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For Sale: Internet Spying Business Developed For Gaddafi

Soulskill posted more than 2 years ago | from the owner-only-drove-it-on-sundays-and-the-other-days dept.

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itwbennett writes "French computer company Bull Group is looking to sell off the Internet spying software business of its subsidiary Amesys. The Eagle system, which was 'designed to build databases supporting lawful interception activities on the Internet,' has an interesting pedigree, having been 'developed for Libya after signing a 2007 contract with the regime there,' according to the WSJ."

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I'm sure someone will find a use for it (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39305465)

Expect a bid from a US-government backed shell corporation any day now.

Re:I'm sure someone will find a use for it (1)

zlives (2009072) | more than 2 years ago | (#39306263)

much better software already implemented!!

Re:I'm sure someone will find a use for it (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39306901)

The people who planned to sell this software to Ghadaffi need to be jailed. If the French authorities won't do it, then citizens who care about Democracy need to take justice into their own hands!

Governement support (2)

manu0601 (2221348) | more than 2 years ago | (#39309019)

Current France's president is quite unlikely to support that kind of investigation, given how close it got with Ghadaffi [google.fr] . We can be confident that french authorities validated the sell of this software. Fortunately, president Sarkozy is about to be shown the door on upcoming elections.

Re:I'm sure someone will find a use for it (1)

Capitaine (2026730) | more than 2 years ago | (#39311035)

Well, to be jailed, they should have done something illegal. Being French, I know the French government sometime take liberties with the rule of law but I would prefer them to avoid it. The bid was backed by French government and was aimed at "fight against terror". Being unethical doesn't make it illegal. The problem comes more from politicians than arms dealers.

Libyan Intelligence System should be valuable (3, Funny)

retroworks (652802) | more than 2 years ago | (#39305469)

It's never even been used.

Canada might be interested in buying this (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39305471)

If Bill C-11 passes, I imagine the government would love to have a unit like this to police the internets.

Re:Canada might be interested in buying this (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39305607)

How Canada should retaliate ? Should they send horses and soldiers armed with sticks ?

Re:Canada might be interested in buying this (2)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 2 years ago | (#39307025)

Canadian swat team: (knocks on door) Sir? I have to ask you nicely to open this door at your earliest possible moment, or I will be forced to ask you nicely again!

Re:Canada might be interested in buying this (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39307071)

The Federal Conservative government spent nearly a billion dollars on the G20 meeting in Canada. Other countries like the US and France can get away with spending only $30 million or so. One theory is that those piles of cash went into paramilitary-style training and equipment for participating police forces.

So they're more likely to chuck a grenade through the window than to knock politely on the door.

Re:Canada might be interested in buying this (1)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 2 years ago | (#39311101)

Unless politicians are a lot different in Canada, I have a pretty good hunch just where that money went.

Fuck those faggot froggies (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39305491)

French motherfuckers can suck my joystick.

Agreed, it's all the France's fault. (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39305665)

They should have never rescued the US, which subsequently evolved into the "great Satan", from Great Britain. The US is a horrid miserable failed experiment and is the root of the majority of the world's evil.

Fucking losers.

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By the way, Mr. Troll, you seem to have homo-erotic fantasies. They're almost inevitably rooted in suppressed desire. You are probably a gay troll, whether you know it or not. It doesn't bother me, I'm hetero and I don't feel threatened, but given your apparent attitude, you must kill yourself. Please do so at your earliest opportunity.

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By the way, Mr. Troll, you seem to have homoerotic fantasies. They're almosr inevitably rooted in surpressed desire. You are probably a gay troll, whether you know it or not. It doesn't bother me, I'm hetero and I don't feel threatened, but given your apparent attitude, you must kill yourself. Please do so at your earliest opportunity.

Re:Agreed, it's all the France's fault. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39308541)

Looks like an american jackboot modded this one. They're the only people that still don't realize that their own country has been completely fscked by fascists.

They're in the denial stage of grieving for their dead country.

Re:Fuck those faggot froggies (1, Troll)

lightknight (213164) | more than 2 years ago | (#39308955)

Shush. They make excellent cheeses, which is more than enough reason to keep them in good company.

Re:Fuck those faggot froggies (1)

lightknight (213164) | more than 2 years ago | (#39315421)

Why the down-vote? They do make excellent cheeses.

Armovore + Degban have both expressed an interest (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39305519)

in order to make their DMCA take down requests 99% more accurate than they have been to date!

