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Topher Grace Screens Star Wars Prequel Re-edit

Soulskill posted more than 2 years ago | from the applying-a-quality-filter dept.

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silentbrad writes "/Film (as well as IGN and A.V. Club) reports about Topher Grace's fan re-edit of the Star Wars prequel trilogy into a single, 85-minute film titled Star Wars: Episode III.5: The Editor Strikes Back.' Quoting /Film: 'His idea was to edit the Star Wars prequels into one movie, as they would provide him a lot of footage to work with. He used footage from all three prequels, a couple cuts from the original trilogy, some music from The Clone Wars television series, and even a dialogue bit from Anthony Daniels' (C-3PO) audio book recordings. He even created a new opening text crawl to set up his version of the story.' It continues with what stayed and what was cut. It's just too bad it was a one-time-only screening."

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192 comments

Loser. (-1, Troll)

pro151 (2021702) | more than 2 years ago | (#39304819)

Should have stayed in That 70's Show.

What, no torrent? (5, Funny)

bill_mcgonigle (4333) | more than 2 years ago | (#39304833)

He also seems to want to favor storytelling over merchandising, which is a strange and unusual concept.

Re:What, no torrent? (2, Funny)

Jeremiah Cornelius (137) | more than 2 years ago | (#39305523)

This isn't really what your Mother and I had in mind, when you decided to stay here at home.

Dumbass. No wonder Donna dumped you on your sorry butt and left for Madison without looking back.

Should do that with Matrix 2 and 3 (4, Interesting)

cpu6502 (1960974) | more than 2 years ago | (#39304859)

Separate, boring they are.

Together, one good movie it would be.

Re:Should do that with Matrix 2 and 3 (4, Funny)

demonbug (309515) | more than 2 years ago | (#39305033)

Separate, boring they are.

Together, one good movie it would be.

Nah, just cut all three movies together as one. I think the best cut would be about 136 minutes long [imdb.com] .

Re:Should do that with Matrix 2 and 3 (4, Informative)

Rizimar (1986164) | more than 2 years ago | (#39305051)

I'm not sure that editing them down to one movie would even save the sequels. Though, if you want more of The Matrix, The Animatrix has some really good short animations surrounding that universe.

Re:Should do that with Matrix 2 and 3 (0)

cpu6502 (1960974) | more than 2 years ago | (#39305201)

I thought Part 3 was a good ending. It was part 2 that had too many extraneous scenes like dancing and sex and other crap. So I think 2/3 would work best as a single movie. (Probably what the writers originally intended but the studio saw a chance to divide the sequel in half and double profits.)

Re:Should do that with Matrix 2 and 3 (0)

Rizimar (1986164) | more than 2 years ago | (#39305269)

I suppose. Part 2 may have soured me on the rest of it.

Re:Should do that with Matrix 2 and 3 (1, Offtopic)

elgeeko.com (2472782) | more than 2 years ago | (#39305579)

Come on, the highway scene was pretty awesome. If you went into it looking for a great story I can see the disappointment, but as far as action scenes and special effects go I thought it was worth the watch... then again the first movie had a good story AND all the special effects/actions so if you compare the first one to the next two then yeah, I see your point.

Re:Should do that with Matrix 2 and 3 (0)

omnichad (1198475) | more than 2 years ago | (#39305879)

I'm fairly certain I remember correctly that the writers are quoted as saying they would only do the first movie if they could have a trilogy.

Re:Should do that with Matrix 2 and 3 (0)

bill_mcgonigle (4333) | more than 2 years ago | (#39305953)

I thought Part 3 was a good ending

I guess tragedy does have its fans.

Re:Should do that with Matrix 2 and 3 (0)

EdIII (1114411) | more than 2 years ago | (#39306061)

I thought the dancing scene with the techno music was awesome.

You probably could have just used that scene, the highway scene (also awesome), shortened the crap out of the journey to the Architect and made a longer 2nd movie.

Personally, I don't know why they don't do that. I remember the full version of Dune. For something that awesome, a 3 hour movie does not bother me at all.

