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All Video Games Cause Aggressive Behavior, Say Two US Congressmen

Soulskill posted about 2 years ago | from the not-intended-as-a-factual-statement dept.

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Fluffeh writes with news that U.S. Congressmen Baca (D-CA) and Wolf (R-VA) have proposed a bill that would require most video games to have a warning label decrying their "potential damaging" long-term effects on children. "Under the one-page Violence in Video Games Labeling Act (PDF), packaging for all video games except those rated 'EC' for Early Childhood would be required to prominently display a message reading: 'WARNING: Exposure to violent video games has been linked to aggressive behavior.' The proposed label would be required even if the video game in question is not violent."

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Like War (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39420353)

War causes violent behaviour too, but no congressman as ever putting a bill against, have they?

Re:Like War (5, Interesting)

Samalie (1016193) | about 2 years ago | (#39420411)

I was thinking something close to this at least...more along the lines of "morons that hold public office has been linked to aggressive behavior"

Seriously, when you consider just how outrageously fucked up the USA & world are right now...this is the dumbest shit to be wasting time on I can almost think of. Hopefully the voters in their districts see it the same way. Not fucking likely, but I could hope.

Of course this is bipartisan douchebaggery too. Morons.

Re:Like War (2, Informative)

syrinx (106469) | about 2 years ago | (#39420475)

More time spent on this pointlessness means less time available for their normal job of ruining things. Yeah the USA is "outrageously fucked up", but Congress can pretty much only make it worse, so the more they get out of the way, the better.

Wolf's my congressman btw. If someone better wants to run I'd be all for it, but the ones who actually run against him are much worse.

Re:Like War (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39420561)

Ah more nanny-state bullshit from the Baby Boomers. Before they die, they are fucking determiend to make sure the younger generations have no wealth, resources, or freedoms to inherit. It is their personal obsession. Baby Boomers if they was honest would say "I have not died yet so the whole world owes me something. Lots of something."

What's the difference between a two-year-old and a Baby Boomer? The two-year-old might outgrow his sense of entitlement.

Re:Like War (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39420785)

"Holding public office have been linked to irresponsible behavior, bad judgement, and wasteful expenditures"

Re:Like War (4, Insightful)

similar_name (1164087) | about 2 years ago | (#39420633)

I think they are conflating aggression with competition. Competition makes kids more aggressive. Let kids play any game where they are competing against each other and they will become more aggressive regardless of the violence content (I've seen kids fight over Go-Fish). EC games probably don't show 'aggression' because they generally aren't that competitive.

Re:Like War (4, Insightful)

TheCarp (96830) | about 2 years ago | (#39420675)

I play plenty of violent video games but you know....

NOTHING makes me so violently angry as listening to politicians and their machinations. Can't we outlaw them?

Doesn't matter which ones it is.... Democrats, Republicans.... they all piss me off to no end...pretty much anytime they open their mouths.

Re:Like War (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39420803)

I see... I have been playing video games too, and it seems like they actually cause violence, because I DO want to kill all the politicians when I hear them talking stupidities.

Huhmm... I guess they have a point

Re:Like War (2)

neonv (803374) | about 2 years ago | (#39420835)

That's like making a law warning against bullying. Make all the warnings you want, it won't change anything.

Re:Like War (4, Interesting)

UnknownSoldier (67820) | about 2 years ago | (#39420869)

No kidding! Cause we ALL know that video games caused all the atrocities of World War I and World War II, right? ... OH WAIT. SOME people are inherently violent -- the "medium" they use to express that is irrelevant !

Don't you love how every generation just has to blame X for what it doesn't understand?
e.g.
'40 Dancing
'50 Soul Music
'60 Rock N Roll
'70 Drugs
'80 DnD
'90 Video Games
'00 Guns / Homosexuality
Obviously the list isn't 100 accurate, but you get the point.

What a bunch of fuck tards.

