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Ask Slashdot: Who Has Been Sued By the RIAA?

samzenpus posted more than 2 years ago | from the naughty-list dept.

Piracy 407

First time accepted submitter blackfrancis75 writes "We keep hearing different figures quoting the thousands of people who've been sued by RIAA for illegally downloading online music, but I don't know anyone personally to whom it's happened. In fact it seems no-one I know knows anyone to whom it happened. Do you know anyone who was sued for 'piracy', or were you sued yourself? What was your experience?"

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i was (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39283467)

I was. They bankrupted me.

They don't need to sue you ... (5, Interesting)

Taco Cowboy (5327) | more than 2 years ago | (#39283515)

... all they need to do is to claim everything, including birdsongs, belongs to them

http://yro.slashdot.org/story/12/02/26/2141246/youtube-identifies-birdsong-as-copyrighted-music [slashdot.org]

Not sued, but "contacted. (5, Informative)

suso (153703) | more than 2 years ago | (#39283663)

I wasn't sued, but I was one of the first to receive a cease and desist letter from them back in 1998. I was a student at Indiana University and ran a server [suso.com] there in my dorm room which hosted one of my friend's website who had copyrighted "top 40" mp3s on it. Other than the university lightly punishing me, nothing really came of it.

Re:Not sued, but "contacted. (5, Informative)

Myopic (18616) | more than 2 years ago | (#39283901)

Yeah. A couple years ago I got a cease and desist letter. It was hilarious. I lived in an apartment building and ran an intentionally open wireless network. (I had one private with password, one public with no password. I did this as an anonymous favor to my building mates.) One day I got a letter threatening action if I didn't stop downloading, or whatever, and the specific movie they were complaining about was "I Love You, Man".

Now listen to me. Listen carefully. I would never, ever, not in a million years, be interested in "I Love You, Man". I certainly was downloading other things, but there is no way that I would have ever searched for that movie, let alone spent any effort to pirate it. Never.

So, I just ignored the fucking letter. I didn't close my wireless, I didn't warn my neighbors, and I never got another letter. Fuck them. I wasn't very afraid of a lawsuit (because they are rare), and in the unlikely scenario of being sued, I could be another good example of why an IP address does not identify a human being. It would have been a ton of hassle, and I hate hassle, but I'm also just the right kind of asshole to push back against them, if it ever came to that.

However, if they caught me downloading stuff that I actually did download, well then I'd probably push back a little, and then settle. You do the crime, you pay the dime.

Re:Not sued, but "contacted. (1)

sinnergy (4787) | more than 2 years ago | (#39283945)

I wish I had mine from late 1996 still. P-100 with a 1 gig drive (wooo!) and 16 megs of ram running NT 3.5.1 and ZBserver with custom Perl scripts running as an ATM node on a 655 Mbps network that was down 60% of the time.

Ah those were the days.

Re:i was (1)

poetmatt (793785) | more than 2 years ago | (#39283919)

You can't afford $0? $0 bankrupted you? Mod funny but informative, certainly not.

That's the actual value, in contrast to their settlement letters.

I've been wondering if they'd ever get brazen enough to send me one but then I remembered that private trackers + peerblock generally = you'll never see a letter in your lifetime.

Re:i was (1)

psych0sis (1459509) | more than 2 years ago | (#39284001)

my question is... where do you find/get access to these trackers? :/

Legal Threats (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39283477)

I've been sent 2 or 3 legal threats from copyright holders and my ISP over the years. I ignored them and nothing ever happened.

Re:Legal Threats (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39283585)

Same here. Tons of threats, no action.

Re:Legal Threats (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39284009)

Not RIAA, but I know at least one guy that was hit with a huge fine ("settlement") over a movie download. A really shitty movie his son downloaded, at that.

I once got a call from my ISP about it, and even got notices at our workplace over it.

Always movie stuff though... never music.

Re:Legal Threats (2)

Toam (1134401) | more than 2 years ago | (#39283737)

I'm generally ignorant to this issue, but I've always wondered how they would be persued...

I've had a few of those come to my household in the past, when I've been living in share houses. The notice would come to the person whos name was on the internet connection, but you might have 4 people using that internet connection, plus if its a wireless connection who is to say that those pesky neighbours haven't cracked your security?

What would the procedure be for them to actually follow up on an allegation of copyright infringement under such circumstances?

Re:Legal Threats (3, Insightful)

Baloroth (2370816) | more than 2 years ago | (#39283835)

(Threaten to) sue you and force you to choose between a settlement or crushing legal fees.

They usually prefer the "threaten" route: less paperwork for them when they extort you. Really, of course, it is about creating fear in the hearts of people so they avoid anything the RIAA and kin dislike, so an actual suite is counter-productive and they usually avoid it unless they have a pretty solid case.

Of course, IANAL.

My Experience (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39283489)

When I think of dirty old men, I think of Ike Thomas and when I think about Ike I get a hard on that won’t quit.

Sixty years ago,I worked in what was once my Grandfather’s Greenhouses. Gramps had died a year earlier and Grandma, now in her seventies had been forced to sell to the competition. I got a job with the new owners and mostly worked the range by myself. That summer, they hired a man to help me get the benches ready for the fall planting.

Ike always looked like he was three days from a shave and his whiskers were dirty white under the brim of his battered felt fedora.

He did nott chew tobacco but the corners of his mouth turned down in a way that, at any moment, I expected a trickle of thin, brown juice to creep down his chin. His bushy, brown eyebrows shaded pale, gray eyes.

Old Ike, he extended his hand, lifted his leg like a dog about to mark a bush and let go the loudest fart I ever heard. The old man winked at me. “Ike Thomas is the name and playing pecker’s my game.

I thought he said, “Checkers.” I was nineteen, green as grass. I said, “I was never much good at that game.”

“Now me,” said Ike, “I just love jumping men. . .”

“I’ll bet you do.”

“. . . and grabbing on to their peckers,” said Ike.

“I though we were talking about. . .”

“You like jumping old men’s peckers?”

I shook my head.

“I reckon we’ll have to remedy that.” Ike lifted his right leg and let go another tremendous fart. “He said, “We best be getting to work.”

That summer of1941 was a more innocent time. I learned most of the sex I knew from those little eight pager cartoon booklets of comic-page characters going at it. Young men read them in the privacy of an outside john, played with themselves, by themselves and didn’t brag about it. Sometimes, we got off with a trusted friend and helped each other out.

Under the greenhouse glass, the temperature some times climbed over the hundred degree mark. I had worked stripped to the waist since April and was as browwn as a berry. On only his second day on the job and in the middle of August, Ike wore old fashioned overalls. Those and socks in his hightop work shoes was every stitch he wore. When he bent forward, the bib front billowed out and I could see the white curly hairs on his chest and belly.

