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Apple Unveils New iPad

samzenpus posted more than 2 years ago | from the new-and-improved dept.

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adeelarshad82 writes "As expected, Apple announced the new iPad complete with a Retina Display, quad-core processor, 4G LTE, and an improved camera. The new iPad will run the rumored A5X processor, which according to Apple will provide four times the performance of the Tegra 3. The revamped tablet will also include a 2048-by-1536 display, apparently the most in any mobile device. And finally with 4G LTE, the new iPad will provide up to 73 Mbps download speeds; partners for which include Verizon, Rogers, Bell, Telus, and AT&T."

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Still don't want one (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39277745)

I want a keyboard.

Re:Still don't want one (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39277785)

Cool story, bro.

Re:Still don't want one (1, Funny)

registrations_suck (1075251) | more than 2 years ago | (#39277913)

Amen. I'm a long time Apple fan - ran UNIX on my Mac II back in '89 and ever since - but if one has a laptop, I dunno why one would need a tablet. I don't see the point. But then again, I don't see the point of iPhones either. What I'd really like to see is an Apple-branded cell phone jammer.

Re:Still don't want one (5, Insightful)

ColdWetDog (752185) | more than 2 years ago | (#39278281)

So don't buy one. Geez. I don't have a need for a dump truck, a B-52 or a complete set of Star Wars action figures, but I don't particularly care if other people find them interesting or useful.

Do you log into the American Dolls website to say you don't want one of those either?

Re:Still don't want one (3, Insightful)

CRCulver (715279) | more than 2 years ago | (#39277971)

I want a keyboard.

Meh, content creation is sooooo passé. All the cool kids today are consuming content provided by others, such as large media conglomerates desperate to get you to download their app. Don't you want to be cool?

Re:Still don't want one (2)

Americano (920576) | more than 2 years ago | (#39278267)

If only they'd just make it compatible with every bluetooth keyboard on the market.

*sigh*

If only.

yawn (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39277747)

is it still hundreds of dollars?

Re:yawn (2, Funny)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | more than 2 years ago | (#39277835)

The sweat, blood and tears of overworked Chinese college interns isn't cheap you know.

Re:yawn (2)

walterbyrd (182728) | more than 2 years ago | (#39278121)

Naw, it's the "best and brightest" execs that are the real expense. Foxconn workers get $0.35 an hour while the execs get $100 million bonuses.

Re:yawn (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39278283)

Which is fine. You should be paid according to what it costs to replace you. I don't see any other "best and brightest execs" delivering one solid, highly-coveted product after another like this, do you?

Meanwhile the line of people applying to work on the assembly line is 500 deep. You'd think that sort of wage-slavery was actually better than spending all day up to your armpits in a rice paddy, or something. Isn't capitalism funny?

Re:yawn (2)

localman57 (1340533) | more than 2 years ago | (#39277839)

is it still hundreds of dollars?

Yes, but adjusted for inflation, that actually makes it cheaper than its predecessors.

Re:yawn (1)

jbeaupre (752124) | more than 2 years ago | (#39278099)

You still sacrifice just as much of your soul.

But adjusted for inflation, that also makes it cheaper than its predecessors.

Re:yawn (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39277865)

They have these things called "jobs." You should look into that.

Re:yawn (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39277951)

They have these things called "jobs." You should look into that.

Not any more. I'm surprised you didn't see the coverage. It was everywhere. I wish Dennis Ritchie had gotten as much.

Hipsters ASSEMBLE (5, Funny)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | more than 2 years ago | (#39277751)

Camp in line to receive the latest helping of mana!

Re:Hipsters ASSEMBLE (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39277831)

Geek filth assemble to bash things as they continue to believe their own hype and not realize everyone hates their stinking asses.

almost there... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39277757)

techgasm.

Well... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39277759)

I for one hate apple, but if this comes at a nice price I'm buying a few to use solely as monitors. Or does anyone knows of displays of comparable quality (we still have to see this one), size and resolution?

Re:Well... (1)

UnknowingFool (672806) | more than 2 years ago | (#39277869)

It is the same base price as the iPad 1 and 2: $499 for base. $629, $729, $829 for higher capacity, 4G radio options. The overall size is still 9.7" diagonal so I don't think it's great as a monitor.

Nice upgrade, but no big surprises in the new iPad (4, Interesting)

xmas2003 (739875) | more than 2 years ago | (#39277765)

Glad to see this finally announced/released and while I'd love to exchange for my iPad2, I don't see a compelling reason to upgrade. Without Steve Jobs doing the dramatics, watching the Live Blog [engadget.com] was almost as exciting as Watching Grass Grow. [watching-grass-grow.com]

Re:Nice upgrade, but no big surprises in the new i (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39277825)

Yeah, this is the worst "Shut up and take my money" keynote I've ever seen. Automatic local white balance? Really? How about mentioning when preorders will be accepted on the site?

