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Police Planning New Raid On The Pirate Bay

Soulskill posted more than 2 years ago | from the heroic-mode-this-time dept.

Crime 146

An anonymous reader writes "TorrentFreak reports that Swedish authorities are gearing up for another raid on the servers of The Pirate Bay. The site was raided once before, in 2006, and the evidence gathered at that time was sufficient to convict its founders. 'The authorities have obtained warrants to snoop around in sensitive places and two known anti-piracy prosecutors, Frederick Ingblad and Henrik Rasmusson, are said to be involved. Employing a little psychological warfare aimed at putting the investigators off-balance, the Pirate Bay team has chosen to make the news public to make the authorities aware that they are not the only ones being watched.'"

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More like The Pirate Gay (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39301357)

Am I right, land lubbers?

the devil is fat (-1, Flamebait)

For a Free Internet (1594621) | more than 2 years ago | (#39301373)

His pants don't need a belt and

Magnet links? (1)

Hatta (162192) | more than 2 years ago | (#39301379)

I don't use TPB much so this is the first I've heard of that. How is magnet link support in rtorrent these days?

Re:Magnet links? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39301447)

Non-existent.

It'd be nice if there was a command line utility that could take a magnet link and generate a valid torrent file from it for clients that don't have magnet support.

Re:Magnet links? (4, Informative)

danomac (1032160) | more than 2 years ago | (#39301569)

Strange you should say that, works fine for me.

rtorrent-0.8.9/libtorrent-0.12.9

It took them a while to add it, but it is there. (No, this wasn't compiled with a patch, like you had to do early on...)

Re:Magnet links? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39301595)

Actually, it supports downloading from magnet links just fine, just not seeding the .torrent file. See this old ticket: http://libtorrent.rakshasa.no/ticket/2100 [rakshasa.no] .

Re:Magnet links? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39302245)

You can compile magnet support into rtorrent. You can also use the command line interface for Transmission, which works great for magnet links.

Re:Magnet links? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39301513)

Magnet links work perfectly in rtorrent, they actually work even better than torrent files, because rtorrent does not waste time trying to connect to dead trackers.

Re:Magnet links? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39301547)

Could you elaborate? I have them working, sorta, but demonoid baffles me....

Re:Magnet links? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39301659)

They work in the sense "Copy link location", press Backspace in rtorrent, paste link, press Enter, wait till it downloads. I assume some recent rtorrent release, obviously.

Relevant config lines in .rtorrent.rc are the following. Maybe some of them are already default, I didn't check.

session = /home/xxx/.rtorrent
peer_exchange = yes
dht = auto

Re:Magnet links? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39301999)

Even easier in KTorrent (KDE's torrent app)... I just click on the magnet link in Chrome, KTorrent pops up with it, and I'm going. One less step than the .torrent files even. I'm surprised if you really have to do more than that with another setup, honestly...

Re:Magnet links? (5, Informative)

Rakshasa-sensei (533725) | more than 2 years ago | (#39301947)

I've never really used magnet links that much so there's bound to be some issues, however due to the TPB change I'll be looking closer at that code in the near future. There's seems to be some magnet links that aren't supported properly...

In any case please do realize that there's no 'they' in rtorrent, at the best I had one guy sending me patches for DHT support and various other stuff. Pretty much a one man project, so I'll mainly be focusing on stuff certain users pay me to implement.

Re:Magnet links? (3, Interesting)

KozmoStevnNaut (630146) | more than 2 years ago | (#39302049)

Since my programming skills are definitely inadequate, I just donated $20 to you instead.

Thank you for a great piece of software, screen+rtorrent will never be beat, as far as I'm concerned.

Re:Magnet links? (1)

A beautiful mind (821714) | more than 2 years ago | (#39302879)

Would you consider adding Flattr along Paypal to the donation options? I'd rather not support Paypal, but I would like to donate.

Re:Magnet links? (4, Informative)

Rakshasa-sensei (533725) | more than 2 years ago | (#39302079)

The latest version (to be released soon) will be much more aggressive at contacting trackers, so the dead tracker issue is gone.

Re:Magnet links? (2)

Ogi_UnixNut (916982) | more than 2 years ago | (#39301537)

Works perfectly! I'm happy to say :)

I don't remember when they added support but it must be about a year by now. I pretty much only use magnet links with rtorrent. I don't know exactly which version it is (it came with Debian) but I can find out if you like?

Re:Magnet links? (5, Interesting)

wanzeo (1800058) | more than 2 years ago | (#39301955)

The Pirate Bay's days are numbered. With the move to magnet links, their entire "collection" takes about 100MB. That is small enough that every user can have a copy that slowly updates between connected users. For an up and coming implementation of this, see Tribler [wikipedia.org] .

If all p2p switched to a similar method, the only targets for authorities would be IP addresses in the swarm. Right now that rarely happens, but it could very easily become commonplace if there are no big targets left.