“Me? I just love to eat pussy!”I ke licked his lips from corner to corner then stuck it out far enough that the tip could touch the tip of his nose. He said, A man’s not a man till he knows first hand, the flavor of a lady’s pussy.”

“People do that?”

He winked. “Of course the taste of a hard cock ain’t to be sneezed at neither. Now you answer me, yes or no. Does a man’s cock taste salty or not?”

“I never. . .”

“Well, old Ike’s willing to let you find out.”

“No way.”

“Just teasing,” said Ike. “But don’t give me no sass or I’ll show you my ass.” He winked. Might show it to you anyway, if you was to ask.”

“Why would I do that?”

“Curiousity, maybe. I’m guessing you never had a good piece of man ass.”

“I’m no queer.”

“Now don’t be getting judgemental. Enjoying what’s at hand ain’t beiing queer. It’s taking pleasure where you find it with anybody willing.” Ike slipped a handside the side slit of his overalls and I could tell he was fondling and straightening out his cock. Now I admit I got me a hole that satisfied a few guys.”

I swallowed, hard.

Ike winked. “Care to be asshole buddies?”

***

We worked steadily until noon. Ike drew a worn pocket watch from the bib pocket of his loose overalls and croaked, “Bean time. But first its time to reel out our limber hoses and make with the golden arches before lunch.”

I followed I ke to the end of the greenhouse where he stopped at the outside wall of the potting shed. He opened his fly, fished inside, and finger-hooked a soft white penis with a pouting foreskin puckered half an inch past the hidden head.

“Yes sir,” breathed Ike, “this old peter needs some draining.” He exhaled a sigh as a strong, yellow stream splattered against the boards and ran down to soak into the earthen floor.

He caught me looking down at him. He winked. “Like what you’re viewing, Boy?”

I looked away.

“You taking a serious interest in old Ike’s pecker?”

I shook my head.

“Well you just haul out yourn and let old Ike return the compliment.”

Feeling trapped and really having to go, I fumbled at my fly, turned away slightly, withdrew my penis and strained to start.

“Take your time boy. Let it all hang out. Old Ike’s the first to admit that he likes looking at another man’s pecker.” He flicked away the last drop of urine and shook his limp penis vigorously.

I tried not to look interested.

“Yer sir, this old peepee feels so good out, I just might leave it out.” He turned to give me a better view.

“What if somebody walks in?”

Ike shrugged. He looked at my strong yellow stream beating against the boards and moved a step closer. “You got a nice one,boy.”

I glanccd over at him. His cock was definitely larger and beginning to stick straight out. I nodded toward his crotch. “Don’t you think you should put that away?”

“I got me strictly a parlor prick,” said Ike. “Barely measures six inches.” He grinned. “Of course it’s big enough around to make a mouthful.” He ran a thumb and forefinger along its length and drawing his foreskin back enough to expose the tip of the pink head. “Yersiree.” He grinned, revealing nicotine stained teeth. “I t sure feels good, letting the old boy breathe.”

I knew I should button up and move away. I watched his fingers moving up and down the thickening column.

“You like checking out this old man’s cock?”

I nodded. In spite of myself, my cock began to swell.

“Maybe we should have ourselves a little pecker pulling party.” I ke slid his fingers back and forth on his expandingshaft and winked. “I may be old but I’m not against doing some little pud pulling with a friend.”

I shook my head.

“Maybe I ‘ll give my balls some air. Would you like a viewing of old Ike’s hairy balls?”

I swallowed hard and moistened my dry lips.

He opened another button on his fly and pulled out his scrotum. “Good God, It feels good to set ‘em free. Now let’s see yours.”

“Why?”

“Just to show you’re neighborly,” said Ike.

“I don’t think so.” I buttoned up and moved into the potting shed.

Ike followed, his cock and balls protruding from the front of his overalls. “Overlook my informality.” Ike grinned. “As you can see I ain’t bashful.”

I nodded and took my sandwich from the brown paper bag.

“Yessir,” said Ike. “I just might have to have myself an old fashioned peter pulling all by my lonesome. He unhooked a shoulder strap and let his overalls drop around his ankles.

I took a bite of my sandwich but my eyes remained on Ike.

“Yessiree,” said Ike, “I got a good one if I do say so myself. Gets nearly as hard as when I was eighteen. You know why?”

I shook my head.

“Cause I keep excerising him. When I was younger I was pulling on it three time a day. Still like to do him every day I can.”

“Some sayyou’ll go blind if you do that too much.”

“Bull-loney!” Don’t you believe that shit. I been puling my pud for close to fifty years and I didn’t start till I was fifteen.”

I laughed.

“You laughing at my little peter, boy?”

“Your hat.” I pointed to the soiled, brown fedora cocked on his head. That and his overalls draped about his ankles were his only items of apparel. In between was a chest full of gray curly hair, two hairy legs. Smack between them stood an erect, pale white cock with a tip of foreskin still hiding the head.

“I am one hairy S.O.B.,” said Ike.

“I laughed at you wearing nothing but a hat.”

“Covers up my bald spot,” said Ike. “I got more hair on my ass than I got on my head. Want to see?”

“Your head?”

“No, Boy, my hairy ass and around my tight, brown asshole.” He turned, reached back with both hands and parted his ass cheeks to reveal the small, puckered opening. “There it is, Boy, the entrance lots of good feelings. Tell me, Boy, how would you like to put it up old Ike’s ass?”

“I don’t think so.”

“That’d be the best damned piece you ever got.”

“We shouldn’t be talking like this.”

“C’mon now, confess, don’t this make your cock perk up a little bit?”

“I reckon,” I confessed.

“You ever seen an old man’s hard cock before,” asked Ike.

“My grandpa’s when I was twelve or thirteen.”

“How’d that come about?”

He was out in the barn and didn’t know I was around. He dropped his pants. It was real big he did things to it. He saw me and he turned around real fast but I saw it.”

“What did your grandpa do?”

“He said I shouldn’t be watching him doing that. He said something like grandma ‘wouldn’t give him some,’ that morning and that I should get out of there and leave a poor man in peace to do what he had to do.”

“Did you want to join him.”

“I might have if he’d asked. He didn’t.”

“I like showing off my cock,” said Ike. “A hard-on is somethng I always been proud of. A hard-on proves a man’s a man. Makes me feel like a man that can do things.” He looked up at me and winked. “You getting a hard-on fromall this talk, son?”

I nodded and looked away.

“Then maybe you should pull it out and show old Ike what you got.”

“We shouldn’t.”

“Hey. A man’s not a man till he jacked off with a buddy.”

I wanted to but I was as nervous as hell.

Ike grinned and fingered his pecker. “C’mon, Boy, between friends, a little cock showing is perfectly fine. Lets see what you got in the cock and balls department.”

In spite of my reluctance, I felt the stirring in my crotch. I had curiositythat needed satisfying. It had been a long, long time since I had walked in on my grandfather .

