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Julian Assange To Run For Australian Senate

Soulskill posted more than 2 years ago | from the say-what-now dept.

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New submitter bozman8 writes "Announced recently on social networking platform Twitter, Julian Assange has found a way to run for the Upper House of the Australian Senate, despite being detained under house arrest in Britain. Along with Julian's candidacy, WikiLeaks has announced that they are going to run a nominee against current Prime Minister Julia Gillard in her local electorate."

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To that I say.... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39393759)

SHUT UP AND TAKE MY VOTE!

Re:To that I say.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39395111)

But Julia Gillard is quite a MILF...

Go Assange! (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39393761)

Go Assange! I wonder if they would trust him with secret documents!

Re:Go Assange! (5, Funny)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 2 years ago | (#39394055)

He already has them.

Re:Go Assange! (1)

Lennie (16154) | more than 2 years ago | (#39394789)

Atleast now he knows not to use the same private key for different purposes like last time.

Yeah...I don't like this. (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39393765)

Whistleblowers and muckrakers shouldn't be a part of the government.

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes and all that rot.

Re:Yeah...I don't like this. (3, Insightful)

DesScorp (410532) | more than 2 years ago | (#39393767)

Whistleblowers and muckrakers shouldn't be a part of the government.

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes and all that rot.

You're assuming that he's a reformer. I think he's an attention whore. If I'm right, politics is the perfect profession for him.

Re:Yeah...I don't like this. (5, Insightful)

Ihmhi (1206036) | more than 2 years ago | (#39393799)

An attention whore who gets said attention by exposing the flat-out evil things all of our governments do on a near-daily basis.

At least he does something for society compared to any of those reality show retards.

Re:Yeah...I don't like this. (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39393831)

An attention whore who gets said attention by exposing the flat-out evil things all of our governments do on a near-daily basis.

At least he does something for society compared to any of those reality show retards.

Close! He's an attention whore who gets attention by exposing the things all governments do on a near-daily basis and pretending that they're flat-out evil. If they don't seem evil enough, just edit the videos until they do. Journalistic ethics should never stand between a whore and his attention.

Re:Yeah...I don't like this. (3, Insightful)

Luckyo (1726890) | more than 2 years ago | (#39393867)

Because US government goes around shooting journalists and kids from attack helicopters on near-daily basis and then cover it all up.

What?

Re:Yeah...I don't like this. (0, Troll)

cold fjord (826450) | more than 2 years ago | (#39394013)

Since you're badly confused, and misinformed, this should help:

    'Collateral Murder' in Baghdad Anything But [weeklystandard.com]

Re:Yeah...I don't like this. (5, Informative)

Confusedent (1913038) | more than 2 years ago | (#39394077)

I'm sorry, did you forget about the part where the US government covered it up and lied to Reuters about the investigation? Do you particularly think it's all ok just because it was in their "Rules of Engagement"? If the government says that torturing and killing your family is part of their "Rules of Engagement," is that ok with you? Weekly Standard is neoconservative propaganda founded by News Corp and supported solely by people like Rupert Murdoch (according to Wikipedia the magazine has NEVER been profitable, citing the NY Times), the same liars who spread the same government propaganda that started the Iraq War (remember those WMDs? Whatever happened to those, hm?). US apologists make me sick.

Re:Yeah...I don't like this. (5, Insightful)

cheaphomemadeacid (881971) | more than 2 years ago | (#39394317)

Yeah! right! And you are also confused about the drones in pakistan, when they crash a terrorist wedding (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drone_attacks_in_Pakistan). But good thing that the U.S could make us those magic drones, somehow, whoever those drones kill, they magically become terrorists post mortem. So, these drones are only used for antiterrorist purposes!

Re:Yeah...I don't like this. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39394957)

God, I wish I haven't read that article.

Sooo... Your argument is, they go around shooting journalists and kids from attack helicopters on nearly basis by accident and then cover it all up?

Look, I don't know why everyone is so keen on missing this fact, but, we are in a privileged position of having watched that video. Do you think it's the only incident that ever happened? What's the possibility of such a video being leaked? Let's say 1/l. And what ratio of all incidents are recorded? 1/r. Do you think all l*r incidents were by accident? How about the torture? How about mercy killings? How about the lies that weren't as blatant as the WMD lies?

