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New Samsung TV Watches You Watching It

samzenpus posted more than 2 years ago | from the who's-watching-who? dept.

Privacy 320

CanHasDIY writes "Straight out of 1984, Samsung has unveiled a new series of televisions with integrated cameras and microphones, complete with facial and voice recognition software. Best of all, there appears to be no physical indication of the mic and camera's status, so consumers have no way of knowing when they're being monitored, or by whom... and if you don't find the idea of a TV that watches you creepy enough, apparently Samsung's Terms of Service include a clause allowing third-party apps to make use of the monitoring system, and use the data gathered for their own purposes. Nothing Orwellian about that..."

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320 comments

Soviet Russia jokes overload (5, Funny)

blind biker (1066130) | more than 2 years ago | (#39433959)

Look guys, it's just too easy.

Re:Soviet Russia jokes overload (2)

FunkyRider (1128099) | more than 2 years ago | (#39433975)

What? In Soviet Russia, Jokes tell you!

In Soviet Russia (1)

Roachie (2180772) | more than 2 years ago | (#39433977)

There is NO TV!

In Soviet Russia (1)

Roachie (2180772) | more than 2 years ago | (#39433981)

Its too HARD!

Re:Soviet Russia jokes overload (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39434019)

In Soviet Russia, they have TVs like this too.

Re:Soviet Russia jokes overload (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39434055)

In Soviet America, TV watches you.

Re:Soviet Russia jokes overload (4, Informative)

Nugoo (1794744) | more than 2 years ago | (#39434189)

It's not only too easy, it's one of Yakov Smirnoff's actual jokes.

Re:Soviet Russia jokes overload (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39434239)

Look guys, it's just too easy.

'Biker!' screamed the shrewish voice from the telescreen. '1066130 Blind Biker! Yes, you! Post faster, please!'

A sudden hot sweat had broken out all over Biker's body. His face remained completely inscrutable. Never show dismay! Never show resentment! A single click of the mouse could give you away. He stood watching while the moderator raised her cursor above his post and -- one could not say gracefully, but with remarkable neatness and efficiency -- clicked the +1, Funny button.

'There, citizens! That's how I want to see you doing it. Watch me again. I've got thirty-nine tabs open and I've got four alts. Now look.' She made another post. 'You see my keyboard isn't crufty. You can all do it if you want to," she added as she clicked on another post. 'Anyone with under forty-five tabs open is perfectly capable of getting a solid first post. We don't all have the privilege of fighting in the front line, but at least we can all keep fit. Remember our boys in the Chans! And the screening bots in the NSA datacenters! Just think what they have to put up with. Now try again. That's better, comrade, that's much better,' she added encouragingly as Biker, with a violent lunge, succeeded in achieving a (+5, Funny) on a first post, for the first time in several years.

- Anonymous Coward, 2012

Re:Soviet Russia jokes overload (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39434253)

I for one welcome our Soviet Russia jokes overload...

Wait, what?

Samsung, huh? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39433969)

Can't be. I don't recall reading about Apple releasing a television set that watches you while you watch it.

Re:Samsung, huh? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39434011)

No, but maybe they're copying Apple TV and "improving" on it.

Re:Samsung, huh? (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39434199)

i just laughed so hard milk came out of my nose... and I wasn't even drinking milk.

Re:Samsung, huh? (1)

ichthus (72442) | more than 2 years ago | (#39434507)

<voice style="Nelson Muntz">Ha ha! You have to go to the doctor..</voice>

Be thankful... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39434283)

You may wonder how this happened. Fortunately, I can guess.

The CEO of Samsung watches Microsoft and Apple and wants to compete. How can he be more abusive? That's his answer.

Be thankful he isn't trying to compete with the NSA and CIA. If he was, the TV would listen and watch while it killed you.