“C’mon let’s see it all.”

I shook my head.

“You can join the party anytime, said Ike. “Just drop your pants and pump away.”

I had the urge. There was a tingling in my crotch. My cock was definitely willing and I had a terrible need to ajust myself down there. But my timidity and the strangeness of it all held me back.

Hope you don’t mind if I play out this hand.” I ke grinned. “It feels like I got a winner.”

I stared at his gnarled hand sliding up and down that pale, white column and I could not look away. I wet my lips and shook my head.

Old Ike’s about to spout a geyser.” Ike breathed harder as he winked. “Now if I just had a long finger up my ass. You interested, boy?”

I shook my head.

The first, translucent, white glob crested the top of his cock and and arced to the dirt floor. Ike held his cock at the base with thumb and forefinger and tightened noticably with each throb of ejaculation until he was finished.

I could not believe any man could do what he had done in front of another human being.

Ike sighed with pleasure and licked his fingers. “A man ain’t a man till he’s tasted his own juices.”

He squatted, turned on the faucet and picked up the connected hose. He directed the water between his legs and on to his still dripping prick and milked the few remaing drops of white, sticky stuff into the puddle foming at his feet. “Cool water sure feels good on a cock that just shot its wad,” said Ike.

***

“Cock-tale telling time,” said Old Ike. It was the next day and he rubbed the front of his dirty,worn overalls where his bulge made the fly expand as his fingers smoothed the denim around the outline of his expanding cock.

I wasn’t sure what he had in mind but I knew it wasn’t something my straight-laced Grandma would approve of.

“Don’t you like taking your cock out and jacking it?” Ike licked his lips.

I shook my head in denial.

“Sure you do. A young man in his prime has got to be pulling his pud.”

I stared at his caloused hand moving over the growing bulge at his crotch.

“Like I said,” continued Ike, “I got me barely six inches when he’s standing up.” He winked at me. “How much you got, son?”

“Almost seven inches. . .” I stuttered. “Last time I measured.”

“And I’m betting it feels real good with your fist wrapped around it.”

“I don’t do. . .”

“Everybody does it.” He scratched his balls and said,”I’ll show you mine if you show me yours.” Then, looking me in the eye, he lifted his leg like a dog at a tree and let out a long, noisy fart.

Denying that I jacked off, I said, “I saw yours yesterday.”

“A man has got to take out his pecker every once in a while.” He winked and his fingers played with a button on his fly. Care to join me today?”

“I don’t think so.”

“What’s the matter, boy? You ashamed of what’s hanging ‘tween your skinny legs?”

“It’s not for showing off.”

“That would be so with a crowd of strangers but with a friend, in a friendly showdown, where’s the harm?

“It shouldn’t be shown to other people. My Grandma said that a long time ago when I went to the bathroom against a tree whan I was seven.

“There’s nothing like a joint pulling among friends to seal a friendship,” said Ike.

I don’t think so.” I felt very much, ill at ease.

“Then what the fuck is it for,” demanded the old man. “A good man shares his cock with his friends. How old are you boy?”

“Nineteen almost twenty.”

You ever fucked a woman?”

“No.”

“Ever fucked a man?”

“Of course not.

“Son, you ain’t never lived till you’ve fired your load up a man’s tight ass. “I didn’t know men did that to each other.”

“Men shove it up men’s asses men all the time. They just don’t talk about it like they do pussy.”

“You’ve done that?”

“I admit this old pecker’s been up a few manholes. More than a fewhard cocks have shagged this old ass over the years.” He shook his head, wistfully, “I still have a hankering for a hard one up the old dirt chute.”

“I think that would hurt.”

“First time, it usually does,” agreed I ke. He took a bite from his sandwich.

I looked at my watch. Ten minutes of our lunch hour had already passed.

“We got time for a quickie,” said Ike. “There’s no one around to say, stop, if were enjoying ourselves.”

He unhooked the slide off the button of one shoulder-strap, pushed the bib of his overalls down to let them fall to his feet.

“Showtime,” said Ike. Between his legs, white and hairy, his semi-hard cock emerged from a tangled mass of brown and graypubic hair. The foreskin, still puckered beyond the head of the cock, extended downward forty-five degrees from the horizontal but was definitely on the rise.

I could only stare at the man. Until the day before, I had never seen an older man with an erection besides my grandpa.

Ike moved his fingers along the stalk of his manhood until the head partially emerged, purplish and broad. He removed his hand for a moment and it bobbled obscenely in the subdued light of the potting shed. Ike leaned back against a bin of clay pots like a model on display. “Like I said, boy, it gets the job done.”

I found it difficult not to watch. “You shouldn’t. . .”

“C’mon, boy. Show Ike your peckeer. I’m betting it’s nice and hard.”

I grasped my belt and tugged on the open end. I slipped the waistband button and two more before pushing down my blue jeans and shorts down in one move. My cock bounced and slapped my belly as I straightened.”

“That’s a beaut.” Ike stroked his pale, white cock with the purplish-pink head shining. “I’m betting it’ll grow some more if you stroke it.”

“We really shouldn’t. . .”

“Now don’t tell me you never stroked your hard peter with a buddy.”

“I’ve done that,” I finally admitted,. “But he was the same age as me and it was a long time ago.” I though back to the last time Chuck and me jerked each other off in the loft of our old barn. Chuck wanted more as a going away present and we had sucked each other’s dicks a little bit.

“Jackin’s always better when you do it with somebody,” said Ike. “Then you can lend each other a helping hand.”

“I don’t know about that,” I said.

Ike’s hand continued moving on his old cock as he leaned over to inspect mine. “God Damn! Boy. That cock looks good enough to eat.” Ike licked his lips. “You ever had that baby sucked?”

I shook my head as I watched the old man stroke his hard, pale cock.

“Well boy, I’d sayyou’re packing a real mouthful for some lucky gal or guy.” He grinned. “Well c’mon. Let’s see you get down to some serious jacking. Old Ike’s way ahead of you.”

I wrapped my fist around my stiff cock and moved the foreskin up and over the head on the up stroke. On the down stroke the expanded corona of the angry, purple head stared obscenely at the naked old man.

Ike toyed with his modest six inches. “What do you think of this old man’s cock?” His fist rode down to his balls and a cockhead smaller than the barrel stared back at mine.

“I guess I’m thinking this is like doing it with my grandpa.”

“You ever wish you could a done this with your grandpa?”

“I thought about it a lot.”

“Ever see him with a hard-on.”

“I told you about that!”

“Ever think about him doing your grandma?”

“I can’t imagine her ever doing anything with a man.

“Take my word for it, sonny, we know she did it or you wouldn’t be here.” Begrudgingly I nodded in agreement.

“Everybody fucks,” said old Ike. “They fuck or they jack off.”

“If you say so.”