Re:Like War (4, Interesting)

jamstar7 (694492) | about 2 years ago | (#39420899)

These two bozos are Congressmen, which means they stand for election this year just like every other Congressman. But instead of standing up for a real issue, they're playing it safe and grandstanding for the voters. Do they really believe this bullshit? Probably not. Do they really care? Not about this, they don't. If it goes through, they get to stand up and say 'Hey, I DID something on The Hill besides taking campaign contributions from *AA! I made a DIFFERENCE!' If this bill tanks, they get to stand up and say 'Hey, I TRIED, but those damned politicians voted me down. Vote for me again this year so I can go back to The Hill and try again. Think of the children! Think of my paycheck!! I don't wanna get a real job!!'

Re:Like War (1)

blahplusplus (757119) | about 2 years ago | (#39420905)

"War causes violent behaviour too, but no congressman as ever putting a bill against, have they?"

I can't wait until I hear that Videogames are a part of that 'axis of evil'.

All congressmen cause violent behavior, (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39420913)

All Congressman cause violent behavior, says 2 video game players.

---Fixed it

It warms the heart. (4, Funny)

mmcxii (1707574) | about 2 years ago | (#39420359)

I'm glad to see the parties finally getting together on a public ground in the best interests of the public. This is just the kind of cooperation that we need to see so people can move on from partisan bickering. Very progressive.

Oh, wait...

Re:It warms the heart. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39420617)

Congressmen Baca is playing with fire.
He's living up to his name (in Japanese [urbandictionary.com]).

Which states produce the most games?
Here's a map [gamedevmap.com] to figure it out.

WARNING (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39420373)

Exposure to politicians has been linked to aggressive behaviour.

Re:WARNING (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39420567)

Certainly works on me...

Re:WARNING (2)

DigiShaman (671371) | about 2 years ago | (#39420721)

Exposure to political decisions have been linked to aggressive behaviour.

Being exposed to politicians makes my mind numb. Their stupid rubs off on me like some form of infection.

Re:WARNING (1)

Black Parrot (19622) | about 2 years ago | (#39420733)

Exposure to politicians has been linked to aggressive behaviour.

I thought it made adults curl up and suck their thumbs.

Re:WARNING (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39420917)

Actually, you have a great point. Where does all the "well known" violence in the world come from?

Politics (mainly politicians, but conversations about politics end up in heated discussions generally)
Religious wars (I'm religious myself, but seems like there's many intolerance around the topic)
Last but not least... sports. Discussions about sports, sometimes mixed with alcohol result in fights.


I wonder if we can ban all of them.

TV? (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39420381)

Shouldn't TV come with the same warning then?

Re:TV? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39420805)

and books, film, cartoons, the color red, bad days, and of course, rapscallions.

Re:TV? (1)

Anonymous Brave Guy (457657) | about 2 years ago | (#39420825)

Would it be too obvious to point out that in many places there is a watershed time in the evening, and anything shown on TV before that time is typically not allowed to include "grown up" content at all?

It's fascinating that in the first dozen or so posts I've read here, I see plenty of mockery and obvious jokes, but not a single person who has allowed that there may be even an element of truth to be found here.

Re:TV? (1)

LiroXIV (2362610) | about 2 years ago | (#39420849)

They do ... in Canada. i.e. Most broadcasters require viewer discretion warnings in order to warn viewers that the show they're watching is of American origin and is very good.

Re:TV? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39420903)

They do in most places of the world.

ooh it's bipartisan!! (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39420391)

That means they can't possibly be wrong, right?? Are they still worried about the effects of Doom on the kids of today? I hear Bart Simpson is a really bad influence as well, and those Teletubbies...straight from Satan himself, there to make your toddler catch Gay.

Re:ooh it's bipartisan!! (3, Insightful)

gman003 (1693318) | about 2 years ago | (#39420795)

Doom? Try Mario. Yes, under this bill, every Mario game would get a big scary "CAUSES VIOLENCE" sticker on it. Same for Sonic, or Tetris, or Oregon Trail, or Pong. Same for such nightmarish gore-fests as "Junior Classic Games" (a compilation of checkers, backgammon, etc.), "Nicktoons MLB 3D" (a Nickelodeon-themed basketball game), "Imagine Babyz" (a child-care simulator), "Microsoft Flight" (a flight sim), and "Sesame Street: Once Upon a Monster " (a Sesame Street game - need I say more?).

