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XBMC V11 Eden Has Been Released

timothy posted more than 2 years ago | from the such-nice-apples-you've-got-there dept.

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New submitter themib writes "After only two release candidates XBMC v11.0 Eden has been released. The latest version contains many updates and new features, including: Addon Rollbacks, Confluence improvements, Dirty region rendering, a new JPEG decoder, movie scraping, better network support, a new upgraded Weather service. This announcement also heralds the new XBMCbuntu Final."

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195 comments

frosty piss V11 chugger has been released (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39463791)

we all know what frosty piss is, could you tell us what XBM (bowel movement?) C is?

Re:frosty piss V11 chugger has been released (1)

smi.james.th (1706780) | more than 2 years ago | (#39463813)

Because, of course, clicking on TFA is far too difficult.

As is googling. Far too hard.

In seriousness though, XBMC is quite popular, how could you be a /. reader and not know what it is? Especially with all the hype around Raspberry Pi at the moment?

Re:frosty piss V11 chugger has been released (4, Insightful)

ThePeices (635180) | more than 2 years ago | (#39464221)

Why do you assume that he didn't read TFA or do a Google search because he found it too difficult?

He did neither of those things because he couldn't be arsed.

Re:frosty piss V11 chugger has been released (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39463819)

A few years ago a couple of guys put together a small company named Google where they store links to a variety of subjects on the Internet. It was built to allow people, much like yourself, to find information on exactly what they're researching within seconds instead of spending long hours searching. You might want to give it a try. I've read it's pretty good.

Re:frosty piss V11 chugger has been released (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39464387)

Google is a BIG company. You are full of whatever shit is called just before it comes out.

Re:frosty piss V11 chugger has been released (1)

viperidaenz (2515578) | more than 2 years ago | (#39464557)

Like all BIG companies, they were started by a small number of people. Usually one or two.

Just installed (3)

ArhcAngel (247594) | more than 2 years ago | (#39463799)

I just installed it on a Windows 7 system and it is smooth as glass. It looks more polished than most commercial offerings I've seen. Kudos to the team and their efforts.

Re:Just installed (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39463821)

Kudos to the team and their efforts.

And kudos to timothy: he's managed to edit a submission without one of his customary fuck-ups.

Huzzahs all round!

Re:Just installed (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39463937)

It's eating up a lot more CPU than 10.1 did, and it's causing stutter in the same 1080p content that v10.1 played with no problem.

XBMC FAIL.

Re:Just installed (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Psychopath (18031) | more than 2 years ago | (#39464083)

It's eating up a lot more CPU than 10.1 did, and it's causing stutter in the same 1080p content that v10.1 played with no problem.

XBMC FAIL.

I'm not having these issues at all. Anonymous Coward FAIL?

Re:Just installed (1)

hairyfeet (841228) | more than 2 years ago | (#39464063)

Question: What advantages do you see over Windows media center in Windows 7? Not having run XBMC since leaving XP in 09 I am curious as to what advantages you find over what is built into Win 7, is it better on resources? does it give you more Internet TV options? How is its hardware acceleration? Because while i can see the advantages clearly for something like the pi, where you are talking about a device that takes less power than your average cable box I just don't see offhand what advantages one could get from XBMC running on top of win 7.

Re:Just installed (5, Informative)

Anonymous Psychopath (18031) | more than 2 years ago | (#39464095)

Question: What advantages do you see over Windows media center in Windows 7? Not having run XBMC since leaving XP in 09 I am curious as to what advantages you find over what is built into Win 7, is it better on resources? does it give you more Internet TV options? How is its hardware acceleration? Because while i can see the advantages clearly for something like the pi, where you are talking about a device that takes less power than your average cable box I just don't see offhand what advantages one could get from XBMC running on top of win 7.

Primarily it's format agnosticism and skin capabilities. 99% of my library is in MKV format, which WMC does not care for, and the Alaska Revisited skin is gorgeous.

It does take advantage of hardware acceleration.