Re:Yeah...I don't like this. (3, Informative)

cold fjord (826450) | more than 2 years ago | (#39394063)

Case Closed: Weapons Clearly Seen on Video of Reuters Reporters Killed in Iraq [mypetjawa.mu.nu]
You may want to read the documents from the official investigation [scribd.com] which are seen at the bottom or the link above.

Re:Yeah...I don't like this. (-1, Offtopic)

Forty Two Tenfold (1134125) | more than 2 years ago | (#39394777)

FTFY. Iraqis were on their turf. US genocidal invaders had no interest being there. Yet, they were, used chemical weapons, shot at everything that moved - militants, women, children and made jokes about it.

Re:Yeah...I don't like this. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39395195)

People with arms in Iraq... one doesn't suspect such a thing.

Likewise, Mr. Fascist, I bet this means all Iraqis are in their right to kill every American with arms in the USA?

Re:Yeah...I don't like this. (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39394073)

Close! He's an attention whore who gets attention by exposing the things all governments do on a near-daily basis and pretending that they're flat-out evil. If they don't seem evil enough, just edit the videos until they do. Journalistic ethics should never stand between a whore and his attention.

Just like mainstream journalists then. Yet they aren't being detained, because they tell the right lies.
While wikileaks is in no way immune to this, mainstream journalism is much worse.

You shouldn't just trust any information, whether that's your local newspaper or wikileaks. Get all the facts from all sources, and make up your own mind.

That said, think about this : if all goverments are doing such a good job, and aren't evil at all, why is there so much suffering,poverty and violence in this world.
And what can YOU do about it ?

Re:Yeah...I don't like this. (2)

91degrees (207121) | more than 2 years ago | (#39394127)

Just like mainstream journalists then. Yet they aren't being detained, because they tell the right lies.

That, and they aren't charged with unrelated crimes. The ones that are charged with unrelated crimes tend to be arrested and tried.

Re:Yeah...I don't like this. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39394573)

"At least he does something for society compared to any of those reality show retards."

May be a little more respect for the political elite is is order don't you think?

Re:Yeah...I don't like this. (0, Offtopic)

jellomizer (103300) | more than 2 years ago | (#39394699)

By flat-out evil you mean things like... Leaders from other countries acting like spoiled brats when a camera is not in front of them with. Or in a war that innocent people die and the government doesn't want to release the official numbers and the names of the troops who are still in harms way? Kinda evil.

You must live in Lollipop Land if you conseder that Flat-out-evil.

I am sorry the real world people are jerks, they are not evil just self entitled. And people die in war, when you have a war with a terrorist organization the line between civilian and insurgent is thin mistakes are made. The stuff that Wikileaks released anyone with a half a mind knew it was going on anyways. All he did was put troops in danger.

Hey that can be his headline. Vote for me, I'll put our allied troops in danger just because I don't like war.

Re:Yeah...I don't like this. (2)

Hatta (162192) | more than 2 years ago | (#39395113)

And people die in war, when you have a war with a terrorist organization the line between civilian and insurgent is thin mistakes are made.

Which is why we should cover casualties, military and civilian, accidental and intentional, as much as possible. The more aware people are of this simple fact, the less likely they will be to tolerate war.

Vote for me, I'll put our allied troops in danger just because I don't like war.

Really now. Who's more concerned about the safety of the troops? The ones who want to send them to war, or the ones who want to end it?

Re:Yeah...I don't like this. (4, Insightful)

Zibodiz (2160038) | more than 2 years ago | (#39393839)

I think he's the real life version of Gaius Baltar. Do whatever will get you popular and get you women.

Re:Yeah...I don't like this. (4, Insightful)

Fluffeh (1273756) | more than 2 years ago | (#39394569)

I think he's the real life version of Gaius Baltar. Do whatever will get you popular and get you women.

That might be the case, but even though Baltar was a whore for popularity and generally spineless, he served humanity well when it was needed and although not all people liked him for the most part (in the show and in the audience) he played an important part in making things better.