Re:Magnet links? (3, Informative)

tlhIngan (30335) | more than 2 years ago | (#39302147)

It depends. A magnet link can store a LOT of information - it can be anywhere from a hash to a complete torrent file in a link. Or it can be a redirect to a different site hosting the torrent file.

It's actually important to know the difference because one requires the use of DHT, while the others simply point the torrent client elsewhere to fetch the torrent file.

Heck, TPB stopped their trackers years ago - but that didn't mean they went completely DHT - they just used a lot of other trackers out there

All TPB's doing is really turning themselves into a google for torrents.

Re:Magnet links? (1)

Hatta (162192) | more than 2 years ago | (#39302169)

Didn't they try that with gnutella?

Magnet Links (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39301385)

Good timing, with the magnet link only deployment of torrent files...

Very Kill Bill-ish (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39301397)

"I want you to tell him all the information you just told me. I want him to know what I know. I want him to know I want him to know."

Hopefully, it will have less gore. Still, katanas are much cooler than police batons. ... Do they have those in Europe today? Been awhile since I've been there. I know some American cops have these weird things that I'm not even going to try to describe. Come to think, I would be far less inclined to cross a cop who was armed with a sword than I would a cop with the aforementioned weird stick thingy.

Re:Very Kill Bill-ish (0)

camperdave (969942) | more than 2 years ago | (#39301495)

American cops have these weird things that I'm not even going to try to describe. Come to think, I would be far less inclined to cross a cop who was armed with a sword than I would a cop with the aforementioned weird stick thingy.

Tonfa? [tonfas.co.uk]

Re:Very Kill Bill-ish (0)

X0563511 (793323) | more than 2 years ago | (#39301679)

Yep, though they are usually called nightsticks (generic name for a club, actually).

Though part of me wishes we used sasumata [wikipedia.org] .

Re:Very Kill Bill-ish (1)

camperdave (969942) | more than 2 years ago | (#39302935)

Kind of hard to casually stroll into a coffee shop, or a mall, or to get in and out of squad cars with a 2 meter pole covered in barbs and sharp pointy bits; but it would look bad-ass.

Re:Very Kill Bill-ish (1)

X0563511 (793323) | more than 2 years ago | (#39303005)

Indeed. But they could use one of these instead [wikipedia.org] , the modern evolution of the things. Bonus points if you employ the metal shield too!

Re:Very Kill Bill-ish (1, Informative)

blackicye (760472) | more than 2 years ago | (#39301753)

American cops have these weird things that I'm not even going to try to describe. Come to think, I would be far less inclined to cross a cop who was armed with a sword than I would a cop with the aforementioned weird stick thingy.

Tonfa? [tonfas.co.uk]

Anyone who has played Sierra's Police Quest could tell you that is a PR-24 Nightstick ;)

Re:Very Kill Bill-ish (4, Funny)

Anomalyst (742352) | more than 2 years ago | (#39302545)

Anyone who has played Sierra's Police Quest could tell you that is a PR-24 Nightstick ;)

Does the "PR" stand for "Public Relations"?

Re:Very Kill Bill-ish (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39302749)

The PR-24 Nightstick. Also known as the PR Nightmare.

Re:Very Kill Bill-ish (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39302433)

Nah, I just did some digging (caffeine made me less-lazy and Google and I think they're called "telescopic batons." Image: http://www.protectyourhomeandfamily.com/files/1978296/uploaded/TSB.jpg

I'm pretty sure that's what I saw and I definitely remember part of it being foamy (very NERF-like) and feeling pretty flimsy.

Of course, I'm of the opinion that police brass are trying to phase out physical means of submission in favor of things like mace and tasers because they don't leave ugly bruises for the media and defense attorneys to use against them. Frankly, I'd rather get whacked in the head with a stick than get tased or maced. Less likely than the taser to kill me and probably doesn't hurt as long as the mace (unless they break something).

Re:Very Kill Bill-ish (2)

camperdave (969942) | more than 2 years ago | (#39302979)

It seems to me that a taser could be defeated with a tinfoil undershirt, or conductive foam.

Re:Very Kill Bill-ish (1, Informative)

RobCull (1658279) | more than 2 years ago | (#39301785)

Are you referring to a tonfa? A tonfa is like a small baton with an extra handle/grip at 90 degrees from the rest of the baton. It's otherwise known as a night stick. It's basically a standard billy club, except the extra handle is added so it can be used defensively (to protect the forearm) and to make it harder to pull out of the bearer's hand.

There is not way a sword is less of a threat than a night stick.

Shhhh.... (1)

snooz_crash (802357) | more than 2 years ago | (#39301409)

don't tell anyone...

Move it to .onion (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39301413)

... and let the cops find it first...

Re:Move it to .onion (4, Funny)

Samantha Wright (1324923) | more than 2 years ago | (#39301441)

Unfortunately, the Onion (America's Finest News Source) has been prevented from registering a TLD. Sources suggest their rejection by ICANN was a real tear-jerker.

Re:Move it to .onion (4, Funny)

berashith (222128) | more than 2 years ago | (#39301501)

booo. too many layers to this joke!

