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Matt Groening Reveals Springfield Is In His Home State of Oregon

samzenpus posted more than 2 years ago | from the where's-Shelbyville? dept.

Television 148

First time accepted submitter TheSeventh writes "Simpsons creator Matt Groening has revealed the location of the real Springfield: It's in Oregon. In an interview with Smithsonian magazine, Groening credits the name to the hit TV show Father Knows Best. The show 'took place in the town of Springfield, and I was thrilled because I imagined that it was the town next to Portland, my hometown,' he says. 'When I grew up, I realized it was just a fictitious name. I also figured out that Springfield was one of the most common names for a city in the U.S. In anticipation of the success of the show, I thought, 'This will be cool; everyone will think it's their Springfield.' And they do.'"

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Springfield located!!! (0)

Quiet_Desperation (858215) | more than 2 years ago | (#39647837)

...um... yay? I guess?

Bullshit. (2)

Penguinisto (415985) | more than 2 years ago | (#39649239)

It doesn't rain nearly enough on the show, and there's not enough bars (just Moe's).

OTOH, I can see the characters based on the townfolk in general...

(Disclosure: I live near PDX.)

Funny... (5, Funny)

Hartree (191324) | more than 2 years ago | (#39647843)

I always thought it was inside my television.

Re:Funny... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39648253)

Even stranger, I've never seen a lesbian couple on The Simpsons.

Re:Funny... (1)

krept (697623) | more than 2 years ago | (#39648377)

There was that episode where Marge started hanging out with those "Real housewives" or something. Turns out they were just closet lesbians.

Re:Funny... (1)

mcgrew (92797) | more than 2 years ago | (#39648773)

People here in Springfield, IL are shocked. We have the Simpsons' Springfield rivals with the same name as a town right down the highway, we had a dead ringer for Mr Burns running the power company (retired last year), a dead ringer for Mayor Quimby (committed suicide last year), a dead ringer for the TV news announcer at local station WICS (retired 2 years ago).

We have Ward 2 alderman Gail Simpson.

And the town is full of cartoon characters, especially if you drink and take Paxil.

Re:Funny... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39649083)

Yeah - but all the streets in Portland are named after Simpson's characters... err.

Wrong (5, Informative)

readandburn (825014) | more than 2 years ago | (#39647847)

From Wikipedia... Due to the many contradictory statements regarding Springfield, it is impossible for the town to exist in any specific U.S. state. For example, in The Simpsons Movie, Ned Flanders tells Bart that Ohio, Nevada, Maine, and Kentucky all border Springfield's state. The city's unknown and unknowable geography is a recurring joke in the series; despite the "riddle wrapped in an enigma that is Springfield's location", Lisa Simpson states that "it's a bit of a mystery, yes. But if you look at the clues, you can figure it out." Episodes frequently make fun of the fact that Springfield's state is unidentifiable by adding further conflicting descriptions, obscuring onscreen map representations, and interrupting conversational references. The telephone area codes for Springfield are 636 (St. Charles County - Western St. Louis County, Missouri) and 939 (Puerto Rico). David Silverman has claimed that Springfield is in the fictional state of "North Takoma". This is substantiated by the state abbreviations NT and TA used within the show. However, this has never been officially confirmed in any canonical episode of The Simpsons or by other Simpsons producers.

Re:Wrong (2, Informative)

emurphy42 (631808) | more than 2 years ago | (#39647879)

From TFA:

Springfield was named after Springfield, Oregon. ...
You’ve never said it was named after Springfield, Oregon, before, have you?
I don’t want to ruin it for people, you know? Whenever people say it’s Springfield, Ohio, or Springfield, Massachusetts, or Springfield, wherever, I always go, "Yup, that’s right."

Re:Wrong (2)

evilRhino (638506) | more than 2 years ago | (#39649113)

"named after" != "is in"

Re:Wrong (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39647949)

Ah, slashdot pedantry at its best, when people think they now better than the writer of an obviously fictional story.

Re:Wrong (1)

Kam Solusar (974711) | more than 2 years ago | (#39648293)

When a fictional universes has been around for a long time, the opinion of the creator becomes less and less important and the stories themselves and the fictional facts therein become more important.

It's the same with the Star Wars Expanded Universe, where many fans desperately wish that Lucas would stop meddling with their SW universe and leave it to the authors and writers who can capture the feel of the universe much better and have a lot more knowledge about what's happening in that world.