I don't care if the guy sleeps with a newly imported Swedish prostitue (sorry, friend) each night. If he brings some accountability and causes the Australian government to go in a better direction, then I can't say that I am anything but delighted. I don't care what the hell politicians do once they are off the clock - I want my politicians to work and do their best for me as a faceless, anonymous member of the public.

Re:Yeah...I don't like this. (4, Insightful)

Max Littlemore (1001285) | more than 2 years ago | (#39394133)

Attention whore, maybe. Idealist, certainly.

Maybe he gets in the senate, get's on a committee (doubt that but anyway) and learns why secrets are kept.

I personally agree with everything he's done. If we were all completely open about everything we have done that directly effected at least one other human, I don't reckon there would be war. If there were, they would be very short. Courts can be great things when they're not bogged down in IP law and drugs.

spoken as someone with no direct interest in the money for killing tea towel heads consortium.....

Re:Yeah...I don't like this. (4, Insightful)

sjames (1099) | more than 2 years ago | (#39393805)

By definition, a whistleblower IS part of the organization he blows the whistle on. Sometimes the muck needs a close up raking.

That doesn't eliminate the need for outside muckrakers as well in case the insider goes over to the dark side.

Re:Yeah...I don't like this. (5, Insightful)

dbet (1607261) | more than 2 years ago | (#39393827)

Whistleblowers and muckrakers shouldn't be a part of the government.

Neither should liars and assholes. But guess what?

Re:Yeah...I don't like this. (4, Insightful)

niftydude (1745144) | more than 2 years ago | (#39394079)

Whistleblowers and muckrakers shouldn't be a part of the government.

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes and all that rot.

Dude - Maxine Mckew winning Bennelong off John Howard was one of the sweetest moments in Australian politics.

In case you've already forgotten - she also was a journalist, and has definitely been a muckracker and whistlebower in her time at the ABC.

Re:Yeah...I don't like this. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39394217)

Dude - Maxine Mckew winning Bennelong off John Howard was one of the sweetest moments in Australian politics.

The only thing that would have made that sweeter, would have been the Liberals winning the election anyway. I'm kind of hoping for something similar in Queensland next weekend, the Lib's taking the State but Campbell not winning his seat.

Re:Yeah...I don't like this. (2)

Confusedent (1913038) | more than 2 years ago | (#39394491)

Actually, they really should be, the same way they should be a part of big pharma and big tobacco and any other large, profitable organization that damages the lives of others through corrupt practices. Whistleblowers are the ones who expose corruption. Saying they shouldn't be a part of the government is basically saying you don't want any corruption that goes on exposed.

Re:Yeah...I don't like this. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39395145)

Yea.. wisdom...

But the desperation for good news is bigger than your worries.

Good luck with that. (-1, Flamebait)

RyuuzakiTetsuya (195424) | more than 2 years ago | (#39393779)

I hope he wins.

I don't personally think there's a giant paranoid conspiracy out to get him but I hope he wins so we can shut up the conspiracy minded.

Plus for the massive disagreement I have with his approach to politics at least he's on the right side of history. Even if he is a scumbag rapist.

Re:Good luck with that. (4, Informative)

dbIII (701233) | more than 2 years ago | (#39393877)

He has no chance of winning but the number of votes he gets will be noticed and may influence policy. Runing for the senate in Australia is not the Billionaire's game that it is in the USA. Last election I recall something like six canditates standing on shooting and fishing issues in my state, as well as a few other single issue canditates. You could just about use the senate ballot paper as a tablecloth.

Re:Good luck with that. (3, Funny)

GloomE (695185) | more than 2 years ago | (#39394113)

You could just about use the senate ballot paper as a tablecloth.

I somehow miss-read tablecloth as toilet paper.
We have to vote on this coming Saturday, I hope it's both soft and strong.

Re:Good luck with that. (2)

OeLeWaPpErKe (412765) | more than 2 years ago | (#39394123)

Isn't that pretty much the exact thing you'd want. At least you get to vote on actual issues, as compared to "liberal" versus "conservative" like most of us. Where the liberals are about as liberal as the conservatives are conservative.

Re:Good luck with that. (1)

LordLucless (582312) | more than 2 years ago | (#39394187)

I somehow miss-read tablecloth as toilet paper.

