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Pockets In Graphene Layers Allow Viewing of Liquids With an Electron Microscope

Unknown Lamer posted more than 2 years ago | from the the-emperor's-graphene-clothes dept.

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slew writes "Looking at liquids with a transmission electron microscope to observe things like crystal growth has been difficult to do. This is because liquids need to be confined to a capsule to view them in a TEM (because the electrons are flying at the sample in a chamber near vaccuum pressures where liquids would evaporate or sublimate). Traditional capsules of Silicon Oxide or Silicon Nitride have been fairly opaque. A paper describes a new technique with a 'pocket' created between two graphene layers which can hold liquids for observation by a TEM and the graphene is apparently much more transparent than previous materials allowing a better view of the processes (like crystalization), taking place in the liquid. The BBC has a non-paywalled summary article."

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Graphene pockets today... (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39626419)

Transparent aluminum tomorrow?

Re:Graphene pockets today... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39626723)

Pockets in Graphene Layers Allow[s] Viewing of Liquids With an Electron Microscope

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hey that's actually a pretty good summary (1, Offtopic)

Trepidity (597) | more than 2 years ago | (#39626431)

tl;dr, liquids have to be confined to be scanned in an electron microscope because otherwise they'll evaporate due to the near-vacuum pressures, previous solutions confined them in capsules that were not so transparent, new solution uses more-transparent bubbles between graphene layers to trap liquids in

Re:hey that's actually a pretty good summary (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39627295)

Yeah, looks like Unknown Lamer has grown some smarts.

Graphene, it's able to do anything! (0, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39626507)

There's nothing it can't fix. It'll soon be found to be in Captain America's Shield and in the Upsidasium Mountain.

Other work says water diffuses through graphene (4, Interesting)

ridgecritter (934252) | more than 2 years ago | (#39626605)

TFA seems inconsistent with a recent report that graphene is so transparent to water than one can in effect use a graphene barrier to selectively out-diffuse water. (http://biology-forums.com/index.php?topic=18349.0;topicseen) gives a popularized account of the original work that indicates you can concentrate alcohol in alcohol/water solutions by simply putting a graphene film bottlecap on the bottle. Yahoo! for those of us who want to make EverClear from vodka, I guess.

So if this story is talking about using graphene to enable TEM examination of aqueous systems, I don't see why the water doesn't diffuse rapidly out of the graphene bubble boundary, especially given the tiny volumes that would be involved in a TEM specimen.

The graphene water diffusion paper is "Unimpeded Permeation of Water Through Helium-LeakTight Graphene-Based Membranes", paywalled at Science Mag. Really interesting.

Re:Other work says water diffuses through graphene (3, Insightful)

reverseengineer (580922) | more than 2 years ago | (#39626719)

I think this is a non-aqueous system. I don't have access to this paper, but in an earlier paper [osti.gov] from the same group (using a silicon nitride cell) mentions that a "stock solution for synthesis was prepared by dissolving Pt(acetylacetonate)2 (10 mg/mL) in a mixture of o-dichlorobenzene and oleylamine (9:1 in volume ratio). About 100 nanoliters of the growth solution was loaded into the reservoir of a liquid cell and the solution was drawn into the cell by capillary force."

Re:Other work says water diffuses through graphene (1)

ridgecritter (934252) | more than 2 years ago | (#39626877)

Thanks for that info. Non-aqueous solvent systems would be consistent with the water diffusion work, and would be very, very useful. It would be a big deal to be able to do TEM on a liquid system.

Re:Other work says water diffuses through graphene (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39626739)

TFA seems inconsistent

It is consistent with the notion that graphene is apparently the miracle material that just does whatever Science politely asks it to do.

Re:Other work says water diffuses through graphene (4, Interesting)

niftydude (1745144) | more than 2 years ago | (#39626749)

TFA isn't inconsistent, not all liquids and solutions are aqueous.

The liquid used in the experiment was a mixture of Pt(acetylacetonate)2, o-dichlorobenzene and oleylamine.

No water was involved, though you are correct that this technique wouldn't be able to be used for aqueous sstems.

Re:Other work says water diffuses through graphene (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39626807)

A couple of things:

1) As others have said, this system is non aqueous (Pt(acac)2 in o-dichlorobenzene and oleylamine).
2) The graphene-as-water-filter was actually graphite oxide, which has a lot of functional groups protruding out from the basal planes into the interstices between layers. It's also still pretty unclear how the diffusion was happening at all, given that helium couldn't even wend its way through the interstitial galleries of the graphite oxide paper.