The "E" rating means "Everyone". To quote the ESRB, "Titles rated E (Everyone) have content that may be suitable for ages 6 and older. Titles in this category may contain minimal cartoon, fantasy or mild violence and/or infrequent use of mild language."

Apparently they need to amend that to "suitable for ages 6 and older who are not elected officials or otherwise mentally handicapped".

Speaking of Labels (5, Informative)

microbee (682094) | about 2 years ago | (#39420399)

How about "Congress has been linked with corruption and abuse of power" for any campaign Ads?

Politians can cause aggressive behavior (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39420415)

They should have to provide a warning message before they speak.

Nice to see (1)

Capt.DrumkenBum (1173011) | about 2 years ago | (#39420429)

For this to be important all other problems must have been fixed. So I am happy to know that there is no more pollution, the economy is fixed, everyone has a job and health care. I bet they even fixed the education system, before coming up with this little gem.

An important caveat is missing (5, Insightful)

baudilus (665036) | about 2 years ago | (#39420431)

Violent video games may cause aggressive behavior in a subset of individuals, likely already predisposed to said aggressive behavior.

The same argument was made about violent movies and the now more prevalent incidences of school shootings. I content that the movies didn't make the kids violent; they were already that way and probably should have had help beforehand.

Re:An important caveat is missing (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39420477)

I don't think school shootings are really any more prevalent now than they used to be, they just tend to get more attention.

Re:An important caveat is missing (3, Informative)

PeanutButterBreath (1224570) | about 2 years ago | (#39420765)

I don't think school shootings are really any more prevalent now than they used to be, they just tend to get more attention.

"Between 1979 and 1988 there were 27 school shootings. From 1989 to 1998 there were 55 and then they continued to increase from 1999 to 2008 to 66, so there were 148 shootings in the three decades from 1979 to 2008. What’s most disturbing is that in the three years since 2008 there have been 43 shootings, and that’s almost two-thirds of the number of shootings that occurred in the preceding decade." - http://www.salon.com/2012/03/04/inside_the_bully_economy [salon.com]

Re:An important caveat is missing (1)

causality (777677) | about 2 years ago | (#39420603)

Violent video games may cause aggressive behavior in a subset of individuals, likely already predisposed to said aggressive behavior.

As another poster pointed out, the APA statement about this was retracted. This bill is completely unsubstantiated.

There needs to be an easy way to strike down laws that are contradicted by facts. For example, both marijuana and LSD have medical uses, yet both are Schedule 1 (no medical use) drugs. The facts here are not in dispute. Don't we want laws to match reality?

Re:An important caveat is missing (2)

Black Parrot (19622) | about 2 years ago | (#39420755)

The facts here are not in dispute. Don't we want laws to match reality?

*We* might, but unfortunately a lot of people simply don't.

And a lot of politicians have figured out that it's a winning strategy to cater to voters who want to use law (and consequently, men with guns) to forbid any behavior that they don't approve.

Re:An important caveat is missing (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39420895)

Speaking as a gamer this makes me angry!

If that's the case . . . . . (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39420433)

Then our elected officials should cease playing video games. We might actually stop bombing half the planet when we don't get our way :|

There should be a warning on the bill. (5, Insightful)

Hentes (2461350) | about 2 years ago | (#39420437)

[citation needed]

Tetris Rampage (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39420607)

[citation needed]

It's true though! Two of the largest murdering rampages in history (in Russia) were caused by the killer playing Tetris!

The Russian government tried to cover it up though. You can use me as a citation for this. The World needs to know the truth!!!

Signs don't matter... (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39420439)

No matter how many sings you put up, the general public WILL NOT READ THEM. You have "No Solicitor" signs, yet you still get people trying to sell you stuff. You put up "No Outside Food Or Drink", yet you still get people bringing it in. You put health warnings on Cigarettes yet people still buy them (because they don't care). These signs won't do anything that the ESRB labeling system hasn't done already. These Congressmen are trying to score political points by doing nothing.

Do theaters sell diabetic candy? (1)

tepples (727027) | about 2 years ago | (#39420645)

You put up "No Outside Food Or Drink", yet you still get people bringing it in.