Re:Just installed (5, Informative)

BLKMGK (34057) | more than 2 years ago | (#39464363)

I see under 25% CPU utilization with an ATOM\ION box that draws less than 20watts decoding 1080P and surround sound audio. It easy to control with my phone, an IRDA remote, or a WEB browser. It plays nearly any format and can play audio or video from my iPhone as well as display pictures from it. It also didn't cost me anything to install since Linux is free and so is XBMC. Since I run multiple HTPC this is nice in that it saves me money. It's nice that it's constantly improving too!

Re:Just installed (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39464391)

99% of my library is in MKV format, which WMC does not care for,

I have no problem playing any MKV I download from usenet on my Win7 Media Center. I can't imaging what you're doing wrong.

Re:Just installed (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39464399)

The interface doesn't suck. Normal people do not know how to use windows media craptastic player. It is beyond me how a multi-billion dollar company can truly not see the mess windows media player is.

Re:Just installed (1)

ChatHuant (801522) | more than 2 years ago | (#39464079)

I just installed it on a Windows 7 system

I have a Win7 HTPC connected to my TV, running the built in Windows Media Center. I use it for storing music, movies and photos, recording a few TV shows, serving media to extenders in other rooms, Netflix/Hulu and just a bit of Youtube. Could you please tell me what advantages you find in using XBMC over WMC? Thank you!

Re:Just installed (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39464293)

Customizability

Re:XBMC vs. WMC (3, Informative)

TemplePilot (2035400) | more than 2 years ago | (#39464339)

WMC is 'nice' for OTA HDTV if you have a CM4221 antenna + ATSC tuner combo ( or QAM if you have a cable connection), which I do enjoy. XBMC on the other hand with plugin's and aggreators... gives me online access to so much more than WMC can and greatly enhances usablilty between my pc & HDTV, its the epitome of convergence in technology at this stage of the game.

Now, if I could only get XBMC shoehorned stand alone into a high end "smart" HDTV with wifi to my LAN. It just might make for the ultimate home theatre pc experience I so crave.

Re:Just installed (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39464437)

The freedom to not use windose.
The freedom to play most anything you can throw at it.
The freedom to not have family members bug you on how to actually use it.
The freedom to customize it.
The freedom of knowing there is a very large community available to help.

Could they try to have identified what XBMC is? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39463803)

I seriously have no idea, I could look it up, but I'm not going to bother.

Re:Could they try to have identified what XBMC is? (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39463943)

It took more effort to write that little rant than it would have to just fucking google it.
*slowclap*

Re:Could they try to have identified what XBMC is? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39464031)

Yes, it also takes less effort to hand somebody a fish than it does to teach them how to fish, but I keep hoping somebody will read the post and learn that their submissions SHOULD include such useful information.

One day, perhaps, it'll get through to people.

But it certainly won't if silence is the answer.

Re:Could they try to have identified what XBMC is? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39464201)

When I go to a restaurant, I expect the fish to be handed to me.

Re:Could they try to have identified what XBMC is? (1)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 2 years ago | (#39463955)

Its a media player.

XB-emmma Wha? (-1, Troll)

dmomo (256005) | more than 2 years ago | (#39463815)

That's great. Next time, tell us briefly in the summary what it is and why we should care. Honestly not trying to Troll. It would be nice to know if clicking through and reading more would be a waste of my time or not, though.

Re:XB-emmma Wha? (4, Informative)

icebraining (1313345) | more than 2 years ago | (#39463893)

"XBMC site:slashdot.org" returns 6000 results, so they probably assume /. readers already know what it is.

In any case,

XBMC Media Center (formerly Xbox Media Center) is a free and open source cross-platform digital media hub and HTPC (Home theater PC) software with a 10-foot user interface designed to be a media player for the living-room TV using only a remote control as the input device. Its graphical user interface (GUI) allows the user to easily browse and view videos, photos, podcasts, and music from a harddrive, optical disc, local network, and the internet using only a few buttons.

(From Wikipedia)

Re:XB-emmma Wha? (0)

fotoguzzi (230256) | more than 2 years ago | (#39464203)

A 10-foot user interface? Really?

Re:XB-emmma Wha? (4, Informative)

game kid (805301) | more than 2 years ago | (#39464279)

Yup, that's a technical term [wikipedia.org] ! You definitely wouldn't want the usual 2-foot computer UI when you're on your couch fairly far from your screen. Heck, I have my occasional issues with it when I'm not so far...