Unless you have severe bowel problems, using the senate ballot paper as TP is overkill.

Re:Good luck with that. (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39394419)

I somehow miss-read tablecloth as toilet paper.

Remind me to never invite you to dinner.

Re:Good luck with that. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39394353)

Guess again. Andrew Wilkie, the infamous Australian intelligence whistleblower who was hammered in the press by the government of the day, is now one of the power-broker independent members in the federal lower-house.

Re:Good luck with that. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39394011)

I hope he wins.

I don't personally think there's a giant paranoid conspiracy out to get him but I hope he wins so we can shut up the conspiracy minded.

Plus for the massive disagreement I have with his approach to politics at least he's on the right side of history. Even if he is a scumbag rapist.

( Even if he is a scumbag rapist )

common you cant really believe that crap do you . . . .

Re:Good luck with that. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39394081)

The phrase is, "Come on", sometimes written "C'mon" for slangy effect.

(E.g.:) C'mon, don't tell me you can completely fuck up a phrase as common as that one!

Re:Good luck with that. (4, Informative)

Confusedent (1913038) | more than 2 years ago | (#39394477)

I wasn't aware that anyone actually took those allegations seriously. They basically amount to a condom having broken and claiming that he intentionally broke the condom, or that he began having sex with them while they were asleep. IIRC, after originally issueing the warrants (or whatever) in Sweden, a higher up judge later dismissed it for lack of evidence, which was then later overturned by another higher up. These women were openly bragging about their relationship with him only days before filing charges, and only did so once they found out he was involved with both of them. They were both seen attending one of his speeches and comfortable watching (this is on video) a few days later. It's rather transparent that the US government (among others) are using BS sex-crime allegations to try and silence someone blowing the whistle on their corrupt practices. Try this [indiatimes.com] , if you'd actually like to hear the other side of the story (that doesn't involve the political motivation to shut down wikileaks and scare off other whistleblowers).

Re:Good luck with that. (3, Interesting)

peragrin (659227) | more than 2 years ago | (#39394493)

How do you go from two women scorned to US government involvement being transparent?

Read this carefully. The US government can not take him out of Sweden PERIOD. He is required by extradition to be return to the UK FIRST.

It also shows just how little slashdotters know about pissing off women. They will stab you in the back if you scorn them by sleeping with other women and lying to them about it.

Also Sweden's Laws on rape are very very much in favor of Women. She can change her mind after the fact lie about it and still have you found guilty.

Re:Good luck with that. (5, Informative)

Confusedent (1913038) | more than 2 years ago | (#39394567)

Oh trust me, I am aware. I've been arrested (case later dismissed) because of women lying about me, and even had to call the cops three months ago to explain how another girl I'd been involved with was trying to spoof emails to frame me for "harassment" in order to avoid paying me the money she owed me. But the US government has wanted to [wsj.com] get Assange [npr.org] extradited [washingtonpost.com] to the US so they could try him under the Espionage Act ever since the Collateral Murder video. I don't see how they'll be able to do that just from this, maybe they think they can put more pressure on the Swedish government than the UK, or maybe they think discrediting him as a rapist or putting him in Swedish jail is satisfactory. Sure, I admit I can't prove it's part of an ochestrated smear campaign or conspiracy, but given the fact that the accusations are based on an apparently obscure and rarely used "surprise sex" law, the timing of the incidents, the fact that at least some people in the Swedish legal system wanted to just throw the case out when it originally happened (this is from memory, sorry I couldn't find a link), I think I'd have to be gloriously naive to think the US didn't play a role in all this, even if they weren't directly involved with the two women making the accusations.

If this is unreasonable, call me out on it, but honestly how can anyone take these charges seriously?

Re:Good luck with that. (3, Informative)

Confusedent (1913038) | more than 2 years ago | (#39394621)

Correction, I was able to find the original news reports of the allegations against him being dropped [bbc.co.uk] and then [cnn.com] reinstated [tribune.com.pk] .

Re:Good luck with that. (1)

Lennie (16154) | more than 2 years ago | (#39394813)

Also if I'm not mistaken he is the only rapist on the Interpol list (or was it the European equivalant ?). Whatever.