From what I've seen, these notices on the door of a movie theater is there to make it easier to enforce alcohol bans. If movie theaters enforced such notices strictly, they'd get lawsuits from some diabetes advocacy group.

Re:Do theaters sell diabetic candy? (1)

reub2000 (705806) | about 2 years ago | (#39420753)

If movie theaters enforced such notices strictly, they'd get lawsuits from some diabetes advocacy group.

I'm quite sure that the theaters sell plenty of things that can treat hypoglycemia.

Re:Do theaters sell diabetic candy? (2)

Obfuscant (592200) | about 2 years ago | (#39420819)

If movie theaters enforced such notices strictly, they'd get lawsuits from some diabetes advocacy group.

Neither insulin nor the sugar candies some diabetics carry to counter hypoglycemia would count as "outside food or drink".

If a theater is worried that a diabetic would have to bring in a sugar-free drink to stay hydrated during the marathon exhibition of some blockbuster trilogy, then they ought to be selling diet and sugar free drinks to start with. Might I suggest, water? That's even free from the fountain.

But yes, in the modern "everyone is a victim of something" world, it is likely that some diabetic would sue under the ADA.

On the other hand, if the Myesthenia Gravis Foundation hasn't sued already, the theaters are probably safe. After all, having to lift your feet from the sticky floor to walk in and out is hard when you are that weak. And Narcoleptics Anonymous would have sued a long time ago for their members who have been convinced they were having a relapse when they fell asleep during the mind-numbing productions common on theaters today.

Re:Signs don't matter... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39420859)

I never knew being solicited door-to-door by solicitors was a problem in the US. That's unreal!

Now I understand Lee Tamahori's fall from grace.

I'm fine with this, (2, Informative)

wild_quinine (998562) | about 2 years ago | (#39420441)

They can have their unsubstantiated warning sticker when all politicians are forced to wear a tiepin that says 'Power Corrupts'.

Re:I'm fine with this, (1)

Moridin42 (219670) | about 2 years ago | (#39420483)

You, sir, are a rather nice guy. Me? I'd make 'em get a tattoo on their big lying faces that reads:
WARNING: Politics as a profession has been linked to ignorance, corruption, and sociopathy

So that every time they speak into a camera, we will all be reminded that nothing they say is to be trusted.

are they planning to do it with films as well? (2)

Trepidity (597) | about 2 years ago | (#39420449)

Or do these Congressmen support Big Hollywood peddling their ultra-violence directly into our CHILDREN's homes????

How about books? (0)

Kazymyr (190114) | about 2 years ago | (#39420451)

I propose a law that requires all books, even those not having any sexual content, to carry a big label "WARNING: books with erotic content have been linked to sexual excitation"

Violent Pong (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39420457)

Make sure if you go after the Pong recreation competition to get your warning!

Video games don't cause violence. (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39420463)

The violent nature of humans causes violence.

Games - Pong - Tennis - Violent (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39420471)

If you take this logically through:
All video games promote violence.
Therefore Games -> Pong -> Wii Sports -> Table Tennis -> Real Tennis -> Violent person.

For the EC argument -> Let's go with Track and Field to start... that has 'spears'.

We should start the bill to outlaw Sports in general because only sedentary people can be peaceful.

Old Information (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39420473)

The article goes on to point out that "link" between video games and violent behavior was established by a now retracted statement by the APA, and it has since been shown that a link only exists when previous mental health problems exist...It's nice to see Congressmen stay up-to-date on recent advances in medical knowledge when they propose bills!

Re:Old Information (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39420569)

Also, the 70's had many more violent crimes than any other decade since (Google can help you with the citation if you care). FUCK'N PONG SHOULD BE BANNED!!!!

And All Political Office Causes Dishonesty. (2)

edibobb (113989) | about 2 years ago | (#39420509)

And there is at least as much evidence that all political office causes dishonesty.

That warning applies to a lot more.. (4, Interesting)

yakumo.unr (833476) | about 2 years ago | (#39420521)

WARNING: Exposure to X has been linked to aggressive behavior.'

x ==

movies
TV
playgrounds
school
religious texts
alcohol
relationships
capitalism
life

Re:That warning applies to a lot more.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39420671)

You forgot comic books and rock & roll.