Re:XB-emmma Wha? (1)

TemplePilot (2035400) | more than 2 years ago | (#39464365)

Yes Sir, Ten Foot Interface! That is if you have the space & range and a nifty projector to throw it up onto your wall. I'd have suggested the R2-D2 Projector from 2007, but haven't seen them around lately.

Re:XB-emmma Wha? (1)

Mr Z (6791) | more than 2 years ago | (#39463895)

Ok, it's not just me then. I was wondering if I had accidentally landed on a foreign version of the site that was in another language.

Re:XB-emmma Wha? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39463923)

That's great. Next time, tell us briefly in the summary what it is and why we should care. Honestly not trying to Troll. It would be nice to know if clicking through and reading more would be a waste of my time or not, though.

FYI
"XBMC is an award-winning free and open source (GPL) software media player and entertainment hub for digital media. XBMC is available for Linux, OSX, and Windows. Created in 2003 by a group of like minded programmers, XBMC is a non-profit project run and developed by volunteers located around the world. More than 50 software developers have contributed to XBMC, and 100-plus translators have worked to expand its reach, making it available in more than 30 languages."

Essentially it will run on appliance devices as a media server that is remote capable and can be network controlled or can be used as a server. It is fully dlna capable in both directions. Essentially it is a opensource equivalent to Media Room if you want to use it in house as a hub. You can create AVs and network broadcast it with it, or you can just puddle around and do whatever you want with it because it is opensource.

iOS but no Android (3, Interesting)

manekineko2 (1052430) | more than 2 years ago | (#39463823)

I find it bizarre that iOS has a version of XBMC when it can only be run on jailbroken devices.

Meanwhile, Android devices, which actually compromise the majority of the market these days, could run XBMC out of the box with no modifications, and there seems to be zero interest in creating a version for Android. It would even be allowed on the official Android market.

Still, considering the heritage of the project, maybe this all makes sense....

Re:iOS but no Android (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39463889)

The only reason there's an iOS version is because of Apple TV.

Re:iOS but no Android (1)

icebraining (1313345) | more than 2 years ago | (#39463899)

s/compromise/comprise/

Re:iOS but no Android (1)

tapspace (2368622) | more than 2 years ago | (#39463915)

When there is a nice sub $100 android set top box that'll push 1080p, then I think you can expect an android version.

Re:iOS but no Android (1)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | more than 2 years ago | (#39464099)

Your Pacific rim drop-shipper of choice has a fair number of offerings (these ones [dealextreme.com] are reasonably representative); from ~$70 to ~$170 depending on the phase of the moon, number of ports and media readers, and chipset.

Many, if not all, allegedly support at least some sort of '1080p' decode, though exactly what hides in the details may or may not be a pleasant surprise.

To the best of my knowledge, though, development interest in these remains somewhat mired in their variety. It is highly unlikely that the firmware developers on those things spent any time or effort actively hindering 3rd party developers or replacement firmwares; but it isn't a whole lot more likely that they wasted a whole lot of time on 'quality' or 'compatibility' either. Apple, by contrast, actively hates you; but they don't have 30-odd different aTV variants, each broken in a different way.

It is almost certainly the case that there would be some good candidates, if somebody could pick through them and then establish a reliable supply of purchasable units guaranteed to be the same hardware, rather than a totally different board in the same case(purchasers of wireless cards and routers will be familiar with the fact that model numbers are merely suggestions...); but that is at the level of forum anecdote at present...

Re:iOS but no Android (1)

stms (1132653) | more than 2 years ago | (#39463919)

XMBC is developed for ios because of appletv. I've tried for my iPhone and it sucks (mainly becuase the interface isn't made for a phone). There are ports of mplayer for android use one of those its practically the same thing.

Re:iOS but no Android (1)

Gaygirlie (1657131) | more than 2 years ago | (#39463967)

There are ports of mplayer for android use one of those its practically the same thing.

Mplayer is just a simple player, XBMC is a lot more than that. The two are definitely not "the same thing."

Re:iOS but no Android (1)

stms (1132653) | more than 2 years ago | (#39463999)

I know what they are. My point was that the main decoder for XMBC is mplayer. So a good mplayer front-end should be just as good as XBMC for playback and superior because it has an interface for a phone.