It could indicate their might be an other reason he is on the list.

No way. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39393783)

Wait... what?
Did I miss something? I feel like I've missed something really big.

He should be Ron Paul's running mate (1)

Spiked_Three (626260) | more than 2 years ago | (#39393785)

I'd vote for the pair.

Re:He should be Ron Paul's running mate (1)

donscarletti (569232) | more than 2 years ago | (#39393843)

This isn't doubles tennis. Two people of different nationalities rarely make appropriate running mates as they are both only eligible for government in different countries. That said, American politician King O'Malley had a great career in Australian politics after pretending he was from Canada and thus a subject of the crown, so there may be hope for them yet.

Re:He should be Ron Paul's running mate (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39393857)

are you single ? can we go out ?

If that works... (1)

Dainsanefh (2009638) | more than 2 years ago | (#39393787)

we should draft CmdrTaco for PM!

News (1)

vencs (1937504) | more than 2 years ago | (#39393791)

Theres' gonna be an Oz Spring or a lot of harassment cases followed by mass deportation post voting..

Sentate? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39393819)

I'll vote for him.

Re:Sentate? (2)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 2 years ago | (#39394067)

For the lulz if nothing else.

Fair enough. (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39393845)

Fair enough. If they're going to accuse the man of having the lowest character, they might as well give him the office that goes with it.

Clever (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39393863)

If elected he'll have immunity (or so I think, I don't know Australian law) and can be rid of the false charges against him (for a few years, anyway). Knowing Australia, though, I'd be surprised if they don't vote for Cthulhu instead.
Australia, don't fuck this up.

Re:Clever (2)

deniable (76198) | more than 2 years ago | (#39393945)

No immunity, just ask Mary Jo Fisher. [wikipedia.org]

It'll make a stir once the news breaks here (4, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39393871)

I live in the next electorate across from Ms Gillard's electorate, so I won't get the privilege of helping stir the pot... but if I could I'd definitely vote for anyone promising the level of transparency Wikileaks represents.

The other important point here is that Julia has done a shameful job of supporting a high profile Australian in trouble, pretty much towing the pro USA line (Australia traditionally lives in the US of A's pocket) which means she hasn't acknowledged the important community service roll that whistle blower organisations such as Wikileaks fill in a open and honest democracy. Good luck to Julian, he's a national hero!

Re:It'll make a stir once the news breaks here (2)

Antarius (542615) | more than 2 years ago | (#39393937)

I'd move to fucking Werribee for a few months, just for the chance to vote her out of office and the Wikileaks candidate in!

Re:It'll make a stir once the news breaks here (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39394135)

I'd move to either Bennelong or Werribee because, dude, "Bennelong". "Werribee". How can anyone in Australia be anything other than free and easy when you have names like that? It's like the polar opposite to German - how can anyone speak such a harsh language and /not/ be a Nazi?

Re:It'll make a stir once the news breaks here (1)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | more than 2 years ago | (#39395039)

Those names actually mean "the dying fields" and "place of war" in the Aborigine language.

Nah I just made that up. But I made you think, right? ;-)

Re:It'll make a stir once the news breaks here (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39395285)

you mean the kind of transparency where his organization turned into an opaque mudslinging contest with him abusing leaked material for his personal gain and won't release them?

Senate (4, Informative)

deimtee (762122) | more than 2 years ago | (#39393885)

I hope he runs in Vic. I'd vote for him.
The senate has proportional voting.
Everyone ranks all the candidates, then they start counting. As soon as a candidate has enough to get elected, any further votes move to the second preference. You can end up with some funny results if everyone puts the major party they don't like last.

Re:Senate (1)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 2 years ago | (#39394075)

OTH he would make a great celebrity candidate for the greens and with their organisation behind him, Assange might have a good chance of getting in.

Re:Senate (2)

benjamindees (441808) | more than 2 years ago | (#39394451)

Wait, so you're saying that who gets elected depends on the order in which the votes are tallied?

Re:Senate (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39395271)

Wait, so you're saying that who gets elected depends on the order in which the votes are tallied?

No.

