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Historic Heat In North America Turns Winter To Summer

samzenpus posted more than 2 years ago | from the hotter-than-hot dept.

Earth 618

An anonymous reader writes "A huge, lingering ridge of high pressure over the eastern half of the United States brought summer-like temperatures to North America in March 2012. The warm weather shattered records across the central and eastern United States and much of Canada. From the article: 'Records are not only being broken across the country, they're being broken in unusual ways. Chicago, for example, saw temperatures above 26.6Celsius (80Fahrenheit) every day between March 14-18, breaking records on all five days. For context, the National Weather Service noted that Chicago typically averages only one day in the eighties each in April. And only once in 140 years of weather observations has April produced as many 80Fahrenheit days as this March.'"

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yawn (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39435265)

And only once in 140 years of weather observations has April produced as many 80Fahrenheit days as this March.

So it has happened before. And on geological time scales, that was, like, just ten minutes ago.

Re:yawn (4, Interesting)

Kelbear (870538) | more than 2 years ago | (#39435371)

What bothers me is wondering what sort of changes in the weather can be expected during the rest of the year after such an unusually warm winter. As mentioned, there is very little data, perhaps nothing at all, or perhaps even more bizarre weather will follow. As a layman, I have no idea, but I imagine that having strange weather for a full season will have residual effects somewhere.

Re:yawn (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39435419)

quick, find a butterfly to offset the effect.

Re:yawn (4, Funny)

Jason Levine (196982) | more than 2 years ago | (#39435599)

I found one but accidentally stepped on it. What do I do now? Also, did anyone hear thunder?

Re:yawn (4, Insightful)

cpu6502 (1960974) | more than 2 years ago | (#39435581)

It's only warm in the eastern half. In California it's freakin' cold!

In October we had snow in the east, which was one of he earliest snows ever. And LAST winter we set records for cold & snowfall amounts! So it is not really global warming; it's just month-to-month/year-to-year variation.

Re:yawn (3, Interesting)

frosty_tsm (933163) | more than 2 years ago | (#39435679)

It's only warm in the eastern half. In California it's freakin' cold!

Yup, high 50s and rain over here. Freakin' cold.

Re:yawn (2)

cpu6502 (1960974) | more than 2 years ago | (#39435811)

It has warmed-up some, but it snowed over the weekend.

Re:yawn (5, Informative)

realityimpaired (1668397) | more than 2 years ago | (#39435871)

So it is not really global warming; it's just month-to-month/year-to-year variation.

Not global warming, maybe, but definitely global climate change. Though it is an el nino year, it's much too early in the year for it to be affecting the weather this much. In Ottawa, ON (described as the world capital with the most extreme weather... coldest winters + hottest summers), we got over 85 degrees fahrenheit today, when it should be closer to 40 degrees. Today was June/July weather, not March weather.

Things are changing. And while countries like Canada and Greenland stand to benefit from a longer planting season, it's really hurting countries like Kenya (in the middle of one of the worst droughts ever).

Re:yawn (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39435609)

all our perennials at work are ready to go, idiots are trying to plant tomatoes already lol. and my cut flowers/bulbs just shot right up i dunno what to do with them all have two large coolers full of flowers that should be ready for Easter not now!!

Re:yawn (1)

slimjim8094 (941042) | more than 2 years ago | (#39435747)

Drought. Bad ones too. In my part of NJ, we got a few inches of snow this year, instead of a few feet. The reservoirs are going to be bone-dry, since there's no snow to melt.

Re:yawn (5, Interesting)

Gideon Wells (1412675) | more than 2 years ago | (#39435917)

What people in my area, Pennsylvania, don't get is we get a lot of our water from melting snow. We had three days of snow, period, all winter. It all melted within a day or so. North America is going to be heading for drastic droughts. We have communities drilling wells for new water sources as is. We also have communities with water supplies either contaminated by Marcellus drilling or natural gas migration. Doesn't matter which at the moment, water is becoming scarce.

This is why I am fuming at Republicans not getting the problem with the Keystone Pipeline. The U.S.'s bread basket is watered through a giant underground aquifer. The bread basket will survive the coming drought. If the K.P. goes through, as planned, and has a B.P. style incident? There goes the country's capability to feed ourselves. We'll be trading exporting food/importing oil for importing oil from Canada/importing food if we have more years like we had this year in our future.