Re:Should do that with Matrix 2 and 3 (2, Interesting)

Jarik C-Bol (894741) | more than 2 years ago | (#39306321)

I read somewhere that the original concept for the 3 movies is that 'The Matrix' which we know as part 1, was originally supposed to be the middle movie, with the actual 'first' movie supposed to cover the machine war, and subjugation of the humans. However, they decided that the fans would not stand for a matrix movie without the stars from the first one, so that story ended up getting pieced out into 'The Animatrix' and they broke part 3 in half.

based on THAT theory, a re-edit of part 2 and 3 into 1 film might actually work.

Re:Should do that with Matrix 2 and 3 (1, Insightful)

hughJ (1343331) | more than 2 years ago | (#39305447)

If the problem with the prequels were length or pacing then editing them down would help. The problem though is that the screenplay is so weak in characters. If you don't value the friendship or love story, then you can't feel the emotional pay offs to any degree. Editing alone definitely can't fix that. It pretty much needs a top to bottom rewrite.

Re:Should do that with Matrix 2 and 3 (4, Insightful)

Picass0 (147474) | more than 2 years ago | (#39305415)

Nothing can save that sugar-coated ending on the park bench with the Oracle and the children and the sunset.... It's like someone stole the movie I was watching and slipped in Micheal Jackson's 'Moonwalker' movie.

Matrix 2 and 3 are better forgotten. The first movie stands better alone.

Re:Should do that with Matrix 2 and 3 (0)

marnues (906739) | more than 2 years ago | (#39305719)

I've never understood this. All 3 are fantastic action movies wrapped in a painful shell of horrendous sci-fi and philosophy. In fact, if the whole thing were one movie with the only intention of creating a fighting god out of Neo and then mashing all the Neo/Agent Smith fights together, watchability would skyrocket.

Re:Should do that with Matrix 2 and 3 (0)

metacell (523607) | more than 2 years ago | (#39305965)

The philosophy in the first movie made sense... not so the 2nd and 3rd.

Re:Should do that with Matrix 2 and 3 (4, Funny)

BlackSnake112 (912158) | more than 2 years ago | (#39306193)

http://xkcd.com/566/ [xkcd.com]

the last 4 frames.

Should stop putting first sentence in subject line (3, Interesting)

Dogtanian (588974) | more than 2 years ago | (#39305667)

Should do that with Matrix 2 and 3. Separate, boring they are. Together, one good movie it would be.

That's because they *are* a single overlong movie split into two parts in all but name. Even moreso than the explicitly split "Kill Bill" (where you could enjoy each of the parts in its own right due to its more scene-based nature).

More's the pity because, although it clearly wasn't as good as the original, The Matrix Reloaded was still quite good in its own way (if a bit too long)... but clearly a "part 1" that requires you to watch "part 2" to be complete.... except that "part 2" (i.e. Revolutions) was just lousy, and would have been too long at anything over an hour. I'd personally trim Reloaded and hack all but the essentials from Revolutions.

Even then it wouldn't solve the "resolution" of Revolutions which felt less like a satisfying "tying things up" ending and more like an intentionally incomplete and half-baked non-resolution designed to provide a point to expand the franchise (*) from. Ironically, we *haven't* really seen much Matrix-related stuff in the 8+ years since then (I'm sure they've done backstory comics and such guff for the fanboys, but I'm talking about mass market on the same scale as the movies themselves). Is this because it really was intended as the final movie, or because Revolutions' reception was so poor that it seriously damaged the prospects of more Matrix material?

To be honest, part of the problem may always have been that- although "The Matrix" looks on the surface like it should be one of those films that would work well as a franchise (due to the questions and possibilities it throws up and the expanded world it suggests)... it isn't. What worked about the first movie was wrapped up by the end. You can't redo the sense of wonder and discovery that drove the first movie, and once Neo has made that journey he's no longer really the confused and bemused everyman cipher (that Reeves' criticised acting style actually worked really well for), but a knowledgeable Superman in a much larger world (Zion) of characters with bad dialogue we really don't care about.

(*) Ugh, anyone notice how common that word has become in the past decade? We're all using terminology that makes us sound like a mixture of fanboy and corporate studio types. Though of course it's true- such things *are* moneymaking franchises, but it doesn't say much for artistic integrity, nor for us in that we accept and use the term.

