"
I wonder if it comes with a handy slippery slide or moose groomers and any other things you might need.

Re:I won't buy it. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39272665)

"A new research report was released, blaming invisible cars for a significant uptick in the amount of road accidents. The car manufacturers were quick to denounce the travesty and claim damages from the researchers for tarnishing their impeccable reputation on hydrogen fuel cell powered vehicles."

All My (4, Funny)

NEDHead (1651195) | more than 2 years ago | (#39271017)

Luxury cars are cloaked too - which is why it looks like I drive an old minivan

Re:All My (4, Insightful)

mjwx (966435) | more than 2 years ago | (#39272089)

Luxury cars are cloaked too - which is why it looks like I drive an old minivan

Bah, I dont need a cloaking device, most drivers act like the cant see my car already.

Sorry, watching Super Tuesday coverage. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39271053)

Can't be bothered with BS like this. Do you realize who may be in control of internet policy a year from now?

Re:Sorry, watching Super Tuesday coverage. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39271639)

Samizdat sees the Internet as damage and routes around it.

Re:Sorry, watching Super Tuesday coverage. (1)

Chrisq (894406) | more than 2 years ago | (#39272587)

Can't be bothered with BS like this. Do you realize who may be in control of internet policy a year from now?

Who? The Bavarian Illuminati?

thermodynamics (1, Flamebait)

dumuzi (1497471) | more than 2 years ago | (#39271063)

Until our electricity comes from renewable sources hydrogen power is worse than fossil fuels. Not to mention the energy wasted in the production of their LEDs and making of the commercial to market a wasteful and impractical product.

Re:thermodynamics (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39271153)

Run some leads from a solar panel to a glass of water instint hydrogen. Not to mention the only emissions from a fuel cell are pure water. Id say a engine that spits out nothing but pure water which just so happens to be easy cheep clean source of its own fuel is about as green as you get.

Re:thermodynamics (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39271245)

yeah have fun with the 300 acre farm you'll need to fuel one car for a day..

Thermodynamics (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39271175)

Umm... except that electricity does partially come from renewable sources, just not all of it. As opposed to conventional IC engines, which run off of 100% non-renewable dino-waste.

Hydrogen centralizes the pollution for remediation (4, Insightful)

perpenso (1613749) | more than 2 years ago | (#39271391)

Until our electricity comes from renewable sources hydrogen power is worse than fossil fuels.

I don't think it is quite that simple. Hydrogen moves the pollution from many mobile sources, cars, to a very small number of non-mobile sources, power generation stations. With all pollution coming from these stations there is the opportunity for remediation, capturing the pollution to prevent its entry into the environment. Doing so is expensive and technically challenging but plausible.

Re:Hydrogen centralizes the pollution for remediat (2, Interesting)

LordLucless (582312) | more than 2 years ago | (#39271515)

I don't think it is quite that simple. Hydrogen moves the pollution from many mobile sources, cars, to a very small number of non-mobile sources, power generation stations.

You know what also does that? Electric cars. And without the extra, extremely inefficient electrolysis step.
Electric: Dinosaurs -> Electricity -> Vroom
Fuel Cell: Dinosaurs -> Electricity -> Hydrogen -> Vroom
Not to mention that either you need to solve for long-term storage and transportation of hydrogen (if you produce it centrally) or produce it in-situ, and lose out on a good chunk of the efficiencies of centralisation you hope to gain.

Fuel cells (and the "hydrogen economy" in general) are bunk

Re:Hydrogen centralizes the pollution for remediat (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39271627)

I'm all for electric cars, but do you really think it's any easier to solve the "how do you recharge an electric car in the amount of time it takes to refuel a fossil fuel powered car?" problem than the "long-term storage and transportation of hydrogen" problem?

Re:Hydrogen centralizes the pollution for remediat (1)

LordLucless (582312) | more than 2 years ago | (#39271773)

No, which is why I'd go for the stop-and-swap model. With standardization and large scale adoption, you should be able to get to a point where you drive in, engage the mechanism, and drive out again with a new battery, in around the same timeframe it takes to pump a tankfull now.

Re:Hydrogen centralizes the pollution for remediat (1)

perpenso (1613749) | more than 2 years ago | (#39272029)

No, which is why I'd go for the stop-and-swap model. With standardization and large scale adoption, you should be able to get to a point where you drive in, engage the mechanism, and drive out again with a new battery, in around the same timeframe it takes to pump a tankfull now.

The Chevy Volt has a battery pack weighing over 400 pounds and it is a hybrid, not an all electric. The 400+ lb battery pack gets you 50 miles.

The all electric Nissan Leaf has a batter pack weighing over 600 pounds and it gets you 73 miles.

This is not self serve, this is get in line for the fork lift stuff.