“Say sonny, your cocks getting real juicy with slickum. Want old I ke to lick some of it away?”

“You wouldn’t.”

Ike licked his lips as he kept his hand pistoning up and down his hard cock. “You might be surprised what old Ike might do if he was in the mood for a taste of what comes out of a hard cock.”

And that is what he proceded to do. He sucked me dry.

Then he erupted in half-a-dozen spurts shooting out and onto the dirt floor of the potting shed. He gave his cock a flip and shucked t back into his overalls. He unwrapped a sandwich from its wax paper and procede to eat without washing his hands. He took a bite and chewed. “Nothing like it boy, a good jacking clears the cobwebs from your crotch and gives a man an appetite.”

***

The following day, We skipped the peliminaries. We dropped our pants. Ike got down on his knees and sucked me until I was hard and good and wet before he stood and turned.

“C’mon boy, Shove that pretty cock up old I ke’s tight, brown hole and massage old Ike’s prostate.

Ike bent forward and gripped the edge of the potting bench. The lean, white cheeked buttocks parted slightly and exposed the dark brown, crinkly, puckered star of his asshole “Now you go slow and ease it along until you’ve got it all the way in,” he cautioned. “This old ass craves your young cock but it don’t want too much too soon. You’ve got to let this old hole stretch to accomodate you.”

“Are you sure you want to do this?”

“Easy boy, easy,” he cautioned. “You feel a lot bigger than you look. Put a little more spit in your cock.”

“It’s awfully tight. I don’t know if it’s going to go or not.”

“”It’ll go,” said Ike. “There’s been bigger boys than you up the old shit chute.”

I slipped in the the last few inches.. “It’s all in.”

“I can tell,” said Ike. “Your cock hairs are tickling my ass.”

“Are you ready,” I asked.

“How are you liking old Ike’s hairy asshole so far?”

“It’s real tight.”

“Tighter than your fist?”

“Might be.”

“Ready to throw a fuck into a man that reminds you of your grandpa.”

“I reckon.”

“I want you should do old Ike one more favor.”

“What?”

While you’re pumpin my ass, would you reach around and play with my dick like you would your own? Would you do that for an old man?”

I reached around and took hold of his hard cock sticking out straight in front of him. I pilled the skin back amd then pulled it up and over the expaded glans. I felt my own cock expand inside him as I manipulated his staff in my fingers. I imagined that my cock extended through him and I was playing with what came out the other side of him.

“C’mon, boy, ram that big cock up the old shitter and make me know it. God Damn! tickle that old prostate and make old Ike come!”

Re:My Experience (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39283749)

tl;dr. So did Ike end up getting sued by the RIAA or not?

People really were sued (0, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39283493)

My sister was sued by the RIAA for making files available on Kazaa. She ended up settling with them.

Re:People really were sued (-1, Flamebait)

djlowe (41723) | more than 2 years ago | (#39283685)

My sister was sued by the RIAA for making files available on Kazaa. She ended up settling with them.

I sued your sister for giving me the clap, and she settled with me, too.

Oh, and, she wasn't that great a lay, either, though I couldn't get any money for that.

So, do I get modded up as Informative, too?

Regards,

dj

Re:People really were sued (-1, Flamebait)

djlowe (41723) | more than 2 years ago | (#39283783)

Wow, somebody's abusing their mod points!

Wait, let me redeem myself!

I got sued by the RIAA and lost my house, my car, my eternal salvation and the bastards took my cat, too! [1]

Regards,

dj

Notes:

[1] Honesty compels me to admit that the RIAA didn't actually get my cat: They tried, sending in a squad of of elite stormtroopers. My cat promptly ripped them to shreds, and the screams of the dying were terrifying to hear *grin*

Re:People really were sued (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39283753)

What was the settlement?

Re:People really were sued (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39283767)

Her sister gave them anal sex; they gave her AIDS.

Re:People really were sued (2, Insightful)

djlowe (41723) | more than 2 years ago | (#39283853)

My sister was sued by the RIAA for making files available on Kazaa. She ended up settling with them.

Is this really what Slashdot has devolved to? An AC posts such a statement, without any proof of veracity, and gets modded up to +5 Informative?

My attempts at sarcasm, to point out how ridiculous that is, are being modded down... WTF?

Regards

dj

Re:People really were sued (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39283871)

Christ, dude, come off it. It was an answer to the question at hand. This isn't Wikipedia. There are no "citation needed" tags. The fact that the comment was anonymous has no bearing on its relevance and your attention to it is just bizarre. (I'm posting AC even though I have an account.) Modding up an answer to the titular question is in no way ridiculous.

Re:People really were sued (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39283881)

My sister was sued by the RIAA for making files available on Kazaa. She ended up settling with them.

Is this really what Slashdot has devolved to? An AC posts such a statement, without any proof of veracity, and gets modded up to +5 Informative?

My attempts at sarcasm, to point out how ridiculous that is, are being modded down... WTF?

Regards

dj

It's *you* who devolved into crude sexual comments about AC's sister. All you are is some crude and disgusting idiot with an obviously strong bias for attention-seeking who goes by the pseudonymous handle "djlowe" and keeps posting repeatedly about the same thing. I'll trust the veracity of an AC's statement over anything you say any day of the week. That's the W behind your WTF. Happy to have helped.

Re:People really were sued (-1, Offtopic)

djlowe (41723) | more than 2 years ago | (#39283989)

It's *you* who devolved into crude sexual comments about AC's sister. All you are is some crude and disgusting idiot with an obviously strong bias for attention-seeking who goes by the pseudonymous handle "djlowe" and keeps posting repeatedly about the same thing. I'll trust the veracity of an AC's statement over anything you say any day of the week. That's the W behind your WTF. Happy to have helped.

Well, in the first place: A claim by an AC, about a sister, has no veracity: I can just as easily state this: My sister is a fucking slut. This, despite the fact that I have no sister. See how that works?

In addition, despite the fact that I have a pseudonymous handle "djlowe"? I've been here for a VERY long time, under that handle: I'd tend to think that that has more weight than all of you AC's :)

It's *you* who devolved into crude sexual comments about AC's sister

That was intentional - to point out the fact that there's NO way for any of us to know whether or not the AC's sister even exists. Can you prove that she does? Can you disprove that she didn't give me the clap? Or that she was a bad lay?

I'll trust the veracity of an AC's statement over anything you say any day of the week

Says the next AC *grin* Why doesn't that surprise me?

Tell you what - when you grow a pair, you come and post non-AC.

Regards,

dj

Re:People really were sued (1)

timeOday (582209) | more than 2 years ago | (#39283907)

What would you accept as proof? As you may know, establishing the true identity of people is dicey. Which is basically the entire issue of DRM in a nutshell.

Re:People really were sued (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39283955)

Don't believe it if you don't want to, true story.....