Re:Be thankful... (2)

Vectronic (1221470) | more than 2 years ago | (#39434499)

I think it would be preferable if they were competing with NSA/CIA/DHS/etc... at least then whatever methods they (Samsung, et al) used to spy on you wouldn't be as useful to the former groups.

Given most "Smart" TV's have WiFi and/or Bluetooth, it's like Google LivingRoomView, BedroomView, ShitterView... just drive around with the right transceivers, SWAT will probably have access too.

Omnipresent Surveillance (2, Insightful)

mhajicek (1582795) | more than 2 years ago | (#39433973)

Omnipresent surveillance is inevitable, and will change society dramatically. The question what we choose to do with it.

Re:Omnipresent Surveillance (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39433989)

I choose to reject it. Not easy, but it can be done.

Re:Omnipresent Surveillance (5, Informative)

wierd_w (1375923) | more than 2 years ago | (#39434329)

Oh hush. It's very easy.

50 cent roll of electrical tape. Cut a 3x3cm square using scissors. Place it over the camera aperature.

1$ bottle of superglue. The watery runny kind that whicks up into paper, and has a long neck applicator. Lay the television temporarily on a soft, cushioned surface face up, say, on the sofa. Into the microphone grill, gently dribble the runny superglue. Leave in this position for 2 to 3 hours for maximal cone set. Return television to the entertainment center, and feel marginally safer.

The first one is obvious how it works, but the second helps prevent the vibrational movement of the microphone pickup, greatly reducing its sensitivity. Sufficiently glued so that the cone can't move the coil, or the piezo crystal can't be flexed, and you have basically neutered it without opening the system unit.

These little steps are not hard at all. The hard part is staunchly refusing to buy such an intrusive Little whore of a gadget in the first place, as the powers that be all try like mad to get you to swallow that shit pill, and telescreen sensors become standard features.

Shit like this is why I refuse to buy stuff like the kinect. While you can unplug the ethernet cable on your console to ensure the thought police and social services don't see you spanking junior on candid camera, (with audio and motion tracking!), the act of buying an obvious spying device and installing it in your home tells fucked up marketing assholes that you want MOAR spying. I don't want to send that message.

Re:Omnipresent Surveillance (4, Insightful)

EdIII (1114411) | more than 2 years ago | (#39434521)

Rejecting bullshit like that is about as easy as rejecting 3D televisions and cable TV. Practically no effort at all....

Re:Omnipresent Surveillance (5, Insightful)

gbjbaanb (229885) | more than 2 years ago | (#39434529)

actually, it's even easier. Leave the entire TV in its box. In the shop.

Re:Omnipresent Surveillance (1)

CaptainLugnuts (2594663) | more than 2 years ago | (#39434569)

You do realize this TV is advertised as being Skype enabled? Why would spend the money to get those features then disable it?

Re:Omnipresent Surveillance (1)

tqk (413719) | more than 2 years ago | (#39434403)

I choose to reject it. Not easy, but it can be done.

I just had a vision of Elvis Presley pulling out a gun and shooting his TV. I assume it was a scene from a movie I once saw.

Re:Omnipresent Surveillance (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39434053)

Omnipresent surveillance is inevitable, and will change society dramatically. The question what we choose to do with it.

I for one welcome our new blurred, jizz covered lens reverse TV watching overlords!

Re:Omnipresent Surveillance (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39434097)

1. Omnipresent surveillance is inevitable...

Says who? This might be true in public (but only if its uses don't upset the masses). It will never be true in my house.

2. ...will change society dramatically.

Vague. Meaningless. Probably untrue.

3. The question what we choose to do with it.

We already know what we will do with it. What we've done with "it" throughout history. Use it crush human nature until humans get sick of it and start slaughtering each other. Then we'll use it for decent uses and people will look back and be shocked by our ignorance and brutality.

Re:Omnipresent Surveillance (1)

brantondaveperson (1023687) | more than 2 years ago | (#39434233)

Crikey, is that what happened with regular TV?