This warm weather is scarring me for the coming year, climate change or fluke event.

Re:yawn (5, Informative)

stox (131684) | more than 2 years ago | (#39435431)

Read carefully, only once in 140 years ( the period such records have been kept in Chicago ), has there been a run of as many days in the 80's in April, as we have had this March. Never, in the records, have we had a run like this before in March.

Re:yawn (1)

SJHillman (1966756) | more than 2 years ago | (#39435447)

It happened before in April, not in March. I don't know about Chicago, but in New York, March usually still yields one or two good blizzards almost every year while April might have a good blizzard once or twice a decade.

Re:yawn (2)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39435483)

>> And only once in 140 years of weather observations has April produced as many 80Fahrenheit days as this March.

> So it has happened before. And on geological time scales, that was, like, just ten minutes ago.

Are you still talking about global warming?

Because your comment fits very well regarding extinction.

Yawn now.

Re:yawn (2)

Gerzel (240421) | more than 2 years ago | (#39435661)

No. It happened before a month later.

And on geological time scales the human race isn't much, thus we DO have to worry about shorter time scales.

Re:yawn (2)

polymeris (902231) | more than 2 years ago | (#39435879)

Not sure if you are serious, but April != March.
And, yeah, it probably has happened before, but the point is, we don't have data on what consequences this will have.

first (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39435271)

first post 124

Completely inexplicable... (5, Funny)

John.P.Jones (601028) | more than 2 years ago | (#39435293)

If only we had some sort of theory that could explain this inexplicable change in weather patterns.

Re:Completely inexplicable... (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39435327)

Oh my gosh, this is concrete evidence that man made global warming is real!

Re:Completely inexplicable... (4, Funny)

amicusNYCL (1538833) | more than 2 years ago | (#39435657)

Oh my gosh, this is concrete evidence that man made global warming is real!

Humans don't affect the planet at all, moron, this is the fault of the fish! They fart too much. Every time you see a bubble on the surface of the ocean, the atmosphere dies a little.

And if it isn't the fish's fault, then blame the ants. Those bastards are everywhere, and everyone knows an ant colony that stretches miles pollutes way more than any little coal powerplant.

Re:Completely inexplicable... (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39435387)

I'm sure it would also explain the brutally cold winter that Europe experienced this year. http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/02/03/cold-weather-kills-more-than-220-in-europe-danube-freezes-over-france-set-to-break-power-consumption-records/

Re:Completely inexplicable... (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39435495)

I'm sure it would also explain the brutally cold winter that Europe experienced this year. http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/02/03/cold-weather-kills-more-than-220-in-europe-danube-freezes-over-france-set-to-break-power-consumption-records/

What I remember from thermodynamics when I took it with Newton: pumping energy (heat) into system making it go all kaflooey. Hotter and colder and then even colder to outrageously hot.

Nope, obviously a conspiracy on the part on those people who wrote the laws of thermodynamics in order to eventually tax us and hand over our God given sovereignty to the UN!

Re:Completely inexplicable... (4, Informative)

MrHanky (141717) | more than 2 years ago | (#39435521)

I live in Europe, and have had a very mild winter. It's true, though, that we had a slight dip below average the first week of February. I think it might have something to do with being just outside the high pressure area that settled over central Europe, bringing winds from Siberia.

Re:Completely inexplicable... (1)

maxwell demon (590494) | more than 2 years ago | (#39435915)

While the winter overall indeed was very mild, the dip was definitely not slight. It was relatively short, but quite deep.

Re:Completely inexplicable... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39435531)

yes, butually cold..

"Swaths of Britain were bracing for snow after temperatures plunged to minus 11 degrees Celsius overnight in Chesham, southeast England, with authorities warning that the cold could catch people off-guard after a warmer-than-normal winter so far."

Re:Completely inexplicable... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39435573)

Dey took r cold!!!

Re:Completely inexplicable... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39435401)

Yes, it's never been this hot before and it wasn't getting hotter before MM CO2 .... oh wait

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:EPICA_temperature_plot.svg

Re:Completely inexplicable... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39435409)

Too bad there's no credible scientific explanation of why climate changes the way it does.

Re:Completely inexplicable... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39435591)

Too bad there's no credible scientific explanation of why climate changes the way it does.