My Grandmother, a good Catholic with 28 grand and great grand children, got the letter..
She was *really* pissed the day The Laurence Welk show went off the air.
So I have know doubt, obviously , it was her downloading the death metal.
My cousin, a lawyer, advised just to settle.

Extortion folks, plain and simple.

I am now an avid supporter of the EFF.

Re:People really were sued (1)

blackfrancis75 (911664) | more than 2 years ago | (#39283859)

That was going to be my other question - how can you be sued for making a file available (as opposed to downloading it illegally).
If I leave my MP3 collection on an unsecure FTP site - can I be sued for that? What specific law am I breaking?
What if I leave my car door unlocked so someone can steal my CDs?

Re:People really were sued (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39283893)

Hey, moron: Why not try to suggest some new rationalizations, rather than rehash things that were discussed here years before you signed up for an account?

Re:People really were sued (4, Insightful)

Skarecrow77 (1714214) | more than 2 years ago | (#39283895)

it's always been uploading the file to others that they're pissed off about, not downloading it yourself.

sure they don't want you downloading music illegally, but what they tend to sue people for is offering the file out to others. Which of course just about every peer-to-peer file sharing system does by default. So people confuse one with the other.

I think there's a pretty big difference (at least legally speaking) between leaving your (legal-for-you-to-use) files on an insecure ftp site that somebody might find by accident, and putting your files on a public site and then advertising their existence to people looking to download them.

I'm not saying that they don't both have the potential to end you up in court, but one is going to be far far easier for the prosecution to proceed with than the other.

Re:People really were sued (1)

blackfrancis75 (911664) | more than 2 years ago | (#39283913)

I see; that does make sense.
Thanks for responding

Re:People really were sued (5, Funny)

Zakabog (603757) | more than 2 years ago | (#39283935)

The RIAA once sued my sister...

Mynd you, RIAA lawsuites kan be pretti nasti...

Re:People really were sued (5, Funny)

smitty97 (995791) | more than 2 years ago | (#39284043)

We apologize for the fault in the parent post. Those responsible have been sacked.

yes (0, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39283499)

A friend of mine has to bootleg internet access because he bootlegged everything else too much.

I think that might be more common...they get your ISP to "ban you" from their service. But, I'm sure he got legal threats. I just don't remember any specifics past that.

well, if you want to be technical... (4, Informative)

bmo (77928) | more than 2 years ago | (#39283517)

"We keep hearing different figures quoting the thousands of people who've been sued by RIAA "

The people actually sued by the RIAA for file sharing is actually zero.

nil.

Nobody.

Because they don't own the copyrights. It's the studios that do. These studios are members of the RIAA, but in the US, at least, to have standing to sue, you must have the actual copyright yourself. The press always confuses the RIAA with the studios, because the RIAA has the loudest mouth.

We saw lack of standing with SCO. They kept insisting that they owned the copyrights to SysV, but the plain language of the APA didn't say they do, and in order for copyright to change hands (in that case from Novell to SCO) there has to be a positive statement *in writing on paper* that the copyright is transfered.

The judge in the case and Novell eventually got SCO to fuck off, but it took 7 years.

Similarly in these cases, it's not "The RIAA vs Joe Blough," it's "IRS Records vs Jane Sawless" because the RIAA does not own the copyright to "I Stabbed A Monkey" but IRS Records does.

--
BMO

Re:well, if you want to be technical... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39283541)

:o that sounds like an awesome song. //internet

Re:well, if you want to be technical... (1)

hoggoth (414195) | more than 2 years ago | (#39283799)

It is. Great ripping song, fun to drink and sing along to. It recounts the legend of "The Chalvey Stab Monkey".

Re:well, if you want to be technical... (1)

larry bagina (561269) | more than 2 years ago | (#39283575)

No one has been sued for *downloading* music. You get sued for uploading/distributing/making available.

Re:well, if you want to be technical... (4, Informative)

bmo (77928) | more than 2 years ago | (#39283627)

>No one has been sued for *downloading* music. You get sued for uploading/distributing/making available.

Please note the actual word I used.

Sharing, as in putting it in your share folder.

Thank you and have a nice day.

--
BMO

Re:well, if you want to be technical... (1)

Anthony Mouse (1927662) | more than 2 years ago | (#39283727)

No one has been sued for *downloading* music. You get sued for uploading/distributing/making available.

I kind of wonder if there is any actual legal reason for that, or if it's just that the only way to catch a downloader is to be the uploader and the RIAA wouldn't be caught dead uploading "pirated" music.

Re:well, if you want to be technical... (5, Insightful)

cpt kangarooski (3773) | more than 2 years ago | (#39283815)

It's mainly because of the technical reason you identified: it's hard to catch people who only download, unless they download from you (or you obtain logs from someone who was uploading).

There is a bit of legal strategy as well, though; even the RIAA has finite legal resources, and it's not as though the few lawsuits (or even the more common settlements, probably) are a profit center for them. Given this, it's more efficient to go for the head of the snake, as it were. That's why they like to sue / pressure people who are behind entire file sharing networks (e.g. Napster, Grokster, MegaUpload) since that could (if it worked) cut off lots of file sharers in one stroke. Suing uploaders is less efficient, but still could prevent at least some downloading from occurring. Suing a downloader is the least efficient thing of all, since it only stops that one person with no beneficial side effects. That isn't to say that it would never happen, but it can't possibly be a high priority.

Re:well, if you want to be technical... (1)

Endo13 (1000782) | more than 2 years ago | (#39283933)

Really?

I've always been under the impression that it's because it's only uploading (ie. "distributing") that's illegal, not downloading.

Re:well, if you want to be technical... (1)

PhrstBrn (751463) | more than 2 years ago | (#39284045)

Partially correct. Both are illegal, but the fines for distributing material are much larger than just downloading. It's similar to possession of drugs vs drug trafficking.

Re:well, if you want to be technical... (1)

Kleen13 (1006327) | more than 2 years ago | (#39283825)

I thought mp3's were legal to download as review material for 24 hours. Was/is that true?

Re:well, if you want to be technical... (1)

cdrudge (68377) | more than 2 years ago | (#39283917)

No. Only video game roms. And software isos. I think it may just be a warez thing, not a mp3z thing.

Re:well, if you want to be technical... (1)

Skarecrow77 (1714214) | more than 2 years ago | (#39283939)

no more than it's legal to take a book home from the bookstore to review for 24 hours before you decide to buy it.

Where would you get that idea from?

Re:well, if you want to be technical... (1)

Kleen13 (1006327) | more than 2 years ago | (#39283967)

I've been hearing that since MP3's 1st came out... That's why I'm curious.

Re:well, if you want to be technical... (1)

Aryden (1872756) | more than 2 years ago | (#39284033)

Bad analogy. One is copyright infringement, the other is theft.

