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Murdoch Faces Allegations of Sabotage

Unknown Lamer posted about 2 years ago | from the cloak-and-dagger dept.

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Presto Vivace writes "Neil Chenoweth, of the Australian Financial Review, reports that the BBC program Panorama is making new allegations against News Corp of serious misconduct. This time it involves the NDS division of News Corp, which makes conditional access cards for pay TV. It seems that NDS also ran a sabotage operation, hiring pirates to crack the cards of rival companies and posting the code on The House of Ill Compute (thoic.com), a web site hosted by NDS. 'ITV Digital collapsed in March 2002 with losses of more than £1 billion, overwhelmed by mass piracy, as well as technical restrictions and expensive sports contracts. Its collapse left Murdoch-controlled BSkyB the dominant pay TV provider in the UK.' Chenoweth reports that James Murdoch has been an advocate for tougher penalties for pirates, 'These are property rights, these are basic property rights,' he said. 'There is no difference from going into a store and stealing a packet of Pringles or a handbag, and stealing something online. Right?'"

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Rupert Murdoch has no scruples. (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39481363)

This guy is basically like Mr. Burns on the Simpsons. What a horrible excuse for a person.

Re:Rupert Murdoch has no scruples. (5, Funny)

philip.paradis (2580427) | about 2 years ago | (#39481381)

Mr. Burns is funny, which has value. This is not funny.

Re:Rupert Murdoch has no scruples. (3, Insightful)

jhoegl (638955) | about 2 years ago | (#39481467)

Yeah, but do you really think this is the only business that does this kind of thing?
Hint... no... no you shouldnt think that.

Re:Rupert Murdoch has no scruples. (2)

philip.paradis (2580427) | about 2 years ago | (#39481631)

I'm absolutely certain that this is not the only business that does this kind of thing, which makes it even less funny. Hint: over the years I've known and worked with people on both sides of the pen testing "game." In other words, people with hats of many colors.

Re:Rupert Murdoch has no scruples. (5, Funny)

dintech (998802) | about 2 years ago | (#39482269)

Well, it's all fucking unraveling for Murdoch. It couldn't happen to a nicer person. Schadenfreudegasm.

Re:Rupert Murdoch has no scruples. (5, Insightful)

TWX (665546) | about 2 years ago | (#39481719)

Yeah, but do you really think this is the only business that does this kind of thing?

It may not be the only business that does this kind of thing, but it certainly seems to be the most visibly blatant at the moment, and that's telling for an organization that controls such a large amount of the media in the areas its malfeasance is being reported in.

Seeking to crack opponents' tech, not a surprise.

Hosting a site or forum dedicated to the tech, including security and the like, meh.

Seeking to create ever-stronger penalties for violations of security, expected.

Using corporate resources to crack a competitor's technology and intentionally posting the technical information needed to allow others to also crack said technology, while advocating for laws that should theoretically result in essentially a corporate death penalty- that's a surprise.

Corporations are chartered by the government. Simple solution, revoke their charters when the violations stack on like we've seen with News Corp. Force the assets into auction, require revenues to pay legal damages and then distribute what remains proportionally to those stockholders that weren't also employed in the company and engaging in the wanton illegal activity or directly managing those who were.

If corporations faced their charters' revocation, and if egregious offenders actually saw this happen from time to time with dramatic losses to stockholders, maybe stockholders and corporate officers would reduce the amount of corruption in their ranks.

Re:Rupert Murdoch has no scruples. (3)

lexsird (1208192) | about 2 years ago | (#39482001)

Great solution, mine was not so eloquent. It was shoot them all in the fucking head and be done with it. I think your solution is far better, it hurts them deep in the pockets and across the range of investors, and sets an example for other corporations and their investors. Mine isn't a good long term solution, it doesn't set up for a long standing accountability, they could avoid getting shot. Whereas using the law to strip them of their ill gotten gains and inflict them with punitive damages can be sustained as long as we have vigilant people who have learned from this era of corporate criminal corruption.

Re:Rupert Murdoch has no scruples. (4, Interesting)

bfandreas (603438) | about 2 years ago | (#39482541)

This is not as far away as you might think.