Re:Hydrogen centralizes the pollution for remediat (2)

LordLucless (582312) | more than 2 years ago | (#39272279)

Which is why I said "engage the mechanism", not "haul it out, and slot the new one in". Once there's enough cars on the road to justify it, you can do much better than a forklift.

Re:Hydrogen centralizes the pollution for remediat (2)

Sulphur (1548251) | more than 2 years ago | (#39272237)

No, which is why I'd go for the stop-and-swap model. With standardization and large scale adoption, you should be able to get to a point where you drive in, engage the mechanism, and drive out again with a new battery, in around the same timeframe it takes to pump a tankfull now.

I'm a little short on cash right now, so I'll take half a battery.

Re:Hydrogen centralizes the pollution for remediat (1)

Pence128 (1389345) | more than 2 years ago | (#39272889)

A half charged battery? Sure. You must be really short if you can't afford another $5 for a full one though.

Re:Hydrogen centralizes the pollution for remediat (4, Insightful)

perpenso (1613749) | more than 2 years ago | (#39271915)

I don't think it is quite that simple. Hydrogen moves the pollution from many mobile sources, cars, to a very small number of non-mobile sources, power generation stations.

You know what also does that? Electric cars. And without the extra, extremely inefficient electrolysis step.

Again, it is not that simple. You forgot about the batteries. Import lithium from distant lands, manufacture batteries, use batteries, recycle/dispose of batteries in the proper manner, by expensive new batteries, ...
Now ad downtime for charging.

All electric is not a panacea. It has its own set of issues and requires some technical advances.

Hydrogen has an advantage in that it reuses existing internal combustion technology. Minor modifications plus greater power output. Its issues are more infrastructure related. Of course all electric will need new infrastructure as well, chargers in parking lots, etc

Re:Hydrogen centralizes the pollution for remediat (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39272429)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_production
5% of H2 is produced with electrolysis.
Thus it is more Dinosaurs -> Hydrogen -> Vroom.

Re:Hydrogen centralizes the pollution for remediat (1)

cmdr_tofu (826352) | more than 2 years ago | (#39273585)

My vision is Renewable->Electricity+Water->Hydrogen->Hydrogen blimp fuel Transportation network->Electricity and Vroom!

Coal power is awful, but there is no reason we couldn't use the existing petroleum style of distribution to move hydrogen (although blimps are more fun than Exxon Valdez!)

Re:Hydrogen centralizes the pollution for remediat (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39273871)

(although blimps are more fun than Exxon Valdez!)

Oh, the humanity!

Re:Hydrogen centralizes the pollution for remediat (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39273703)

No no no, ponies and rainbows -> hydrogen -> happiness

but really,m hydrogen is made by stripping the hydrogen off hydrocarbons.
Fuel Cell: Dinosaur+Steam -> Hydrogen -> Vroom.

Re:Hydrogen centralizes the pollution for remediat (1)

cmdr_tofu (826352) | more than 2 years ago | (#39273539)

Even better hydrogen generation can be done where there is vast quantity of renewable resources. I'm not an energy expert, but in my imagination I see use harnessing energy from wave currents and using it to generate hydrogen, fill blimps and ship hydrogen to places that need power. And also there are a lot of islands that are geothermal hotspots with access to lots of volcanic energy and ocean water.

But Ociffer... (2)

Kojow777 (929199) | more than 2 years ago | (#39271081)

Officer: So, what caused you to get into an accident?
Driver: Well, you see there was this invisible car...

It is no good .... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39271091)

It is no good until I can install it on my Bird of Prey.....

Re:It is no good .... (1)

mrxak (727974) | more than 2 years ago | (#39272667)

It's a neat trick, but of course it has its limitations. It only works from the right angle, and even then it's not perfect because it relies on a camera on the other side of the car which has a different perspective than your eyes. For land vehicles, though, say military vehicles coming right at you, it might be enough to fool you from far enough away, provided you're using sight alone on watch duty, and not radar, sonar, thermal, or anything like that.

Of course, cloaking devices are particularly worthless in space, since some spectrum of EM will always be leaking out to give it away, if for no other reason than spaceships are hotter than space. Sorry to ruin your plans, but you're not going to want one on your Bird of Prey.

Plus, somebody will set up a tachyon net at the neutral zone so your cloaked fleet can't sneak past without being detected.

Re:It is no good .... (3, Interesting)

C0vardeAn0nim0 (232451) | more than 2 years ago | (#39273339)

russians are testing a thermal camouflage for tanks. it uses infrared cameras to measure the temperature of objects (ground, buildings, trees, etc) surrounding the tanks, then send a command to thermal plates all around the the vehicle to match the measurements. this effectively makes the tank invisible to infrared devices, including night vision goggles.

imagine an american soldier, after being blasted by that tank saying as he dies: "the goggles, they do nothing!"