Re:Wrong (3, Insightful)

Penguinisto (415985) | more than 2 years ago | (#39648949)

Not to be a jerk or anything, but what in the hell is a "fictional fact"?

No, really, that's just wrong. Way wrong. Please don't do that again.

==

I do agree with you that once a canon of sorts is established, especially in a long-running fictional/storybook 'universe', the details of it do fill out, and fans expect the author to try and stay within them, especially as the storylines get more complex. On the other hand, it all too often happens that a new and interesting story may well break the fabric of what you the fan may have come to expect, and something is going to have to explain that.

Maybe Groening will come up with such an explanation in the future? After all, it wasn't unheard of for weird crap to occur in Start Trek:TNG (and others) to start popping out of the writers' collective arse to explain a particular story or situation (accidental time travel, getting sucked into alternate universes, the all-too-rambunctious dilithium crystals, etc.)

Re:Wrong (1)

doston (2372830) | more than 2 years ago | (#39648961)

When a fictional universes has been around for a long time, the opinion of the creator becomes less and less important and the stories themselves and the fictional facts therein become more important.

It's the same with the Star Wars Expanded Universe, where many fans desperately wish that Lucas would stop meddling with their SW universe and leave it to the authors and writers who can capture the feel of the universe much better and have a lot more knowledge about what's happening in that world.

Meh, I disagree. Groening was probably only very hands on for the first few seasons. And probably wasn't as heavily involved much past Schwartzwelder (sp?). I would think the creator's original notion is more important than the nameless rabble of writers who've contributed to that show over the years, for a fact like where Springfield is located. Plus, it's important to take people at their word. He says it's in Oregon, so it's in Oregon. It probably turned into more an amalgam of places over time.

Re:Wrong (0, Troll)

cavtroop (859432) | more than 2 years ago | (#39647959)

did you really just cite Wikipedia over the CREATOR of the show?

Re:Wrong (5, Funny)

readandburn (825014) | more than 2 years ago | (#39648023)

I didn't realize the CREATOR of the show could make Oregon border Ohio, Maine, and Kentucky. I stand corrected.

Re:Wrong (1)

Xenx (2211586) | more than 2 years ago | (#39648097)

I didn't realize the CREATOR of the show could make Oregon border Ohio, Maine, and Kentucky. I stand corrected.

Funny, I don't think any state can fit that description... at least in the real world. But, given that Simpsons isn't a documentary, I think the creator can do whatever he wants with the location.

Re:Wrong (3, Interesting)

91degrees (207121) | more than 2 years ago | (#39648199)

Sure, but according to the principle of the Death of the Author [tvtropes.org] (warning - TVTropes link), unless it's made clear in the text, the author's opinion has no weight when it comes to an interpretation.

Based entirely on the work it seems quite clear that Springfield is nowhere, or anywhere depending on how you want to look at it, this allowing the viewer to consider it to be somewhere relevant to himself.

Re:Wrong (1)

Xenx (2211586) | more than 2 years ago | (#39648307)

Sure, but according to the principle of the Death of the Author [tvtropes.org] (warning - TVTropes link), unless it's made clear in the text, the author's opinion has no weight when it comes to an interpretation. Based entirely on the work it seems quite clear that Springfield is nowhere, or anywhere depending on how you want to look at it, this allowing the viewer to consider it to be somewhere relevant to himself.

And while he has said he based it on Springfield, OR, the actual intent of the shows writings was to do exactly what you described.

Re:Wrong (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 2 years ago | (#39648433)

Oh, well TVTROPES. that settles it~

Based on the entiority of the work, SPringfield is in Oregon. Here:
Names of streets in Portland:
Quimby, Terrwilliger, Powell, Lovejoy, flanders.
Look at the bridges.

It became obvious to me that Springfield is in Oregon the first time I visited Portland.

I like how people keep referring to what Ned Flanders says. An evangelical wrong on a basic and obvious fact? Surely it's a statement of fact and not a Joke~

Re:Wrong (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39648115)

Well, ultimately it seems no one is actually reading the interview. The Springfield where the Simpsons live is not in Oregon, it is not anywhere. It was inspired by and named after Springfield, Oregon, which is entirely different.