Me thinks you mean this sarcastically but you put the word credible in it which actually makes it factual.

Re:Completely inexplicable... (1)

Xipher (868293) | more than 2 years ago | (#39435455)

Climate change is a bitch

Re:Completely inexplicable... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39435489)

If only we had some sort of theory that could explain this inexplicable change in weather patterns.

You means there's some truth to it all and it's not just Al Gore trying to piss off conservatives? Next thing you know there'll be proof of Peak Oil. Oh wait a minute, that happen back in the early 70s, never mind.

Re:Completely inexplicable... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39435869)

Even if there's some truth in it, Al Gore is still a hypocritical asshole. And Peak Oil has been fracked out of existence for the foreseeable future.

Re:Completely inexplicable... (5, Funny)

scubamage (727538) | more than 2 years ago | (#39435529)

I'll tell you about my theory... the day after tomorrow!!!!

Re:Completely inexplicable... (1)

bartyboy (99076) | more than 2 years ago | (#39435587)

One point of data, every 140 years? You'll have to wait 280 more years before being able to identify a trend. At least 7 or 8 points will be needed to do any sort of statistical analysis, if we assume the points follow a standard distribution.

We'll chat in a thousand years, if you're still around.

Re:Completely inexplicable... (4, Interesting)

peragrin (659227) | more than 2 years ago | (#39435805)

ah but those on both side of global warming think 100 years of data most of it not very accurate is enough to plot trends.

What i want to know is not what the the records are but how the rest of the year faired. If 1910 and 1945 were close were their summers hotter or colder than normal? dry or wet? past behaviour isn't a prediction of the future but you do need data points to start with.

Re:Completely inexplicable... (1)

DJRumpy (1345787) | more than 2 years ago | (#39435631)

That would be a very convenient truth....

If only we had some sort of theory that could explain this inexplicable change in weather patterns.

Re:Completely inexplicable... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39435641)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Niña

Re:Completely inexplicable... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39435699)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/dip_wit

Re:Completely inexplicable... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39435733)

Except he was making a global warming joke and you were too stupid to realize that.

Re:Completely inexplicable... (5, Informative)

Jason Levine (196982) | more than 2 years ago | (#39435757)

This warm season actually doesn't have as much to do with Global Warming/Climate Change as it has to do with a double whammy of La Nina and an Arctic Oscillation. The former brought unusually warm weather while the latter kept the colder, arctic air away from us. The combination of the two warming effects gave us a warm, relatively snowless winter.

This isn't to say that GW/CC isn't real. Just that this winter is explained by other forces at play.

Re:Completely inexplicable... (5, Funny)

werewolf1031 (869837) | more than 2 years ago | (#39435899)

Hey, you! Quit being calm and rational! We're having an ideological screaming match over here, keep it down would ya?

Re:Completely inexplicable... (0)

uncadonna (85026) | more than 2 years ago | (#39435817)

+1

so it was hot for a few days in March? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39435303)

The headline is a bit sensational for what was essentially a heat wave.

Yeah it might be newsworthy that there were record highs, but the seasons haven't suddenly reversed themselves.

Re:so it was hot for a few days in March? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39435361)

The headline didn't imply a reversal of seasons. It implied a one way shift.

Re:so it was hot for a few days in March? (2)

King InuYasha (1159129) | more than 2 years ago | (#39435397)

Nature has balance. What is worrying is what will be the consequences of this week-long stint of a heat wave. Likely, we'll see a week-long cold wave sometime in April.

Re:so it was hot for a few days in March? (1)

SJHillman (1966756) | more than 2 years ago | (#39435469)

Although the heat this past week was exceptional, the entire winter has been unusually warm. We haven't had more than three consecutive days with snow on the ground here (Western NY) in more than 12 months.

Re:so it was hot for a few days in March? (3, Funny)

Jason Levine (196982) | more than 2 years ago | (#39435771)

Knowing my luck, it will be right before my planned trip out of town and will bring a record 3 foot snowfall that keeps all planes grounded for a week.

Re:so it was hot for a few days in March? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39435429)

There will likely be huge consequences, both economically and ecologically.

Remember folks weather isn't climate, unless it is (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39435319)

Ah, of course, some record high temperatures somewhere means Global Warming. Never mind all the failed predictions from the Warmin Alarmists.