Re:iOS but no Android (3, Informative)

crash123 (2523388) | more than 2 years ago | (#39464073)

mplayer is not the 'main decoder' for XBMC. XBMC uses its own media player called dvdplayer and ffmpeg.

Re:iOS but no Android (1)

stms (1132653) | more than 2 years ago | (#39464239)

Really? I swear I remeber reading that XMBC used Mplayer for playback. Still there are probably players that use ffmpeg on android (when VLC is finished there will be one for sure).

Re:iOS but no Android (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39464169)

You do realize you can just enable the web front end, which has smartphone specific interfaces that can be accessed via a touch phone's web browser?

OS-X but no *BSD, either?!? (1)

storkus (179708) | more than 2 years ago | (#39464039)

Did the XBMC guys drop a bunch of platforms?

Also just noticed that their competitor www.mythtv.org is about to have a release early next month as well.

Re:OS-X but no *BSD, either?!? (2)

crash123 (2523388) | more than 2 years ago | (#39464081)

No a developer called Fneufneu is still working on it. The pull request wasn't finished/merged in time for Eden. https://github.com/xbmc/xbmc/pull/37 [github.com]

Re:OS-X but no *BSD, either?!? (2)

BLKMGK (34057) | more than 2 years ago | (#39464375)

Not sure I'd call Myth a competitor, more like they work together. considering what a tin plated bitch Myth has been to install in the past and how much more easily XBMC is installed I'll be interested to see what the Myth guys come up with for this release. the only PITA with XBMC is getting the HDMI audio working sometimes but that's ALSA and Pulse screwing with things...

OpenElec (2)

okle69 (258936) | more than 2 years ago | (#39463851)

Can't wait til the OpenElec final is released

XBMC is (1)

wisnoskij (1206448) | more than 2 years ago | (#39463857)

Formerly a program/OS for the original Xbox and called XBox Media Center. They have since stopped supporting the xbox but have ported it to many OSes. I imagine it is used for computer media center for a TV setup as the interface is far to clunky for regular computer use.

It was/is (see xbmc4xbox) great on the Xbox, but I really don't see the appeal of installing it on a computer.

Re:XBMC is (2)

okle69 (258936) | more than 2 years ago | (#39463891)

The appeal is having a dedicated low power, small box to just push media to your home theatre that can be controlled via remote, instead of moving around windows between displays and having to worry about your other activities interfering with your movie watching, etc.

Re:XBMC is (1)

Lifyre (960576) | more than 2 years ago | (#39464021)

Can it be installed on a Pi?

Re:XBMC is (1)

Deltaspectre (796409) | more than 2 years ago | (#39464055)

Yes!

Re:XBMC is (1)

Lifyre (960576) | more than 2 years ago | (#39464175)

Sweet! Link cause everything I've seen said no Arm beyond iOS..

Re:XBMC is (0)

pr0nbot (313417) | more than 2 years ago | (#39464227)

Here you go: http://bit.ly/GNCkXg [bit.ly]

Re:XBMC is (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39463989)

You don't install it on a regular use computer, but on a HTPC system or such. XMBC is an outstanding system for HTPC use, and makes library management a breeze. So, it's definitely good for computers, but not for your primary desktop.

As XBMC has been ported to practically everything, it's pretty easy to get running on any random hardware, making building a HTPC easier and cheaper than ever. Even runs on a $35 Raspberry Pi!

Re:XBMC is (1)

Gaygirlie (1657131) | more than 2 years ago | (#39464003)

It was/is (see xbmc4xbox) great on the Xbox, but I really don't see the appeal of installing it on a computer.

I do not really know what you mean with "a computer" here; I suppose you're trying to say "a device with a smaller screen."

If that is what you meant then yes, XBMC's UI is quite clunky. But it still does serve a purpose because it's not just a media player, it is a media collection manager; the larger the collection of various movies, TV and anime series and whatnot you have the more you'll start to appreciate how easy it makes it to browse it all. It even handles downloading of subtitles for the current title from the Internet, something I haven't seen any media player do.