Terminology (5, Insightful)

subreality (157447) | more than 2 years ago | (#39271151)

A proper cloaking device isn't just a flat image of the surroundings; it would need to be holographic so it would look right from any angle.

I would call this "adaptive camouflage", and it's doing a damned good job at that.

Re:Terminology (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39272723)

The only reason it looks so good is that they took good care to have the car always perpendicular to the camera (that was used to shoot the video, not the one on the car). Go a bit to the left or the right and the illusion is shattered. And even in this narrow domain they positioned the camera wrongly in the vertical direction; objects close by look okay but as you get further away there is sky on the leds where there should be ground.
Still, I'm not saying there couldn't be military applications. For example, when you're in a forest where it doesn't matter that much which particular piece of bush you display to hide your contours, a system like this (perhaps with slightly better resolution) will do fine. Whether it's worth it however is debatable since current passive camouflage is doing a reasonable job already.

Fugly! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39271185)

Of course they have to cloak it, that car is terrifyingly ugly! If I was Mercedes I'd want to hide that mistake too. Wow, that's the the worst looking car thank thankfully most people will never see. Wow, it's just awful. Damn!

Re:Fugly! (3, Funny)

Sneeka2 (782894) | more than 2 years ago | (#39271395)

I may be wrong, but I'm sensing that you may not particularly like this car.
That may just be me reading too much between your lines though, I tend to do this sometimes.
Sorry if I misunderstood you.

Re:Fugly! (2)

datavirtue (1104259) | more than 2 years ago | (#39271497)

Agreed, their small cars are ugly as sin. They are like a Hyundai with a big fat Benz emblem on the front and a cool grill.

Re:Fugly! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39273607)

On the other hand, I don't know why they don't put their star on the front of the Smart (which is a joint venture between Daimler-Benz and Swatch, of all things). They'd instantly sell zillions of them in crowded Asian cities like Singapore, whose people are obsessed with the Mercedes brand, but whose small size, crowded streets, and astonishingly high import duties and engine size-dependent road taxes make it less than an ideal place in which to own, say, a big S-Class.

Re:Fugly! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39273665)

That is the most thought provoking, interesting, and informative comment I have ever read. My dearest and sincerest hopes and dreams have been fulfilled as I now have someone to look up to. I could never do justice to the debt of gratitude I now owe you.

I am born anew in the coolness of this. (1)

Brannon (221550) | more than 2 years ago | (#39271301)

I want one.

Re:I am born anew in the coolness of this. (-1, Flamebait)

datavirtue (1104259) | more than 2 years ago | (#39271557)

Seriously? I have found that the IQ is in direct relation to the ID number of a slashdotter on a parabolic curve from origin. I call it the "lamer curve."

Top Gear already did this (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39271357)

Yeah those folks asked "how hard can it be" and pulled it off before fancy dancy German Engineers.

Uhm... (1)

Black Parrot (19622) | more than 2 years ago | (#39271417)

Just what I want - a Merc that people can't see in the parking lot.

OTOH, I guess scratches wouldn't matter so much on an invisible car.

Ok, yeah, that's cool, but... (5, Funny)

element-o.p. (939033) | more than 2 years ago | (#39271521)

Ok, yeah, that's cool, but what you really need is an airship covered with light emitting diodes across one side because then you could have...

...wait for it...

...a LED Zeppelin!

Re:Ok, yeah, that's cool, but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39273037)

the interesting thing is, if you did make a blimp with a panel of this on the bottom that covered the footprint of the blimp and covered the sides, you could have a pretty effective visual cloak. though I'm guessing it would have a radar signature the size of texas.

Someone made an Abrams do this (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39271723)

And in infra-red, too!

Don't get run over by the invisible tank. Hopefully they haven't made a hybrid (they probably have).

Can I buy this without the car? (1)

MobyDisk (75490) | more than 2 years ago | (#39271781)

I've wanted to do this since I was a kid! Awesome! Sometimes it takes someone with a big budget and reason to waste it to do something cool like this. Can I buy one of these, but hold the car?

What's point? (0)

antdude (79039) | more than 2 years ago | (#39271849)

What's the pointing of cloaking cars? It would make sense for military, but for average drivers? :P

Re:What's point? (1)

ErikZ (55491) | more than 2 years ago | (#39273721)

It's a fantastic attraction drawing attention to the cutting edge research and development that Mercedes is doing.

You might as well ask "What's the point of all these hot chicks at the auto show?"

If it bleeds, we can kill it. (1)

mug funky (910186) | more than 2 years ago | (#39271879)

this thing is zero emissions. it doesn't bleed. we can't kill it.

and this year it grows hot...