Re:Should do that with Matrix 2 and 3 (2)

roc97007 (608802) | more than 2 years ago | (#39305945)

Disagree. The plot was fundamentally broken from the second movie on. My personal theory is that The 13th Floor stole their ending and they had to wing it.

Re:Should do that with Matrix 2 and 3 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39306065)

Separate, boring they are.

Together, one good movie it would be.

Fan-edits exist [fanedit.org] .

Re:Should do that with Matrix 2 and 3 (1)

yodleboy (982200) | more than 2 years ago | (#39306355)

You might be interested to know it has been done.

The Matrix Deionized [fanedit.org]

Ok I'll start.... (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39304867)

Video or it didn't happen.

gay (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39304899)

Topher Grace sucks cocks and is a nerd.

Re:gay (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39305507)

um.... So?

Re:gay (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39305565)

Sounds like the perfect man. Do you have any other praise, or can you just pass me contact details?

Star Wars: The Editor Does His Job (4, Insightful)

Chris Burke (6130) | more than 2 years ago | (#39304937)

Without Being Prevented From Doing So By Lucas

would have been the name of the Star Wars movie about an alternate reality where the prequels were substantially better.

Re:Star Wars: The Editor Does His Job (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39305023)

Forgive me, but if you have a fifty-five gallon drum full of pure water and in it place a dropperful of crud, you have a fifty-five gallon drum full of crud.

In the case of the prequel trilogy, we have a fifty-five gallon drum full of crud with a dropperful of pure water in it. Care to guess what you get, even if you re-edit?

Re:Star Wars: The Editor Does His Job (3, Insightful)

Chris Burke (6130) | more than 2 years ago | (#39305113)

Yeah, an 11 gallon drum of crud and a dropper full of water -- a significantly higher concentration of water.

P.S. don't mistake "better" for "good". :)

Magnet Hash? (1)

Jonah Hex (651948) | more than 2 years ago | (#39304949)

Since Torrent Links are so... last... something! HEX

Interesting concept... (4, Funny)

Oswald McWeany (2428506) | more than 2 years ago | (#39304971)

Interesting concept... could never happen for legal reasons... but I'd be intrigued if people could "cut n' paste" scenes from OTHER films into a meaningfull order to make it look like another star wars film.

For example- Take Ford from the Tom Clancy Films- and Indiana Jones; cut and paste them together- with a few special affects and make it look like episode 7.

C3P0 could be in episode 7- just rip scenes of Rex from "Yo Gabba Gabba". Mark Hamil has been in so many block buster films since Star Wars- should be easy to get footage of him to use.

Re:Interesting concept... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39305095)

Interesting concept... could never happen for legal reasons...

Of course it can happen. It probably already has. There's a thriving (some might say obsessive) fan-editing community, particularly around Star Wars. George Lucas is, by all accounts, pretty cool about it as long as no-one's trying to get rich.

Re:Interesting concept... (2)

Em Adespoton (792954) | more than 2 years ago | (#39305699)

Interesting concept... could never happen for legal reasons...

Of course it can happen. It probably already has. There's a thriving (some might say obsessive) fan-editing community, particularly around Star Wars. George Lucas is, by all accounts, pretty cool about it as long as no-one else's trying to get rich.

FTFY

Re:Interesting concept... (2)

Jason Levine (196982) | more than 2 years ago | (#39305175)

Yes, but Luke laughing like the Joker would just be creepy.

Re:Interesting concept... (3, Informative)

K. S. Kyosuke (729550) | more than 2 years ago | (#39305319)

...but I'd be intrigued if people could "cut n' paste" scenes from OTHER films into a meaningfull order to make it look like another star wars film.

You mean something like this [youtube.com] ?

Re:Interesting concept... (3, Funny)

jason.sweet (1272826) | more than 2 years ago | (#39305467)

Mark Hamil has been in so many block buster films

As long as everyone is OK with a land speeder that looks like a Corvette.

Re:Interesting concept... (1)

omnichad (1198475) | more than 2 years ago | (#39305929)

Wish granted:
Tie-Tanic [youtube.com]

Although this is actually a CG mashup of Star Wars and Titanic, it's pretty hilarious to watch.