Re:Remember folks weather isn't climate, unless it (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39435383)

Well, the scientific consensus is that global warming is happening and that man is contributing toward it.

Not all theories and consequent predictions are correct and complete - in most areas of science this is accepted calmly and rationally, but in this one it's suddenly proof that the whole premise is wrong. Kinda like saying evolution is a crock of shit just because one piece of fossil evidence isn't fully explained by a previous assumption. Not that I've ever seen global-warming deniers as any more rational than evolution-deniers, but they tend to find it hard to see themselves that way.

Re:Remember folks weather isn't climate, unless it (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39435669)

Science doesn't work by consensus. The evidence that supports the theory of evolution has been tested over and over again. The theory makes concrete predictions which have been observed to work out, over and over again.

Too bad climate 'science" cannot say the same about their so-called "evidence" that man-made CO2 is the cause of global warming, as opposed to other possible causes, both man-made and natural.

Re:Remember folks weather isn't climate, unless it (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39435767)

Science doesn't work by consensus.

Yes, that's exactly how science works. Newton eloquently explained it in terms of philosophical induction.

(Now Popper's more simplistic view of the scientific method gets a lot of airtime, and that's often the basis for fights with the intelligent design gang who deny empirical falsification as a basis for science. But that's OK because we can disregard Popper too.)

Re:Remember folks weather isn't climate, unless it (0)

beowolfschaefer (2451564) | more than 2 years ago | (#39435921)

"the theory makes concrete predictions which have been observed to work out, over and over again." That's because we can observe live on our normal macro level. We don't have multiple earths to compare. "Science doesn't work by consensus" Peer review seems a lot like consensus to me.

Ottawa in March (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39435323)

...is quite tolerable this week. It's warmer here than in California and I am glad.

Re:Ottawa in March (1)

MrEricSir (398214) | more than 2 years ago | (#39435453)

As a San Francisco resident, I'm confused by your comparison to California weather. You mean it's not cold and foggy in Ottawa?

Finally... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39435337)

Finally all of those CFC's I've been spraying have paid off. Its too bitter cold in Chicago anyway.

News For Nerds??!! (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39435389)

Localized weather stories are now considered news for nerds??!! What the fuck?
Is Slashdot next going to post when the summer equinox is coming, or when the first snowball in Peoria is happening?

This place is really turning to shit.

Re:News For Nerds??!! (1)

webnut77 (1326189) | more than 2 years ago | (#39435639)

It's a troll story. Cue the hot debate in 3.. 2.. 1..

Wilder, wackier weather to become the norm? (1, Insightful)

haruchai (17472) | more than 2 years ago | (#39435391)

It's becoming more and more clear that we're in for a rough ride - and we're all to blame.

The sad truth is that those who are least responsible will suffer the most.

Re:Wilder, wackier weather to become the norm? (1, Informative)

cpu6502 (1960974) | more than 2 years ago | (#39435913)

Weather has always been variable. In my town a record 5 feet of snow fell in just one storm during the 1950s, which stranded people in their homes for many days (they couldn't open their doors). That record still stands. Vice-versa other records from the 1960s show that 1964,65,66 had unusally warm winters with barely any snow. The weather was just as extreme in the past as the present.

And some of us are Cold when it's meant to be hot (5, Informative)

mr_exit (216086) | more than 2 years ago | (#39435433)

And in the southern Hemisphere, We've had one of the coldest and wettest summers on record in New Zealand.

But you only hear about climate change when people are hot.....

Re:And some of us are Cold when it's meant to be h (4, Funny)

avgjoe62 (558860) | more than 2 years ago | (#39435545)

Sorry. Hot chicks trump cold Kiwis any day of the year.

Re:And some of us are Cold when it's meant to be h (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39435563)

Climate change isn't about winter and summer both getting warmer. The climate changes hourly. It has daily patterns, it has seasonal patterns and it has yearly patterns. Our knowledge of patterns beyond yearly is limited by the available data.

These patterns rely on restoring forces within our environment, energy storages and releases through matter within the globe, and energy gains and losses through our atmosphere. It has been hypothesised that a significant change in any of these mechanisms will cause a change in the mean, and variation, of our climate, which will impact all of those patterns. It has been documented that a significant change is being made through accelerated releasing of energy from matter through burning fossil fuels and modifications to our atmosphere.