It's not the order that they're counted in - it's that votes are redistributed when it becomes clear that no single candidate has enough to be elected. It's turn-based, not real-time.

- an Australian who is too lazy to log in.

boring (1, Flamebait)

pbjones (315127) | more than 2 years ago | (#39393889)

most people in Oz see him either as a criminal, or some nutter. A senate seat requires a large number of votes across a single state, it just isn't going to happen, it's just hot air and crap.

Re:boring (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39393899)

Where do you get your statistics from?

Re:boring (0)

pbjones (315127) | more than 2 years ago | (#39393925)

talking to people, reading the press, seeing how little real interest there is in him. He isn't a 'hero' in Australia. I'm pretty neutral on him and his actions, and I can't see him offering any thing of value. I am also under the impression that he had a criminal conviction for 'hacking' which, IIRC, rules him out of holding a seat in parliament.

Re:boring (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39393981)

I see him offering a lot more value than the fucktards we have at the moment. Some one to stand up for our internet rights (some one that understands tech at all), offer more transparency in politics, defiantly wont be as inclined to bend over and take it from america. I'm Australian and in my eyes he is a hero, any one that stands up to some of the most terrible acts in history against the most powerful players and goes through hell for it deserves my respect.

Re:boring (1)

deniable (76198) | more than 2 years ago | (#39393927)

So someone like Steve Fielding could never get elected. I'm so relieved.

Re:boring (1)

bug1 (96678) | more than 2 years ago | (#39394335)

After confusing fical policy with physical policy Steve Fielding calmly explained he had an good excuse, that he has a learning disability.

To think he was one of a few that held the balance of power for the whole country, disturbing.

Re:boring (1)

Antarius (542615) | more than 2 years ago | (#39393951)

Actually, the Senate is a great springboard for small parties.

It gives us (the people) a safety net by allowing a diverse amount of views to vote on a Bill. Well, that's the theory.

But take a look at the different parties that run for the Senate, such as Xenophon, the old Democrats and even the Greens. Many of these groups end up holding the Balance of Power in the Senate, so it's not to be thought little of.

And if Xenophon can get in on the "No Pokies" ticket, then surely Assange can get in on the "Open Government" ticket?

Re:boring (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39394399)

If he can convincingly pull it off, yes. But the comments on talk-back radio (ABC Jon Faine show) and The Age Newspaper seems ~50% anti wikileaks. Personally, I doubt that he'll be able to convince the average voter who probably doesn't care. (Some people were under the impression that Cablegate was a result of wikileaks/Julian doing the hacking).

Re:boring (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39394557)

Xenophon got in for his first term in SA on the back of getting rid of poker machines. Since then we keep voting for him because he keeps asking the government "Why?" and seems to actually be an honest man.

Re:boring (1)

Antarius (542615) | more than 2 years ago | (#39394975)

You're right, it was a bad example in the fact that he actually had more than one policy...

I had been trying to use the old grey-matter to find an example of a loonie party getting in, but couldn't think of one at that moment. Now a better example would be the "Family First Party," who gave us the wonderful Steven Fielding.

The ability for them to get into the Senate was a springboard to being seen as a "legitimate" party, instead of the bunch of ultra-conservative homophobes.

Re:boring (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39394997)

Evening Ladies and Bruces,

I just want to remind the faculty of the rules. Rule number 1: NO POOFTAS!

Re:boring (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39394031)

a criminal, or some nutter

Then he'll be in great company as a politician..

Re:boring (1)

Dodgy G33za (1669772) | more than 2 years ago | (#39394037)

Most people I know think he is a force for good. Maybe you should stop hanging out with rednecks.

A couple of percent will get you a senator. Hell, I would put Julian first because if he got in, it might shake things up a bit, and if he didn't my vote goes to my second preference anyway.

Dontcha just love preferential voting?

Re:boring (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39394879)

yeah damn bastard, how come he is trying to stop us killing all the A-Rabs?