Partial trade embargos never work (1)

Nutria (679911) | more than 2 years ago | (#39305553)

Even if my "virtuous" country had barred it's companies from working for Teh Eevil, some other not no virtuous country's companies will be more than willing to do the work (and employ it's workers at the same time).

Re:Partial trade embargos never work (1)

__Paul__ (1570) | more than 2 years ago | (#39305673)

Yeah, because unemployment is so much more important than ethics.

Fuck it, let's allow our private corporations to supply goods (weapons) and services (intelligence) to terrorist states too. It'll help fix the unemployment problem, and if we don't do it, someone else will!

Re:Partial trade embargos never work (1)

slick7 (1703596) | more than 2 years ago | (#39305949)

Yeah, because unemployment is so much more important than ethics.

Fuck it, let's allow our private corporations to supply goods (weapons) and services (intelligence) to terrorist states too. It'll help fix the unemployment problem, and if we don't do it, someone else will!

Look what happened to Gaddafi, thanks to the Rothschild banksters. Go ahead, use the program, and you'll end up just like him, besides, the Promise software has done and can do more damage than anyone realizes.

Re:Partial trade embargos never work (2)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 2 years ago | (#39307007)

Damn straight, let capitalism sort it out. It will create jobs, both in the weapons industry as well as the military, and as a side benefit, those military positions get freed up every now and then and have to be restocked with more unemployed people.

The system works!

Re:Partial trade embargos never work (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39312711)

Every single network equipment manufacturer (NEM) in the world has to provide "lawful intercept" mechanisms for governments. It's true for Cisco, Check Point, F5, and all and any of them. Your company can easily install a certificate that'll be pushed on your PC from the domain and look into any encrypted traffic they like. Having the ability is not the same thing as actually doing it, and there are local laws to prevent that. But who's to say every single company follows the law?

Patents (2)

rabenja (919226) | more than 2 years ago | (#39305563)

...ensues long patent lawsuits from Google and Facebook...

I'm busy and don't have much time to troll (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39305609)

faggots.

Re:I'm busy and don't have much time to troll (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39305919)

If only more trolls had lives.

plenty of competition (2)

dutchwhizzman (817898) | more than 2 years ago | (#39305663)

It's not like you can't already buy software for that. Most of the suppliers for these have a long list of non disclosed governmental agencies of various countries as their customers. I'm fairly certain most will also have sold their product to regimes that were considered "okay" at the time but fell from grace later on.

buy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39305701)

Anyone want to go halfs with me?

I'm glad I'm not involved (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39305717)

I worked, briefly, for a now defunct HPC company who were partners with Bull, and had contracts with various three letter agencies around the world. I'd always refused to work for "defence" companies before, and naive little me didn't quite twig at the time that the majority of super computers weren't exactly being used to cure cancer. It made me feel very dirty once I realised what a lot of the customers were using their systems for.

See yeah, the news that Bull were contracted to spy for the Libyans doesn't surprise me, and I'm very glad that I don't work in that industry any more.

Who will buy? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39305835)

I know that there will be many buyers. The question is "Who?". It will be interesting to find out their identity. Maybe Anonymous can find out because the corporation will probably want to keep the list of their customers secret.

Reviews (2)

Crasoose (1621969) | more than 2 years ago | (#39306049)

Pretty sure it would be easy to dissuade a potential buyer, their only review from a satisfied customer was his last video entry to the world.

Good for them (1)

SolitaryMan (538416) | more than 2 years ago | (#39306961)

Lucky there is a still huge (and growing) market for that!

I guess they'll have to find a new buyer (1)

Arancaytar (966377) | more than 2 years ago | (#39309409)

Since Gaddafi is, you know, sorta dead.

But luckily, there is no end of customers who want this stuff - and they probably don't even have to look overseas.

No pride in these products, eh? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39310001)

I must wonder...

Wasn't it a great product as long as Gaddafi was legitimate? And now it isn't, anymore? Awww...

Re:No pride in these products, eh? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39310057)

Aww man Lybia was the shit.. those guys used duct tape to mount fucking machine guns on their SUV's... XZibit would have shat bricks.. 8 months madmax2 on al'jaeera...

Let's start collecting! (1)

amix (226257) | more than 2 years ago | (#39317237)

So, let's get our hands on this. Maybe the EFF will jump in and we can turn the steering wheel. It most probably has been developed to spy on fellow citizens and suppress their human rights, but who said billion dollar companies would have them? ;-) We could use it to find out, what Grand Inquisitors Google and Facebook is doing exactly with our data.
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