To suppose that "climate change" is a sensationalist explanation for warmer variations to seasonal patterns is misguided and misinformed. To suppose the modifications we have caused in these mechanisms cannot result in colder and wetter variations in the climate suggests there have been some theoretical and experimental breakthroughs in atmosphere, chemical and physical science that I have not been made aware of. Please forward me to the relevant literature.

Re:And some of us are Cold when it's meant to be h (1)

chichilalescu (1647065) | more than 2 years ago | (#39435781)

In fact, Europe was extremely cold this winter, and there was a lot of snow (as in meters of snow, something that happens once every 50 years). And last year there was an extremely cold winter in North America.
Exactly like science warns, extreme events are more extreme, and predictability is lost.

Re:And some of us are Cold when it's meant to be h (1)

morian97 (1325925) | more than 2 years ago | (#39435799)

There are summers in New Zealand??? Lived there four years (Nelson "sunshine capital") and weather was horrible year round, kinda Scotland...

groundhog meteorologists (4, Funny)

Eponymous Hero (2090636) | more than 2 years ago | (#39435445)

you can all blame the ring leader of the Weather Underground, Punxsutawney Phil, for spreading propaganda that would deceive you into thinking winter was staying another 6 weeks. it's eco-psycho-terrorism! in our soil!

Re:groundhog meteorologists (1)

MacGyver2210 (1053110) | more than 2 years ago | (#39435851)

I know, we should kidnap Phil and drive into an abandoned quarry taking him with us in a massive fireball! No more conspiracy!

Not everywhere (4, Informative)

Lije Baley (88936) | more than 2 years ago | (#39435459)

It's effing cold in Seattle. Snowing every other day it seems. I want to be warm and dry.

Cue Chicken little...... (0, Flamebait)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 2 years ago | (#39435473)

Sorry but we see this kind of pattern every 10-12 years. in 1995 we had a very unseasonably warm winter followed by a march that was in the 60's and 70's I remember at LEAST 4 times in my 46 years of life having a very mild winter followed by a unseasonably warm later winter early spring.

But That's ok, I've already got a buttload of "ZOMG GLOBAL WARMING!!!" idiots going off around me. Sorry kiddies, this is not global warming, just a freak coincidence of just the right conditions. Maybe if people actually paid attention to their life they would have noticed this stuff.

Oh and dont go off your nuts when it snows in June... Mother nature is a bitch when she teases like this.

Re:Cue Chicken little...... (1)

cwebster (100824) | more than 2 years ago | (#39435779)

The degree to which we've had a warm dry winter and a hot spring is only represented by 2 years in the last 140 or so. While this pattern may be more common, it usually isn't this amplified. If this year plays out like the two analogs we should have a milder may. In any case I'd look for the trough in the Midwest to end up as a cutoff low over the east and bring a little relief.

Rochester and Boston for sure (1)

KingAlanI (1270538) | more than 2 years ago | (#39435475)

I'm from Rochester, NY and I was in Boston last weekend; it's particularly warm in both places.

this is almost surreal

It's around St. Patrick's Day, so the green is fitting
normally Rochester March heat wave means 50
we didn't set our clocks ahead an hour, we set them ahead an entire season

In the words of Monty Python, this is getting silly.

Re:Rochester and Boston for sure (1)

sdnoob (917382) | more than 2 years ago | (#39435743)

it was a little ridiculous. we turned the air conditioner on the week before st patrick's day.... if we wanted days of 80F+ temps in mid-march, we'd still be living in south texas or florida, not the upper midwest. we moved to get away from the heat and get back to having four seasons.. this year, winter was a joke, spring was like a week long, and the snowiest month of the year has had none.. NONE, not even any snowcover leftover from the months before.

Cue the Warmists... (0, Flamebait)

RocketRabbit (830691) | more than 2 years ago | (#39435491)

"The sky is falling! Proof of global warming!"

Here's something to ponder - the past two summers were some of the coldest ever recorded in the Pacific Northwest. The last 10 years have seen a reversal of the global warming trend. We are undeniably in a decade-long chill at this point in time. Even desert areas (not "drought ares") in Australia are getting drenched with torrential rains which is extremely unusual there.

It's time to relax, sit back, flip the lights on, rev that engine, and stop worrying about this boogie-man called AGW. Much better to concentrate our efforts at fighting industrial pollution involving actual poison, not carbon dioxide.