Re:Omnipresent Surveillance (3, Insightful)

AHuxley (892839) | more than 2 years ago | (#39434515)

Re: It will never be true in my house.
Depends who is giving you your computer, device or job?
A school can network to your home with little public comment about camera use
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robbins_v._Lower_Merion_School_District [wikipedia.org]
The background paperwork once needed for high risk, cleared work is now becoming normal
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/job-applicants-asked-turn-facebook-passwords-article-1.1047427 [nydailynews.com]
Then you have the CIA hinting at the joy of a fully networked US home
http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/03/petraeus-tv-remote/ [wired.com]

Porn. (1)

khasim (1285) | more than 2 years ago | (#39434125)

Duh!

Think of it more like "chat roulette".

Re:Omnipresent Surveillance (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39434143)

This isn't surveillance it's just a fucking feature. Just don't plug your TV to the internet it's not hard.

Re:Omnipresent Surveillance (1)

teslafreak (684543) | more than 2 years ago | (#39434245)

This, or disable them. Snip a wire or two, cut a solder trace, it's probably not tough. In fact, covering the ports with electrical tape would disable the camera completely, and most likely impair the microphone to a great degree.

Re:Omnipresent Surveillance (4, Insightful)

Master Moose (1243274) | more than 2 years ago | (#39434353)

The problem is, by bypassing the "feature" you are still paying for it, which will encourage Samgsung and other TV makers to continue to inculde it.

Re:Omnipresent Surveillance (2)

wierd_w (1375923) | more than 2 years ago | (#39434455)

A couple back room deals, and this becomes very difficult.

Your standard coaxial cable hookup doubles as a physical layer support for ethernet. Just takes a clandestine cable modem being integrated into the box to report back for "quality assurance", and you have a connection that cannot be "unplugged" unless you want to ditch your cable provider, or attach a frequency scrubber in-line before the TV. (Potentially eliminating your ability to use PPV, remote DVR, etc.)

Trust me, if this kind of shit gets pushed, "unplug the internet!" Won't be so easy to do while using the TV as intended.

once they invent some kind of wave that transmits (1)

ClintJCL (264898) | more than 2 years ago | (#39434559)

Hey Anonymous Coward - once they invent some kind of "wave" that travels "wirelessly" through the air and transmits information... Then I bet you'll really be embarrassed! Think about it - we could possibly receive information WITHOUT A WIRE. I'm going to call it.. the radio.

Re:Omnipresent Surveillance (1)

AHuxley (892839) | more than 2 years ago | (#39434573)

The will just iPad it, you want a fun tv, you will sign in once- they get your face, modem details (mac), sync it with your bookmarks, browser, cookies.
After you have set up the language, network, colour, sent data back you might get the option to unplug your TV from the network.
Until then your stuck in setup ;)

Re:Omnipresent Surveillance (4, Interesting)

cpu6502 (1960974) | more than 2 years ago | (#39434201)

Common response: "If you're not breaking the law, why wouldn't you let the cops search your car? (Or track you with cameras?) (Or record all your internet actions?)" -- It's amazing how easily americans are to give up their freedom to the government tyrants.

Re:Omnipresent Surveillance (5, Insightful)

TheCouchPotatoFamine (628797) | more than 2 years ago | (#39434237)

the best answer is always "to protect others whose freedom of political and spiritual expression is threatened by your actions". Always.

Re:Omnipresent Surveillance (1)

EdIII (1114411) | more than 2 years ago | (#39434497)

Oooh. Gooooood answer. 10/10.

Deep breath (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39433979)

Give me a moment. I am frightened into incoherence.

AaaaaaaaaaaaRGH

AAAAAAAAAAAARGH

Careful... (1)

FreedomOfThought (2544248) | more than 2 years ago | (#39433985)

Try not to show fear while watching... That is dangerous. "Your worst enemy, he reflected, was your nervous system. At any moment the tension inside you was liable to translate itself into some visible symptom."