Re:Move it to .onion (4, Funny)

Samantha Wright (1324923) | more than 2 years ago | (#39301603)

I take it you're onionspired, then?

Re:Move it to .onion (2)

berashith (222128) | more than 2 years ago | (#39301665)

allium is amazed at the lengths people will go to for a pun

Re:Move it to .onion (2, Funny)

Reverand Dave (1959652) | more than 2 years ago | (#39301927)

This whole thread is a real tear-jerker.

Re:Move it to .onion (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39302151)

This isn't fucking Reddit you unfunny shit stains.

Re:Move it to .onion (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39302623)

You must be new here.

Re:Move it to .onion (1)

scarboni888 (1122993) | more than 2 years ago | (#39302671)

Wow - and I thought *I* had anger issues.... sheesh

Re:Move it to .onion (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39301517)

I gave you a +1 Funny, but it's not for your post. It's for your signature.

Isn't this getting a little silly? (3, Insightful)

msobkow (48369) | more than 2 years ago | (#39301433)

Now a "news" article essentially amounts to "someone posted a message about someone telling them that someone else said they'd..."

Are you serious? That chain of "evidence" is worse than most small town gossip!

And even if it's true -- so what? As convenient as it is, TPB is hardly the only torrent site in the world...

Re:Isn't this getting a little silly? (4, Informative)

erroneus (253617) | more than 2 years ago | (#39302155)

It is the most significant one, in my opinion. If and when it's gone, it will become something of a symbol of what various governments are willing to do at the demands of the US government which is acting on the demands of the media/content publishers of the U.S.

The summary is a bit off in its depiction of history. The first raid on TPB resulted in the servers all being returned very quickly as there was nothing illegal about them in their country. There was no evidence collected from their servers that convicted anyone. That they exist and that the people who ran them did so was not in dispute and taking those servers down did nothing to prove anything.

What was significant and what is missed here is that it displayed perfectly the chain of influence at play. The story behind the first raid was pretty ugly. The raid was not going to happen at first because the police saw that no law was being broken by the site or its operators. Politics somehow overruled the law and the raid occurred. The stuff taken was returned and brought back online within a couple of days because it was all quite illegal. It was the US government's influence which was used to push the Swedish government to step beyond its own laws. And we already know who influences the US government to make them push its influence onto other sovereign nations.

As this is about to happen again, apparently, goes to show that the Swedish government has no respect for its own laws any more than the US has respect for its own constitution. It's getting to the point where "respect for the law" is the exclusive domain of those who are ruled and not at all for the rulers.

Re:Isn't this getting a little silly? (5, Insightful)

TheGratefulNet (143330) | more than 2 years ago | (#39302325)

It's getting to the point where "respect for the law" is the exclusive domain of those who are ruled and not at all for the rulers.

I'm an old and cranky man. but I see no country that exhibits freedom the way we all THOUGHT it would be.

lies and lies. freedom is a thing that exists for the rich and powerful.

the sooner we all wake up and see the evil in ALL our governments, the sooner we'll be able to fix this world wide problem.

its not US, its not england, its not sweden, its not australia. its EVERY place that has humans running things. humans make a nice cozy place for themselves and ensure that things are good for the ruling class and less good for those who are not part of this.

why is this ever thought of as nationalistic? again, every country is run by people and people have flaws in their nature that lets 'power corrupt'. we've known this forever, haven't we?

stop believing the propaganda that your country is somehow more free or just than some other. its not true. you only think its true due to brainwashing and the 'us vs them' mentality that countries LOVE to instill in its people.

respect for law means nothing. if you have the money, you can make laws or side-step them. IN EVERY COUNTRY.

Re:Isn't this getting a little silly? (3, Insightful)

number11 (129686) | more than 2 years ago | (#39302577)

The story behind the first raid was pretty ugly. The raid was not going to happen at first because the police saw that no law was being broken by the site or its operators. Politics somehow overruled the law and the raid occurred. The stuff taken was returned and brought back online within a couple of days because it was all quite illegal. It was the US government's influence which was used to push the Swedish government to step beyond its own laws. And we already know who influences the US government to make them push its influence onto other sovereign nations.

Which, parenthetically, shows why Julian Assange is so unenthusiastic about being extradited back to Sweden.

Re:Isn't this getting a little silly? (1)

PReDiToR (687141) | more than 2 years ago | (#39302191)

It isn't about it being the only site that serves up .torrents, it is more about the fact that TPB shoves it right down the throats of those who would oppress them in a very public way.

Lots of people won't use public trackers, lots of people stay away from hi-vis targets like TPB on principle, but you have to hand it to them, they are trying very hard to make sure that people know that laws bought and paid for by some rich corporations in America aren't set in stone around the world without the titular Governmental Apparatus in other countries ratifying them into law there.

Fuck the MAFIAA.