They are wrong! (4, Funny)

Nidi62 (1525137) | about 2 years ago | (#39420523)

I played violent video games throughout my childhood, and I turned out fine! And anyone who says any different is asking for a beat down!

Re:They are wrong! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39420739)

I played violent video games throughout my childhood, and I turned out fine! And anyone who says any different is asking for a beat down!

Fuck yeah! wanna beat up some hookers and kill some cops?!?

I'm with ya man! Fuck'em! Based upon my experience with video games, I can take on the entire secret service and beat their fucking asses at baseball. That's right! The softball game between Jimmy Carter's SS team. We can kick THEIR ASSES!!!

Who'd with me??!?!

Kick Jimmy Carter and his SS softball team? We can do it! We'll call ourselves "All Kind Of". - that'll freak the shit out of the secret service, wouldn't it! And while they're freak'in out, we'll hammer the most under rated President and his SS team into the dust!

Alls fair in love, war and softball!

They are so right!!! (1)

neonv (803374) | about 2 years ago | (#39420535)

The last time I played pong, I had a nasty violent outburst and beat my girlfriend senseless. I'd like to thank politicians for controlling my life and preventing me from enjoying any future video games.

Is 33 on a 2d screen a good thing in general? (1)

YurB (2583187) | about 2 years ago | (#39420537)

When we look at two objects, one close to us and one distant, say, 100 feet, our eyes reconfigure to see the distant object as clearly as possible. But when one looks at such two objects presented on a screen, eyes don't need to tune to the (virtual in this case) distant object anymore. While movies have the same problem, they aren't interactive, and aren't so much demanding for our eyes as, say, a racing game would be (where one needs to contantly look "far forward".) This is why I would offer 2d (or at least flat 3d) human-computer interaction to children.

Warning: May throw controller (1)

dittbub (2425592) | about 2 years ago | (#39420555)

Exposure to video games leads to aggressive behavior. Its true. No matter what the game, if its frustrating, you might throw the controller up against the wall.

Warning: Video Games are Known to Cause... (1)

QuasiSteve (2042606) | about 2 years ago | (#39420563)

Warning: Video Games are Known to Cause...

  • aggression
  • homicidal tendencies
  • infanticide
  • necrophilia
  • pedophilia
  • cancer

Go ahead, put it on the boxes. You know that kids will still be buying them anyway (same way that 9-year-olds are buying games rated for 13+ right now), and that mommy and daddy will buy them for their kids for Christmas just as well.
The impact from the warning on those boxes (that you keep at home and rarely see - and doesn't even apply to e.g. Steam downloads) is even less than the warnings on cigarette boxes (comparison suggested in article) which are visible any time one grabs one of the ~20 in the pack, which is often around others.
( Of course there's companies that sell sleeves that block off the warning. )

So clearly keeping people from buying them can't be the goal. So what is? Financial ruin by trying to get Walmart not to sell them? Hardly an issue to begin with (not the only games sellers) and Walmart wouldn't shoot themselves in the foot that much. Some manner of legal liability? But having the warnings on there should mean people can no longer blame the game devs/publishers, no? They could just point to the government-mandated warning that little Johnny could go to school and mow down his classmates after playing that game, not their fault they bought it for him anyway.

Baca and Wolf just wanted their names out there for political reasons, is my best guess so far.

Maybe there's a nuance in liability that I missed - that would still be the most likely ulterior motive.

Violence is beneficial (2)

multiben (1916126) | about 2 years ago | (#39420575)

The other day I was driving to return a DVD and I crashed my car into a lamp post because the cops were chasing me. I quickly jumped out and ran to the nearest car and pulled the guy out of it. After beating him to death with a club and stealing his money I returned my DVD to the store. Without video games I may have never had the inspiration I needed in order to avoid a costly late fee on my DVD.

ESRB v.2.0 (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39420609)

Joy. it's Tipper Gore and Joe Lieberman all over again.

Nintendo Brain Age makes me kill! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39420619)

After a session of Brain Age, I blacked out. When I came through, I was in an alley, my skin has a green tint to it and there was blood on my shirt. Someone later told me I killed three people! I don't remember any of this. I just remember the frustration I felt when I was using Brain Age and... wait. Think happy thoughts! Think happy thoughts!