Link to movie (2)

Galestar (1473827) | more than 2 years ago | (#39304981)

Can we get a link to where we can watch Episode III.5?

Make something new (0, Troll)

DNS-and-BIND (461968) | more than 2 years ago | (#39304995)

Oh, for fuck's sake, STOP REMIXING OLD CRAP. It won't be good, ever. You can't put lipstick on a pig. Take this "creative energy" (i.e. making entertainment product) and put it towards something actually useful. Have you considered learning calculus? It is immensely more rewarding, moreover it is the language of science. You know, that "science" stuff that everyone is always in favor of? Just think of the civilizational advances that would come from learning mathematics instead of motion picture editing. Ah, who am I kidding? We all know the future is in entertainment where nobody can say you're wrong...not like those despicable hard sciences where conclusions are falsifiable.

Re:Make something new (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39305057)

So you failed an art class in college because you lack any artistic creativity*. Get over it. Please don't vent all over the comments on an article where someone actually HAS some creativity.

*: Alternatively, "So you had a bad breakup with an artist".

Re:Make something new (0)

DNS-and-BIND (461968) | more than 2 years ago | (#39305315)

Uh, no. Please, for the love of God, stop assuming everyone has the same preconceptions as you. "Creativity" = ability to entertain other humans.

Re:Make something new (1)

marnues (906739) | more than 2 years ago | (#39305773)

Creativity (no quotes required) is the ability of a human to create. Entertainment from the creation is another issue entirely.

Re:Make something new (1)

PCM2 (4486) | more than 2 years ago | (#39305891)

Uh, no. Please, for the love of God, stop assuming everyone has the same preconceptions as you. "Creativity" = ability to entertain other humans.

No, actually. Not in the slightest. So for the love of god, find a dictionary.

Re:Make something new (1)

Gilmoure (18428) | more than 2 years ago | (#39306143)

I prefer the fictionary!

Hey, I just made up that word. I is creatives!

Re:Make something new (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39305451)

DNS-and-BIND seems very angry, so I'm gonna go with "failed an art class in college due to a bad breakup with an artist".

Re:Make something new (5, Interesting)

Chris Burke (6130) | more than 2 years ago | (#39305067)

The goal wasn't to make the prequels not suck. He's learning about editing film, and used the prequels as a medium to do so (and probably make a great test case to show both the potential and limitations of post-production editing).

Calculus and science are great, but I don't think everyone should do that and nobody should do art. Once you accept that the entire concept of movies aren't pointless, then learning about editing is a useful skill.

Re:Make something new (2)

sexconker (1179573) | more than 2 years ago | (#39305339)

The goal wasn't to make the prequels not suck. He's learning about editing film, and used the prequels as a medium to do so (and probably make a great test case to show both the potential and limitations of post-production editing).

Calculus and science are great, but I don't think everyone should do that and nobody should do art. Once you accept that the entire concept of movies aren't pointless, then learning about editing is a useful skill.

Please.
He watched some film student sit at a Mac cutting shit together in Final Cut Pro.

Re:Make something new (1)

Chris Burke (6130) | more than 2 years ago | (#39305485)

He watched some film student sit at a Mac cutting shit together in Final Cut Pro.

Who are you talking about?

"He" is the film student who was learning about editing by doing it.

Re:Make something new (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39305855)

Movies = entertainment. Science = not entertainment.

It's hilarious [and sad, actually] how the other respondents of this thread assume anyone who disagrees with the prevailing narrative MUST BE some sort of person who wasn't GOOD ENOUGH to be an entertainer. Like, seriously, no. What a total failure of imagination. Small reference pools. But dare to disagree, and you'll be labeled as one of THOSE PEOPLE.

Oh my God, I just did it, didn't I? ALL CAPS, disagreeing with the prevailing narrative, daring to tell the Emperor he is stark naked? Now I'll NEVER get invited to the Kappa Beta Phi [or whatever the fuck the RTF equivalent might be] homecoming party! I'm a failure, a total failure! Boo hoo hoo! Because if I'm not an artist, I might as well be a crack-ass plumber! You know what they say about societies that value good plumbers over good artists...[yikes!]