I'm heavily involved with a couple of huge European chemical companies and they found out that sustainability is the only thing that will keep them afloat for another century. They test if their reps are corrupt, if ethical guidelines are followed, that they don't leave a mess, how their employees fare worldwide, if they eed to get involved in education and how far away they are from their own goals. Which still is quite a bit. But still.

The frequent corruption scandals German industry faced and a few other desasters have caused a serious shift in what they think is needed. Stockholders don't quite get it but they are still doing fine.

Now I reckon this is also the case in other companies(I only consult those) so this makes Muroch Corp look like a bit of a dinosaur. You will not be able to steal, cheat, lie and sleaze your way to the top and can expect to end up with a slap on the wrist. Quite a few execs of Murdoch Corp are now facing charges, some are in jail. Also Murdoch had politics by the colloar for quite a while and now that public opinion swings the other side you can expect something quite drastic to happen in GB.

There's an old Fry&Laurie sketch on Murdoch, that's how long his sleaze has been public knowledge.

SCHADENFREUDEGASM indeed(thanks, dintech).

Re:Rupert Murdoch has no scruples. (2)

dkf (304284) | about 2 years ago | (#39482337)

Yeah, but do you really think this is the only business that does this kind of thing?

Doesn't make it right. Doesn't make it legal. Doesn't make it ethical. Doesn't mean we should let them get away with it. Time to get our punishing boots on.

Re:Rupert Murdoch has no scruples. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39482343)

Isn't that a bit of a to toque?

No, probably some other businesses do that too. But it's still illegal, and contempt should be rightfully directed at them if and when they are caught.

Re:Rupert Murdoch has no scruples. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39482401)

oh well, thats ok then.
lets let them all get away with it

Re:Rupert Murdoch has no scruples. (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39481539)

Call me a cynic, but when a wealthy sonofabitch who we all know corrupts the politics of multiple countries and plays dirty is caught at doing something like this, I think it's time for a good chuckle. My only hope is that if he ever really goes down, he'll take a few politicians down with him. He's enough of a scumbag to do it if he ever really loses his sway.

Re:Rupert Murdoch has no scruples. (0)

SnarfQuest (469614) | about 2 years ago | (#39481715)

My only hope is that if he ever really goes down, he'll take a few politicians down with him.

You're not supposed to badmouth the democrates here on slashdot. They'll wipe out all of your karma points.

Re:Rupert Murdoch has no scruples. (2)

FoolishOwl (1698506) | about 2 years ago | (#39481881)

You do realize that Rupert Murdoch controls Fox News, right?

Re:Rupert Murdoch has no scruples. (3, Insightful)

ravenshrike (808508) | about 2 years ago | (#39481915)

Murdoch's only god is money. He runs Fox News cause it's a giant market no one else was exploiting.

Re:Rupert Murdoch has no scruples. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39481933)

You mean news for stupid impressionable Americans :D

Re:Rupert Murdoch has no scruples. (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39482049)

I always find comments like this funny. Because really only the American people are impressionable and stupid. No one in the rest of the world could possibly be unintelligent right?

Don't get me wrong, I can't stand Faux News. But I've known many brilliant people who are just wrong. To go around calling people who don't agree with you stupid isn't helping anything.

Re:Rupert Murdoch has no scruples. (3, Insightful)

dbIII (701233) | about 2 years ago | (#39482145)

That's just where the biggest English speaking market in the world is, so yes, by sheer weight of numbers they are. You could say "more Americans are x" where x could be just about anything, so don't take it personally.

Re:Rupert Murdoch has no scruples. (1)

Chrisq (894406) | about 2 years ago | (#39482277)

I always find comments like this funny. Because really only the American people are impressionable and stupid. No one in the rest of the world could possibly be unintelligent right?

You know I think you have just convinced me.

Re:Rupert Murdoch has no scruples. (3, Insightful)

lexsird (1208192) | about 2 years ago | (#39482051)

Let's call it what is is. It's not stupidity, really. It's the results of nationalist propaganda, corporate and capitalist propaganda, a completely shitty education system that undermines the very principles of education, Christianity selling out to politicians, AND jackass propaganda machines like Faux News. Of course, you have ignorance, prejudices, racism, sexism, bigotry and delusions of grandeur, but just calling it "stupid" doesn't do it justice.