Re:well, if you want to be technical... (1)

yukk (638002) | more than 2 years ago | (#39284061)

no more than it's legal to take a book home from the bookstore to review for 24 hours before you decide to buy it.

Where would you get that idea from?

Don't the libraries let you do this ? In fact, I think they let you take it home for long enough to read the whole thing !

I have to wonder if any non AC's will respond.... (2, Informative)

mark-t (151149) | more than 2 years ago | (#39283519)

I mean, other than to make a metacomment, such as this. At the time I'm posting this, the only posts that are admitting to this are AC.

Re:I have to wonder if any non AC's will respond.. (5, Insightful)

izomiac (815208) | more than 2 years ago | (#39283569)

It wouldn't surprise me if there's something akin to a non-disclosure agreement in the settlement offer, thus ensuring nobody should give specifics or post under their primary username. That's also likely the reason the submitter hasn't found much information about the experience.

Re:I have to wonder if any non AC's will respond.. (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39283595)

That is exactly the issue. Happens all the time, especially in the medical field. You get a payout and are barred from saying anything to anyone. This leaves everyone else in the dark as to how bad things really are.

Re:I have to wonder if any non AC's will respond.. (1)

mark-t (151149) | more than 2 years ago | (#39283745)

And what if you don't accept the payout?

Re:I have to wonder if any non AC's will respond.. (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39283781)

Then you spend the next decade or so wrapped up in litigation and spending thousands of dollars in legal fees.

Oh and you don't respond to this Ask Slashdot because doing so would probably get you in trouble with the judge.

(For the record, I've been threatened legal action by the RIAA once and my ISP twice. I ignored them every time and nothing ever became of it.)

Re:I have to wonder if any non AC's will respond.. (1)

mark-t (151149) | more than 2 years ago | (#39284007)

Why would one spend thousands in legal fees? I mean, if somebody is willing to pay somebody to keep their mouth shut about something, then they are already clearly at a disadvantaged point anyways. I mean, if you don't have any proof of what you're supposed to keep quite about, then there's not any sense in them offering you a payout anyways, since it would be your word against theirs. And as long as you had such proof, you could trivially present it in court yourself... no legal fees involved whatsoever.

Except for one small thing... (1)

multimediavt (965608) | more than 2 years ago | (#39283971)

That is exactly the issue. Happens all the time, especially in the medical field. You get a payout and are barred from saying anything to anyone. This leaves everyone else in the dark as to how bad things really are.

Except, the settlement in this case would be the person paying the corporation, not vice versa. Why on Earth would the corporation NOT want to make that information public? The effect of suing in the first place is to strike fear of financial ruin into the hearts of all who would share anything. There would be no gag order, and speculating anyone ducking as an AC would be most likely doing so because they are still engaged in illegal activity, as far as the members of the RIAA are concerned, and don't want to get caught again. Maybe? I have not personally been "served" with any nasty-grams, but worked for many years in IT at a university where cease and desist letters were almost a daily occurrence for a while. Have never known anyone personally to have been served or sued.

Re:I have to wonder if any non AC's will respond.. (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39283947)

In 2001 I was a student at Iowa State University. There were some people running a search spider on campus that would look through all open SMB shares and index them. If I would have lived on campus I'd have more immediate details about what actually happened, but I do know that they were expelled and settled out of court, I just don't have the details.

Strangetalk.net is a message board a lot of students use, but I haven't been able to find a lot of details in the archives either (admittedly, I didn't look too hard)

I changed my MAC daily with a spoofer and hung out on guest network.

Post Anonymously (4, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39283535)

Because I am not allowed to talk about it as part of the settlement.

Re:Post Anonymously (4, Insightful)

ThePeices (635180) | more than 2 years ago | (#39283701)

But since you posted that as an AC, why are you still not talking about it?

Me (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39283549)

My wifi is open (but I keep my own activity logs in case the FBI does a kiddy porn raid). The RIAA sent me some nasty letters demanded money. I told them to fuck off. They filed a lawsuit. The judge wouldn't allow my evidence. Apparently, calling a judge a cocksucker is a good way to spend the weekend in jail for contempt of court. Who knew. We're still pretrial (it's dragged on for over a year and a half now).

Re:Me (1)

Skarecrow77 (1714214) | more than 2 years ago | (#39283943)

you're not a lawyer are you?

Re:Me (1)

Aryden (1872756) | more than 2 years ago | (#39284065)

apparently not, though I have heard a lawyer (mine) call a judge a "coke snorting moron" to which she (the judge) wasn't very amused. In his defense, he was sleeping with her.

Can they talk about it? (5, Informative)

Jason Levine (196982) | more than 2 years ago | (#39283571)

At one point, I thought that the settlement that the RIAA pushed people to accept included clauses that prevented people from talking about the settlement. The RIAA, however, had no such restrictions. This way, the RIAA could say all they want about the "dirty, rotten pirate" they stopped but the sued individual couldn't provide their side. I'm not sure if this is still true, but could be part of the reason why we don't hear of many people on Slashdot who were sued.

I was sued by the RIAA (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39283591)

It was during 2007 while I was just finishing up my PhD in the States. I got a court summons the same month I defended my thesis. My guess is that I got careless with my music downloads while I was getting lots of music to burn through the hours while working on my thesis. I just ignored it, defended my thesis, and went back home in Europe as I was planning to anyway. Got a few threatening letters forwarded to me for a while after... Ignored those, too, and never really heard anything else after a while.

Sued? No. Threatened? Yes. (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39283593)

I didn't get sued, but when I was in college I got an email from my university's IT department that if I didn't respond before 8:00 am the next day(which was about 16 hours away from when they sent the email) they would cut off my internet. Why? Because they received a letter from one of the MPAA members(I forget which one now, it's been a few years) saying that I was torrenting some random disc of a TV show off some Spanish torrent site. I basically responded to the IT department saying that I couldn't stop seeding the torrent file because I never had it in the first place and requested some more information on the actual complaint they had been sent, I'm not sure how they handled the complaint with the company but I never heard anything else after that.

Re:Sued? No. Threatened? Yes. (2)

Myopic (18616) | more than 2 years ago | (#39283909)

Really? I would have demanded a little more information. That organization in fact slandered you with false accusations, and you could have a tort against them. It would hardly ever come to that, but you could have fun writing letters and disturbing their lawyers for a while.

The closest I've heard of this is (2)

Jaktar (975138) | more than 2 years ago | (#39283609)

The closest I've heard of anything like this was a co-worker who received a letter from his ISP with a cease and desist. The letter listed the infringing files that he downloaded by name. It said something to the effect of "if you do this again you may be disconnected and/or sued". He still downloads things.

Re:The closest I've heard of this is (1, Informative)

Larryish (1215510) | more than 2 years ago | (#39283795)

Got my cable cut off once over dling a movie still in the theaters.

Stupid public tracker.