If on the other hand you really meant computer as in a PC, a non-console - device: words "HTPC" and "multi-screen setup" should provide more than enough counter-argument. For example my desktop PC has a 24" screen as the main display and I can game, browse the web and all that on it, while I have XBMC running on my 42" 3D-TV over HDMI at the same time. Coupled with the XBMC Remote for Android it really is quite a damn nice setup.

Never got the "point" of XBMC (1)

pla (258480) | more than 2 years ago | (#39463865)

I've tried a few versions of XBMC (and have 11 downloading in the background, just to take a look), and I never really understood the big deal about it.

With the original XBox, okay, cool, you had a fairly high-functionality networked media player running on a $99 console gaming system. Neat.

But on a modern PC? Running a variety of programs to handle each individual media type in a manner I prefer for them doesn't present any sort of burden to me or to the system. I have no real reason to stay within the context of a single program that can do-it-all - I just make a new desktop shortcut to my preferred handler of format-X, and bam, I have it always instantly available to me.

So tell me, Slashdot - What have I missed here that makes XBMC so impressive?

Re:Never got the "point" of XBMC (5, Insightful)

Deltaspectre (796409) | more than 2 years ago | (#39463897)

This is for the people who want a 10 foot interface on their little nettop hooked up to the TV.

Re:Never got the "point" of XBMC (1)

traycerb (728174) | more than 2 years ago | (#39464109)

Is XBMC any good for streaming, e.g. from Hulu, Netflix, etc and live TV/DVR? I looked into XBMC once, and it seemed to be primarily for stored media, and not TV or internet streaming. For example, there wasn't an official browser plugin to go to the various sites I use. Has this changed, or are there other options for this?

Re:Never got the "point" of XBMC (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39464189)

They have a couple plugins for stuff like Al Jazeera news and Youtube. But no Amazon, Netflix, etc. I think it comes down to an issue with DRM and the fact XBMC is open-source. They do have a cool remote-control app for Android that lets you share a youtube video you are watching on your phone or tablet directly to the tv.

Re:Never got the "point" of XBMC (1)

TheCycoONE (913189) | more than 2 years ago | (#39464209)

It doesn't do TV yet though it is planned and being worked on (forever). For TV you're probably better off with mythtv.

I haven't tried 11.0 yet, but I've been using 10 since it came out. Streaming for various sites is supported through 3rd party addons, so quality varies by addon. I don't watch Hulu or Netflix, but I have one for watching Canadian TV shows and another for Ted Talks that work quite nicely. Otoh, I haven't had good luck with the Youtube or Yahoo Music addons.

Re:Never got the "point" of XBMC (1)

BLKMGK (34057) | more than 2 years ago | (#39464395)

In order to do Netflix and the rest you can stream via PlayOn running on a desktop computer - this will give you an amazing array of choices. Likewise XBMC supports live TV from an HDHomerun but frankly Myth or an STB might be better for that IMO.

XBMC's strongpoint is being able to beautifully a stored library of movies, TV shows, Music, and pictures. I have a bazillion movies and TV shows stored on servers and any of my TVs can display them via small network attached XBMC front-ends. I've yet to see anything come close!

Re:Never got the "point" of XBMC (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39464113)

Umm, I always used the XBMC for original XBOX with the DVD remote.

Re:Never got the "point" of XBMC (1)

Deltaspectre (796409) | more than 2 years ago | (#39464229)

Well, original Xbox isn't supported anymore.

Re:Never got the "point" of XBMC (1)

acariquara (753971) | more than 2 years ago | (#39463901)

XBMC on an Apple TV. Still a $99 system.

Re:Never got the "point" of XBMC (5, Informative)

Laebshade (643478) | more than 2 years ago | (#39463905)

XBMC is meant for media centers. If you're not using it on a PC you're using as a media center, then XBMC is likely not for you. It is called "XBMC Media Center" for a reason.

Re:Never got the "point" of XBMC (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39464033)

I am going to go get money from the ATM machine.

Re:Never got the "point" of XBMC (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39464155)

I am going to go get money from the ATM machine.

I'm going to get my money from the Asynchronous Transfer ATM Mode machine.