Hmm..looking at that, perhaps you have a point. It could easily be summed up to we have a lot of fucking stupid people. But what can you do?

Re:Rupert Murdoch has no scruples. (5, Funny)

aynoknman (1071612) | about 2 years ago | (#39482259)

Rupert Murdoch does not control Fox News. Fox News is controlled only by the sincerest desire to provide fair, balanced, truthful reporting. How could you possibly believe otherwise?

Re:Rupert Murdoch has no scruples. (1)

bfandreas (603438) | about 2 years ago | (#39482557)

Rupert Murdoch does not control Fox News. Fox News is controlled only by the sincerest desire to provide fair, balanced, truthful reporting. How could you possibly believe otherwise?

'tis true! Santa told me himself a couple of months ago.

Funny, I always thought he came from the North Pole not Australia. What's next? The Easter Bunny not being Catholic?

Re:Rupert Murdoch has no scruples. (1)

guises (2423402) | about 2 years ago | (#39481957)

My only hope is that if he ever really goes down, he'll take a few politicians down with him. He's enough of a scumbag to do it if he ever really loses his sway.

Which is, of course, why it's never going to happen.

Re:Rupert Murdoch has no scruples. (4, Interesting)

Xest (935314) | about 2 years ago | (#39482195)

Really? Did you not see Sunday's headlines in the UK?

A Murdoch publication published evidence of the Conservative party's deputy treasurer admitting you could buy access to the prime minister and influence policy for a £250,000 party donation.

Nice to see these things exposed, but the timing and target weren't exactly coincidence. Murdoch knows he's on a downwar spiral in the UK and is already trying to take the PM with him.

I'm not convinced Murdoch will get away with it this time, there's too much public anger and opposition pressure. Now that some semi-independent authorities in the police, judiciary, and oversight committees have become involved it's arguably even past the point it can be sweeped under the carpet.

Re:Rupert Murdoch has no scruples. (5, Insightful)

Custard Horse (1527495) | about 2 years ago | (#39482265)

Sadly I think that it will be swept under the carpet. Murdoch has already replaced the News of the World with a Sunday edition of The Sun so everything is as it was before. The fact that Murdoch also owns the more respectable The Sunday Times means that he has both ends of the market.

What we really need it for Murdoch's hapless son to be put in the frame for something serious only for him to give evidence against his father and bring the whole lot crashing down - including the politicians and police officers who have been paid off over the years.

Re:Rupert Murdoch has no scruples. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39482407)

Yeah, it's weird to feel almost on Murdoch's side for once. I remember annoying everyone in the room when the news came on the radio and I shouted, almost with glee, "Payback for Cable!"

There's one thing I like about Murdoch: he loves power and money and thrives on succeeding in business, but he hasn't really demonstrated any sort of creepy ideology beyond this. He isn't doing what the arms sellers do, making a mint from unnecessary deaths. He isn't doing what the private medical providers and insurers are doing, paying their way through friends in government to destruction of the welfare state. Indeed, any time he pretends to have an ideology - e.g. talking of meritocracy - he acts in a way completely contrary to it.

OTOH, focusing on this bogeyman to democratic freedom distracts from the people who are the real problem: the politicians and the firms they're silently selling the country to. Murdoch is exposed and failing. He remains untouchable. It's likely that this report is not one of a long line of expositions on corruption in government, but a single salvo to warn the government not to go any further. Like I said, Murdoch is no idealist. And it'll work.

Re:Rupert Murdoch has no scruples. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39482585)

"A Murdoch publication published evidence of the Conservative party's deputy treasurer admitting you could buy access to the prime minister and influence policy for a £250,000 party donation."

There is no honor among thieves.

Too big to jail (4, Insightful)

petes_PoV (912422) | about 2 years ago | (#39482063)

if he ever really goes down, he'll take a few politicians down with him

And that's his protection, right there. All the politicos in a lot of countries know that if they investigate his companies too deeply they'll uncover such a can of politically interconnected worms that their governments would have to relocate to the nearest jail.