Re:Cue the Warmists... (1, Informative)

the eric conspiracy (20178) | more than 2 years ago | (#39435523)

Cue the deniers.

Fact is this is La Nina in action.

Re:Cue the Warmists... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39435643)

Regardless of all Global Warming bullshit... if you think La Nina affects the Great Lakes region, well, you're just an idiot.

Yea, it's "just a few hot days"... (5, Informative)

Cazekiel (1417893) | more than 2 years ago | (#39435493)

Back in October, I was writing 'HAPPY HALLOWEEN!' in the snow, having a chuckle. I stopped laughing when a storm blew in so fierce, so heavy, that it took out the entire Western MA. area's electricity. We were without power for a week, almost exactly. The snow was already heavy, but the fact that trees still had leaves on their branches added to the weight. Entire limbs--or just entire trees were everywhere. It was a spooky time, and it's only getting spookier. I should NOT be sweltering at work while wearing shorts, which is how it went yesterday. Anyone saying "so what, it's a heatwave" doesn't come from New England. We're used to crazy-assed weather, but this has got us all stumped.

And yet... (0)

KermodeBear (738243) | more than 2 years ago | (#39435511)

And yet last year saw some of the coldest temperatures we've had in a very long time. But I didn't see people screaming OMG GLOBAL FREEZING!!1!!1! back then.

Re:And yet... (2)

Nugoo (1794744) | more than 2 years ago | (#39435597)

Guess you weren't watching Fox [youtube.com] .

Re:And yet... (4, Insightful)

artor3 (1344997) | more than 2 years ago | (#39435645)

And yet last year saw some of the coldest temperatures we've had in a very long time. But I didn't see people screaming OMG GLOBAL FREEZING!!1!!1! back then.

That's because the people who understand global warming are smart enough to know that a single season doesn't mean anything on its own. It's the deniers who, every goddamned winter, come out of the woodwork with their childlike taunts: "If the Earth's getting warmer, then why is it currently cold outside!?"

Isn't it funny that this winter they all seem to understand that one point doesn't make a line? Sadly, I'm sure that by next year they will have forgotten all about this, and will point to the first snowflake as proof that the Earth is unchanged.

Re:And yet... (1, Troll)

LordLucless (582312) | more than 2 years ago | (#39435701)

It's the deniers who, every goddamned winter, come out of the woodwork with their childlike taunts: "If the Earth's getting warmer, then why is it currently cold outside!?"

And the warmists, who every time a cyclone hits, come out crying that it wouldn't have happened, if only you'd let them tax you more for your sinful energy consumption.

Re:And yet... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39435889)

None of the 'warmists', as you call them, do that. It's just the deniers claiming that they do

Re:And yet... (0)

cpu6502 (1960974) | more than 2 years ago | (#39435855)

Not hardly. It's usually the "warmers" and TV reporters who are most vocal:

"This is proof of global warming." Or "the record 3 feets of snow [in 2008] is proof of global warming." Or "Washington DC will definitely get less snow." (Al Gore while promoting his movie). Or "In another ten years, Britain's children may not know what snow is." (said in 2001 by the UK weather bureau chief)

Re:And yet... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39435691)

And yet nothing in the summary mentions or even alludes to global warming, perhaps because some of us are capable of understanding that weather != climate. In fact, unusually cold weather may be part of climate destabilization and global warming. Please read up on the topic if you care to comment on it.

Re:And yet... (3, Insightful)

giorgist (1208992) | more than 2 years ago | (#39435695)

Weather and climate are not the same words.

Think

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Re:And yet... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39435865)

At that time you heard "weather is not climate." Over and over.

Guess that's inappropriate now.

Re:And yet... (4, Informative)

amicusNYCL (1538833) | more than 2 years ago | (#39435893)

And yet last year saw some of the coldest temperatures we've had in a very long time. But I didn't see people screaming OMG GLOBAL FREEZING!!1!!1! back then.

Several years ago, when the changes were starting to get wide attention, people realized that it was extreme weather on both ends and changed the description from "warming" to "climate change". We've had several unusual winters, it's obvious that the phenomenon is not limited to higher temperatures.

And last year I do remember news stories on the unusual winter where people questioned if the global climate change was responsible.