Re:Make something new (0)

geekoid (135745) | more than 2 years ago | (#39305311)

How manyn peope beciome scientist andengineers because of star trek?

" You can't put lipstick on a pig."
I must, disAgree withyou mY good man. With the patented Frink 3000 piglipstick-abaug , you most certainly can.

Or to be more modern.

"You see Perry the platypus, people say you can't put lipstick on a pig, but with my Piglipstickanator, you can. Once peoples see how cute pigs look with lipstick, they won't eat pork. And as you know, Bacon is this economic back bone of the tri-state area... there's more, but you see where I'm going with this."

Re:Make something new (2)

KhabaLox (1906148) | more than 2 years ago | (#39305573)

Have you considered learning calculus?

Have you considered learning editing? Topher Grace has.

Re:Make something new (3, Insightful)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 2 years ago | (#39306027)

Film editing is a profession that requires both talent and experience. He's developing his abilities towards that goal, and if he can 'polish the turd', so to speak, he'll be able to demonstrate his talent. He could end up doing what he wants for a living.

Basically what I'm trying to say we all know you're not curing cancer, getting us into space, or solving world hunger, so just sit down and shut up.

Re:Make something new (1)

Gilmoure (18428) | more than 2 years ago | (#39306169)

*golf clap*

Re:Make something new (1)

metacell (523607) | more than 2 years ago | (#39306331)

STOP REMIXING OLD CRAP. It won't be good, ever. You can't put lipstick on a pig.

I disagre... putting new special effects in the original trilogy, like Lucas did, is like putting lipstick on a pig. But re-editing a film can make the story and pacing different, and make it considerably better or worse. Plus, when you trim three films down to one, you have more options.

Laugh (1)

koan (80826) | more than 2 years ago | (#39305019)

You can't edit out bad acting Topher.

Re:Laugh (3, Funny)

Oswald McWeany (2428506) | more than 2 years ago | (#39305159)

Sure you can... ... although admittedly Episode 4 would be a little strange without the Luke character appearing in it at all.

Re:Laugh (1)

sexconker (1179573) | more than 2 years ago | (#39305361)

You can't edit out bad acting Topher.

The season of That 70s Show without Eric says otherwise.
Of course, that didn't edit IN anything worthwhile, either.

Re:Laugh (1)

godrik (1287354) | more than 2 years ago | (#39305697)

yes you can!

rm -rf /scratch/footage_dump/

One Word (2)

HoboCop (987492) | more than 2 years ago | (#39305041)

NnoooooOOooooooOooooooOOoooooooooo!

Re:One Word (3, Funny)

demonlapin (527802) | more than 2 years ago | (#39305087)

I believe that's spelled "DO NOT WANT".

Re:One Word (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39305097)

And there was a great disturbance in the Force as if millions of fans were screaming in agony.

So what's the point of telling us? (3, Insightful)

SilverJets (131916) | more than 2 years ago | (#39305167)

He can't release it or George will sue him into oblivion. We'll never get to see it. So why even tell us it exists?

Re:So what's the point of telling us? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39305203)

Theoretically it could inspire someone who actually has balls to undertake a similar endeavour.

Re:So what's the point of telling us? (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 2 years ago | (#39305241)

But a construction worker might see a disk lying on a counter and torrent it. Plausible deniability.

Re:So what's the point of telling us? (1)

fahrbot-bot (874524) | more than 2 years ago | (#39305777)

He can't release it or George will sue him into oblivion. We'll never get to see it. So why even tell us it exists?

The lesson I took from telling us is that George *could* have made better movies if he had concentrated less on merchandising angles, dumbing things down for toddlers and whatever else is rattling around in his addled brain - like making Han shoot first - and concentrate more on telling a good, crisp, clean and, perhaps, semi-adult story. While the original three Star Wars films are not perfect, they're an order of magnitude better than the prequels, especially considering they were made using a lot less technology and resources.