He's been in so deep for so long that no major party would come out with clean hands, or be able to "cast the first stone". He knows it, they all know it and are just hoping that the media knows it too.

Re:Too big to jail (5, Informative)

Spad (470073) | about 2 years ago | (#39482349)

If only there were some kind of independent judicial inquiry [levesoninquiry.org.uk] currently in progress that was investigating the culture, practice & ethics of the press...

At this point it's virtually impossible for politicians, at least in the UK, to avoid looking into anything involving News International or other new media organisations. Any attempt to deflect attention from allegations such as this would be met with a very nasty response from their voters.

In retrospect, the fact that it took the hacking and possible manipulation of a murdered girl's voicemail to get people to pay attention is a little depressing, but at least now they are paying attention.

Re:Rupert Murdoch has no scruples. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39482283)

My only hope is that if he ever really goes down, he'll take a few politicians down with him. He's enough of a scumbag to do it if he ever really loses his sway.

And politicians aren't? :) Usually when stuff like this happens it's all down to who's got what. One guy can destroy another's reputation or career or image, the other can tighten the screw all the way to jail time. Depends who breaks down and to what level. It's never "I got dirt on you so you can't touch me", it's a monkey crap-flinging festival.

Re:Rupert Murdoch has no scruples. (4, Insightful)

Wrath0fb0b (302444) | about 2 years ago | (#39481579)

And what about all the nerds that actually did it? It's not like he sat around writing code himself. What about their (existent?) scruples? Did they know who paid them or wonder why? Did they just ignore those questions so long as they could?

You want to read this as a morality play about how a bad man did something wrong. I want to read it as being about how some pretty smart coders ran pretty sophisticated hacking ring and either be oblivious or indifferent to the fact that they were acting as modern-day thugs smashing up a rival's store.

It's the old "bad apples" routine -- or as Solzhenitsyn [wikipedia.org] put it more eloquently: "If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds, and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?â

Re:Rupert Murdoch has no scruples. (2)

philip.paradis (2580427) | about 2 years ago | (#39481705)

I don't view this is a morality play. I simply said it isn't funny, and I meant what I said. On the morality bit, you might be surprised to learn that I don't believe in black and white absolutes of morality either. In my experience, it really is all a matter of perspective, painted in shades of gray.

While others may certainly feel differently, I draw the humor line at the point where lots of real people lose their jobs and see their lives wrecked because of acts like this. I'm not saying Murdoch is guilty of this (I don't believe that's been proven yet), and I'm not saying the other side is innocent or blameless either. I'm simply saying I don't think the situation, on the whole, is funny.

Re:Rupert Murdoch has no scruples. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39481815)

A man who stands up for Rupert Murdoch. You wont get anywhere that way Wrathof. Except for maybe the odd backhander or two, chuckle chuckle chuckle.

Re:Rupert Murdoch has no scruples. (5, Insightful)

Y-Crate (540566) | about 2 years ago | (#39481871)

And what about all the nerds that actually did it?

They'll inevitably get hefty prison sentences, while Murdoch goes free with a "please don't do any more bad things until the next time you do bad things" warning.

RTFA (5, Informative)

Xest (935314) | about 2 years ago | (#39482207)

"And what about all the nerds that actually did it? It's not like he sat around writing code himself. What about their (existent?) scruples? Did they know who paid them or wonder why? Did they just ignore those questions so long as they could?"

None of that happened. The company that made the decryption cards was owned 50% by News International, and it made cards for Sky, and competitors like ITV's On Digital. Murdoch was a non-executive director at the company then this happened too.

There was no hacking, the company that made the cards was leaking the decryption keys, likely at the behest of James Murdoch/News International who had such a stake in the company.

Re:Rupert Murdoch has no scruples. (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39481697)

It'll be fucking hilarious if he ends up in jail.

Is there evidence that Murdoch knew about this? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39481365)

I have not RTFA, but, this would be damning if the board (including the Murdochs) were aware of it. They appear to be getting pounded in UK, though that has not yet reached this side of the Atlantic..

Wonder if the corruption is so pervasive that they've broken the law here as well, or if it was confined to the operations (and management) in UK alone.