Reality TV ... (1, Insightful)

donstenk (74880) | more than 2 years ago | (#39433987)

.. the wrong way round! And possibly even more boring.

In what way is this different from your typical smartphone, tablet, most laptops, and soon I imagine, a Samsung fridge?

This is

Re:Reality TV ... (2, Funny)

xstonedogx (814876) | more than 2 years ago | (#39434197)

I don't know about you, but I have a TV on my dresser and it gives me a great view from my bed. I know from experience (and from mirrored closet doors) that the view back is pretty god damn fantastic too. Not sure I want most strangers to see all that, though. Just the special ones.

Re:Reality TV ... (2)

ColdWetDog (752185) | more than 2 years ago | (#39434439)

Rest assured that we don't want to see it either.

Gratitude and joy (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39433991)

2+2=4 damn it!

Good luck with that (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39433993)

I'd just put duct tape over the lens, or better yet, open the thing up and snip the wires going to the mic and camera(s)
The warranty would go bye-bye but my privacy doesn't.

Re:Good luck with that (5, Insightful)

multiben (1916126) | more than 2 years ago | (#39434067)

Maybe you could buy a different brand? Or is that too easy?

Re:Good luck with that (1)

betterunixthanunix (980855) | more than 2 years ago | (#39434145)

Or just not own a TV:

http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/2008/01/26/28-not-having-a-tv/ [stuffwhitepeoplelike.com]

Re:Good luck with that (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39434215)

Obligatory Onion article here [theonion.com] .

Re:Good luck with that (1)

cpu6502 (1960974) | more than 2 years ago | (#39434259)

Hulu + Computer is the TV of a new generation. Cable is so old school.

Re:Good luck with that (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39434461)

Plugged into my 55-65 inch TV/Monitor...

Why yes I do have this setup... But netflix instead of Hulu...

Re:Good luck with that (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39434157)

Where is the sense of righteous indignation with that?

Re:Good luck with that (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39434445)

How do you show off then?

Re:Good luck with that (2)

Idaho (12907) | more than 2 years ago | (#39434131)

So obviously you have something to hide. Doubleplusungood.

Re:Good luck with that (1)

cpu6502 (1960974) | more than 2 years ago | (#39434147)

As with my cars I would obey the rules of the warranty (i.e. change the oil every 7500 miles even though synthetic oil is good for 10,000+), and when it runs-out THEN I would make permanent modifications. So I wouldn't be cracking-open the TV immediately; I'd just be taping over the lens that first year.

What is the difference between this and xbox? (0)

Meshach (578918) | more than 2 years ago | (#39433995)

Sounds the same as having a web cam or an xbox. They both have cameras that can broadcast images.

Nothing to see here...

Re:What is the difference between this and xbox? (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39434049)

The webcam on my laptop has an LED light up when powered on. This TV lacks such an indicator.

Re:What is the difference between this and xbox? (5, Informative)

philip.paradis (2580427) | more than 2 years ago | (#39434089)

Best of all, there appears to be no physical indication of the mic and camera's status, so consumers have no way of knowing when they're being monitored, or by whom... and if you don't find the idea of a TV that watches you creepy enough, apparently Samsung's Terms of Service include a clause allowing third-party apps to make use of the monitoring system, and use the data gathered for their own purposes.

Did you somehow manage to miss that part of the summary? It's only most of the summary, after all. In short, there's plenty to see here, only it's third parties doing the seeing, and you apparently don't get any say in when they do the seeing, or what they use the footage for.

Re:What is the difference between this and xbox? (1, Interesting)

bananaquackmoo (1204116) | more than 2 years ago | (#39434489)

Again, is that somehow different than the XBOX?