From TFA:

Springfield was named after Springfield, Oregon. The only reason is that when I was a kid, the TV show “Father Knows Best” took place in the town of Springfield, and I was thrilled because I imagined that it was the town next to Portland, my hometown. When I grew up, I realized it was just a fictitious name. I also figured out that Springfield was one of the most common names for a city in the U.S. In anticipation of the success of the show, I thought, “This will be cool; everyone will think it’s their Springfield.” And they do.

At no point does he claim the show is supposed to take place in Oregon, since it obviously doesn't.

Re:Wrong (1)

Gilmoure (18428) | more than 2 years ago | (#39648179)

Who says it takes place on this Earth? Maybe it's on Earth Prime or Earth B?

Re:Wrong (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39648183)

The fictional city is fictionally located in the state of Oregon. Get over it.

You pedantic ass.

Re:Wrong (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39648829)

Except it isn't. It was named after a city in Oregon, just like the supporting characters were named after streets. This does not make the characters streets and it doesn't make the fictional city reside in Oregon.

Re:Wrong (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39648223)

The creator of the show purposely made it confusing so that morons like you wouldn't try to defend their point about how it's "their" state, leading to an effect where everyone can associate their Springfield with the show's.

Re:Wrong (0)

Thud457 (234763) | more than 2 years ago | (#39648291)

From Wikipedia... Due to the many contradictory statements regarding Springfield, it is impossible for the town to exist in any specific U.S. state. For example, in The Simpsons Movie, Ned Flanders tells Bart that Ohio, Nevada, Maine, and Kentucky all border Springfield's state. The city's unknown and unknowable geography is a recurring joke in the series; despite the "riddle wrapped in an enigma that is Springfield's location", Lisa Simpson states that "it's a bit of a mystery, yes. But if you look at the clues, you can figure it out." Episodes frequently make fun of the fact that Springfield's state is unidentifiable by adding further conflicting descriptions, obscuring onscreen map representations, and interrupting conversational references. The telephone area codes for Springfield are 636 (St. Charles County - Western St. Louis County, Missouri) and 939 (Puerto Rico). David Silverman has claimed that Springfield is in the fictional state of "North Takoma". This is substantiated by the state abbreviations NT and TA used within the show. However, this has never been officially confirmed in any canonical episode of The Simpsons or by other Simpsons producers.

Maybe Groening failed geography.
And apparently topology, also.

Re:Wrong (3, Funny)

Chris Burke (6130) | more than 2 years ago | (#39648387)

You didn't realize that the creator of a cartoon can make their cartoon city in any place they want, and make it bordered by any other place they want?

Really?

I'm surprised you also didn't point out that the real Springfield, OR isn't occupied by 2-dimensional 4-fingered cartoons, hasn't ever been taken over by aliens, never had the sun blocked out by the nuclear plant owner's giant sunshade, or damaged to the tune of millions of dollars on a regular basis by the town's lovable buffoon.

Re:Wrong (1)

cyberchondriac (456626) | more than 2 years ago | (#39648995)

I'm surprised you also didn't point out that the real Springfield, OR isn't occupied by 2-dimensional 4-fingered cartoons

Just once, for the pure hell of it, I'd like to see a cartoon with normal 5 fingered people. Just to be different, because I don't think anyone's ever done it. I guess animators charge by the finger. Maybe in the future, cartoon people will have just have pincers...especially if Burn's nuclear plant stays in business!

Jap animation (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 2 years ago | (#39649037)

I'd like to see a cartoon with normal 5 fingered people.

Try any random anime. Or look at the Marios in The Super Mario Bros. Super Show.

The Briggses (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 2 years ago | (#39649087)

Springfield, OR [...] hasn't ever been taken over by aliens

Were Native Americans living in what is now Lane County when Elias and Mary Briggs invaded? If so, that'd make the Briggses "aliens" (as in "not citizens").

Re:Wrong (2)

Tumbleweed (3706) | more than 2 years ago | (#39648651)

I didn't realize the CREATOR of the show could make Oregon border Ohio, Maine, and Kentucky. I stand corrected.

Well, Kentucky is fictional, too, so I don't see why it's such a big deal. Kentucky IS fictional, right? Yeah, GOTTA be. No way a place like that exists for real.

Re:Wrong (1)

Gr33nJ3ll0 (1367543) | more than 2 years ago | (#39648713)

Don't drink much bourbon do you? :)

Re:Wrong (1)

osu-neko (2604) | more than 2 years ago | (#39648951)

Don't drink much bourbon do you? :)

Funny, reading his comment, I suspected he drank too much bourbon. ;)

Re: Just Groening's wrong transcription (1)

formfeed (703859) | more than 2 years ago | (#39649383)

I didn't realize the CREATOR of the show could make Oregon border Ohio, Maine, and Kentucky. I stand corrected.