I envy some countries, I'm a resident of Airstrip One.

could you imagine how useful it would be if they.. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39301443)

just encrypt there data that the second it was unplugged it would appear to the naked eye as though no data existed only way it would decrypt would be by GPS location and passwords interesting thing to be able to utilize GPS like that. would start a new way of locking up data. kinda like smart actions on newer Motorola droid Razr. once arrived at home GPS reads I'm home turns on WiFi and opens releases data.

Re:could you imagine how useful it would be if the (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39301477)

What the hell did you just say?

Re:could you imagine how useful it would be if the (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39301647)

After consultation with several linguistic experts, I believe the closest English translation would be:

"I am fucking retarded"

It should be noted though that Retard is difficult to properly translate in it's written form, as it has only 3 known phrases, all of which are spelled identically, which is to say all of which are spelled with any random combination of characters. As such, it's entirely possible the OP was actually trying to say:

"I've done far far too many drugs"

or

"I've stopped taking my medication"

Re:could you imagine how useful it would be if the (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39301597)

What is this I don't even

Re:could you imagine how useful it would be if the (1)

aix tom (902140) | more than 2 years ago | (#39301667)

... get GPS signals in most real server rooms.

Re:could you imagine how useful it would be if the (1)

O('_')O_Bush (1162487) | more than 2 years ago | (#39301689)

Except GPS is trivial to spoof, with hardware or RF, or just supplying the servers' previous coordinates as the key. Passwords are protection, but not against a subpoena, as failing to provide them means automatic jailtime.

Re:could you imagine how useful it would be if the (1)

hoggoth (414195) | more than 2 years ago | (#39301725)

Ridiculous. Using GPS as part of your password is just.... ready for it... a password!
A password cracker would try many different GPS coordinates instead of many different words and letters.
Even easier, because if you have some knowledge of the datas original location the password cracker can try starting at that location and spiraling out from there.

Blocked (5, Informative)

BenV666 (620052) | more than 2 years ago | (#39301459)

Since the piratebay IPs are blocked by my ISP these days (and redirect me to http://www.xs4all.nl/geblokkeerd/ [xs4all.nl] ) I have to use a proxy to get around it.
Here's a link for those of you in the same boat: http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://thepiratebay.se/blog/209 [anonymouse.org]

Re:Blocked (1)

madison_hotel (2466834) | more than 2 years ago | (#39301587)

Anonymouse is blocked by the sysadmin at work, so I still can't access the blog post. Could somebody please post the text in a comment? Thanks.

Re:Blocked (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39301643)

The Blog Post:

New TPB investigation leaked

TPB is not hosted in -insert country here-, as far as we know. "As far as we know?" you might ask! Yes. TPB is set up in a very special way to make sure that it will stay up. This means that noone really knows exactly where the servers are, but we've made sure to stay out of the United States of Arrogance and some other countries where the governments do not like free speech.

The only box someone could find is the one in the front, that needs to be public. We have multiple of those, scattered like diarrhea around the world. They contain no storage device, no graphics card. Only a network cable, a cpu and memory. Being nice people, we've put small easters egg into each box though, for the hard work put into finding that public machine! Nothing dangerous though, just funny.

Even though this means that TPB can never be pin-pointed to a certain country, the Swedish district attorney Fredrik Ingblad initiated a new investigation into The Pirate Bay back in 2010. Information has been leaked to us every now and then by multiple sources, almost on a regular basis. It's an interesting read. We can certainly understand why WikiLeaks wished to be hosted in Sweden, since so much data leaks there. The reason that we get the leaks is usually that the whistleblowers does not agree with what is going on. Something that the governments should have in mind - even your own people does not agree.

Since our recent move to a .SE domain the investigation has been cranked up a notch. We think that the investigation is interesting considering nothing that TPB does is illegal. Rather we find it interesting that a country like Sweden is being so abused by lobbyists and that this can be kept up. They're using scare tactics, putting pressure on the wrong people, like providers and users. All out of fear from the big country in the west, and with an admiration for their big fancy wallets.

We're staying put where we are. We're going no-where. But we have a message to hollywood, the investigators and the prosecutors: LOL.

Re:Blocked (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39302095)

All out of fear from the big country in the west, and with an admiration for their big fancy wallets.

In the west? The USA is even further east than west.

Ask and ye shall receive - Full text of article (4, Informative)

Gazzonyx (982402) | more than 2 years ago | (#39301695)

Leaked: Police Plan to Raid The Pirate Bay ErnestoMarch 9, 2012131 raid,

More than half a decade after Swedish police officers first raided The Pirate Bay, there is talk that a second police raid against the world’s most famous torrent site is in the planning. The Pirate Bay team has learned that local authorities have acquired warrants to take action against the site, and expect that both servers and the new .se domain name may be targeted soon.

In the spring of 2006 a team of 65 Swedish police personnel entered a datacenter in Stockholm. The officers were tasked with shutting down the largest threat to the entertainment industry at the time – The Pirate Bay’s servers.

The raid eventually led to the conviction of four people connected to The Pirate Bay, but the site itself remained online.