Re:What is the difference between this and xbox? (2)

Dantoo (176555) | more than 2 years ago | (#39434175)

It's simply convergence. Think of the television as a large smartphone. In the near future when you sit down at the Christmas feast you will be able to share with friends and family in far flung places. You'll be able to attend meetings and interact at lectures. You can already do this at your pc? Then you already understand, just think of interacting in the lounge-room rather than the basement. The television is just an oversized monitor now, it's just getting incrementally smarter (and bigger).

Need to see a doctor or receive post-hospital care at home? Your internet connect television/ip phone allows this to happen in your home. You will be able to plug your auxiliary medical kit into the usb slot and your practitioner will see your vital signs directly.
It's Jetsons but sadly without the flying car.

The television has become the focal point of media in the home. Making it the communication device as well is a very simple step in the digital age.

Re:What is the difference between this and xbox? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39434361)

Agree, but disagree.

I think it's another attempt to return Televisions to the actual focal point of the living room, not just an accessory to something else. (e.g., Means of displaying a game system, bluray, media player) The TV isn't going to be the wall screen appliance, it's just going to take on a lot of the social features that companies wish TVs could do in the past.

I wonder if they're thinking of facial recognition as a new means of check ins for things. Who needs Nielsen when Samsung can not only see who's watching what, but determine if they are actively watching it? Think about the fine tuning you can do with TV advertisements if you know who is watching and when. Or a Facebook integration that checks in when you start watching a show.

I'm not saying these are things I desire, but I'm sure it's what they're imagining.

Re:What is the difference between this and xbox? (1)

Eponymous Hero (2090636) | more than 2 years ago | (#39434313)

except that i can watch tv without xbox or a web cam, and i can play video games without a kinect. if i have a kinect, i can unplug just it from the xbox and still use the xbox to watch tv. xbox is also more forthcoming about how kinect data is used.

Max Headroom? (4, Interesting)

hackwrench (573697) | more than 2 years ago | (#39434001)

What about Max Headroom?

Re:Max Headroom? (1)

Anomalyst (742352) | more than 2 years ago | (#39434209)

You mean M-M-M-Max Headroom.
FTFY.

CIA: we'll spy on you through your appliances (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39434013)

More and more personal and household devices are connecting to the internet, from your television to your car navigation systems to your light switches. CIA Director David Petraeus cannot wait to spy on you through them.

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/03/petraeus-tv-remote/

Reminds me of those School Laptops (5, Informative)

cpu6502 (1960974) | more than 2 years ago | (#39434041)

.....which were provided to Pennsylvanian teens, and had integrated cameras, but there was no indication to the users that they were being recorded in their bedrooms (by the government).

Re:Reminds me of those School Laptops (1)

supersloshy (1273442) | more than 2 years ago | (#39434151)

The difference between this and that is that these TVs and the laptops are physically capable of spying but not made to do that. The schools themselves installed software which spied on the kids. These TVs are perfectly fine. However... That doesn't mean they can't be made to be otherwise.

Re:Reminds me of those School Laptops (4, Informative)

MBCook (132727) | more than 2 years ago | (#39434349)

They were Macs, they had indications. When they were recording, the little green light next to the camera was on.

The students noticed it. Some of them had reported it, but were told it was nothing and to not worry about it.

Re:Reminds me of those School Laptops (1)

Chewbacon (797801) | more than 2 years ago | (#39434441)

Actually, there was a light that came on those laptops. That is what raised suspicion, but the school lied about it with some cover story. As you know, they were later caught.

Why? (1)

multiben (1916126) | more than 2 years ago | (#39434047)

So many questions, but the first of them all is "why would I now buy a Samsung TV"? I mean, I think they make a pretty decent TV, but they're not good enough to invite all of Samsung and its affiliates into my living room. What am I getting out the exchange here?

Re:Why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39434409)

What am I getting out the exchange here?

You'll become a porn star, what would you want more?

It begs the question: (1, Interesting)

decipher_saint (72686) | more than 2 years ago | (#39434073)

Who watches the watcher watchers?