Not bad compared too others running... (2)

Kplx138 (2523712) | more than 2 years ago | (#39393929)

Remember pauline hanson?
Yeah he's not that bad really, just a massive ego like most hackers. Compare to others running in politics
  he's not that bad, look at bob katter and his wing nut party. Remember Sir Jo from QLD back in the day? I do
and so does julian. Remember the publicity stunt of Peter Garret joining the labor party, where is he now?
More power to him, I'd certainly vote for him

He may have a while to wait ... (3, Informative)

baileydau (1037622) | more than 2 years ago | (#39393987)

He may have to wait a bit to try for the Senate.

According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Next_Australian_federal_election [wikipedia.org] it must by held by 30 November 2013. Whilst there is *some* possibility of it being called early, I wouldn't be holding my breath.

Despite being under house arrest (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39394005)

Being a British criminal has never kept anyone out of Australia, quite the contrary. ;)

And what better place than with all the other criminals that run the country?

Re:Despite being under house arrest (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39394047)

I think you might be confusing Australia with the US

Re:Despite being under house arrest (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39394065)

Interesting that the UK seems to lie at the root of both problems :)

Re:Despite being under house arrest (1)

Hyperhaplo (575219) | more than 2 years ago | (#39394521)

No, he's not. Just a bit over 200 years ago England exported a lot of criminals to Australia. [wikipedia.org]

It's a real I don't live in that electorate .. voting for Assange would be a double whammy - get rid of Gillard and introduce new blood into what is now essentially two party system (liberal and labour are about the same, only the greens offer anything much different excepting minor parties and independents).

If he sides with Liberal he'd be in good standing to cash in on the liberal landslide vote expected next elections (to get rid of the useless labour government we have right now)

Last, but not least, I wouldn't put it past Assange to require Gillard to put be through the new full body scanners being installed in Australian airports and post the pics of her online as an example of why the scanners are a bad idea.

Go Assange! I'd vote for you

Re:Despite being under house arrest (1)

bug1 (96678) | more than 2 years ago | (#39394655)

to get rid of the useless labour government we have right now

Useless is a relative term, Labour are doing quit well compared to the liberal (blueblood) governments we have had recently, they done an increadible amount of work undering the damage that had been done to this country and its reputation in the previous decade.

Do you seriously want Abbott in charge instead, or maybe bring Howard back ?

Re:Despite being under house arrest (0)

Hyperhaplo (575219) | more than 2 years ago | (#39394751)

I would go Howard over Gillard.

Actually, for as much as I disliked Rudd, I'd definitely prefer Rudd. I am willing to support someone I personally dislike if they can do the job.

Abbott is a waste of space and oxygen. Liberals are going to cause serious strife at the next election if he is still the leader. Lots of people want Labour out, lots of people hate Abbott. The vote could easily spread out to Greens and Independent just to avoid both of them. Most of the people I know won't vote for either now.

If Assange steps up to lead the liberals.. who knows.. he could take the election.

Even better: If he is elected then his current problems will be much easier to solve. Screw over a random Australian citizen? Sure. Screw over an elected official for whom every single activity is likely to make the daily newspaper's front page across the county? No.

As for the 'incredible amount' it depends what you mean.
  - Integration of major government agencies - Medicare, Centrelink, DHS, CRS is a huge waste of money
  - Can't stop the boats - millions wasted, still being wasted. Stupid amounts of money blown on 'solving the boats' problem, and yet people are still dying trying to get to Christmas Island. Nearly a whole boatload of illegal immigrants died and.. nothing is done.
  - School 'building' scheme was a real waste of money in many places. Heart is in the right place, governance and oversight isn't
  - Batts - Wonderful idea, very bad execution. A real rort in many areas. Bad governance.
  - Carbon Tax??? Seriously? After making an election promise that there would never be a carbon tax in Gillard's Government?
  - RTD tax - No seriously, this is just stupid. The RTD market has hit rock bottom, and now all the kids buy top shelf instead. Great result. Proven that this tax doesn't work, and still it is not rescinded
  - Labour signed ACTA - How is this even legal?

Yes, some good things have been achieved.. but they don't outweigh the bad.
  - Plain package cigarettes

Yes, at this point Howard would be good to have back.

On the other hand, Assange looks like a promising choice.