Given that Groening only is the creator of the show in so far as it was him who wrote the story down, I wouldn't put to much weight on these inconsistencies.
Who knows what else he got wrong when he first tried to turn the true inspirations into TV episodes. And since the original golden tablets are lost we might never know.

Regarding the location of Springfield I personally would rather trust Lisa Simpson than Matt Groening.

Re:Wrong (1)

Quirkz (1206400) | more than 2 years ago | (#39648013)

He's also said somewhere, I think on the DVD commentary tracks but perhaps somewhere else, that the town itself is in many ways modeled after Portland, so again this is no real surprise. (With convenient additions of whatever geography is needed whenever needed; hey, it's fiction.)

Re:Wrong (1)

Gilmoure (18428) | more than 2 years ago | (#39648211)

Uh, Springfield has both mountains and a sea shore. I dont know what this "Portland" is but does it have such a cool geography? I think eat up Martha!

Re:Wrong (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 2 years ago | (#39648465)

yes..i mean, no. Stay away. It's all flat and hippies. Everything sucks.

haha.

Portland, Oregon - Visitors welcome. Please take a hippie when you return home.

Re:Wrong (2)

Rude Turnip (49495) | more than 2 years ago | (#39648623)

The fact that The Simpsons is still on the air probably proves this out...because where else can the dream of the 90s be alive?

Re:Wrong (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39649207)

He's also said somewhere, I think on the DVD commentary tracks but perhaps somewhere else, that the town itself is in many ways modeled after Portland, so again this is no real surprise. (With convenient additions of whatever geography is needed whenever needed; hey, it's fiction.)

Nope. Portland is now modeled on the town in the show.

Re:Wrong (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39648071)

Ned Flanders tells Bart that Ohio, Nevada, Maine, and Kentucky all border Springfield's state.

obviously, ned either flunked social studies, repeatedly.. or went to school in a place like tennessee and 'god said so'.

Re:Wrong (1)

Squiddie (1942230) | more than 2 years ago | (#39648461)

What I believe he really meant is that the real Springfield, for him, it's in Oregon, but it's also in your state too because you're supposed to do that.

Re:Wrong (1)

operagost (62405) | more than 2 years ago | (#39648563)

The funny thing is that there was a "documentary" episode, hosted by Troy McClure, where the Simpsons were referred to as a "suburban Kentucky family".

Re:Wrong (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39648683)

-- Golf Clap --

You, sir, would be worthy inane debate opponent for Comic Book Guy. I look forward to your future works in minutia. And yes, sir, it is burning. Well done.

Re:Wrong (1)

quetwo (1203948) | more than 2 years ago | (#39649335)

Additionally, in earlier episodes, there are often short clips of mail that were shown on screen. Mr. Burn's address in 03F06 (I believe -- it was on a few days ago) was shown to be in "Springfield, IL." Other episodes showed mail to go to "Springfield, NT", but that was not until much later in the series (the first use of it I believe was in the 10th season).

A more accurate headline (4, Insightful)

crazyjj (2598719) | more than 2 years ago | (#39647853)

"Matt Groening Reveals that 'Springfield' Name Came From 'Father Knows Best'"

The Springfield of the show is, of course, fiction. It can't exist. It's everywhere in the U.S. all at once. It's in the desert, near the ocean, it was founded by colonial settlers, it's close to both Mexico and Canada, it's home to every type of U.S. wildlife (except for bears, of course--the Bear Patrol keeps those out).

About the only things you won't find there these days are decent writing or a sense of pride.

Re:A more accurate headline (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39648039)

About the only things you won't find there these days are decent writing or a sense of pride.

Yeah, for that you need to go to Shelbyville.

Re:A more accurate headline (1)

Dahamma (304068) | more than 2 years ago | (#39648045)

it's home to every type of U.S. wildlife (except for bears, of course--the Bear Patrol keeps those out).

And sharks. All of that jumping exhausted the local shark population years ago.

Re:A more accurate headline (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 2 years ago | (#39648511)

Sounds like you described Oregon just fine.

Although I'm not sure why you think it's close to mexico. There is no time line given on the trip.