Reminds me (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39271911)

There was an episode of the X-files where some guy finds a genie, and he wishes for the power to turn invisible. He promptly goes outside with his new power, and gets hit by a truck.

I can picture a similar situation happening here.

Re:Reminds me (1)

St.Creed (853824) | more than 2 years ago | (#39272249)

That was a fun episode. It reminded me of the saying "beware of what you wish for - it might come true."

Hydrogen? (1)

rrohbeck (944847) | more than 2 years ago | (#39271945)

While this is a cool gag, didn't they get the memo that hydrogen is inefficient compared to batteries and that methane is much easier/cheaper to work with if you really want to run fuel cells?
It probably took them a couple of years to get hydrogen to work, at least in a small car. I guess we'll hear as much about it as of the hydrogen BWM 7-series.

Re:Hydrogen? (1)

Asic Eng (193332) | more than 2 years ago | (#39272865)

There seems to have been some breakthrough regarding hydrogen tanks recently. BMW had stopped their development, but they've restarted it, too.

Sorry, I don't have a cite but I'm in automotive and got this through the grapevine. Could be because of this research [physorg.com].

Seems like a safe, sensible idea. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39271983)

Pedestrians... should cross the road when they don't see a an amorphous Predator rippling effect approaching.

Excellent Halloween Costume . . . (4, Interesting)

PolygamousRanchKid (1290638) | more than 2 years ago | (#39272123)

1) Attach one tablet to your stomach and one to your back.
2) Open up a camera chat between them.
3) Put on a T-shirt with one bloody hole on the front, and one on the back, directly over the tablets.
4) It looks like someone shot a hole through you!
5) No profit, but plenty of laughs.

Re:Excellent Halloween Costume . . . (2)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39272569)

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-20127676-71/the-bloody-incredible-ipad-halloween-costume/

That's not how science works (1)

atari2600a (1892574) | more than 2 years ago | (#39272497)

The car has no emissions but you're still paying for the resources that go into the fuel cells (manufacture, transportation) plus the efficiency of the fuel cells themselves which isn't much more efficient than diesel, which in the end makes absolutely no sense on a giant fucking luxury executive car (but would on the other hand for, say, a sports car or subcompact). Long story short: get the diesel model & pour SVO into it if you're going to be picky, but save the beta-stage energy storage mediums for the real cars, not the fucking land-ships.

Re:That's not how science works (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39273805)

The car has no emissions but you're still paying for the resources that go into the fuel cells (manufacture, transportation) plus the efficiency of the fuel cells themselves which isn't much more efficient than diesel, which in the end makes absolutely no sense on a giant fucking luxury executive car (but would on the other hand for, say, a sports car or subcompact). Long story short: get the diesel model & pour SVO into it if you're going to be picky, but save the beta-stage energy storage mediums for the real cars, not the fucking land-ships.

But fuel cells have the added benefit over diesel that the exhaust is not a carcinogen.
http://oehha.ca.gov/public_info/facts/dieselfacts.html
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46609036/ns/health-cancer/t/heavy-diesel-exhaust-linked-lung-cancer/

Someone please explain (1)

Provocateur (133110) | more than 2 years ago | (#39272659)

How is it able to capture or reflect the people looking at the car if the cameras are mounted on the other side (the uncovered side)? I wasn't really able to see much (probably intentionally shown as a glance) of the rig, but I think I saw a girl pass by behind the gear.

Mercedes Predator (2)

Dude163299 (906461) | more than 2 years ago | (#39273241)

When will this hit the market I think we all need to know when to stop carrying weapons so they won't run us over for sport.

Mall Trek: The Next Generation (1)

Guppy (12314) | more than 2 years ago | (#39274019)

Cpt. Picard: "This is Captain Picard of the U.S.S. Minivan. Stardate 1231.4. Our voyage to the Walmart parking lot has thus far been uneventful. According to our orders, we are to rendevouz with Federation shoppers at--"

[Explosion. Ships rocks violently.]

Cmdr Riker: "Romulan Beemah decloaking off the starboard bow! ALL HANDS BATTLE STATIONS! [matthewbarr.co.uk]"

Poor gag...... (1)

olahaye74 (801533) | more than 2 years ago | (#39274089)

LOL. Imagine all cars become invisible.... And you want to reduce the accident rate? BAD GAG.

Why not an advertising campaign based on alcohol? after all it's not worse in terms of safety.....
With alchool based fuel car, you can drive and drink at the same time... BAD GAG.

Can't they be more imaginative?

Or you could do it at home on your PC (1)

Snaller (147050) | more than 2 years ago | (#39274239)

Using something like Hitfilm Ultimate.

Seriously, I don't believe this is real.

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