Re:Other work says water diffuses through graphene (3, Insightful)

dsgrntlxmply (610492) | more than 2 years ago | (#39626827)

What I recall from reading the graphene/water selectively permeable barrier paper (Nair et al. in Geim's research group, Science 335, 442-444 (2012)), makes the situations not comparable. The graphene in the selectively permeable barrier was not a monolayer as in this topic's paper, but rather a sort of graphene baklava: stacked monolayers with more-or-less random holes/gaps in each layer (and the graphene was oxidized). The authors offered a nanocapillary model where "a network of graphene nanocapillaries formed within GO laminates, which are filled with monolayer water under ambient conditions." Water and graphene each are extraordinary materials; put them together and things get even more extraordinary.

Re:Other work says water diffuses through graphene (1)

ridgecritter (934252) | more than 2 years ago | (#39626949)

A graphene baklava: wonderful image, thank you. It amazes me that a structure that won't allow helium to diffuse lets water pass easily. Who'da thunk?

Re:Other work says water diffuses through graphene (1)

marcosdumay (620877) | more than 2 years ago | (#39634343)

This post is the top thing on google when searching for "graphene baklava"! The rest seems to be blogs about baklava using the graphene wordpress template... At least I was able to discover what a baklava is.

Searching for the author name gets better results.

I have a graphene penis! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39626663)

I have a graphene penis! Bow before me, mortals!

Re:I have a graphene penis! (4, Funny)

dsgrntlxmply (610492) | more than 2 years ago | (#39626833)

You have confused a monolayer with your nanotube.

A Scientific Wonder! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39626847)

When graphene was first discovered I remember scientists hailing it as a very useful material with many different applications. They weren't lying.

I also remember that the discovery of it was relatively simple as anyone who has used a pencil and made a line one atom thick made graphene.

Re:A Scientific Wonder! (1)

viperidaenz (2515578) | more than 2 years ago | (#39627067)

It's a Golden Hammer [wikipedia.org]

The electrons move as if they've in a wave!! (1)

PFritz21 (766949) | more than 2 years ago | (#39626945)

IT'S A WAVE!!

Now would be the appropriate time for applause...

Troglodytes...

Shitter was full! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39626987)

http://cryptome.org/ [cryptome.org] has posted this:

FBI Backdoor: Templar NVIDIA GPU Factoring Suite March 29, 2012
http://cryptome.org/2012/03/Templar.zip [cryptome.org]

Other sites and twitter tweets have picked up the story and linked to the zip archive.

But, what is inside?

No one seems to know or wants to blog/tweet/talk about it on discussion forums, searching the web only reveals links to cryptome's url for the zip archive.

I'm not downloading the zip, but I'd like to know what is inside. Is this a separate program offered by NVidia, a hardware or firmware exploit?

What?

Please begin posting to blogs and discussion forums indexed by Google and other search engines, what this mystery zip archive contains!

Is anybody reading this?

Re:Shitter was full! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39627129)

No, we don't care about you or your interests.

I can't see it now. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39627203)

Introducing the new graphene condom! the thinnest condom ever!

How do you sublimate that which is liquid? (1)

MrBippers (1091791) | more than 2 years ago | (#39627241)

Sublimation is, by definition, solid-->gas without forming a liquid intermediate.

Re:How do you sublimate that which is liquid? (1)

RivenAleem (1590553) | more than 2 years ago | (#39628327)

I'd also like to know this, it does sound very strange for a liquid to sublimate. Perhaps they are confusing evaporation due to a vacuum vs evaporation due to temperature?

mod d0wn (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39627601)

later seen in

New measurement system - new breakthroughs (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39627659)

Whenever we discover a new way of measuring things, new breakthroughs follow. Just like the recent breakthrough in high speed photography leading to cameras that can see around walls.

This isn't news for nerds! (1)

thegarbz (1787294) | more than 2 years ago | (#39627693)

What would be news for nerds if finding something graphene CAN'T do.

Seriously though is anyone else thinking graphene is the next massive step in science? Hardly a week goes by without hearing about some fantastic achievement graphene related such as creating 3 atom thick glass, filtering pure H2O, improving charge density in batteries, converting photons to electrons, and best of all it can be made from cookies! [slashdot.org]

We freeze liquid samples... (1)

fonske (1224340) | more than 2 years ago | (#39628925)

and measure them under UHV conditions (TOF-SIMS) by keeping the temperature of the sample holder low with a "cold finger" protruding from a liquid nitrogen reservoir.

The electrons move as if they've in a wave!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39630291)

something exist is reasonable.http://www.prettyaccessory.com/

"transparent" to light but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39633073)

Okay, I'm really confused. Something that is transparent, such as graphene, allows light (photons) to penetrate so that in contents can be observed (optically)... but, I thought we were talking about an electron microscope. How are electrons supposed to penetrate the graphene? Their path, from the tip of the microscope to the surface that's being observed needs to be free from any material (evacuated) so that electrons can move freely to the surface. What am I missing?

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