Today, the Pirate Bay team has informed TorrentFreak that a second raid is being prepared by the Swedish authorities. The site’s operators, who are well-connected in multiple ways, learned that a team of Swedish investigators is gearing up to move against the site in the future. The suspicions were also made public by The Pirate Bay a few minutes ago. “The Swedish district attorney Fredrik Ingblad initiated a new investigation into The Pirate Bay back in 2010. Information has been leaked to us every now and then by multiple sources, almost on a regular basis. It’s an interesting read,” the Pirate Bay crew notes. “We can certainly understand why WikiLeaks wished to be hosted in Sweden, since so much data leaks there. The reason that we get the leaks is usually that the whistleblowers do not agree with what is going on. Something that the governments should have in mind – even your own people do not agree.” The Pirate Bay team confirmed to TorrentFreak that the announcement is no prank. The authorities have obtained warrants to snoop around in sensitive places and two known anti-piracy prosecutors, Frederick Ingblad and Henrik Rasmusson, are said to be involved. Employing a little psychological warfare aimed at putting the investigators off-balance, the Pirate Bay team has chosen to make the news public to make the authorities aware that they are not the only ones being watched. According to The Pirate Bay team they aren’t doing anything illegal, but nonetheless they noticed that the investigation intensified after the site’s recent move to a .SE domain. “Since our recent move to a .SE domain the investigation has been cranked up a notch. We think that the investigation is interesting considering nothing that TPB does is illegal,” they say. “Rather we find it interesting that a country like Sweden is being so abused by lobbyists and that this can be kept up. They’re using scare tactics, putting pressure on the wrong people, like providers and users. All out of fear from the big country in the west, and with an admiration for their big fancy wallets.” Behind the scenes The Pirate Bay team is working hard to ensure that the site will remain online in the event that servers, domain names and Internet routes are cut off. In this regard The Pirate Bay has learned a valuable lesson from its former operators. Those who are aware of the site’s history know that without a few essential keystrokes in May 2006, The Pirate Bay may not have been here today. When Pirate Bay founder TiAMO heard that something was amiss, he decided to make a full backup of the site before heading off to the datacenter, where he was greeted by dozens of police officers.

TiAMO’s decision to start a backup of the site is probably the most pivotal moment in the site’s history. Because of this backup the Pirate Bay team were able to resurrect the site within three days. If there hadn’t have been a recent backup, things may have turned out quite differently. It was a close call at the time, and a defining moment in the history of the site. The determination to get the site back online as soon as possible set the defiant tone for the years that followed. Today, the site prides itself in being the most resilient torrent site around. In recent years The Pirate Bay has implemented a variety of changes to guarantee that the site remains online. It added several backup domains, placed servers all over the world, and removed resource intensive processes. Earlier this week The Pirate Bay took another important step by removing .torrent files altogether to become a “magnet link” site. As a result, the entire site can now be reduced to a few hundred megabytes, small enough to fit on the tiniest thumb drive. For the police, this makes a successful Pirate Bay raid almost impossible. While they can take steps to put the site out of business briefly, it’s inevitable that it will re-appear in a matter of hours, or days.

Or to use the words of the Pirate Bay team. “We’re staying put where we are. We’re going no-where. But we have a message to hollywood, the investigators and the prosecutors: LOL.”

194.71.107.15 (2)

Artemis3 (85734) | more than 2 years ago | (#39301819)

Perhaps try adding that to your hosts file?

Tor [torproject.org] should also help you bypass censorship.

Re:Blocked (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39301909)

I thought you Dutch guys and especially XS4ALL (an ISP originally setup by hackers and phreaks) would certainly be able hold off this blatant violation of Internet freedom. If you have an IP-based block you seem even more fucked than us in .Be, we have a DNS block which is easily subverted. For now...

Re:Blocked (1)

Rakshasa-sensei (533725) | more than 2 years ago | (#39302027)

There's several seedbox providers these days that will help you get around those blocks. (And keep your IP safe from lawsuits)

Re:Blocked (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39302283)

I bet you its just a DNS block. Try changin you DNS from your ISP to 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4. No need for proxy.

Buy a PirateBay T-shirt (1)

cpu6502 (1960974) | more than 2 years ago | (#39301567)

It may soon become unavailable & a piece of history (collector's item). ;-)

Re:Buy a PirateBay T-shirt (1)

Errol backfiring (1280012) | more than 2 years ago | (#39301783)

Just a thought: will wearing such a T-shirt block you from security cameras?

Re:Buy a PirateBay T-shirt (1)

cpu6502 (1960974) | more than 2 years ago | (#39301977)

LOL good one.

More likely though the Piratebay symbol would get you placed on some Terrorist or SOPA/ACTA/MPAA watch list.

Re:Buy a PirateBay T-shirt (2)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 2 years ago | (#39302105)

Your comment just got you on the list mister.

the first rule of the Terrorist or SOPA/ACTA/MPAA watch list is you dont talk about the Terrorist or SOPA/ACTA/MPAA watch list!