Re:It begs the question: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39434217)

Presumably someone else if they're using a Samsung TV!

Or maybe they watch themselves watching themselves watching someone else - I think there was a Yo Dawg in there somewhere.

And? (0)

supersloshy (1273442) | more than 2 years ago | (#39434091)

I get how everybody goes crazy whenever anything has the potential to spy on you, but relax. It's nothing that hasn't been done before. If you're so afraid about TVs becoming more advanced, then why not be so scared about cell phones, game consoles, iPods and the like? They all have cameras, microphones, and internet connectivity, but they're used for entertainment and functionality, not for spying. Sure, these things can have a government-mandated backdoor of sorts, but worrying about every piece of advanced technology will get us nowhere.

Besides it's not like these companies have all of the staff and resources necessary to watch and monitor the thousands to millions of TV users all at once. This is mostly meant for facial recognition technology, Skype, and the like. Chill, people.

Re:And? (1)

CanHasDIY (1672858) | more than 2 years ago | (#39434181)

Besides it's not like these companies have all of the staff and resources necessary to watch and monitor the thousands to millions of TV users all at once.

You're probably right. I mean, it's not as if clandestine government agencies are building huge data warehouses [slashdot.org] or anything, right?

OK, so maybe they are; but hey, the top clandestine government agent promises he's not spying on you, [slashdot.org] and what possible reason is there to not believe every word the country's top spy-master says?

Re:And? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39434315)

Besides it's not like these companies have all of the staff and resources necessary to watch and monitor the thousands to millions of TV users all at once.

Erm... why do people always assume that I only care about myself? I care if anyone is being watched or spied on, no matter they're being spied on by.

Re:And? (1)

networkBoy (774728) | more than 2 years ago | (#39434387)

Interesting, I use a low end cell phone with no "smart" features, or a camera. Naturally it has a mic, it is a phone.
My computer has no webcam installed, my notebook has a yellow stickie label over the camera.
To deal with snooping on my web search history I have a perl script that does an lpw get on random words from the dictionary and clicks a random number of links randomly spaced apart. This generates search noise.
-nB

Duct tape (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39434095)

There is nothing that duct tape cannot fix.

Possible legitimate uses are... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39434101)

...built-in Skype app and the head tracking I believe is required for glasses-free 3D for multiple viewers. Not surprised about the lack of a camera/mic status light, although that probably has more to do with some designer's idea of aesthetics than Orwell.

If you're really concerned about this, just don't hook up the networking. Cameras and microphones are useless if they can't send their data anywhere useful. Sure, you lose the Skype but you keep the glasses-free 3D. I mean really, who actually needs an Internet-connected TV?

Re:Possible legitimate uses are... (1)

KhabaLox (1906148) | more than 2 years ago | (#39434207)

I mean really, who actually needs an Internet-connected TV?

Me. I have a Sony IP TV with Netflix, Hulu, Vudu, Crackle and a host of other apps. I pretty much only use the Netflix app, but I use it a lot. It saves me the time and heat/expense/hassle of having to turn on my PS3. I just wish I could get HBO Go on it.... hmm.. maybe that's available on the PS3.

This is easy to defeat (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39434117)

Just change a toddlers diaper in front of the TV and then complain to the FBI that Samsung and their 3rd party partners are trafficking child porn.

5 steps to recall (5, Funny)

Voyager529 (1363959) | more than 2 years ago | (#39434123)

1.) rig a secondary/tertiary monitor output on a nearby desktop and wire it to the TV's camera/audio input.
2.) set the computer output to a nonstop 24/7 loop of "Friday" by Rebecca Black, along with a slide show that alternates between Goatse, 2 girls 1 cup, and horse porn.
3.) bask in the fact that somwhere, someone is regretting the release of this technology.
4.) Don't EVER cross the wires from step 1.
5.) Profit.

Re:5 steps to recall (1)

khellendros1984 (792761) | more than 2 years ago | (#39434323)

For bonus points, synchronize the actions in the video with the music.