Re:Never got the "point" of XBMC (0)

Osty (16825) | more than 2 years ago | (#39464165)

It is called "XBMC Media Center" for a reason

This may be pedantic, but it's not called "XBMC Media Center". It's called "XBMC", originally from "Xbox Media Center". "Media Center" is part of the abbreviation. Calling it "XBMC Media Center" is akin to calling an ATM an "ATM machine" or a PIN a "PIN number". "Media Center", "machine", and "number" are all part of the preceding abbreviations, respectively.

Re:Never got the "point" of XBMC (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39464361)

It is pedantic, and also stupid.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAS_syndrome#Reasons_for_use

Re:Never got the "point" of XBMC (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39464435)

It is pedantic, and also stupid.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAS_syndrome#Reasons_for_use

I can't believe you posted this at 5:00AM in the morning!!

Re:Never got the "point" of XBMC (4, Informative)

Scyber (539694) | more than 2 years ago | (#39464381)

Well the Eden logo in TFA refers to it as XBMC Media Center. In addition the logo used on wiki.xbmc.org (similar to the eden logo) also refers to it as xbmc media center. So you can keep "correcting" people if you want, but if the official site uses XBMC Media Center it is obviously an acceptable name for the product.

Re:Never got the "point" of XBMC (2)

BLKMGK (34057) | more than 2 years ago | (#39464405)

Actually no it's called XBMC Media Center. I suggest you goto XBMC.org and examine the logo for the Eden release which clearly says so....

Re:Never got the "point" of XBMC (1)

Osty (16825) | more than 2 years ago | (#39464431)

Well, that's interesting. Only the Eden logo has the "media center" subtitle. Everything else (the site header logo, the about page, every other single reference to "XBMC" on the web site) refers strictly to "XBMC" and not "XBMC Media Center". So I'll stick with the more consistent representation of the name as "XBMC" with the "Media Center" as part of the abbreviation.

Re:Never got the "point" of XBMC (1)

phoenix_rizzen (256998) | more than 2 years ago | (#39464499)

XBMC v10 supports the Xbox. Hence, that release is "Xbox Media Centre" (aka XBMC).

XBMC v11 does not supprt the Xbox, and is thus called "XBMC Media Centre".

Re:Never got the "point" of XBMC (1)

mab (17941) | more than 2 years ago | (#39464425)

XBMC is not an acronym

Re:Never got the "point" of XBMC (1)

Osty (16825) | more than 2 years ago | (#39464443)

As long as I'm being pedantic, that is correct. It's an abbreviation. An acronym is an abbreviation that intentionally forms a word. So unless you pronounce XBMC as "ex-buh-muck" and not "ex bee em see", it's only an abbreviation.

And it certainly is an abbreviation, as the original project was called "Xbox Media Center". That the abbreviation is now the name doesn't make it not an abbreviation (see KFC, IBM, etc).

Re:Never got the "point" of XBMC (1)

phoenix_rizzen (256998) | more than 2 years ago | (#39464487)

It stopped being "Xbox Media Centre" back in 2011 when they stopped supporting the Xbox.

It's now "XBMC Media Centre", as it runs on various OSes and devices ... with the exception of the original Xbox.

Re:Never got the "point" of XBMC (1)

thereitis (2355426) | more than 2 years ago | (#39464509)

That should be on the xbmc front page. I discovered as much after installing all the build dependencies and compiling/installing from source. What I really want is something focused on streaming over my wireless network. No gui front-end necessary. Something that can give me a quick selection of _legal_ shows I can download and watch.

Re:Never got the "point" of XBMC (1)

HogGeek (456673) | more than 2 years ago | (#39463909)

Now you can get it running on a $99 dollar media player (Apple TV 2, and 3 (when it gets jailbroken))

Re:Never got the "point" of XBMC (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39463975)

It's a front end for a htpc device, same as windows media center, or a mythtv front end. That's the appeal of it, no mystery.

It's not like a bunch of people are sticking it on their PCs in order to replace VLC or Mplayer.

Re:Never got the "point" of XBMC (3, Informative)

niftydude (1745144) | more than 2 years ago | (#39463997)

But on a modern PC? Running a variety of programs to handle each individual media type in a manner I prefer for them doesn't present any sort of burden to me or to the system. I have no real reason to stay within the context of a single program that can do-it-all - I just make a new desktop shortcut to my preferred handler of format-X, and bam, I have it always instantly available to me.