So let's do something about it. (5, Informative)

owenferguson (521762) | more than 2 years ago | (#39301577)

Help with the backup. You can own the entire contents of TPB by downloading just 90MB of magnet links in one torrent here: http://thepiratebay.se/torrent/7016365/The_whole_Pirate_Bay_magnet_archive [thepiratebay.se]

Re:So let's do something about it. (0, Troll)

jellomizer (103300) | more than 2 years ago | (#39301793)

Or you can use that time to find a real job, so you can pay for the software you want... Or find a free open source version.

Re:So let's do something about it. (4, Insightful)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 2 years ago | (#39302123)

Actually you use that time to find out how to emigrate to a country that has reaj jobs. Because here in the USA, there are no jobs that pay enough to afford paying for software, music, movies, etc...

Re:So let's do something about it. (2)

jellomizer (103300) | more than 2 years ago | (#39302207)

Slashdot is a tech site... the Economy is booming for tech workers, right here in the USA. I get a job offer out of the blue every couple weeks.

For the software music and movies... Do you really need those? They sound like frivolousness entertainment to me. Entertainment made my people who work to get paid for their effort. If you cannot afford it... Go without. Or look for a cheaper alternative. By pirating media you are not really making a statement unless you are willing to say I am a cheap bastard and I only get what I can take. If you don't buy the product because is is costing more then you put value to it. Then the companies really get the point more... They monitor the Piracy off their stuff, if they find that it is heavily pirated then they know people like the product, and they find value with it... But pirate channels have given them a spot to get it for free.

Re:So let's do something about it. (5, Insightful)

icebraining (1313345) | more than 2 years ago | (#39302413)

For the software music and movies... Do you really need those? They sound like frivolousness entertainment to me.

Do you really need to post here?

Entertainment made my people who work to get paid for their effort. If you cannot afford it... Go without.

Why? Absolutely no one benefits from you going without instead of downloading.

They monitor the Piracy off their stuff, if they find that it is heavily pirated then they know people like the product, and they find value with it...

You are using Slashdot, so you clearly find value in it. But would you pay $150/month to use Slashdot? If not, why not?

Finding value does NOT mean that 1) it's worth to the person whatever the seller is asking for it, 2) the person can afford it.

Re:So let's do something about it. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39302515)

piss off, wank

Re:So let's do something about it. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39302779)

"They sound like frivolousness entertainment to me" - Everything in life is frivolousness. Human life has no value outside of the artificial value we give to it. The idea that life has value is best for society. Free access to culture/knowledge is also what is best for society. If you don't want what is best of society, then denying people access to culture like Music is a great way to start, but the best way is to just kill everyone.

Yes, I just compared copyright to killing people.

Re:So let's do something about it. (2)

jamstar7 (694492) | more than 2 years ago | (#39302463)

Oh, there are jobs in the US. About 150 million of them, from flipping burgers part time to CEO of General Motors.

Problem is, there are over 300 million people in the US. Also, the jobs you really want take an advanced degree that takes 5-8 years to get plus will put you in hock to the system for the rest of your life, if you're not connected (part of the 'educational process' of that advanced degree is networking with your fellow elites to keep the Good Ol Boys network alive and kicking) or 'elite'. And unless you're connected, ethnic, or visibly disabled (companies get bonus tax breaks for disabled people), you'll not get that job you want.

Re:So let's do something about it. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39302565)

I was where you're at a few years back. You're problem is that you see this as a real problem in the first place. It's only a problem for those who either aren't intelligent enough to understand the system, or for those who don't take enough time to understand it so they can use the system to their benefit. I would guess that you fall into the latter category.

Don't waste your energy playing the victim; use some of your free time investigating how other people have made it. There are so many examples around us that this isn't very difficult. I think you'll find, as I did, that there is very little magic or luck involved. It mostly involves working hard towards a goal, which is why most people fail. They don't want to work hard and they don't have any real goals in the first place.

Once I did a little investigating and set some goals, everything changed for me financially. My belief is now that anyone with an IQ of 100 or more has the opportunity to do very well in the USA, regardless of race or current socioeconomic status.

Re:So let's do something about it. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39302141)

Hell, no. I understand you have no choice but accept a job which takes only a few minutes to get, but please, don't spread your misery all over here. It's disgusting.

Re:So let's do something about it. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39302225)

[Shrug] Free and open source software is all I've ever downloaded from TPB anyway. Well, that and music and videos seeded by the artists themselves.

Yes, you can get illegally-distributed stuff there too. That doesn't mean everyone who uses TPB needs to "find a real job" or needs to "pay for the software you want". Idiot.

Re:So let's do something about it. (1)

cpu6502 (1960974) | more than 2 years ago | (#39302447)

Bah. Humbug. Or as Penn&Teller would say - bullshit. Most movies and TV shows aren't worth paying for anyway. Maybe if there was some way to demand a refund (like you can if you don't like your candybar) but alas there isn't. Therefore I will download the movies/shows FIRST before I go buy them, and thereby avoid wasting my money on crap like Transformers 2.