Re:5 steps to recall (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39434437)

Wouldn't work in the UK. You'd be arrested immediately for possession of horse porn. (Unless you mean horse-on-horse action)

Bye, Samsung! (1)

_pi-away (308135) | more than 2 years ago | (#39434133)

I have a Samsung TV, and overall I really like it. But with shit like this going on I won't be buying one again.

Bye, Samsung!

finally, actual reality TV (1)

alienzed (732782) | more than 2 years ago | (#39434141)

I hope it takes a page from the Wii and reminds people to stop watching for a while. They could couple it with shots of the consumer looking like a total zombie to convince them to get the heck up and move around for a while.

Consumers are stupid (0)

Cazekiel (1417893) | more than 2 years ago | (#39434159)

Won't be a problem y'know, if, well... nobody buys the little babysitter. I tend not to fear shit I don't buy. If NO one buys it, they might not be able to sell them, amirite? *shakes head*... this is the shit I bring up when people complain about Big Banks. Don't USE a Big Bank, refuse to go to car dealerships that use Big Banks, and eventually, it'll all trickle down into those Big Banks failing. When it comes to this brand-spanking new throwback to '84, I don't care what doohickeys the thing has, keep it outta my living room, kthxbi.

Oh, I so want one of these in my bedroom (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39434161)

I mean their selected partners and 3rd party apps wouldn't do anything evil, right?

I wonder if I can continuously loop 2 girls 1 cup through the video stream?

free security cctv? (1)

moneybabylon (2226376) | more than 2 years ago | (#39434165)

Does it mean if it sees a break-in, it will call the cops for me?

Footage (5, Funny)

rampant mac (561036) | more than 2 years ago | (#39434169)

I'll go out on a limb here and say:

This TV is going to end up capturing so much footage of bored men fapping to porn.

so what (1)

nimbius (983462) | more than 2 years ago | (#39434177)

that netflix-streaming laptop has a camera and mic too. throw in a coupon, offer a free "app" or "show" or something to get their attention. if all else fails just do it anyway. we all know the repercussions for a major multinational conglomerate violating your personal privacy basically amount to a dog and pony show anyhow.

This is getting retarded (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39434195)

Is there even a chance that someone with a big HDTV with a connection to Netflix, Hulu, and some crappy ISP offering would also be interested in talking to someone else via video conferencing, just like those laptops they were selling approximately 10 years ago? HDTV "apps" that respond to gestures or voice commands? Just sayin'. Now, it would of course be far better if there's a switch or setting to deactivate those microphones and cameras, because no one wants to put unsightly masking tape over the camera aperture of their brand new tv, but nerds who post on Slashdot are supposed to have enough brains to work around these problems.

Oh QUIT this bullshit already. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39434223)

No, not the people making these things, the retarded privacy nuts crying over these things.

THIS. IS. USEFUL.
Why? Because it means content producers ACTUALLY know what you want, not basing their viewing figures on some crap-tier, highly broken viewership figures that come from absolutely piss-poor methods of recording it surprises me that they are still even used!

You privacy nuts are holding back EVERYTHING. Get the hell out of society already, we don't want you here!
And this, for once, ISN'T A TROLL!
You people are the reason so many good shows get cancelled despite large numbers of viewers.
It is the reverse-vocal scenario.
People who watch shows are split up in to various groups, specifically vocal and non-vocal.
Non-vocal groups typically don't talk about a show much after the episode aired for around a couple days after showing.
Vocal ones typically speak about the thing constantly.
And it essentially comes down to that the vocal ones are pulled towards certain types of shows as opposed to others. (reality TV, soaps, comedy are big pullers)
Sadly, THIS IS ACTUALLY USED as part of gauging how popular things is.
Nielson Rating, sure everyone has heard of that, such a horribly broken system.
All of these horrible rating systems are no better than viewing diaries.