Re:So what's the point of telling us? (5, Interesting)

PCM2 (4486) | more than 2 years ago | (#39305861)

Why can't he release a detailed list of every edit he made (allowing someone else with a nonlinear editing suite, lots of time on his hands, and fewer qualms about BitTorrent to piece it together)? Surely he kept records, if he's studying to be an editor?

Re:So what's the point of telling us? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39305889)

Because slashdot is shit, and they post non-stories all the time.

Re:So what's the point of telling us? (1)

omnichad (1198475) | more than 2 years ago | (#39305971)

But he could release an edit list script, that would take ripped movies and cut them in the correct order and produce the final movie output (provided there's no effects). Of course, you'd have to add the disclaimer that you should never ever rip the DVD's and actually run the script.

Hater? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39305199)

Normally, I would write this off as nerd hate. Don't like Lucas? Masturbate to your own fanmade films. Don't go and mess with Lucas's vision, he does enough of that on his own. But, this is a study of editing? Then, it's a pretentious study. The thought that student know-how exceeds that of a multi billion dollar franchise? Re-edit something contemporary, Michael Bay could use one. Tarantino too! My point is that this is a wasted effort. All it does is add to the cliche that Star Wars dorks are jihadists. When Trekkies look sane in comparison it is time to search out a new obsession. J.J. Abrams did an okay job with Star Trek. Nothing could please the Star Wars dork.

Torrent here (0, Troll)

geekoid (135745) | more than 2 years ago | (#39305229)

http://tinyurl.com/2g9mqh [tinyurl.com]

move quick

Re:Torrent here (1)

Lord Kano (13027) | more than 2 years ago | (#39305293)

LIES

Magnet link (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39305395)

Here's a magnet link that may last longer. But I think it's only a clip.

magnet:?xt=urn:btih:DWVMSVWSA2YSSGNCYIKO3WK722VPMCNH

Machete needs a fan edit (2)

SethJohnson (112166) | more than 2 years ago | (#39305243)

Someone needs to edit down Robert Rodriguez's movie, Machete [rottentomatoes.com] . The original concept was great. When he unnecessarily extended the story to fit all the Hollywood celebrities on screen, the movie goes downhill. Booth was a terrific character. When he dies, the movie should end. Fin.

Oh, but keep that scene in there where Danny Trejo is in the swimming pool with the topless women.

Seth

Re:Machete needs a fan edit (4, Funny)

PCM2 (4486) | more than 2 years ago | (#39305927)

Yeah. That movie would have been better if it was about the length of a trailer inserted into the middle of another movie.

Want! (1)

CokoBWare (584686) | more than 2 years ago | (#39305249)

Man this would be fun to watch!

ow To Fix The Phantom Menace In 12 Minutes (3, Interesting)

SpryGuy (206254) | more than 2 years ago | (#39305283)

Listening to this guy describe how he would change the first prequel is really interesting... it would actually make for a pretty decent movie.

I'd love see his take on the subsequent two movies.

This 12 minute video is totally worth your time:

http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2012/02/how-to-fix-the-phantom-menace-in-12-minutes/ [gizmodo.com.au]

Re:ow To Fix The Phantom Menace In 12 Minutes (1)

MozeeToby (1163751) | more than 2 years ago | (#39305403)

I agree, I stumbled on that the other day and watched it all the way through. I was more interested and engaged in his verbal telling of the story than I ever was in any of the prequels. It is exactly what the prequel should have been, with surprisingly minimal changes to the overarching plot... if I were a movie producer in a world with loose copyright and trademark laws I'd greenlight his version in a heartbeat.

It'll be released eventually (1)

Anita Coney (648748) | more than 2 years ago | (#39305329)

If there's one thing George Lucus loves is DVD/Blu-ray releases. Eventually he'll release it to make a few extra bucks.

Who's Topher Grace? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39305363)

Am I supposed to have heard of this guy, or what? Because, I have not.

Re:Who's Topher Grace? (2)

SilverJets (131916) | more than 2 years ago | (#39305429)

Red Forman's son on That '70s Show.

the prequels are (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39305495)

crap.