Oh and I already use open-source software on my computer. Have not purchased a single program since Office 97. In fact I've been using free software since the 8 bit Atari/Commodore days, with very few actual purchases.

Heck even my TV is free (antenna). Why give your hard-earned money to the wealthy megacorps when you don't need to? It's bad enough we are forced to do so via those bailouts. If the item is super-good then I'll buy it to support the artists, but not if it's junk or merely mediocre.

Re:So let's do something about it. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39302607)

Have not purchased a single program since Office 97.

Honest question, when did you buy Office 97? Sure, it came out in 1997, but they continued to sell it for years afterwards (I picked up a copy in 2002).

Another honest question, guessing that does not include the OS that came with any computers you've bought since then?

Re:So let's do something about it. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39302477)

The Matroska video files that you want, are not available at any price. And in US, even if you buy a shiny disc from which to create the file yourself, reading the disc's plaintext is against the law.

They don't want want your money.

And if you defiantly spend your money anyway, they want to prosecute you.

So WTF does this have to do with getting a job and paying for things? What you're saying would have made a lot of sense in 1996, but the situation has gotten a lot more ridiculous since then.

Re:So let's do something about it. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39302489)

If someone doesn't care if the program contains a virus it doesn't seem like they can be enticed to pay, though I can see how you might think they should pay for it to enhance their masochism.

Re:So let's do something about it. (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39302639)

Because free and open source software never is, and cannot be, distributed with magnet files.

Re:So let's do something about it. (2)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | more than 2 years ago | (#39302725)

Nah I think I'll help destroy the MAFIAA instead. Mirrors +1!

Re:So let's do something about it. (1)

Hatta (162192) | more than 2 years ago | (#39301913)

Nice. Now they just need to build in some versioning, so I can hop on one swarm and stay up to date with the entire catalog.

Noooooooo (2)

Mike Mentalist (544984) | more than 2 years ago | (#39301581)

Bog off ya bastids. I uploaded some of my own work there last week.

Hopefully they will leave it there.

Post text for those blocked (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39301649)

New TPB investigation leaked

TPB is not hosted in -insert country here-, as far as we know. "As far as we know?" you might ask! Yes. TPB is set up in a very special way to make sure that it will stay up. This means that noone really knows exactly where the servers are, but we've made sure to stay out of the United States of Arrogance and some other countries where the governments do not like free speech.

The only box someone could find is the one in the front, that needs to be public. We have multiple of those, scattered like diarrhea around the world. They contain no storage device, no graphics card. Only a network cable, a cpu and memory. Being nice people, we've put small easters egg into each box though, for the hard work put into finding that public machine! Nothing dangerous though, just funny.

Even though this means that TPB can never be pin-pointed to a certain country, the Swedish district attorney Fredrik Ingblad initiated a new investigation into The Pirate Bay back in 2010. Information has been leaked to us every now and then by multiple sources, almost on a regular basis. It's an interesting read. We can certainly understand why WikiLeaks wished to be hosted in Sweden, since so much data leaks there. The reason that we get the leaks is usually that the whistleblowers does not agree with what is going on. Something that the governments should have in mind - even your own people does not agree.

Since our recent move to a .SE domain the investigation has been cranked up a notch. We think that the investigation is interesting considering nothing that TPB does is illegal. Rather we find it interesting that a country like Sweden is being so abused by lobbyists and that this can be kept up. They're using scare tactics, putting pressure on the wrong people, like providers and users. All out of fear from the big country in the west, and with an admiration for their big fancy wallets.

We're staying put where we are. We're going no-where. But we have a message to hollywood, the investigators and the prosecutors: LOL.

HA !! FATHERFUCKER QUAKING IN HER BOOTS !! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39301669)

Stupid Irish Pirate doesn't know jack about no shit !! Now that is one stupid lady !!

Text for le blocked (1, Informative)

watermark (913726) | more than 2 years ago | (#39301685)

"New TPB investigation leaked

TPB is not hosted in -insert country here-, as far as we know. "As far as we know?" you might ask! Yes. TPB is set up in a very special way to make sure that it will stay up. This means that noone really knows exactly where the servers are, but we've made sure to stay out of the United States of Arrogance and some other countries where the governments do not like free speech.

The only box someone could find is the one in the front, that needs to be public. We have multiple of those, scattered like diarrhea around the world. They contain no storage device, no graphics card. Only a network cable, a cpu and memory. Being nice people, we've put small easters egg into each box though, for the hard work put into finding that public machine! Nothing dangerous though, just funny.

Even though this means that TPB can never be pin-pointed to a certain country, the Swedish district attorney Fredrik Ingblad initiated a new investigation into The Pirate Bay back in 2010. Information has been leaked to us every now and then by multiple sources, almost on a regular basis. It's an interesting read. We can certainly understand why WikiLeaks wished to be hosted in Sweden, since so much data leaks there. The reason that we get the leaks is usually that the whistleblowers does not agree with what is going on. Something that the governments should have in mind - even your own people does not agree.