Captcha: crotch.. :P

Re:Is there evidence that Murdoch knew about this? (3, Interesting)

Isca (550291) | about 2 years ago | (#39481385)

I wonder how much Fox news will report it. You can't tell me all the other networks aren't going to have a field day with this in the US.

Re:Is there evidence that Murdoch knew about this? (5, Funny)

Therad (2493316) | about 2 years ago | (#39481685)

"Breaking news! How will obama lower the price on gas? Have we gotten any proof he isn't a muslim? And will he ever show conclusive evidence that he is born in the US?"

Re:Is there evidence that Murdoch knew about this? (1)

djames (2566125) | about 2 years ago | (#39481753)

I wonder how much Fox news will report it. You can't tell me all the other networks aren't going to have a field day with this in the US.

I don't know the networks are usually pretty nice to each other and Murdoch's sort of ridiculously powerful. Remember when all the networks went after Obama's aide for pointing out the obvious fact that FOX news serves as a branch of the Republican party. Plus Murdoch is smart enough that there is no way that there is any evidence proving he knew about it (although I would be surprised if he didn't know)

Re:Is there evidence that Murdoch knew about this? (1)

epyT-R (613989) | about 2 years ago | (#39482173)

or maybe the networks sided with fox because 'obvious fact' wasn't quite so factual. the enemy of my enemy...

Re:Is there evidence that Murdoch knew about this? (3, Interesting)

gmhowell (26755) | about 2 years ago | (#39482441)

It's not so much being nice to each other. Fox and MSNBC employees seem to loathe each other from what I've read. The issue is that the businesses are looking at something more long term than todays viewership. Sure, CNN kicking Fox while it is down will help improve ratings tonight. The problem is when the current administration is no longer in power. If beating on Fox is ok now, you can bet beating on CNN will be ok in the future. This is merely the networks acting out of fear of mutually assured destruction [wikipedia.org].

Re:Is there evidence that Murdoch knew about this? (4, Insightful)

FoolishOwl (1698506) | about 2 years ago | (#39481911)

There will probably be some sharp satire on The Daily Show and The Colbert Report. MSNBC may make a few snide comments. Other than that, I would guess most media will ignore it. Fox will try to frame it as if Murdoch is the victim.

Re:Is there evidence that Murdoch knew about this? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39481925)

Just watch Outfoxed and you know more than enough....

Re:Is there evidence that Murdoch knew about this? (5, Insightful)

Guppy06 (410832) | about 2 years ago | (#39481445)

Murdoch has enough money to buy plausible deniability.

Re:Is there evidence that Murdoch knew about this? (-1, Flamebait)

dgatwood (11270) | about 2 years ago | (#39481591)

They appear to be getting pounded in UK, though that has not yet reached this side of the Atlantic..

It would be nice if Murdoch got pounded [urbandictionary.com].

I mean, normally, prison rape is not funny, but in his case, I'll make an exception.

Re:Is there evidence that Murdoch knew about this? (-1)

philip.paradis (2580427) | about 2 years ago | (#39481745)

I don't think rape is funny in any context. If you do, I think there's something wrong with you. There's a difference between dryly/wryly stated cause and effect speculations based on the likely outcome of certain scenarios, and actually thinking the act of rape is amusing. I really hope you don't think it is amusing.

Re:Is there evidence that Murdoch knew about this? (2)

epyT-R (613989) | about 2 years ago | (#39482189)

I see you're one of those ultra sensitives today's society pumps out in droves, who then lobby to make life so whitewashed and locked down that it's no longer interesting.. grow a thicker skin already, if you can't tell the difference between a joke and seriousness, or contextual reference.

Re:Is there evidence that Murdoch knew about this? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39482419)

Statistically, most people enjoy group rape.

Re:Is there evidence that Murdoch knew about this? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39482439)

Rape jokes are getting old.

Which is ironic as the people I rape are getting progressively younger.

Re:Is there evidence that Murdoch knew about this? (1)

hawkinspeter (831501) | about 2 years ago | (#39482449)

Some people don't like rape jokes.

In my experience I find it helps break the awkward tension afterwards.