One time I heard a fictional story about someone using a VPS in a foreign country, and transmission-daemon.

probability? (4, Insightful)

blueworm (425290) | more than 2 years ago | (#39283621)

Yeah I don't know anyone either, probably because thousands of people sued out of over three-hundred-million U.S. citizens doesn't make for a very high probability that you will personally meet someone who has been sued. The original submitter is a joke, and should never have been approved on this site.

Re:probability? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39283703)

Three hundred million is a bit of an exaggeration considering the number of citizens that illegal download music and movies are substantially south of that number. Also, if the submitter has a tendency of asking everyone he ever comes in contact with if they know anyone who's been sued by the RIAA, that could actually cover a rather large number of people--enough to possibly make it significant. I know people who do things like that (ask everyone the know a question along those lines).

Re:probability? (1)

boarder8925 (714555) | more than 2 years ago | (#39283733)

The original submitter is a joke, and should never have been approved on this site.In other words, it's perfectly suited for Slashdot?

/ducks

Re:probability? (1)

blackfrancis75 (911664) | more than 2 years ago | (#39283889)

should never have been approved on this site.

The fact that dozens of people have responded with the information I was asking for is proof that it should.
Are you worried about your favourite site getting 'cluttered' with articles which you personally have no interest in?

Re:probability? (3, Funny)

genocism (2577895) | more than 2 years ago | (#39283975)

It's called networking. If everyone at Slashdot knows a few hundred people it's a broad sample. See - Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon. ...In retrospect, you're probably right. Most people here know two, maybe three people. I yield to your wisdom sir.

Re:probability? (1)

Myopic (18616) | more than 2 years ago | (#39283993)

Nah, this is just a good excuse to bring up a continuing topic in the nerd community which hasn't had a headline recently.

Besides, most people know, what, a couple thousand people well enough that they would say, 'yes, I know a person who was sued'? So what would the math be, fifteen thousand lawsuits, by a couple thousand acquaintances, is about thirty million, so one in ten Americans would know a defendant.

Or try lower numbers: let's say you only know five hundred people well enough, and there were only ten thousand lawsuits, that would be five million acquaintances, or one acquaintance per sixty Americans.

But it's not surprising that both you and I are in the fifty-nine out of sixty people who don't have such an acquaintance.

Re:probability? (1)

multimediavt (965608) | more than 2 years ago | (#39283995)

Yeah I don't know anyone either, probably because thousands of people sued out of over three-hundred-million U.S. citizens doesn't make for a very high probability that you will personally meet someone who has been sued. The original submitter is a joke, and should never have been approved on this site.

Yeah, but everyone is six degrees or less from Kevin Mother Fucking Bacon!

I know someone who has (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39283623)

I know of someone who was sued by the RIAA, the fines are on the order of the following

1. pay 5k through an automated settlement system
2. try to fight, and get offered a settlement where you pay 125k (this effectively happens the moment you force one of their lawyers to be on the phone for more than 5 minutes)
3. continue to fight and see them try to charge you with the full 250k per infringement that they're allowed to hit you with.

The person I knew had a good case to fight it with, but had no conceivable way of coping with a 125k settlement. (they actually hadn't downloaded any of the songs )

Re:I know someone who has (1)

DigiShaman (671371) | more than 2 years ago | (#39283979)

I'm not a lawyer, but this my recommendation if it were me.

If you've knowingly been downloading music by whatever means, man up and pay the 5k. You have absolutely know way for sure to know if they're bluffing or in fact have logged IPs captured from one of their P2P honeypots. No effing way would gamble 5k over 125k! But then again, I wouldn't be pirating music anyways. So there ya go. I hope my personal insight is helpful to some of you out there.

Re:I know someone who has (1)

MacDork (560499) | more than 2 years ago | (#39284051)

I'm not a lawyer either, but this is my recommendation if it were me.

Fight it. Take them to court. Ask the judge why the same group who distributed the file sharing software [youtube.com] is now being allowed to sue you. Why doesn't Grokster apply to AOL? Why does it only apply to Grokster?

Non-RIAA cases (4, Interesting)

feedayeen (1322473) | more than 2 years ago | (#39283657)

Over the course of downloading several terabytes of materials in several thousand torrents, I've received 2 letters neither of which threatened legal action but were along the lines of, 'we caught you, it's illegal, stop doing it'. One was for a movie I had never downloaded, the other was for a tv series which is available freely on the Internet from their website that I had been downloading.

My response to both is the same. I've never seen the movie I was accused of torrenting and never will and I stopped watching the tv series.

I was (sorta) (5, Informative)

shift3 (911297) | more than 2 years ago | (#39283693)

I was USAF stationed in Germany. I wont lie.... I download a few things from Torrents... 99.9% of that was TV Shows since it was hard to watch 6 hours ahead (AFN is crap)... Right before i left Germany, i got a certified letter in the mail stating (in german) that i download Bens Fold Five or something. Anyone that knows me, knows i listen to metal.. and metal.. and mostly all metal... Also, they said i downloaded it around 8am on a sunday.... Again, anyone that knew me knows i dont even wake up till noon on sundays... The letter stated that i owed 6000 euro to some lawyer in Munchen. Well, since it came to me and not the base legal office, i ignored it... and left country a few months later (my tour was over)... So, i was never sued by the RIAA directly... but i was told i owed money for a song i allegedly downloaded.

Disclaimer: I am not in the AF... I do not represent the AF.... I may or may not have had a few drinks... and i "CBF"ed to capitalize my "i"s or even use correct grammar... Get over it...

Re:I was (sorta) (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39283883)

your dumb enough to wanna be in the military. your opinion is worth nothing. now go kill some brown people because the flag told you to.

Re:I was (sorta) (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39283953)

I love you man!! You speak for 99% of us!!!

Not a lot (5, Informative)

Charliemopps (1157495) | more than 2 years ago | (#39283699)

So I used to work in the part of an ISP that dealt with the copyright complaints and law enforcement requests. The large copyright owners (like record companies) were the only ones that really sent us anything. They hired companies that represented them, collected info off of torrent clients, file sharing programs and websites and then sent complaints to us. That I know of, no request ever came for actual customer records. None... ever. While I worked there, no requests ever came, no that worked there could remember it ever happening, and I'm still friends with people that work there and they still tell me they've never had a request. We got law enforcement requests... but even those we're pretty rare. Local police don't really seem all that interested in anything more than emergency requests revolving around hostage situations (typically crazy boyfriends locked himself in girlfriends house with a gun/knife) The FBI would send requests to us, but they were often very elaborate requests having to do with con-artists or embezzlement cases where they were just looking for billing records. Wire-taps are VERY rare.

I'm not sure how many people get sued, but I serviced several million customers and none ever got anything more than a meaningless email from their ISP that likely went to a mailbox they hadn't used in years. I've believed for a while now that the lawsuits you hear about are more likely just scare tactics and there's really not that much legal action taken.