Description Not Copywritable (3, Interesting)

Fieryphoenix (1161565) | more than 2 years ago | (#39305505)

Mr. Grace should be able to "release" his version, not directly, but by describing what sections of each source were used. For instance, something like this made up example: "Scene 1, five segments, 5 minutes 10 seconds. First Segment: Episode I Blu-ray, begin 1 hour 1 minute and 11 seconds, end 1 hour 3 minutes 52 seconds. Second Segment: Episode II Collector's Edition Blu-ray Deleted Scenes, "Meditation", begin 32 seconds, end 1 minute 2 seconds." etc etc.

Re:Description Not Copywritable (1)

Crookdotter (1297179) | more than 2 years ago | (#39305799)

In these days of high horsepower CPU and quick app development, surely there is a program to format edits correctly based on timecodes, and input the movies, and it spits out your edited movie? Add in a few effects maybe like fades and wipes, what else would be needed? Surely this would bring editing to the masses where the community provide the timecodes for it, and the end user self edits the source. That's not copyright violation is it?

Re:Description Not Copywritable (1)

omnichad (1198475) | more than 2 years ago | (#39306003)

As long as you release the edit script with a big disclaimer that basically says "DON'T USE IT," you're probably fine.

Re:Description Not Copywritable (1)

Pope (17780) | more than 2 years ago | (#39306285)

He could upload an EDL to pastebin with no violation.

Re:Description Not Copywritable (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39305887)

That's called an edit decision list, and it's usually software specific and always requires the original source material that is accurate down to the frame.

Re:Description Not Copywritable (1)

Ichijo (607641) | more than 2 years ago | (#39306031)

And the hardware to apply a list of edits to a DVD while it's playing already exists [wikipedia.org] , too!

Re:Description Not Copywritable (2)

Animats (122034) | more than 2 years ago | (#39306271)

Right. That's called an "edit decision list". It would be amusing to have a setup where you could order all the components from Netflix, then run a program which assembled them appropriately. Lucas still gets paid, and Jar-Jar gets cut out.

An old saying (3, Funny)

rudy_wayne (414635) | more than 2 years ago | (#39305521)

The editing done by Topher Grace is typically referred to as "Polishing A Turd".

Re:An old saying (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39305649)

You can't polish a turd, but you can roll it in glitter.

Re:An old saying (1)

omnichad (1198475) | more than 2 years ago | (#39306023)

So you've seen the Blu-Ray releases of the Star Wars series, then, haven't you?

Re:An old saying (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39306137)

But the Mythbusters can!
http://mythbustersresults.com/end-with-a-bang

Re:An old saying (1)

DarthBart (640519) | more than 2 years ago | (#39305733)

I read the headline + first part of the article summary. I thought some fan of Topher's had some how edited him into the movies. I was hoping for Darth Vader calling him a dumbass and then using the Force to make him stick his own foot up his ass.

Re:An old saying (1)

Pope (17780) | more than 2 years ago | (#39306301)

To be called a dumbass he'd have to be edited into Star Trek movies.

Re:An old saying (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39305829)

Mythbusters showed this was possible.

*IAA (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39305591)

So he'll be sued and/or jailed soon, yes?

Including the first one? (1)

Hentes (2461350) | more than 2 years ago | (#39305715)

He used footage from all three prequels, a couple cuts from the original trilogy, some music from The Clone Wars television series, and even a dialogue bit from Anthony Daniels' (C-3PO) audio book recordings.

He used parts of the first one, that most of us desperately tried to forget? If he was in need of material he should have used the deleted scenes [youtube.com] from episode 3, they tell a much deeper story than the final one.

Re:Including the first one? (1)

metacell (523607) | more than 2 years ago | (#39306353)

Just because the first movie was bad, it doesn't mean the individual *scenes* were bad. The same scene can be part of very different stories.

Hayden's best parts (1)

roc97007 (608802) | more than 2 years ago | (#39306125)

So, I'm assuming they cut Hayden Christensen's part down to only the parts he did well, right?

So, he's no longer in the movie, right?

Remember the old days... (1)

sootman (158191) | more than 2 years ago | (#39306127)

... when copyrights expired in a reasonable amount of time, the public domain existed, it was legal to do this kind of stuff after a film had been out for few years?

Me either, but I gather it was pretty cool.

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