XBMC is about the interface. XBMC is all-in-one, and it is nice and remote control friendly. Your solution with desktop shortcuts requires you to have a mouse and a keyboard, and so that solution is a burden to you, even if it isn't a burden to the system.

Not only does XBMC handler MCE remotes correctly out of the box, with the libCEC library it can also handle signals from the remote controls of most television remotes from the libCEC signal which is sent over one of the wires on the HDMI interface. It makes for a much nicer browsing and viewing experience when your pc is connected to a large screen on the other side of your room.

Re:Never got the "point" of XBMC (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39464097)

Its so impressive because non idiots can use it as a MEDIA CENTER. Its not meant to be a media PLAYER on your PC whilst you sit in front of it. Its meant to be a MEDIA CENTER connected to your TV. So you can watch all your media on your television. On a TV.

GET IT? Of course not. Oh well.

Re:Never got the "point" of XBMC (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Psychopath (18031) | more than 2 years ago | (#39464133)

I've tried a few versions of XBMC (and have 11 downloading in the background, just to take a look), and I never really understood the big deal about it.

With the original XBox, okay, cool, you had a fairly high-functionality networked media player running on a $99 console gaming system. Neat.

But on a modern PC? Running a variety of programs to handle each individual media type in a manner I prefer for them doesn't present any sort of burden to me or to the system. I have no real reason to stay within the context of a single program that can do-it-all - I just make a new desktop shortcut to my preferred handler of format-X, and bam, I have it always instantly available to me.

So tell me, Slashdot - What have I missed here that makes XBMC so impressive?

You're missing a wife. Because mine (despite having a masters in engineering and a CCIE) is completely unwilling to use a PC connected to our home theater. She wants to access media the same way she uses a DVR, and with the same remote. XBMC provides that experience. Plus it works with Airplay.

Re:Never got the "point" of XBMC (3, Informative)

wanzeo (1800058) | more than 2 years ago | (#39464461)

Yup. XBMC can be more for the people you live with than it for yourself. For instance, there are iphone and android apps that work as a remote through the wifi. Not only is this practical because you skip the tedious IR remotes, but people absolutely LOVE the idea of using their phone as a remote. I even bought a $50 Samsung Repp (low end android phone, no contract) that just sits on the coffee table as an XBMC remote.

A nice added bonus is that it provides a way to retire old desktops without throwing them away or having to buy specialized AV gear. And it has even been demonstrated to run on the Raspberry Pi! In fact, now that I mention it, I REALLY LOVE XBMC!

Re:Never got the "point" of XBMC (2)

nahpets77 (866127) | more than 2 years ago | (#39464163)

UPnP; I use it mainly to connect to my mediatomb server. It works really well.

Re:Never got the "point" of XBMC (1)

sehryan (412731) | more than 2 years ago | (#39464185)

I know this will sound snide, but you obviously do not have a wife, or if you do, she is a geek like you.

While your setup doesn't present any problem for you or probably me, for any non-technical folks in the household that want to use the system, remembering to use this at these points but not for this other thing, then you have to do X+Y+Z...it is impossible for them to remember all the details.

XBMC - and all the other 10ft interfaces - theoretically solve this problem. One interface to bind them all, if you pardon the paraphrase.

Of course, my experience is that none of them can do 100% of the things I and my wife would like them to do, so we are still using a fractured system, much to her dislike (and she lets me know about it every time she has trouble). I am hoping that Eden solves this.

Re:Never got the "point" of XBMC (1)

TemplePilot (2035400) | more than 2 years ago | (#39464251)

With just the right plugin's [xbmc.org] you can be watching streaming tv shows on demand, or movies by way of an aggreator. Check out Navi-X [navi-x.org] for instance. Its a great way to catch up on Season 1 Game of Thrones. You can even download them for later viewing. With XBMC you just need to spend time exploring its capabilities and the forums to learn to make it your all in one Media Experience, that truly does everything. I run mine off one of the two 22" external monitors attatched to my laptop, with plans to drop in a 42" HDTV into the works soon where I'll then move XBMC for an actual enhanced Home Theatre PC setup. Been loving it so far.