Re:Despite being under house arrest (1)

Dr Max (1696200) | more than 2 years ago | (#39395029)

I don't like Abbott one bit probably less than Gillard (wait i don't think that's possible) but don't belittle liberals work we wouldn't of had a snowballs chance in hell of dealing with the gfc if the liberal party didn't get rid of our debt. What has the labour party actually done apart from give us a one time tax break and take rights away from the people left right and centre? Personally i think we were much better off 10 years ago, although I'm not a big fan of Howard either because of his bitchy exit of the party and driving away our chance at a kick ass PM Peter Costello (he would of mopped the floor with gillard, rud, or abbot).

Not that any of this really matters, your going to vote for whoever your parents voted for because it's far to complicated to sift through all the crap each party says (not that what they say has much relevance to what they will do) to make an informed decision. It's easier to go with what you know, gather only the positive things said about your party and only the negative about the opposition (referred to as group polarization).

When justice is for the popular (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39394045)

it makes sense to be famous.

From the Department of Redundancy Department... (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39394069)

The Upper House of the Australian parliament is the Senate, "Upper House of the Australian Senate" doesn't make any sense.

The dark side of democracy (1)

Maimun (631984) | more than 2 years ago | (#39394085)

The populists can get considrable support. Only for a short while, of course -- a society of Assanges, or at least run by Assanges, cannot last very long time. There are certain objective laws of nature (that includes human nature as well) and the utopists that ignore them are doomed to extinction.

Re:The dark side of democracy (1)

MRe_nl (306212) | more than 2 years ago | (#39394185)

Always good to see a Dystopian "explain" how the Utopists are doomed, doomed I tell you ; ).

Re:The dark side of democracy (1)

Xtifr (1323) | more than 2 years ago | (#39394257)

Heh, reminds me of the TVTropes Renamed Tropes entry for The Sliding Scale of Idealism Versus Cynicism [tvtropes.org] : "used to be '...Versus Realism'. It was changed by idealists. To be fair, it was probably named by the cynics."

mod +down (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39394203)

Stunt (1)

Arancaytar (966377) | more than 2 years ago | (#39394225)

Controversial candidates, even popular controversial ones, don't win. So this isn't really anything to consider seriously.

But if it were, I would be against Assange being a member of any government - or any group that might be subject to whistleblowers, at that. Not because of any suitability, but because it would compromise his position as an independent helper of whistleblowers, and that position is far more necessary than any political office.

If Assange joins a government, a corporate board, or hell, even the board of a non-profit organization, and a whistleblower then wishes to disseminate inside information from this group, how could he trust Assange? As it is, if someone has to blow the whistle on Wikileaks itself, she'd have to find another organization to send information to. That's inevitable, but every additional organization Assange is involved in is an additional conflict of interest.

Easy target for opponents (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39394227)

All his opponents have to do is run a campaign saying he;

was accused of rape in Sweden and has been under house arrest, (make him look like a criminal)
has not lived in Australia for 6 years (wiki says he hasn't lived in australia since starting with wikileaks [founded in 2006]), (make him look unaustralian)
released private diplomatic cables relating to Australia, (make him look like he doesn't care about australian national security)

and they'd get pretty easy boost.

No one has been paying any attention to Julian... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39394255)

He's not been getting any headlines recently.

He's IMPORTANT!

We MUST listen!

The whiney little bugger craves attention of any sort, this is just another publicity stunt for a third-rate creep.

Actually its quite funny. Given the amount of angst in the UK at the moment over perceived imbalances between US and UK extradition practices, I'd have thought he would prefer to get over to Sweden before he UK gets a scrap of paper off the US saying "Assange is a lying traitorous creep. Hand him over!". And we would. Unless of course, he actually IS guilty as hell of sex crime and knows it.

Otherwise, the worst he could expect from Sweden is a brisk birching and an instruction to go and roll in the snow for a while. And he may enjoy that....

A little help here? (1)

PopeRatzo (965947) | more than 2 years ago | (#39394645)

Excuse me. It's still pretty early here and I'm still a bit sleepy and I can't find my reading glasses, but does that headline say, "Australian"?

What a weird wonderful world we live in.

If he opens his tax records, ok (1)

retroworks (652802) | more than 2 years ago | (#39394831)

The irony is that I know virtually nothing about him.

Haters, (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39394959)

gonna hate.

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