A TV that can give absolute figures on viewership? WHY THE HELL WOULDN'T YOU WANT THIS?
Would you be happy if there was a big red button that TURNED IT OFF so "all the lemmings" will be "spied on"?
Hell, even if it was just a simple pingback saying "ID#12127872348 is watching The Simpsons", that would be significantly more helpful than the hell of a mess that is current ratings systems.

Go ahead, cry foul at BIG BAD BROTHER WAN' SPY ON YOUR TV, enjoy seeing all your shows cancelled. (like has been done various times on here, actually, most likely by these paranoid fruitloops as well)
Look through this crap and tell me we wouldn't be better off with absolute viewership figures. I dare you to. (hint: you are already wrong before you posted)
Audience Measurement Systems [wikipedia.org]

Re:Oh QUIT this bullshit already. (1, Insightful)

aaaaaaargh! (1150173) | more than 2 years ago | (#39434319)

Boy, you are retarded. How about getting a life?

Problem solved (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39434257)

Just don't buy it.

No more Samsung for me. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39434261)

One of my TVs and a BluRay player are Samsung. The TV picture is fine, but it lacks connectivity features which I admittedly should have researched before I bought it.

The BR player though has these but it is extremely clunky. Their "Internet@TV" (Apps) no longer work. It wants to install something even though it says it has the latest firmware. Research on the internet tells me other people have had the same problem, but I could find no solution. But wait - Samsung has online chat support. Wonderful. I tried it several times and after spending ~15 minutes letting them go through their troubleshooting script the first 2 support people just disappeared. A 3rd try ended by directing me to a page for further support (I forget their terminology). I asked what's this? It wants the model and serial number and I can't even enter either. She tells me to use Internet Explorer. By now I'm getting annoyed. I told her I don't have IE (a lie) and ask what this will do for me? (Will they direct me to a service center? Will I have to ship it somewhere? Is this a 2nd-level support that can provide a solution?) After a minute or 2 she tells me I'll have to ship it somewhere. She believes there is an internal hardware failure that requires service. There's no way I'm going to do that. The apps suck (mostly silly children's games) and Netflix and the disc player itself are fine and I have no idea how long I will be without them if I ship it. I didn't even ask if I would have to pay (I assume I would since it's 2 years old). I'd sooner buy a new BluRay player.

Last night NetFlix started acting up (freezing - not responding at all except to completely exit or turn the machine off entirely). It also has problems with certain BluRay discs - completely unwatchable.

If this article is at all accurate - and indeed it mostly asks questions - I don't want that stuff in my home.

Celine DIon CD, Electrical tape and an air gap (1)

Anomalyst (742352) | more than 2 years ago | (#39434263)

problem solved. A John Tesh or Yonni CD is an acceptable substitutes.

Re:Celine DIon CD, Electrical tape and an air gap (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39434337)

Are you suggesting we tape the CD up so anyone using the camera will see the guts of the camera in the reflection off this disc? What would that achieve?

regulations are stupid (1)

Sebastopol (189276) | more than 2 years ago | (#39434295)

Yeah, who needs oversight committees for corporations. They never do anything wrong, trust the free market, because you can always buy a TV from a manufacturer who DOESN'T do this, until they all do it because there's so much profit to be made by selling the data. Of course I suppose the free market is still at work here, because people could decide between NOT watching spy-TV or watching it and giving up their privacy, TV isn't a constitutional RIGHT. Hmm... I appear to have confused myself.

the inidications (1)

Skapare (16644) | more than 2 years ago | (#39434359)

At least HAL showed a red light.

Samsung TV (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39434451)

Samsung: Watching you fap since 2012!

Hello friends... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39434485)

http://www.filmizle100.com this site very nice

Child porn? (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39434523)

If this thing videos some teenagers screwing, will employees of the company be prosecuted under child porn laws? Will the teenagers be arrested for making child porn?

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