Re:Never got the "point" of XBMC (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39464287)

It's funny, I was just on XBMC's site a couple days ago, and I really couldn't tell what they had made. Ultimately, I assumed it was just a media-centric file manager with an interface suited to remote controls. I didn't grab it, because one click in Thunar fires the movie up fullscreen with mplayer, and I can't tell if XBMC is going to screw with that functionality, or just do its own thing (whatever that is).
It sure looks pretty - I'd rather have that, than a one-colour background and one type of icon.

From the "About" section of the XBMC website : "It is difficult to put into words all that XBMC can do..."

Re:Never got the "point" of XBMC (1)

phoenix_rizzen (256998) | more than 2 years ago | (#39464475)

Salvage parts from old PCs, from the AthlonXP / Athlon64 era, including an ancient ATi RADEON 9800, 2 GB of RAM, and a component video cable. Stick it into a smaller-ish desktop case. Connect it to your TV. Configure it to auto-login to Windows (or Linux), map a couple of network shares to your main computer, start XBMC, and give you a nice 10' display to your video library (sitting on the other computer).

Voila! You have the equivalent of an AppleTV, for hardly any dollars (since you have all the spare parts, or they can be had for under $15 each), that can play 720p x264 video files (should be able to handle 1080p, but don't have access to an HDTV to test it with).

Works beautifully. All controlled from a wireless mouse, while sitting on the couch. Could hook it up to a proper remote, but that seems like work to me. ;) Especially since this setup is easy enough for the wife to use. :D

When will they rename (0)

atari2600a (1892574) | more than 2 years ago | (#39463917)

It's been years since the XBOX Media Center supported Xbox.

Re:When will they rename (3, Informative)

Deltaspectre (796409) | more than 2 years ago | (#39463927)

I seem to remember when they gave up support on xbox, the official name was changed to just XBMC. So it's not an acronym anymore.

Re:When will they rename (1)

atari2600a (1892574) | more than 2 years ago | (#39464373)

THat doesn't change the fact that XMBC Media Center sounds retarded. I mean, with GNU you get a recursive acronym, with XKCD you get a blatantly random sequence of characters, but XMBC is like the dead fetus hanging off of a child, & to make shit weirder they include half of the acronym AFTER the acronym!

Re:When will they rename (1)

Deltaspectre (796409) | more than 2 years ago | (#39464445)

Does XBMC sound better to you?

Original Xbox (1)

gearloos (816828) | more than 2 years ago | (#39464129)

But does it still run on my original Xbox 1 ? Just curious in these days of programmers trying to jam every new feature they can into an already decent product making it essentially bloatware.

"Dirty region rendering" (1)

pr0nbot (313417) | more than 2 years ago | (#39464195)

Does "dirty region rendering" de-pixellate Japanese porn or something?

Re:"Dirty region rendering" (5, Informative)

Spodi (2259976) | more than 2 years ago | (#39464323)

Dirty region rendering is where you only redraw areas that need to be updated instead of drawing the whole screen every frame. It was a lot more common in the older days, and can still be useful for low-power, low-performance devices to keep a larger screen up-to-date. This is precisely why XBMC is implementing it - to reduce overhead of a mostly-idle screen (lower power usage when not viewing media). And I am very happy to see that - too much software doesn't care how much demand it puts on the system as long as it looks good. There is so much being put into trying to make hardware more energy efficient, but an even easier low-hanging fruit is the software.

"4% of the internet!" (1)

It'sVersusItsGuy (599536) | more than 2 years ago | (#39464289)

XBMC had especially superb value when the Icefilms / MegaUpload plugin was working. That was a great period in history. Now it's not so exciting on desktops, but it does make a good interface for a dedicated media center.

Trakt.com support (1)

Jonah Hex (651948) | more than 2 years ago | (#39464303)

If you use Trakt to keep track of your shows, make sure to get the development version here [github.com] until it gets released to the production channel. If you don't use Trakt... you don't know what your missing! - HEX

Re:Trakt.tv support (1)

Jonah Hex (651948) | more than 2 years ago | (#39464319)

Damn it, trakt.tv [trakt.tv] not .com - HEX

Re:Trakt.com support (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39464347)

Honestly, i dont get it. What exactly is the purpose of this Trakt? The website absolutely does not help.

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