Re:Nice upgrade, but no big surprises in the new i (2)

firex726 (1188453) | more than 2 years ago | (#39278015)

Seriously, do they really think anyone who would care about white balance would actually use an iPad as a camera?
First question after seeing this was "When can I order?".

Re:Nice upgrade, but no big surprises in the new i (1)

alen (225700) | more than 2 years ago | (#39278219)

if you have one you're going to take it places like family functions and vacations so that it will probable be in your hands unlike your phone which may be useless outside the US.

so you will use the ipad like a camera/camcorder

Re:Nice upgrade, but no big surprises in the new i (5, Interesting)

BasilBrush (643681) | more than 2 years ago | (#39278305)

Everyone who ever took a photo cares about white balance. They might not know the phrase white balance. But they care if the pictures look too orangey or too blue. And auto white balance means that problem is mostly fixed without ever having to learn what white balance means.

Re:Nice upgrade, but no big surprises in the new i (2)

thesandtiger (819476) | more than 2 years ago | (#39277987)

Nothing compelling to upgrade for me, but I do know a few people who didn't like the display in the 2 and who will buy a 3 now as a first time adopter.

From the iPad 1 to the iPad 2 there was the addition of the cameras and a substantial boost to power - that was compelling enough for me.

I'm trying to think of what would be a compelling upgrade for me from my iPad 2 and there really isn't much I can think of. Maybe the generation after this one will have a sufficient boost to power, battery life and other features to get me interested, but I dunno.

Re:Nice upgrade, but no big surprises in the new i (2)

localman57 (1340533) | more than 2 years ago | (#39278195)

I'm trying to think of what would be a compelling upgrade for me from my iPad 2 and there really isn't much I can think of. Maybe the generation after this one will have a sufficient boost to power, battery life and other features to get me interested, but I dunno.

At some point, they're going to hit the "Good Enough" plateau that has plagued the mainstream PC business. And they'll saturate the market of likely buyers. At that point the market will change into two separate segments:

People who are upgrading simply because the Lithium battery pack is shot. The goal with these people will be to keep them from defecting to Android or Windows.


An entry level market that we haven't seen yet (Kindle Fire territory), consisting of children and people in developing markets.

Re:Nice upgrade, but no big surprises in the new i (5, Insightful)

BasilBrush (643681) | more than 2 years ago | (#39278223)

That's OK. iPad is still in the rapid growth phase. They need to appeal to people who don't yet have an iPad, not people who already have a slightly older model.

Not quad core processor (1)

UnknowingFool (672806) | more than 2 years ago | (#39277797)

The new iPad will use the A5X which is dual core but will have a quad core GPU from PowerVR. It appears this is Apple's solution to double the resolution is to have each core handle half of the screen. It's like Crossfire/SLI.

Re:Not quad core processor (1)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | more than 2 years ago | (#39278025)

There is a Crossfire/SLI mode like this but the most efficient and common one is to allow GPUs to render alternating frames.

Re:Not quad core processor (4, Informative)

Tr3vin (1220548) | more than 2 years ago | (#39278187)

But in the mobile world, most rendering is done through tile-based deferred rendering. The frame-buffer was already being split up during rendering, so having cores work in parallel isn't that big of a change.

Someone take that awesome display... (4, Interesting)

bemymonkey (1244086) | more than 2 years ago | (#39277811)

And put it in a netbook with a Thinkpad-style trackpoint... I'd buy that right away.

Re:Someone take that awesome display... (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39277967)

Hell, I hate everything Apple but I'm still going to buy one just to read technical papers on. I've been waiting for a near-300 dpi reader device for ages.

Re:Someone take that awesome display... (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39278029)

This this this this this.
Why do all notebook displays suck in dpi?

73mbps... (5, Insightful)

Professr3 (670356) | more than 2 years ago | (#39277821)

Wow! You'll be able to reach your 3GB cap in 5.19 minutes! What'll you do for the rest of the month? :D

73mbps != 4G (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39278027)

You will never get that speed on the device. I have a 4G LTE cell phone and it doesn't even get 10% of that speed.

Hell it shouldn't even be allowed to be called 4G. The 4G standard is 100Mbps for high mobility devices (cellphones in cars) and 1Gbps for low mobility devices (people walking down the street or in their homes). This is a fraud in advertising.

Re:73mbps != 4G (4, Informative)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | more than 2 years ago | (#39278159)

Hell it shouldn't even be allowed to be called 4G.

That's what the standards body thought too, but the telcos started marketing 3.5G as 4G and the standards body did the worst possible thing and caved.