Since our recent move to a .SE domain the investigation has been cranked up a notch. We think that the investigation is interesting considering nothing that TPB does is illegal. Rather we find it interesting that a country like Sweden is being so abused by lobbyists and that this can be kept up. They're using scare tactics, putting pressure on the wrong people, like providers and users. All out of fear from the big country in the west, and with an admiration for their big fancy wallets.

We're staying put where we are. We're going no-where. But we have a message to hollywood, the investigators and the prosecutors: LOL.

Posted Today 11:46 by Leakblad"

Re:Text for le blocked (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39301831)

It still amuses me how the phrase "free speech" has somehow been redefined from its original definition of "freedom to speak out against the government or other public organization without repercussion" to mean "explicitly helping download copyrighted materials against the wishes of the copyright holders, plus one or two token Linux distros as a 'legal' front".

Yet everyone gets up in arms and cries like banshees whenever the word "steal" gets "redefined". Way to not look like a bunch of self-centered pricks, you guys. *slow clap*

Re:Text for le blocked (2)

tkrotchko (124118) | more than 2 years ago | (#39302179)

Without getting into the semantics of copyright versus theft, the first amendment does not specify only political speech is free.

Its very very broad.

And before you drag out the old saw about "fire in a crowded theater", those types of exceptions are generally for imminent danger to the public.

The exception was not carved out for "to protect commercial interests".

If you don't like the 1st amendment, try to get it changed.

Re:Text for le blocked (3, Insightful)

cpu6502 (1960974) | more than 2 years ago | (#39302555)

The fire in a theater argument is actually flawed. It was part of the Supreme Court's desire to keep President Wilson happy because the president wanted to lock-up and silence the anti-war protestors and writers (also suffragettes). i.e. They gave the president permission to trample the first amendment.

The Court was wrong. The anti-war people of the time were equivalent to a person standing OUTSIDE a theater and warning people, "Don't go or else you risk dying. It's dangerous." Which is protected speech and a perfectly valid thing to do.

Just as the Supreme Court was wrong to say segregation was legal, the court was wrong to allow President Wilson to silence the anti-war critics and lock them in jail. Or to apply the invalid fire-in-a-theater argument to justify it.

Re:Text for le blocked (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39302629)

Politician would never think about doing it, its pretty much ensures who ever voted to repeal the first amendment would not be reelected. So they just ignore the law by side stepping and using diplomatic means of exterting pressure on countries to do what they want. The US has always done this behind the scenes, just only recently that someone got caught by the public, ie Nixon.

Re:Text for le blocked (1)

LoyalOpposition (168041) | more than 2 years ago | (#39302499)

It still amuses me how the phrase "free speech" has somehow been redefined from its original definition of "freedom to speak out against the government or other public organization without repercussion" to mean "explicitly helping download copyrighted materials against the wishes of the copyright holders, plus one or two token Linux distros as a 'legal' front".

The situation may not be as clear as you imagine. Suppose we agree that legislators are sometimes opposed to free speech because it can cause them to lose their power or wealth. Suppose we also agree that the purpose of copyright is to promote the progress of science and the useful arts by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries. It seems obvious to me that there should be an optimum amount of time for the length of copyright to extend. Anything shorter that that optimum amount of time would insufficiently encourage authors and inventors, and anything longer would excessively inhibit the progress of science and the useful arts.

I have seen a study alluded to that suggests that two years is the optimum amount of time. That suggests to me there there is some reason other than promoting science and the useful arts that the current monopoly length was chosen. It occurs to me that Senator Orin Hatch has been called the Senator from Disney because he has been instrumental in strengthening copyright monopoly in the United States. It also occurs to me that Disney has transferred quite a bit if its wealth to Senator Hatch, possibly in the form of campaign contributions. It also occurs to me that the Senator from Disney would lose much of that income if he came out in favor of a two year copyright term. The Senator from Disney has passed laws that prohibit me from drawing Steamboat Willy in icing on a cake and selling it. I'm not free to express that. If I were to express that then the legislator would get less wealth. I conclude that it's possible that the excessive length of copyright is a freedom of expression issue.

Yet everyone gets up in arms and cries like banshees whenever the word "steal" gets "redefined". Way to not look like a bunch of self-centered pricks, you guys. *slow clap*

Word to the wise...

~Loyal

Thought they were hosted by parliment now? (3, Interesting)

shaitand (626655) | more than 2 years ago | (#39301705)

I was under the impression that the site was hosted by the pirate party as a function of office now and thus gained immunity to prosecution in Sweden?

Re:Thought they were hosted by parliment now? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39301789)

Even if it were, the US government will pull the lever until it moves.

Re:Thought they were hosted by parliment now? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39302299)

Operation : Archimedes.

mo3 3own (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39302007)

take a look At the

How many TB for PB? (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39302501)

The police are panning a new RAID on the pirate bay? Cool! How many TB will they be adding?

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