I'm sorry the huumor progressed from Choking a child to actually needing to think about it. It must be..so Dull in your head.

Re:A more accurate headline (1)

Tumbleweed (3706) | more than 2 years ago | (#39648663)

About the only things you won't find there these days are decent writing or a sense of pride.

I thought this season was substantially better than the last several. You might want to give it a try if you haven't for a while.

No he doesn't (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39647875)

From TFA: "Springfield was named after Springfield, Oregon"

That doesn't mean it IS Springfield, Oregon.

Re:No he doesn't (1)

Gilmoure (18428) | more than 2 years ago | (#39648239)

Look up Springfield, Organ on the map. They look identical.

Re:No he doesn't (1)

Fieryphoenix (1161565) | more than 2 years ago | (#39648255)

How dare you make distinctions, sir! This ridiculous amount of sense you're making threatens my confidence that I am not in fact the Archangel Michael, but only named in his honor. I won't stand for it!

Re:No he doesn't (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39648419)

Next up: Paris, Missouri doesn't have an Eiffel Tower. News at 11.

Springfield is among the most common US city names (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39648653)

From Groening,

I also figured out that Springfield was one of the most common names for a city in the U.S. In anticipation of the success of the show, I thought, “This will be cool; everyone will think it’s their Springfield.” And they do.

aw man... (5, Funny)

BattleApple (956701) | more than 2 years ago | (#39647877)

I thought, 'This will be cool; everyone will think it's their Springfield.' And they do.'

Well, not anymore.

Re:aw man... (0)

virgnarus (1949790) | more than 2 years ago | (#39647981)

Everyone is well aware that show died long time ago. Matt played it safe by waiting to reveal it now rather than before when it was in its prime.

Re:aw man... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39648481)

I thought, 'This will be cool; everyone will think it's their Springfield.' And they do.'

Well, not anymore.

In all seriousness, nailing down any fictional creation to a real-world equivalent kind of defeats the purpose of fiction.

It's especially lame if you do it after the fact. If you come out at the beginning and say, "Once upon a time in Springfield, Oregon..." you're establishing a setting, and that can be useful. Doing it after twenty-something seasons is like saying, "Oh, yeah, and Bob was really Jesus. The End."

More important (2)

Grelfer (2580321) | more than 2 years ago | (#39647909)

Where's Shelbyville?

Re:More important (4, Insightful)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 2 years ago | (#39647955)

Eugene.

Re:More important (1)

BLBishop (64387) | more than 2 years ago | (#39648479)

Now we can refer to Eugene, OR as "Shelbyville."

Re:More important (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39648141)

What's really funny is that Illinois has the most nuclear power plants and there is a Shelbyville, IL fairly close to Springfield.

Re:More important (1)

MostAwesomeDude (980382) | more than 2 years ago | (#39649325)

The nuclear power plant in-show represents Weyerhaeuser ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weyerhaeuser [wikipedia.org] ), a large paper company for whom just about everybody worked in the 80s. Either you worked for them, your spouse worked for them, or your parent worked for them. This was the big industry in the Eugene/Springfield area when Groening was young. I imagine he went with a nuclear power plant instead because of the comedic opportunities.

Next (1)

haystor (102186) | more than 2 years ago | (#39647927)

Springfield is in Oregon.
We know who that song was about.

Now if we could only figure out why Billy Joe jumped off that bridge.

Wah (1)

Cazekiel (1417893) | more than 2 years ago | (#39647951)

All along, we've thought it to be in OUR nearby Springfield. Life sucks suddenly.

Re:Wah (0)

geekoid (135745) | more than 2 years ago | (#39648529)

How many kids did George Carlin have?
Where did he get his PhD in Child development?

Can't possibly be in Oregon (5, Funny)

danwesnor (896499) | more than 2 years ago | (#39647971)

The characters aren't weird enough.

Re:Can't possibly be in Oregon (1)

khr (708262) | more than 2 years ago | (#39648109)

The characters aren't weird enough.

Oregonians aren't weird... As an Oregonian (now living in New York City) I can say that Oregon is one of the most normal places in the U.S. It's the rest of the country that's just plain weird.

Re:Can't possibly be in Oregon (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 2 years ago | (#39648539)

No, Oregon is weird. I mean, if they start to be normal, they quickly create a protest group against it.

Re:Can't possibly be in Oregon (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39648163)

I think you're mistaking Oregon for its neighbor Idaho.