Re:73mbps != 4G (1)

alen (225700) | more than 2 years ago | (#39278167)

100mbps is the ideal speed in a lab with no other electronic noise. in the real world there are thousands of devices around you broadcasting on frequencies close to yours that your phone has to spend time canceling out. as well as people broadcasting on your frequencies.

it's like back in the world of layer 1 hubs

Retina Display? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39277833)

So it displays a picture of the retina? I thought it would be cool if it could scan your retina. I'm sure its another feature that apple will patent and charge us more for. Hers your own retina, its our technology that allowed us to take a picture of it and show it to you. Either way Apple fans will buy it.

Re:Retina Display? (0)

firex726 (1188453) | more than 2 years ago | (#39278063)

Retina Display has been out for a while. (iPhone 4?)
Bascially the pixels are so small you cannot easily distinguish one from another. Makes it look a lot more sharp then previous models.

73 Mbps and monthly limits (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39277845)

so, that way, you can reach your monthly limit in under 6 minutes with the AT&T 3 Gig limit.

Re:73 Mbps and monthly limits (1)

jesseck (942036) | more than 2 years ago | (#39277965)

Apple and AT&T believes the market for this tablet has the disposable income for the data overages.

Re:73 Mbps and monthly limits (2)

firex726 (1188453) | more than 2 years ago | (#39278089)

That's the kicker.
You got manufacturers talking about how fast everything is, but ISP's continually curtailing that speed.

Queue the stupid (0, Flamebait)

medcalf (68293) | more than 2 years ago | (#39277849)

1. Apple sucks. Apple fanbois suck. Etc

2. Smaller screen than my desktop monitor. Not as many buttons as a Galaxy Tab. Lame.

3. (drooling) You had me at "Apple".

Re:Queue the stupid (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39277975)

Apple is just another vendor of overpriced status-symbol objects with a huge marketing budget. And its customers are just another set of materialists whose identities are based on buying the more expensive version of everything.

Re:Queue the stupid (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39278165)

Translation: "I'm broke. Somebody please buy me one of these."

Finally, someone is innovating (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39277855)

They managed to pack a 5 megapixel camera, into that tiny tablet! Wow, we wouldn't have dreamed that was possible back when the iPad 2 came out. It's amazing how far we have come in a year.

Yes, I bought an iPad 2 nearly 3 months ago and yes, I am bitterly disappointed that I didn't think to consider how shitty the camera was before making my decision. Hindsight is 20/20, even if the camera on my piece of shit iPad 2 isn't.

Re:Finally, someone is innovating (1, Informative)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | more than 2 years ago | (#39278249)

They managed to pack a 5 megapixel camera, into that tiny tablet! Wow, we wouldn't have dreamed that was possible back when the iPad 2 came out.

You're right, I wouldn't, because my N900 had already been packing a 5.2MP camera for over a year at the time.

But kudos to Apple for being the first to bring such an amazing camera to a mobile device.

Thicker and heavier than the iPad 2 (2, Interesting)

dingo_kinznerhook (1544443) | more than 2 years ago | (#39277859)

It's a fraction of a millimeter thicker than the iPad 2 and .7 pounds heavier. I guess the product wasn't going to go on getting thinner and lighter asymptotically.

Re:Thicker and heavier than the iPad 2 (5, Informative)

dingo_kinznerhook (1544443) | more than 2 years ago | (#39277895)

0.07 pounds heavier. I stand corrected.

Re:Thicker and heavier than the iPad 2 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39277931)

Probably needed a beefier battery to maintain the same runtime.

Port (0, Troll)

Chemisor (97276) | more than 2 years ago | (#39277871)

Now, if only someone could get Android to run on it, I'd buy it in a second.

Re:Port (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39278199)

Well, we can assume that we'll see all of those iPhoto features and the like in Android in a few weeks or months, including the new editing gestures. Those were all super obvious, they just hadn't been implemented yet.

glossy or matte (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39277893)

Is the screen glossy or matte?

Upgraded Apple TV announced (5, Informative)

UnknowingFool (672806) | more than 2 years ago | (#39277907)

Apple also announced a new Apple TV that will have 1080p for the same price as the current generation: $99. I didn't read any other changes.

Re:Upgraded Apple TV announced (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39277981)

Thanks, I thought I was the only one on Earth waiting for this.

Bandwidth (5, Funny)

girlintraining (1395911) | more than 2 years ago | (#39277917)

I can just see it now. Taking home the new ipad3, turning it on for the first time, excited for the fast download speed and massive processor, and the first message that appears:

You have exceeded your bandwidth quota for the month. All network apps disabled

Re:Bandwidth (2, Informative)

UnknowingFool (672806) | more than 2 years ago | (#39278001)

Well if you are at home, you would use your home wi-fi not 3G/4G. And isn't this a negative with all 4G devices?

Re:Bandwidth (1)

EvilBudMan (588716) | more than 2 years ago | (#39278257)

If the phone companies were really smart they would put 4G out in the sticks where at least it would be cheaper and faster than a satellite connection.