One of my neighbors, sort of.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39283705)

The people who live a few houses away didn't quite get sued by a recording company, but close enough I think. I don't have any firsthand knowledge, but they're friends of a friend.

They received one of the "pay us $X and we won't take you to court" letters -- apparently one of their kids had been using Limewire or the equivalent, and had the download folder set up to make files available on the network. I have a feeling this is how most of the people who received such a letter got "caught."

Last I heard, they quietly paid the extortion fee. I hope a revocation of computer privileges for the offender, or some other disciplinary action on their part, followed.

I got warned. (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39283707)

While I was living at Bruce Hall at ANU, I woke up one day to find my network connection didn't work. I phoned the campus IT support and they told me they'd disconnected my port for torrenting a crack for the Sims 2 that my partner wanted. Ironically, despite all the less-than-legit stuff I'd torrented in the past, this was for a game she legitimately owned but the CD drive in her machine was broken. Given that we were poor students and unable to afford a new one, I got her a crack for it.

I got it reconnected after I wrote them a thing saying I'd be a good boy. Only time it happened in about four years.

Posting AC to avoid raep.

Want to find people who have settled? Try dorms (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39283721)

I've already noticed that most replies of being caught(or allegedly so) said they were in college, and having lived in a town with two universities while frequently going to college parties, I have met people(college students) who claim to have settled out of court with a representative of the music industry. It's difficult to discern truth from fiction story time, however, college campuses would be a good place to look for people who have settled out of court in a way that would have pushed their situation from the public eye(thus keeping them from being included in any kind of statistics), because most campuses have already made deals with the RIAA which allows them to spy on the students through their WANS.

I was sued! (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39283751)

I called the police when I was trying to download some porn and accidentally ended up with some pirated songs instead. It was Justin Bieber and Katy Perry, so they didn't punish me.

Australia Nuff Said (1)

mattydont (849321) | more than 2 years ago | (#39283787)

But really, TPG are the only ISP I know of in Oz that send out infringement notices (purely to cover their arse).

Re:Australia Nuff Said (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39283905)

But really, TPG are the only ISP I know of in Oz that send out infringement notices (purely to cover their arse).

Not true, I am with DCSI in Gippsland Victoria and have received two cease and desist letters form them for downloading torrents..

my bosses son (3, Informative)

luther349 (645380) | more than 2 years ago | (#39283789)

my bosses son was sued by the riaa for downloading a bunch of mp3s. she had to foot the bill as well.

I sometimes wonder if I'll get a takedown notice (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39283791)

I'm a singer-songwriter, and post all of my songs on my website for free download in a variety of formats. I sometimes wonder if I'll get a take-down notice from the RIAA or some similar simply due to some undiscerning software they might run. I doubt it, but it would be interesting.

Re:I sometimes wonder if I'll get a takedown notic (2)

pecosdave (536896) | more than 2 years ago | (#39283839)

It happened to The Offspring. They got in trouble for putting their music up for free.

(I still can't figure out why they chose to distribute their music in Quicktime format)

Re:I sometimes wonder if I'll get a takedown notic (5, Interesting)

aitikin (909209) | more than 2 years ago | (#39283899)

Interesting scenario. My mentor's friend was going to play a fundraiser at a bar or some other public venue. He's in a record contract and an ASCAP artist. Now this is a little different than posting your songs online for free, but he was told by ASCAP lawyers that the venue would have to pay $XXXX in order to pay for the ASCAP licensing as they would be performing ASCAP songs. Obviously they could not afford this fine, so he came up with the idea that he would only use his own original compositions. The ASCAP lawyers stated that, because he was an ASCAP artist, his songs cannot be performed either without violating their licensing agreements. I don't think he's with ASCAP anymore.

Long story short...probably. Furthermore, ASCAP can make the *AAs look good, but at least the majority of the money ends up in the hands of the artist with ASCAP (or so I've been told by many ASCAP artists).

A friend was (1)

finity (535067) | more than 2 years ago | (#39283805)

I have a friend who was sued by the RIAA or one of their members. I don't know anything about it, except that he and a few others all decided to settle, and that they were all in college at the time. He's doing well now.

There have been a few news stories about the grandma who was sued, or the cute college coed that was sued, too. Not that I know them, but the people do exist.

contacted by the MPAA (1)

rrossman2 (844318) | more than 2 years ago | (#39283831)

Back in 99/2000, the university at the time called me in to judicial affairs because the MPAA had sent a letter or other wise contacted them about a file that was available on my "personal page" hosted at the university. Now granted I hadn't had access to the page in over two years or so at the time as I was now out of school and no longer had access. Anyhow, the file was the source for DeCSS, which the MPAA contacted the school about because its "copyright violation", which the judicial affairs lady told me the university took very seriously (but the lady didn't seem to understand I had no control over or access to the page anymore, as I was no longer a student).

I also interned under a guy who had received two notices from Comcast within a week or so of each other (which he had shown me).. his first and second strike letters for downloading TV shows and movies

Interesting.... (5, Interesting)

mark-t (151149) | more than 2 years ago | (#39283851)

All the posts that I've seen from people who said that they simply ignored threats from the RIAA are stating that nothing ever came of the threats.

Are there any accounts of somebody who tried to ignore it, and found that they could not?

University Letters (3, Informative)

j33px0r (722130) | more than 2 years ago | (#39283885)

My students who live on campus will receive disciplinary action for downloading music via torrent or whatever program they are using. They are required to attend a couple sessions on the illegal nature of their activities. The sessions including watching a few videos & sign some papers saying their sorry or some such nonsense. I've had 3 or 4 claim this has happened.

Not RIAA but New Sensations (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39283887)

Kind of funny this came up, I havent been sued by the RIIA but New Sensations inc has me in their sights.

I was contacted by my ISP that a company New Sensations representing copyright holders of about 7 adult movies I had allegedly downloaded. They listed the titles downloaded and the times. They also included a link for each case for a settlement I could just pay online. The settlement offered is 200$ per title and there are 7 which comes to 1400$.

The thing is I didnt actually download any of those files the internet while being in my name is used by a friend not even in the same house.

So I am wondering how I should handle this I could ignore it, but the email has language that seems to state if I dont take the settlements by april 5th they will proceed to sue. I contacted the eff about this but they just reffered me to some lawyers I could contact

A friend of mine was sued by the RIAA... (4, Interesting)

XxtraLarGe (551297) | more than 2 years ago | (#39284025)

After he died. It actually made Slashdot [slashdot.org] .

We sued them. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39284035)

Then their member corps sued us. Money is only part of it. It's more about ego and control.

I had a C&D.. (1)

Billlagr (931034) | more than 2 years ago | (#39284059)

From my ISP on behalf of Starz, for downloading Torchwood - Miracle day. Apart from a 'we are watching you closely now' warning, that was the end of it.
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