Re:Is there evidence that Murdoch knew about this? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39482099)

From one of TFAs:

"James Murdoch was a non-executive director of NDS when ITV Digital was hacked, although there is no evidence that he knew about the events reported by Panorama."

So the more correct headline might be: "Corporation Owned by Murdoch Faces Allegations of Sabotage."

Re:Is there evidence that Murdoch knew about this? (1)

gmhowell (26755) | about 2 years ago | (#39482431)

They appear to be getting pounded in UK, though that has not yet reached this side of the Atlantic..

Until they are getting pounded in PMITA prison, they are not really being pounded. One can only hope that someday they will enjoy three hots and a cot at a quality 'reformatory'.

Well (0)

koan (80826) | about 2 years ago | (#39481401)

My outrage is reserved for the likes of the Murdoch clans criminal behavior not for piracy.

Hypothetical legal question (5, Interesting)

Michael Woodhams (112247) | about 2 years ago | (#39481405)

If ITV Digital was a publicly traded company
And it has ceased to exist due to bankruptcy
And the bankruptcy proceedings have been all wound up
And the allegations against BSkyB are true
And BSkyB can be successfully sued for large damages for what they did to ITV Digital

Who could bring such a suit? How would the proceeds be distributed? The obvious candidates are ITV Digital's creditors (who got paid less than they were owed) and ITV Digital's shareholders. However, it won't always be clear who owns those shares and bad debts, as they've been assumed to have zero value, so haven't been tracked since the end of bankruptcy.

Re:Hypothetical legal question (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39481461)

    It doesn't matter if they are public or private. Anyone who lost because of illegal conduct would be able to sue. It's a slam dunk if criminal guilt by BSkyB is proven

.

Re:Hypothetical legal question (1)

maadmole (698240) | about 2 years ago | (#39481865)

Perhaps coincidence, but News Corp is selling its stake in NDS to Cisco, whose pockets are certainly deep enough to attract litigation.

WAKEUP! (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39481411)

These stories of corporate evil have been posted on Slashdot since 1997. You'd think these issues of corporate responsibility and malfeasance would have been solved already. It's been 15 years already people! The same old corporate corruption, everyday, for 15 years!

It reminds me of that movie Groundhog Day. Every day its the same old shit. But at least in the fiction of the movie, things got better, and the Bill Murray eventually got laid.

Reference:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groundhog_Day_(film) [wikipedia.org]

Re:WAKEUP! (3, Interesting)

XDirtypunkX (1290358) | about 2 years ago | (#39481423)

Unfortunately no one has invented a vaccine for being an ass-hat. Until someone does, these things will continue.

Re:WAKEUP! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39481775)

I think the question we all need to ask is..

What /is/ an ass-hat? Is it a hat made of regular material that one wears on their ass? or is it a hat that has been made out of somebody's ass to be worn on one's head? Or perhaps the evil combination of someone's ass being crafted into a hat, to be worn on the ass? No, that's ridiculous - if that were a thing, it'd be called a double-ass-hat.

Re:WAKEUP! (1)

TapeCutter (624760) | about 2 years ago | (#39481801)

These stories of corporate evil have been posted on Slashdot since 1997. You'd think these issues of corporate responsibility and malfeasance would have been solved already.

Sigh, I'd love to be young again.

Re:WAKEUP! (1)

N Monkey (313423) | about 2 years ago | (#39481825)

It reminds me of that movie Groundhog Day. Every day its the same old shit. But at least in the fiction of the movie, things got better, and the Bill Murray eventually got laid.

No, he eventually became a good person. His character actually got laid before that ("[she] makes noises like a chipmunk when she gets *real* excited") but he still hadn't learned his lesson by that stage.
The question is whether the Murdochs are planning a trip to Punxsutawney.

fuck that nigga mane (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39481443)

murdoch aint shit

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Has anyone else noticed,...? (3, Funny)

drmofe (523606) | about 2 years ago | (#39481505)

...the close resemblance between Rupert Murdoch and Emperor Palpatine...?

Re:Has anyone else noticed,...? (4, Funny)

jfengel (409917) | about 2 years ago | (#39481513)

Given that this:

https://www.google.com/search?q=Rupert+Murdoch+and+Emperor+Palpatine [google.com]

yields 16,000 results, I'm gonna go with "yes".