Ok. I am alright again.

Just don't get me started on Wii Fit! Oh gosh, it is starting again... $#*@%!

who cares? (1)

netsavior (627338) | about 2 years ago | (#39420635)

It's false, but it obviously will not change consumer behavior. Hell it might even help shield the games industry from litigation from Jack Thompson 2.0 or the like.

Cigarette warning labels (displayed on an actually harmful product) are not effective. Experts think it is because they make cognative statements, rather than emotional ones... Personally I think you could require cigarette to be packaged directly in cancerous lungs, and require smokers to recite a complicated emotional sonnet declaring that they are thowing their lives away in; and you might impact the market by 1%.

Really? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39420647)

Isn't this contrary to what most actual studies have shown? Besides this is just a colossal waste of time, every single "violence in video game" labeling laws that have been passed in California and several other states have *ALL* been thrown out at the state supreme court level.

Conclusive proof (1)

argStyopa (232550) | about 2 years ago | (#39420649)

I think it's been conclusively proven since the congressman questioned the Secretary of the Navy about the danger of capsizing Guam that US Congressmen are really the stupidest creatures on the planet.

And, as Senator Dodd pointed out, they don't even have the sense of a reliable whore to stay bought when they've been purchased.

Seriously, they bring each other up on ethics charges, as if our opinion of them could get any lower?

BAN HKO (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39420653)

HKO, otherwise known as Hello Kitty Online, caused my 10 year old daughter to piss in a sandbox.

Please, WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN?

This is actually pretty brilliant... (1)

FSWKU (551325) | about 2 years ago | (#39420663)

With the way they're going about this, it looks like they're trying to create their own self-fulfilling issue. Make a bill so pants-on-head retarded that it's going to cause justifiable outrage among the people who enjoy video games. Then they can point to said outrage, claim it's aggressive behavior, and say, "See!!! We told you so! Games make people violent!!!! Won't you think of the children????????"

My guess is that it's a fluff measure. When it comes up for a vote, they'll try to attach some truly heinous garbage (cavity searches at security checkpoints, anyone?) so they can make sure it goes through with a minimum of fuss. Although I hope what really happens is the whole thing gets laughed at before being chucked in the trash, and the two clowns who wrote/sponsored it get censured and voted out of office.

Re:This is actually pretty brilliant... (1)

Black Parrot (19622) | about 2 years ago | (#39420811)

Make a bill so pants-on-head retarded

I suppose followers of Zarathustra would approve.

third argument (1)

misfit815 (875442) | about 2 years ago | (#39420679)

There are three arguments:

1. They're right, and labels should be added.
2. They're wrong, and labels shouldn't be added.
3. It's not their jurisdiction.

The most distressing part of news items like this is that the third argument is so frequently overlooked.

Re:third argument (1)

causality (777677) | about 2 years ago | (#39420817)

There are three arguments:

1. They're right, and labels should be added. 2. They're wrong, and labels shouldn't be added. 3. It's not their jurisdiction.

The most distressing part of news items like this is that the third argument is so frequently overlooked.

Even if they're absolutely, 100% right beyond all possible dispute, labels still shouldn't be added.

If you need laws like this to decide how to raise your children, you should not be a parent -- please give them up for adoption, for their own good.

How much? (1)

GmExtremacy (2579091) | about 2 years ago | (#39420681)

What real-world effects does this have, if any (crime rates are certainly not going up)? How severe is the effect? Which individuals does it affect? I've only heard of temporary aggressive behavior.

Re:How much? (2)

MysteriousPreacher (702266) | about 2 years ago | (#39420931)

What real-world effects does this have, if any (crime rates are certainly not going up)? How severe is the effect? Which individuals does it affect? I've only heard of temporary aggressive behavior.

Good question. Video gaming has grown explosively in the last 10-20 years, yet crime rates are generally in decline. Presumably video games are indeed causing aggressive behaviour, yet something else is happening that cancels this out. The alternative is that these Congressmen are fucking idiots, or pandering to an electorate that doesn't know what's wrong, or even if something is wrong, but are eager to be protected from whatever it is that might possibly exist.

darn kids these days! (1)

foradoxium (2446368) | about 2 years ago | (#39420691)

So does that darn rock music these kids listen too..look at this song, its like they want these kids breakin the law!?