Re:Bandwidth (1)

Jeremi (14640) | more than 2 years ago | (#39278107)

Taking home the new ipad3, turning it on for the first time, excited for the fast download speed and massive processor, and the first message that appears: You have exceeded your bandwidth quota for the month. All network apps disabled

At the risk of pointing out the obvious, just because you can download a lot of data quickly doesn't mean you have to, and it definitely doesn't mean the device will automatically do that when you power it on.

Re:Bandwidth (1)

helix2301 (1105613) | more than 2 years ago | (#39278147)

I am more excited about the new iOS

Re:Bandwidth (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39278241)

Why? I don't see anything that interesting in iOS 5.1, unless I missed something?

Re:Bandwidth (1)

Kenja (541830) | more than 2 years ago | (#39278251)

From all reports iOS 5.1 does not address the battery life issues that 5 introduced. New features are nifty, but there are still some basics that they seem to be having issues with.

Re:Bandwidth (1)

EvilBudMan (588716) | more than 2 years ago | (#39278235)

That would be cool if they did that so you wouldn't get burnt. AT&T are you listening here? Not much 4G with them but I think the plans kick up somewhat but not enough.

Not on the Apple website yet!?! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39277927)

Maybe I'm wrong, but every Apple announcement I've seen has been up on their website within minutes, but this is nowhere to be found.

Re:Not on the Apple website yet!?! (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39277979)

They're too busy rattling on about pointless bullshit to bother telling people when/how they can preorder. Bright.

That DISPLAY!!! (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39277939)

Put it in 14 inch laptops
or atleast start putting 1920*1200 displays in 14inch laptops
This launch proves that the display isnt exorbitantly expensive or impossible to manufacture
And a monitor with a similar resolution (though larger size) display costs 2x the cost of the iPad3

Re:That DISPLAY!!! (2)

UnknowingFool (672806) | more than 2 years ago | (#39278155)

Yes and no. I expect that Apple has quietly secured the majority of the manufacturing facilities for that display to keep their costs down. Competitors will have the display later and more expensive. Also laptops have a 16:9 aspect and are not likely to migrate back to a 4:3 display.

siri (5, Insightful)

Demoknight (66150) | more than 2 years ago | (#39277953)

I am pretty surprised that siri is not fully implemented on this device. it is only being used for dictation

Father Steve's final message (2, Funny)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 2 years ago | (#39277969)

Buy the latest model or be excommunicated and banned from the Store. Go forth and buy, my children.

The Screen (4, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39278033)

That screen is just incredible. I mean, here I am working on a dual monitor setup - two 22" 1680x1050 monitors, side by side. That's about 3.5 megapixels. But along comes the new iPad, with a 3 megapixel screen in a 10" form factor - 85% of the pixels in about 15% of the area. Crazy. I'm not planning on buying one right now (already have iPad 1, which at this point I'll use until it dies), but I'm really glad that somebody is pushing screen resolutions above the relatively low 1080p we seem to be stuck with today on virtually every LCD.

I guess it's time (1, Flamebait)

baenpb (1343241) | more than 2 years ago | (#39278051)

for everyone to sell their old iPad! My biggest pet peeve, it's the most expensive "disposable" personal electronic device. It seems like it's embarrassing to be seen with the not-quite-latest version. (flamebait, i apologize.)

the new ipad (5, Insightful)

Twillerror (536681) | more than 2 years ago | (#39278059)

Is literally the new name. Am I the only one that thinks this is lame. Would Steve have ever okay this?

As if Millions of voices suddenly cried out in (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39278081)

terror, and were suddenly silenced.
"BACK TO WORK"
- foxconn

Tim Cook is no Steve Jobs... (4, Interesting)

internet-redstar (552612) | more than 2 years ago | (#39278113)

... no he is no Steve Jobs, he even forgot to tell the public WHAT THE NEW IPAD IS CALLED! ... ipad 3, ipad HD? iPad Retina? He could have done better!

Hopefully this will usher in higher-res monitors (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39278129)

I'm just hoping I'll finally be able to get a monitor with a similar resolution for a reasonable price. If Apple can make a 10" display with that many pixels, plus other computer guts, for $500, I don't think a 22-24" monitor with that resolution for $500 is too much to ask.

Name (1)

Dan East (318230) | more than 2 years ago | (#39278183)

So what is apple calling it? There were rumors it would be called the iPad HD. So it is it iPad 3, iPad HD, iPad 4G, or just iPad (3rd gen)?

New iPad (-1, Troll)

Murdoch5 (1563847) | more than 2 years ago | (#39278191)

Great a thinner, higher resolution tablet which still doesn't come close to matching the playbook. In this case sales doesn't equal quality!
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