Re:Has anyone else noticed,...? (2)

femto (459605) | about 2 years ago | (#39481809)

But:

https://www.google.com/search?q=Rupert+Murdoch+and+Doctor+Frank-N-Furter [google.com]

has 41,500 hits. What's that say?

Re:Has anyone else noticed,...? (2)

Xtifr (1323) | about 2 years ago | (#39481931)

Well, given that all the first-page results from Murdoch+Palpatine are about their surprising similarity, while all the first-page results from Murdoch+Furter are about Rocky Horror showing on channels that Murdoch owns, I'm going to say...not much. :)

Re:Has anyone else noticed,...? (2)

rtb61 (674572) | about 2 years ago | (#39481711)

I always felt this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKwk1ko6ceQ [youtube.com] was the closet match for Rupert Murdoch. Just picture him screaming from the other side of the TV screen via the Fox not-news network. Just so damn creepily accurate. Pretending to be on your side, as he peddles nothing but fear and hate, all the while scheming to steal your sole in the guise of the religious right.

Not just the appearance by the whole package, the psychopathic preacher peddling redemption but instead leading you to damnation and hell on earth.

Well known, even on Slashdot, hardly news now (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39481585)

NDS card hacking has been well known for a long time. They spent a year with some 30 guys using electron microscopes to reverse engineer their competitor's cards. When they published each new revision, they destroyed the Dish network's profitability for years, and everyone else using their competitor's technology. NDS mades the cards for DirecTV. They actually rate the security of their chips in electron-microscope years. This is well known, and well known that NDS and DirecTV are more Murdoch properties. I'm sure the people who have been discussing this for years are not surprised by the phone hacking scandal, which is like comparing pre-school with ... electron microscope school?

Re:Well known, even on Slashdot, hardly news now (1)

YesIAmAScript (886271) | about 2 years ago | (#39481923)

Yeah, I thought this had come and gone already. There were even lawsuits over it IIRC.

Re:Well known, even on Slashdot, hardly news now (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39481927)

Cracking Direct TV cards was the best cat and mouse hacker game ever until DMCA came around. The money I made from my bootloader was just icing on the cake. It was well know in the hacker circles that the big boys hacked each others cards. The code posted on DR7 for the H-card allowed me to make the bootloader.

BoyHowdy

Re:Well known, even on Slashdot, hardly news now (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39481939)

I'm sure the people who have been discussing this for years are not surprised by the phone hacking scandal, which is like comparing pre-school with ... electron microscope school?

This.

The boring story is about Murdoch's recent scandals. The interesting story is what, if any, complicity there was between two competing businesses, using the reverse-engineers as pawns (and whether or not the reversers knew they were pawns!) in a much larger chess game.

"Handbag vs Something Online" (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39481615)

There is a difference.

You can't tie "something online" around your testicals to make your penis harder.

Re:"Handbag vs Something Online" (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39481623)

You know how I know you've never been to /d/ ?

News Corp Caught Hacking in US (5, Informative)

Required Snark (1702878) | about 2 years ago | (#39481625)

News Corp already has a track record of computer crime in the US in 2004.

News America Marketing, the division of News Corp. that was going head-to-head with Floorgraphics, later admitted that someone in its office had illicitly accessed its competitor’s password-protected website. But an internal investigation, as well as subsequent probes by the FBI and the Secret Service, failed to pinpoint the person responsible.

Years later, after Floorgraphics’ lawsuit against News Corp. was settled and Henderson had received what he called a handsome exit payout, he openly talked about getting a peek at Floorgraphics’ forthcoming ad campaigns. Henderson’s co-workers didn't always know how much faith to put in their boss’s claims, but he certainly wasn’t one to mince words.

“He admitted he had information from inside Floorgraphics’ computer system. He knew how to get into their passwords,” one former News America staffer told New York. "He said he had the blessings of his bosses."

This incident followed the same pattern as the News of the World phone hacking scandal. An overly aggressive manager broke the law and was rewarded, and News Corp crushed the competition. When the bad deeds were found out the internal investigation was a joke:

As for News Corp.’s internal investigation, he concluded that it “falls far short of any standards in this area." The company made a cursory check of Henderson’s e-mail — “The only search conducted was a limited Outlook 'find' command" — but Cats concluded the company never interviewed Henderson or any other employees. Nor did it preserve a record of the investigation.