Re:Can't possibly be in Oregon (1)

Jeng (926980) | more than 2 years ago | (#39648283)

Yea, that also disqualifies Texas.

R.I.P. Leslie

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leslie_Cochran [wikipedia.org]

Re:Can't possibly be in Oregon (1)

Chris Burke (6130) | more than 2 years ago | (#39648473)

Leslie died?! D=

Man I can't believe I missed the news. Such a bummer. Austin is now officially less weird. :(

Re:Can't possibly be in Oregon (2)

zullnero (833754) | more than 2 years ago | (#39648767)

Heh, keep on believing that. Oregon likes it when you perpetuate that stereotype because it's been fantastic marketing. Almost all of the state is pretty granola...just so much flyover country between Seattle and San Fran. The media has done wonders to trick people into stopping over here and spending dollars. And mostly, the weirdness is confined to Portland. Eugene is just a college town that, for whatever reason, the rest of the country still believes is a big hippie commune. Oh, yeah, and it's TOTALLY the Springfield in Oregon. We Portlanders have always known that. Next time you're in Portland, take a walk through NW Portland and look at the steetsigns. You'll see names like "Flanders" and "Lovejoy". Get it?

Re:Can't possibly be in Oregon (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39649231)

Don't forget the old Trojan Power plant too!...

Most Simpson names are from the Portland area... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39647977)

...such as Flanders, Lovejoy and Quimby (street names), and Burns (from the Burnside Bridge.)

So, no surprise that Springfield would be in or near Oregon.

Great! Now, where is South Park? (1)

gstrickler (920733) | more than 2 years ago | (#39647985)

If they can only answer that, my life's purpose will still be unknown.

P.S. Yes, I'm aware that it's almost certainly modeled on Fairplay, CO. I've been there, and to South Park, about 20mi away.

Re:Great! Now, where is South Park? (1)

Quirkz (1206400) | more than 2 years ago | (#39648041)

I drive through there a few times a year. One of my favorite stretches of highway in the country. Can't bring myself to get excited that the name has anything to do with the cartoon, though.

GI Joe (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39647987)

In the 80's, Springfield was also the secret location of COBRA headquarters.

Re:GI Joe (1)

Dahamma (304068) | more than 2 years ago | (#39648095)

Yeah, but that was before Hank Scorpio took over the operation and relocated to Cypress Creek...

Re:GI Joe (1)

Ferzerp (83619) | more than 2 years ago | (#39648379)

Is that the one that runs down Cypress Hill? Or am I just being insane?

Re:GI Joe (1)

lozo78 (2595485) | more than 2 years ago | (#39648551)

Hammocks! Homer, there's four places. There's the Hammock Hut, that's on third. There's Hammocks-R-Us, that's on third too. You got Put-Your-Butt-There. That's on third. Swing Low, Sweet Chariot... Matter of fact, they're all in the same complex; it's the hammock complex on third. You know, there's a little place called Mary Ann's Hammocks. The nice thing about that place is Mary Ann gets in the hammock with you. Best episode ever.

Re:GI Joe (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39649213)

Hammocks! Homer, there's four places. There's the Hammock Hut, that's on third. There's Hammocks-R-Us, that's on third too. You got Put-Your-Butt-There. That's on third. Swing Low, Sweet Chariot... Matter of fact, they're all in the same complex; it's the hammock complex on third. You know, there's a little place called Mary Ann's Hammocks. The nice thing about that place is Mary Ann gets in the hammock with you. Best episode ever.

"If you want to kill someone on your way out, it would help me a lot."

Old news is old... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39648299)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Simpsons_20th_Anniversary_Special_%E2%80%93_In_3-D!_On_Ice!

Matt Groening already explained that Springfield is based off of Portland. All the characters are named after streets in Portland.

Old news is old...

Too late (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39648361)

Maybe this would have been important like 12 years ago, when the series stopped being cool and funny.

Does it matter? (1)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 2 years ago | (#39648371)

Let's be honest. Between the shows, such a town cannot exist. It cannot be a huge city, lacking the necessary skyscrapers to house a multi million people population, but it has all the amenities of large towns, from well stocked and funded museums to casinos and other enterprises that need a large customer base to be profitable, plus it is visited by foreign dignitaries and is considered as the host of Olympic games. Still we only get to see a fairly small amount of people altogether, let alone be introduced to more than a few dozen. There is also a surprising lack of traffic (unless needed for the script), but it has an international airport.