The root of the problem is that global average temperatures are increasing, but since that also contributes to [politicalaffairs.net] unusual [wunderground.com] cold snaps [nytimes.com] then it doesn't help the discussion to call it global warming if every idiot who gets cold uses that as evidence that global warming is not happening. Extreme weather changes on both ends are both symptoms of global warming. You only need to look at a graph of global average temperature over a long period to figure out that it is currently spiking.

Source of all that heat... (1)

Airdorn (1094879) | more than 2 years ago | (#39435515)

I think they also discovered the source of all that heat to be the white-hot star at the center of the Solar System... !

Re:Source of all that heat... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39435683)

I thought for sure you'd say all the politicians in Washington, DC.

Winter? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39435567)

Hardly a transition from winter to summer. It certainly wasn't much of a winter this year (at least in the continental U.S.), as in early January it reached nearly 60 degrees F in Wisconsin.

The fact is that we humans live on very short timescales, and we cannot even begin to comprehend the changes that have occurred in the Earth's climate over millions of years. In the early Eocene there were rainforests at the latitude of northern North America. Antarctica has glaciated, unglaciated, and glaciated again. The Earth's climate has been at times much colder than now, and at times much hotter than now. At some times such as the Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum the climate has changed significantly over short periods of time, perhaps by the release of methane into the atmosphere from clathrates.

There are 7 billion humans on this planet and we have extensively modified its land surface and atmosphere. I'm not sure any of us will live to see changes much more severe than some relatively unusual weather, but I believe that the Earth's climate will be transitioning into a new stable state. Maybe not if we change all our habits right this second, but that's not going to happen. Perhaps it will eventually be like the early Eocene, or maybe not. Psychologically, humans will not change their habits without indisputable proof that their habits are highly detrimental to their well-being. This is very difficult in this case because the climate changes over time spans much longer than a human lifetime. All I can really say is that people should think of the future as much as they can... but it happens to be a nice day outside, you might as well go out and enjoy it while it lasts.

Re:Winter? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39435667)

The fact is that we humans live on very short timescales

Heh, yeah, and they're about to get even shorter.

Well... (1)

ZackZero (1271592) | more than 2 years ago | (#39435671)

... there goes Winter Wrap-Up. Cross that holiday off the list...

I was surprised for a minute (3, Insightful)

jrroche (1937546) | more than 2 years ago | (#39435677)

I was surprised, for a minute, to see all these Slashdotters sarcastically pretending this is proof of global climate change, or forgoing the sarcasm and outright denying it entirely. Then I remembered that, despite Slashdot readers being generally accepting of, and, in many cases, even excited about science, they also tend to be generally libertarian in their politics, which means denying ideas widely held by entire scientific and academic communities if it might lead to more gub'mint.

Original link (1)

RockMFR (1022315) | more than 2 years ago | (#39435735)

The original source of this article, which was copied verbatim, is NASA Earth Observatory [nasa.gov] . Give credit where credit is due.

More strange weather events (3, Informative)

uncadonna (85026) | more than 2 years ago | (#39435741)

If Slashdot covering a weather story isn't a climate-scale outlier, I don't know what is.

Here's another strange fact: on March 18 the low temperature in Rochester MN exceeded [planet3.org] the previous record high for that date.

I'm working on an essay linking this event to anthropogenic climate change ("global warming") which will appear on Planet3.0 [planet3.org] .

(For what it's worth I might as well submit a Slashdot story when it's up. Hose my host - see if I care.)

New Hampshire trails clear? (1)

poppopret (1740742) | more than 2 years ago | (#39435823)

So, does this mean I can go hiking next week? (without causing my death)

How about the paths up Mount Moosilauke and Mount Jefferson? How about the trails up to the ridges of Franconia Notch? Ice all melted? Slush gone yet? What kind of temperatures would I get ON TOP (not in the valley) at those locations?

I'm moderately concerned (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39435859)

That it's march and its already too fucking hot. It's going to be an uncomfortable summer.

Not Summer (2, Interesting)

Culture20 (968837) | more than 2 years ago | (#39435887)

Not summer: spring. 80F is spring weather. Summer weather is 90-103F.

The Heat (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39435907)

Maybe it's caused by this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6j4f8cHBIM

Go ahead, have a seizure
(NSFW)

What about the Record Breaking Spots? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39435909)

What about the record breaking cold days this year in Europe, Alaska, New Zealand, Russia and China?

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