Then for some strange reason when the authorities investigate they decide not to press criminal charges (can you say political pressure, i knew you could). In the final stage, there is a civil case and it is settled out of court. In this case the total payout was $650 million. Note this figure includes some other wrongdoing besides the Floorgraphics case.

This is exactly what happened in the News of the World scandal, until The Guardian newspaper in England did some investigation and found out how massive the phone hacking was. Given these two cases, one in the US and one in the UK, what are the odds that News Corp is blameless in this situation.

Rupert Murdoch likes Pringles (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39481643)

So all those rumors about Procter and Gamble being a satanic organization might be true after all...

Just goes to show (2)

jamstar7 (694492) | about 2 years ago | (#39481799)

If you're a big corporation, piracy is a Good Thing, especially if it takes down a rival corporation.

But if you or I download 1 song 'illegally', it's 250,000 in fines and five years in pound-them-in-the-ass prison.

Have I got this right?

Re:Just goes to show (1)

damburger (981828) | about 2 years ago | (#39481851)

Yep

They draw up a definition of property that is enitirely contrary to common sense, and use it as a pretext to brutalise people in the name of sticking up for their 'rights'

Give him the Megaupload treatment (4, Interesting)

RelaxedTension (914174) | about 2 years ago | (#39481807)

There is clear signs of piracy, that was intentional. Close down ALL of it, all the newspapers, the tv stations, everything, and sort it out in court first.

Thats what they did to Megaupload, fair is fair.

Re:Give him the Megaupload treatment (2)

jpapon (1877296) | about 2 years ago | (#39482141)

I like the idea, but in practice you would be punishing thousands (tens of thousands?) of people who had nothing to do with this.

Re:Give him the Megaupload treatment (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39482221)

True. Ok, so let all the Megauoload users get their data back. Then shut everything down again. Oh, wait, did you mean _News Corp_ people who had nothing to do with it? Hmm, guess I have to think about whether my sympathy extends that far.

Re:Give him the Megaupload treatment (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39482367)

Just like nukes on a city, or closing off trading borders with entire countries, or killing off natives, and many more.

All of these people were innocent besides the minority vocal and defensive groups.
Did the innocent people deserve these things?

I left BSkyB. Never looked back. They flat-out accused me of having 3 boxes in our house, threatening cut-off unless I plugged their stupid micro-filters in that quite blatantly never worked and killed the connection regardless, over-charging constantly.
They are scum.

Re:Give him the Megaupload treatment (4, Insightful)

Spad (470073) | about 2 years ago | (#39482371)

Because there wasn't any collateral damage in the Megaupload case?

Re:Give him the Megaupload treatment (1)

blarkon (1712194) | about 2 years ago | (#39482339)

I'm confused. I thought piracy never hurt anyone. How could someone go out of business because of it? Stupid cognitive dissonance!

Murdoch is a crook (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39481905)

Anyone with a clue already knew this. In other breaking news, Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead.

Are you against DRM or for it? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39482213)

Maybe you slashbots decide at last...

Wrong. (1)

ausrob (864993) | about 2 years ago | (#39482243)

'There is no difference from going into a store and stealing a packet of Pringles or a handbag, and stealing something online. Right?'"

One [obvious] and distinct difference: physical deprivation of property. If someone steals a handbag, the lawful owner no longer possesses it (theft). If someone copies a file, the original is not removed, nor does the rightful owner lose possession (presumably).

Re:Wrong. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39482291)

From your point of view someone stealing your banking data is harmless (because you don't lose possession: you still have this data and the card too). Think again dude ...

Businesses going bust because of piracy? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#39482529)

You must be corporate shills!!!

Surprised? (1)

WindBourne (631190) | about 2 years ago | (#39482543)

Seriously, there is a lot of evidence that the system is being gamed to simply keep the falling companies on top. Murdoch is just one. The labels are right up there as well. No doubt if we look, we will find the *IAA's are up to their own BS as well.
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