Then there's the geography. You have a beach right in front of it, yet huge mountains like the murderhorn and a skiing resort right behind it. And somewhere near is also a desert and what seems to be some kind of swamp/jungle and a seriously huge forest. It's equally close to Mexico and Canada.

Face it, it cannot be anywhere. But that's ok, that's not important. It gives the writers a lot more freedom, by giving the town access to whatever public building or service they need for their script, as well as any environment needed.

Why do you need to pinpoint it on a map? It is simply not necessary for anything.

Re:Does it matter? (1)

DerekLyons (302214) | more than 2 years ago | (#39648783)

Why do you need to pinpoint it on a map? It is simply not necessary for anything.

Because it's ratings are fading, or because it's mostly continuing on inertia, or because it hasn't been on the cutting edge of cultural relevance in twenty years... Or whatever other reason. They just needed the column inches.

Re:Does it matter? (1)

TheSeventh (824276) | more than 2 years ago | (#39649091)

Why do you need to pinpoint it on a map? It is simply not necessary for anything.

Only because it's been a running joke, and that in actuality it couldn't be in any real state. All references to it in the show were vague, contradictory, or hidden from view (maps, satellite images, mail, driver's licenses, etc.).

In one episode Lisa mentioned that there were enough clues to figure it out, but because there are so many contradictory clues, she meant that it wasn't a real city. This is just the final word (hopefully), that it is actually based on Springfield Oregon, just a highly fictionalized version of it and all the surrounding geography (continent-wide).

The headline is misleading (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39648445)

Nowhere does he say that the Simpson's Springfield is in Oregon. He says it's named after a fictitious Springfield that resided in Oregon from another TV show. Naming it after another town doesn't make it that town any more than naming my child after me makes him me. There is no "real" Springfield and that was the creators intent; to make Springfield everywhere. He states that very clearly. people need to learn how to read.

Re:The headline is misleading (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39648625)

Groenig went to the U of O. The shitstain hillbilly town attached to Eugene is Springfield. Do the math.

Re:The headline is misleading (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39649025)

I don't need to, there is no math to do. I already explained that the Simpson's Springfield is a fictional place, like Gotham City or Metropolis. It was NAMED AFTER the fictional Springfield that was in "Father Knows Best" that was based on the actual Springfield in Oregon. It's not a real place. This is a simple concept. I don't get what's so complicated for people to understand.

Shelbyville. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39648449)

Isn't Oregon the Shelbyville of the pacific north west?

Never thought it was my Springfield... (1)

CrAlt (3208) | more than 2 years ago | (#39648533)

I thought, 'This will be cool; everyone will think it's their Springfield.' And they do.

Mine is Springfield, Massachusetts.. I knew it had nothing to do with the one on the show. The TV "Springfield" is way to nice to be the one in Massachusetts.. Not nearly enough stabbings or hobo's on the TV show to be my Springfield. :-/

Re:Never thought it was my Springfield... (1)

cstacy (534252) | more than 2 years ago | (#39649111)

I thought, 'This will be cool; everyone will think it's their Springfield.' And they do.

Mine is Springfield, Massachusetts.. I knew it had nothing to do with the one on the show./

I remember reading an article more than 15 years ago where they interviewed some of the Simpsons staff writers. A couple of them were from New England, and said that certain elements of the town were copied from their home state, and that they included various (visual and other) references to Springfield, MA in the show.

It's clearly in North Takoma.

This show is still on? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39648535)

Seriously?

Why Aliens? Use Current Events (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39648965)

What's that I read about a nuclear melt-down in Japan? Something about a 12-mile exclusion zone? Aren't the original ninjas from Japan?

Seems like you could build a kick ass back story that is true to the original based on current events, why bother with this aliens crap?

Springfield is 115 miles from Portland (2)

NicknamesAreStupid (1040118) | more than 2 years ago | (#39649105)

Mat, ". . . I imagined that it was the town next to Portland, my hometown."

He does have quite the imagination.

So it's not Pickering? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39649185)

"simpsons" and mother tie to Steve Job's sister? (1)

peter303 (12292) | more than 2 years ago | (#39649341)

Steve sister is probably the inspiration [wikipedia.org] for the Homer's mother "Mona Simpson". And her ex-husband possible the the surname for the family itself.
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