Well, I'm not braggin', babe, so don't put me down
But I've got the fastest set of wheels in town
When something comes up to me, he don't even try
'Cause if it had a set of wings, man, I know she can fly

Just a little Deuce Coupe with a flathead mill
But she'll walk a Thunderbird like it's standin' still
She's ported and relieved and she's stroked and bored
She'll do a hundred and forty in the top end floored

Re:darn kids these days! (1)

Black Parrot (19622) | about 2 years ago | (#39420833)

So does that darn rock music these kids listen too..look at this song, its like they want these kids breakin the law!?

Well, I'm not braggin', babe, so don't put me down
But I've got the fastest set of wheels in town
When something comes up to me, he don't even try
'Cause if it had a set of wings, man, I know she can fly

Just a little Deuce Coupe with a flathead mill
But she'll walk a Thunderbird like it's standin' still
She's ported and relieved and she's stroked and bored
She'll do a hundred and forty in the top end floored

Recall that the Reagan Administration cancelled the Beach Boys for some public event, because they weren't American enough for some of the party faithful.

translation (3, Informative)

Black Parrot (19622) | about 2 years ago | (#39420709)

"The videogame industry should spend more money bribing congressmen, like the other entertainment industries. Then we'll start sucking up to them instead of picking on them."

Q-bert (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39420763)

totally messed me up as a child I now jump up and down stairs and make little noises and try and find little things to squash.

What else? (1)

aoism (996912) | about 2 years ago | (#39420771)

I suppose they should put labels on beer that it causes aggressive behavior. Then a note on cigarettes warning that quitting smoking can cause aggressive behavior. Then go to all of the parents that they convinced should feed their children Ritalin and let them know it causes aggressive behavior. Then visit the gym and let them know. Finally, top it off with letting them know that lying politicians can also cause aggression in the constituents that voted for them.

WARNING (1)

Absolut187 (816431) | about 2 years ago | (#39420789)

WARNING: CONGRESSMEN MAY BE FULL OF BULLSHIT.
Never play on or around congressmen*

*unless you want to be covered in bullshit.

Be right (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39420793)

Before each Congressmen spoke show the following slogan: "Beware of the Congressmen, my boy, as they only talk crap in their ignorance"

THey never learn (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39420797)

Congress always likes unworkable solutions to the timeless problems of children reading undesirable material or teenagers having too much sex. How about the radical idea of Congress concentrating on problems of war and peace, the economy, or environmental issues.

I wonder... (2)

Goodyob (2445598) | about 2 years ago | (#39420799)

Do congressmen never realize that it is bullying, and not violent games, that is the primary cause of school shootings because congressmen have a natural tendency to never listen to people?

pacman (2, Funny)

theeddie55 (982783) | about 2 years ago | (#39420829)

This is ridiculous, if we acted like computer game characters we'd all have spent the 80's running around in darkened rooms, popping pills and listening to repetitive music.

I blame Tetris (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39420851)

Every single episode of uncontrollable rage in my life can be attributed to Tetris.

There is nothing more diabolical in this life than building a perfect Tetris foundation sans only a single empty column, just waiting for that angelic 1x4 piece to maximize your score, building higher and higher, only to crash and burn in a sea of demonic malevolence - TAUNTED BY THE KNOWLEDDGE THAT THHHEE VERRRY NEXT PIECSSE WAS THE ONE THAT WAS NEEEEDED.

GGGGGGGAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH THHHATT 1X4 TRUCK CUT ME OFFFFFFFFF II WILLL HAVVEE MY VEEENGGEAAANCE

There is a serious lack of detail in the PDF (1)

Impish (669369) | about 2 years ago | (#39420927)

Is that all it takes to propose a bill? There is so little content to that PDF! I was prepared for some weighty legalese but it boils down to:

- Unsubstantiated link of violent video games and aggressive behaviour
- Request to put warning on all video games (except those for 3yrs old and younger)

This has to be something they tasked an intern with.

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